Instrument quality serves a function and reason within a market. Thank you for bringing it up. My husband has been wanting a hammered dulcimer for a few years now, but life has kept getting in the way. This is a good reminder that we don't need to go all out on an expensive instrument, especially if he's going to be a beginner on it.
Totally! And yes as long as the dulcimer holds tuning well, you can find some pretty sweet deals on Craigslist. One persons trash is another's treasure!
I was pleasantly surprised by this video. I am a bassoonist who is not a fan of Lintons, but now that I see that it’s mostly just the 5000 series ones that get the bad rep. This one sounds really good for what it is, and gets the job that you need done! It’s a perfect instrument for a multi-instrumentalist, and a very good option for students to get! Thanks for the informative video!
As long as an instrument is constructed properly from suitable materials then they should all produce an adequate sound. Once you go past semi-pro instruments in the $1.5-4k mark, you're really getting diminishing returns. Best if you can find a less expensive alternative that has a character to its sound that you like.
I appreciate your bringing up the gatekeeping factor of needing a really expensive instrument to be considered a "real musician" or whatever. 🙄 Isn't music supposed to be fun? So just find a decent enough instrument in your price range and have at it! I think of it a lot like buying the fanciest ingredients for food. Sure, maybe my food would taste better if I bought top of the line organic whatever, but getting what's available from the grocery store and giving it some TLC sure does make a tasty meal without breaking the bank! I'm not trying to impress anyone. Just trying to do the things that bring me joy. Thanks for being an inspiration, Luke!!!
Ahhh this is such an important topic, thank you for writing this Emily! Your food analogy is perfect, it's about *what* you're cookin' that matters 🍲🍲🍲
You can do that? Did you ask your director if you could march with flute and just do concert with bassoon or do you do marching and concert band separately?
This was really fun. I am a clarinet player but in college I played bassoon for kicks in the concert band after falling in love with it during woodwind methods. Unfortunately the school let me use the really good professional Fox that they owned in attempts to persuade me to switch instruments. They did not have a bassoonist in the wind ensemble at the time. So I am spoiled buy having learned on a pro instrument. It is maybe 20 years later and I really want to pick up the bassoon again but am having a dickens of a time finding something that I am comfy with in my price range.
Well, that was a surprise! Bassoon is/was my main instrument, my money maker. Flute was always my first love, so as I've gotten older, I devote more time to flute.
A friend in the first music school I went to got his Heckel bassoon in 1972. Because of demand, it had been back-ordered for years, and I believe it cost $6,000, which I thought was outrageous. I forget what brand his first bassoon was but it was wood and looked very nice, but the huge difference in the Heckel was that it played perfectly in tune. Anyway, you play this cheap bassoon very nicely, and quite well in tune.
@@somebody9033 That's how much prices have gone up. The same Haynes or Powell flute which cost $1,000 in 1972 now costs over $13,000. I understand though, with bassoons, it's a supply and demand thing, bassoons being so rare, with the best ones being even rarer. Something different happened with flutes though, the best ones have a lot of competition, which started in about the mid-1970s. There are a over a dozen good brands of flute, whereas there used to be only two top ones, maybe three or four, if you include Hammig or Lot, and the irony is, flute is much more about headjoint than the flute body itself. When Lafin started making great headjoints about 25 years ago, flutists from around the world flocked to get one, even at their high price, no matter what stupid flute they had. Now flute headjoint makers have gotten better though. So of the wind players, bassoonists are the unluckiest in terms of the price that must be paid to get a really good instrument, but even so, many top string players pay more than $50,000 for a bow. So, there's that.
Why was I blown away when you effortlessly played a scale on bassoon when your name is literally InstrumentManiac???? 😂🙈 This was fun to watch! I’m glad this worked out for you in the end, and may I suggest your next holiday card be you with mystery man from the photos! 🥸🤣
What a cool adventure to go on. Instruments have such great tales to tell, from the musicians who have used them to the venues they have been used in. I'd like to think their character influences how we play them. Now it's your turn to add to this bassoon's history.
I got my Selmer Bundy Bassoon for $300 off Ebay back in 2013. It's still serving me well to this day, despite being a bit of a trash instrument. My experience with all my instruments is that as along as you have a good setup and are a good enough player, you can make most instruments work. XD
I love the sound of the bassoon! We had records when I was a kid that had stories such as Little Red Riding Hood accompanied by symphony music. Can’t hear a bassoon without thinking of those fairy tales set to music.
A good friend at Jr and High school played the bassoon. Always liked the sound of that and end the English Horn... even the oboe. They have a very unique sound.
Never played one, but have molded Selmer/Bundy instruments in a injection molding factory, including the bassoon. They are actually pretty touchy to mold. If the machine is not adjusted right, you will get crazy flow lines in the plastic. Oboe was similar, but tended to get voids if injected too fast. My specialty was buffing the seam out of clarinet bells.
My first instrument was a Linton 5000 and it definitely was up to the stereotype. I personally won't be looking on ebay for my professional instrument, but its good to see that there can be some good instruments for cheap!
I've been considering getting a bassoon again on and off over the past few years. You actually uploaded this video the same year I was officially without a bassoon. I have a tumultuous relationship with the bassoon and my experience with band in school. Ultimately, my district opened up a new high school that i ended up attending and I told the new directors that i refused to do marching band. I was given the ultimatum of either quitting band altogether or staying in both concert band and marching band. I chose to say bye to it all. I don't regret my decision, but i've slowly begun to miss the bassoon over the years. It used to be such a big part of who I was. I've always tried to distance myself from certain aspects of music and the bassoon because of how stressed competition made me. The end of your video, hearing your mash up of Zelda and Sonic - the bassoon just sounded so pretty with those high notes and i can remember flipping through the scales like that and how nice it was. I think youve convinced me to go for it. I dont know - The bassoon has always been extremely emotional for me - almost like a toxic relationship? Hearing it being played for fun just made me sappy i guess. I appreciate the info you've provided here and will keep it in mind when making a purchase (if i end up doing so). And thank you for the song at the end. I dont know why, but that made me feel warm.
0:36 My exact vision with recorders. I used to think you could only get good recorders with prices over 200 euros, but really, cheaper recorders are fine too, you don’t always need the best of the best.
I'm so impressed you play all those instruments as well as you do--to make these videos sound great. The bassoon sounds good, doesn't it? I loved the Contrabass clarinet btw. Gorgeous instrument.
I have no idea about instruments and youtube video making...but from the ultimate laymen like me... Thank you! This was fun to watch and educational. What you give is unique and appreciated!!!!!
Pretty cool! Tone and response? Good as far as my ears can tell. The intonation is dubious, but I wonder if the keywork that was “updated” post-market wasn’t done perfectly. Cool video!
Thanks brass wizard! That's definitely a possibility as well, I guess at this point only time will tell 😅 It'd be cool to see something like this with brass instruments on your channel if you ever get the Ebay bug!
I totally agree, you dont need the perfect instrument, the only instrument in your collection that should be as close as you can get to perfect is your main instrument, if you have one.
Functional bassoon for that price is very lucky. I bought what I and the seller thought was a model IV FOX for $1,500 which is a bargain, but it in rreality it was a Fox Model 1 tenor joint with a model 41 body. It plays well, so the seller gave back $300 and I accepted it and play it as my picnic instrument saving my Heckel from outdoor damage. Get a Heckel bocal and see if improves sound and intonation.
Man, I've always wanted to try a bassoon, didn't realize there were bassoons that were that cheap. Please dont give me ideas, my wallet is really vulnerable right now
You sound great congratulations! Not sure if anyone else has said this, but please try to get a replacement boot cap though if you haven’t already. I worry that the u-tube(yes that’s the real name lol) on the boot joint might get dented and otherwise damaged without it. Keep enjoying your bassoon! It makes me so sad that so many bassoons are so expensive. What I don’t understand is why other instrument makers like yamaha make affordable student instruments but not the bassoon. Congratulations again! So happy I found this video.
The U-tube... I can't even 😂 incredible... thanks for the advice will do! I agree, I hope yamaha realizes some day there is totally an open spot in the market for a reasonably affordable resin instrument. The student bass clarinet plays great for example and it's perfect for doubling!
@@InstrumentManiac I wish I was kidding about the U-tube being a fake name but it's real! And yes for a reasonable resin instrument becoming available. I keep saying "if you build it they will come" as far as a market goes...but sadly there's still not enough people in the right places to actually follow through. I'll keep advocating though!
@@InstrumentManiac I suspect that the biggest drawback to trying to make a reasonably affordable bassoon is the bocal. There's no way to make that 'simple, cheap, and good' - even though it doesn't appear that complicated. That and unlike most instruments, the pieces have to be made to sandwich together properly. That, combined with the low numbers of people willing to play "the big kazoo" as well as the ongoing expense of the reeds (I recommend plastic reeds for someone starting out - they aren't the best, but they'll last), makes it not wonderful. keep in mind that oboe has the same issue with no really inexpensive options
I played a rental Linton in High School. Just bought the identical one, a black composite Linton on Ebay. It was brand new but from tracing the serial number it was probably made in the same batch as my high school rental. I think it sounds great! My teacher, the principal bassoonist for LPO has put the bocal from his gazillion $ Henkel into my Linton - when he plays it the sound is wonderful!!! So I know the potential to sound great is there. Also, living in New Orleans, the humidity really affects wooden instruments, so the composite makes sense. Is the one you're playing wooden?? It looks great! It has the lump in the top section - something mine lacks.
Very interesting! I think that's the case for a lot of old "student" instruments. They can actually sound pretty dang good when they are fully fixed with the right setup. Glad to hear yours is working well!
Having been playing a Linton bassoon ever since I picked up the instrument, I have to agree about the tuning. After doing some research, I found some alternate note fingerings to stabilize the tone. Overall it doesn't really matter what bassoon you choose, it's the player that makes the instrument sound best.
Always been my dream to learn such an instrument. My sisters as children were given from school clarinets to learn. They just learned thee very very basics and hardly touched them. When I asked my parents: No! only girls play those. For a ten year old I was devasted. I knew I could learn them; appreciate an instrument. Such a beautiful sound the Bassoon makes.
I'm hearing issues with the instrument, but what I'm thinking is 1) if it's wood, make sure to oil it. 2) I think a couple of the pads are leaking air. It could be a slightly bent key.
Oh okay I hear Linton and immediately thought of the scary student plastic ones. The wooden ones are like you said the "bundy" of Bassoons not bad but not good.
It is true that Linton has gotten a bad reputation in the past. I have a plastic Linton bassoon which I use for outdoor concerts. However, with decent reeds and an excellent bocal the instrument plays pretty well.
I play on a wooden Jupiter clarinet, it’s my first wooden clarinet I bought on my own, it’s not a buffet R13 but I sound a lot better than the r13s in my community band, I have a warm dark tone and it cost half the money of brand new r 13 and has an extra eflat key. It’s made from China but hey it works for me and it sounds amazing. So yeah you don’t need a top brand name instrument to play amazing, also I started on a selmers 300 clarinet and loved it.
If you were to add to the arrangement a treble recorder part, tightly composed, complex and played deftly and quickly, you would have something approaching a classic piece by prog-folk band, Gryphon.
I'm new here. My first question is, which instrument are you not able to play? hahaha :) Really cool channel! I'm looking forward to play another member of the wood instrument family soon.
It's like the Jupiter student flutes. They have multiple grades even within that existing category and you can get some fairly inexpensive Jupiter brand flutes that sound quite lovely. Are they as nice as a $8-15k flute? No, they're not, but they're still lovely in their own right. My sister just picked one up to use until she gets around to getting her much nicer flute repadded and it has a fantastic mellow quality to the sound, which makes it very enjoyable to listen to. It's less bright compared to her other flute which is sterling and open-hole, which means it wouldn't be ideal for a first flute or a solo, but that's perfectly fine if all you really want it for is to practice with so you can maintain your embouchure. Apparently that slightly darker, more mellow sound is indicative of Jupiter flutes, which I really don't think is such a bad thing.
I’d love to play the bassoon! My school band program has it but alas has no reeds due to the cost. Currently playing a clarinet, which I enjoy, but I’d definitely love the bassoon. Edit: It’s me from the future! I bought bassoon reeds and a case and they should arrive this week.
wow so much to say. The first time you played it I was still a bit skeptical as the tone was very bad (no offense). the second time however the tone was solid and I was delightfully surprised how well this cheap bassoon plays with some work. As a bassoonist I would recommend getting a lock so the wing and long joint don't separate. A boot cap would also be good but it seems the seat strap remedy that came with the bassoon works just fine. Truly amazing on your part. I just want to say that buying a bassoon on ebay is not a good Idea for new players as It can be the source for a lot of frustration down the road and put a cap on how well you can play, which is never good. For some short solos by a great musician though very smooth and very good tone.
I enjoyed your bassoon journey! I also bought a bass clarinet off eBay and it is probably not the best but is decent and does the job as well! Only thing is it's not a low c so I can't hit high notes but it's a decent student model! You can find some good stuff on ebay! Enjoyed watching this!
Glad to hear your story too Brandon! I think it's important to share these since there is always such a frenzy for "expensive" instruments. I'm becoming more and more of an Ebay convert every year 😄
@@InstrumentManiac so am I! You're right it's good to share and like you said you don't always need an expensive instrument to enjoy it and for playing well! :)
I'm from Italy and I'm a Bassoonist, I've never heard about Linton. I think it is important to make the bassoon known and let everyone have the opportunity to try it and study it without having to spend 1000€
Nice bassoon! A cheap bassoon is not necessarily bad. It will never be a Heckel, how could it, but it is still nice instrument, has a really good price / value ratio, and you could certainly play the Mozart concerto on it. Most issues could probably be fixed by an overhaul. I got my Schreiber for 1500 Euro (~1800 USD) + 1000 CHF (~1100 USD) full overhaul. Also got a new bocal, which really wasn't necessary, but I saw a copper bocal and couldn't resist. Usually they are silver, some gold plated, but copper, all bassoonists I showed it to, were surprised and haven't seen one before. I'm happy with the bassoon and will never sell it, even if I buy that dream Heckel one day :)
SERIOUSLY! I don’t want to downplay this man’s other gifts because he’s wildly talented, entertaining, and soothing to listen to but my gosh he’s in good shape. I’m impressed he has time to make multitrack videos and work out.
@@InstrumentManiac what can I say? I enjoy watching your videos. 😇 I am also a multi-instrumentalist and a high school music teacher but not quite so easy on the eyes. Keep up the good work!
Great video, you definitely are a musical chameleon! Interesting info and fabulous 1970’s elevator music at the end, to remind me of my childhood 🥰. Subscribed 😊
I don't know why I'm here. Thanks algorithm. Out of curiosity, I checked the link for reeds. Counting inflation the price is slightly better than I was paying as a student 60 years ago when Willard Elliot was with the Dallas Symphony and making reeds.
Intonation is always tricky. I keep looking for a Holton Farkas double horn, but that’s going to run $4k to $6k. Should have never sold mine after college.
Similar experience with a Chinese made bassoon whose scale was "distempered". However the real reason I clicked is the muscle shirt and jeans. THAT was worth it.
Aw thanks EZ! Unfortunately there is a pretty large difference. Cheaper plastic instruments can't resonate the same way as wood does and it often ends up sounding muffled or "plastic-y". But if that's all you have access to it's a good way to practice until finding a cheaper wooden one some day 😊
It could stand to go in for a checkup to get the keys aligned and repadded as necessary and to service it, but overall it seems like a perfectly fine bassoon. Maybe not quite as loud as you might prefer for a concert instrument, but that's really hard to tell from a video like this and it is also not nearly so important for your needs. It makes nice doot doot noises so you're good.
I personally don’t think Bundy is crap because my trombone is a Bundy, with really decent tone and a very big difference in projection compared to my school’s Yamaha trombone
Chines maple wood basson on UK ebay rated by seller teacher (not me!) as good as much more costly french instrument. The chinese produce what buyers are prepared to pay for.
It's honestly rolling a dice. Your best bet is to keep an eye on ebay for a cheaper wooden one from a seller that has good ratings. That was my strategy for this one.
Still holdin' those claves like that, huh? Great video; makes me want a bassoon, too. Guess I'll check out eBay. (Oh, the "sousaphone" in the photo seems to be a helicon.)
Good video. I know nothing about Linton. However, as a school music teacher for 40 years, I do have experience with Bundy, Selmer's student line. They are easy to play although they have some tuning issues. Most beginners also have tuning issues so that is not a real problem. They are also well made and stand up to the casual abuse that elementary and middle school musicians subject their instruments to. They are not artist instruments, but they work for the students they are designed for. I suspect that there are many high school and college musicians who use Bundy instruments for marching band and other less that friendly environments. You are impressive in playing so many instruments.
Instrument quality serves a function and reason within a market. Thank you for bringing it up. My husband has been wanting a hammered dulcimer for a few years now, but life has kept getting in the way. This is a good reminder that we don't need to go all out on an expensive instrument, especially if he's going to be a beginner on it.
Totally! And yes as long as the dulcimer holds tuning well, you can find some pretty sweet deals on Craigslist.
One persons trash is another's treasure!
Plot Twist: the crazy guy in the pictures with a bunch of instruments - it's you from the future
this is earth shattering
This is probably true-
It is :0
WHOA
@@InstrumentManiac *EARTHQUAKE WARNING*
find shelter and, uh, don't die.
I was pleasantly surprised by this video. I am a bassoonist who is not a fan of Lintons, but now that I see that it’s mostly just the 5000 series ones that get the bad rep. This one sounds really good for what it is, and gets the job that you need done! It’s a perfect instrument for a multi-instrumentalist, and a very good option for students to get! Thanks for the informative video!
As long as an instrument is constructed properly from suitable materials then they should all produce an adequate sound. Once you go past semi-pro instruments in the $1.5-4k mark, you're really getting diminishing returns. Best if you can find a less expensive alternative that has a character to its sound that you like.
@@mndlessdrwerall that you will really find in the $1.5k-$4k range are student bassoons.
I appreciate your bringing up the gatekeeping factor of needing a really expensive instrument to be considered a "real musician" or whatever. 🙄 Isn't music supposed to be fun? So just find a decent enough instrument in your price range and have at it! I think of it a lot like buying the fanciest ingredients for food. Sure, maybe my food would taste better if I bought top of the line organic whatever, but getting what's available from the grocery store and giving it some TLC sure does make a tasty meal without breaking the bank! I'm not trying to impress anyone. Just trying to do the things that bring me joy. Thanks for being an inspiration, Luke!!!
Ahhh this is such an important topic, thank you for writing this Emily!
Your food analogy is perfect, it's about *what* you're cookin' that matters 🍲🍲🍲
your food won't taste better with top ingredients if you're a lousy cook u dig ...
You're the reason why I play flute and bassoon, it's been 8 years!!
Ahh no way that's incredible! I'm honored!
Me too! I play flute in marching band and bassoon in concert.
You can do that? Did you ask your director if you could march with flute and just do concert with bassoon or do you do marching and concert band separately?
separately like you would have different directors and stuff
This was really fun. I am a clarinet player but in college I played bassoon for kicks in the concert band after falling in love with it during woodwind methods. Unfortunately the school let me use the really good professional Fox that they owned in attempts to persuade me to switch instruments. They did not have a bassoonist in the wind ensemble at the time. So I am spoiled buy having learned on a pro instrument. It is maybe 20 years later and I really want to pick up the bassoon again but am having a dickens of a time finding something that I am comfy with in my price range.
What do a bassoon and a lawsuit have in common?
Everyone's relieved when the case is closed
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🤣🤣🤣
Hahaa I have played bassoon for years and never heard that one 😂 Thanks for the laugh!
LMFAO I CANT
My brother played bassoon from 6th to 9th grade, and I have to agree some 30 (how has it been that long?) years later.
The blending of music and video are so beautifully done. Thank you for your talent and skills.
Thank you for your kind message! ☺️
Well, that was a surprise!
Bassoon is/was my main instrument, my money maker. Flute was always my first love, so as I've gotten older, I devote more time to flute.
A friend in the first music school I went to got his Heckel bassoon in 1972. Because of demand, it had been back-ordered for years, and I believe it cost $6,000, which I thought was outrageous. I forget what brand his first bassoon was but it was wood and looked very nice, but the huge difference in the Heckel was that it played perfectly in tune. Anyway, you play this cheap bassoon very nicely, and quite well in tune.
6,000 is nothing for a bassoon. You'd be lucky to find a heckel for 50,000 today.
@@somebody9033 That's how much prices have gone up. The same Haynes or Powell flute which cost $1,000 in 1972 now costs over $13,000. I understand though, with bassoons, it's a supply and demand thing, bassoons being so rare, with the best ones being even rarer.
Something different happened with flutes though, the best ones have a lot of competition, which started in about the mid-1970s. There are a over a dozen good brands of flute, whereas there used to be only two top ones, maybe three or four, if you include Hammig or Lot, and the irony is, flute is much more about headjoint than the flute body itself.
When Lafin started making great headjoints about 25 years ago, flutists from around the world flocked to get one, even at their high price, no matter what stupid flute they had. Now flute headjoint makers have gotten better though. So of the wind players, bassoonists are the unluckiest in terms of the price that must be paid to get a really good instrument, but even so, many top string players pay more than $50,000 for a bow. So, there's that.
Why was I blown away when you effortlessly played a scale on bassoon when your name is literally InstrumentManiac???? 😂🙈 This was fun to watch! I’m glad this worked out for you in the end, and may I suggest your next holiday card be you with mystery man from the photos! 🥸🤣
Aww thanks Ana! ❤️
Also that holiday card idea = incredible 😂
What a cool adventure to go on. Instruments have such great tales to tell, from the musicians who have used them to the venues they have been used in. I'd like to think their character influences how we play them. Now it's your turn to add to this bassoon's history.
Totally! I feel this as well. I love hearing stories about people's instruments and what crazy histories they have.
Love it! Also a great bocal and great reed can make all the difference in making a cheap instrument sound good.
Totally agree!
I got my Selmer Bundy Bassoon for $300 off Ebay back in 2013. It's still serving me well to this day, despite being a bit of a trash instrument. My experience with all my instruments is that as along as you have a good setup and are a good enough player, you can make most instruments work. XD
Glad to hear, that's my thoughts exactly!
I love the sound of the bassoon! We had records when I was a kid that had stories such as Little Red Riding Hood accompanied by symphony music. Can’t hear a bassoon without thinking of those fairy tales set to music.
A good friend at Jr and High school played the bassoon. Always liked the sound of that and end the English Horn... even the oboe. They have a very unique sound.
Never played one, but have molded Selmer/Bundy instruments in a injection molding factory, including the bassoon. They are actually pretty touchy to mold. If the machine is not adjusted right, you will get crazy flow lines in the plastic. Oboe was similar, but tended to get voids if injected too fast. My specialty was buffing the seam out of clarinet bells.
My first instrument was a Linton 5000 and it definitely was up to the stereotype. I personally won't be looking on ebay for my professional instrument, but its good to see that there can be some good instruments for cheap!
I've been considering getting a bassoon again on and off over the past few years. You actually uploaded this video the same year I was officially without a bassoon. I have a tumultuous relationship with the bassoon and my experience with band in school. Ultimately, my district opened up a new high school that i ended up attending and I told the new directors that i refused to do marching band. I was given the ultimatum of either quitting band altogether or staying in both concert band and marching band. I chose to say bye to it all. I don't regret my decision, but i've slowly begun to miss the bassoon over the years. It used to be such a big part of who I was. I've always tried to distance myself from certain aspects of music and the bassoon because of how stressed competition made me. The end of your video, hearing your mash up of Zelda and Sonic - the bassoon just sounded so pretty with those high notes and i can remember flipping through the scales like that and how nice it was. I think youve convinced me to go for it. I dont know - The bassoon has always been extremely emotional for me - almost like a toxic relationship? Hearing it being played for fun just made me sappy i guess. I appreciate the info you've provided here and will keep it in mind when making a purchase (if i end up doing so). And thank you for the song at the end. I dont know why, but that made me feel warm.
0:36 My exact vision with recorders. I used to think you could only get good recorders with prices over 200 euros, but really, cheaper recorders are fine too, you don’t always need the best of the best.
I'm so impressed you play all those instruments as well as you do--to make these videos sound great. The bassoon sounds good, doesn't it? I loved the Contrabass clarinet btw. Gorgeous instrument.
I have no idea about instruments and youtube video making...but from the ultimate laymen like me... Thank you! This was fun to watch and educational. What you give is unique and appreciated!!!!!
Ahh that was the goal! I'm glad it was understandable from a non-musician perspective. Thanks for watching!
Pretty cool! Tone and response? Good as far as my ears can tell. The intonation is dubious, but I wonder if the keywork that was “updated” post-market wasn’t done perfectly.
Cool video!
Thanks brass wizard! That's definitely a possibility as well, I guess at this point only time will tell 😅
It'd be cool to see something like this with brass instruments on your channel if you ever get the Ebay bug!
@@InstrumentManiac Oh, I've got the bug. All I need is the budget!
I totally agree, you dont need the perfect instrument, the only instrument in your collection that should be as close as you can get to perfect is your main instrument, if you have one.
3:00 Dude dont do that you give me flashbacks from when the lock on my bassoon broke off a few days ago.
Functional bassoon for that price is very lucky. I bought what I and the seller thought was a model IV FOX for $1,500 which is a bargain, but it in rreality it was a Fox Model 1 tenor joint with a model 41 body. It plays well, so the seller gave back $300 and I accepted it and play it as my picnic instrument saving my Heckel from outdoor damage. Get a Heckel bocal and see if improves sound and intonation.
This is a great video keep up the good work!
Man, I've always wanted to try a bassoon, didn't realize there were bassoons that were that cheap.
Please dont give me ideas, my wallet is really vulnerable right now
Haha right!? I didn't either, but definitely a risky investment.
Probably better to rent a decent one for awhile before pulling the ultimate risk 😆
You sound great congratulations! Not sure if anyone else has said this, but please try to get a replacement boot cap though if you haven’t already. I worry that the u-tube(yes that’s the real name lol) on the boot joint might get dented and otherwise damaged without it.
Keep enjoying your bassoon! It makes me so sad that so many bassoons are so expensive. What I don’t understand is why other instrument makers like yamaha make affordable student instruments but not the bassoon.
Congratulations again! So happy I found this video.
The U-tube... I can't even 😂 incredible... thanks for the advice will do!
I agree, I hope yamaha realizes some day there is totally an open spot in the market for a reasonably affordable resin instrument. The student bass clarinet plays great for example and it's perfect for doubling!
@@InstrumentManiac I wish I was kidding about the U-tube being a fake name but it's real! And yes for a reasonable resin instrument becoming available. I keep saying "if you build it they will come" as far as a market goes...but sadly there's still not enough people in the right places to actually follow through. I'll keep advocating though!
@@InstrumentManiac I suspect that the biggest drawback to trying to make a reasonably affordable bassoon is the bocal. There's no way to make that 'simple, cheap, and good' - even though it doesn't appear that complicated. That and unlike most instruments, the pieces have to be made to sandwich together properly. That, combined with the low numbers of people willing to play "the big kazoo" as well as the ongoing expense of the reeds (I recommend plastic reeds for someone starting out - they aren't the best, but they'll last), makes it not wonderful.
keep in mind that oboe has the same issue with no really inexpensive options
The bassoon is one of those instruments that if you but a cheap one it will sound like the dead lights from it (hurdy hurry as the best example)
I played a rental Linton in High School. Just bought the identical one, a black composite Linton on Ebay. It was brand new but from tracing the serial number it was probably made in the same batch as my high school rental. I think it sounds great! My teacher, the principal bassoonist for LPO has put the bocal from his gazillion $ Henkel into my Linton - when he plays it the sound is wonderful!!! So I know the potential to sound great is there. Also, living in New Orleans, the humidity really affects wooden instruments, so the composite makes sense. Is the one you're playing wooden?? It looks great! It has the lump in the top section - something mine lacks.
Very interesting! I think that's the case for a lot of old "student" instruments. They can actually sound pretty dang good when they are fully fixed with the right setup. Glad to hear yours is working well!
The cover at the end had me floored! So, like, are we getting married soon, or nah? Love your channel.
I played a bundy alto sax for years. Always loved it.
Having been playing a Linton bassoon ever since I picked up the instrument, I have to agree about the tuning. After doing some research, I found some alternate note fingerings to stabilize the tone. Overall it doesn't really matter what bassoon you choose, it's the player that makes the instrument sound best.
Always been my dream to learn such an instrument. My sisters as children were given from school clarinets to learn. They just learned thee very very basics and hardly touched them. When I asked my parents: No! only girls play those. For a ten year old I was devasted. I knew I could learn them; appreciate an instrument. Such a beautiful sound the Bassoon makes.
I'm hearing issues with the instrument, but what I'm thinking is 1) if it's wood, make sure to oil it. 2) I think a couple of the pads are leaking air. It could be a slightly bent key.
Oh okay I hear Linton and immediately thought of the scary student plastic ones. The wooden ones are like you said the "bundy" of Bassoons not bad but not good.
It is true that Linton has gotten a bad reputation in the past. I have a plastic Linton bassoon which I use for outdoor concerts. However, with decent reeds and an excellent bocal the instrument plays pretty well.
Interesting man I don't know this instrument until I watch your video
Playing a bassoon or oboe sounds so hard to do. props to you bro
I play on a wooden Jupiter clarinet, it’s my first wooden clarinet I bought on my own, it’s not a buffet R13 but I sound a lot better than the r13s in my community band, I have a warm dark tone and it cost half the money of brand new r 13 and has an extra eflat key. It’s made from China but hey it works for me and it sounds amazing. So yeah you don’t need a top brand name instrument to play amazing, also I started on a selmers 300 clarinet and loved it.
Great story thanks for sharing Koby!
You’re marvelous. The world should know you better.
D'aww!
I'm so happy for you! Also a little jealous.
Thanks Rae!
Seeing whats considered as a winter storm in Minnesota is funny bc here in northern Canada that's the closest thing we get to a clear day
Thanks for another good one!
Thanks for watching!
If you were to add to the arrangement a treble recorder part, tightly composed, complex and played deftly and quickly, you would have something approaching a classic piece by prog-folk band, Gryphon.
I'm new here. My first question is, which instrument are you not able to play? hahaha :) Really cool channel! I'm looking forward to play another member of the wood instrument family soon.
Welcome to the Bandwagon! Haha many of them... mainly piano.
Good luck on your woodwind adventure!
Great video, I love your channel! Although I hate to break it to you but it isn't always winter in Minnesota... (I've lived in MN my whole life)
It's like the Jupiter student flutes. They have multiple grades even within that existing category and you can get some fairly inexpensive Jupiter brand flutes that sound quite lovely. Are they as nice as a $8-15k flute? No, they're not, but they're still lovely in their own right. My sister just picked one up to use until she gets around to getting her much nicer flute repadded and it has a fantastic mellow quality to the sound, which makes it very enjoyable to listen to. It's less bright compared to her other flute which is sterling and open-hole, which means it wouldn't be ideal for a first flute or a solo, but that's perfectly fine if all you really want it for is to practice with so you can maintain your embouchure. Apparently that slightly darker, more mellow sound is indicative of Jupiter flutes, which I really don't think is such a bad thing.
I’d love to play the bassoon! My school band program has it but alas has no reeds due to the cost. Currently playing a clarinet, which I enjoy, but I’d definitely love the bassoon.
Edit: It’s me from the future! I bought bassoon reeds and a case and they should arrive this week.
wow so much to say. The first time you played it I was still a bit skeptical as the tone was very bad (no offense). the second time however the tone was solid and I was delightfully surprised how well this cheap bassoon plays with some work. As a bassoonist I would recommend getting a lock so the wing and long joint don't separate. A boot cap would also be good but it seems the seat strap remedy that came with the bassoon works just fine. Truly amazing on your part. I just want to say that buying a bassoon on ebay is not a good Idea for new players as It can be the source for a lot of frustration down the road and put a cap on how well you can play, which is never good. For some short solos by a great musician though very smooth and very good tone.
I enjoyed your bassoon journey! I also bought a bass clarinet off eBay and it is probably not the best but is decent and does the job as well! Only thing is it's not a low c so I can't hit high notes but it's a decent student model! You can find some good stuff on ebay! Enjoyed watching this!
Glad to hear your story too Brandon! I think it's important to share these since there is always such a frenzy for "expensive" instruments.
I'm becoming more and more of an Ebay convert every year 😄
@@InstrumentManiac so am I! You're right it's good to share and like you said you don't always need an expensive instrument to enjoy it and for playing well! :)
Darn. You're giving me the courage to buy a cheap bassoon now. Dude. I have too much now, including an Eigenharp Tau.
I'm from Italy and I'm a Bassoonist, I've never heard about Linton. I think it is important to make the bassoon known and let everyone have the opportunity to try it and study it without having to spend 1000€
0:03 Jesus christ, mate. His biceps have the size of my thighs. 😂
Luke is greater than Theo Plath (Bassoonist). Bravo
Nice bassoon! A cheap bassoon is not necessarily bad. It will never be a Heckel, how could it, but it is still nice instrument, has a really good price / value ratio, and you could certainly play the Mozart concerto on it. Most issues could probably be fixed by an overhaul.
I got my Schreiber for 1500 Euro (~1800 USD) + 1000 CHF (~1100 USD) full overhaul. Also got a new bocal, which really wasn't necessary, but I saw a copper bocal and couldn't resist. Usually they are silver, some gold plated, but copper, all bassoonists I showed it to, were surprised and haven't seen one before. I'm happy with the bassoon and will never sell it, even if I buy that dream Heckel one day :)
Great to hear!
Congrats!
Thanks bud hope you're doing well!
1:08 for Luke’s non musical flex lol
SERIOUSLY! I don’t want to downplay this man’s other gifts because he’s wildly talented, entertaining, and soothing to listen to but my gosh he’s in good shape. I’m impressed he has time to make multitrack videos and work out.
😂🙏🙏
@@InstrumentManiac what can I say? I enjoy watching your videos. 😇 I am also a multi-instrumentalist and a high school music teacher but not quite so easy on the eyes. Keep up the good work!
As a bassoon fan, this warms my heart
Great video, you definitely are a musical chameleon! Interesting info and fabulous 1970’s elevator music at the end, to remind me of my childhood 🥰. Subscribed 😊
I’ve always wanted to play the bassoon!
My bass clarinet is a bundy and it sounds great!
Cheap Bassoon was my nickname in college.
I don't know why I'm here. Thanks algorithm. Out of curiosity, I checked the link for reeds. Counting inflation the price is slightly better than I was paying as a student 60 years ago when Willard Elliot was with the Dallas Symphony and making reeds.
Intonation is always tricky. I keep looking for a Holton Farkas double horn, but that’s going to run $4k to $6k. Should have never sold mine after college.
I liked the weird eye looks when sonic started 😂
Similar experience with a Chinese made bassoon whose scale was "distempered". However the real reason I clicked is the muscle shirt and jeans. THAT was worth it.
Thank you 😂
When does the big instrument collection video of 2021 come?
in 2 weeks!
Congratulations! Now you too can play the entire soundtrack of Ivor the Engine.
You are my favorite musician ever!!
Also, is there a major sound difference between a wooden bassoon and a plastic one?
Aw thanks EZ! Unfortunately there is a pretty large difference. Cheaper plastic instruments can't resonate the same way as wood does and it often ends up sounding muffled or "plastic-y". But if that's all you have access to it's a good way to practice until finding a cheaper wooden one some day 😊
@@InstrumentManiac thanks! That's good to know! :D
Wow!
It could stand to go in for a checkup to get the keys aligned and repadded as necessary and to service it, but overall it seems like a perfectly fine bassoon. Maybe not quite as loud as you might prefer for a concert instrument, but that's really hard to tell from a video like this and it is also not nearly so important for your needs. It makes nice doot doot noises so you're good.
This dude works out
That is cool!
Hi I have a question do you play a bass clarinet I know you play a Contrabass clarinet but I love the clarinet family
Watch this vid 😉 th-cam.com/video/i_7bLbrbz-k/w-d-xo.html
@@InstrumentManiac cool video but what do you play
Nice!
Whatever you are doing it is remarkable on you budget..
I bought one and it need new pad when I bought it. But I just need a different vocal for it.
Are we going to see this in any Thomas videos?
Maybe not now, bassoon!!
:P
I'd guess that we have been seeing it in Thomas videos already if he got it in April. Perhaps he can clarify which ones in particular.
Yes for sure! Should be in a theme I release in March :)
You crazy guy and because off you are funny!
I personally don’t think Bundy is crap because my trombone is a Bundy, with really decent tone and a very big difference in projection compared to my school’s Yamaha trombone
Clicks because I'm horrified at both the thumbnail and the title
And what brand is the bassoon you played in the video? I'm thinking of getting a selmer 1432b, what do you think?
haha, two weeks later... but you disappoint me Luke, where is the.. CONTRABASS Bassoon 😂
RIGHT!? No instrument collection is complete without a contrabasson 😆
If you thought bassoons were expensive, wait until you see contras. Easily above the price of a moderate size car
Chines maple wood basson on UK ebay rated by seller teacher (not me!) as good as much more costly french instrument. The chinese produce what buyers are prepared to pay for.
Are bassoons a woodwind instrument?
Yes. They are played with a double reed
@@nebulyra_chan cool thanks
I always wanted to play the bassoon
awesome
What type of wooden bassoon would you suggest--a relatively inexpensive one, that is?
It's honestly rolling a dice. Your best bet is to keep an eye on ebay for a cheaper wooden one from a seller that has good ratings. That was my strategy for this one.
Brilliant
I learned an important lesson after 4:54: Don't buy things from people who seem... who seems... "Eccentric".
That's so funny how the bassoon came with pictures of a crazy instrument guy. Remind you of anyone you know?
Still holdin' those claves like that, huh? Great video; makes me want a bassoon, too. Guess I'll check out eBay. (Oh, the "sousaphone" in the photo seems to be a helicon.)
Hey as long as they make sound who cares! Also you should totally go the bassoon route 👏
Our band has already seen three musicians of other instruments take up the bassoon.
The last couple of times the economy crashed I bought a Polisi, and then a Puchner bassoon on eBay for about $1,500 each.
i am currently in sixth grade im switching from clarinet to bassoon what are some tips and tricks to do and also is this a good investment overall
Bundys are great and durable.
Good video. I know nothing about Linton. However, as a school music teacher for 40 years, I do have experience with Bundy, Selmer's student line. They are easy to play although they have some tuning issues. Most beginners also have tuning issues so that is not a real problem. They are also well made and stand up to the casual abuse that elementary and middle school musicians subject their instruments to. They are not artist instruments, but they work for the students they are designed for. I suspect that there are many high school and college musicians who use Bundy instruments for marching band and other less that friendly environments. You are impressive in playing so many instruments.
I know nothing about bassoons but still interesting
I tried a couple of bassoons in my lifetime. It’s a very hard instrument plus the fingering is complicated