Indeed, Winni, this is generally the most challenging technique for most beginners in the grappling basics curriculum. Keep at it and follow the method, you'll get there! - Patrick
Been training for about a year, and this is one of the only movements I haven't been able to learn. (Back Rolls are still ugly but getting better,) however Shoulder/Granby Rolls have eluded me. Watching your video revealed why, and what I can do to improve it (flexibility) thank you tons!
This is an excellent tutorial thank you, I’m practising this at home to return to the mats to effortlessly perform this technique to the amazement of every other white belt in my gym, for something that looks so remarkably simple it’s amazing how difficult it actually is for beginners
My pleasure, ZHLodhi! We try to make martial arts techniques accessible to anyone willing to invest the time in learning and practicing! Thanks for watching and commenting! - Patrick
Lol... good luck! Another thing that I didn’t mention in this video, is hamstring flexibility will help you a lot to execute this without putting too much stress on your neck. Check out this full-body stretching routine for ideas: th-cam.com/video/avpLW897fm4/w-d-xo.html Enjoy, and practice well! - Patrick
Haha... thanks! A big part of it is having adequate flexibility. Check out my follow-along stretching routine for that: How to Stretch th-cam.com/video/avpLW897fm4/w-d-xo.html Enjoy! 🙏 - Patrick
When holding your legs and toes over your shoulders on the mat is it normal to feel some pressure on the back of your head or should most of your weight be carried on your shoulders? If it is normal assuming it's something that becomes less noticeable as you get used to the movement?
Hey Antonio, yes very normal. You will need to develop your flexibility in your entire posterior chain, and also specifically in the back of your neck. Once you increase your range of motion though, the discomfort almost entirely goes away. Just practice regularly and you will get there, consistency over intensity. Hope this helps! - Patrick
Whoa! The one on the wall looks like you some gravity defying physics or something. It would be cool if you recorded with the camera on its side so that the wall appeared to be the floor. It kinda reminds me of the hallway fight scene in Inception where gravity keeps changing.
Thanks for the comment, Amit Kumar. Indeed, the first step of the techniques serves as the best stretch you can do for this technique, but you can and should definitely have a complete stretching program. Something we are planning to document on video in the future. Thanks for watching! - Patrick
Hey Jack, good question. The main one would be to hold the final position, relax, breathe, and gradually let gravity increase your flexibility in the neck, back, and hamstrings. Doing the forward stretch seated (bringing your head towards your knees) is also helpful. I also recommend you do the opposite stretch (cobra stretch), so as to not create any muscle or joint imbalance. Hope this helps! - Patrick
The hints I would have needed were: Keep the far side foot close to the floor too (don't lift it up high), and when rolling down bend the leg that you are rolling over so you have a nook for your arm so that you don't crush it when coming down
Flexibility plays a big role, I recommend focusing on hamstring and hip stretches and you’ll get there! Check out my complete stretching routine here: th-cam.com/video/avpLW897fm4/w-d-xo.html Enjoy!
I tried this while sparring and my OP who had 100 pounds on me just laid on me halfway through. I was able to finish but the amount of weight he put on me brusied my ribs and neck. Should this be avoided with bigger people or just done faster before they can smash?
Good question, Socrates 98. Indeed a skilled opponent, particularly if he's heavier, will try to smash you in the inverted position. In order to be effective, you must train yourself to be comfortable under pressure when inverted, and also combine this guard retention movement with attacks such as leg lock entries, inverted triangles and sweeps. More content on this to come, meantime, as soon as you feel better, I recommend you just train yourself to stay inverted, and collapse completely in half with progressively increasing pressure so you don't hurt yourself if it happens again. Also, I am a big fan of early tapping whenever you feel something is wrong and you are getting hurt, even if there is no submission. Safety first, no egos. Hope this helps. - Patrick
People need to be aware that poor flexibility can make this roll difficult. I've been a week just hanging upside down trying to get my toes to touch, feels like im going to snap in two, but making progress. Just practicing the roll may not be enough if your body has poor flexibility like mine does
I can't do this for the life of it. Lol. But I'll keep drilling for it and maybe one day I can. I'm also a woman who is 40 lbs overweight so that might make it harder. But that's why I joined BJJ to get fit again. I just started bjj a couple weeks ago.
Lol... Indeed it can be challenging if you're generously built around the waist. Focus on cardio and proper nutrition and you make it easier for yourself!
Want more grappling basics instructionals to develop the agility, flexibility, and strength to improve faster? Check out this playlist: White Belt Grappling Basics Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLoeO7pmUOHn6Aufbr45XN1x2_xVD5FUKY.html Thanks for watching! Subscribe now to stay in the loop and discover everything else you need to know for a complete martial arts education. Enjoy! - Patrick
Go slow. If inverting is painful, start by simply stretching your neck forward by pulling with your hands. Do this regularly until you can get to step no. 1 of this video. People have varying levels of flexibility, the important is to progress at your own pace. Hope this helps. - Patrick
Indeed, this can be challenging if you’re carrying extra weight in the mid section. Focus on cardio and proper nutrition and you’ll make it a lot easier!
Shout out to all my whitebelts who are just confused as hell when the shoulder roll comes up during warm ups.
I look like a fish on the mat lol
Lol... this move definitely requires more practice than most basic techniques. Keep at it, you'll get there! - Patrick
I looked like a disaster yesterday trying this hahahaha
Haha first night learning this I have no flexibility
I’m still tryna figure it out at blue belt
Best Granby tutorial I have ever viewed.
Thanks, glad you like it!
- Patrick
@@EffectiveMartialArts Thank you! I'm going to practice Granby now with your tutorial.
ice_look Awesome! Check out our White Belt Basics videos on our Playlists page for many more solo drill ideas! - Patrick
@@EffectiveMartialArts Thank you so much, Patrick. Will do! Best to you from Canada.
As a beginner, I feel like I have way more trouble doing this roll then most others
Indeed, Winni, this is generally the most challenging technique for most beginners in the grappling basics curriculum. Keep at it and follow the method, you'll get there! - Patrick
Exactly what I was looking for. Clear, concise, stepped and realistic 🙏🏽😊. Thanks.
My pleasure, Adam! Much more good stuff on the way! - Patrick
The steps were everything! I just did it!
Been training for about a year, and this is one of the only movements I haven't been able to learn. (Back Rolls are still ugly but getting better,) however Shoulder/Granby Rolls have eluded me. Watching your video revealed why, and what I can do to improve it (flexibility) thank you tons!
My pleasure!
This is an excellent tutorial thank you, I’m practising this at home to return to the mats to effortlessly perform this technique to the amazement of every other white belt in my gym, for something that looks so remarkably simple it’s amazing how difficult it actually is for beginners
Nice, good job!
Glad we could help :)
Bro thank you! Finally someone shows this instead of a backwards shoulder roll only!
Thank you very much! We got this on warmup and I sucked at it. So now I drill this at home.
Awesome, that's why we make these videos. Glad we could help! - Patrick
got my purple belt and ready to learn white belt basics
Thank you so much 😂 for a week I been just rolling. My hips was not getting off the mat 🤣
Very useful and overlooked, thank you Patrick!
Glad you like it, Lurkyte Spaed! Many more tutorials to come that will build on this basic technique. Thanks for watching :)
- Patrick
Thank you for explaining the steps! I will keep practicing, not there yet
Very useful. Thank you. The breakdown was very good.
Thanks, padmelotus! My pleasure :) - Patrick
superbly broken down -thank you!
My pleasure, ZHLodhi! We try to make martial arts techniques accessible to anyone willing to invest the time in learning and practicing! Thanks for watching and commenting! - Patrick
Thank you so much for this !!!
My pleasure, Melissa!
- Patrick
Excellent tutorial that looks fun to do & very detailed for the Granby!! You are a great instructor! Thank you for sharing!! 👍👍👍👍👍!!
Exactly what I was looking for. Nice one man.
Thanks, strong mind!
- Patrick
Ok thanks for this no joke the other day my martial arts teacher had us doing this and I had 0 clue
Lol... yeah, this technique is rarely well broken down for new students. Glad I could help! - Patrick
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Great tutorial video. Thank you.
Wow, thank you so much!
Thanks to your explanation i did it perfectly my first try!
Nice!
Thanks.Great explanation. Finally made sense for my freestyle wrestling classes.
Awesome! Glad you liked it 👍 - Patrick
Thanks for the explanation!
well done!
Thanks!
Good job Patrick :)
Thanks, Diana Diana!
Just found this channel! Even though I go to krav maga training every week, this helps a lot! Keep up the great work
Stop doing Krav Maga and learn a martial arts that’ll actually
Be applicable
Thank you, seriously, thank you :)
My pleasure! This is a challenging technique, but well worth the effort! - Patrick
Got to get these down. They’ve been my nemesis lol
Lol... good luck! Another thing that I didn’t mention in this video, is hamstring flexibility will help you a lot to execute this without putting too much stress on your neck. Check out this full-body stretching routine for ideas:
th-cam.com/video/avpLW897fm4/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy, and practice well!
- Patrick
I went to the high school where this originated. Awesome.
Nice thank you sir
Nice one!
Thanks, Feldenkrais!
- Patrick
You make it look so easy
Haha... thanks! A big part of it is having adequate flexibility. Check out my follow-along stretching routine for that:
How to Stretch
th-cam.com/video/avpLW897fm4/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy! 🙏
- Patrick
When holding your legs and toes over your shoulders on the mat is it normal to feel some pressure on the back of your head or should most of your weight be carried on your shoulders? If it is normal assuming it's something that becomes less noticeable as you get used to the movement?
Hey Antonio, yes very normal. You will need to develop your flexibility in your entire posterior chain, and also specifically in the back of your neck. Once you increase your range of motion though, the discomfort almost entirely goes away. Just practice regularly and you will get there, consistency over intensity. Hope this helps!
- Patrick
@@EffectiveMartialArts Thanks so much for the response and all your other amazing videos, greatly appreciated!
Can u pls teach how to do a tornado kick?(Btw love the video)👌
Noted, we already have lots of content planned, but will keep this one in mind for the future! - Patrick
@@EffectiveMartialArts thank you! (;
Whoa! The one on the wall looks like you some gravity defying physics or something. It would be cool if you recorded with the camera on its side so that the wall appeared to be the floor.
It kinda reminds me of the hallway fight scene in Inception where gravity keeps changing.
Lol... thanks for the suggestion!
- Patrick
Also add some stretching exercise
Thanks for the comment, Amit Kumar. Indeed, the first step of the techniques serves as the best stretch you can do for this technique, but you can and should definitely have a complete stretching program. Something we are planning to document on video in the future. Thanks for watching!
- Patrick
What are some drills I can do to become more flexible to be able to do this?
Hey Jack, good question. The main one would be to hold the final position, relax, breathe, and gradually let gravity increase your flexibility in the neck, back, and hamstrings. Doing the forward stretch seated (bringing your head towards your knees) is also helpful. I also recommend you do the opposite stretch (cobra stretch), so as to not create any muscle or joint imbalance. Hope this helps! - Patrick
Effective Martial Arts thanks started trying holding the final position I’m getting closer to the full roll
thankss
My pleasure!
Nice sir
The hints I would have needed were: Keep the far side foot close to the floor too (don't lift it up high), and when rolling down bend the leg that you are rolling over so you have a nook for your arm so that you don't crush it when coming down
been doing jujitsu for 1.5 years and still have trouble doing this, can you become a blue belt if you cant do this move?
It is challenging. Most likely the thing that will help the most will be stretching your hamstrings and hip joints. Hope this helps!
I'm a beginner white belt and this is the only technique I really struggle with, I feel like I won't be able to do it
Flexibility plays a big role, I recommend focusing on hamstring and hip stretches and you’ll get there!
Check out my complete stretching routine here:
th-cam.com/video/avpLW897fm4/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy!
I tried this while sparring and my OP who had 100 pounds on me just laid on me halfway through. I was able to finish but the amount of weight he put on me brusied my ribs and neck. Should this be avoided with bigger people or just done faster before they can smash?
Good question, Socrates 98. Indeed a skilled opponent, particularly if he's heavier, will try to smash you in the inverted position. In order to be effective, you must train yourself to be comfortable under pressure when inverted, and also combine this guard retention movement with attacks such as leg lock entries, inverted triangles and sweeps. More content on this to come, meantime, as soon as you feel better, I recommend you just train yourself to stay inverted, and collapse completely in half with progressively increasing pressure so you don't hurt yourself if it happens again. Also, I am a big fan of early tapping whenever you feel something is wrong and you are getting hurt, even if there is no submission. Safety first, no egos. Hope this helps.
- Patrick
Why does this look so easy when someone else does it and the first time I tried it I looked like a floppy fish.
Goooooooooooooooooooooddddddddddd (good )
Thanks!
Granby roll most likely as taught by wrestling coach Billy Martin at Granby H.S., Norfolk, Va. ca. 1960's.
Yes indeed, this move was developed in Wrestling, and also applies very well to Grappling. Thanks for the comment, stjosdo! - Patrick
People need to be aware that poor flexibility can make this roll difficult. I've been a week just hanging upside down trying to get my toes to touch, feels like im going to snap in two, but making progress. Just practicing the roll may not be enough if your body has poor flexibility like mine does
I can't do this for the life of it. Lol. But I'll keep drilling for it and maybe one day I can. I'm also a woman who is 40 lbs overweight so that might make it harder. But that's why I joined BJJ to get fit again. I just started bjj a couple weeks ago.
can't get my toes on the mat behind my head. just too stiff. :(
I have too many belly rolls to do this shoulder roll. 😩
Lol... Indeed it can be challenging if you're generously built around the waist. Focus on cardio and proper nutrition and you make it easier for yourself!
Want more grappling basics instructionals to develop the agility, flexibility, and strength to improve faster? Check out this playlist:
White Belt Grappling Basics Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLoeO7pmUOHn6Aufbr45XN1x2_xVD5FUKY.html
Thanks for watching! Subscribe now to stay in the loop and discover everything else you need to know for a complete martial arts education. Enjoy!
- Patrick
5 people tapped to a Granby Roll
Lol!
How do I do this without fucking up my neck?
Go slow. If inverting is painful, start by simply stretching your neck forward by pulling with your hands. Do this regularly until you can get to step no. 1 of this video. People have varying levels of flexibility, the important is to progress at your own pace. Hope this helps. - Patrick
hi
Hello
Quebec accent :D
Haha... here I was thinking my English was pretty good. Good ear! - Patrick
Yeah... Imma switch to muay thai or something
I'm too fat
Indeed, this can be challenging if you’re carrying extra weight in the mid section. Focus on cardio and proper nutrition and you’ll make it a lot easier!
@@EffectiveMartialArts thanks coach gonna work on it!