@@Unknown_user86 Fusion spells are now called theurgy, and they use a bar that fills up over multiple turns/battles. they don't use SP. And I am almost 100% certain victory cry is only on orpheus telos, which you can only get from maxing all social links. There might be a skill card for it, I'm not sure.
@@Rayan-yw2xd I think her coding is a set schedule of attacks. If you would null, absorb, or reflect an attack, she megidolaons. And didn't she get 2x attacks a turn? But at the end of the schedule is a megidolaon. I haven't gotten to ng+ in reloaded.
@@marvelfan2930according to some dev interview, his Necklace was a future gift from Chidori, so it seems that the revival route is cannon. The dream is ambiguous though, but he’d probably be more depressed about it if she was still dead
Koromaru has two Theurgys at the start because he already has his ultimate persona. He's just that good of a good boy Edit: woah hit comment. Cheers my dudes. I'm glad we all appreciate one of the best doggos in game history
Considering persona evo in p3 comes from the resolution a character comes to because of a dead loved one... It makes sense that Koromaru is already resolved. Unlike Ken and Yukari, who are shown to be very conflicted about their respective parent's death, Koromaru seems like he already made up his mind. The only one I don't think this method applies to is Fuuka.
Goddammnn, they did Armageddon justice it deserve with that animation!!! And Junpei's theurgy is so wholesome and awesome at the same time wtf!? And his first theurgy is just him setting his sword to go Laevateinn is soo awesome!!
What a grand finish to the video! Love these new "All Outs", they all really fit each character and love the symbolism with each of their elements respectively (ex: junpei's fire agi and mitsurus ice bufu). Also, i LOVE the SMT cameo of Forneus and Decarabia being a fusion attack!
For some reason I always pictured Armageddon as Helel and Satan doing a Punch Parry with each other and the explosion going off the instant their fists make contact. The actual animation is still amazing as hell though.
Glad that Susano-o and Angel form Lucifer (Helel) finally have a new model, not counting the ones in Dx2. Tho looks like they unfortunately cut out Ares and replaced him with Mithras
Wait armageddon sets your SP and HP to 1? I actually like it, since now we actually feel the recoil of such powerful move. Is there a victory cry though to mitigate drawback?
In the OG it used to only cost all MP but no HP and the optimal build was to have spell master and victory cry to be able to use it twice (not that anything other then liz or the final boss is gonna be able to take a 3nd hit of it atleast in the OG don't knaw about now) or if you wanna heal or do sth before you use it, but dropping your HP seems like a good thing to better balance it although I don't really think it'll matter since 1 use will ALWAYS wipe and eith victory cry you'll be good as new so 🤷🤷 Ps. still like that they didn't nerf it cuz its so iconic and I always disliked that in the previous game Izanagi was so OP that no one used but him and it always felt weird like "I'M PLAYING P5 WHY IS THE MOST POWERFUL PERSONA HIM HE'S FROM P4" but in here while Satanael is very strong he doesn't snap the game in half like Izanagi did and Armageddon is still the top dog.
@@hardcoregamer739technically Armageddon is nerfed in this game compared to the og since you have to fill up the Protags theurgy gauge to use fusion spells, meaning you can't spam it as much
@hardcoregamer739 Some special shadows at the later levels of Tartarus can survive 1k+ hits. In the og I don't remember that being the case, so who knows how many hp would Nyx and Elizabeth have.
is it just me, or am i the only one who thinks that aigis's ultimate theurgy is a refernce to the rider kick's from kamen rider? wouldn't be the first time persona refernced kamen rider [morgana's first transformation into the monabus has them do a very similar pose to a kamen rider henshin.]
I love how the Protag got fucking toppled by King Frost walking forward during his interaction with Black Frost XD Also, for anyone curious, the fusion spells the Protag uses are as follows: 1 - Cadenza 2 - Jack Bros 3 - King and I 4 - Best Friends 5 - Scarlet Havoc 6 - Trickster 7 - Armageddon
This right here perfectly captured how strong S.E.E.S is when I played the original P3 but they are really trying to nerf Makoto with this "theurgy" mechanic and the lack of the og fusion spells like Infinity, Last Judge, Thunder call, etc but hey atleast the delete spell got in.
So it seems the second awakenings have extra effects or do something else entirely: Yukari: Now increases magic attack Junpei: Now seems to be Fire (?), Junpei recovers HP Akihiko: More damage, but is single target Mitsuru: More damage Ken: Now heals and provides Tetra/Makarakarn Aigis: More damage
@@hyaudah4197 Look, as much as I love the Nocturne reference, Best Friends is kinda ass. Charge + Concentrate is a good effect, but not worth using your theurgy meter on, especially when Decarabia and Siegfried are both level 54 so you get it at the same time as Scarlet Havoc. Still, only one stinker out of seven is still a better ratio than the amount of dogwater fusion spells in the original. Fusion spells in general are also much better since you only need to have both personas registered in the compendium and not in your stock. Makes Cadenza and Jack Bros actually usable.
Wow!! These are SICK. Just a question: in the case of our main character, the special attack is exclusive to these couples of Personas or you can do it with others? Also, are there dual attacks? Like Showtime. Meaning, Makoto with every other ally beating an enemy themselves.
In the case of party members, you can still use the old Theurgy with their new awakened Persona too, it'll be the same animation. No co-op attacks like in P3P or anything similar to that.
@@TheLynx30 no dreamfest also... Someone actually used this seriously? Like I only used Cadenza in my playthrough, I actually used it for the entire playthrough.
@@asafesseidonsapphireEven Armageddon is kinda useless cause you can't spam it, and the only enemies you'd like to use it on would anhilate your party right after using it because of the drawback.
Yeah, the one who uses Narcissus (forgot the fusion spell name), the one with Sandalphon, Metatron, Vallhalla (Odin + Valkyrie), Shiva + Parvati, Thor + Take Mikazuchi...
YOOOOO! Why they remove Infinity? That fusion spell was clutch for that Elizabeth fight when she was attacking with Megidolaon with Masakado (like with Pixie, his Megidolaon also does 9999)
You won't need Infinity anymore. That might sound like they nerf her, but they're not. Let's just say there are some new changes that make the fight a lot trickier. Even now i'm still stuck and definitely could use some enlightenment lol.
Masakado's Megidolaon is no longer a guaranteed one shot to compensate for the lack of Infinity. Don't try to use High Counter against her any more, though.
That 9,999 damage from Armageddon is giving me ptsd from Elizabeth/Theodore fight. Their Megidolaon is technically Armageddon. I still can't believe that you need a calculator in order to defeat them. Hahaha
So the Narcicuss and Pixie spell was removed? Although I vaguely remember the skill was relatively useless since it also inflicts ailments on your party.
That Chidori is a nice touch.
Is that a NARUTO reference!?
@@user-ee6lk1pb6wthe girl behind name is chidori.
@@user-ee6lk1pb6w no bro wtf?!
0:49
I was thinking they would make Aki with Shinji theurgy
Junpei really went "Soul Succession" with that Chidori move. 😭
Chidori's got Iori's back. 😤
But chidori is alive in persona 4
@@sebasflame976huh?
@@sebasflame976... What persona 4 as in PS2 persona 4 or the current persona 4 Which is persona 4 golden
0:48
@@Makoto_Oksanapersona 4 arena ultimax
3:31 Minato: Everyone, Jack Bros. [Walks off like a Boss]
And then king frost completely knocks him over 😂
I fucking loved that lmao
I’m so glad Jack Bros. also deal damage too.
And Armageddon still deal 9999.
Take it away, boys
Daniel Craig: Ladies and Gentlemen. The Jack Bros.
0:49 ...Shit.
4:27 I see that it's still as OP as ever.
Ah, going from being spammable every fight with the right build to a "save for bosses" nuke is a bit of a nerf.
@@DamnDaimennot if you have victory cry probably.
@@Unknown_user86 Fusion spells are now called theurgy, and they use a bar that fills up over multiple turns/battles. they don't use SP.
And I am almost 100% certain victory cry is only on orpheus telos, which you can only get from maxing all social links. There might be a skill card for it, I'm not sure.
Elizabeth be like: Oh That's cute Here's a 9999 Megidolaon oh you survived? Heres another 9999 Megidolaon.
@@Rayan-yw2xd I think her coding is a set schedule of attacks. If you would null, absorb, or reflect an attack, she megidolaons. And didn't she get 2x attacks a turn? But at the end of the schedule is a megidolaon.
I haven't gotten to ng+ in reloaded.
I’m so glad they kept Armageddon, it looks so badass here
Also Chidori in Junpei’s theurgy skill got me good 😔
But now it reduces user HP to 1
Glad it’s easier than buying items for them but can’t spam them
@@aetherherrscherofnasigoren1417i mean, Armageddon is too op. Gotta nerf it somehow.
They should have done something with shinji in Aki and Ken's theurgies
@@aetherherrscherofnasigoren1417 Just get Messiah leveled up enough that he gets Victory Cry :)
Nah 😭😭
The one with Junpei with Chidori bro... 😭😭
Don't worry dude. Persona 4 Arena Ultimax confirmed the revival flag. Chidori is alive and well.
When? All I remember him dreaming about her than being sad the dream was over
@@marvelfan2930according to some dev interview, his Necklace was a future gift from Chidori, so it seems that the revival route is cannon. The dream is ambiguous though, but he’d probably be more depressed about it if she was still dead
@@littleguystar Wasn't the revival route only possible for femc?
No. Revival route was first in FES.@@marvelfan2930
Koromaru has two Theurgys at the start because he already has his ultimate persona.
He's just that good of a good boy
Edit: woah hit comment. Cheers my dudes. I'm glad we all appreciate one of the best doggos in game history
Considering he can run as fast as his persona, Koromaru must definitely one of the top tier among them physical stats wise.
I know Koromaru got my back at any time 🗣️ My Goat
can he switch?.
Considering persona evo in p3 comes from the resolution a character comes to because of a dead loved one... It makes sense that Koromaru is already resolved. Unlike Ken and Yukari, who are shown to be very conflicted about their respective parent's death, Koromaru seems like he already made up his mind.
The only one I don't think this method applies to is Fuuka.
Also he get buff and debiliate
Im glad they kept cadenza, it really comes in clutch
Literally just saved my ass like 5 minutes ago. Definitely happy it’s here.
Kinda wish they brought all the fusion spells back
@@laravioliiii2832 So do I, my friend.. but we must work with what we were given
Personally never used it once in reload. It's insanely useful in of for me but idk in reload yukari just kinda worked I didn't need it
2:58 Magical Robot AIGIS
3:09 Magical Robot AIGIS Rising : REBOMBER
I love Akihiko setting up Heat Riser on himself before going nuts for his second Theurgy
That speed blitz was crazy. Akihiko is a beast.
Goddammnn, they did Armageddon justice it deserve with that animation!!! And Junpei's theurgy is so wholesome and awesome at the same time wtf!? And his first theurgy is just him setting his sword to go Laevateinn is soo awesome!!
0:02 Wait ... THE EVOKER HAS A FREAKING MAG ?! 😱
WHATTT
My feelings exactly
Mitsuru, I have QUESTIONS!
Proper gun terminology
Well done
Actually makes sense when you run out of mp you run out of evoker shots that’s my headcannon atleast
Mitsuri be like Gordon Ramsay "Kys"
I love the Decarabia and Forneus one ❤
They are best friends no matter what universe they are in.
2:50 wow this shinjiro character seems real cool, I wonder what his second theurgy is :)
bruh.... are you serious or trolling...
@R3QV13m Obviously trolling, there's even a smiling emoticon at the end.
Cant wait to use his second theurgy against the final boss
2:34 O_o Ken gets GREAT GOSPEL?!
3:42 King Frost just knocked him up lmao
He WHAT
🤨
*He Ho him up
Ayoo
Makoto's his ho.
What a grand finish to the video!
Love these new "All Outs", they all really fit each character and love the symbolism with each of their elements respectively (ex: junpei's fire agi and mitsurus ice bufu).
Also, i LOVE the SMT cameo of Forneus and Decarabia being a fusion attack!
For some reason I always pictured Armageddon as Helel and Satan doing a Punch Parry with each other and the explosion going off the instant their fists make contact. The actual animation is still amazing as hell though.
NOOO THAT CHIDORIII BROOO
0:48
THE ULTIMAX REFERENCES ARE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAL
3:41 rip makoto
Absolutely love Junpei's and Aigis' second Theurgies! But damn, where is Makoto's one with Thor and Take Mikazuki? I was waiting for that one
OMG yes... Thunder Bros unite!
It's pretty cool they get new Theurgies with their upgraded Personas!
Can they still use the old ones, though?
They can
@@nikkienavarra7791 Yes
Not only are they really cool and satisfying to watch they seem hella unfair on the enemy side, I hope we keep them for future games
Im probably reading too much into it but I love how Mithras and Siegfried fight back to back considering how Siegfried died in life
Let me guess stabbed in the back?
3:40 did he just get pushed over by his own persona?
Haha yep
I mean come on, King Frost is a big character dude
He tripped
Hermes is THE wingman!
XD
@@Makoto_Oksana king frost is a dick I guess it not out of character that he would inconsiderate to his own user
Typical Emperor bullshit.
Glad that Susano-o and Angel form Lucifer (Helel) finally have a new model, not counting the ones in Dx2.
Tho looks like they unfortunately cut out Ares and replaced him with Mithras
Resued assets😂
Annyway glad to have Helel, never liked Lucifer evil form
@@JohnnyFish971Helel is definitely my preferred form of Lucifer as well. He was originally God's most beautiful angel, after all.
these are so goddamn epic i love it
Ken's ones are insane, like holy sh!t bro using is using the whole testament to buff the party 💀
I love how king frost is so big he pushes makoto to the ground lol
Gotta say, missed opportunity by the devs to not do an Orpheus+Thanatos theurgy
Okay Shinji😳
Aigis literally do a Rider Kick
In the same one where she gets the armament from the fighting game too. This theurgy was made for me.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that looks like it
It's the Inazuma Kick from Gunbuster!! Which, I mean technically is basically a Rider Kick. But still!
Takeshi Hongo would be proud.
Shinjis is pretty sick with how the blood rain makes a tear on his face.
The blood didn't land on his eye, he's bleeding because the persona suppressing drugs are killing him
Actually, it's a bit frightening...
@@Thecoolmeister2005...are u slow or smth....
The red eyes on fusion skill use look _really good_ on Makoto
Junpei's easily the best one
These attacks are even cooler than the Showtimes of Persona 5 Royal.
Most of those looked corny af. 😂😂
Cmon you cant tell me joker/akechi showtime wasnt some heat @@MrDust2011
@ICEDCINNAROLLS Most of them. That's one of the exceptions.
Those things sucked, let's be real.
The Strikers ones though? Absolute class acts.
3:13 the 3rd best part i have ever seen
Forneus and Decarabia made me smile, lol
Best Friend still here! I’m glad!
Chidori and Junpei 🥲
Decarabia and Forneus 😇
I cried when Chidori showed up in Junpei 2nd Theurgy attack 😢😭
Wait armageddon sets your SP and HP to 1? I actually like it, since now we actually feel the recoil of such powerful move. Is there a victory cry though to mitigate drawback?
In the OG it used to only cost all MP but no HP and the optimal build was to have spell master and victory cry to be able to use it twice (not that anything other then liz or the final boss is gonna be able to take a 3nd hit of it atleast in the OG don't knaw about now) or if you wanna heal or do sth before you use it, but dropping your HP seems like a good thing to better balance it although I don't really think it'll matter since 1 use will ALWAYS wipe and eith victory cry you'll be good as new so 🤷🤷
Ps. still like that they didn't nerf it cuz its so iconic and I always disliked that in the previous game Izanagi was so OP that no one used but him and it always felt weird like "I'M PLAYING P5 WHY IS THE MOST POWERFUL PERSONA HIM HE'S FROM P4" but in here while Satanael is very strong he doesn't snap the game in half like Izanagi did and Armageddon is still the top dog.
@@hardcoregamer739technically Armageddon is nerfed in this game compared to the og since you have to fill up the Protags theurgy gauge to use fusion spells, meaning you can't spam it as much
@hardcoregamer739 Some special shadows at the later levels of Tartarus can survive 1k+ hits. In the og I don't remember that being the case, so who knows how many hp would Nyx and Elizabeth have.
junpei.....
Why couldnt the Royal Showtimes be actually cool like these?
*Happy Apollo, Hades, Venus, Chronos and Artemis noises when they see fusion spells being used*
Classic Grim Reaper farming with Armageddon. Something just never change.
Honestly they did shinji justice. In the character trailer they didn’t show the blood bit.
It looks SO cool but makes me want to cry for shinji 💙
Junpei's definately the best
0:39 Junpei going all out with that Hinokami Kagura!!
Shinji have his persona pierced. Interesting
Did they just give everyone their own S-craft? Awesome! Happy to see the person combo moves return as well
So these were the only fusions that survived huh? Not bad.
1:06 Soul Hacker!!
0:43 Hinokami Kagura: Waltz
Wait a sec... You're nailing it!
is it just me, or am i the only one who thinks that aigis's ultimate theurgy is a refernce to the rider kick's from kamen rider? wouldn't be the first time persona refernced kamen rider [morgana's first transformation into the monabus has them do a very similar pose to a kamen rider henshin.]
Jesus Aigis is cracked with her awakened Theurgy
I love how the Protag got fucking toppled by King Frost walking forward during his interaction with Black Frost XD
Also, for anyone curious, the fusion spells the Protag uses are as follows:
1 - Cadenza
2 - Jack Bros
3 - King and I
4 - Best Friends
5 - Scarlet Havoc
6 - Trickster
7 - Armageddon
How you you get you get them?
@@sonicrusher64get the personas related to the skill then they show up as your theurgy
This right here perfectly captured how strong S.E.E.S is when I played the original P3 but they are really trying to nerf Makoto with this "theurgy" mechanic and the lack of the og fusion spells like Infinity, Last Judge, Thunder call, etc but hey atleast the delete spell got in.
So it seems the second awakenings have extra effects or do something else entirely:
Yukari: Now increases magic attack
Junpei: Now seems to be Fire (?), Junpei recovers HP
Akihiko: More damage, but is single target
Mitsuru: More damage
Ken: Now heals and provides Tetra/Makarakarn
Aigis: More damage
3:42 NOT MAKOTO GETTING PUSHED OVER LMAO
4:19 my man is doing the dio pose 😂
chidori appearing: wow... im tearing up
decarabia riding forneus: WOW... IM ACTUALLY CRYIG.... FUCK... SO HAPPY FOR YOU TWO
>P3P Fusion spells: 18
>P3R Fusion spells: 7
Sad but Valid
😭😭
I mean if those 7 is all useful, it's more worth it than 18 but not all of them are useful
Atleast for me tho
@@hyaudah4197 Look, as much as I love the Nocturne reference, Best Friends is kinda ass. Charge + Concentrate is a good effect, but not worth using your theurgy meter on, especially when Decarabia and Siegfried are both level 54 so you get it at the same time as Scarlet Havoc. Still, only one stinker out of seven is still a better ratio than the amount of dogwater fusion spells in the original. Fusion spells in general are also much better since you only need to have both personas registered in the compendium and not in your stock. Makes Cadenza and Jack Bros actually usable.
@@Bladehound83 wait, fusion spell is a nocturne reference? I really need to continue playing nocturne right now, fr 💀
Junpei got done good by this remake
Love that heal he gets at the end
That Chidori one… man… everytime brings me to tears
scarlet havoc is op shit even you play in merciless. it can instant kill all mini boss with charge buff
now that I got to the chidori scene, seeing her shadow in junpei's theurgy refilling his hp makes me :(
La segunda de jumpei es muy bonita en su final
Mitsuru is so badass and elegant
Damn Aigis has some really badass looking ones! Love them
I love how they added this to this game
I really didn't expect the MC's ability to be a heal. Its a fun change.
Well his therugy is his fusion spell and he happened to have cadenza as his initial Theurugy
@@standuptheshitpost862 yeah i havent unlocked the others yet because i suck at persona fusion, so at the timr i didnt know he had other theurgies.
@@Avenus112 good luck finding others, jack brothers and king&I are good therugy that carried me back then
Junpei's 2nd goes fkg hard
Armageddon be hittin different now
Wow!! These are SICK.
Just a question: in the case of our main character, the special attack is exclusive to these couples of Personas or you can do it with others?
Also, are there dual attacks? Like Showtime. Meaning, Makoto with every other ally beating an enemy themselves.
In the case of party members, you can still use the old Theurgy with their new awakened Persona too, it'll be the same animation. No co-op attacks like in P3P or anything similar to that.
It's only for those specific personas.
Although some are missing from the og, like Infinity that used Ananta and Vishnu.
@@TheLynx30 no dreamfest also...
Someone actually used this seriously?
Like I only used Cadenza in my playthrough, I actually used it for the entire playthrough.
@@asafesseidonsapphireEven Armageddon is kinda useless cause you can't spam it, and the only enemies you'd like to use it on would anhilate your party right after using it because of the drawback.
@@mappybc6097 makes sense.
Fuuka's are actually really pretty woah
Damn, they removed half the fusion spells. 😢
Yeah, the one who uses Narcissus (forgot the fusion spell name), the one with Sandalphon, Metatron, Vallhalla (Odin + Valkyrie), Shiva + Parvati, Thor + Take Mikazuchi...
Most of the ones left out are both redundant and inferior to the ones in here, but yeah, it would have been cool to see all of them make it in.
@@mappybc6097 Not Infinity though, That skill is like must have against Elizabeth back then.
@@sigmaenjoyer7020 It made her much easier, but you could definitely defeat her before 50 turns and not see Megidolaon.
@@mappybc6097Why they always made each boss easier than OG?
Yukari can actually be pretty cool
"I've been waiting for this"
armageddon looks sick af!!
0:48 🥺
0:40 This is the best move in any persona game ever
Hol up....did Yukari just LOAD the
evoker?
O_O
Didn't think I'd notice Mitsuri's physics there?
:000
OKAY, its awesome
Theurgy is such a cool mechanic
Sad that so many fusion spells are missing.
Danngg, it really triggers my nostalgia so much😢😢😢😢
4:21
LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS
SWAG MESSIAH
I wonder why the red hood man with axe only have one ultimate skill while the others has two?
YOOOOO! Why they remove Infinity? That fusion spell was clutch for that Elizabeth fight when she was attacking with Megidolaon with Masakado (like with Pixie, his Megidolaon also does 9999)
You won't need Infinity anymore. That might sound like they nerf her, but they're not. Let's just say there are some new changes that make the fight a lot trickier. Even now i'm still stuck and definitely could use some enlightenment lol.
Masakado's Megidolaon is no longer a guaranteed one shot to compensate for the lack of Infinity. Don't try to use High Counter against her any more, though.
That 9,999 damage from Armageddon is giving me ptsd from Elizabeth/Theodore fight. Their Megidolaon is technically Armageddon. I still can't believe that you need a calculator in order to defeat them. Hahaha
順平がレーヴァンテインそのもの持ってるのカッケェ
The Chidori support still hurts like hell. I'm getting emotional damage.
Almost , all theurgy
Man, Scarlet Havok looks so cool.
Blaze of Life is insane by Junpei
these are gonna go so HARD when I get to this part of the game (and freeze my laptop)
So the Narcicuss and Pixie spell was removed? Although I vaguely remember the skill was relatively useless since it also inflicts ailments on your party.
1:33 like diamond dust
The Decarabia and Forneus one 🥲