Only complaint. U guys are spending so much time talking about the players ranked 50 and 49 and 48 and then speed through the top 20 and top 10 so quickly. That’s the debates we wanna hear why is Beal above butler, why is harden above steph, why is dame above pg. that’s why I watch this video. I don’t care who’s better between Markhanen and Gordon, cmon cuuuuuh. Love the podcast stylll.
Whats wrong with BBeal over Butler? He had a career year and was leading the team, while also playing average defense. Im a Jimmy fan, but for the past season he was not as good as BBeal nor was showing that he was better than Beal. And hell we're gonna see that now. With JB being the Heat's face and Beal being the Wizard's face.
@bennett Name one middle schooler who could average 16 ppg? I get its hyperbole but it isn't even accurate. Gobert is fine offensively. Comparing him to Vucevic or Towns, or Jokic or whatever makes him look not as good. He is average to above average on offense though.
Lowry gets hate for not putting up counting stats... You can always spot the casual who ain't watching games and just watching highlights when they saying Lowry not a top 7 PG.
@@PrimeSplxsh nigga, D. Mills was the only one to have Kyle Lowry on his list are you shitting me? The only reason why he didnt make it cuz the other 3 didnt have him
kostantinos adam top 10 seems a little too much but regardless, just a video of them discussing overrated and underrated players. They made a video like that before
I mean he a 6’1 guard that’s pretty up there in age..I mean take any PG in the league besides maybe 5 and the Raptors still winning the championship no cap 😂😂
@@d-foxthegoat1922 c'mon bruh, read the title...TOP 50 PLAYERS IN THE NBA, maybe if they changed it to "Top 50 Players entering the upcoming NBA season" then it would make sense, but no, they actually made it more complicated
Sherwin John don’t be playing the mike card where he was an all star last year. 😂 Would you say he is an all star in the west with curry,westbrook,klay etc
Lowry has been top 20 on sports illustrated only 2 or 3 years ago and is consistently top 30.... y'all are HEAVY DISSING... floor general of a championship team
Recap: 50 Ingram 49 Lauri Markkanen 48 John Collins 47 Tatum 46 Aaron Gordon 45 Bojan Bogdanovic 44 Zach Lavine 43 Andre Drummond 42 Clint Capela 41 Chris Paul 40 Al Horford 39 Jrue Holiday 38 Trae Young 37 Mike Conley 36 Danilo Gallinari 35 Luka Doncic 34 DeAron Fox 33 Julius Randle 32 Tobias Harris 31 Pascal Siakam 30 Cj Mccollum 29 Demar Derozan 28 D'Angelo Russell 27 Nikola Vucevic 26 Recap: 50 Ingram 49 Lauri Markkanen 48 John Collins 47 Tatum 46 Aaron Gordon 45 Bojan Bogdanovic 44 Zach Lavine 43 Andre Drummond 42 Clint Capela 41 Chris Paul 40 Al Horford 39 Jrue Holiday 38 Trae Young 37 Mike Conley 36 Danilo Gallinari 35 Luka Doncic 34 DeAron Fox 33 Julius Randle 32 Tobias Harris 31 Pascal Siakam 30 Cj Mccollum 29 Demar Derozan 28 D'Angelo Russell 27 Nikola Vucevic 26 25 Khris Middleton 24 Victor Oladipo 23 Draymond Green 22 Donovan Mitchell 21 Ben Simmons 20 Devin Booker 19 Lamarcus Aldridge 18 Kemba Walker 17 Rudy Gobert 16 Jimmy Butler 15 Bradley Beal 14 Blake Griffin 13 Kyrie Irving 12 Karl Anthony Towns 11 Russell Westbrook 10 Joel Embiid 9 Nikola Jokic 8 Paul George 7 Damian Lillard 6 Anthony Davis Tied 4 Stephen Curry Giannis 3 James Harden 2 Kawhi Leonard 1 Lebron James Maybe I missed Klay, but definitely you didn't mention KD guys, but in general pretty good list
2018-19: 1. Kawhi Leonard 2. Kevin Durant 3. Stephen Curry 4. Giannis Anttetokunmpo 5. James Harden 6. LeBron James 7. Anthony Davis 8. Paul George 9. Nikola Jokic 10. Joel Embiid 11. Damian Lillard 12. Kyrie Irving 13. Russell Westbrook 14. Karl-Anthony Towns 15. Blake Griffin 16. Jimmy Butler 17. Klay Thompson 18. Kemba Walker 19. Bradley Beal 20. Ben Simmons 21. Devin Booker 22. D'angelo Russell 23. LaMarcus Aldridge 24. Rudy Gobert 25. Donavan Mitchell 26. Luka Doncic 27. Nikola Vucevic 28. Mike Conley 29. Khris Middleton 30. Demar DeRozan 31. CJ McCollum 32. Jrue Holiday 33. Myles Turner 34. Draymond Green 35. Tobias Harris 36. Danilo Galinari 37. Trae Young 38. Pascal Siakam 39. Al Horford 40. De Aaron Fox 41. Julius Erving 42. Chris Paul 43. Buddy Heild 44. Zach LaVine 45. Bojan Bogdonovic 46. John Collins 47. Lauri Markenan 48. Jayson Tatum 49. Andre Drummond 50. Clint Capela No Kristaps, Oladipo or cousins cause injuries
V.I.B'Z 41. Julius Erving.. pretty good list tho, I would switch the order around in the top 7. Also bogdonovic is not top 50. Think Lou Williams should take his spot or Kyle Lowry
@@mjmcalister lol meant Julius Randle 😂. Looking back I'd probably throw Kyle Lowry in there over him, I'd say Lou could maybe fit in there over Tatum too maybe
Kyle Lowry definitely deserve to be on this list. Ingram not better, k love not better. There’s probably a couple more. Lowry gives good defense, great playmaking, good shooting. Y’all tripping
Lowry name been through the gutter for the same shit Kyrie, Dlo and Bledsoe did this past year, but they don't get called out for choking. People just hate on true point guards nowadays, they want point guards to put up 25 ppg and not raise the teams floor
Trae young not even better. Bro just won a championship as a 2nd to 3rd best player. People can say oh this dude is better than so and so but when it’s time to win they don’t. We need to rank players biased off ability to win
There's an argument for him to be on the list but the only one on the list I think he's better than is BI which is 50 so he would be dead 50 if I were to do a list
Victor Oladipo had the best clutch stats in the entire league last season when healthy. I get the injury stuff, but he was a top 15 player and a top 3 SG last season.
Facts. His averages only went down because he played 5 less minutes. He’s one of the best players in the league at elevating his teammates and a true competitor.
The thing is Vic was doing good before his initial knee injury in November (around 23 ppg, 5 apg, 7 rpg on 44-35-70 shooting splits). His averages went down but he was still putting up big numbers in his 15 games before the Nov. injury against the Hawks.
@@lesnakejames505 And Giannis is better in dunking, rebounding, defense and inside the rim. Does it make sense? They play in different positions. Also,Steph is at least 5 years older than Giannis.Come on you don't have to say dumb stuff as reasoning.Just say you don't like Giannis,big men or generally international players.
@@stylinbusiness4718 first of all defense dunking and rebounding as well as playing Inside isn't fair since Giannis is 6,11 also I like dirk luka yao ming among more but because I don't think Giannis is better then steph means I don't like international players big men or Giannis? ?
Kenny need to slap the stupid outta Mike. Vucevic over Gobert? Really? Because he was an allstar? I love you Mike but you really just made your credibility go down😂
Abdullahi Hassan wdym overrated? All-NBA Second Team (2017) All-NBA Third Team (2019) 2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2018, 2019) 3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2017-2019) NBA blocks leader (2017) Where do you see trash and overrated? He is a great defender and is the defensive anchor on his team
Lauren Sharp lmao u clown he didn’t deserve the first team or any of this DPOYs. He deserved it the year that draymond won and that was it. For him to be in all nba team is a joke he stands around and blocks ppl and isn’t mobile at all
Recap: 1. LeBron James 2. Kawhi Leonard 3. James Harden (T-4). Giannis Antetokounmpo (T-4). Steph Curry 6. Anthony Davis 7. Damian Lillard 8. Paul George 9. Nikola Jokić 10. Joel Embiid 11. Russell Westbrook 12. Karl Anthony Towns 13. Kyrie Irving 14. Blake Griffin 15. Bradley Beal 16. Jimmy Butler 17. Rudy Gobert 18. Kemba Walker 19. LaMarcus Aldridge 20. Devin Booker 21. Ben Simmons 22. Donovan Mitchell 23. Draymond Green 24. Victor Oladipo 25. Khris Middleton 26. ??? 27. Nikola Vučević 28. D'Angelo Russell 29. DeMar DeRozan 30. CJ McCollum 31. Pascal Siakam 32. Tobias Harris 33. Julius Randle 34. De'Aaron Fox 35. Luka Doncic 36. Danilo Gallinari 37. Mike Conley 38. Trae Young 39. Jrue Holiday 40. Al Horford 41. Chris Paul 42. Clint Capella 43. Andre Drummond 44. Zach LaVine 45. Bojan Bogdanović 46. Aaron Gordon 47. Jayson Tatum 48. John Collins 49. Lauri Markkanen 50. Brandon Ingram
Louis Hazel steph has the shooting and the rings but winningness isn’t counted in this it’s based purely off skill and impact and harden is more skillful and athletic than steph and that’s just plain facts
How many people get All-NBA, All-Defensive and DPOY with the highest FG% in the league in the same season? He deserves it and I love that Kenny also shows his respect even tho it's an unpopular oppinion to say Rudy is as good as he is
@@liamnicol9390 career wise I'd agree with you 100% but right now I'd still say Trae is the better player currently. Even tho he lacks defense his offense is just way more suited for the nba today. But overall careers? Yes Jrue 100%
Top 35 players imo are: 1.Lebron 2.Kawhi 3.Kd 4.Curry 5.Giannis 6.Harden 7.Ad 8.Jokic 9.Embid 10.Dame 11.George 12.Kyrie 13.Russ 14.Klay 15.Butler 16.KAT 17.Griffin 18.Demar 19.Beal 20.Demar 21.Lamarcus 22.Kemba 23. Rudy Gobert 24.CJ Mccollum 25.Ben Simmons 26.Donovan 27.Holiday 28.Draymond 29.Tobias 30.Lowry 31.D'angelo 32.Conley 33.Middleton 34.Vuc 35.Siakam Some of these players are obviosuly interchangable this just how I think they should be ranked.
Hey guys as an idea: you could all send your top 60 lists so that the numbers for the 50-45 range are more accurate because instead of everybody who isnt top 50 being worth the same, theres some difference in each of the players value.
@@ethanrodi6619 I know all that bro, Lou can score but him BEING A TOP 50 PLAYER RIGHT NOW Y'ALL CAPPIN I'll put Lou in the TOP 100 no disrespect tho. Again I'm not saying he ain't good but I don't think he's top 50.
So someone tell me, what has James Harden done to be ranked above Stephen Curry!? Steph puts Harden out of the playoffs every year, even without Kd. I need an explanation...and this is not me hating.
@@dylanrosenkrantz4474 Harden is not a better playmaker than Steph. He has the ball in his hands way more than Steph, and if Steph had a usage rating like Harden I think his numbers would be better than Harden's cause he is more efficient. But we all have opinions
curry has been on a good team for a while with great players around him while all harden has had so far is a good but not great cp3 and bad chemistry and capela who doesn’t bring much offense to the talbe and he still averages great numbers and is the best scorer of at least the past 2 years and still brings his team to a top 4 seed while as curry hasn’t had as much presure
You guys should make top 60 or 70 personal lists so your averages or more precise Instead of doing 49+46+48+51 (because he didn’t make someone’s list) you can do +55 to make his position more accurate
Jrue literally shut down Damian lillard for a whole series and gave you 24 points 5 rebounds 6 assist come one some of these player you got over him are on lottery teams , y’all should be on shaqtin a fool for this lmao
10 K they definitely disrespected jrue, but in that series against the blazers, it wasn’t just jrue locking up dame. Dame was getting double and triple teamed
Dray over VO.... idkkkkkkk. As a victor oladipo and pacer fan, I’m very very confident in him having another 20+ppg year and I think he’s gonna get that confidence and swagger back that he had in 2017
Max Violet I’m not, I’m just saying that as someone who follows Vic a lot (bc he’s my favorite player) I think he can get back to that all star form, he even said when he got hurt that the entire 2018-2019 season was already harder bc of some behind the scene stuff. And he got hurt at the beginning of the year
@@sh4nk7in Donovan is averaging like 24 4 4 are you kidding me? While VO is a great defender its not like Spida is so so bad. He's an average hell even a above average, jazz had like the best defense. And leader? Jazz had like 4 quality leaders in their team. Rubio, Spida, Ingles, and Favors.
Giannis is in a similar lane as Ben Simmons, albeit not as bad. A defensive minded team can almost completely remove Ben Simmons from the game in the playoffs due to lack of offensive ability and aggression. Giannis is more aggressive and is basically a sole focal point, so he can't be removed to nearly the same degree, but he can be significantly mitigated in playoffs by good defensive teams (need that shot). Harden cannot be removed and is no longer a straight up defensive liability, so while I hate garden's playstyle it is fair to say he's better than Giannis. Overall, ability to be actually impactful in late in the playoffs is what matters most.
Giannis is aggressive enough and has enough of a jumper that he'll still be threatening in the playoffs, but he takes a slight step back instead of forwards. Harden stayed about the same in the playoffs
No one gonna talk about Bryn Forbes for SAS's 3pt shooter? The only reason why SAS went to 7 with the nuggets. Couldve been a 4-1 if it wasnt for Forbes
@@markmaniagaming5411 oh my bad the title is misleading. Lou Will is not top 50? Come on now. 6 man of the year, 20 points in 26 mins, went toe to toe with KD and as clutch as any1 in the league.
I'm sorry guys. But Lebron ain't number 1. Thats highly overrating a player who finished 10th in the MVP race last season. I get it "He may be healthy this year and has a co-star" BUT take his individual play and understand that he should be ranked at #7 not #1.
Only complaint. U guys are spending so much time talking about the players ranked 50 and 49 and 48 and then speed through the top 20 and top 10 so quickly. That’s the debates we wanna hear why is Beal above butler, why is harden above steph, why is dame above pg. that’s why I watch this video. I don’t care who’s better between Markhanen and Gordon, cmon cuuuuuh. Love the podcast stylll.
Roy Akselrud agreed
Whats wrong with BBeal over Butler? He had a career year and was leading the team, while also playing average defense. Im a Jimmy fan, but for the past season he was not as good as BBeal nor was showing that he was better than Beal. And hell we're gonna see that now. With JB being the Heat's face and Beal being the Wizard's face.
Max Violet he was just giving examples..
Agreed for sure
Roy Akselrud agreeeeeed
Vucevic over Gobert? Come on Mike. You're better than this.
whats hiliarious is Dmills thought it was him that put Vuc higher.. you see him panick and check his list as they start talking about it :P
Thomas Dumont goberts better but I think kenny overreacted the gap isn’t far off even
Drezzz KG they always do
@bennett Name one middle schooler who could average 16 ppg? I get its hyperbole but it isn't even accurate. Gobert is fine offensively. Comparing him to Vucevic or Towns, or Jokic or whatever makes him look not as good. He is average to above average on offense though.
@@Noname-fr8rz Exactly gobert is better but he's not that much better like c'mon
There is no way Kyle Lowry ain't even in the 40's...y'all trippin
Lowry gets hate for not putting up counting stats... You can always spot the casual who ain't watching games and just watching highlights when they saying Lowry not a top 7 PG.
TC cough cough Darrick but Lowry top 7 might be a stretch
@@PrimeSplxsh name 7 point guards better than Lowry
@@TheBladerPro Curry, Lillard, WB, Irving, CP3, D'Lo, D. Fox, Kemba. That's 8
@@PrimeSplxsh nigga, D. Mills was the only one to have Kyle Lowry on his list are you shitting me? The only reason why he didnt make it cuz the other 3 didnt have him
Lowry not being on this list is DISRESPECTFUL
Yeah I have Lowry top 20
I mean he’s definitely top 50 but tbh hes not that good and he chokes in the playoffs
Sarcone I thought you casuals would eat your words about Kyle Lowry after this finals especially game 7 but guess not
@@cameronahmad8219 game 7 in the finals?
Gabriel Shaffer lol you know what I mean. Game 6*
Do a top 10 underrated/overrated list
Yeah
kostantinos adam yeesss
kostantinos adam top 10 seems a little too much but regardless, just a video of them discussing overrated and underrated players. They made a video like that before
kostantinos adam Jrue is the #1 underrated
If you watch this podcast you know Kenny hate the word underrated so that ain’t happening
Jrue at 39 is disrespectful
Plus Trae Young over him
Xavier Jobe mosts lists have him around the 21-24 range
I know he gotta be at like 22
Yeah I have him 20th
Bosco Tung 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
is the next going to be top 50 all time?
like if you want to see it
They won’t ever do it Bc of all the players they’ve never seen
I dont
On my whole life there isnt 50 players better than kyle lowry
Cap
Shakir Dee facts. And there’s not 38 players better than Jrue
I mean he a 6’1 guard that’s pretty up there in age..I mean take any PG in the league besides maybe 5 and the Raptors still winning the championship no cap 😂😂
He’s an all star but not top 5
@@jamiefoxx2161 Hell no Lowry was crucial to that run. Kyrie wouldnt have made the grit plays that lowry made.
P is the goat for rocking the Sean Taylor jersey.
Kevin Durant & Klay Thompson changes this whole list
yeah and victor oladipo got in the top 50 lol
It’s cuz oladipo gon be back in like nov./dec. while Klay and kid are likely out the entire season(Klay possibly will be back)
@@d-foxthegoat1922 c'mon bruh, read the title...TOP 50 PLAYERS IN THE NBA, maybe if they changed it to "Top 50 Players entering the upcoming NBA season" then it would make sense, but no, they actually made it more complicated
swaggy p Ik, I was just providing a plausible explanation for why they weren’t included. I didn’t like the format either.
swaggy p its not that deep bro, they wont be here for the season so they arent in the list lol. just stick klay at like 14 and kd at 2 and thats it
No Kyle Lowry makes zero sense and I wouldn’t even have him in the 40s wow he was an all star last year
Sherwin John because of kawhi
Matthew Rothman Because of Kawhi what? He was an all star? He made like four other all star teams without Kawhi
Kyle isn’t the best player at anything but he works hard and does a lot of dirty work..there are players like him already that’s why he didn’t make it
Sherwin John don’t be playing the mike card where he was an all star last year. 😂 Would you say he is an all star in the west with curry,westbrook,klay etc
Sherwin John if he was in the west they’d spit at your face for evening entertaining the idea of Lowry being an all-star.
Lowry has been top 20 on sports illustrated only 2 or 3 years ago and is consistently top 30.... y'all are HEAVY DISSING... floor general of a championship team
He didn’t do shit got carried by Kawhi
Kbuss04 wasteman
@@kbuss4 th-cam.com/video/lyCYzSrYp-k/w-d-xo.html since your dumbass prolly only watch highlights
degerg and he's definitely proving them wrong so far this year. Man's averaging 24 and 7
@@kbuss4 how you feel about this comment 4 months later 🤣
Why didn’t they talked about McCollum LOL they said the name and cut straight to the next player
Editing mishap
Recap:
50 Ingram
49 Lauri Markkanen
48 John Collins
47 Tatum
46 Aaron Gordon
45 Bojan Bogdanovic
44 Zach Lavine
43 Andre Drummond
42 Clint Capela
41 Chris Paul
40 Al Horford
39 Jrue Holiday
38 Trae Young
37 Mike Conley
36 Danilo Gallinari
35 Luka Doncic
34 DeAron Fox
33 Julius Randle
32 Tobias Harris
31 Pascal Siakam
30 Cj Mccollum
29 Demar Derozan
28 D'Angelo Russell
27 Nikola Vucevic
26 Recap:
50 Ingram
49 Lauri Markkanen
48 John Collins
47 Tatum
46 Aaron Gordon
45 Bojan Bogdanovic
44 Zach Lavine
43 Andre Drummond
42 Clint Capela
41 Chris Paul
40 Al Horford
39 Jrue Holiday
38 Trae Young
37 Mike Conley
36 Danilo Gallinari
35 Luka Doncic
34 DeAron Fox
33 Julius Randle
32 Tobias Harris
31 Pascal Siakam
30 Cj Mccollum
29 Demar Derozan
28 D'Angelo Russell
27 Nikola Vucevic
26
25 Khris Middleton
24 Victor Oladipo
23 Draymond Green
22 Donovan Mitchell
21 Ben Simmons
20 Devin Booker
19 Lamarcus Aldridge
18 Kemba Walker
17 Rudy Gobert
16 Jimmy Butler
15 Bradley Beal
14 Blake Griffin
13 Kyrie Irving
12 Karl Anthony Towns
11 Russell Westbrook
10 Joel Embiid
9 Nikola Jokic
8 Paul George
7 Damian Lillard
6 Anthony Davis
Tied 4 Stephen Curry Giannis
3 James Harden
2 Kawhi Leonard
1 Lebron James
Maybe I missed Klay, but definitely you didn't mention KD guys, but in general pretty good list
Kd injured so there is no point
Its crazy they missed #26 - My guess is Klay Thompson or Buddy Hield
Yea they only had 49 players wtf
@@DWEthiopia klay wouldnt have been below green and thats too high for buddy. maybe buddy was 50th and everything should move back 1
Middleton too high where is Lowry he’s most definitely better than at least 10 guys on that list
There’s something about the way darrick say “pj tuckah” 😩
This is good content right here fellas. Don’t agree with everything I heard but I’m proud👏🏾👏🏾
2018-19:
1. Kawhi Leonard
2. Kevin Durant
3. Stephen Curry
4. Giannis Anttetokunmpo
5. James Harden
6. LeBron James
7. Anthony Davis
8. Paul George
9. Nikola Jokic
10. Joel Embiid
11. Damian Lillard
12. Kyrie Irving
13. Russell Westbrook
14. Karl-Anthony Towns
15. Blake Griffin
16. Jimmy Butler
17. Klay Thompson
18. Kemba Walker
19. Bradley Beal
20. Ben Simmons
21. Devin Booker
22. D'angelo Russell
23. LaMarcus Aldridge
24. Rudy Gobert
25. Donavan Mitchell
26. Luka Doncic
27. Nikola Vucevic
28. Mike Conley
29. Khris Middleton
30. Demar DeRozan
31. CJ McCollum
32. Jrue Holiday
33. Myles Turner
34. Draymond Green
35. Tobias Harris
36. Danilo Galinari
37. Trae Young
38. Pascal Siakam
39. Al Horford
40. De Aaron Fox
41. Julius Erving
42. Chris Paul
43. Buddy Heild
44. Zach LaVine
45. Bojan Bogdonovic
46. John Collins
47. Lauri Markenan
48. Jayson Tatum
49. Andre Drummond
50. Clint Capela
No Kristaps, Oladipo or cousins cause injuries
V.I.B'Z 41. Julius Erving.. pretty good list tho, I would switch the order around in the top 7. Also bogdonovic is not top 50. Think Lou Williams should take his spot or Kyle Lowry
@@mjmcalister lol meant Julius Randle 😂. Looking back I'd probably throw Kyle Lowry in there over him, I'd say Lou could maybe fit in there over Tatum too maybe
Kyle Lowry definitely deserve to be on this list. Ingram not better, k love not better. There’s probably a couple more. Lowry gives good defense, great playmaking, good shooting. Y’all tripping
Lowry name been through the gutter for the same shit Kyrie, Dlo and Bledsoe did this past year, but they don't get called out for choking. People just hate on true point guards nowadays, they want point guards to put up 25 ppg and not raise the teams floor
He is 6 1 and still the scrappiest guard on the floor. He Top 38 fo sure
Trae young not even better. Bro just won a championship as a 2nd to 3rd best player. People can say oh this dude is better than so and so but when it’s time to win they don’t. We need to rank players biased off ability to win
@@16bmidniterfoxo woah woah. I love true point guards but ih my he was choking. I swear he had like 10 TO in da playoffs
WOW! The disrespect to NBA champion Kyle Lowry
yeah....I dont even think he that great, and even I think its crazy he isnt here
There's an argument for him to be on the list but the only one on the list I think he's better than is BI which is 50 so he would be dead 50 if I were to do a list
@@Jaymanwon how do you feel about this opinion 4 months later 🤣
Trae Young>Jrue Holiday? Lmfao
Kobe Wan Kenobi he is better
Jared Rivera okay I think fox is better than young but young is better than holiday
@@jbest31 Jrue Holidays defense puts him over young in my opinion but I do have to say Young has a way better offensive skillset.
Lol Embiid is not in their top 10.
Kobe Wan Kenobi Jrue was way too low on this list for sure
Victor Oladipo had the best clutch stats in the entire league last season when healthy. I get the injury stuff, but he was a top 15 player and a top 3 SG last season.
@Eric Lewis name players better than him please
Facts. His averages only went down because he played 5 less minutes. He’s one of the best players in the league at elevating his teammates and a true competitor.
They underrating the guy Vic
The thing is Vic was doing good before his initial knee injury in November (around 23 ppg, 5 apg, 7 rpg on 44-35-70 shooting splits). His averages went down but he was still putting up big numbers in his 15 games before the Nov. injury against the Hawks.
Clicked off when Kenny said KLow ain’t on the list...
💯
Bob Ibaka how u typing a comment if you clicked off
I honestly feel like this top 5 was pretty bad. My top 5 personally would be:
5. Harden
4. Curry
3. Giannis
2. LeBron
1. Kawhi
Without injuries
1:KD
2:King James
3:AD
4:The Claw
5:Greek Freak
6:Chef Curry
7:Harden
8:Luka
9:PG13
10:Dame Dolla
I'm taking Steph over Giannis since Steph has more accomplishments at this point and is better when it comes to Scoring Ball Handling Playmaking
@@lesnakejames505 And Giannis is better in dunking, rebounding, defense and inside the rim. Does it make sense? They play in different positions. Also,Steph is at least 5 years older than Giannis.Come on you don't have to say dumb stuff as reasoning.Just say you don't like Giannis,big men or generally international players.
@@stylinbusiness4718 first of all defense dunking and rebounding as well as playing Inside isn't fair since Giannis is 6,11 also I like dirk luka yao ming among more but because I don't think Giannis is better then steph means I don't like international players big men or Giannis? ?
Giannis, kawhi, lebron, curry
This showed up in my recommended and yk what I’m watching it
It's a gooood day, got a new ttw episode and we got football back
Y’all should make a video of the top 10 defenders at each position
From this list, I don't think these dudes are aware that defense is part of the game
Billy Ray Kenny actually praises defense more than offense
King Quin25 just because he says it doesn’t mean he does... and he doesn’t
No kyle Lowry is so disrespectful
Everyone they named was better
@@aidancontreras4805 No,they didn't, shut yo ass up.
Kenny need to slap the stupid outta Mike. Vucevic over Gobert? Really? Because he was an allstar? I love you Mike but you really just made your credibility go down😂
Lauren Sharp imagine not being able to have a opinion 😂
Lauren Sharp YES TF GOBERT IS OVERRATED AND SUCKS
@@abdullahihassan7344 you just exposed yourself
Abdullahi Hassan wdym overrated?
All-NBA Second Team (2017)
All-NBA Third Team (2019)
2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2018, 2019)
3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2017-2019)
NBA blocks leader (2017)
Where do you see trash and overrated? He is a great defender and is the defensive anchor on his team
Lauren Sharp lmao u clown he didn’t deserve the first team or any of this DPOYs. He deserved it the year that draymond won and that was it. For him to be in all nba team is a joke he stands around and blocks ppl and isn’t mobile at all
My dumba$$ thought they left Klay and KD out .. Then it hit me
I felt so sad when I first started listening to this podcast and after listening to it I just feel like myself again. Love you guys!
Just by the thumbnail I kno d mills said some wild shit again lmao 😂
E Shin Lmao. He put Ben Simmons at 32 😂😂
38:55 Mikes face was me when he was defending vucevic
Y’all really think Brandon Ingram is better than Jamal murray😂
Ingram is better than Jamal Murray
Itsyaboi Nick LMAOOOOO
Yes
yeah....
Y’all tripping Jamal Murray is proven
My boy Pierre wearing my favorite NFL player of all time Sean Taylor
Him wearing that jersey made my day
@Ryan Williams Same
Yeah he posted it on his ig
Curry definitely better than Harden. Curry has his best playoff performance ever last year. And knocked out Harden without KD
watching this in 2020 seeing how much the players improved from last year
Recap:
1. LeBron James
2. Kawhi Leonard
3. James Harden
(T-4). Giannis Antetokounmpo
(T-4). Steph Curry
6. Anthony Davis
7. Damian Lillard
8. Paul George
9. Nikola Jokić
10. Joel Embiid
11. Russell Westbrook
12. Karl Anthony Towns
13. Kyrie Irving
14. Blake Griffin
15. Bradley Beal
16. Jimmy Butler
17. Rudy Gobert
18. Kemba Walker
19. LaMarcus Aldridge
20. Devin Booker
21. Ben Simmons
22. Donovan Mitchell
23. Draymond Green
24. Victor Oladipo
25. Khris Middleton
26. ???
27. Nikola Vučević
28. D'Angelo Russell
29. DeMar DeRozan
30. CJ McCollum
31. Pascal Siakam
32. Tobias Harris
33. Julius Randle
34. De'Aaron Fox
35. Luka Doncic
36. Danilo Gallinari
37. Mike Conley
38. Trae Young
39. Jrue Holiday
40. Al Horford
41. Chris Paul
42. Clint Capella
43. Andre Drummond
44. Zach LaVine
45. Bojan Bogdanović
46. Aaron Gordon
47. Jayson Tatum
48. John Collins
49. Lauri Markkanen
50. Brandon Ingram
these are funny to go back and watch right now knowing what this season has brought
Harden over Steph is laughable
If you are an idiot, is laughable.
Tbh its pretty close
Its no debate, Steph is a better basketball player than Harden
Louis Hazel steph has the shooting and the rings but winningness isn’t counted in this it’s based purely off skill and impact and harden is more skillful and athletic than steph and that’s just plain facts
@@dillonforsythe9012 harden does nothing better except iso and rebound, and even as a pg, steph is a good rebounder 🤷♂️
Shoutout Kenny for doin the math
When did Dennis Smith jr & Seth curry start a podcast
Lmaooo
Who Dennis Smith 😂😂
Captain Shank he play for the knicks
Roman Guerra he talkin bout which one out of da 4 of em is Dennis Smith🤦🏽♂️
Slime A Lot blue shirt
Lol as a Sixers fan I respect Pierre defending Ben Simmons like that.
Kenny way too in love with Rudy
How many people get All-NBA, All-Defensive and DPOY with the highest FG% in the league in the same season?
He deserves it and I love that Kenny also shows his respect even tho it's an unpopular oppinion to say Rudy is as good as he is
coltin Kat deserved that all nba over him
@@danieloshaughnessy302 naaaah, KAT should play the 4, KAT and ADs game are perfect for a modern 4, Gobert is the perfect 5
I love the way they talk about Simmons, agree with every point they made, they were spittin fax
Find anyone’s list. People put Jrue in top 25 which is where he should be. Him at 39 is disrespectful
AMEN! especially looking at the people right above him. Defense counts too!
He definitely better then Trae
@@peterjo5215 that didn't age well
@@fuckoff1099 jrue won a chip i'd say it aged alright
@@liamnicol9390 career wise I'd agree with you 100% but right now I'd still say Trae is the better player currently. Even tho he lacks defense his offense is just way more suited for the nba today. But overall careers? Yes Jrue 100%
Top 35 players imo are:
1.Lebron
2.Kawhi
3.Kd
4.Curry
5.Giannis
6.Harden
7.Ad
8.Jokic
9.Embid
10.Dame
11.George
12.Kyrie
13.Russ
14.Klay
15.Butler
16.KAT
17.Griffin
18.Demar
19.Beal
20.Demar
21.Lamarcus
22.Kemba
23. Rudy Gobert
24.CJ Mccollum
25.Ben Simmons
26.Donovan
27.Holiday
28.Draymond
29.Tobias
30.Lowry
31.D'angelo
32.Conley
33.Middleton
34.Vuc
35.Siakam
Some of these players are obviosuly interchangable this just how I think they should be ranked.
I would put KAT a lil higher and switch Emiid and Jokic but I agree with everything else
Watching this now and seeing Fox higher than Luka 😂
Hey guys as an idea: you could all send your top 60 lists so that the numbers for the 50-45 range are more accurate because instead of everybody who isnt top 50 being worth the same, theres some difference in each of the players value.
The pressure for the new Orleans blue Devils is on jalil
AMAZING LIST!!!
Idk if you guys forgot him but Lou will should be a top 50 player.
Trez is a top 50 player too for sure
Nigga he's a good player but why can't he be a STARTER on all teams he's been on. Makes no sense with me.
Hashirama Senju he’s very capable of being a starter, teams like him coming off the bench to give a scoring spark
@@alphonsesenjutsu 20 ppl off the bench.
@@ethanrodi6619 I know all that bro, Lou can score but him BEING A TOP 50 PLAYER RIGHT NOW Y'ALL CAPPIN I'll put Lou in the TOP 100 no disrespect tho. Again I'm not saying he ain't good but I don't think he's top 50.
So someone tell me, what has James Harden done to be ranked above Stephen Curry!? Steph puts Harden out of the playoffs every year, even without Kd. I need an explanation...and this is not me hating.
Probably because of Harden’s regular season makes him higher up but I feel like it can go either way.
Curry puts him bc he is on a better team. Harden is a better scorer, playmaker, rebounder, and defender. Curry only has him beat on shooting
@@dylanrosenkrantz4474 Harden is not a better playmaker than Steph. He has the ball in his hands way more than Steph, and if Steph had a usage rating like Harden I think his numbers would be better than Harden's cause he is more efficient. But we all have opinions
curry has been on a good team for a while with great players around him while all harden has had so far is a good but not great cp3 and bad chemistry and capela who doesn’t bring much offense to the talbe and he still averages great numbers and is the best scorer of at least the past 2 years and still brings his team to a top 4 seed while as curry hasn’t had as much presure
Sounds like a Pierre and D Mills type thing
56:31 P said “Imma head out”
Crazy how much can change in a year
Dropped it early before football starts smart
AND WE BACK
Harden over Steph is CRAZY🤣
Much love from Gothenburg, Sweden
You guys should make top 60 or 70 personal lists so your averages or more precise
Instead of doing 49+46+48+51 (because he didn’t make someone’s list) you can do +55 to make his position more accurate
Y’all tripping Jrue Holiday A+ defense w B+ offense = A overall player 22 points 8 assist last year
Give me Jrue over Middleton, DeRozan, CJ
Jrue literally shut down Damian lillard for a whole series and gave you 24 points 5 rebounds 6 assist come one some of these player you got over him are on lottery teams , y’all should be on shaqtin a fool for this lmao
10 K they definitely disrespected jrue, but in that series against the blazers, it wasn’t just jrue locking up dame. Dame was getting double and triple teamed
I might need to find a different podcast, y’all really just put Harden over Steph Curry
It's faxx!!
Hardens been going nuts these past couple years literally 36-7-7 like what do u mean😂
Donavin Robles the IMPACT of Steph Curry is unrivaled. He is a cheat code for any offense.
Eric Lewis He just needed time to develop his game and get past all his ankle problems
Donavin Robles But Steph destroyed Harden’s Rockets in the wcf while playing with a very thin bench
It’s interesting watching this almost halfway through the season
Dray over VO.... idkkkkkkk. As a victor oladipo and pacer fan, I’m very very confident in him having another 20+ppg year and I think he’s gonna get that confidence and swagger back that he had in 2017
P literally just told you. Dont hold onto that year
Captain Shank draymond is the only player in nba history to play how he does. No draymond, and the warriors sitting on 0 championships
Max Violet I’m not, I’m just saying that as someone who follows Vic a lot (bc he’s my favorite player) I think he can get back to that all star form, he even said when he got hurt that the entire 2018-2019 season was already harder bc of some behind the scene stuff. And he got hurt at the beginning of the year
OffBrisk ya but they put Donovan Mitchell over him when vo is a better defender, playmaker, and leader
@@sh4nk7in Donovan is averaging like 24 4 4 are you kidding me? While VO is a great defender its not like Spida is so so bad. He's an average hell even a above average, jazz had like the best defense. And leader? Jazz had like 4 quality leaders in their team. Rubio, Spida, Ingles, and Favors.
Watching this back a years later holy lauri or Bi sounds crazy
19:54 Pierre Hairline.exe has shut down
Ben Simmons is an elite passer at the age of 23, it's really weird that no-one talks about that
Y’all been on y’all shit shout out to through the wire man keep doing ya thing 💯!!
So your telling me there are 50 players in the league that are better than Buddy Hield 😧😧
BEST PODCAST IN SPORTS
100% DMills messed this list up.
He be having the most ridiculous players on his top 50
Pierre's face when Kenny is talking shit on be n Simmons aggression was priceless lol
We gott see Derrick's list, that is one crazy list, Kevin Love at 5 what, Simmons 32. I need this list please
Moses Kuku he meant 45
He meant 5 of power forwards
Its so funny how passionate Pierre is about Devin Booker
Imagine having James harden over steph curry
Yo you guys are awesome been watching for half a year probably; keep this shit up! Always entertaining 🙏🏻
Could diss Kenny and his family and he chill say one word about rudy tho 😂😂😂
Let’s go been waiting for this for a minute
No Kyle Lowry is insane. I have him in the 30s
I am just liking this video because i wanna support the podcast thats the only reason
where jamal murray at?
Not on the list wym?
these most recent comments not comprehending that this was before last season
FRRR they like bro first off they don’t even know these guys and second they roasting them when this was a year old
i’m mad i hate that i have to watch your show whenever i see it on youtube it takes away from my podcasts 😭😭😭
Is this a new way to self promote
12 minutes into the video yall still explaining your process. It was simple. We got it P.
Harden over steph AND GIANNIS OH HELL NAWWW HELLL HELL NAWWW DAWGG NAHHH!!
Sijan Grg bruh they tripping
Giannis is in a similar lane as Ben Simmons, albeit not as bad. A defensive minded team can almost completely remove Ben Simmons from the game in the playoffs due to lack of offensive ability and aggression. Giannis is more aggressive and is basically a sole focal point, so he can't be removed to nearly the same degree, but he can be significantly mitigated in playoffs by good defensive teams (need that shot). Harden cannot be removed and is no longer a straight up defensive liability, so while I hate garden's playstyle it is fair to say he's better than Giannis. Overall, ability to be actually impactful in late in the playoffs is what matters most.
Giannis is aggressive enough and has enough of a jumper that he'll still be threatening in the playoffs, but he takes a slight step back instead of forwards. Harden stayed about the same in the playoffs
No one gonna talk about Bryn Forbes for SAS's 3pt shooter? The only reason why SAS went to 7 with the nuggets. Couldve been a 4-1 if it wasnt for Forbes
Dude was shooting 43% while averaging 12ppg. On 5 attempts
1. Lebron
2. Kawhi
3. Hardem
4. Giannis
5. Steph
Perfect
This is such a goated series
No KD???!!! No Lou Will?! No Boogie?? No Klay?! No Jamal Murray??!!
Abdulla Raofee before you comment this think about why kd and klay aren’t on this list
All of them are hurt and lou will not top 50
Lou Will, Jamal Murray and Kyle lowry should definitely be on this lost.
@@markmaniagaming5411 oh my bad the title is misleading. Lou Will is not top 50? Come on now. 6 man of the year, 20 points in 26 mins, went toe to toe with KD and as clutch as any1 in the league.
Jrue Holiday needs to be like top 25-30
V Oladipo at 24? You trippin. He made 15 on my list🔑
he was too low on the sg list too
Bro that synergy tho 10:44
What was that weird cut when they said Cj McCollum?
They be roastin Mike like crazy on the low and Derrick is happy af he ain't the fall guy anymore l0l
Tittle should be “Top 50 Going into this Season”
Lol is it because KD and Klay not on this list
Thx for posting these top 10 and shit kinda podcasts its tight
I'm sorry guys. But Lebron ain't number 1. Thats highly overrating a player who finished 10th in the MVP race last season. I get it "He may be healthy this year and has a co-star" BUT take his individual play and understand that he should be ranked at #7 not #1.
To be honest Kyle Lowry not being on your top 10 pg list was disrespectful enough. So I'm not surprised by this right here.
The marksman over Ingram alright
1.kawhi
2.kd
3.harden
4.giannis
5.curry
6.davis
7. LeBron
8.westbrook
9.george
10.embiid
Good list but lebron is higher and ad isn’t top ten
Was CJ McCollum 30th? They kind of skipped over it. Was looking forward to their reasoning for him. 25:55 weird edit just cuts everything
@Eric Lewis never said he should or shouldn't be 30th, but I think that's where they placed him. I'd have him around 24/25 ish