Silent Unboxing and Build PC

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  • @coresair4958
    @coresair4958 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I personally love it when people point to things they want to say but don't talk at all. Gives me extreme tingles.

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially in your hair LOL like me

  • @mattsfatcat212
    @mattsfatcat212 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I've honestly been looking for a video like this forever, I love watching people unbox or put together pc's without talking, it gets annoying. It's just relaxing to watch it all quietly.
    My setup:
    I5-6500
    Gigabyte gaZ170xp-sli
    850 evo 256gb ssd
    Gigabyte GTX970 g1 gaming
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 8gb 3200 DDR4
    Cooler Master 750 watt psu

    • @noahbarber6109
      @noahbarber6109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MattsFat Cat holy fuck

    • @anchorbubba
      @anchorbubba 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noah Barber it ain't that impressive
      *Is still better than mine

    • @nukinwalruses5508
      @nukinwalruses5508 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      750 watts!!!?

    • @wadecrabtree7051
      @wadecrabtree7051 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's mine
      R5 1500X
      Asus TUF B350M-Plus Gaming
      Masterliquid 120
      1x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2666
      860 EVO 500GB
      EVGA SC Gaming GTX 760 (Soon to be replaced with a 1060 6GB Gaming X)
      Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mATX
      EVGA 650 GQ

    • @DYWTE
      @DYWTE 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MattsFat Cat mine:
      i5 7500
      GTX1060 6G
      120 Green SSD
      1TB 7200 RPM hard drive
      B250M Pro 4
      Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133
      Unknown 450W power supply

  • @wilhem7365
    @wilhem7365 7 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    HAHAHAHAHAHA 23:50 "WHY?"

    • @Zghost276
      @Zghost276 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wilhem Proof factory workers smoke weed

    • @stephenmcallister2169
      @stephenmcallister2169 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      13:00 !!!!! WHY!!!!!

    • @Royaldirtman
      @Royaldirtman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmao that part caught me off guard

    • @kurtabela2429
      @kurtabela2429 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenmcallister2169 literally me when i saw it

    • @ohmingfeng9351
      @ohmingfeng9351 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wilhem was

  • @Hoss-ro5cd
    @Hoss-ro5cd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally a vido I can watch while building my pc and being relaxed

  • @silentstorm7322
    @silentstorm7322 8 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I've been looking for stuff like this. Really relaxing, thanks! :)

    • @clone800flamme
      @clone800flamme 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The limit is the GPU, huh?

    • @PolarBearWithHat
      @PolarBearWithHat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My only issue is the frame rate of the video. It’s subtle but it bugs me. I tried not to watch and just listen.

  • @ambuceador5458
    @ambuceador5458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that way to spread the thermal grease. It could look like some dirty procedure but it's one of the best I've ever seen. Congrats.

  • @_cereal_5130
    @_cereal_5130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this because it helps me learn more about pcs while also being incredibly relaxing

  • @darkproject3368
    @darkproject3368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is it so hard to find PC Build asmrs? Thank you for making this video. Keep it up

  • @Alekpowah
    @Alekpowah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:16 watching him pull shit out above the exposed socket gave me tingles i did not want.

  • @ppongp3801
    @ppongp3801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have school in a few hours and I’m here at 1am watching a guy build a pc, nice

  • @JM-iv5rk
    @JM-iv5rk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    13:00 I don't think that is necessary...

    • @FranticDreamerOld
      @FranticDreamerOld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't question people's sexualities!

    • @commanderhessonite4699
      @commanderhessonite4699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FranticDreamerOld he meant putting the thermal paste on the cooler isnt necessary.
      dont r/woosh me

    • @FranticDreamerOld
      @FranticDreamerOld 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@commanderhessonite4699 I'm not gonna r/woosh u
      r/wooosh

    • @ClariFishy
      @ClariFishy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Commander Hessonite r/itswooooshwith4os

  • @ajbubbasw
    @ajbubbasw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have the exact same PC except for case, storage and GPU.. I got a 970 like half off before the 1060 came out.

  • @pedrotrindade1657
    @pedrotrindade1657 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    King of cable management 😂😂

    • @SrTopo88
      @SrTopo88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya vez XDXD

  • @lestrangeopinionista3913
    @lestrangeopinionista3913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Il Cuggino Asmr" e niente rega, arte

  • @coresair4958
    @coresair4958 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing you deserve more than 45 subscribers.

  • @AMoth-rx9mw
    @AMoth-rx9mw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    *opens socket*
    *attaches mounting hardware*
    WHAT

    • @Ankka5
      @Ankka5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost died when seeing that.

  • @nancyknight3372
    @nancyknight3372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    😊🍑 I love the all the ASMR sounds in your video! My favorite is the crinkling of all the plastic bags, but I also found the slicing, scraping, and other sounds to give me lots of tingles, too!
    Thank you 🙏🏼 for giving us such a great video filled with so many “tingly” sounds!

  • @toptext2807
    @toptext2807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    patient has electronics inside him! the operation has a big risk!

  • @SystembolagetOfficial
    @SystembolagetOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before anyone else comments bout His cable management, please note: i got the same case as him (Mine is black and doesnt have a glass panel) and i can confirm that cable management isnt the strongest side of the case. It go like almost NO room behind the mobo for cables, and even worse if u got a non-modulare PSU. I luckily got a modulare PSU but i Still had to like sit on the Side panel until i was able to get it in place and gettin the screws in. And it even got a Huge ass Dent on the Side of it where the cables are. So cable management isnt really an option in this case

  • @TheGregGeek
    @TheGregGeek 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Next time, just put a pea sized dot in the middle of the CPU and apply the heatsink. It will spread out on its own. They spreading with finger method leaves air bubbles. Regardless, awesome video :$

    • @RiverNeo
      @RiverNeo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pea Method can leave air bubbles too.

    • @ilcugginoasmr2374
      @ilcugginoasmr2374  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The paste has to be incredibly thinly spread. All it's supposed to do is fill the microscopic cracks and nooks in the "smooth" surface. I've done the pea method in the past but if the heatsink isn't properly tightened into place there can be too much paste and now the heat transfer isn't as efficient. Best method in my experience has been to spread the paste around very thinly using a nitrile glove (or plastic bag if you don't have gloves) BTW. I prefer wearing gloves when building PCs. No chance of finger grease on those contacts.

    • @astrochaun
      @astrochaun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Il Cuggino ASMR nitrile gloves also prevent static discharge

  • @seeingspectrum5976
    @seeingspectrum5976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do the latex, or regular gloves eliminate any type of static? I know that it obviously eliminates the oily skin smudges and finger contact possibilities, obviously.

    • @ilcugginoasmr2374
      @ilcugginoasmr2374  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's for the finger oil. Static is less of an issue with recent tech + I have very little carpeting to generate static in my house. It's actually worse at work in the IT lab lol...

  • @cuzzuco3836
    @cuzzuco3836 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why does this man have only 270 subs?!!
    he deserves more hit that sub button

  • @dirkryan5962
    @dirkryan5962 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that a water-filled or coolant-filled heat sink, or just a really big air-cooled heat sink?

  • @infoforanything6496
    @infoforanything6496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it safe to build a pc with Nirtile gloves ?

  • @giacomocarrara7270
    @giacomocarrara7270 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that's a really nice...
    ...screwdriver

  • @beansoup23
    @beansoup23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    TF ARE YOU DOING WITH THE THERMAL PASTE BRO?!!?!?! do u even watch linus tech tips...

    • @mrsweatfreddy
      @mrsweatfreddy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro do you even build pc's

    • @jamesm.3829
      @jamesm.3829 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      CJ Mitchell its a joke

    • @joeyvigil
      @joeyvigil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Contrats @Matt, you have successfully proved someone wrong on the internet. This a rare moment.

    • @FusionOnYT_
      @FusionOnYT_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      DEsTrucT No hes not, its fine, dont be the “its my way or the highway” type of pc enthusiast.

    • @tjdaughton9439
      @tjdaughton9439 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that pissed me off to

  • @thegaminglion7
    @thegaminglion7 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    realy good & clean

  • @mhill88ify
    @mhill88ify 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty good medium-budget build - def. can play most games with good settings on that I'd imagine. 'Dat cable management though...

  • @kompst_tu
    @kompst_tu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg I get it!! TheRelaxingEnd!! He does unboxing videos with gloves just like this! XD

    • @almostgeorge1984
      @almostgeorge1984 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skyborn - Black Ops 3 Mapper no it’s to minimize static electricity

  • @dpachannel2052
    @dpachannel2052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the gloves are antistatic.

  • @retrothewizard
    @retrothewizard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo seems to be the most popular choice of coolers. I have one myself and I can understand why. Lol

  • @delbrouf
    @delbrouf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice build man!!!

  • @jlillanes365
    @jlillanes365 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice cable management!

  • @anthonyd4678
    @anthonyd4678 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PC Master Race!

  • @ashton3404
    @ashton3404 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:10 Pressing on the cpu gave me a fucking aneurism.

    • @ilcugginocanadese
      @ilcugginocanadese 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      AmbitionZ it's a cpu buddy, not your clit...

  • @inopdz2827
    @inopdz2827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why you put paste on cooler

  • @Spidergeek13
    @Spidergeek13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you install a DVD player?

  • @AlphaXray
    @AlphaXray 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t build your motherboard on top of the anti static bag. The outside of the bag can actually be conductive.

    • @Ankka5
      @Ankka5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No... It is the same material as inside the bag.

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ankka5 no it’s not. The outside part is what conducts the whole static.

  • @Miztix
    @Miztix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just need thermal paste on the cpu not the cooler

  • @droidgfx6884
    @droidgfx6884 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cringed me out when you placed the motherboard on the outside of the anti static bag...

  • @Tima21011970
    @Tima21011970 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    and why did not cable management

  • @JWGamer_YT24
    @JWGamer_YT24 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    and what was the price range?

  • @Darkns
    @Darkns 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Google Pixel Phone have a really good camera! It was like a camera canon

  • @five5696
    @five5696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @Deathsaber435
    @Deathsaber435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What case is that

  • @LeoAX-dw5ow
    @LeoAX-dw5ow 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    realy good work but how do you record without movments ?

  • @Brandonskull100
    @Brandonskull100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cpu part is too hard to watch what are you doing you dont need thermal paste on both lmao im so done haha

  • @lolitdelarama6709
    @lolitdelarama6709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rip airflow

  • @pandaru9915
    @pandaru9915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    im happy i could get you to 300 subs lol

  • @tokyohanamura
    @tokyohanamura 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to sound like a A-hole, but when they got to applying thermal paste I slightly cringed. I thought it’s only a pea sized drop on center of the CPU? Spreading it like they did looks like bubbles could form & cause the cpu to heat up severely
    Other than that, the entire assembly was just so satisfying to hear & watch!

    • @ilcugginoasmr2374
      @ilcugginoasmr2374  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You only sound like an A-hole by using the pronoun "they."

    • @alexm8226
      @alexm8226 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ilcugginoasmr2374 _nice_

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexm8226 nice? Yeah right lol

  • @1234loci
    @1234loci 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice vid mate quite relaying, but the "cable management" at the end was painful to watch. it's really messy you could have place those cables behind the mobo. There is room for them in the newer cases. Keep up!

  • @Royaldirtman
    @Royaldirtman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i used part of this video as a tutorial

    • @colbyhowto8535
      @colbyhowto8535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Royaldirtman which part? Please not be the thermal paste!

  • @almostgeorge1984
    @almostgeorge1984 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    dood so dank

    • @almostgeorge1984
      @almostgeorge1984 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      and i'm building same pc but with an i3 and stock cooler

    • @Axlur
      @Axlur 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAHAHA

  • @source3lerg
    @source3lerg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus i was watching a vsauce video to this

  • @samirogers7312
    @samirogers7312 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video helps me sleep thx

  • @EsaRino-g7z
    @EsaRino-g7z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No offense that cable management reminds me of how cooked spaghettis look when you throw em outta the pot... a tangled, chaotic mess. And all of that with a glass front case... thank god that he didnt install any RGB lights or LED strips. Imagine how that would have looked like.. funny.

    • @aykit08
      @aykit08 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👀

  • @_cereal_5130
    @_cereal_5130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU PUT THE RAM IN THE WRONG SLOTS

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He also thinks 2666mhz is fast too

  • @Babumoshai..
    @Babumoshai.. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Relaxing end copy

    • @deinemama334
      @deinemama334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why? He is wearing those gloves for anti-static purposes....

  • @ToxicallyMasculinelol
    @ToxicallyMasculinelol 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    aren't those gloves a little prone to static

  • @BigMans88
    @BigMans88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    should've gone for a used 6 GB 1060

    • @FxrsakenPrime
      @FxrsakenPrime 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Used😂😂😂

    • @FxrsakenPrime
      @FxrsakenPrime 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Donald Trump getting a used one is always risky tho

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FxrsakenPrime no. If you have common sense, then it won’t be risky. The only component that is sensitive and risky is the power supply.

  • @zackvyle
    @zackvyle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When building a pc/desktop, how do you know the parts will all fit?

    • @zackvyle
      @zackvyle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Astrative nope never had a chance but hopefully it will come if I work hard in the future and I don’t know too much stuff about pc/desktops

    • @kooldood3107
      @kooldood3107 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just use pcpartpicker.com. They will tell you if the parts are compatible or if there’s an issue. Also I watch a lot of Linus tech tips

  • @madhead122
    @madhead122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You probably should learn how to do a good cable management, just buy a psu that is modular, use the holes that are for that and you are good to go :)

    • @captainbuzz2161
      @captainbuzz2161 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Grasser don't need modular psu's just get a case with psu cover or buy one it's cheaper

    • @racionator2668
      @racionator2668 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      To give 50€ more for modular PSU is pointless

    • @jkntrflt126
      @jkntrflt126 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@racionator2668 lol modular psu cost 70 so a non modular cost 20 ?

  • @earlwoods9197
    @earlwoods9197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way you put the thermal paste on makes me cringe so hard....it needs to make a seal and dabbing it like that puts craters in the compound that doesn't allow for a seal to take place. Conductivity between two metals needs to be consistent surface.

  • @diemrcupcake
    @diemrcupcake 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why so much thermal paste WHY DEAR GOD WHY!

  • @rust_td
    @rust_td 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL I HAVE THE EXACT SAME BUILD.

  • @cobra23km
    @cobra23km 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    don`t understand why u wont chose the 6gb version....3gb is useless in 1080p or ultrawide monitors...but nice video man

    • @ElvinL
      @ElvinL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You idiot

    • @cobra23km
      @cobra23km 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElvinL idiot are you stupid prick!!!! why did i say wrong?? useless kid!

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cobra23km he mad cause he doesn’t have a PC that’s all

  • @warmtea862
    @warmtea862 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wayyyy too much thermal paste.

    • @deliberation6022
      @deliberation6022 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No nah he put an ok amount look at gamers nexus video

  • @tobias742
    @tobias742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this termal paste hurts me

  • @Roag69
    @Roag69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Motion sickness

  • @أحمدعلاءالدّينسترة
    @أحمدعلاءالدّينسترة 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does that.cost you ?!!

    • @phatphatty4013
      @phatphatty4013 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      $4

    • @ElvinL
      @ElvinL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phatphatty4013 you're a comedian

    • @phatphatty4013
      @phatphatty4013 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElvinL Thanks for encouraging me to pursue my dreams!

  • @kaleidoscope1553
    @kaleidoscope1553 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow... handling the board with that removed CPU socket protection makes me nervous as hell! You came so close to touching the socket and destroying your board! The finger was literally on the edge of the socket... OK... I'm going to faint now... See ya... Bye!

    • @johnwheels89
      @johnwheels89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kalei Doscope done it to test that multiple times and it was just fine every time

    • @ToxicallyMasculinelol
      @ToxicallyMasculinelol 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      touching the socket does not instantly destroy the board lol

    • @kiidreflex
      @kiidreflex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToxicallyMasculinelol lmao

    • @kaleidoscope1553
      @kaleidoscope1553 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ToxicallyMasculine Maybe you should try this some time... Lightly brush over the pins in the socket with your finger and let us know how that worked out for you and the board!

    • @sherpajones
      @sherpajones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All ya gotta do is snag a pin with your latex glove and yer fucked.

  • @rafaelmartinez9636
    @rafaelmartinez9636 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrible cable management

  • @piratesmvp
    @piratesmvp 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You installed the PSU upside down. The fan should be pointing towards the inside of the case. Otherwise, great video!

    • @Frenlest
      @Frenlest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      piratesmvp lmao no?

    • @BreakingDimes
      @BreakingDimes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no it should not

    • @piratesmvp
      @piratesmvp 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BreakingDimes 0_0 Yes it should. blog.nzxt.com/2015/12/which-way-should-a-psu-fan-point/

    • @Tim_Nilsson
      @Tim_Nilsson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      All "modern" (~8 years back) chassis that has the PSU mounted in the bottom has a vent facing downwards.
      But he used _way_ to much thermal paste and applied it incorrectly. He should've stuck with the initial drop he applied on the CPU and made the heatsink spread it out when he mounted it. Its only purpose is to fill the _tiny_ air gaps between the different (microscopically uneven) surfaces, nothing more. Too much and it acts like an insulator. The way he applied it also has a tendency to form air pockets in the paste when the heatsink is mounted. Pressing the heatsink down on a single "droplet" forces the air out.
      ESD is also just as dangerous as it always has been...

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +piratesmvp - How about you read your own source!?
      Literal quote from the blog you linked:
      _"If your PC case has some sort of grill below where the PSU sits, then you should install your PSU so that its intake fan is facing towards it. In other words, your PSU’s fan will be facing downwards. The reason for this is so the PSU intake fan will suck cool air into the unit from outside the case."_
      It even goes on to mention that if you mount your PSU with the fan on the inside that it will suck in hotter air, which is sub-optimal if you want to keep your components cool. It only recommends doing this if your case lacks a bottom fan grill, and therefore leaves you no other option.
      Next time, don't try to correct others when you yourself have no clue what you're doing and can't even properly read a blog.

  • @ArmandoPerez-hz7wp
    @ArmandoPerez-hz7wp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hope nobody pays this dude to build their computer.

    • @ilcugginoasmr2374
      @ilcugginoasmr2374  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Armando, why don't you mind your own business?

    • @Ez_Alucard
      @Ez_Alucard 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m dying of laughter

  • @Blue-lb4fj
    @Blue-lb4fj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed out on so much getting an intel processor. SO MUCH.

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Says an amd fanboy. U can’t judge people’s choices

    • @Blue-lb4fj
      @Blue-lb4fj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Graphics_Card I’m not judging his choice, I just personally have a better experience with amd

    • @Graphics_Card
      @Graphics_Card 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blue-lb4fj but you should be happy about your business though. Some people use intel for different tasks like him. There isn’t a such thing as missing out on cpus.

  • @donnie7810
    @donnie7810 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why? Why would you do this? 3 GB of vram! Are you serious? Really?