The problem I have with the wpn is that it looks like a worse tenet arca plasmor, and t plasmor is not that much harder to get, but that still doesn't make it the worse, just kinda pointless
Yes that's honestly true, you can get tenet plasmor around the mid stage of the game lmao, which is probably the time you'd get arca plasmor (mr10) or earlier, but since steflos is mr8, it might be useful for early content.
I love the Steflos, I run it with Citrine since it's her signature and is really good at hitting her Crystallise rocks. Critical Deceleration + Semi-Shotgun cannonade (cancels out the "deceleration" bit), I run blast since it's awesome at room clearing.
One of the reasons people don't like seeing buffs in these videos is because of comparability. It's really hard to compare the performance of one weapon over another if there are buffs in play. Some weapons reacts to buffs differently than others, some buffs provide random variables, sometimes people even use different ability str in the buffs... etc. Many people watch weapon videos like this one to find out how a given weapon compares to another. It's just really hard to do that when buffs are introduced. That's all. Also.. Steflos feels funny to shoot.
This is rhino brainrot giving the gun the single strongest damage buff in the game will make it good yes it will make almost any gun good much lile putting any gun with blast on saryn will immediately make it A-S tier but that dosent make the gun itself not hot ass
That's false. Roar isn't the single strongest buff in the game on everything, it vastly depends on what you use, but not in this particular case (one of the strongest but not THE strongest). Your point makes sense, but the problem is: I don't find the gun unusable, and as I said, I have played worse guns, and I don't see the hate. For a Mastery Rank 8, That's pretty decent. And I have said in the last part of the video: yes weapons (steflos) can kill, it's not hard nowadays, but if you wish to kill faster, won't you want a gun buff? Because even the majority of the good/best guns in my eyes still need that push, if a Roar only buff can make it kill pretty well, then I don't think you really need much buffs to get begin with. High base damage, base heat, a pretty good average per second for a semi. You can even consider arcane avenger only and the weapon will just do its job. Call me high standards but that's how I play the game, but calling this "rhino brainrot" is a step too far.
Hi. Just wanted to say I’m stopping by because u saw you under the comments of a moug video. And I will be sticking sround supporting and binge watching because I am fascinated with anyone that has such an affinity for their character. To the point where they do the deepest dives, stress tests and show their creativity of their favorite character. I am not a rhino player but have been thinking about it. So I’ll go through everything I can to see. Also I read in a comment somewhere you created a 50 page rhino guide or document ? Where can I find this just in case I start rhino and would like to load up on information
I feel like you're fundamentally misunderstanding. Its not that its 'cheating' so much as it is that you're showing off the gun buffs' power more than that of the gun. A half decent weapon buff setup can make anything work. Put these buffs on a better gun, get better results. You know. Like a plasmor.
"Guys look how strong this gun is: The gun + Saryn, Xata/Roar, 5 different arcane buffs, secondary primer, companion buffs/primer, armor stripping, -insert some obscure damage glitch here- " I personally don't mind showing off weapons with gun buffers, it pains me when they don't disclose what/why they're using; not mentioning names for obvious reasons, but you know who they are; Is why i play/test my own stuff for the type of content i do, Steflos is fun i just wish it had a bit better stats.
Your point makes total sense if I was comparing weapons between weapons only, which requires no buffs. As you can see, I'm not doing it here. That's not even the point of the video... What I want to say is that Steflos isn't as bad as many would like to claim, gunbuffs only can help that much, and your gun has to be decent enough for this to work. Also, there's a very crucial point that you missed in the video: "Gunbuffs existed for a reason". Because without gunbuffs, there's little point outside of "I like this weapon" when using other weapons when the strongest of the strongest, aka the infamous torid existed. Gunbuffs' existence is to push the majority of the weapons past the point of deleting enemies in a few frames or in one click, and this gives them a chance to compete in clearing speed and DPS potential. Without any buffs, torid is just the default best choice for almost everything, no arguments needed at all; and one of the most crucial value of playing Warframe -- experimentation and finding setups are long lost and redundant.
Any gun that needs this much help is bad in my eyes, cause there are plenty of guns that you can just equip and breeze through all the content without worrying about anything else, no need for piercing roar no need for rhino, those are the good guns. Bad guns can still be super fun and super satisfying to use, doesn't make them good, just makes them fun. Steflos is a fun gun, but it isn't good by any stretch of the imagination. Also saying alternox isn't even that bad kind of invalidates all your opinions, I think you've been spoiled by Rhino. Like you say alternox can kill? The Stug can kill, what the F is your point? This is one of those videos where the content creator tries to be contrarian for the sake of being the smartest man in the room tbh, not a fan.
This much help? What???? At the first showcase, just Roar and sometimes Piercing Roar since I don't even cast this ability very often to make use of the 25% flat crit and it is not even necessary, just an augment that I like to use with Rhino no matter what, and just the mods and arcane inside the weapon. You call this "this much help"? Is the standard nowadays THIS LOW? Is clicking a button this difficult to do in Warframe and this can be replicated (albeit noticeably weaker) via subsuming roar to your frame? And your excuse of "I don't need to worry about anything else" makes this even worse, if clicking a button per half a minute is this problematic for you already, I don't even know what to say. This is just beyond saving. My guy, should I repeat myself? "Yes weapons can kill, but if you want to make them kill faster, won't you want a better damage output (aka using gunbuffs in this case)?" All Steflos needs, like alternox is just a singular gunbuff, like it's not even difficult, Is clicking an additional button per half a minute aka subsumed Roar an impossible task now? And you ask what the F is my point. To sum up your whole comment, maybe I should quote myself in the video: "Did the community have their brain rotten this much that gunbuffs aren't a thing?" I don't try to be a contrarian, that's not even my consideration, this is just a quick video getting my point across and by looking at what you have typed, you simply just proved my point in the video. I don't try to be the smartest guy in the room. I'm not smart, there's many better and more insane players than me, and this video only wants to get the point across. Saying me trying to be the smartest guy in the room is just your assumption, best to keep that inside your mind. I even had a disclaimer in front of the video, and I said "your discretion is advised" because I know people may not like ranting and opinionated videos. But still, you watched it, and you came to comment and accuse me of "This is one of those videos where the content creator tries to be the contrarian for the SAKE of being the smartest guy in the room tbh". Just what is your problem.
@@amolistic_ "all it needs is just one gun buff" You gave it the strongest damage buff in the entire game and it did mediocre dawg what are we cooking
@@inarosthedad3565 Not to mention they used a gas build which double dips on Roar. Without roar it would be doing a fraction of the damage it was doing in the showcase
I really want to like this weapon, but my one gripe is that the projectile can only hit the same target once, which makes it useless for my mag bubble shenanigans. Otherwise though, this weapon is completely serviceable, but it doesn’t really fill the niche that the tenet arca plasmor has sadly.
My IGN is the same name as my channel tho. Maybe just copy this "Amolistic." I guess... It's literally estimated to be over 40mins, no shot I can drop tomorrow all of a sudden lol...
That's half true, you can hit enemies to extend its lifetime and travel distance. Also, Problem is: melees at base are around 1.2-3m. Steflos without a projectile speed mod is 8m - 16m. I don't get the "it share range with melees" thing you said here.
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Imma poof again after this little rant session + build video about Steflos lol, see y'all in the next week I guess...
The Stug is a underrated weapon, i killed 20 lvl 220 gokstad officers in 5 seconds, without mods. I just used my dante with roar.
The problem I have with the wpn is that it looks like a worse tenet arca plasmor, and t plasmor is not that much harder to get, but that still doesn't make it the worse, just kinda pointless
Yes that's honestly true, you can get tenet plasmor around the mid stage of the game lmao, which is probably the time you'd get arca plasmor (mr10) or earlier, but since steflos is mr8, it might be useful for early content.
I love the Steflos, I run it with Citrine since it's her signature and is really good at hitting her Crystallise rocks. Critical Deceleration + Semi-Shotgun cannonade (cancels out the "deceleration" bit), I run blast since it's awesome at room clearing.
One of the reasons people don't like seeing buffs in these videos is because of comparability.
It's really hard to compare the performance of one weapon over another if there are buffs in play. Some weapons reacts to buffs differently than others, some buffs provide random variables, sometimes people even use different ability str in the buffs... etc. Many people watch weapon videos like this one to find out how a given weapon compares to another. It's just really hard to do that when buffs are introduced. That's all.
Also.. Steflos feels funny to shoot.
This is rhino brainrot giving the gun the single strongest damage buff in the game will make it good yes it will make almost any gun good much lile putting any gun with blast on saryn will immediately make it A-S tier but that dosent make the gun itself not hot ass
That's false. Roar isn't the single strongest buff in the game on everything, it vastly depends on what you use, but not in this particular case (one of the strongest but not THE strongest).
Your point makes sense, but the problem is: I don't find the gun unusable, and as I said, I have played worse guns, and I don't see the hate. For a Mastery Rank 8, That's pretty decent.
And I have said in the last part of the video: yes weapons (steflos) can kill, it's not hard nowadays, but if you wish to kill faster, won't you want a gun buff?
Because even the majority of the good/best guns in my eyes still need that push, if a Roar only buff can make it kill pretty well, then I don't think you really need much buffs to get begin with. High base damage, base heat, a pretty good average per second for a semi. You can even consider arcane avenger only and the weapon will just do its job.
Call me high standards but that's how I play the game, but calling this "rhino brainrot" is a step too far.
All im gunna say is don’t use this gun it’s a worse version of tenet plasmor
Hi. Just wanted to say I’m stopping by because u saw you under the comments of a moug video. And I will be sticking sround supporting and binge watching because I am fascinated with anyone that has such an affinity for their character. To the point where they do the deepest dives, stress tests and show their creativity of their favorite character. I am not a rhino player but have been thinking about it. So I’ll go through everything I can to see. Also I read in a comment somewhere you created a 50 page rhino guide or document ? Where can I find this just in case I start rhino and would like to load up on information
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I feel like you're fundamentally misunderstanding. Its not that its 'cheating' so much as it is that you're showing off the gun buffs' power more than that of the gun. A half decent weapon buff setup can make anything work. Put these buffs on a better gun, get better results. You know. Like a plasmor.
The gun buff power is part of the gun, the plasmor doesn't have it, if the plasmor where to have it it wouldn't be a plasmor it would be a steflos
"Guys look how strong this gun is: The gun + Saryn, Xata/Roar, 5 different arcane buffs, secondary primer, companion buffs/primer, armor stripping, -insert some obscure damage glitch here- "
I personally don't mind showing off weapons with gun buffers, it pains me when they don't disclose what/why they're using; not mentioning names for obvious reasons, but you know who they are;
Is why i play/test my own stuff for the type of content i do, Steflos is fun i just wish it had a bit better stats.
Your point makes total sense if I was comparing weapons between weapons only, which requires no buffs. As you can see, I'm not doing it here. That's not even the point of the video...
What I want to say is that Steflos isn't as bad as many would like to claim, gunbuffs only can help that much, and your gun has to be decent enough for this to work.
Also, there's a very crucial point that you missed in the video:
"Gunbuffs existed for a reason".
Because without gunbuffs, there's little point outside of "I like this weapon" when using other weapons when the strongest of the strongest, aka the infamous torid existed.
Gunbuffs' existence is to push the majority of the weapons past the point of deleting enemies in a few frames or in one click, and this gives them a chance to compete in clearing speed and DPS potential.
Without any buffs, torid is just the default best choice for almost everything, no arguments needed at all; and one of the most crucial value of playing Warframe -- experimentation and finding setups are long lost and redundant.
@@amolistic_ This last part is sad but true, queue the "why use X when Y exists" or" My *insert weapon name* can do this without all this setup"
great vid but how are you able to continue the upload frequency with ns dude
Any gun that needs this much help is bad in my eyes, cause there are plenty of guns that you can just equip and breeze through all the content without worrying about anything else, no need for piercing roar no need for rhino, those are the good guns.
Bad guns can still be super fun and super satisfying to use, doesn't make them good, just makes them fun.
Steflos is a fun gun, but it isn't good by any stretch of the imagination. Also saying alternox isn't even that bad kind of invalidates all your opinions, I think you've been spoiled by Rhino. Like you say alternox can kill? The Stug can kill, what the F is your point? This is one of those videos where the content creator tries to be contrarian for the sake of being the smartest man in the room tbh, not a fan.
This much help? What???? At the first showcase, just Roar and sometimes Piercing Roar since I don't even cast this ability very often to make use of the 25% flat crit and it is not even necessary, just an augment that I like to use with Rhino no matter what, and just the mods and arcane inside the weapon.
You call this "this much help"? Is the standard nowadays THIS LOW? Is clicking a button this difficult to do in Warframe and this can be replicated (albeit noticeably weaker) via subsuming roar to your frame? And your excuse of "I don't need to worry about anything else" makes this even worse, if clicking a button per half a minute is this problematic for you already, I don't even know what to say. This is just beyond saving.
My guy, should I repeat myself?
"Yes weapons can kill, but if you want to make them kill faster, won't you want a better damage output (aka using gunbuffs in this case)?"
All Steflos needs, like alternox is just a singular gunbuff, like it's not even difficult, Is clicking an additional button per half a minute aka subsumed Roar an impossible task now?
And you ask what the F is my point.
To sum up your whole comment, maybe I should quote myself in the video: "Did the community have their brain rotten this much that gunbuffs aren't a thing?"
I don't try to be a contrarian, that's not even my consideration, this is just a quick video getting my point across and by looking at what you have typed, you simply just proved my point in the video.
I don't try to be the smartest guy in the room. I'm not smart, there's many better and more insane players than me, and this video only wants to get the point across. Saying me trying to be the smartest guy in the room is just your assumption, best to keep that inside your mind.
I even had a disclaimer in front of the video, and I said "your discretion is advised" because I know people may not like ranting and opinionated videos. But still, you watched it, and you came to comment and accuse me of "This is one of those videos where the content creator tries to be the contrarian for the SAKE of being the smartest guy in the room tbh".
Just what is your problem.
@@amolistic_ "all it needs is just one gun buff" You gave it the strongest damage buff in the entire game and it did mediocre dawg what are we cooking
@@inarosthedad3565 Not to mention they used a gas build which double dips on Roar. Without roar it would be doing a fraction of the damage it was doing in the showcase
Im lost, how you shot with the steflos so far ? Or i have allways a bug with that weapon 😂
Just got a Riven for it! Hopefully I can put it with good use with my Citrine :]
I’m personally not that big of a fan of this thing, love the feel but wish the status chance was higher. But hey good to see it getting some love.
I agree, it could have more base status chance.
I really want to like this weapon, but my one gripe is that the projectile can only hit the same target once, which makes it useless for my mag bubble shenanigans.
Otherwise though, this weapon is completely serviceable, but it doesn’t really fill the niche that the tenet arca plasmor has sadly.
It also has a low cap on it's bubble size. That's my other thing about it
Yea that's kinda sad to know tbh
This gun is so funny on Gauss
i never heard complains about the stelfos
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@@amolistic_ no?
„project is 35% done“ drops the video the next day*
(I can‘t seem to find you ingame with same ign?)
My IGN is the same name as my channel tho.
Maybe just copy this "Amolistic." I guess...
It's literally estimated to be over 40mins, no shot I can drop tomorrow all of a sudden lol...
@@amolistic_oh I messed it up with an underscore instead of the point. Lol.
The problem with steflos is the range to damage multiplication. It share range with melees while dealing one tenth the damage of one.
That's half true, you can hit enemies to extend its lifetime and travel distance.
Also, Problem is: melees at base are around 1.2-3m. Steflos without a projectile speed mod is 8m - 16m. I don't get the "it share range with melees" thing you said here.
How about Afentis? ☝️
Haven't tried that weapon but perhaps I should
Alt fire buff goes hard tho if u like secondaries, Pyrana
worst weapon? they know stug exist, right?
Stug can actually kill SP demolists tho 😔 (me coping rn, kuva stug/stug incarnon when)
haha gun go fart