Ranking Top 50 Players In The NBA | Through The Wire Podcast
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Only complaint. U guys are spending so much time talking about the players ranked 50 and 49 and 48 and then speed through the top 20 and top 10 so quickly. That’s the debates we wanna hear why is Beal above butler, why is harden above steph, why is dame above pg. that’s why I watch this video. I don’t care who’s better between Markhanen and Gordon, cmon cuuuuuh. Love the podcast stylll.
Roy Akselrud agreed
Whats wrong with BBeal over Butler? He had a career year and was leading the team, while also playing average defense. Im a Jimmy fan, but for the past season he was not as good as BBeal nor was showing that he was better than Beal. And hell we're gonna see that now. With JB being the Heat's face and Beal being the Wizard's face.
Max Violet he was just giving examples..
Agreed for sure
Roy Akselrud agreeeeeed
There is no way Kyle Lowry ain't even in the 40's...y'all trippin
Lowry gets hate for not putting up counting stats... You can always spot the casual who ain't watching games and just watching highlights when they saying Lowry not a top 7 PG.
TC cough cough Darrick but Lowry top 7 might be a stretch
@@PrimeSplxsh name 7 point guards better than Lowry
@@TheBladerPro Curry, Lillard, WB, Irving, CP3, D'Lo, D. Fox, Kemba. That's 8
@@PrimeSplxsh nigga, D. Mills was the only one to have Kyle Lowry on his list are you shitting me? The only reason why he didnt make it cuz the other 3 didnt have him
Vucevic over Gobert? Come on Mike. You're better than this.
whats hiliarious is Dmills thought it was him that put Vuc higher.. you see him panick and check his list as they start talking about it :P
Thomas Dumont goberts better but I think kenny overreacted the gap isn’t far off even
Drezzz KG they always do
@bennett Name one middle schooler who could average 16 ppg? I get its hyperbole but it isn't even accurate. Gobert is fine offensively. Comparing him to Vucevic or Towns, or Jokic or whatever makes him look not as good. He is average to above average on offense though.
@@Noname-fr8rz Exactly gobert is better but he's not that much better like c'mon
Do a top 10 underrated/overrated list
Yeah
kostantinos adam yeesss
kostantinos adam top 10 seems a little too much but regardless, just a video of them discussing overrated and underrated players. They made a video like that before
kostantinos adam Jrue is the #1 underrated
If you watch this podcast you know Kenny hate the word underrated so that ain’t happening
Lowry not being on this list is DISRESPECTFUL
Yeah I have Lowry top 20
I mean he’s definitely top 50 but tbh hes not that good and he chokes in the playoffs
Sarcone I thought you casuals would eat your words about Kyle Lowry after this finals especially game 7 but guess not
@@cameronahmad8219 game 7 in the finals?
Gabriel Shaffer lol you know what I mean. Game 6*
No Kyle Lowry makes zero sense and I wouldn’t even have him in the 40s wow he was an all star last year
Sherwin John because of kawhi
Matthew Rothman Because of Kawhi what? He was an all star? He made like four other all star teams without Kawhi
Kyle isn’t the best player at anything but he works hard and does a lot of dirty work..there are players like him already that’s why he didn’t make it
Sherwin John don’t be playing the mike card where he was an all star last year. 😂 Would you say he is an all star in the west with curry,westbrook,klay etc
Sherwin John if he was in the west they’d spit at your face for evening entertaining the idea of Lowry being an all-star.
Why didn’t they talked about McCollum LOL they said the name and cut straight to the next player
Editing mishap
Lowry has been top 20 on sports illustrated only 2 or 3 years ago and is consistently top 30.... y'all are HEAVY DISSING... floor general of a championship team
He didn’t do shit got carried by Kawhi
Kbuss04 wasteman
@@kbuss4 th-cam.com/video/lyCYzSrYp-k/w-d-xo.html since your dumbass prolly only watch highlights
degerg and he's definitely proving them wrong so far this year. Man's averaging 24 and 7
@@kbuss4 how you feel about this comment 4 months later 🤣
P is the goat for rocking the Sean Taylor jersey.
is the next going to be top 50 all time?
like if you want to see it
They won’t ever do it Bc of all the players they’ve never seen
I dont
Jrue at 39 is disrespectful
Plus Trae Young over him
Xavier Jobe mosts lists have him around the 21-24 range
I know he gotta be at like 22
Yeah I have him 20th
Bosco Tung 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
There’s something about the way darrick say “pj tuckah” 😩
Kevin Durant & Klay Thompson changes this whole list
yeah and victor oladipo got in the top 50 lol
It’s cuz oladipo gon be back in like nov./dec. while Klay and kid are likely out the entire season(Klay possibly will be back)
@@d-foxthegoat1922 c'mon bruh, read the title...TOP 50 PLAYERS IN THE NBA, maybe if they changed it to "Top 50 Players entering the upcoming NBA season" then it would make sense, but no, they actually made it more complicated
swaggy p Ik, I was just providing a plausible explanation for why they weren’t included. I didn’t like the format either.
swaggy p its not that deep bro, they wont be here for the season so they arent in the list lol. just stick klay at like 14 and kd at 2 and thats it
On my whole life there isnt 50 players better than kyle lowry
Kyle Lowry is trash
Cap
Shakir Dee facts. And there’s not 38 players better than Jrue
I mean he a 6’1 guard that’s pretty up there in age..I mean take any PG in the league besides maybe 5 and the Raptors still winning the championship no cap 😂😂
He’s an all star but not top 5
Kyle Lowry definitely deserve to be on this list. Ingram not better, k love not better. There’s probably a couple more. Lowry gives good defense, great playmaking, good shooting. Y’all tripping
Lowry name been through the gutter for the same shit Kyrie, Dlo and Bledsoe did this past year, but they don't get called out for choking. People just hate on true point guards nowadays, they want point guards to put up 25 ppg and not raise the teams floor
He is 6 1 and still the scrappiest guard on the floor. He Top 38 fo sure
Trae young not even better. Bro just won a championship as a 2nd to 3rd best player. People can say oh this dude is better than so and so but when it’s time to win they don’t. We need to rank players biased off ability to win
@@16bmidniterfoxo woah woah. I love true point guards but ih my he was choking. I swear he had like 10 TO in da playoffs
Recap:
50 Ingram
49 Lauri Markkanen
48 John Collins
47 Tatum
46 Aaron Gordon
45 Bojan Bogdanovic
44 Zach Lavine
43 Andre Drummond
42 Clint Capela
41 Chris Paul
40 Al Horford
39 Jrue Holiday
38 Trae Young
37 Mike Conley
36 Danilo Gallinari
35 Luka Doncic
34 DeAron Fox
33 Julius Randle
32 Tobias Harris
31 Pascal Siakam
30 Cj Mccollum
29 Demar Derozan
28 D'Angelo Russell
27 Nikola Vucevic
26 Recap:
50 Ingram
49 Lauri Markkanen
48 John Collins
47 Tatum
46 Aaron Gordon
45 Bojan Bogdanovic
44 Zach Lavine
43 Andre Drummond
42 Clint Capela
41 Chris Paul
40 Al Horford
39 Jrue Holiday
38 Trae Young
37 Mike Conley
36 Danilo Gallinari
35 Luka Doncic
34 DeAron Fox
33 Julius Randle
32 Tobias Harris
31 Pascal Siakam
30 Cj Mccollum
29 Demar Derozan
28 D'Angelo Russell
27 Nikola Vucevic
26
25 Khris Middleton
24 Victor Oladipo
23 Draymond Green
22 Donovan Mitchell
21 Ben Simmons
20 Devin Booker
19 Lamarcus Aldridge
18 Kemba Walker
17 Rudy Gobert
16 Jimmy Butler
15 Bradley Beal
14 Blake Griffin
13 Kyrie Irving
12 Karl Anthony Towns
11 Russell Westbrook
10 Joel Embiid
9 Nikola Jokic
8 Paul George
7 Damian Lillard
6 Anthony Davis
Tied 4 Stephen Curry Giannis
3 James Harden
2 Kawhi Leonard
1 Lebron James
Maybe I missed Klay, but definitely you didn't mention KD guys, but in general pretty good list
Kd injured so there is no point
Its crazy they missed #26 - My guess is Klay Thompson or Buddy Hield
Yea they only had 49 players wtf
@@DWEthiopia klay wouldnt have been below green and thats too high for buddy. maybe buddy was 50th and everything should move back 1
Middleton too high where is Lowry he’s most definitely better than at least 10 guys on that list
This is good content right here fellas. Don’t agree with everything I heard but I’m proud👏🏾👏🏾
Victor Oladipo had the best clutch stats in the entire league last season when healthy. I get the injury stuff, but he was a top 15 player and a top 3 SG last season.
@Eric Lewis name players better than him please
Facts. His averages only went down because he played 5 less minutes. He’s one of the best players in the league at elevating his teammates and a true competitor.
They underrating the guy Vic
The thing is Vic was doing good before his initial knee injury in November (around 23 ppg, 5 apg, 7 rpg on 44-35-70 shooting splits). His averages went down but he was still putting up big numbers in his 15 games before the Nov. injury against the Hawks.
WOW! The disrespect to NBA champion Kyle Lowry
yeah....I dont even think he that great, and even I think its crazy he isnt here
There's an argument for him to be on the list but the only one on the list I think he's better than is BI which is 50 so he would be dead 50 if I were to do a list
@@Jaymanwon how do you feel about this opinion 4 months later 🤣
2018-19:
1. Kawhi Leonard
2. Kevin Durant
3. Stephen Curry
4. Giannis Anttetokunmpo
5. James Harden
6. LeBron James
7. Anthony Davis
8. Paul George
9. Nikola Jokic
10. Joel Embiid
11. Damian Lillard
12. Kyrie Irving
13. Russell Westbrook
14. Karl-Anthony Towns
15. Blake Griffin
16. Jimmy Butler
17. Klay Thompson
18. Kemba Walker
19. Bradley Beal
20. Ben Simmons
21. Devin Booker
22. D'angelo Russell
23. LaMarcus Aldridge
24. Rudy Gobert
25. Donavan Mitchell
26. Luka Doncic
27. Nikola Vucevic
28. Mike Conley
29. Khris Middleton
30. Demar DeRozan
31. CJ McCollum
32. Jrue Holiday
33. Myles Turner
34. Draymond Green
35. Tobias Harris
36. Danilo Galinari
37. Trae Young
38. Pascal Siakam
39. Al Horford
40. De Aaron Fox
41. Julius Erving
42. Chris Paul
43. Buddy Heild
44. Zach LaVine
45. Bojan Bogdonovic
46. John Collins
47. Lauri Markenan
48. Jayson Tatum
49. Andre Drummond
50. Clint Capela
No Kristaps, Oladipo or cousins cause injuries
V.I.B'Z 41. Julius Erving.. pretty good list tho, I would switch the order around in the top 7. Also bogdonovic is not top 50. Think Lou Williams should take his spot or Kyle Lowry
@@mjmcalister lol meant Julius Randle 😂. Looking back I'd probably throw Kyle Lowry in there over him, I'd say Lou could maybe fit in there over Tatum too maybe
Clicked off when Kenny said KLow ain’t on the list...
💯
Bob Ibaka how u typing a comment if you clicked off
Trae Young>Jrue Holiday? Lmfao
Kobe Wan Kenobi he is better
And he had Trae Young that high but didn't have Fox on his list at all lol.
Jared Rivera okay I think fox is better than young but young is better than holiday
@@jbest31 Jrue Holidays defense puts him over young in my opinion but I do have to say Young has a way better offensive skillset.
Lol Embiid is not in their top 10.
Yo you guys are awesome been watching for half a year probably; keep this shit up! Always entertaining 🙏🏻
these are funny to go back and watch right now knowing what this season has brought
Y’all been on y’all shit shout out to through the wire man keep doing ya thing 💯!!
Y’all should make a video of the top 10 defenders at each position
From this list, I don't think these dudes are aware that defense is part of the game
Billy Ray Kenny actually praises defense more than offense
King Quin25 just because he says it doesn’t mean he does... and he doesn’t
I felt so sad when I first started listening to this podcast and after listening to it I just feel like myself again. Love you guys!
Just by the thumbnail I kno d mills said some wild shit again lmao 😂
E Shin Lmao. He put Ben Simmons at 32 😂😂
It's a gooood day, got a new ttw episode and we got football back
I honestly feel like this top 5 was pretty bad. My top 5 personally would be:
5. Harden
4. Curry
3. Giannis
2. LeBron
1. Kawhi
Without injuries
1:KD
2:King James
3:AD
4:The Claw
5:Greek Freak
6:Chef Curry
7:Harden
8:Luka
9:PG13
10:Dame Dolla
I'm taking Steph over Giannis since Steph has more accomplishments at this point and is better when it comes to Scoring Ball Handling Playmaking
@@lesnakejames505 And Giannis is better in dunking, rebounding, defense and inside the rim. Does it make sense? They play in different positions. Also,Steph is at least 5 years older than Giannis.Come on you don't have to say dumb stuff as reasoning.Just say you don't like Giannis,big men or generally international players.
@@stylinbusiness4718 first of all defense dunking and rebounding as well as playing Inside isn't fair since Giannis is 6,11 also I like dirk luka yao ming among more but because I don't think Giannis is better then steph means I don't like international players big men or Giannis? ?
Giannis, kawhi, lebron, curry
Much love from Gothenburg, Sweden
Thx for posting these top 10 and shit kinda podcasts its tight
38:55 Mikes face was me when he was defending vucevic
My dumba$$ thought they left Klay and KD out .. Then it hit me
Let’s go been waiting for this for a minute
AMAZING LIST!!!
Kenny need to slap the stupid outta Mike. Vucevic over Gobert? Really? Because he was an allstar? I love you Mike but you really just made your credibility go down😂
Lauren Sharp imagine not being able to have a opinion 😂
Lauren Sharp YES TF GOBERT IS OVERRATED AND SUCKS
@@abdullahihassan7344 you just exposed yourself
Abdullahi Hassan wdym overrated?
All-NBA Second Team (2017)
All-NBA Third Team (2019)
2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2018, 2019)
3× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2017-2019)
NBA blocks leader (2017)
Where do you see trash and overrated? He is a great defender and is the defensive anchor on his team
Lauren Sharp lmao u clown he didn’t deserve the first team or any of this DPOYs. He deserved it the year that draymond won and that was it. For him to be in all nba team is a joke he stands around and blocks ppl and isn’t mobile at all
Y’all really think Brandon Ingram is better than Jamal murray😂
Ingram is better than Jamal Murray
Itsyaboi Nick LMAOOOOO
Yes
yeah....
Y’all tripping Jamal Murray is proven
I love the way they talk about Simmons, agree with every point they made, they were spittin fax
Amazing video
No kyle Lowry is so disrespectful
Everyone they named was better
@@aidancontreras4805 No,they didn't, shut yo ass up.
Watching this now and seeing Fox higher than Luka 😂
Love the show! I just think that P's mic is consistently quieter than everyone else's
Watching this back a years later holy lauri or Bi sounds crazy
Find anyone’s list. People put Jrue in top 25 which is where he should be. Him at 39 is disrespectful
AMEN! especially looking at the people right above him. Defense counts too!
He definitely better then Trae
@@peterjo5215 that didn't age well
@@fuckoff1099 jrue won a chip i'd say it aged alright
@@liamnicol9390 career wise I'd agree with you 100% but right now I'd still say Trae is the better player currently. Even tho he lacks defense his offense is just way more suited for the nba today. But overall careers? Yes Jrue 100%
56:31 P said “Imma head out”
Hey guys as an idea: you could all send your top 60 lists so that the numbers for the 50-45 range are more accurate because instead of everybody who isnt top 50 being worth the same, theres some difference in each of the players value.
It’s interesting watching this almost halfway through the season
My boy Pierre wearing my favorite NFL player of all time Sean Taylor
Him wearing that jersey made my day
@Ryan Williams Same
Yeah he posted it on his ig
Lol as a Sixers fan I respect Pierre defending Ben Simmons like that.
This is such a goated series
watching this in 2020 seeing how much the players improved from last year
We gott see Derrick's list, that is one crazy list, Kevin Love at 5 what, Simmons 32. I need this list please
Moses Kuku he meant 45
He meant 5 of power forwards
Nice Podcast 🔥🔥🔥 Could you Show for some seconds picture of the Player that would be nice
super dope!
Best podcast
The pressure for the new Orleans blue Devils is on jalil
Shoutout Kenny for doin the math
I am just liking this video because i wanna support the podcast thats the only reason
Do power rankings next
So your telling me there are 50 players in the league that are better than Buddy Hield 😧😧
Idk if you guys forgot him but Lou will should be a top 50 player.
Trez is a top 50 player too for sure
Nigga he's a good player but why can't he be a STARTER on all teams he's been on. Makes no sense with me.
Hashirama Senju he’s very capable of being a starter, teams like him coming off the bench to give a scoring spark
@@alphonsesenjutsu 20 ppl off the bench.
@@ethanrodi6619 I know all that bro, Lou can score but him BEING A TOP 50 PLAYER RIGHT NOW Y'ALL CAPPIN I'll put Lou in the TOP 100 no disrespect tho. Again I'm not saying he ain't good but I don't think he's top 50.
BEST PODCAST IN SPORTS
i’m mad i hate that i have to watch your show whenever i see it on youtube it takes away from my podcasts 😭😭😭
Is this a new way to self promote
Dropped it early before football starts smart
yall should do it this way every time
Yall should do a highlight video for these top 50's. I do enjoy the explanations and analysis but I would also like to see them putting in this work that they did throughout the season. thoughts?
Kenny way too in love with Rudy
How many people get All-NBA, All-Defensive and DPOY with the highest FG% in the league in the same season?
He deserves it and I love that Kenny also shows his respect even tho it's an unpopular oppinion to say Rudy is as good as he is
coltin Kat deserved that all nba over him
@@danieloshaughnessy302 naaaah, KAT should play the 4, KAT and ADs game are perfect for a modern 4, Gobert is the perfect 5
When did Dennis Smith jr & Seth curry start a podcast
Lmaooo
Who Dennis Smith 😂😂
Captain Shank he play for the knicks
Roman Guerra he talkin bout which one out of da 4 of em is Dennis Smith🤦🏽♂️
Slime A Lot blue shirt
Love that jersey Pierre
Nice vid
So someone tell me, what has James Harden done to be ranked above Stephen Curry!? Steph puts Harden out of the playoffs every year, even without Kd. I need an explanation...and this is not me hating.
Probably because of Harden’s regular season makes him higher up but I feel like it can go either way.
Curry puts him bc he is on a better team. Harden is a better scorer, playmaker, rebounder, and defender. Curry only has him beat on shooting
@@dylanrosenkrantz4474 Harden is not a better playmaker than Steph. He has the ball in his hands way more than Steph, and if Steph had a usage rating like Harden I think his numbers would be better than Harden's cause he is more efficient. But we all have opinions
curry has been on a good team for a while with great players around him while all harden has had so far is a good but not great cp3 and bad chemistry and capela who doesn’t bring much offense to the talbe and he still averages great numbers and is the best scorer of at least the past 2 years and still brings his team to a top 4 seed while as curry hasn’t had as much presure
Sounds like a Pierre and D Mills type thing
Could diss Kenny and his family and he chill say one word about rudy tho 😂😂😂
It would be amazing if we could see the list as you guys reveal the names. Some visual support would go a long way to make this easier to follow.
can we get some visuals on here. Like the number your talking about and a photo fo the player or their name?
19:54 Pierre Hairline.exe has shut down
Curry definitely better than Harden. Curry has his best playoff performance ever last year. And knocked out Harden without KD
Crazy how much can change in a year
lmao ending had me dying
You guys should make top 60 or 70 personal lists so your averages or more precise
Instead of doing 49+46+48+51 (because he didn’t make someone’s list) you can do +55 to make his position more accurate
Harden over Steph is laughable
If you are an idiot, is laughable.
Tbh its pretty close
Its no debate, Steph is a better basketball player than Harden
Louis Hazel steph has the shooting and the rings but winningness isn’t counted in this it’s based purely off skill and impact and harden is more skillful and athletic than steph and that’s just plain facts
@@dillonforsythe9012 harden does nothing better except iso and rebound, and even as a pg, steph is a good rebounder 🤷♂️
This is a debate we we’ve love to be in on fellas I love the real talk y’all have , you guys are one of the reasons I started my own podcast , do you have any advice for new comers like us ?
When are y'all gonna make a remix of him singing "through the wire" and just turn it into a fr intro.
Dray over VO.... idkkkkkkk. As a victor oladipo and pacer fan, I’m very very confident in him having another 20+ppg year and I think he’s gonna get that confidence and swagger back that he had in 2017
P literally just told you. Dont hold onto that year
Captain Shank draymond is the only player in nba history to play how he does. No draymond, and the warriors sitting on 0 championships
Max Violet I’m not, I’m just saying that as someone who follows Vic a lot (bc he’s my favorite player) I think he can get back to that all star form, he even said when he got hurt that the entire 2018-2019 season was already harder bc of some behind the scene stuff. And he got hurt at the beginning of the year
OffBrisk ya but they put Donovan Mitchell over him when vo is a better defender, playmaker, and leader
@@sh4nk7in Donovan is averaging like 24 4 4 are you kidding me? While VO is a great defender its not like Spida is so so bad. He's an average hell even a above average, jazz had like the best defense. And leader? Jazz had like 4 quality leaders in their team. Rubio, Spida, Ingles, and Favors.
I might need to find a different podcast, y’all really just put Harden over Steph Curry
It's faxx!!
Hardens been going nuts these past couple years literally 36-7-7 like what do u mean😂
Donavin Robles the IMPACT of Steph Curry is unrivaled. He is a cheat code for any offense.
Eric Lewis He just needed time to develop his game and get past all his ankle problems
Donavin Robles But Steph destroyed Harden’s Rockets in the wcf while playing with a very thin bench
57:06 How you hold the remote when the batteries dead
12 minutes into the video yall still explaining your process. It was simple. We got it P.
The marksman over Ingram alright
What was that weird cut when they said Cj McCollum?
SPICY P GETTING THAT RESPECT 💪🏾 ( im from toronto aha 😤🏆)
Remember dipo also came off an injury last year before the major calf injury
He was putting up 22.7points, 4.9, assists and 6.9 rebounds before that injury too.
where jamal murray at?
Not on the list wym?
Harden over Steph is CRAZY🤣
Pierre's face when Kenny is talking shit on be n Simmons aggression was priceless lol
AND WE BACK
Trae young is a negative on defense his efficiency was terrible first half of the year jrue was consistent all year averaging 20 ppg and elite defense like huh???
Was CJ McCollum 30th? They kind of skipped over it. Was looking forward to their reasoning for him. 25:55 weird edit just cuts everything
@Eric Lewis never said he should or shouldn't be 30th, but I think that's where they placed him. I'd have him around 24/25 ish
Bro that synergy tho 10:44
Y’all tripping Jrue Holiday A+ defense w B+ offense = A overall player 22 points 8 assist last year
Give me Jrue over Middleton, DeRozan, CJ
Jrue literally shut down Damian lillard for a whole series and gave you 24 points 5 rebounds 6 assist come one some of these player you got over him are on lottery teams , y’all should be on shaqtin a fool for this lmao
10 K they definitely disrespected jrue, but in that series against the blazers, it wasn’t just jrue locking up dame. Dame was getting double and triple teamed
Tittle should be “Top 50 Going into this Season”
Lol is it because KD and Klay not on this list