How to Write for Bassoon in 4 Minutes

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2021
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  • @bobboulden
    @bobboulden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I don't have perfect pitch but as soon as I heard that first note I knew it was Rite of Spring.

    • @amj.composer
      @amj.composer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's known as the Levitin Effect

    • @snarf1504
      @snarf1504 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You don't need perfect pitch to recognize a melody, lol

    • @gustheGOATfr
      @gustheGOATfr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      all i know that it was the song that caused a riot

    • @duryi6399
      @duryi6399 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its a C

  • @tarynnwitten868
    @tarynnwitten868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A wonderful introduction for a composer who doesn't play bassoon. Thank you very much.

  • @StelarRoomVids
    @StelarRoomVids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yay we have a bassoon video now :)

  • @matiasorozcoezcurra3971
    @matiasorozcoezcurra3971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When ur done with ur how to write for woodwinds series, could u continue it by inviting other musicians and they say how to write for the instrument?

  • @KCookMusic
    @KCookMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Really good video! As a second year college student studying bassoon, everything said was accurate! I wish you mentioned the lackluster dynamic range though, with it being so much smaller than other woodwind instruments

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LOL dynamics! We have a big dynamic range from a loudish mp to a quietish mf. We might get some notes at a middling-quiet mp, with a good reed. Low D works best as a muffled p. Low B is only available at fff.

    • @theexcaliburone5933
      @theexcaliburone5933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bassoon has a pretty big dynamic range

    • @willmorris8198
      @willmorris8198 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mrewan6221Low B only available at FFF? Tell that to Tchaikovsky who wrote low B1 at ppp at the end of movement 1 of his fifth symphony 😂

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL! I suspect Tchaikovsy was expecting bassoons to have a consistent dynamic range, like a decent modern piano.
      Sullivan wrote low D at ff followed by low B as pp. He actually played bassoon, and was probably just trying to get both notes balanced at some sort of mezzo-volume.
      Maybe Tchaikowsky was doing something similar?
      But then, Tchaikovsky also wrote low D at pppppp (6th Symphony, end of first movement). Probably a bit of overkill.
      Or maybe French system bassoons? I have no knowledge of their dynamic profile.

    • @willmorris8198
      @willmorris8198 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mrewan6221 I've found generally composers don't give a crap about the technical limitations of our instrument (or other instruments) and sometimes we just have to find a way to make it work. Great orchestration is half about using the colors of the orchestra effectively AND writing idiomatic parts. Some composers like Tchaikovsky is better at the first and not so much at the second :)

  • @dedede5586
    @dedede5586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    as a bassoon player, this is completely accurate!

  • @ottogibbs
    @ottogibbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video Josh! It’s brilliant as always

  • @gemmamerinserra4988
    @gemmamerinserra4988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear and concise as always!

  • @Cazcanhazvideos
    @Cazcanhazvideos ปีที่แล้ว

    This video series is WONDERFUL. Great work. xxx

  • @yoaveden
    @yoaveden 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best timing ever!!! I just finished my composition lesson, ready for bassoon hahah

  • @JaySchwartz
    @JaySchwartz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. Nicely done!

  • @lambda1863
    @lambda1863 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone whos trying to write a section with a bassoon playing the main melody i appreciate this video

  • @solus5635
    @solus5635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful series, great job man!

  • @projectmilzock
    @projectmilzock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a lovely sound

  • @jeremyzerbe3152
    @jeremyzerbe3152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So helpful! I'm a composer and it was helpful differentiating the extended techniques from single reed instruments.

  • @iwantmy2dollars662
    @iwantmy2dollars662 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as I bassoonist I agree with all said in this video!

  • @lucyyockey2741
    @lucyyockey2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Many bassoons have keys that allow for expedited fingerings for high (fourth octave) E♭ and E (and sometimes F), even though this isn’t a guarantee, you can rely on these if your player has a professional bassoon. (But like… maybe don’t write that high?😆)

  • @aldrydd1
    @aldrydd1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Informative video!

  • @willmorris8198
    @willmorris8198 ปีที่แล้ว

    Playing Pictures at an Exhibition (ravel version) and for some reason Ravel decided to switch from tenor to bass clef as the note was getting higher LOL. IMO everyone has their own guideline of how tenor/bass clef switches should work, but I believe we bassoonists need to be prepared for anything.

  • @Origen17
    @Origen17 ปีที่แล้ว

    super-helpful - thanks!

  • @mrewan6221
    @mrewan6221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I once had semiquaver patterns low B C D C / / / / / / - transcribed from brass band, and similar high C Bb A Bb / / / / / / etc - transcribed from strings. Both cases were someone who looked up the range in a book and forgot to talk to an actual bassoonist!
    … and, I tell people "Don't write in tenor clef unless most of the notes are on ledger lines - in tenor clef. We can read a few ledger lines in bass clef quite comfortably." There's a special place in hell for people who write below A in the middle of the tenor staff. Mozart did it, but he's dead now.

  • @matiasorozcoezcurra3971
    @matiasorozcoezcurra3971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Return of the king

  • @sonen3
    @sonen3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be awesome to hear some examples of multiphonics on contrabassoon as well!

  • @enriquesaenzavila3432
    @enriquesaenzavila3432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty good video, man. Can u explain how to cifrate the multifonics?

  • @aidanknox2430
    @aidanknox2430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a good day it is

  • @Gabe3N
    @Gabe3N 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video to see right after a day of band camp.

  • @joshuagonzalez3916
    @joshuagonzalez3916 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very instructive video. I'm writing a bassoon & guitar sonate. Where can I find the multiphonics digitation diagram? Thank you so much.

  • @GrotrianSeiler
    @GrotrianSeiler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Josh, this is a great video. I've started playing my oboe with a friend new to the bassoon. He's making good progress and takes a weekly lesson. The options for duets is very small-mostly too hard for him and some contemporary stuff that doesn't appeal to either of us. I have a ton of books for oboe duets and other C instruments. How can I easily transpose all the 2nd parts to bass clef? There must be a program that does this, yes? Thanks so much.

  • @laurajhball
    @laurajhball 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now I can write 4 minutes of bassoon music! Oh wait ... that's not what that title means. 🤔😂

  • @dreamingeel8391
    @dreamingeel8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ur a star

  • @bruimprov
    @bruimprov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Suggestions for scores to read of more modern bassoon composers? I looked at Vivaldi’s concerti, but it’s older composition. Also, what is write is concert pitch? Thanks

  • @matiasmarquez4861
    @matiasmarquez4861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed you c:

  • @nicktannen
    @nicktannen ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, thanks very helpful. Any tips on speed and jumps, for example 16th notes at 135, with long jumps, how many measures is comfortable to play?

    • @nyancs7098
      @nyancs7098 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the interval and the fingering of the notes, bassoon is really agile but there are some notes that are hard to hit with out cracking like d above middle c

  • @enriquesaenzavila3432
    @enriquesaenzavila3432 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible to write unit notes (in 4/4) using the "aspirated air strike" technique?

  • @sergiogodinez3770
    @sergiogodinez3770 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YES! :D

  • @vp5633
    @vp5633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Benny Harvey RIP

  • @isaiahhymans948
    @isaiahhymans948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg yes

  • @lindichen50
    @lindichen50 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:01

  • @daniellepalao4089
    @daniellepalao4089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please cover Fireflies by Owl City?

  • @dirkbretschneider4935
    @dirkbretschneider4935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a legère reed, no? How do you like it?

    • @JoshPlotner
      @JoshPlotner  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! They're honestly great. Haven't found a cane reed I like better, and they're so convenient that I'm afraid to find one. There are a couple little issues here and there but overall they really are great reeds.

  •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about the contra bassoon?

    • @JoshPlotner
      @JoshPlotner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just waiting on the $20,000 donation to my channel 😂😅

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoshPlotner even more expensive than baritone sax or bass clarinet? It has a lot of low end ooomph though. The other end of the spectrum compared to piccolo flute 😝

    • @JoshPlotner
      @JoshPlotner  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Oh by far. Those instruments don't cost anywhere near that, even brand new.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoshPlotner 😢

  • @ottogibbs
    @ottogibbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First haha

    • @aldrydd1
      @aldrydd1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beat me to it!

  • @clipcity484
    @clipcity484 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to add that holding those low notes is significantly easier when it’s louder. Playing softer is hard in the low register because you have to balance filling with air and also staying soft so after about fourish measures things start to go awry