Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
I'm playing 1 Magician of Faith over the Serial Spell. It's effectively the same card but less of a brick. You just go Card D into Shallow+Taiyou for Faith.
Also, "I think the people wanted to see a real match" is an absolutely fucking absurd thing to say when you're playing empty jar. There's nothing wrong with it if you're trying to win an event but you've been claiming to be better than him and pussied out when it came to actually proving it.
I never claimed to be better than him. He simply accepted a years-long open challenge. I told him that I would be on a combo deck, and yes Empty Jar is a legitimate deck in the format.
Yeah. Iirc, you have to have at least one card in the grave tho, since there needs to a gamestate that allows for Feather to even activate. Some correct me if I'm wrong tho 😅
Thats why I only play duelbook woth friends. A lot of people are dishonest or overly sweaty. Its clear you wouldn't put cyber on top of your deck. Duelbook has a lot of options close together. Misclicks happen
But ya still played it wrong even after the mistake But honestly I feel it was a def a mistake , but I see where he coming from being upset , get excited and you play like one step ahead , and get caught up , common in players who are new to combo
I've been playing Empty Jar in Goat Format since 2012 and am the most well-known combo player in the format. I've literally played over a thousand matches with the deck. I'm not "new to combo" lol.
damn this community is fucked. when i played in flc17 and me and my opponent both had TERs on board and he summons tsuku and books his own TER the judge rules it's "obviously" a missclick and I got a warning for fucking sharking. really dont like the direction this format and community are going. i wish this guy wasn't so desperate so we could see g3 and see who actually would've won.
Honestly if DB wasn't such a shitty program we wouldnt have any of these issues. It's almost impossible to play 5 matches without anyone misclicking. And yeah the fact that DB won't let you even target half of the time is also nonsense.
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm running OTK, then you're not a fan. Combo decks have been "my thing" for the last 10 years. Never going to apologize for that.
Misclicks are so common on dueling book and it was caught on literally the next card played so I think you should’ve been allowed to put the card destruction on top and cyber jar back in GY. Regardless of whether or not money is on the line, it was obviously a misclick and should’ve been better sportsmanship.
facebook.com/groups/GoatFormatDuelists/permalink/766948577348049/ Here's my technical analysis of the match for those who want to learn more about playing Jar vs Chaos or Chaos vs Jar.
Bro you should’ve mirrored. Empty jar is a joke and proves shit. The debate was about his suboptimal choices vs yours so the mirror would determine who’s better not some lame as solitaire. If you won it wouldn’t mean shit here
As a poker player you should know better than do those kind of things. The opponent is a shark so your probability of success are 55% AT MOST because of deckbuilding, or difference in skill. Everybody know the skill difference between top players isn't that large. You would never gamble all this money on a poker hand (with those odds). Secondly, 3 games and that's it. In what world is this enough to make sure skill override variance. You can have a good probabilities of succes against another player in a game of skill including some luck but only through multiple matches. Like everybody say even an amateur can win the first few hand against a pro in poker. I could clearly see there was nothing rational in this money match when I saw the raise for 750$ after the first loss. Makes no sense. But then again if you have the money you can throw it away. As long as no kids are starving because of this this is just stupid, not irresponsible.
That was the most obvious misclick, $0, $500, or $1,000,000, shows a lot of his character not letting that be taken back. Would never happen in an irl game. I used to hate on otk/ftk decks, until I came to terms with the fact that Yugioh is a game that allows for ‘degeneracy’ and you either accept the fact, cry about it, or quit. Awaiting game 3 of this match.
@@em2eff Didn't know that. Of course an unbiased judge would know that it makes no sense to discard your own empty jar to put the same empty jar back on top. But... yeah technically if this is the correct rulling he could say "missclick are part of the game" or something like that. Yugioh was never fair, hence why I'm against gambling on it.
ACP your empty jar deck was definitely superior to Mr Carl Waites Desert Sunlight deck. He doesn't know rulings and had to shark you to win. Overrated Goat player
sadly if your going by tournament rules you already made a play after the mistake was made. it's obv you wouldn't do that but you got to understand that he has a good point. I wonder that other guy doesn't know the deck. If he did then he would know you wouldnt do that. sounds to me hes jsut out to get you and Id just forfeit and block him. It's up to you though as it may look ill on your reputation.
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
TBH if i put 500 bucks up on a game like this i would be card-sharking the f*** out of my opponent too...
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
stop deleting my comments acp
Why not play a Best of 7 or something for this kind of exhibition match with stakes?
I missed it, Carl won right ?
:lmfao:
Curious why you chose to go with Empty Jar for this. Shouldn't it be better to play a mirror if you believe his deck has suboptimal choices?
Empty Jar vs Thunder Dragon is arguably the most lopsided matchup in the game. I'd rather be 80% to win than only 60%.
@@GoatDuels I see, thanks for replying! Love the content
Why weren't you playing Serial Spell?
I'm not a Empty Jar expert by any means, but it seems a pretty strange card to cut.
I'm playing 1 Magician of Faith over the Serial Spell. It's effectively the same card but less of a brick. You just go Card D into Shallow+Taiyou for Faith.
Props to you for uploading
13:03 attack for 45? He can just summon Thunder Dragon and attack for game.
miscalculated
Could you have even put Cyber Jar on top of the deck? It's what you discarded for Feather... does it work like that?
how many hairs you have
Will you be including the -$500 in your next FIRE blog post?
Yes, why wouldn't I? Glad you're reading my blog.
Also, "I think the people wanted to see a real match" is an absolutely fucking absurd thing to say when you're playing empty jar.
There's nothing wrong with it if you're trying to win an event but you've been claiming to be better than him and pussied out when it came to actually proving it.
I never claimed to be better than him. He simply accepted a years-long open challenge. I told him that I would be on a combo deck, and yes Empty Jar is a legitimate deck in the format.
Which combo deck would you say is the most powerful one in goat format?
We really need goat format on YGOPRO or DEVPRO. Arguing all the time takes the fun out of it...
I'm convinced that arguing IS the game for people on duelbook
@03:20 what a misplay.... Could have used trunade to return his opponents 2 set cards, then taiyou, he lost a +2 advantage for nothing...
Win or lose, love these videos, love watching your games and hearing your takes. Money matches do bring out the salt, however. Great stuff.
Can u even target your discard with feather? That was obv a misclick imo too
"Discard 1 card, then target 1 card in your GY;"
Yes
Yeah.
Iirc, you have to have at least one card in the grave tho, since there needs to a gamestate that allows for Feather to even activate.
Some correct me if I'm wrong tho 😅
Yeah, thats correct guys. You can Feather discard something target itself as long as there was something in your grave to begin with.
Thats why I only play duelbook woth friends. A lot of people are dishonest or overly sweaty. Its clear you wouldn't put cyber on top of your deck. Duelbook has a lot of options close together. Misclicks happen
Good game Allen! You win some you lose some, but respect for stepping up to the plate and taking the lose in stride :D
I money match with spell economics, 👌
Howcome no one uses EDOPro? I know it doesn't have ranked, but for a one-off high stakes match like this, it might solve a lot of issues.
missclicks can be fixed on duelling book, on edo pro you just have to deal with it...
Waite Waite Waite Waite Waite Waite !
That's why I hate money matches
But ya still played it wrong even after the mistake
But honestly I feel it was a def a mistake , but I see where he coming from being upset , get excited and you play like one step ahead , and get caught up , common in players who are new to combo
I've been playing Empty Jar in Goat Format since 2012 and am the most well-known combo player in the format. I've literally played over a thousand matches with the deck. I'm not "new to combo" lol.
@@GoatDuels you dont even believe this.
@@GoatDuels I just assumed cuz the plays and deck choices it was your first time , oof
@@nycholasysrael9061 :Yellow: moment
@@MorphingMatt lmao what plays made you think that
Is gambling on Yugioh matches legal?
You cannot gamble in a Konami sanctioned event. Everywhere else is fine.
@@CallMeNevermore doesn’t gambling on something like this violate state and federal law?
Their parents signed permission slips LoL
damn this community is fucked. when i played in flc17 and me and my opponent both had TERs on board and he summons tsuku and books his own TER the judge rules it's "obviously" a missclick and I got a warning for fucking sharking.
really dont like the direction this format and community are going.
i wish this guy wasn't so desperate so we could see g3 and see who actually would've won.
Honestly if DB wasn't such a shitty program we wouldnt have any of these issues. It's almost impossible to play 5 matches without anyone misclicking. And yeah the fact that DB won't let you even target half of the time is also nonsense.
Stopped watching before the 4 min mark 😥
I was rooting for u acp then u decided to play empty jar so good thing u lost
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm running OTK, then you're not a fan. Combo decks have been "my thing" for the last 10 years. Never going to apologize for that.
@@GoatDuels Where is the "gadget" ACP ? Where is the "angel chaos" ACP ? We need him back !
@@GoatDuels solitaire*
@@GoatDuels you should apologize to MMF for playing his deck like absolute dog shit.
Taking back a mis click
Is not the same as taking back a move
The guy was scared 😅 !!!!!
Misclicks are so common on dueling book and it was caught on literally the next card played so I think you should’ve been allowed to put the card destruction on top and cyber jar back in GY.
Regardless of whether or not money is on the line, it was obviously a misclick and should’ve been better sportsmanship.
facebook.com/groups/GoatFormatDuelists/permalink/766948577348049/
Here's my technical analysis of the match for those who want to learn more about playing Jar vs Chaos or Chaos vs Jar.
Carl with the POETIC JUSTICE!!! 💯/💯
Bro you should’ve mirrored. Empty jar is a joke and proves shit. The debate was about his suboptimal choices vs yours so the mirror would determine who’s better not some lame as solitaire. If you won it wouldn’t mean shit here
I never let my opponents take back their missclick BUT I don't play 500 dollar money match. Gambling is for junkies.
As a poker player you should know better than do those kind of things. The opponent is a shark so your probability of success are 55% AT MOST because of deckbuilding, or difference in skill. Everybody know the skill difference between top players isn't that large. You would never gamble all this money on a poker hand (with those odds). Secondly, 3 games and that's it. In what world is this enough to make sure skill override variance. You can have a good probabilities of succes against another player in a game of skill including some luck but only through multiple matches. Like everybody say even an amateur can win the first few hand against a pro in poker.
I could clearly see there was nothing rational in this money match when I saw the raise for 750$ after the first loss. Makes no sense.
But then again if you have the money you can throw it away. As long as no kids are starving because of this this is just stupid, not irresponsible.
A player that don't know how to solve a chain with jar + tayou + bom can't accept a misclick lol. Seems legit Carl #noob
Right lol
Lol while it may have been a misclick, calling Carl, one of the best players in the world,a noob, is the dumbest fucking thing on TH-cam.
That was the most obvious misclick, $0, $500, or $1,000,000, shows a lot of his character not letting that be taken back. Would never happen in an irl game. I used to hate on otk/ftk decks, until I came to terms with the fact that Yugioh is a game that allows for ‘degeneracy’ and you either accept the fact, cry about it, or quit.
Awaiting game 3 of this match.
No judge on this planet would ever let him take back that play in real life, please gtfo.
@@nycholasysrael9061 It's not even a legal target.
@@finnsteur5639 i have no dog in this fight but cyber jar is absolutely a legal target for feather there
@@finnsteur5639 you have no clue what you are talking about lol!
@@em2eff Didn't know that. Of course an unbiased judge would know that it makes no sense to discard your own empty jar to put the same empty jar back on top. But... yeah technically if this is the correct rulling he could say "missclick are part of the game" or something like that. Yugioh was never fair, hence why I'm against gambling on it.
chaos players are honestly worse than FTK players
Low key facts
Ah yes morality lessons on deck choice from *checks user* tekashi69
Disagree. They are both equally unlikeable.
ACP your empty jar deck was definitely superior to Mr Carl Waites Desert Sunlight deck. He doesn't know rulings and had to shark you to win. Overrated Goat player
The other player seems quite the coward.
sadly if your going by tournament rules you already made a play after the mistake was made. it's obv you wouldn't do that but you got to understand that he has a good point. I wonder that other guy doesn't know the deck. If he did then he would know you wouldnt do that. sounds to me hes jsut out to get you and Id just forfeit and block him. It's up to you though as it may look ill on your reputation.
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that
Real talk, if you're not an ACP fan when I'm losing to waite, then you're not a fan. Losing to waite has been "my thing" now for the last 10 years now. Never going to apologize for that