Thx for sharing, I started tree climbing also on later age and am still learning. Remember with a downward notch (Humbolt) will result in a slide of the upper log when cut, it will then fall backwards..
Terry you do a great job of teaching. I have learned a great deal of good things and safety tips from your videos. Thank you for sharing these videos with me You have definitely saved me a lot of grief.
I did the same thing last week but managed to get my saw pinched first. It took me around 15 minutes to cut it free and with all the neighbours watching, the crown fell the wrong way and gave me a near shave. I thought, How would Terry Hale handle this? Well done for always staying so calm. You are a master, sir.
That's a tough one Terry. I notice that the more difficult the cut, the more anxious I am to get it over with. An instinctive reaction, but the wrong one. Problem is, when you work by yourself, once you make the cut, you are committed... I always work with a friend and talk through each cut, he supervises me from the ground. We tend to rope the awkward branches, and then my colleague can put tension on them, whilst I cut. I had a main stem drop like that 3 years ago. I put a cut in it and it didn't move. I stupidly put a second cut in it higher up (Working from a scaffold tower), when I put the second cut in the tree dropped vertical, like your branch in about 0.5 seconds. I passing branch took off my helmet and chainsaw. Nearly took my head off over the top scaffold bar. I was pretty shaken...
Another thing that may help terry is when you did your back cut you had the saw cutting more on the hinge side away from you if holding wood left in the hinge is towards you the fibres pull the tree towards you not away from you. Basic stuff you may know
It happened to me even had a pull line but the ground guy could not pull enough he rocked the hinge and it broke. It hit me but I was not hurt much. Now I use a english truckers hitch to help the ground guy or the winch on my mini garbage truck. I cut too much holding wood. The face cut should have been a traditional notch the other style makes it fall down expecially when you step the notch.
Luc Id agree that the saw was being forced too much at times but I cant see why anyone would usefully need to double wrap the lanyard in that situation. To what end? The supporting stem was in no danger of splitting out. If in doubt, 'go higher and cut smaller'. Glad you lived to learn from that Terry :-) !
Double wrapping means that with the same flip line you go around an extra loop (let s prétend that the tree is 12'inches.you form à loop that is16inches and hold it open with your two hands as you climb à limb les s tree or pôle because we do not always climb with back up (throw Line used)double wrapping chokes tree if you gaff out (do not mixt with circle of death )keep comments coming if you have questions
Climbing without a backup safety line, double wrapping would definitely make sense. In my lifetime, I do not think I will ever climb without a safety line, even if it requires the tedious work of moving it up as I go.
using a chainsaw at such close proximety to the face with the chance of kickback could result in a really bad accident.Always use the saw from the side on-get into the habit of attaining a work position that allows you use the chainsaw with both hands,and at 45° to the body.
Love the hitch hiker! my go to on pine removals. No sure if that carribeaner you used to choke off the stem was steel. But i have seen the aluminum one flex when choked off like that. The say that you can sideload it, I still run a carribeaner, shackle is just way too much work.
Dear Mr Hale, please do not cut with a chainsaw "over the height of your head" and please do not cut that close to a rope - especially when cutting in an angle around the stem of a tree, and you can not see the rope. You are too prescious.... Kind regards and thank you for your very carefully made videos!!! Greetings fom germany!
Robert, I actually surveyed the tree and found its height to be 83 feet; tall, but not a monster by any means. I figure I was up about 65 feet. The wide angle lens on the GoPro makes it look higher.
I think you need to keep a bit calmer, you way overreacted when the branch came down. lol, "ah well" , made my day. (sarcasm of course, the overreacted part, not the made my day part)
get this tool: ISC308 - ISC D4 Work Rescue Descender. Not only will it be useful in emergency situations (like the one-armed bandit you seem to insist on becoming), but also in normal descent. Also, your heart and vascular system would be under much less stress.
Thanks for the recommendation. There are so many good devices to choose from. I'm happy so far with the Hitchhiker and the holster to advance it. Less so with the SpiderJack 2.1. The D4 does look like a good tool for rescue work.
Love your videos and have learned a lot from them. But... my understanding of OSHA regs require for climbs over 12' a second climber be present and a full body harness
Try not to do a lot of hoping for the best. I have watched you for some time, your videos are good and I always take something positive away from watching you. You have the knowledge to understand how to make happen what you want, I think you are rushing through things because you want to get things over with. Please slow down and make happen what you already know how to do, weather it’s climbing higher to take a smaller more controllable top. Getting some space in between you and the tree wile cutting. Practice on the ground and then replicate what you are doing in the tree. Be more efficient, dont let your saw hang, a falling top may grab it, hook it to your saddle. Dont cut towards your climb line. And most of all keep climbing, its good for you.
I left the rope up there to finish the chunking down the next day. This particular tree was a stone's throw from my house and there was no danger of anyone climbing the tree to steal the rope.
Man...I love your videos. Your knowledge base is extensive and as a seasoned climber, I still learn from these clips. However, your practical application of the topics in your videos leaves a lot to be desired. I don't say this out of a desire to be offensive, rather I fear for your safety. You can accomplish more by sharing your knowledge via lecture and graphics....all that shiny new equipment is gonna get you in a lot of trouble.
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, my climbing abilities are pretty poor. Good thing I'm not trying to make a living at it. I dismantle a few trees each year, just because I enjoy it. I'm trying to concentrate on folks who can't easily afford to pay.
you should try an ms201tc-m it is a way better saw and the difference may suprise you. My ms201 gave me nothing but trouble. I can hear the same lack of power in your saw
I use an Onyx saddle when not using climbing spurs. The saddle in this video was my first. It was a convenient purchase, made without much insight. I'm trying to get my money out of it when climbing on spikes.
"Old and sick" doesn't have anything to do with ambition. "Old and sick" means the amount of oxygen the worker can process will determine how long the worker can stay on the job. Until you actually are in that situation, comprehension will elude you. You should follow me around. At least Terry, here, doesn't forget if he's going up the tree or down it.
I'll work on developing a gentle touch for those critical situations. I seldom see a double wrap used and would expect it to be hard to advance. Under what circumstances do you consider a double wrap to be appropriate?
Alternately you could add a twist in your lanyard. My coworker tells me about it in my "first in-tree takedown" video, works well and is easier to work with than double wrapping.
The Onyx is a really nice saddle from a company called New Tribe. It has nice large, independent thigh supports so that your legs are not forced together. My older saddle was bothering me that way this evening.
sorry pressed wrong button the goal about thèse comments is to éducate anyone concerne about safety mr halle as been such à great help in m'y développement that I cannot let him without any advices for his on good thanks
I definitely need to work on that: Get into a good stable position where I don't need to one-hand it. Also, stop the cut and finish with the much less dangerous hand saw.
because you are a novice climber you have to be careful about using bad techniques you can very quickly become dependent on them if you never develop the proper skills
Thx for sharing, I started tree climbing also on later age and am still learning. Remember with a downward notch (Humbolt) will result in a slide of the upper log when cut, it will then fall backwards..
Terry you do a great job of teaching. I have learned a great deal of good things and safety tips from your videos. Thank you for sharing these videos with me You have definitely saved me a lot of grief.
Glad to hear it. Thanks, Dave.
Rule #1: Never cut off the branch that your standing on. I learned that from Wile E. Coyote
I did the same thing last week but managed to get my saw pinched first. It took me around 15 minutes to cut it free and with all the neighbours watching, the crown fell the wrong way and gave me a near shave. I thought, How would Terry Hale handle this?
Well done for always staying so calm. You are a master, sir.
"I meant to do that!" ha ha
That's a tough one Terry. I notice that the more difficult the cut, the more anxious I am to get it over with. An instinctive reaction, but the wrong one. Problem is, when you work by yourself, once you make the cut, you are committed... I always work with a friend and talk through each cut, he supervises me from the ground. We tend to rope the awkward branches, and then my colleague can put tension on them, whilst I cut.
I had a main stem drop like that 3 years ago. I put a cut in it and it didn't move. I stupidly put a second cut in it higher up (Working from a scaffold tower), when I put the second cut in the tree dropped vertical, like your branch in about 0.5 seconds. I passing branch took off my helmet and chainsaw. Nearly took my head off over the top scaffold bar. I was pretty shaken...
Another thing that may help terry is when you did your back cut you had the saw cutting more on the hinge side away from you if holding wood left in the hinge is towards you the fibres pull the tree towards you not away from you. Basic stuff you may know
I love your honesty the best way to learn for me is the hard way. Thank you
Mistakes can definitely make an impression.
It happened to me even had a pull line but the ground guy could not pull enough he rocked the hinge and it broke. It hit me but I was not hurt much. Now I use a english truckers hitch to help the ground guy or the winch on my mini garbage truck. I cut too much holding wood. The face cut should have been a traditional notch the other style makes it fall down expecially when you step the notch.
Luc Id agree that the saw was being forced too much at times but I cant see why anyone would usefully need to double wrap the lanyard in that situation. To what end? The supporting stem was in no danger of splitting out. If in doubt, 'go higher and cut smaller'. Glad you lived to learn from that Terry :-) !
Double wrapping means that with the same flip line you go around an extra loop (let s prétend that the tree is 12'inches.you form à loop that is16inches and hold it open with your two hands as you climb à limb les s tree or pôle because we do not always climb with back up (throw Line used)double wrapping chokes tree if you gaff out (do not mixt with circle of death )keep comments coming if you have questions
Climbing without a backup safety line, double wrapping would definitely make sense. In my lifetime, I do not think I will ever climb without a safety line, even if it requires the tedious work of moving it up as I go.
using a chainsaw at such close proximety to the face with the chance of kickback could result in a really bad accident.Always use the saw from the side on-get into the habit of attaining a work position that allows you use the chainsaw with both hands,and at 45° to the body.
Those are the kinds of practices I really need to work on.
Love the hitch hiker! my go to on pine removals. No sure if that carribeaner you used to choke off the stem was steel. But i have seen the aluminum one flex when choked off like that. The say that you can sideload it, I still run a carribeaner, shackle is just way too much work.
Oops. Aluminum. Good point. Thanks.
Amazing climb, and helpful documentary/video. I'm not good at heights.
Dear Mr Hale,
please do not cut with a chainsaw "over the height of your head" and please do not cut that close to a rope - especially when cutting in an angle around the stem of a tree, and you can not see the rope. You are too prescious.... Kind regards and thank you for your very carefully made videos!!! Greetings fom germany!
Christian. Thank you for your concerns and thank you for your excellent English.
How high up were you in the tree?
I appreciate your courage, sir... thumbs up to all the comments/advice on good safety habits. Stay safe!
Robert, I actually surveyed the tree and found its height to be 83 feet; tall, but not a monster by any means. I figure I was up about 65 feet. The wide angle lens on the GoPro makes it look higher.
I think you need to keep a bit calmer, you way overreacted when the branch came down. lol, "ah well" , made my day. (sarcasm of course, the overreacted part, not the made my day part)
Corey!
Stay safe man.
get this tool: ISC308 - ISC D4 Work Rescue Descender. Not only will it be useful in emergency situations (like the one-armed bandit you seem to insist on becoming), but also in normal descent. Also, your heart and vascular system would be under much less stress.
Thanks for the recommendation. There are so many good devices to choose from. I'm happy so far with the Hitchhiker and the holster to advance it. Less so with the SpiderJack 2.1. The D4 does look like a good tool for rescue work.
Love your videos and have learned a lot from them. But... my understanding of OSHA regs require for climbs over 12' a second climber be present and a full body harness
Haha. Osha
Oh my god where did you learned ...too much near at rope with saw
Try not to do a lot of hoping for the best. I have watched you for some time, your videos are good and I always take something positive away from watching you. You have the knowledge to understand how to make happen what you want, I think you are rushing through things because you want to get things over with. Please slow down and make happen what you already know how to do, weather it’s climbing higher to take a smaller more controllable top. Getting some space in between you and the tree wile cutting. Practice on the ground and then replicate what you are doing in the tree. Be more efficient, dont let your saw hang, a falling top may grab it, hook it to your saddle. Dont cut towards your climb line. And most of all keep climbing, its good for you.
Thanks, Christopher. I just passed 71 last month so my climbing opportunities are rapidly diminishing. Sure did enjoy it though!
im just wondering how u retrieved your roap. because you def passed the point of retrieval on descent.
I left the rope up there to finish the chunking down the next day. This particular tree was a stone's throw from my house and there was no danger of anyone climbing the tree to steal the rope.
one day you will be the same age.no worries about it..you learn ..
Hi,what is the yellow triangular piece of equipment on your lanyard,some sort of friction device?
Sort of. A rope grab, which allows you to increase or decrease the length of lanyard around the tree.
Thank you,does it have a brand name I can look for then I can buy one
There are LOTS of types/brands available and I can't really recommend one over another. That rope grab came with the lanyard when I bought it.
Thank you for taking the time to reply
You're certainly welcome. Climb safe.
Man...I love your videos. Your knowledge base is extensive and as a seasoned climber, I still learn from these clips. However, your practical application of the topics in your videos leaves a lot to be desired. I don't say this out of a desire to be offensive, rather I fear for your safety. You can accomplish more by sharing your knowledge via lecture and graphics....all that shiny new equipment is gonna get you in a lot of trouble.
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, my climbing abilities are pretty poor. Good thing I'm not trying to make a living at it. I dismantle a few trees each year, just because I enjoy it. I'm trying to concentrate on folks who can't easily afford to pay.
you should try an ms201tc-m it is a way better saw and the difference may suprise you. My ms201 gave me nothing but trouble. I can hear the same lack of power in your saw
Thanks for the recommendation. If the MS201TC-M is still top of the line when my 193 chooses to part company, I'll definitely go there.
Or muffler mods
Hitch hiker is the best imo
Any tree work that you can walk away from....
HAHAHA! That's what I used to say about soccer games three decades ago.
Working alone... not a good idea
Well hitch hicker is good figure 8is great for rappeling you should try another type of harness 😁be safe please
I Have a couple of descending 8s and take one of them up when doing SRT. You're right. I definitely prefer rappelling down on a figure 8.
I use an Onyx saddle when not using climbing spurs. The saddle in this video was my first. It was a convenient purchase, made without much insight. I'm trying to get my money out of it when climbing on spikes.
Of course the 8 puts more twist into the rope than the friction hitch too...always something else to consider...
" Calling it a day " ? , It's not dark yet ! ...
It's that ugly "age thing" again.
I'm just givin you " the business "...
"Old and sick" doesn't have anything to do with ambition. "Old and sick" means the amount of oxygen the worker can process will determine how long the worker can stay on the job. Until you actually are in that situation, comprehension will elude you. You should follow me around. At least Terry, here, doesn't forget if he's going up the tree or down it.
3:10 to 3:20 bad skills with saw as you push to much on it And high rêvs and so close to your escape Line and no double wrap with your flip line😢
I'll work on developing a gentle touch for those critical situations.
I seldom see a double wrap used and would expect it to be hard to advance. Under what circumstances do you consider a double wrap to be appropriate?
Alternately you could add a twist in your lanyard. My coworker tells me about it in my "first in-tree takedown" video, works well and is easier to work with than double wrapping.
Human Sorry. I'm not understanding how.
Terry Hale yes verry hard to avance but if you gaff out. you will stop before something punctures your pants
great.i dont Know What an onyx is but that saddle you are wearing keep your legs toge there you should have free leg move ment be safe
The Onyx is a really nice saddle from a company called New Tribe. It has nice large, independent thigh supports so that your legs are not forced together. My older saddle was bothering me that way this evening.
sorry pressed wrong button the goal about thèse comments is to éducate anyone concerne about safety mr halle as been such à great help in m'y développement that I cannot let him without any advices for his on good thanks
When it comes to climbing, I definitely need the education.
.... and a younger body.
Wath harness...to much spended forces ...
oops! we all make mistakes!
Since I haven't been at it that long, I'm playing catch-up in that department.
I have known so many experienced climbers cut them selves when using a saw one handed be very careful.
I have known so many experienced climbers cut them selves when using a saw one handed be very careful.
I definitely need to work on that: Get into a good stable position where I don't need to one-hand it. Also, stop the cut and finish with the much less dangerous hand saw.
because you are a novice climber you have to be careful about using bad techniques you can very quickly become dependent on them if you never develop the proper skills
all the comments i made