P: “And don’t just say the guys above him are better.” D Mills: “I just feel like.. *advertisement* .. the guys above him are better.” Lmao that wait during the ad just knowing he was gon say that was hilarious
Excuses why they ranked players too low: Derek: “I just feel like the players above him are better” Kenny: “DEFENSE” Mike: “He can’t be a number one option”
Good to see John Collins get some love. He really isn't as bad defensively as it seems. He has played out of position most of his career. Capella's presence next year should help Collins as he will be able to play a more traditional PF where he belongs
Bro. I see your falcons profile pic so you prolly from Atlanta like me. But damn dude. You watch a hawks game? Collins is so ass at defense. Capella is there to save his ass
@@grizzly6925 depends on if you add the "potential" factor in. if you need either bam or zion for a game with money on the line tomorrow, you could probably go bam and be fine. if you are a gm looking ahead at the next 10-15 years of your franchise, you take zion 100 times out of 100 over bam
@@a7xguitar666 yh i guess if u r looking at potential but that's a still tough Zion has the most potential but he is is also the most likely to get injured and players rarely ever live up to potential but when they do it seems like a great decision it's a hard to choice if u look at it like bam being low risk and ok reward and Zion being high risk and high reward me personally I would go for the safer option but I understand why someone would take zion since if he lives up to potential and improves his game he could be one of the best
Here's my list. I based it off of if I were a GM starting a team from scratch, who would I want. 1 Luka 2 Zion 3 Jayson Tatum 4 KAT 5 Ben Simmons 6 Trae Young 7 Bam 8 Ja Morant 9 Devin Booker 10 Jaylen Brown 11 Brandon Ingram 12 Donovan Mitchell 13 Porzingis 14 Shai 15 Domantas Sabonis 16 John Isaac 17 Jaren Jackson Jr 18 D'Angelo Russel 19 Zach Lavine 20 Lonzo Ball 21 De'Aaron Fox 22 Jamal Murray 23 DeAndre Ayton 24 Myles Turner 25 John Collins I think across the board y'all undervalued Bam, I see him as considerably better than a lot of scoring guards, I think his defensive value is much more difficult to replace than say the scoring of Devin Booker or Brandon Ingram. I also really valued potential. Guys such as Zach Lavine or Domontas Sabonis who I don't really see as getting much better than they already are, are considerably lower on my list than guys with higher potential like Ja and Bam. Jaren Jackson and John Isaac are much higher than any of you had them and that is because they both have DPOY potential in my eyes. Jaren has been much worse on defense this year which is worrisome but I still see him potentially getting there. John Isaac is already a first-team all defense level player with the foundation to be a serviceable floor spacer on offense. EDIT: swapped BI and DMitch. For some reason I thought DMitch was a more efficient scorer.
D-Mills has Zion at 12 and the crew explodes, and Mike had him at 10 and everyone was just ok with it. Darrick definitely had some sus placements but his list wasn't awful tbh
1. Luka Doncic ( Future MVP and face of the NBA) 2. Ben Simmons ( Future DPOY and will lead in assists and get 20) 3. Jayson Tatum (So clutch and can do everything you want in a superstar) 4. Zion Williamson (Can be the best player truly elite) 5. Karl-Anthony Towns (Great shooter for a big men and can dominate) 6. Trae Young (Needs to be better on D but he can be a star) 7. Ja Morant (Future all NBA player elite athleticism) 8. Brandon Ingram (Again elite scorer but his length can be dangerous) 9. Donavon Mitchell (Elite scorer with athleticism and can playmake) 10. Devin Booker ( Elite scorer on elite efficiency is playing better D) 11. Kristaps Porzingis (Love his shooting and he’s playing better D) 12. De’Aaron Fox (great defender and can get to the rim at will) 13. D’Angelo Russell (Elite shooter a good playmaker) 14. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Love his scoring and playmaking) 15. Bam Adebayo (The most versatile big I’ve seen great playmaking) 16. Jaylen Brown (Future All-Star and love his defense) 17. Domantas Sabonis (Feels bad to put low but can rebound everything) 18. Zach Lavine (Elite scorer but no defense) 19. Deandre Ayton (Can be 20 & 10 guy has a lot of post moves) 20. Jamal Murray (Needs to avg 20 to move up but good shooter) 21. Lonzo Ball (Shot improving defense and playmaking are great) 22. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Can avg 20 and will block shots) 23. John Collins (Will avg 20 defense limited) 24. Jonathan Isaac (Can be future DPOY) 25. Michael Porter Jr. (Love the potential)
Looking at your reasoning for KATs placement there's no reason he should be higher than kp as kp represents a much more significant defensive potential while being just as good offensively going off their healthy games for both of them.
@@markhenderson1177.... Looks over at kp stats when healthy yeah kat is slightly better offensively and much worse defensively. Yeah kat is a better 3 point shooter at least for now.
@@Isaiah_McIntosh slightly better? KAT is a better post scorer, mid range scorer, 3 point shooter, ballhandler, playmaker, while KP is only better at rim protecting only because hes taller
Rate My List 1) Luka 2) JayTay 3) Ice Trae 4) Dbook 5) Ben Simmons 6) Kat 7) Ingram 8) Michell 9) Zion 10)Bam 11) Sabonis 12) Ja 13) John Collins 14) Lavine 15) Dlo 15) JB 16) SGA 17) JJJ 18) Fox 19) KP 20) Jamal 21) Ayton 22) Lonzo 23) Isaac 24) RJ 25) Arron Gordon Honorable Mentions: Jarrett Allen, Malik Beasley, Lauri Markanen, Christian Wood
25 under 25 1. Luka 2. Tatum 3. Simmons 4. Young 5. Booker 6. KAT 7. Kristaps 8. Ingram 9. Mitchell 10. Morant 11. Williamson 12. Russell 13. Fox 14. Sabonis 15. Adebayo 16. Shai 17. brown 18. Lonzo Ball 19. Zach Lavine 20. Jamal Murray 21. Jaren Jackson JR 22. Jonathan Isaac 23. Michael Porter JR 24. RJ Barrett 25. John Collins The prefect list
Just gave y'all a watch cause you were on my recommended after watching highlights of an NBA game. Watched two vids back to back. Great podcast, keep creating and posting the quality content!
The only issue I have is the disrespect to Porzingis. How’s he have a great offensive game and a great defensive game. MVP Potential. And not even top 10 or even top 15. 😑
RTLFAITH porsingis doesnt play great defense, blocking shots isnt good defense. hes an above average paint protector but doesnt have the lateral quickness to be an elite defender outside of 10 feet.
1- Luka Doncic 2- Ben Simmons 3- Jayson Tatum 4- Trae Young 5- Karl Anthony Towns 6- Zion Williamson 7- Brandon Ingram 8- KP 9- Devin Booker 10- Jaylen Brown 11- Shai Gilgeous Alexander 12- Bam Adebayo 13- Ja Morant 14- Donovan Mitchell 15- Zach Lavine 16- Domantas Sabonis 17- D’Angelo Russell 18- De’aaron Fox 19- Jamal Murray 20- John Collins 21- Jonathan Isaac 22- Lonzo Ball 23- Jaren Jackson Jr 24- DeAndre Ayton 25- Michael Porter Jr
My List: 1. Luka 2. Tatum 3. KAT 4. Trae 5. Simmons 6. Zion 7. Booker 8. Mitchell 9. Ingram 10. Ja 11. Shai 12. Bam 13. Jaylen Brown 14. Sabonis 15. Porzingis 16. Russell 17. Fox 18. Lavine 19. Murray 20. Collins 21. Jackson Jr. 22. Ayton 23. Ball 24. Isaac 25. MPJ
1. Doncic 2. Tatum 3. KAT 4. Simmons 5. Young 6. Booker 7. Zion 8. Mitchell 9. Ingram 10. Morant 11. Adebayo 12. Brown 13. Porzingis 14. Sabonis 15. Russell 16. Shai 17. Lavine 18. Fox 19. Jackson Jr 20. Ayton 21. Murray 22. Collins 23. Ball 24. Issac 25. Gordon Thoughts? DMills list was crazy. Lavine at 8 lmao
1. Luka 2. Jt 3. Trae 4. Ben 5. Kat 6. Mitchell 7. Booker 8. Zion 9. Bi 10. Ja 11. Porzingis 12. Bam 13. Isaac 14. Jb 15. Dlo 16. Fox 17. Lonzo 18. Shai 19. Sabonis 20. John collins
I feel like you guys have been doing this too long to let Derrick make bad lists every time. You should all agree on a criteria for what the list is based on before making it
Donovan Mitchell is turning into such an underrated player... dude put up over 20 points in a quarter his rookie season against Paul George in a close out game in the playoffs (doesn’t have a playoff moment) and is an absolute beast when it matters most these guys don’t know anything about winning unlike Donovan people don’t actually watch basketball nowadays it’s just highlights and stats smh
1-5: Luka, Tatum, KAT, Zion, Ben simmons. 6-10: Trae, Booker, Ingram, Mitchell, JA 11-15: Jaylen Brown, SGA, DRussel, Fox, Porzingis. 16-20: Bam, Ayton, Jaren Jackon Jr, Lavine, Murray. 21-25: Sabonis, Isaac, Ball, Collins, MPJr (might be missing someone i cant rmmbr for some reason, this is off the top of my head)
I don’t agree with Kenny putting Jon Issac over John Collins, his point was how he values someone who can do it on both sides of the ball but it’s not like Issac is anything great on offense, 12 PPG and below average shooting splits
Erik Tallos exactly. Idk why they don’t summarise everyone’s top 10 at the end or put it in a link below. Like. Not everyone finna watch the whole show man
Wassup, just wanted to let yall know, that i am a huge fan. I am from Slovakia (small ass country in Europe 😂) and I have been watchin TTW for like a year and a half now. Its kinda difficult to watch nba games cause they are so late at night, but i try to. So keep up the dope work!
Top 25 under 25 1. Luka Doncic 2. Karl-Anthony Towns 3. Ben Simmons 4. Ja Morant 5. Jayson Tatum 6. Zion Williamson 7. Brandon Ingram 8. Trae Young 9. Devin Booker 10. Donovan Mitchell 11. D’angelo Russell 12. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 13. Jaylen Brown 14. Zach Lavine 15. Jaren Jackson Jr 16. Bam Adebayo 17. De’Aaron Fox 18. Domantas Sabonis 19. Kristaps Porzingis 20. Lonzo Ball 21. Jamal Murray 22. Jon Collins 23. Collin Sexton 24. Deandre Ayton 25. Jonathan Isaac
The fact that Aaron Gordon is only contributing 14.5/7.6/3.6 on 43/30/67 shooting, is damn near 25 already, and still made everyone's list was kinda crazy. Kelly Oubre Jr. is one name, for example, that I'd put over him that didn't make anybody's list. He's two months younger, is posting far better shooting splits, scores more, rebounds similarly and plays a comparable level of defense. He's also been a huge contributor to the Suns level of energy as a team, a real spark plug since he was brought in last December.
Nobody is arguing than Bam RIGHT NOW is better than Zion, but the point of this list was who would you pick to build around. And Zion should be at the very least, top 10.
Here's my list off the top of my head off the straight up eye test, feel free to come at me: Luka Tatum Simmons Zo Jaylen Brown Mitchell Trae KP Sabo Zion Bam KAT Booker Ja Shai BI D-lo Lavine De'Aaron Murray Lauri JJ Jr. Nunn Collins Herro
Just my quick take on that empty stat bit at 1:06:09 . The empty stats bad team argument is definitely overused in dismissing players but sometimes it is valid. Like when MCW won Rookie of the Year, his points rebounds and assists were impressive but his team wasn't competitive at all. The 76ers point differential for that season was like -10.5 and MCW was getting a lot of his stats in garbage time but he was still seen as a promising player. I guess what I'm trying to say is that when a player's team struggles to even keep games close, their stats shouldn't be taken at face value.
zach lavine is one of the elite scorers in the league rn. can't name 10 people that are purer offensively than this man. put him on a contender and a coach that he doesnt detest and i promise you he will improve effort (which is basically what defense is heavily predicated on) on the defensive end. dmills placing zach this high did not warrant such a reaction from the rest of the guys lol
A.J Loco Zion might of played only 19 games but dominated as soon as he came back I guarantee you if any rookie in any draft class in the last 2 years or even 3 they would have had trouble to dominate off the tempo if they came back from missing off the season that’s just me
D Mills: "Zach Lavine......"
"Siri, pick a number between 1 and 25"
Ed Pedrys the number is.... 12, who is Garret Temple when 11 is Siakam and 13 is Kawhi 😂😂
P: “And don’t just say the guys above him are better.”
D Mills: “I just feel like.. *advertisement*
.. the guys above him are better.”
Lmao that wait during the ad just knowing he was gon say that was hilarious
Layne Bruh time stamp?
Dante 35:08 it happened as i read this comment😂😂
Dante also 42:24
Excuses why they ranked players too low:
Derek: “I just feel like the players above him are better”
Kenny: “DEFENSE”
Mike: “He can’t be a number one option”
Jason Simon yeah but they used it as excuses like when derek put shai at 19
Yeah. The shit does seem redundant.
What does P say
@@marcelthejay "he's not light skin"
LP6 Sports I mean Kenny’s opinions are very importantly based off two-way ability so his list will just in general look different.
P: “We should just make our own list instead of calling other ones trash.”
Continues to laugh at Derrick’s list throughout the entire video
Shit was mad trash though, and Derek knew that too.
Slim7777 I’m sayin 🤣🤣
Everyone: legit arguments
Derrick: I just think he's good
lmaooooo. I love him though. Sometimes he makes the best points straight outta left field, but sometimes he just goes bang lmaooo
in their comparison he gave reasoning, i forgot what the explanation was for but he just said "i don't know"
Good to see John Collins get some love. He really isn't as bad defensively as it seems. He has played out of position most of his career. Capella's presence next year should help Collins as he will be able to play a more traditional PF where he belongs
I’m a Celtic and rocket fan but man I love John Collins
Bro. I see your falcons profile pic so you prolly from Atlanta like me. But damn dude. You watch a hawks game? Collins is so ass at defense. Capella is there to save his ass
Collins a beast no hate allowed
I love when every time we do rankings Derrick always gives us laughs. Like “Danny Granger” now he has Ja, Sha, and ZION supper low!!!😂🤣
Legend forever Kobe Danny granger on that decade list had me so weak🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matt Ferrugia don’t forget Paul Millsap on the PF list
He doesn't know basketball it's that simple
Ty Lito whatever hardship you’re dealing with in life i hope it resolves💕
This is the funniest episode I’ve ever seen
DMills carrying the content. this is gold
Facts
derrick went off of 2k ratings lol
😂😂😂 did he fr???
List starts at 13:44
Thanks king
Josh Modiano GOAT
W
An extra long vid, I already know this gon be a good one
I knew when I clicked on the video that D-Mills list was trash.
Man, I love Derrick, but this is so true LMAO.
God how can it be so bad
Better than skip Bayless lol
We need to put DMills on some kind of watch list from all this bullying lmao
DANtheMANofSIPA friends can’t joke with each other ?
Ethan Crawford it’s a joke
*D-Mills and P roasting Mike for disrespecting Bam
Kenny: Lets move on...😂
TooMas Sauce 😂😂😂
😂😂Bro honestly i still understood what he was saying dont mean i agreed but i get where he was coming from tbh🤷🏾♂️
Jaylen Brown been in his baggg all season
Facts
He got that Kawhi potential he so slept on
KJ3 not kawhi, more like PG
Jezza Lyon true I jus said Kawhi because they’re bout the same size. Jayson Tatum remind me more of PG
Tatum and Brown gonna be a problem for a while bruh. My Celtics better keep them 2 together, real shit...
D Mills picking LaVine over Zion might be the craziest thing I've ever witnessed on the show
I don't like zion's game style but man that was crazy.
Joey Haverford Danny Granger 👀
Tomás Genta zions am athletic freak and he’s a bulldog on defense. How can you not like his play style. Go watch him ripping rebounds from giannis
I love how dramatic Pierre is 😂😂😂😂
Tbh he’s always coming for that boy Derrick
@@RamonIsHim its cause Derrick can beat him one on one 🤣
man, this is the only podcast i like, share, comment and love even before i watch a snippet
Knuckleheads..
his list wasn't great but IMO they were a bit harsh on D-Mills
The man had Zion at #12 for Christ sakes
@@ColeFrmNc zion doesn't deserve to be higher he doesn't have a well rounded a game and is bad on defense
@Drezzz KG right now bam is better
@@grizzly6925 depends on if you add the "potential" factor in. if you need either bam or zion for a game with money on the line tomorrow, you could probably go bam and be fine. if you are a gm looking ahead at the next 10-15 years of your franchise, you take zion 100 times out of 100 over bam
@@a7xguitar666 yh i guess if u r looking at potential but that's a still tough Zion has the most potential but he is is also the most likely to get injured and players rarely ever live up to potential but when they do it seems like a great decision it's a hard to choice if u look at it like bam being low risk and ok reward and Zion being high risk and high reward me personally I would go for the safer option but I understand why someone would take zion since if he lives up to potential and improves his game he could be one of the best
"Corona" Lmfaooo
@@brauwow 39:00
I just wanna give Derrick a hug
"Donovan Mitchell doesn't have playoff moments". Paul George says hi
Colin sexton deserves to be on this list. He’s averaging 20 3 and 3. Ik the cavs suck but cmon man
Fr and plays great defense and shoots a good percentage but people always gonna hate on him
Moe lester nobody hates on him he’s just not know
Here's my list. I based it off of if I were a GM starting a team from scratch, who would I want.
1 Luka
2 Zion
3 Jayson Tatum
4 KAT
5 Ben Simmons
6 Trae Young
7 Bam
8 Ja Morant
9 Devin Booker
10 Jaylen Brown
11 Brandon Ingram
12 Donovan Mitchell
13 Porzingis
14 Shai
15 Domantas Sabonis
16 John Isaac
17 Jaren Jackson Jr
18 D'Angelo Russel
19 Zach Lavine
20 Lonzo Ball
21 De'Aaron Fox
22 Jamal Murray
23 DeAndre Ayton
24 Myles Turner
25 John Collins
I think across the board y'all undervalued Bam, I see him as considerably better than a lot of scoring guards, I think his defensive value is much more difficult to replace than say the scoring of Devin Booker or Brandon Ingram. I also really valued potential. Guys such as Zach Lavine or Domontas Sabonis who I don't really see as getting much better than they already are, are considerably lower on my list than guys with higher potential like Ja and Bam. Jaren Jackson and John Isaac are much higher than any of you had them and that is because they both have DPOY potential in my eyes. Jaren has been much worse on defense this year which is worrisome but I still see him potentially getting there. John Isaac is already a first-team all defense level player with the foundation to be a serviceable floor spacer on offense.
EDIT: swapped BI and DMitch. For some reason I thought DMitch was a more efficient scorer.
baby eric ja is way to high
Seth Kanirie no he’s not And I’m finally happy to see bam getting some love he’s such a versatile player he’s basislly a point guard in a center
John Collins should be around 15. ask me why
Y’all be sleeping on d-lo
Your list is straight I just want to know the reasoning for JB being above BI not here to argue just want to hear from your perspective
D-Mills has Zion at 12 and the crew explodes, and Mike had him at 10 and everyone was just ok with it. Darrick definitely had some sus placements but his list wasn't awful tbh
Jack Sweeney
This D. Mills burner account 😭
Zay Boyd lmao
Exactly, the hate for D-Mills needs to stop! Just appreciate him for his goofy ass laugh and lists. They’re way too harsh on him.
#STOPD-MILLABUSE!
He had Shai at 19 man
Disrespecting Donovan bruh. Talk about not showing in the playoffs. Dude singlehandedly beat Westbrook and pg’s thunder his ROOKIE szn
Sniper 4life let me guess ur a jazz fan
Singlehandedly lmaoo, gobert exists and rubio and ingles were amazing
1. Luka Doncic ( Future MVP and face of the NBA)
2. Ben Simmons ( Future DPOY and will lead in assists and get 20)
3. Jayson Tatum (So clutch and can do everything you want in a superstar)
4. Zion Williamson (Can be the best player truly elite)
5. Karl-Anthony Towns (Great shooter for a big men and can dominate)
6. Trae Young (Needs to be better on D but he can be a star)
7. Ja Morant (Future all NBA player elite athleticism)
8. Brandon Ingram (Again elite scorer but his length can be dangerous)
9. Donavon Mitchell (Elite scorer with athleticism and can playmake)
10. Devin Booker ( Elite scorer on elite efficiency is playing better D)
11. Kristaps Porzingis (Love his shooting and he’s playing better D)
12. De’Aaron Fox (great defender and can get to the rim at will)
13. D’Angelo Russell (Elite shooter a good playmaker)
14. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Love his scoring and playmaking)
15. Bam Adebayo (The most versatile big I’ve seen great playmaking)
16. Jaylen Brown (Future All-Star and love his defense)
17. Domantas Sabonis (Feels bad to put low but can rebound everything)
18. Zach Lavine (Elite scorer but no defense)
19. Deandre Ayton (Can be 20 & 10 guy has a lot of post moves)
20. Jamal Murray (Needs to avg 20 to move up but good shooter)
21. Lonzo Ball (Shot improving defense and playmaking are great)
22. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Can avg 20 and will block shots)
23. John Collins (Will avg 20 defense limited)
24. Jonathan Isaac (Can be future DPOY)
25. Michael Porter Jr. (Love the potential)
Ben Simmons a little high for me. Unless he gets a jumpshot, but we been sayin that for 3-4 Years now.... Other than that this list is perfect
Looking at your reasoning for KATs placement there's no reason he should be higher than kp as kp represents a much more significant defensive potential while being just as good offensively going off their healthy games for both of them.
@@Isaiah_McIntosh KAT is way better offensively and is the best shooting big man in NBA history
@@markhenderson1177.... Looks over at kp stats when healthy yeah kat is slightly better offensively and much worse defensively. Yeah kat is a better 3 point shooter at least for now.
@@Isaiah_McIntosh slightly better? KAT is a better post scorer, mid range scorer, 3 point shooter, ballhandler, playmaker, while KP is only better at rim protecting only because hes taller
Imma need Mike to get some more stickers on that laptop if he gone have Bam at #18
Darrick......Zion at what ? Nah u don’t watch pelicans if you put him there and Zo at 25
I’m taking Kelly Oubre over MPJ rn as a player too
i love these video i look forward to them more than most anything during my week. keep up the good work love you guys
“Let’s start, #15” “I was like why are we starting in the middle?” 🤣🤣
Rate My List
1) Luka
2) JayTay
3) Ice Trae
4) Dbook
5) Ben Simmons
6) Kat
7) Ingram
8) Michell
9) Zion
10)Bam
11) Sabonis
12) Ja
13) John Collins
14) Lavine
15) Dlo
15) JB
16) SGA
17) JJJ
18) Fox
19) KP
20) Jamal
21) Ayton
22) Lonzo
23) Isaac
24) RJ
25) Arron Gordon
Honorable Mentions: Jarrett Allen, Malik Beasley, Lauri Markanen, Christian Wood
52:25 P said “I sounded like Stephen A”
Everyone: Bruh u just done figured that out ？😂😂
25 under 25
1. Luka
2. Tatum
3. Simmons
4. Young
5. Booker
6. KAT
7. Kristaps
8. Ingram
9. Mitchell
10. Morant
11. Williamson
12. Russell
13. Fox
14. Sabonis
15. Adebayo
16. Shai
17. brown
18. Lonzo Ball
19. Zach Lavine
20. Jamal Murray
21. Jaren Jackson JR
22. Jonathan Isaac
23. Michael Porter JR
24. RJ Barrett
25. John Collins
The prefect list
1. Luka
2. Simmons
3. Tatum
4. KAT
5. Booker
6. Mitchell
7. Zion
8. Trea
9. Ingram
10. Ja
11. Bam
12. Sabonis
13. Jaylen
14. LaVine
15. Kristaps
16. Shai
17. DeAaron
18. DeAngelo
19. Collins
20. Ayton
21. JJ Jr
22. Murray
23. Lonzo
24. Isaac
25. Nunn
Y’all disrespecting bam
Henry Wise fr
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Derrick straight up WILDIN with that Ja Morant pick
1) Luka
2) Tatum
3) Simmons
4) KAT
5) Trae
6) Donovan
7) Booker
8) Porzingis
9) Zion
10) BI
11) Ja
12) Sabonis
13) Bam
14) Dlo
15) Shai
16) JB
17) Ayton
18) Murray
19) Lavine
20) Collins
21) Fox
22) JJJ
23) Lonzo
24) Oubre
25) Lauri
1) Luka Doncic
2) Jason Tatum
3) Trae Young
4) Karl Anthony Towns
5) Ben Simmons
6) Donovan Mitchell
7) Zion Williamson
8) Devin Booker
9) Shai Gilgeous Alexander
10) Kristaps Porzingis
11) Ja Morant
12) Jaylen Brown
13) Bam Adebayo
14) Brandon Ingram
15) Domantas Sabonis
16) De'Aaron Fox
17) Jamaal Murray
18) D'Angelo Russel
19) Johnathon Issac
20) Michael Porter Jr.
21) Lonzo Ball
22) Andre Ayton
23) Zach Lavine
24) John Collins
25) Collin Sexton
(Just my opinion)
Just gave y'all a watch cause you were on my recommended after watching highlights of an NBA game. Watched two vids back to back. Great podcast, keep creating and posting the quality content!
i ain’t that mad at dmills for zion at 12... the small sample size we have seen doesn’t mean he could keep with that level of play for an entire 82
Gage Campbell We have to see if Zion can even play 82 games first. 12 is definitely understandable
I feel like they were treating Derek like a kid who got in trouble 😂😂😂
Yo u already know Dmills is gonna be grindin in the lab to create the best list ever
The only issue I have is the disrespect to Porzingis. How’s he have a great offensive game and a great defensive game. MVP Potential. And not even top 10 or even top 15. 😑
RTLFAITH porzings never gets his respect
Mr. Clutch I’m saying he’s definitely better than a lot of the people they had ahead of him
RTLFAITH porsingis doesnt play great defense, blocking shots isnt good defense. hes an above average paint protector but doesnt have the lateral quickness to be an elite defender outside of 10 feet.
Dylan Huntly nor does Sabonis, but he can’t get 5 blocks a game. This point is bad.
RTLFAITH you said he has great defense and then responding to this other dude's comment you admit he isn't good on defense 😆
1- Luka Doncic
2- Ben Simmons
3- Jayson Tatum
4- Trae Young
5- Karl Anthony Towns
6- Zion Williamson
7- Brandon Ingram
8- KP
9- Devin Booker
10- Jaylen Brown
11- Shai Gilgeous Alexander
12- Bam Adebayo
13- Ja Morant
14- Donovan Mitchell
15- Zach Lavine
16- Domantas Sabonis
17- D’Angelo Russell
18- De’aaron Fox
19- Jamal Murray
20- John Collins
21- Jonathan Isaac
22- Lonzo Ball
23- Jaren Jackson Jr
24- DeAndre Ayton
25- Michael Porter Jr
andrew wiggins should be 18 hes averaging 23 a game with great defence and brandon ingram isn't better than devin booker
1. Luka
2. Tatum
3. Zion
4. Booker
5. Simmons
6. KP
7. Kat
8. Mitchell
9. Morant
10. Ingram
My List:
1. Luka
2. Tatum
3. KAT
4. Trae
5. Simmons
6. Zion
7. Booker
8. Mitchell
9. Ingram
10. Ja
11. Shai
12. Bam
13. Jaylen Brown
14. Sabonis
15. Porzingis
16. Russell
17. Fox
18. Lavine
19. Murray
20. Collins
21. Jackson Jr.
22. Ayton
23. Ball
24. Isaac
25. MPJ
1. Luka. 2. Simmons. 3. Kat. 4. Tatum. 5. Booker. 6. Mitchell. 7. Zion. 8. Ja. 9. Trae. 10. Ingram. 11. Russell. 12. Brown. 13. Bam. 14. Porzingis. 15. Shai. 16. Fox. 17. Lavine. 18. Sabonis. 19. Isaac. 20. Murray. 21. JJJ. 22. Collins. 23 Ayton. 24. Lonzo. 25. MPJ
No Brandon Clarke on this list is disrespectful
You put Towns at 7 for defense but then you put the worst NBA defender in Trae Young at 5? cap
Young is a better player than towns and has more potential
yeah but towns is a big who can't defend which is a bigger issue
1. Doncic
2. Tatum
3. KAT
4. Simmons
5. Young
6. Booker
7. Zion
8. Mitchell
9. Ingram
10. Morant
11. Adebayo
12. Brown
13. Porzingis
14. Sabonis
15. Russell
16. Shai
17. Lavine
18. Fox
19. Jackson Jr
20. Ayton
21. Murray
22. Collins
23. Ball
24. Issac
25. Gordon
Thoughts? DMills list was crazy. Lavine at 8 lmao
1. Luka
2. Jt
3. Trae
4. Ben
5. Kat
6. Mitchell
7. Booker
8. Zion
9. Bi
10. Ja
11. Porzingis
12. Bam
13. Isaac
14. Jb
15. Dlo
16. Fox
17. Lonzo
18. Shai
19. Sabonis
20. John collins
I feel like you guys have been doing this too long to let Derrick make bad lists every time. You should all agree on a criteria for what the list is based on before making it
thier just having fun. its not meant to be serious
1. Luka
2. Jt
3. Kat
4. Young
5. Book
6. Simmons
7. Zion
8. Ingram
9. Ja
10. Mitchell
11. Porzingis
12. LaVine
13. Brown
14. Bam
15. Dlo
Donovan Mitchell is turning into such an underrated player... dude put up over 20 points in a quarter his rookie season against Paul George in a close out game in the playoffs (doesn’t have a playoff moment) and is an absolute beast when it matters most these guys don’t know anything about winning unlike Donovan people don’t actually watch basketball nowadays it’s just highlights and stats smh
1-5: Luka, Tatum, KAT, Zion, Ben simmons. 6-10: Trae, Booker, Ingram, Mitchell, JA 11-15: Jaylen Brown, SGA, DRussel, Fox, Porzingis. 16-20: Bam, Ayton, Jaren Jackon Jr, Lavine, Murray. 21-25: Sabonis, Isaac, Ball, Collins, MPJr (might be missing someone i cant rmmbr for some reason, this is off the top of my head)
David Fitzdale might be a sleeper pick for the Brooklyn head coach.
I don’t agree with Kenny putting Jon Issac over John Collins, his point was how he values someone who can do it on both sides of the ball but it’s not like Issac is anything great on offense, 12 PPG and below average shooting splits
Huntr C defense is really nice though
Huntr C Isaac’s defense is better than Collins offense and Isaac’s offense is better than Collins defense.
Bud just watch a Magic game from earlier this year, isaac controlls the game with his defense
ProdigyYeezy
Hard agree
Not a single list at the top of the comments smh
Erik Tallos exactly. Idk why they don’t summarise everyone’s top 10 at the end or put it in a link below. Like. Not everyone finna watch the whole show man
47:27 when they all turned their heads and looked at d-mills you knew he was about to disappoint them😂
43:54 Kenny be like ya bup uop
1:07:53 the basics make basketball fun
Wassup, just wanted to let yall know, that i am a huge fan. I am from Slovakia (small ass country in Europe 😂) and I have been watchin TTW for like a year and a half now. Its kinda difficult to watch nba games cause they are so late at night, but i try to. So keep up the dope work!
Any good defender... Kenny - “that’s my guy”
Kenny: Isaac can guard 1-5...
P: BEN SIMMONS
Mans always gotta plug his bf in the convo.
Mostly based on potential
1. Luka Doncic
2. Zion Williamson
3. Ja Morant
4. Jayson Tatum
5. Ben Simmons
6. Karl-Anthony Towns
7. Trae Young
8. Donovan Mitchell
9. Devin Booker
10. Kristaps Porzingis
11. Brandon Ingram
12. Bam Adebayo
13. Domantas Sabonis
14. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
15. Jaylen Brown
16. De’Aaron Fox
17. D’Angelo Russell
18. Lonzo Ball
19. Zach LaVine
20. Jamal Murray
21. OG Anunoby
22. Deandre Ayton
23. RJ Barrett
24. Jonathan Isaac
25. John Collins
an hour and 20 minute long episode?! yes plz
My list
1 : Isaac Bonga
2 : Mo Wagner
3 : Isaiah Hartenstein
4 : Luca Doncic
Naxulius seems correct
1. Luka Doncic
2. Jayson Tatum
3. Ben Simmons
4. Karl-Anthony Towns
5. Zion Williamson
Ole Petter Husmo Ben Simmons is better than Tatum
ynbfrost 23 Nope. Jayson Tatum is taking a team to the 3rd while averaging 23 points. Ben Simmons, 6th seed, 16 points.
Ole Petter Huskies you right but Ben Simmons got mor potential and better defense
ynbfrost 23 Ben Simmons does not have better potential than Jayson Tatum!!
1. Derrick Walton jr 2. Duncan Robinson 3. Jaxon hayes 4. Zion 5. Taco Fall 6. gelo ball
Top 25 under 25
1. Luka Doncic
2. Karl-Anthony Towns
3. Ben Simmons
4. Ja Morant
5. Jayson Tatum
6. Zion Williamson
7. Brandon Ingram
8. Trae Young
9. Devin Booker
10. Donovan Mitchell
11. D’angelo Russell
12. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
13. Jaylen Brown
14. Zach Lavine
15. Jaren Jackson Jr
16. Bam Adebayo
17. De’Aaron Fox
18. Domantas Sabonis
19. Kristaps Porzingis
20. Lonzo Ball
21. Jamal Murray
22. Jon Collins
23. Collin Sexton
24. Deandre Ayton
25. Jonathan Isaac
We gotta use those KCP bullying tactics on D Mills 😂
Mike...Bam at 18?! Come on man!
He said DMitch had no playoff moments... he dominated the Thunder in 2018 and was the best player in the series
list starts at 13:45
Kenny: shoutout to Mike Conley for having his first good game of the year the other night
Me:😂
Me again: Realizing it was against my own team😑
1 Luka
2 Zion
3 KAT
4 Ben Simmons
5 Tatum
6 Trae
7 Dbook
8 Mitchell
9 KP
10 Ja
I agree just change Tatum and trea one spot up and move Simmons to six that's my list
how is Ingram not top 10 lmfaoooooo
1 luka 2 tatum 3 zion 4 trae 5 simmons 6 morant 7 towns 8 booker 9 mitchell 10 unicorn
Every episode I hope P hits"through the wire" in the right key😂
The fact that Aaron Gordon is only contributing 14.5/7.6/3.6 on 43/30/67 shooting, is damn near 25 already, and still made everyone's list was kinda crazy. Kelly Oubre Jr. is one name, for example, that I'd put over him that didn't make anybody's list. He's two months younger, is posting far better shooting splits, scores more, rebounds similarly and plays a comparable level of defense. He's also been a huge contributor to the Suns level of energy as a team, a real spark plug since he was brought in last December.
Bruh rn if im in a game 7 in the finals I’m taking Bam at this moment over Zion.
Nobody is arguing than Bam RIGHT NOW is better than Zion, but the point of this list was who would you pick to build around. And Zion should be at the very least, top 10.
I was hollering over this Metta World Peace jersey argument
My top 5 are
5.Ingram
4.simmons
3.tatum
2.trae
1.luka
Here's my list off the top of my head off the straight up eye test, feel free to come at me:
Luka
Tatum
Simmons
Zo
Jaylen Brown
Mitchell
Trae
KP
Sabo
Zion
Bam
KAT
Booker
Ja
Shai
BI
D-lo
Lavine
De'Aaron
Murray
Lauri
JJ Jr.
Nunn
Collins
Herro
Nah this facts I wouldn’t have so that Hugh but other than that it’s fine
I feel bad for Derrick he just seems like he rly doesn’t know what he did wrong
Y’all should list honorable mentions before you guys start listing your list
JT and Jaylen in the beginning of the season were on the same level not just stats but their averages were around the same and JB was more efficient
Lmfaoooo “ I’m about to take my jacket off” 😂😂😂
Big fan alert💪🏻💪🏻
Just my quick take on that empty stat bit at 1:06:09 . The empty stats bad team argument is definitely overused in dismissing players but sometimes it is valid. Like when MCW won Rookie of the Year, his points rebounds and assists were impressive but his team wasn't competitive at all. The 76ers point differential for that season was like -10.5 and MCW was getting a lot of his stats in garbage time but he was still seen as a promising player. I guess what I'm trying to say is that when a player's team struggles to even keep games close, their stats shouldn't be taken at face value.
Bro I used to watch y’all daily I missed yall
Dlo > ja > Fox
Tannermcboss Dlo one of the most disrespected nba players ever 🤷🏾♂️
D Lo is extremely underrated
Derrick if u fuck up on one more podcast I’m formally applying for that seat on TTW 😂
zach lavine is one of the elite scorers in the league rn. can't name 10 people that are purer offensively than this man. put him on a contender and a coach that he doesnt detest and i promise you he will improve effort (which is basically what defense is heavily predicated on) on the defensive end. dmills placing zach this high did not warrant such a reaction from the rest of the guys lol
1. Luka 2. Zion 3. Simmons 4. Jayson 5. Young
DBOOK should be their
My top 10 is
1) LUKA
2)Ben
3)Trae
4)Towns
5)Book
6)JT
7) DMITCH
8)Zion
9) Ingram
10) JA
Zion already?
A.J Loco um yes definitely
Logical Hoops I mean he only played 19 games I feel like Ja should be above him rn
A.J Loco Zion might of played only 19 games but dominated as soon as he came back I guarantee you if any rookie in any draft class in the last 2 years or even 3 they would have had trouble to dominate off the tempo if they came back from missing off the season that’s just me
Logical Hoops nah you right looking back at it Zion is a athletic freak really
Luka
Tatum
Zion
Trae
Ben
Kat
Booker
Ingram
Ja
Mitchell
Shai
Bam
Sabonis
JB
Porzingis
DLO
Fox
TheHelperChannel trae>zion idc what potential bs you’re going off of. man was a all star starter for christ’s sake.
I like to see Derrick improving but he’s still got places to go
Y'all need to do this again