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St Augustine - City of God | Political Philosophy

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  • @PierroxXxPunks
    @PierroxXxPunks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Hello. I'm a Social Science Instructor at a University here in the Philippines. And I find your video very helpful. Thanks!

    • @alfredhitchcock45
      @alfredhitchcock45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ito ang dapat basahin ng mga Obispong Catolico sa Pinas na mahilig sumawsaw sa pulitika.

    • @mjolninja9358
      @mjolninja9358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Musta

    • @Anti-McDojo
      @Anti-McDojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alfredhitchcock45 , ulaga.
      Hindi intended lang sa kaparian ang City of God ni San Agustin. Hindi rin sinabi ni San Agustin na hindi dapat batikusin ang gobyernong mapang-abuso. Kung ako sayo bago ka nagkomento eh sana inaral mo muna buhay ng Santong ito pati na rin 'yung mentor nya na si San Ambrosio na minsan nang binatikos si Emperador Theodosius dahil sa kalupitan nya sa mga Romanong pagano. 🤡
      Clown. Pustahan Marcos apologist 'to. 🤡

    • @alfredhitchcock45
      @alfredhitchcock45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Anti-McDojo napakahaba ng Church history pero magfocus na lang tayo sa nangyari sa Pinas nung panahon ng Kastila ung abuso ng mga prayle sa panahonh merged pa ang Church and State

    • @Anti-McDojo
      @Anti-McDojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alfredhitchcock45 , tapos kakabig ka nang ganyan hahahahahahahaha. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @RestingJudge
    @RestingJudge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I was 13 when I read the City of God &, apart from the theology in the second half, I've got to give him credit for shaping a lot of my political beliefs since then. I've crossed the entire spectrum in terms of politics, but I'm always skeptical of the utopia that people like to paint be they on the right or left. Augustine's pessimism is, to me, the truest optimism. Recognize the limitations of humanity, but don't completely discredit it, rather just understand that utopia is an idea & one that ultimately we can never truly achieve but nevertheless it is an idea to climb toward.

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You can't really divorce his political philosophy from his theology. He uses God for many of his arguments. In a modern-day atheistic society, this is not allowed, but before the Enlightenment it was completely fine.

    • @vakudibeardefender3953
      @vakudibeardefender3953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You read it when you were 13!!! Wow.

    • @jimcook1747
      @jimcook1747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@aesop1451 Maybe the Enlightenment should be renamed the Endarkenment of philosophy

    • @alfredhitchcock45
      @alfredhitchcock45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Enlightenment was pushed forward by the Illuminati and Freemasonry

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimcook1747 Near the entirety of Locke's first treatise was a theological justification.

  • @revmakes1034
    @revmakes1034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think this is really so well done - and the slightly goofy (I mean that in the very best way) costuming is perfect. THANK YOU! Keep making these....

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    St. Augustine lived in a time of decay. In his younger years he lived an hedonistic life full of sin which he later repented for and in his later years he saw the Empire he grew up and work for be sacked by Barbarians who killed, raped and turn millions into slavery. You can't be jolly and positive about the human nature with the kind of life he had.

  • @christianusacross5084
    @christianusacross5084 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More Christians should be thinkers ✝️

  • @tomasekenberg2314
    @tomasekenberg2314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    ”Political rule can never achieve human excellence or true justice. It’s only possible to sustain a kind of limited peace. It’s essentially a kind of holding operation against the forces of disorder. Politics is more about damage control than about achieving collective redemption or happiness in this world.”
    That would be an excellent summary also of Plato’s Republic...

    • @negativedawahilarious
      @negativedawahilarious 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agustine borrowed the idea of Platonic City in the republic ?

  • @stuartthomas94
    @stuartthomas94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    just found your channel and have been binging. thank you for these well edited and scripted lectures!

  • @abdulaibaba4281
    @abdulaibaba4281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    please make a video on Cicero's political thought . thank you

  • @gringoquenocomecuy
    @gringoquenocomecuy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great summation - very informative - thanks!

  • @alexkfridges
    @alexkfridges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series is fantastic! Concise, well articulated, accurate, awesome!

  • @Kkkk-hl3db
    @Kkkk-hl3db ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello! I love your videos as a political science major. I know this is an old video, but I would like to suggest adding captions. I am not an English speaker, and I find it difficult to understand some words. I think the English captions can really help. Thank you so much.

  • @micu1544
    @micu1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Did u just turn into a monk for a second there?

  • @douglasdustin6550
    @douglasdustin6550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel deserves more subscribers!

  • @pradeeppeiris5129
    @pradeeppeiris5129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all these videos. They are very useful and I recommended my students to watch them. Please consider making video on Cicero as well. Keep it up your good work.

  • @cbidnothernnetwork2044
    @cbidnothernnetwork2044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the good presentation. I will definitely use some of your points to prepare a lesson for my student teachers on St Augustine's religious idealism.

  • @learning7979
    @learning7979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to inquire if the "History of Political Thought" playlist is based on the book "A History Of Political Theory " By George Holland Sabine.
    Because the chronology of the content of the playlist shows a resemblance to the content of the book
    1)The city-state
    2)Political thought before Plato
    1st Video Athenian Democracy | Political Philosophy
    3)Plato, The Republic
    4)Plato, The statements and the laws
    2nd Video Plato - The Republic | Political Philosophy
    5) Aristotle's Political Ideals
    6) Aristotle's political Actualities
    3rd video Aristotle - Politics | Political Philosophy
    And much more.
    I am really thankful and if you have a playlist that covers this book then feel free to suggest it to me

  • @DrDanLawrence
    @DrDanLawrence 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, yeah. Augustine as an influence on Hobbes seems supported through multiple lenses. Also a great reminder why Plato's perspectives on rhetoric still matter--rhetoric can be wielded for any purpose, like technology. Precisely why ethics is needed in rhetoric.

  • @mr3razer
    @mr3razer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this summary , I am picking up this book soon and excited to read it

  • @richlopez5896
    @richlopez5896 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    St. Augustine of Hippo
    “We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is catholic and which is called catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard” (The True Religion 7:12 [A.D. 390]).
    “We believe in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church; for heretics and schismatics call their own congregations churches. But heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God, and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor” (Faith and Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]).
    “If you should find someone who does not yet believe in the gospel, what would you [Mani] answer him when he says, ‘I do not believe’? Indeed, I would not believe in the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so” (ibid., 5:6).
    “There are many other things which most properly can keep me in her [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15-17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 4:5 [A.D. 397]).

  • @mahinfaisal8404
    @mahinfaisal8404 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very comprehensive. thanks!

  • @oms7963
    @oms7963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again Nick Foles

  • @TheBrowniemusic
    @TheBrowniemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, mate

  • @juliannevillecorrea
    @juliannevillecorrea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you very much !

  • @pedrozaragoza2253
    @pedrozaragoza2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gloria in Excelsis Deo! 🙏

  • @willchurch2813
    @willchurch2813 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the Strauss reader, “The scope of civil society is drastically limited in comparison with what is assigned to it by classical political philosophy. At best, civil society can by its repressive action maintain relative peace among men and in this fashion ensure the minimal conditions under which the church is able to exercise its teaching and saving ministry. Of itself it is incapable of leading to virtue.”

  • @kathleankeesler1639
    @kathleankeesler1639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Father Seraphim Rose is my mentor. Saint John the Wonder Worker of of Shanghai and San Francisco is my courage.

  • @Riversong2024
    @Riversong2024 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, this is a wonderful video. Can you tell me the name of the painting at 17:50?

  • @noiz5578
    @noiz5578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video!

  • @clivecastor6074
    @clivecastor6074 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Very comprehensive.

  • @muskan4719
    @muskan4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are the both cities intermixed and overlapping??

  • @infinitespiral6758
    @infinitespiral6758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Watching this instead of doing my readings ayyy

  • @user-ed8ww4is7t
    @user-ed8ww4is7t 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well explained!!!

  • @HansDunkelberg1
    @HansDunkelberg1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The speaker looks quite fanatic!

  • @nakkejanda8732
    @nakkejanda8732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what teaching of Plato does Agustin find acceptable and unacceptable? why?

    • @BogeyCDogRosey
      @BogeyCDogRosey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was more concerned with the Neo-Platonists. He rejected that matter and a lesser creator had made the physical world. He believed that thinking the world was fallen and it’s purpose was to be escaped was untenable.

  • @aisforamerica2185
    @aisforamerica2185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Augustine witnesses the fall of Christian Rome,
    Today,
    We witness the slow sagging and rotting away of the Christian West

  • @MrSA1829
    @MrSA1829 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video

  • @abrahamdeboer5668
    @abrahamdeboer5668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very helpful video!

  • @euclidofalexandria3786
    @euclidofalexandria3786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes that is correct, mere reason alone does not suffice, because the people will become kneiving, and nasty, due to greed
    or anger or some other sense of ingnorance.

  • @WoundedEgo
    @WoundedEgo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Augustine's term "City of God" his alias for the scriptural term "Kingdom of God", his alias for "the ἐκκλησία" or is he creating a different metaphor more specific to the Roman context?

    • @WoundedEgo
      @WoundedEgo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found a relevant lecture by Ms. Fredrickson on TH-cam which I've cued up past the intro: th-cam.com/video/tOfIi3NBOoQ/w-d-xo.html
      I skipped the 10 minute introductory remarks and watched about 20 minutes of the lecture. It appears to me that Augustine’s “City of God” is decidedly extrabiblical and postbiblical political theory about what makes for the best marriage of the secular and religious, the sword and the sacraments, etc. with little connection to Paul’s Body/Bride of Christ and the kingdom of God of the gospels, etc. Did I understand her/Augustine correctly? This was politics first, religion second?

    • @chriscase6341
      @chriscase6341 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing the 2nd century Christians were doing was in harmony with the teachings of the Bible or the Christ. They were philosophers that know very little about Christianity and a lot about politics. They made the church a government office when they realized there was more money in religion than politics. 🙏 praise Jehovah for giving us a king to follow. Jesus doesn't just tell us how, he showed us how. What a Leader!

  • @crocopie
    @crocopie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He popularized the idea of eternal torment in hell.

  • @86razrose
    @86razrose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The usual religious cop out, anything that goes wrong is mans fault. You have "free will" but you had better not ever use it.

  • @nimratk
    @nimratk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Upload more videos

  • @catchy_tune
    @catchy_tune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video leaves out the fact that while Christianised Rome fell, it fell to Christianised Goths, who practised Arianism. Indeed, today many people are looking toward non-Trinitiarian beliefs as a strong version of Biblical religion !

    • @lobstered_blue-lobster
      @lobstered_blue-lobster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they also believed in the death and resurrection of Christ right? So it's not really a stronger version of the Christian religion...

  • @2tehnik
    @2tehnik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:19 I'm not sure I understand this point, or how it's any different in apocalyptic judaism that grounds early Christianity.
    Mainly, why would dualism make salvation less important? Because salvation is still important in manicheanism

    • @chriscase6341
      @chriscase6341 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's very interesting! Do U believe that the 2nd century Christians were in harmony with the ideas of the Bible? Seems like they were more about philosophy and politics than the teachings of the Christ

    • @2tehnik
      @2tehnik ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriscase6341 I don’t think those are mutually exclusive. They endorsed both.

  • @yvonnegonzales2973
    @yvonnegonzales2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus vs Augustine, church & state conflictions

  • @kathryncollins8708
    @kathryncollins8708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was St Augustine Catholic?

    • @nickchavez720
      @nickchavez720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes he is one of the most important thinkers of Catholicism.

  • @kamalkishoregupta4314
    @kamalkishoregupta4314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sain augustins actual name come from sant August muni.from india in vedas intro.details.what is chirischianity ,krishan+nity. Nity means a path who teach a spacific rule by some one like God krishan.

  • @inthedesert2008
    @inthedesert2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great...only a select few go to heaven despite original sin....strange world view

    • @alfredhitchcock45
      @alfredhitchcock45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is not strange at all! Only a few were saved in Sodom and Gomorrah

    • @nomore9004
      @nomore9004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine having such a positive view on human nature to think that many but not a select few will be saved and go to heaven.

  • @ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ
    @ඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞඞ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some sus human trying to make me fail history class

  • @michelhaineault6654
    @michelhaineault6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Platonist mmmm human philosophy mixed with the word of God = Roman catholic religion

    • @michelhaineault6654
      @michelhaineault6654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Super Mario yea, the criminal minds of the roman Catholic inquisition. Assassins in the name of God grrrrrr and a bunch of pedophiles.

  • @chriscase6341
    @chriscase6341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing this guy taught was in harmony of the teachings of the Bible or the Christ. Doctrines? Really? Nothing U did in the past or currently doing should hinder you from being able to learn about the One true living God JEHOVAH & our King Jesus. Make Ur spirit Holy by learning from the Bible.