Beautiful guitar-- hope you are able to get it sorted out. I bought a KM7 when they first came out and the low B had a terrible ringing to it. Honestly sounded like fret buzz but it absolutely was not coming into contact with any frets (would also go away if I tuned up OR down a bit-- as if it was something resonating at that specific pitch). Sent it back to Sweetwater and they returned it with the same issue. To Sweetwater's credit though, they agreed to reimburse me to have a local tech do the work. He ended up doing a bit of filing on the nut and the saddle and it's been my main since. Good luck!
Just another data point -- I have the AM-6 and it doesn't have this issue, and it was almost perfect for me out of the box. I preferred slightly lower action and a little tweak of the truss rod and lowered saddles and it is playing like butter -- no fret buzzing or extraneous sounds whatsoever. This is an amazing guitar!
i appreciate you letting me know that! I’ve had a few people send me videos of theirs with the same issue, and i’ve had a few people tell me theirs are perfect! Love to hear that!!!
@@Plant_Based_Riffs I hope Schecter will resolve the issue with your guitar. And please report back what the issue was as it does seem to be a mystery!
I was seriously expecting this video to be "the very odd problem is that I CAN'T PUT IT DOWN IT'S SO GOOOOOOD" 😂 Sucks man, that's an ice picky frequency. Hope they fix it for you
hahahahaha. Oh man. I was really hoping so. It feels really good, just sounds like trash (currently). I really want to love this guitar and overlook this issue. But it’s bumming me out.
That noise is from the saddle area. That little gap of string before it goes through the body. Putting a little foam before you string it up gets rid of it. Used to have that problem on a keith merrow too.
good thought. already tried it. didn’t help. :) BUT i have an updated review video for this guitar where i detail all the things schecter themselves attempted to do to fix it. Quite educational
Please read if you’re having the same issue!!! I almost traded / sold my Schecter SLS Elite C-1 for the exact same issue. I bought it second hand and was out of time to return. I tried all of the same trouble shooting as he did. Weirdly enough, filing down the nut for that string fixed it. I understand the graph tech nut was replaced, but it definitely sounds like they had a bad batch of graph tech nuts. My guitar has the Ernie ball compensated nut. I tried multiple string sets of different sizes and gauges, and the nut always appeared to hold the string comfortably with no issue, but filing it down so it could fit in a little lower made the issue completely disappear. My tech said this is commonly overlooked and a fairly common problem with nuts now a days. I can’t be completely certain it was his issue but definitely try that if you’re in the same boat! It sounds like this is the only thing that wasn’t tried and it is what fixed my issue 🤞
my full length video review details everything that I tried with my tech, and everything that Schecter themselves tried to fix the issue. They completely replaced the nut even.
This is so spooky! I just picked up a £2,400 guitar, different brand but EXACTLY the same issue as you are having. Have checked everything’s tight, put foam in the springs, checked clearance at the first fret, neck relief blah blah. Still there. Can’t wait to hear what Schecter say.
you probably have a single fret a little too high and it’s probably somewhere around the 17-24th fret, sometimes guitar companies don’t press down a fret all the way to the bottom and the middle section is a little too high, that would explain why you’re only getting the D string, because it’s in the middle of the fretboard. You’re obviously damping the springs and the nut so it’s gotta be a single fret sticking out.
Good thought, but I was told by the dealer that they level the frets by hand once they hit the states, and even after my tech worked the 19th fret (which was actually high for sure) the problem was still there.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs did you read what donjuandellanooch5191 wrote "Try the pickup selector switch!!! Call me nuts, but I had this exact issue on a Jackson Misha Mansoor Juggernaut HT6 Pro Series in Matte Blue Frost. It was absolutely maddening, and every local shop/tech thought I didn't know what I was talking about, and that it was just from using high gain. Turns out, when I applied certain directional pressures on the pickup selector switch, it went away. Plus, it changed the actual tone itself, as if the signal hadbeen coming through wrong from the start. Like, all mids were missing, and had the most ear piercing highs and overtones, until I'd mess around with that stupid switch.. Almost as if the contacts of the inner components were wonky or something. So, I had a $30 switch put in to replace, and bam, it went away for good! All that time I thought it was my frets, pickups, overdrive, amp, etc. It drove me mad trying to solve it, and turned out to be one of the cheapest, yet most important parts that I learned, is what fixed the months-long tone torture lol. Good luck!"
I've had this happen before on a fixed bridge guitar, and I think it was from random machining errors regarding the tolerances of bridge components. I replaced my nut and bridge at the same time, so I only narrowed it down that far. But it was gone
Hi, generally this specific problem (open D string ringing) happens on guitars with a two point tremolo (like a fender or a floyd rose) in a floating setup. As far as i can see this specific guitar has a recessed cavity, so I guess your bridge is floating. Try to block the bridge using some wood on the bridge block (dive only setup, with the springs tight) and see if the problem is related. In a floating setup, with a light and resonant bridge, microvibrations on the bridge itself can produce strange resonances, especially on open strings
@@Plant_Based_Riffs Sorry to hear that! so considering that you have already muted the strings on the headstock and you have a totally different bridge (no springs etc..) on the seven string variant, the other cause can be faulty pickups or, if you can hear the problem unplugged, the trussrod not firmly inserted inside the neck (east manufacturers using exotic woods generally). In this scenario it can vibrate and catch particular resonances. Good luck for your guitars!!
Yea you can definitely hear that loud and clear. My guess as a few others have pointed out is that you are getting a harmonic from a raised fret somewhere along that string. Should be something that can be fixed though.
@@timjenkins502 I checked that as well, thank you for the suggestion tho. There is plenty of clearance between the D string and the frets on both the AM6 and AM7.
Interesting. Hit me up on instagram @plant_based_riffs and send a little video clip of it to me. I'm very curious to hear the comparison. You should absolutely reach out to Schecter at tech@schecterguitars.com and cite this video, telling them you have the issue.
Great video! Thanks for the information! The guitar is really beautiful! I'm interested in purchasing one. Dude, were you able to do anything to solve the problem? Originally it comes with 0.10 strings right? I had plans to put 0.9 strings and adjust the neck.
yeah comes stock with 10s. I have another video up on my channel with my official review where I discuss the various fixes. I should probably pin the video in a comment. Will do that now.
Try the pickup selector switch!!! Call me nuts, but I had this exact issue on a Jackson Misha Mansoor Juggernaut HT6 Pro Series in Matte Blue Frost. It was absolutely maddening, and every local shop/tech thought I didn't know what I was talking about, and that it was just from using high gain. Turns out, when I applied certain directional pressures on the pickup selector switch, it went away. Plus, it changed the actual tone itself, as if the signal hadbeen coming through wrong from the start. Like, all mids were missing, and had the most ear piercing highs and overtones, until I'd mess around with that stupid switch.. Almost as if the contacts of the inner components were wonky or something. So, I had a $30 switch put in to replace, and bam, it went away for good! All that time I thought it was my frets, pickups, overdrive, amp, etc. It drove me mad trying to solve it, and turned out to be one of the cheapest, yet most important parts that I learned, is what fixed the months-long tone torture lol. Good luck!
I'm on Discord with a bunch of buddies, we're watching this video for the 4th time. We all just checked all our guitars and they all do this to a degree x_x (Fenders, Kiesels, Strandberg, Steinberger, Gibson, etc) . Some more, some less... but yeah, if it makes you feel any better. Intriguing discovery :)
Hey, David. I appreciate this note. I’m going to send you the video of what my AM7 sounds like on instagram. I wonder if what you hear from that is perfectly normal to your ears. I’d like to add that Aaron himself messaged me himself to apologize about the issues. I am very glad that he too can hear that it’s not a normal quality for a guitar to have. He called it “very strange” and “very very rare.” And I agree with him completely. I do understand that guitars have extra ringing and imperfections occasionally - that’s why they sound the way they do, right? :) Some of it is quite charming. I’m afraid that I am not charmed by these particular quirks on these instruments. :\
Nah man, your issue is pretty excessive for sure. We just realized that for some reason, D string on all our guitars has a bit of an overtone 3 oct higher, something none of us ever noticed/payed attention to tbh. None of ours were as drastic tho, but I’m sure Schecter will take care of it 👏 That AM6 looks beautiful btw!
@@DavidMaximMicic The AM6 and AM7 are sleek and beautiful machines. They play really great. Excited to get this taken care of so I can go make music with them. 😍
None of my fenders, kiesels or Gibsons do this! The only guitar i have that does this is my cheap PRS cus 24 knock off, same string same sound thats why it does not get played ever.
Were there any factors like bridge material or neck design or neck angle that stood out. My only guitar that doesn't do it has an angle neck with a gotoh tuneomatic bridge, but the bridge is a replacement. It could just be random as well
I've gotten this problem sometimes when the bridge saddles are in a certain distance from each other, and they're just barely touching when the guitar resonates. Try to make sure the saddles are definitely touching each other, just hitting the top or bottom saddle slightly from the side with a hard rubber hammer or with a standard hammer with a piece of cloth in between. The other thing it can be, is that the string is ringing from the distance of the string insert to the saddle. This can be helped by simply changing the strings or just loosening them up, pull them out a bit and then wind it up again. Guitars are strange beeings and I've seen it all ❤️💯🌹
Good suggestion, but that’s not it. Schecter replaced the saddles with graphtech saddles and then replaced the whole bridge and the issue persisted. I have an updated video over this guitar and all the attempted fixes.
I don't have THAT problem with that guitar but: While the guitar is GREAT when it comes to look, the neck profile and feel and, most importantly the sound, on mine, the factory setup was horrible. I noticed quickly that the setup would require more elaborate work. Brought it to my favorite luthier, and he pointed out the problems: Neck horribly adjusted (bow), nut slots not filed deeply enough, and there is a design problem with the bridge: The strings run over the edges of the hole in the base at an angle, and so the wound strings run into friction there, which causes tuning instabilities. This would be very very hard to fix. So its another 100-150 bucks for my luthier to correct the setup. Quote: "The string action is pretty much unplayable" (that's what it felt like). It's such a good sounding and pretty guitar, but omg... the setup...
I wonder if it has something to do with having such an ultra resonate one piece wenge neck . The D string hum rings out like a bell . It seems like harmonically it's not transferring its tone where it should be . Possibly the truss rod is contacting the neck in a certain way that's causing a buzz on the d string .
Could be. I didn't adjust the saddle block ANGLE at all, tho I did try applying pressure to the length of string between the saddle and the bridge plate, and it seemed to help by about 2% or so lmao. Not enough to make a significant difference.
First have you tried another string? Could also be the saddle or if the nut slot is too low it could ringing off the fret. I have noticed some ringing overtones with Stainless frets myself.
I have had two brand new sets of strings on it, both before a tech looked and after a tech looked. All the same result. I am confident that it is not touching a fret whilst ringing, but will check again out of an abundance of caution.
Check that both saddle adjustment screws are contacting the bridge baseplate and are level. I have a tele that’s very prone to this if everything isn’t in equal and solid contact.
I hope they do as well. I have sent this exact video to the dealer I bought it from, and they sent it to Schecter technicians I have been told. Waiting to hear back. Not a fret issue because it only happens on an open D, and there is plenty of clearance for the open D string.
Any update on your am6/am7? I actually had some weird ringing on my am6. Took it to my tech, suggested silent trem springs- problem solved! My tech reckoned they were the wrong trem springs fitted for the guitar. Also interestingly, the bridge wasn’t fitted correctly either when I got it! Very happy with it now though.
I have a classic 2002 mint Schecter Blackhawk that I love to play but it has the exact same problem that I can't seem to get rid of. It's very frustrating. So I don't play it as much as I would like .
I have one, and I have no issues like this. The guitar is beautiful and immaculate in quality. I have heard of a couple of others complaining about this. I don't think this is at all widespread, but it sounds like an issue with the Gotoh bridge.
Hmm. Schecter completely replaced the gotoh bridge on my AM6, no change. My AM7 that had the same issue has a hipshot bridge, so… why does it have the same issue? I have two other guitars with gotoh bridge, and they are flawless. I’m prepared to completely rule out the bridge.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs Yeah...you may be right. It is really puzzling. It has to be something that is in contact with the string, right? If you follow the string contact path - trem block, saddle, nut, tuning machines - it has to be one of those things. If it were something like the bridge studs in the body or some kind of weird wood imperfection in the body or the neck, you think you would hear it on other strings or in other playing situations. It is a bizarre thing. The only time I have come across something like this was a loose saddle in the trem, but if they replaced the whole trem what are the odds you got two bad ones? Too bad - I get that is unplayable and you had to send it back. It is a great guitar and I really enjoy mine.
It sounds like it could be related with the pickups, like if squeals for not being poted or being to close to some electronical, but maybe you have a noise gate and that why it goes away after you play
I also hear it acoustically, not plugged in. I also hear it whenever I move the pickup with my fretting-hand in all directions. It doesn’t change anything.
nope. Radio silence from schecter. I shipped it (and my AM7) back to schecter 2 weeks ago, and they arrived 1 week ago. We had a holiday, of course. I’m expecting to hear something soon hopefully. But there are many great comments and suggestions on this video, so if you have any problems, one of the comments can probably help out!
It’s all good! Guitars are just pieces of wood sometimes. I’ll have a full review video for it soon. But this just kinda came up with this guitar and I’m curious what people’s solution would be instead of me just returning it.
easy to fix bro, this is a spring problem from your bridge. Put a small cloth around the springs and all should be fine. Had the same problem on like every strat
Haha I have foam in between the springs dude, I show it in the video. 😂The springs are completely silent. I do have an update video to this tho, my most recent upload. It details every attempted fix.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs oooooooooooooh i watched this video first :D this weekend i will receive the same guitar, do you have a discord server or something like that?
This video was just sent to me.... your tech was prolly lowering the d string saddle and didn't notice that it pinched between the 3rd and 5th. One of the saddle screws is most likely making good contact and the other is hovering.. lower it to the plate and the vibration should stop
@@Plant_Based_Riffs even still the string saddle could be pinched slightly up off of the bridge plate creating a vibration tone... confirm all saddle screws are touching the plate and none are slightly off.
I have done set ups with guitars with that type of truss rod adjustment at the bottom of the neck and I have come across ones that have been stripped out before and will not adjust for under or over bow. The wheel will just keep turning.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs certainly makes adjustments more convenient. I think the problem most of the time is people try to adjust things themselves before bringing it to someone who knows what they’re doing unfortunately. Great looking guitar.
@@Russell..ShredNeckGuitarTech Yes. Aesthetically the guitar is very nice. Feels balanced on the lap. The pickups are good, I think. I’m not sure exactly how I feel about them until I get the overtime fixed tho, as I am too distracted by it.
Have you tried loosening the string (or taking it off) and tightening the tuner(s)? I know it's not likely the issue, but it doesn't cost anything to try, and takes a couple minutes.
Thats a good thought. Tho my AM7 has the exact same issue on the exact same string. The odds that the tuner is the issue for both guitars are pretty low I think. Schecter has them both and they will investigate.
Any update on this? I'm seeing a few more reports of this (or something similar) happening on these. I have an AM6 and it does it a little but it doesn't seem as noticeable as yours. I'd like to get it sorted eventually if possible. Although as @David Maxim Micic said it may be happening on a lot of guitars to a lesser extent.
I will be posting a follow up video soon fully explaining everything, but I’m waiting on a reply to some questions. I agree that overtones do happen on all guitars in a way that is normal, musical, charming, and acceptable. So I just asked schecter “do you find the overtones created on the D string of these guitars to be normal, musical, charming, and acceptable before and/or after you guys worked on them?” no response yet. They did work on my AM6 and my AM7 that had the same issue.
Check the nut maybe it’s in there to tight and deadening out the string prematurely. A lot of these high production guitars have crap nut setups and filed out properly.
The nut was thoroughly checked by my tech, and worked on in the area he felt it could be improved. The problem persisted. I have the same problem with my AM7 as well.
I’ll make a video on the comparison for sure! Overall, if you can get a good one, it’s a decently fast guitar with nice appointments. It has a gummy pickup selector and pretty stiff pots, just like any cheap metal/shreddy guitar, but the gotoh 510 is great, the neck setup pretty well for the actual playing side of things. It’s just the weird overtone I couldn’t look past.
Wow this is really interesting. I think I saw a vid stating you’ve returned it And I bet it was a lot simpler to just send it back But forgive the stupid question but did you try new strings? It’s sounds like there was some sympathetic vibration
Not a stupid question at all - yes. New strings were part of the setup. Problem was there before and after. Returning it was definitely the simple part of the process. Glad I experienced the guitars tho, as I waited for them to come out for ages.
@@henryortiz1175 Another good question. I asked Schecter point blank: “do all of these models do this? if not, I would like to exchange it for a pair that do not do this.” and they never answered the question, nor mentioned any sort of exchange option. So…. Turned off by the experience for now. Schecter’s president did say that when they got a new shipment in, he would go through them to find one significantly different and let me know if he found one. I said “yes please!!!!” Radio silence.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs wow I’m so intrigued by this issue. Reason being is that I bought a Fender player series bass. I’m not sure if you’ve heard of this but every once in a while, due to the wood in the neck the frequency of the C note on the G string ONLY, would die out Quickly and the way my local Sam ash guy rectify the situation, was to get a clamp and clamp the head stock, which intern prevented the wood from vibrating I guess. I don’t know, I still don’t get it. I’m not a sound guy and I knew nothing about frequencies but dammit if it didn’t work. Lol. But with your schecter, it sounded sort of metallic, but I saw that you muted out the springs so I guess the only other thought I have is there is a fret touching somewhere. I’m sorry I’m rambling on and on but I am just so puzzled by this anyway thanks for the response. Appreciate your videos.
@@henryortiz1175 That’s a good way to fix it. I had the frets checked for being level by my tech, and he did have to work fret 19 a little bit. But that wasn’t causing the issue. Very odd!
Good suggestion. I did not take out the pickup springs, but I did push on and hold each pickup in different directions while playing, and that did not help. Schecter has both guitars now, so I'm going to trust their expert team to work their magic :]
Schecter's QC in my opinion has gone down the shitter compared to how they were 10 years ago. I have owned more than 10 Schecters in my life. Recently I got a KM-7 MKIII Artist and it had both a faulty voicing switch / bad pot and also the nut slot itself needed shimmed. Straight away. On a $1900 guitar that is inexcusable. Now I'm seeing your AM6 is having issues straight away. Such a bummer. -_-
If you watch the video, I demonstrate how my springs are completely silenced by foam in between them. There’s no need to fill the entire back cavity with foam on any guitar.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs don’t get me wrong… the guitar is still really really good. If you find a way to fix it, let us know! I still love my Nick Johnston sig.
We’re just letting the fine folks at schecter work their magic and we’ll see what the result is. They are paying attention to this video and are concerned with making it right. I’ll be posting a follow up video and hopefully I’ll be able to articulate what they did to fix it and everyone may benefit from this whole interaction. :)
@@eric_casper5150 thank you for the suggestion, but that’s not it. Either that or both me and my tech missed it on one guitar, and the other guitar had the exact same loose screw 🤷🏼♂️
thats deffinetely some metal having contact with the string. Either you have ahigh fret, or theres a weird friction in the bridge. I hope you find a solution my dude!
The frets were leveled by hand by schecter once the guitars hit the states. Or so my dealer claims. They were checked again by my tech, who did find a high fret at 19.
I had the same issue with a km 7 when I changed the bridge pickup. Turns out the bridge pickup was ringing out and a little foam under the pickup in the pick up cavity fixed it. Hope that helps
Damn this is so annoying.. I was hoping they would be priced lower tbh but this seems like the type of issue you shouldn’t get at all at this price range..
@@Plant_Based_Riffs yep, I am waiting for a bit until I get some more confidence on these models or I will rather get a DK24 HH model, hoping they also come up with some new colors next year
@@Plant_Based_Riffs damn that’s so unfortunate, next step would be the bridge and nut I guess but I saw you’ve sent it off already, hope they find the issue
Oh, this one is easy. It's the section of string suspended in the tremolo block, between ball end and saddle. Take the string out, duct tape just above the ball end, and voila. It'll be gone.
Good thought. I applied pressure on the length of string between the saddle and the trem block with a thin screwdriver, and there was little to no change. Schecter has emailed me that “There’s nothing we can find as of yet that is a culprit. This may be one of those overtones that cannot be avoided” so we’ll see how it turns out.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs that can easily just be the fact that sound feom either end of the string transfers incredibly well to the other side. Are you absolutely certain you managed to push on the string itself in there, and there was absolutely zero difference? Could it be the nut slot, like the string is catching on something juuuuust right?
@@MFKitten Yep I'm certain. The manager of the Schecter USA Custom shop is apparently trouble shooting these guitars himself, so we'll see what he finds.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs that's interesting in the bad way... It could be a pinch point or something somewhere, or it could be resonant hardware of some kind, but that's kind of a rare and odd thing. Just keep pushing on things, like the saddles and stuff, pushing on the string in the nut slot, etc.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs hope you get it sorted man. If it’s any consolation, I had an AZ prestige with their fret treatment etc, and my tech found 6 high frets. He even shimmed the neck pocket. So even relatively premium guitars need some finesse out the factory.
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Here is an update on what happened with this guitar: th-cam.com/video/zzopMJiBk9c/w-d-xo.html
Beautiful guitar-- hope you are able to get it sorted out. I bought a KM7 when they first came out and the low B had a terrible ringing to it. Honestly sounded like fret buzz but it absolutely was not coming into contact with any frets (would also go away if I tuned up OR down a bit-- as if it was something resonating at that specific pitch). Sent it back to Sweetwater and they returned it with the same issue. To Sweetwater's credit though, they agreed to reimburse me to have a local tech do the work. He ended up doing a bit of filing on the nut and the saddle and it's been my main since. Good luck!
Import or usa km7?
@@freda9498 Korean import
Just another data point -- I have the AM-6 and it doesn't have this issue, and it was almost perfect for me out of the box. I preferred slightly lower action and a little tweak of the truss rod and lowered saddles and it is playing like butter -- no fret buzzing or extraneous sounds whatsoever. This is an amazing guitar!
i appreciate you letting me know that! I’ve had a few people send me videos of theirs with the same issue, and i’ve had a few people tell me theirs are perfect! Love to hear that!!!
@@Plant_Based_Riffs I hope Schecter will resolve the issue with your guitar. And please report back what the issue was as it does seem to be a mystery!
@@josephkung9143 They took care of me, but couldn’t fix it. My follow up video is almost finished being edited, I hope to upload tomorrow night!
I was seriously expecting this video to be "the very odd problem is that I CAN'T PUT IT DOWN IT'S SO GOOOOOOD" 😂
Sucks man, that's an ice picky frequency. Hope they fix it for you
hahahahaha. Oh man. I was really hoping so. It feels really good, just sounds like trash (currently). I really want to love this guitar and overlook this issue. But it’s bumming me out.
That noise is from the saddle area. That little gap of string before it goes through the body. Putting a little foam before you string it up gets rid of it. Used to have that problem on a keith merrow too.
good thought. already tried it. didn’t help. :) BUT i have an updated review video for this guitar where i detail all the things schecter themselves attempted to do to fix it. Quite educational
Please read if you’re having the same issue!!! I almost traded / sold my Schecter SLS Elite C-1 for the exact same issue. I bought it second hand and was out of time to return. I tried all of the same trouble shooting as he did. Weirdly enough, filing down the nut for that string fixed it. I understand the graph tech nut was replaced, but it definitely sounds like they had a bad batch of graph tech nuts. My guitar has the Ernie ball compensated nut. I tried multiple string sets of different sizes and gauges, and the nut always appeared to hold the string comfortably with no issue, but filing it down so it could fit in a little lower made the issue completely disappear. My tech said this is commonly overlooked and a fairly common problem with nuts now a days. I can’t be completely certain it was his issue but definitely try that if you’re in the same boat! It sounds like this is the only thing that wasn’t tried and it is what fixed my issue 🤞
my full length video review details everything that I tried with my tech, and everything that Schecter themselves tried to fix the issue. They completely replaced the nut even.
This is so spooky! I just picked up a £2,400 guitar, different brand but EXACTLY the same issue as you are having.
Have checked everything’s tight, put foam in the springs, checked clearance at the first fret, neck relief blah blah. Still there. Can’t wait to hear what Schecter say.
I have received word from Schecter, and will be posting a follow up video depending on how everything plays out.
I'm guessing something with the bridge since you have the nut and springs muted and fretwork is ok.
@@kmatax9237 It’s happening on my AM7 too, different bridge, different saddles. 🤷🏼♂️
you probably have a single fret a little too high and it’s probably somewhere around the 17-24th fret, sometimes guitar companies don’t press down a fret all the way to the bottom and the middle section is a little too high, that would explain why you’re only getting the D string, because it’s in the middle of the fretboard. You’re obviously damping the springs and the nut so it’s gotta be a single fret sticking out.
Good thought, but I was told by the dealer that they level the frets by hand once they hit the states, and even after my tech worked the 19th fret (which was actually high for sure) the problem was still there.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs did you read what donjuandellanooch5191 wrote "Try the pickup selector switch!!!
Call me nuts, but I had this exact issue on a Jackson Misha Mansoor Juggernaut HT6 Pro Series in Matte Blue Frost. It was absolutely maddening, and every local shop/tech thought I didn't know what I was talking about, and that it was just from using high gain.
Turns out, when I applied certain directional pressures on the pickup selector switch, it went away. Plus, it changed the actual tone itself, as if the signal hadbeen coming through wrong from the start. Like, all mids were missing, and had the most ear piercing highs and overtones, until I'd mess around with that stupid switch.. Almost as if the contacts of the inner components were wonky or something. So, I had a $30 switch put in to replace, and bam, it went away for good!
All that time I thought it was my frets, pickups, overdrive, amp, etc. It drove me mad trying to solve it, and turned out to be one of the cheapest, yet most important parts that I learned, is what fixed the months-long tone torture lol.
Good luck!"
I've had this happen before on a fixed bridge guitar, and I think it was from random machining errors regarding the tolerances of bridge components. I replaced my nut and bridge at the same time, so I only narrowed it down that far. But it was gone
Hi, generally this specific problem (open D string ringing) happens on guitars with a two point tremolo (like a fender or a floyd rose) in a floating setup. As far as i can see this specific guitar has a recessed cavity, so I guess your bridge is floating. Try to block the bridge using some wood on the bridge block (dive only setup, with the springs tight) and see if the problem is related. In a floating setup, with a light and resonant bridge, microvibrations on the bridge itself can produce strange resonances, especially on open strings
I appreciate the thought! I have the same issue on my Schecter AM7 purchased at the same time, which has a hard tail hipshot bridge.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs Sorry to hear that! so considering that you have already muted the strings on the headstock and you have a totally different bridge (no springs etc..) on the seven string variant, the other cause can be faulty pickups or, if you can hear the problem unplugged, the trussrod not firmly inserted inside the neck (east manufacturers using exotic woods generally). In this scenario it can vibrate and catch particular resonances. Good luck for your guitars!!
Yea you can definitely hear that loud and clear. My guess as a few others have pointed out is that you are getting a harmonic from a raised fret somewhere along that string. Should be something that can be fixed though.
Very possible, it might even be that the nut slot is cut too deep and the string is hitting the first fret.
@@timjenkins502 I checked that as well, thank you for the suggestion tho. There is plenty of clearance between the D string and the frets on both the AM6 and AM7.
Having this same exact issue with my AM-6 as well. Both D and high E strings
Interesting. Hit me up on instagram @plant_based_riffs and send a little video clip of it to me. I'm very curious to hear the comparison. You should absolutely reach out to Schecter at tech@schecterguitars.com and cite this video, telling them you have the issue.
Dang ,got mine on the way..
Please be sure to update us on the fix.
will do. I’ll have a follow up video.
Great video! Thanks for the information! The guitar is really beautiful! I'm interested in purchasing one. Dude, were you able to do anything to solve the problem? Originally it comes with 0.10 strings right? I had plans to put 0.9 strings and adjust the neck.
yeah comes stock with 10s. I have another video up on my channel with my official review where I discuss the various fixes. I should probably pin the video in a comment. Will do that now.
Try the pickup selector switch!!!
Call me nuts, but I had this exact issue on a Jackson Misha Mansoor Juggernaut HT6 Pro Series in Matte Blue Frost. It was absolutely maddening, and every local shop/tech thought I didn't know what I was talking about, and that it was just from using high gain.
Turns out, when I applied certain directional pressures on the pickup selector switch, it went away. Plus, it changed the actual tone itself, as if the signal hadbeen coming through wrong from the start. Like, all mids were missing, and had the most ear piercing highs and overtones, until I'd mess around with that stupid switch.. Almost as if the contacts of the inner components were wonky or something. So, I had a $30 switch put in to replace, and bam, it went away for good!
All that time I thought it was my frets, pickups, overdrive, amp, etc. It drove me mad trying to solve it, and turned out to be one of the cheapest, yet most important parts that I learned, is what fixed the months-long tone torture lol.
Good luck!
Solution- play all open D notes on the 5th fret of the A string
haha if only that would be possible lol
I'm suspecting that it's the nut. Maybe cut improperly or cut too low.
I'm on Discord with a bunch of buddies, we're watching this video for the 4th time. We all just checked all our guitars and they all do this to a degree x_x (Fenders, Kiesels, Strandberg, Steinberger, Gibson, etc) . Some more, some less... but yeah, if it makes you feel any better. Intriguing discovery :)
Hey, David. I appreciate this note. I’m going to send you the video of what my AM7 sounds like on instagram. I wonder if what you hear from that is perfectly normal to your ears. I’d like to add that Aaron himself messaged me himself to apologize about the issues. I am very glad that he too can hear that it’s not a normal quality for a guitar to have. He called it “very strange” and “very very rare.” And I agree with him completely. I do understand that guitars have extra ringing and imperfections occasionally - that’s why they sound the way they do, right? :) Some of it is quite charming. I’m
afraid that I am not charmed by these particular quirks on these instruments. :\
Nah man, your issue is pretty excessive for sure. We just realized that for some reason, D string on all our guitars has a bit of an overtone 3 oct higher, something none of us ever noticed/payed attention to tbh. None of ours were as drastic tho, but I’m sure Schecter will take care of it 👏
That AM6 looks beautiful btw!
@@DavidMaximMicic The AM6 and AM7 are sleek and beautiful machines. They play really great. Excited to get this taken care of so I can go make music with them. 😍
None of my fenders, kiesels or Gibsons do this! The only guitar i have that does this is my cheap PRS cus 24 knock off, same string same sound thats why it does not get played ever.
Were there any factors like bridge material or neck design or neck angle that stood out. My only guitar that doesn't do it has an angle neck with a gotoh tuneomatic bridge, but the bridge is a replacement. It could just be random as well
I've gotten this problem sometimes when the bridge saddles are in a certain distance from each other, and they're just barely touching when the guitar resonates. Try to make sure the saddles are definitely touching each other, just hitting the top or bottom saddle slightly from the side with a hard rubber hammer or with a standard hammer with a piece of cloth in between.
The other thing it can be, is that the string is ringing from the distance of the string insert to the saddle. This can be helped by simply changing the strings or just loosening them up, pull them out a bit and then wind it up again.
Guitars are strange beeings and I've seen it all ❤️💯🌹
Good suggestion, but that’s not it. Schecter replaced the saddles with graphtech saddles and then replaced the whole bridge and the issue persisted. I have an updated video over this guitar and all the attempted fixes.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs This is sooo weird 😮
I don't have THAT problem with that guitar but: While the guitar is GREAT when it comes to look, the neck profile and feel and, most importantly the sound, on mine, the factory setup was horrible. I noticed quickly that the setup would require more elaborate work. Brought it to my favorite luthier, and he pointed out the problems: Neck horribly adjusted (bow), nut slots not filed deeply enough, and there is a design problem with the bridge: The strings run over the edges of the hole in the base at an angle, and so the wound strings run into friction there, which causes tuning instabilities. This would be very very hard to fix.
So its another 100-150 bucks for my luthier to correct the setup. Quote: "The string action is pretty much unplayable" (that's what it felt like). It's such a good sounding and pretty guitar, but omg... the setup...
yep. I had the same setup issues. I’m glad you didn’t have the clank tho!! :)
I just got mine yesterday and it works fine, must be the setup
This problem was apparent upon unboxing, and persisted even after having it set up by my tech, who does immaculate work on every guitar I own.
I wonder if it has something to do with having such an ultra resonate one piece wenge neck . The D string hum rings out like a bell . It seems like harmonically it's not transferring its tone where it should be . Possibly the truss rod is contacting the neck in a certain way that's causing a buzz on the d string .
That would make me bonkers!!!
My best guess would be the saddle to block angle. Gotoh should have something called fst block. Try that
Could be. I didn't adjust the saddle block ANGLE at all, tho I did try applying pressure to the length of string between the saddle and the bridge plate, and it seemed to help by about 2% or so lmao. Not enough to make a significant difference.
First have you tried another string? Could also be the saddle or if the nut slot is too low it could ringing off the fret. I have noticed some ringing overtones with Stainless frets myself.
I have had two brand new sets of strings on it, both before a tech looked and after a tech looked. All the same result. I am confident that it is not touching a fret whilst ringing, but will check again out of an abundance of caution.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs hope you get it sorted out.
Check that both saddle adjustment screws are contacting the bridge baseplate and are level. I have a tele that’s very prone to this if everything isn’t in equal and solid contact.
Sucks that you got a lemon. I hope Schecter works this out for you! Do you think this is because of a fret issue?
I hope they do as well. I have sent this exact video to the dealer I bought it from, and they sent it to Schecter technicians I have been told. Waiting to hear back. Not a fret issue because it only happens on an open D, and there is plenty of clearance for the open D string.
@@Plant_Based_Riffsu ever heard back from schecter?
@@freda9498 Yep! Made a whole video about their reply. It's on my channel.
Any update on your am6/am7? I actually had some weird ringing on my am6. Took it to my tech, suggested silent trem springs- problem solved! My tech reckoned they were the wrong trem springs fitted for the guitar. Also interestingly, the bridge wasn’t fitted correctly either when I got it! Very happy with it now though.
Update incoming! I’ll be filming the official review and update tomorrow, look for the upload sometime next week :)
I have a classic 2002 mint Schecter Blackhawk that I love to play but it has the exact same problem that I can't seem to get rid of. It's very frustrating. So I don't play it as much as I would like .
I have one, and I have no issues like this. The guitar is beautiful and immaculate in quality. I have heard of a couple of others complaining about this. I don't think this is at all widespread, but it sounds like an issue with the Gotoh bridge.
Hmm. Schecter completely replaced the gotoh bridge on my AM6, no change. My AM7 that had the same issue has a hipshot bridge, so… why does it have the same issue? I have two other guitars with gotoh bridge, and they are flawless. I’m prepared to completely rule out the bridge.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs Yeah...you may be right. It is really puzzling. It has to be something that is in contact with the string, right? If you follow the string contact path - trem block, saddle, nut, tuning machines - it has to be one of those things. If it were something like the bridge studs in the body or some kind of weird wood imperfection in the body or the neck, you think you would hear it on other strings or in other playing situations. It is a bizarre thing. The only time I have come across something like this was a loose saddle in the trem, but if they replaced the whole trem what are the odds you got two bad ones? Too bad - I get that is unplayable and you had to send it back. It is a great guitar and I really enjoy mine.
It sounds like it could be related with the pickups, like if squeals for not being poted or being to close to some electronical, but maybe you have a noise gate and that why it goes away after you play
I also hear it acoustically, not plugged in. I also hear it whenever I move the pickup with my fretting-hand in all directions. It doesn’t change anything.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs It has a trem bridge right? try wrap the block arround with electrical tape, could be that what is buzzing
@@Johnmannish AM7 has the same issue, same string, hardtail bridge.
Haven't solved the problem? I'm getting my AM-6 next week!!
nope. Radio silence from schecter. I shipped it (and my AM7) back to schecter 2 weeks ago, and they arrived 1 week ago. We had a holiday, of course. I’m expecting to hear something soon hopefully. But there are many great comments and suggestions on this video, so if you have any problems, one of the comments can probably help out!
I was actually stoked to see you play this! Sucks :/
It’s all good! Guitars are just pieces of wood sometimes. I’ll have a full review video for it soon. But this just kinda came up with this guitar and I’m curious what people’s solution would be instead of me just returning it.
easy to fix bro, this is a spring problem from your bridge. Put a small cloth around the springs and all should be fine. Had the same problem on like every strat
Haha I have foam in between the springs dude, I show it in the video. 😂The springs are completely silent. I do have an update video to this tho, my most recent upload. It details every attempted fix.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs oooooooooooooh i watched this video first :D this weekend i will receive the same guitar, do you have a discord server or something like that?
@@braunibald my instagram is kind of like my discord server haha. 🤷🏼♂️ @plant_based_riffs
This video was just sent to me.... your tech was prolly lowering the d string saddle and didn't notice that it pinched between the 3rd and 5th. One of the saddle screws is most likely making good contact and the other is hovering.. lower it to the plate and the vibration should stop
This problem existed straight out of the box, problem persisted after my tech made all of his adjustments.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs even still the string saddle could be pinched slightly up off of the bridge plate creating a vibration tone... confirm all saddle screws are touching the plate and none are slightly off.
Check your tuner on that string man. Probably a sympathetic vibration there.
I appreciate the suggestion, Schecter has both guitars now, so I'm going to trust their expert team to work their magic :]
I watched your other updated video - could it be the truss rod vibrating inside the neck??
I have done set ups with guitars with that type of truss rod adjustment at the bottom of the neck and I have come across ones that have been stripped out before and will not adjust for under or over bow. The wheel will just keep turning.
I have had good luck with this truss rod style.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs certainly makes adjustments more convenient. I think the problem most of the time is people try to adjust things themselves before bringing it to someone who knows what they’re doing unfortunately. Great looking guitar.
@@Russell..ShredNeckGuitarTech Yes. Aesthetically the guitar is very nice. Feels balanced on the lap. The pickups are good, I think. I’m not sure exactly how I feel about them until I get the overtime fixed tho, as I am too distracted by it.
Have you tried loosening the string (or taking it off) and tightening the tuner(s)?
I know it's not likely the issue, but it doesn't cost anything to try, and takes a couple minutes.
Thats a good thought. Tho my AM7 has the exact same issue on the exact same string. The odds that the tuner is the issue for both guitars are pretty low I think. Schecter has them both and they will investigate.
Looks like it is saddle resonating. One of 2 screws barely touching metal plate and ringing.
Thanks for the suggestion. Many have also suggested that to me, and it’s not the case.
I can't believe how noticeable that is, damn. I hope it's just a saddle issue rather than a design issue
Schecter has both guitars now, so I'm going to trust their expert team to work their magic :]
Did you ever find a fix?
Nope! :)
Any update on this? I'm seeing a few more reports of this (or something similar) happening on these. I have an AM6 and it does it a little but it doesn't seem as noticeable as yours. I'd like to get it sorted eventually if possible. Although as @David Maxim Micic said it may be happening on a lot of guitars to a lesser extent.
I will be posting a follow up video soon fully explaining everything, but I’m waiting on a reply to some questions. I agree that overtones do happen on all guitars in a way that is normal, musical, charming, and acceptable. So I just asked schecter “do you find the overtones created on the D string of these guitars to be normal, musical, charming, and acceptable before and/or after you guys worked on them?” no response yet. They did work on my AM6 and my AM7 that had the same issue.
they haven’t claimed to have fixed the problem, they have only stated that they attempted to reduce the overtone as much as possible.
Check the nut maybe it’s in there to tight and deadening out the string prematurely. A lot of these high production guitars have crap nut setups and filed out properly.
The nut was thoroughly checked by my tech, and worked on in the area he felt it could be improved. The problem persisted. I have the same problem with my AM7 as well.
Bummer. Hopefully Schecter is able to solve it for you, and hopefully it’s not something on the rest of these released.
I hope so too.
Hi Jared , are you still in love with your Mayones Aquila Elite S ? no issues there eh ?
Still love it! Changed the pickups to the bareknuckle Polymath set. Adore those pickups. It’s a solid guitar all around.
I have the same problem with my demon 7.
Maybe an issue with that particular saddle? Idk. Could be bad groove on saddle
saddle groove was inspected thoroughly by my tech. He even worked the first string saddle just a little bit, but the D string was perfect to his eye.
ah that's a bummer and it's really noticeable. besides the overtone how does it compare to the aquila?
I’ll make a video on the comparison for sure! Overall, if you can get a good one, it’s a decently fast guitar with nice appointments. It has a gummy pickup selector and pretty stiff pots, just like any cheap metal/shreddy guitar, but the gotoh 510 is great, the neck setup pretty well for the actual playing side of things. It’s just the weird overtone I couldn’t look past.
Wow this is really interesting. I think I saw a vid stating you’ve returned it And I bet it was a lot simpler to just send it back But forgive the stupid question but did you try new strings? It’s sounds like there was some sympathetic vibration
Not a stupid question at all - yes. New strings were part of the setup. Problem was there before and after. Returning it was definitely the simple part of the process. Glad I experienced the guitars tho, as I waited for them to come out for ages.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs so did u end up getting another off the same or were you turned off by the experience?
@@henryortiz1175 Another good question. I asked Schecter point blank: “do all of these models do this? if not, I would like to exchange it for a pair that do not do this.” and they never answered the question, nor mentioned any sort of exchange option. So…. Turned off by the experience for now. Schecter’s president did say that when they got a new shipment in, he would go through them to find one significantly different and let me know if he found one. I said “yes please!!!!” Radio silence.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs wow I’m so intrigued by this issue. Reason being is that I bought a Fender player series bass. I’m not sure if you’ve heard of this but every once in a while, due to the wood in the neck the frequency of the C note on the G string ONLY, would die out Quickly and the way my local Sam ash guy rectify the situation, was to get a clamp and clamp the head stock, which intern prevented the wood from vibrating I guess. I don’t know, I still don’t get it. I’m not a sound guy and I knew nothing about frequencies but dammit if it didn’t work. Lol. But with your schecter, it sounded sort of metallic, but I saw that you muted out the springs so I guess the only other thought I have is there is a fret touching somewhere. I’m sorry I’m rambling on and on but I am just so puzzled by this anyway thanks for the response. Appreciate your videos.
@@henryortiz1175 That’s a good way to fix it. I had the frets checked for being level by my tech, and he did have to work fret 19 a little bit. But that wasn’t causing the issue. Very odd!
That's probably one of the pickups spring not being properly sitted. Have you tried replacing them?
Good suggestion. I did not take out the pickup springs, but I did push on and hold each pickup in different directions while playing, and that did not help. Schecter has both guitars now, so I'm going to trust their expert team to work their magic :]
That's an annoying problem, but sounds good otherwise! Curious what amp you're playing through?
This is amp 2 of archetype Plini from Neural DSP through the GGD Gold Stack Greenback “Rich” IR. :)
Carbon fiber rods arent securerd and are vibrating?
they didn't say as such, but it could be a possibility I suppose.
Did you ever reach out to schecter about this?
sure did! here’s what happened. th-cam.com/video/zzopMJiBk9c/w-d-xo.html
Yep. Can't stand that, either.
Schecter's QC in my opinion has gone down the shitter compared to how they were 10 years ago. I have owned more than 10 Schecters in my life. Recently I got a KM-7 MKIII Artist and it had both a faulty voicing switch / bad pot and also the nut slot itself needed shimmed. Straight away. On a $1900 guitar that is inexcusable. Now I'm seeing your AM6 is having issues straight away. Such a bummer. -_-
Try filling the back cavity with foam or something, I had the same issue and i believe it was the springs in the back resonating with the open D
If you watch the video, I demonstrate how my springs are completely silenced by foam in between them. There’s no need to fill the entire back cavity with foam on any guitar.
u right
Obvious thought but did you try changing the strings? They could have got a bad batch of strings that they used set up these models with
Good suggestion. Yes, switched strings and brands when it got the setup
I get that in the Nick Johnston sig too
that’s too bad. I have two students who bought the nick johnston sig on my recommendation, and they are both great. 🥲
My nick Johnston has the same issue with the open d string. I've had it a few years and it did not have it when I first got it.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs don’t get me wrong… the guitar is still really really good. If you find a way to fix it, let us know! I still love my Nick Johnston sig.
@@sloankettering0424 I absolutely will be posting a follow up video as soon as I get my AM6 and AM7 back.
I have the same issue, any thoughts on what the fix might be yet?
My D string has plenty of clearance currently. Maybe it is a saddle issue?
We’re just letting the fine folks at schecter work their magic and we’ll see what the result is. They are paying attention to this video and are concerned with making it right. I’ll be posting a follow up video and hopefully I’ll be able to articulate what they did to fix it and everyone may benefit from this whole interaction. :)
Did you try putting a piece of foam under the tremolo claw?
Not under the trem claw, no. But the same exact issue is apparent on my AM7 I got at the same time, and it doesn’t have a trem.
Possibly the bridge saddle adjustment screw isn’t making full contact and just resonating.
@@eric_casper5150 thank you for the suggestion, but that’s not it. Either that or both me and my tech missed it on one guitar, and the other guitar had the exact same loose screw 🤷🏼♂️
Have you solved the problem now?
nope. schecter has reached out and sent me a shipping label. I’ll post a follow up video once the problem is rectified.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs Is it a problem for both the stock guitar of this model or not, or is it just some guitars?
thats deffinetely some metal having contact with the string. Either you have ahigh fret, or theres a weird friction in the bridge.
I hope you find a solution my dude!
The frets were leveled by hand by schecter once the guitars hit the states. Or so my dealer claims. They were checked again by my tech, who did find a high fret at 19.
I had the same issue with a km 7 when I changed the bridge pickup. Turns out the bridge pickup was ringing out and a little foam under the pickup in the pick up cavity fixed it. Hope that helps
@@MrSteventle Great thought. I wonder if Schecter will do that. They’ve had the guitar for a week now, and I haven’t heard anything yet.
Damn this is so annoying.. I was hoping they would be priced lower tbh but this seems like the type of issue you shouldn’t get at all at this price range..
@@Plant_Based_Riffs yep, I am waiting for a bit until I get some more confidence on these models or I will rather get a DK24 HH model, hoping they also come up with some new colors next year
You need a fret level, one of of your higher frets is sitting too high
My tech actually did work fret 19 a little because it was too high, but the problem persisted
@@Plant_Based_Riffs damn that’s so unfortunate, next step would be the bridge and nut I guess but I saw you’ve sent it off already, hope they find the issue
Oh, this one is easy. It's the section of string suspended in the tremolo block, between ball end and saddle. Take the string out, duct tape just above the ball end, and voila. It'll be gone.
Good thought. I applied pressure on the length of string between the saddle and the trem block with a thin screwdriver, and there was little to no change. Schecter has emailed me that “There’s nothing we can find as of yet that is a culprit. This may be one of those overtones that cannot be avoided” so we’ll see how it turns out.
also, I hear the overtone the most closer to the nut than the bridge.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs that can easily just be the fact that sound feom either end of the string transfers incredibly well to the other side. Are you absolutely certain you managed to push on the string itself in there, and there was absolutely zero difference?
Could it be the nut slot, like the string is catching on something juuuuust right?
@@MFKitten Yep I'm certain. The manager of the Schecter USA Custom shop is apparently trouble shooting these guitars himself, so we'll see what he finds.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs that's interesting in the bad way... It could be a pinch point or something somewhere, or it could be resonant hardware of some kind, but that's kind of a rare and odd thing. Just keep pushing on things, like the saddles and stuff, pushing on the string in the nut slot, etc.
A guitar tech worth his salt should be able to resolve that for sure.
@@Plant_Based_Riffs hope you get it sorted man. If it’s any consolation, I had an AZ prestige with their fret treatment etc, and my tech found 6 high frets. He even shimmed the neck pocket. So even relatively premium guitars need some finesse out the factory.