I really like the idea of swappable connectors. Also I appreciate that both the connectors and terminations are screw on. I have tried cables with friction fit swappable terminations, and they tend to get loose overtime. 👏👏
The cables are good for sure, but I don't pay more that 50 bucks in a cable. It seems that companies try to increase the profit margin in a very big way on products like cables.
I think there are some ways a cable can affect the sound of an IEM in one's ears: The cable's construction (thickness, stiffness, etc.) can affect fit and that may change how tight the IEM seals, how deep it sits in your ear (to get a comfortable fit), which will change FR. A microphonic cable may lead to less perceived bass because the microphonic noise interferes with the bass of the music. And of course, knowing that your cable is made out of premium materials with fancy braiding techniques makes you feel good. That placebo effect can make you enjoy your music more.
I’m with you there. I actually like the small mic/controller that Tripowin puts on their cables like Grace. It’s small enough in both diameter and length that it doesn’t get caught on your shirt, bind up when wrapping the cable, or really ever get in the way. I know that a lot of mics are too big and will get in the way at some point, but small ones are really handy.
I have the gramr and it’s a nice cable, but the 2 pin connectors are hella loose. It works fine normally but with the mic attached, the right item gets disconnected all the time.
Jimmy. The cables were my wish list for swappable heads and tails. Question: the lightning & the usb-c plug ones, does it mean it has a DAC built-in? 🤔
All lightning/type C terminated IEMs should have a DAC in the plug. They can be made very small but the quality of those DACs aren't the best - but they get the job done.
@@housepianist the USB standard does support analog audio, oddly enough. It's quite an obscure spec though, and usually low quality (too close to data), so it's probably not the case here.
This is great, my major complaint is finding a cable I really love and then having to re-purchase it for a different connector or termination if I swap IEMs/devices. My favourite feature of the Raptgo Hook X is that it came with every termination that I need but having the connectors would be amazing too.
The thing you forget is the colour of the cable makes a huge difference. Silver cables sound brighter, black cables sound darker and red cables sound warmer. Forget about EQ. If you want to change the sound just change the cable colour.
I just got the Ares in an 8 core configuration and ordered the TermX expecting them to be compatible, but they are not. Just a forewarning for anyone thinking along the same lines as me. The stock termination on the 8 core is soldered and hot glued in place, not sure about the stock termination on the 4 core. I'll have to get one to see.
From what I had tried, the difference between the 8 core and 4 core of OCC silver plated copper cables was the sound a little bit louder. Apart from that it looks prettier and stronger .In term of the durability , I live in Thailand which is hot and humid, so the cables normally last long only 2 year. That is what I know.
Yeah...no. As much as it is nice to have this kind of quality cable with interchangeable connectors, its price is a little to steep. Wait a couple of more months (maybe not that long to begin with especially with the fast moving pace of the IEM industry) and a budget brand will eventually release interchangeable connectors down the line (looking at QKZ). That price does not justify the utility it provides. It costs as much as or even more than your average IEM.
really wish i could grab the cadmus for my not-yet-shipped aful performer 5, but sadly they don't ship to the uk :( hopefully the distribution policy changes in the future
very expensive cables that are very heavy and on top of that have memory you are better buying cheaper cables like Kbear 8 or 17 core that are extremely soft and light without any memory for the same amount of money you can buy 10 of those cables or buy several Gucraftsman cables very light and very durable cables too i spend so much money on expensive cables over 2500 Euro and i don't use even 1 of them i haven't seen cable yet that is soft and light as Kbear 8 or 16 Core and Gucraftsman btw TRI Starsea comes with 8 Core Kbear cable branded as TRI of course and it's a much better cable then many $500+ cables i've seen
If anyone is lookin for a kickass swappable cable look no further than the QKZ Q1 MAX. Love this cable and was only 13.99 during 1111 sale but even now I'm guessin it's under 20 bucks!!!!
hey what do you think about jadeaudio ea1 I have not seen a review from you and what is your reccomendation for me, I generally listen bass songs at the highest volume but sometimes kinda enstrumental and vocal as well, wan'er 7hz cca cra are options
To be honest it can change the sound performance for some iems. In my case my iem shipped with a shitty cable (ca ara ) and upgrading the cable made all the difference I went from good details to great details also the sound stage increased considerably I have the ares 2+ from effect audio
Really like the swappable terminator/connector and general aesthetic but the both the cable and conX/termX accessories price are a bit too much. Would have been insta-buy for me if the complete package is under 100-150 USD instead of the 200 USD Cable + 80 USD Accessories. Well I would not mind spending more for cable if all the fairy tales marketing about sound quality improvements are legit.
Generally, cables don't produce any additional sound quality benefit. Generally, what you are paying for usually is the texture, stiffness and durability. E.g. Some cables are a devil for having additional resistance or are really stiff and have a lot of memory in them.
While its really cool to be able to swap connectors and all...when you take into consideration that most cables don't change the sound THAT MUCH... it ends up being cheaper to buy separate $25-50 cables for each connector you want...of which you'll have more choice of thickness and colour if you care. Just my two cents This is still too pricey for what the end product is.
You brought up a very controversial topic. I respect both sides of opinions. Normally I don't perceive any difference at all but sometimes I just hear a marginal difference between certain cables and IEMs. I also did a blind test to confirm my perception wasn't psychoacoustics, which I passed. Tonality or FR don't matter in my opinion since it was more intangible like the soundstage and transparency.
I got the Eros s for my anole vx. Excellent cable with conx connectors ie, easy to swap between mmcx and 2 pin. It definitely enhanced the overall sound quality of the iems. Go with the eros s its the best in the lineup
@@airvinzis9748 thanks for you advice, brother. I want it for my Monarch MKIIs (it doesn’t match in the slightest with the colors but whatever). I like the fact that I can swap connectors - that’s pretty damn cool
Regardless if it "improves" the sound or not... Wire gauges(mass or strands) of copper wire and its insulation(thickness) does change sound comparatively. This is a fact and there is no arguing about it. If you're really interested, go read about Resistance, Capacitance, and Impedance. Whether if you can hear the difference or not, it depends on how different the cables you are testing(how much more copper one has over another), how good your speakers(IEMs) reproduce frequencies, and how good your ears are(both physically and neurally). All that being said, I think it's probably snake oil if you're paying +100bucks prices for cables unless you really like how it looks and feels.
I've just received the Eros a few days before. The quality of this cable is outstanding. After a few hours of burn-in, it really reveals the quality of your iems, with more clarity, better timbral accuracy, tight bass, a rich medium and a non-fatiguing treeble. Highly recommended :-)
@@markn866 I'm pretty sure they will say these effects can't be measured. I know a common defence people like to use is measurements don't only "not work" for cables but also do not work for certain drivers, like the bone-conducting drivers that UM and EE offer. But people can notice the effect of bone-conducting drivers, so measurements do not mean all (trust me, I hear this statement multiple times already). But these cables surely look premium - and people don't only buy cables for sound quality but also for looks, and usability (plugs). Some companies offer low-quality stock cables too, like 64 audio.
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I really like the idea of swappable connectors. Also I appreciate that both the connectors and terminations are screw on. I have tried cables with friction fit swappable terminations, and they tend to get loose overtime. 👏👏
The cables are good for sure, but I don't pay more that 50 bucks in a cable. It seems that companies try to increase the profit margin in a very big way on products like cables.
Same, for me I wont pay more than the $60-70 a Kinera Leyding cable costs
expensive cables shine with TOTL IEMs
I had the Dignis Hako case and can contains 1 DAP (Cayin n6ii Titanium) with other 4 iems all together with cable attached to them.
$200 for cable? No, thanks
I've been telling people about this dude. He's a generic know nothing idiot that happens to have the money to afford expensive things from rich dad.
Yup Nobody can really afford that nobody is 24/7 listener
We are different than what actually the reviewer thinks
No cable should ever cost $200, especially when $200 gets you a really good IEM these days
@@contrarian2496 LOL cables costs $1000 of dollars
But who even buys them? No one
@@Smzxe right, I’ve never seen anyone with a cable that costs more than $120
I think there are some ways a cable can affect the sound of an IEM in one's ears:
The cable's construction (thickness, stiffness, etc.) can affect fit and that may change how tight the IEM seals, how deep it sits in your ear (to get a comfortable fit), which will change FR.
A microphonic cable may lead to less perceived bass because the microphonic noise interferes with the bass of the music.
And of course, knowing that your cable is made out of premium materials with fancy braiding techniques makes you feel good. That placebo effect can make you enjoy your music more.
I hope cables with mics get more love in the future - Kinera's Gramr is on my list, but I'm hoping more options become available soon...
I’m with you there. I actually like the small mic/controller that Tripowin puts on their cables like Grace. It’s small enough in both diameter and length that it doesn’t get caught on your shirt, bind up when wrapping the cable, or really ever get in the way. I know that a lot of mics are too big and will get in the way at some point, but small ones are really handy.
I have the gramr and it’s a nice cable, but the 2 pin connectors are hella loose. It works fine normally but with the mic attached, the right item gets disconnected all the time.
How much soundstage increase can I expect from the case? (Jk)
Lmao
Jimmy. The cables were my wish list for swappable heads and tails.
Question: the lightning & the usb-c plug ones, does it mean it has a DAC built-in? 🤔
probably not, it may just be an adapter
they will have probably DAC, my guess is at least in lightning one there will be C100... don't expect any good DAC in it
All lightning/type C terminated IEMs should have a DAC in the plug. They can be made very small but the quality of those DACs aren't the best - but they get the job done.
@@housepianist the USB standard does support analog audio, oddly enough. It's quite an obscure spec though, and usually low quality (too close to data), so it's probably not the case here.
This is great, my major complaint is finding a cable I really love and then having to re-purchase it for a different connector or termination if I swap IEMs/devices. My favourite feature of the Raptgo Hook X is that it came with every termination that I need but having the connectors would be amazing too.
The thing you forget is the colour of the cable makes a huge difference. Silver cables sound brighter, black cables sound darker and red cables sound warmer. Forget about EQ. If you want to change the sound just change the cable colour.
Lmao
Very cool to have both ends swappable, but kinda expensive to me...
Love these. Wish the cable came in black as 8ts more discrete and can be easily worn at work.
I'd really want to replace 2-pin and MMCX with a magnetic connector. Haven't seen any company try that yet.
I just got the Ares in an 8 core configuration and ordered the TermX expecting them to be compatible, but they are not. Just a forewarning for anyone thinking along the same lines as me. The stock termination on the 8 core is soldered and hot glued in place, not sure about the stock termination on the 4 core. I'll have to get one to see.
damnit, I've been super tempted to pick these up for a while now.
will the Cadmus make a great pairing with the Sennheiser ie900?
One 2 pin on left side, mmcx on right side.
two different iems with each 🤣
Like Timeless og and timeless AE
From what I had tried, the difference between the 8 core and 4 core of OCC silver plated copper cables was the sound a little bit louder. Apart from that it looks prettier and stronger .In term of the durability , I live in Thailand which is hot and humid, so the cables normally last long only 2 year. That is what I know.
i once compared 4 and 8 core Ares 2, the 4 core has good bass, the 8 core has cannon bass, quite scary first time i listened to it....
Yeah...no. As much as it is nice to have this kind of quality cable with interchangeable connectors, its price is a little to steep. Wait a couple of more months (maybe not that long to begin with especially with the fast moving pace of the IEM industry) and a budget brand will eventually release interchangeable connectors down the line (looking at QKZ).
That price does not justify the utility it provides. It costs as much as or even more than your average IEM.
I thumbed up right after I saw 6:44 I want some of that "Platinum" 2
Finally someone understands lol
really wish i could grab the cadmus for my not-yet-shipped aful performer 5, but sadly they don't ship to the uk :( hopefully the distribution policy changes in the future
Do we have a microphone in any of these cables?
very expensive cables that are very heavy and on top of that have memory you are better buying cheaper cables like Kbear 8 or 17 core that are extremely soft and light without any memory for the same amount of money you can buy 10 of those cables or buy several Gucraftsman cables very light and very durable cables too i spend so much money on expensive cables over 2500 Euro and i don't use even 1 of them i haven't seen cable yet that is soft and light as Kbear 8 or 16 Core and Gucraftsman
btw TRI Starsea comes with 8 Core Kbear cable branded as TRI of course and it's a much better cable then many $500+ cables i've seen
Swappable connectors can create a point of failure.
Have you tried graphene or teflon cables that have lower Dielectric Constant?
If anyone is lookin for a kickass swappable cable look no further than the QKZ Q1 MAX. Love this cable and was only 13.99 during 1111 sale but even now I'm guessin it's under 20 bucks!!!!
Nice. They have ipx for my westone earphones
hey what do you think about jadeaudio ea1 I have not seen a review from you and what is your reccomendation for me, I generally listen bass songs at the highest volume but sometimes kinda enstrumental and vocal as well, wan'er 7hz cca cra are options
checked the link on Hifigo and it the first product I have seen there where it wont ship to UK or HK, shame as I really like the idea of the cable.
Effect Audio's main website has them as well
Wow…great versatility IEM cable
To be honest it can change the sound performance for some iems. In my case my iem shipped with a shitty cable (ca ara ) and upgrading the cable made all the difference I went from good details to great details also the sound stage increased considerably I have the ares 2+ from effect audio
This is all placebo.
It's a great idea but that price is not
Moondrop quarks DSP review please!
does this work with moondrop's recessed pin connetions?
you're in japan right Timmy, then the next should be wagnus cable and Brise. Very curious!
¡Aficionados! 😃
is 4.4mm plug can fit into my smartphome?
no
Which one pairs best with monarch mk2 in your opinion?
if there will be a gold cable that would be overkill 💀💀💀
Cables change the timing. Just like people say a planar is faster. It’s the same concept with high quality OCC cables.
Really like the swappable terminator/connector and general aesthetic but the both the cable and conX/termX accessories price are a bit too much.
Would have been insta-buy for me if the complete package is under 100-150 USD instead of the 200 USD Cable + 80 USD Accessories.
Well I would not mind spending more for cable if all the fairy tales marketing about sound quality improvements are legit.
Generally, cables don't produce any additional sound quality benefit. Generally, what you are paying for usually is the texture, stiffness and durability. E.g. Some cables are a devil for having additional resistance or are really stiff and have a lot of memory in them.
Love the concept but for they are just to expensive
Maybe my opinion will change when my iem collection becomes bigger
While its really cool to be able to swap connectors and all...when you take into consideration that most cables don't change the sound THAT MUCH... it ends up being cheaper to buy separate $25-50 cables for each connector you want...of which you'll have more choice of thickness and colour if you care. Just my two cents
This is still too pricey for what the end product is.
Prices are stupid.
Now let the cable wars in the comment section begin.
I have to say, different cables might not show distinct changes on a graph but in listening, I notice a massive difference.
i, personally, as a non cable believer that just tested hundred to thousand bucks of cables that my friend "creates" really agree to this statement
You brought up a very controversial topic. I respect both sides of opinions. Normally I don't perceive any difference at all but sometimes I just hear a marginal difference between certain cables and IEMs. I also did a blind test to confirm my perception wasn't psychoacoustics, which I passed. Tonality or FR don't matter in my opinion since it was more intangible like the soundstage and transparency.
This happens with IEMs with low impedances due to the output impedance of the cable becoming a factor
ayoooo🥶
Way too expensive brah
Man, I’ve wanted the Eros for the past month or so. I’m trying to justify spending the $250 within my self, and Jesus - is that hard 😅
I got the Eros s for my anole vx. Excellent cable with conx connectors ie, easy to swap between mmcx and 2 pin. It definitely enhanced the overall sound quality of the iems. Go with the eros s its the best in the lineup
@@airvinzis9748 thanks for you advice, brother. I want it for my Monarch MKIIs (it doesn’t match in the slightest with the colors but whatever). I like the fact that I can swap connectors - that’s pretty damn cool
has science gone too far?
Dunu does it even the USB c and lightning but not the 2pin part. Sorry I have something against effect
Dunu has usb C cables?
Regardless if it "improves" the sound or not... Wire gauges(mass or strands) of copper wire and its insulation(thickness) does change sound comparatively.
This is a fact and there is no arguing about it.
If you're really interested, go read about Resistance, Capacitance, and Impedance.
Whether if you can hear the difference or not, it depends on how different the cables you are testing(how much more copper one has over another), how good your speakers(IEMs) reproduce frequencies, and how good your ears are(both physically and neurally).
All that being said, I think it's probably snake oil if you're paying +100bucks prices for cables unless you really like how it looks and feels.
First?
OWO cable video 😍
Bro?
I've just received the Eros a few days before. The quality of this cable is outstanding. After a few hours of burn-in, it really reveals the quality of your iems, with more clarity, better timbral accuracy, tight bass, a rich medium and a non-fatiguing treeble. Highly recommended :-)
"Burn in" 💀
Placebo effect?
How did you conclude this, did you take measurements before and after the "burn in"? Or is this confirmation bias?
@@markn866 I'm pretty sure they will say these effects can't be measured. I know a common defence people like to use is measurements don't only "not work" for cables but also do not work for certain drivers, like the bone-conducting drivers that UM and EE offer. But people can notice the effect of bone-conducting drivers, so measurements do not mean all (trust me, I hear this statement multiple times already).
But these cables surely look premium - and people don't only buy cables for sound quality but also for looks, and usability (plugs). Some companies offer low-quality stock cables too, like 64 audio.
at this point, non detachable cables are like really pathetic
Not at all when they're 20% the cost of this^
When you make a vid so you can get free stuff and push affiliate links but you’re too ashamed to mention the price… 🤔
People gotta eat.. are you gonna put food on Timmy's table?
Music at the end very bad
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