The downfall started with unity although I loved the game. Origin is an outlier, it was actually very good. Anything after unity except origin we’re awful.
Downfall of Assassin's Creed. -As a cohesive series, I would have to say AC3 was the end. -For the vision of the series and to maximize its story telling potential, would be when Patrice Desilet left the series. -However there have been games after those two events that have been considered the best games in the series. -Simply whatever would be considered a good game after AC3, I would consider stand alone games, no longer creating a cohesive series. The Modern Day segments after AC3 are clear evidence of this.
When AC Origins came out.. in my own opinion, because of the style of gameplay, The RPG Mechanics that's what eventually gave rise to the games like Odyssey and Valhalla. As much as I love Origins, to me that's where Assassin's Creed started to fall short. If the games had ended with say unity or syndicate, I would have been happy.
There is no bad AC game. Some are better than others, but I enjoyed all of them. People are talking about the "downfall" of AC since AC3, I saw people calling every game since AC3 "bad" and a few years later calling them great (AC3, Black Flag, Unity, Origins, Odyssey). The same can be said about every Far Cry since FC4 and about every Watch Dogs. Although Ubisoft deserve a lot of criticism, I think their games are good and people just love to hate Ubisoft.
AC has certainly fallen. AC3's first week sales were 3.5 million, and the average of the Ezio Trilogy is at 2+ million. All that when the average salea of the RPG "AC" games is 1.5 million, so more than half the fanbase is gone.
@@scarfaceReaper Or simply Ubisoft betrayed their fanbase, so now it no longer supports them. The last games are not even AC games, as they do not even adhere to half the criteria of the AC Brand Bible, written by AC's original developers back in 2008.
@@paulmayson3129 .....they literally are more than half of what ac is and the lore on isu that was forgotten from ac ezio trilogy is what the real damn series is about and the "rpg" had it
The story lines downfall start8at ac 3 since the og story was going to be done in ac 3 but Ubisoft got greedy and decided to continue it making the ac3 ending and the company not knowing how to continue the series. But the gameplay downfall slowly started from black flag when they wanted to implant the rpg elements slowly in hopes if no one noticing the huge gameplay changes when origins released. If you think about it ubisift tried to slowly implement the rpg mechanics, first they made thr ship missions hard without upgrading your ship then in unity we had to open some skills like double assassination and... And then in syndicate we got a whole skill tree. But ultimately ubisofts plan failed and people still felt the huge changes from the og ac games to rpg styled ones
Best explanation of the 'AC downfall' I've heard yet, subscribed. I don't think there was a downfall, like you said, depending on the person there's just some better and some worse games in the series. Yes the franchise has been milked for a long time. But I'm not mad at it cause it resulted in some really good AC games, that ended up being some of my favorite games of all time. My favorites are Black Flag and Odyssey, and my least favorite is Unity. But I'm sure someone feels the exact opposite way, and that's fine.
I have read the novel adaptation for Assassin's Creed Unity, and I think it is far, far better narrative-wise than the game it spawned from. It actually follows Elise De Le Sare as the main protagonist for the novel instead of Arno, which was a wise decision in my opinion. It really fleshes out Elise as a character, with far more compelling characterisation than ever was the case in the game. I recommend reading Assassin's Creed Forsaken (the novel adaptation for AC 3) and AC Unity novels
After Syndicate the Assassin's Creed was dead... Hack & Slash was already better in every other game Now Woke is killing everything & Assassin's Creed was another victim of it
Look I know modern story in black flag is terrible but the story of Edward the side characters the world and everything else was just so perfect so you could say black flag had bad modern day but great uhh Animus day you could say? Same kinda goes for unity
Personally think Odyssey is where the downfall came as it divided so many fans, it just felt more an ancient greece RPG game rather than an assassin's creed game and i think its where many of the old ac fans began realising Ubisoft dont care for the franchise.
To me, Odyssey should never have been called an Assassin's Creed game, instead being a spin-off title that leaned into the fantastical elements far more. It would have greatly benefited from it
Ive noticed over the years that with AAA games that use different studios to increse production that certain studios outshine others, for example treyarch is the best COD team. Whenever a Quebec game comes out you kinda just have to accept that it will be very pretty and have horrible writing. Ubisoft Quebec was the downfall of AC. Love martys writing and if every game was written by him after patrice left things would not have gotten so bad.
The reason there's no definitive downfall is because we've lost a bit of the spirit every step of the way. AC1 ->AC2: Lost the unique vibes to something that felt more safe an universally marketable AC2->ACB: Now it's just the Ezio money making machine ACB->ACRev: Lost Desilet and the real heart of the modern day story. Plot lines start being abandoned for a quick wrap up to Desmond's story. ACRev->AC3: Lost Ezio for a boring monitone guy. Next gen feels unpolished. And Desmond's conclusion feels rushed and unsatisfying. AC3->AC4: Lost our cohesive modern day and now it's just the history simulator. AC4->ACRo: Lost quality cuz its just a tiny thing tossed to the previous gen gamers. ACRo->ACU: Lost more quality. Its next gen but its a buggy janky mess ACU->ACS: Lost tone. We no longer can take it serious because it doesn't take itself serious. ACS->ACOr: Lost a decade of mechanics replaced with RPG stuff. ACOr->ACOd: Lost the tone even worse and also lost The Assassins and The Creed so... Everything. ACOd->ACV: Lost my patience. All side missions forcibly crammed in between the main missions. ACV->ACM: Actual kind of gained back Assassins and parkour cities and vibes and shorter length and focus ... but come on, we know its not staying. And the new fans don't like any of that stuff anyway because they joined at Odyssey.
I'm be real. Black Flag, Unity (for the most part) Syndicate kept the flames going. and Origins really breathed new life into the game. Odyssey can be 50/50. Valhalla is definitely unique and picked up the ball Odyssey kinds dropped. Mirage stabilized everything.
I rlly only liked Valhalla cuz when it was coming out I was ironically invested in the Ragnar series n Viking shows but I only had the mental power to play it once through cuz of how long it was, n I only liked odyssey because of the mythology in it like the cyclops n the Minotaur, and Atlantis along with its big map
The biggest complaint I have about the RPG’s (only played Origins and Odyssey) is that you can’t assassinate depending on your level and that of your target. It can ruin your flow when the alarm gets raised because you tried taking out someone who’s immune to assassinations at your level. Besides that, AC Odyssey’s story could’ve been a bit better but I still enjoyed it
when desmond died, we didn't experience present day assassination, we just did present day combat, no parkour on the buildings, no assassinating the templars through roofs
Desmond is the heart and soul of modern day. Without him, the modern day storylines makes no sense. And mostly use as a plot device than being a part of an important storytelling.
Besides Liberation, I played every AC game on the first generation of consoles it debuted on (XB360, PS3, etc). I LOVED AC2 and Brotherhood, which probably fed into my fondness of Italy when I visited the country years later. Black Flag is the best pirate game anyone could ever play. I stopped at Rogue after I heard about the shortcomings of Unity. I played Origins a little, but it didn't really hook me so I gave up fairly quickly. The direction the series is going with Shadows is not at all for me, so I'm fine with leaving it in the past. All that being said, I had a great time playing the games that I did. It was an awesome part of my entire gaming life.
Assassin's Creed black flag was a Masterpiece everyway, when people talk about it because they never played it and plus only plays odyssey & the other news ones, i played them all but nothing can't beat assassin's Creed black flag
I think a lot of people do seem to forget it's just a video game, we all love and hate certain things In life but to argue about it won't get anyone anywhere. When I first played assassin's creed I jumped in AC2 before AC1 and I remember enjoying Ezio story, then I bought brotherhood and it changed a lot for me really. Brotherhood Music and Historical setting in rome got me, as someone who loves history etc I just loved it and black flag was fantastic as well. But AC3 is a little underrated, I think a lot of people don't see how good that game was, unity syndicate is ok but not great... But origins, odyssey, valhalla blew me away, as I said someone who loves history seen certain things I just love. 🙂
@paulmayson3129 of course it is, if you didn't want the game then why buy it? games are not ment to be taken at face value and way before youtube and the like we back in the day had something called demos. Don't like it, then don't play it simple but when someone comes along always wanting an argument like you are now. So have zero time for silly behaviour so bye bye.
@@Everybody_Lies2024 I have never bought an AC game since 2015. That does not mean I cannot have an opinion on "AC" games after Syndicate. TH-cam exists, you can view the entire storyline and thus have an informed opinion on it. Same with gameplay, walkthroughs exist, you can understand it without paying Ubisoft (I would not want to contribute in changing the fact that the RPG "AC" games sell less than half the old games did, e.g. with AC3's first week sales being 3.5 million while Origins/ Odyssey / Valhalla's were 1.7 million maximum). If the RPG "AC" games were not part of the AC franchise, I would not spend a single thought on them. But they exist to the detriment of what AC once was, and that is gone, hence the fall of this franchise. AC is no longer AC, and that is due to the RPGs.
Me personally, i never noticed any "downfall" of the series, because I'm too busy enjoying the games. But I do have two complaints: 1. Unity is my least favorite game in the series. I'll agree, the parkour is fantastic, the story would've been a bit better, the combat was okay, but they should've kept the kill streaks. But it focuses too much on multi-player and I prefer single player. 2. Well I do enjoy Assassin's Creed Odyssey, but I agree it just didn't feel like a real Assassin's Creed game. It should've been a sequel to Origins! And I agree, why must we be toxic about this franchise. I get that not everyone can like the same games, but don't be so toxic about it!
When I first played assassins creed (which was unity) I wanted to play a game with a stealth assassin play style. Then these new “assassins” creed games came out I thought “what happen to actually being an assassin” I have hopes for shadows for actually assassin gameplay
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The downfall is more about a media perception, they are good with sales of the game. There a was instead a shift to low quality story, without having a main plot to follow. If they didn't decided to make the animus accessible to everybody, the modern story would be better. Let's see what happens now
Nah it’s gonna be ass, the only thing that looks good is the assassin movements with the girl, n they are using a samurai who couldn’t do his job n protect the person who made him a samurai from being assassinated n was only one for 15 months before being sent off the island for his failure because he failed his lord, personally I’m good with playing ac origins n unity and the games before that until we get one with the assassin’s n Templar’s fighting again but they would need to take a 2-3 year break to hopefully make a good storyline for it.
Nope, people already calling it bad already bad enough even all the other assassins creed TH-camrs 😬, I make assassin's Creed videos and and there and it gotten worse and worse overtime after assassin's creed origins
@@kane_howe138 I’ve played every single ac game n shadows looks like it’s gonna be a shitty ghost of Tsushima, they even said they added you being able to crawl under buildings just like you can in Tsushima, I’m tired of the cultist stuff n just want the classic assassin’s n templars. Just say that your brain dead with the new games because they want a new one every year instead of taking their time to perfect a game because they’d rather milk AC instead of making it good now.
BlackFlag was definitely a turning point for the series. But it managed to balance the assassins aspect and setting well. Unlike the RPG games which are more ancient city simulators, especially odyssey. To me black flag and odyssey are similar (setting and sailing being more prominent) only odyssey gets hate for the lack of “assassin creed”. The series as a whole has an identity crisis, Ubisoft of today doesn’t know what the essence of Assassin’s Creed is anymore, but they sure do know how to make beautiful/accurate open world playgrounds. Perhaps they could take advantage of the split audience and do a spin-off franchise that that’s more historical settings focused but still in the AC world. Smaller scale stories of the assassin/templar conflict through history.
AC Valhalla had alot of untaped potential like the whole raiding mechanic is cool but they could have made it better like why can I only raid certain areas why can't raid actual towns and villages. I was expecting the game to be similar to what you see in the show Vikings! I had so much fun with Black Flag not because of the story but the freedom I had to attack and sink any ship I basically wanted!
I just hope Ubisoft can learn from criticism and not repeat the same mistakes. They don’t seem to build on the things they do correctly either. As long as we don’t get any more disasters like Valhalla I’ll be happy. I’m really excited to finally play as an assassin again that’s not a god.
Just recently started playing these games, only played the first one way back. I have to say that every game seems to be missing something, that little smal thing that if it had the game would be much better, i can't really put my finger on it and it's different in every game but it is present in any of them. The most i enjoyed was probably 3, unity comes close second.
Unity, we still haven’t recovered. That was where the reputation was completely destroyed and still haven’t been able to recover, that was when ubisoft was seen as bad
Unpopular opinion. It was never that great. The best ac games were 8/10s. Good but nothing great. Black flag was cool, but it had waaaay to many problems. The ezio games had a cool story, but the gameplay was ass
Unpopular Opinion: The series never had a downfall, it only has ungrateful and not so open-minded fans. My opinion technically and logically makes sense that's because Ubisoft never suffered low sales when it comes to Assassin's Creed, every game sold well and gave them profit. Probably Shadows might be the first game in the series to have a very low number of pre-orders. For me personally I dont say its downfall but the whole mythical aspect doesn't suit to the brand Assassin's Creed, but nonetheless mythical gameplay is enjoyable but lore-breaking/immersion breaking. So technically speaking the series never had a downfall like Call Of Duty that's because every game sold very well. This is something under appreciated when it comes to Assassin's Creed developers they nail the world design so fuckin beautiful, like honestly no matter what game you play and especially if you are high you will 100% guarented get lost by just walking around in the world and observe every architecture, streets,statues. Good lord every game nails the world design and its fucking beautiful!!! I remember just walking the streets of Paris for solid 2 hours when I was high and I didn't even realise what I was doing till I sobered up.
IMO but it is personal, but i think the only good ac game was brotherhood. Before that and especialy after that it didnt feel like a creed for me. It was always an individual charactar doing their own stuff with no additional ai helpers like those in brotherhood. I wish for a game where you have a team of assassins doing missions together as a brotherhood.
AC died with Desmond. It revived as another beast, I don't care about the modern world part anymore since Desmond and the games are barely related to eachother anymore. Also AC could learn some from Horizon Forbidden West with side quests. In HFW they are all stories in the context of the tribe/area giving the main story more context/depth. That's what side quests should do. I hope AC will copy this approach. On the other hand Horizon takes many years to finish a game.
AC went downhill the moment the most beloved character in AC got a game and twist it into a 3 part open world game where theres little stealth and the ones that are are bad yet ppl still love the character even if it were the problem
Unity is top 3 imo. Had the chance to start the game after the patches and it was amazing. Ac1, ac 2 and unity. Worst ac are syndicate, Valhalla, odyssey.
I think Unity was where it all went wrong; it fell apart at the seams in many ways. These games strongest point was their writing and historical fiction, and Unity could have been absolutely beautiful if they had given it another year or two for its writing (and gameplay systems) to bake. I compare Unity and Cyberpunk 2077 because Unity was really boring and drily written, but Cyberpunk was always well written. One got the redemption it deserved because it was always enjoyable, the other flopped because it wasn't an enjoyable enough game to begin with.
I don't think there is a definitive downfall of Assassin's Creed. The easiest pick for that though is AC Unity. That game is probably the most ambitious Ubisoft ever was in a game. It failed though to many reasons. Bugs, glitches, meh storytelling, downgrade in combat, and the best part of the game is its parkour, which isn't much seeing as it can only carry so much of the game. I think AC can do many things. They can do games like Black Flag, Odyssey, and Valhalla but they can also do games more closely tied to the assassins such as Mirage and AC 1 which are the best examples imo. The world of AC has so much potential with the various cultures, empires, that existed in our history. There can be a mix. A game that focuses on an outsider Viking that works with the Hidden Ones, then a game about a member of the Hidden Ones finding who he truly is, and there can be a game about neither the Templars or Assassins being truly good such as AC 1. I say it's more of a trend to hate on Ubisoft and not the actual downfall of AC because each game has many and I mean many fans. Instead of crapping on each game that doesn't do what you want, acknowledge that the developers do actually have fun creating the games we get. Sure, hate on Ubisoft execs all you want. They put microtransactions in the games, but the developers do show passion in each game. Valhalla was clearly made with the intent of being a Viking game in AC. Unity was clearly trying to be the most ambitious and definitive AC game. I can like both as well for different reasons. AC was close to dying in 2014-15, but it didn't go down hill. Just people hating because AC isn't Red Dead Redemption or Ghost of Tsushima, both games that have more time and money in them than most AC games.
Personally it never actually downfalled per say seeing as the only true argument is based on personal reasons from rpg gameplay to realism the games have never been historically accurate and im honestly tured of hearing that argument from people who clearly never played any of the games and then the rpg gameplay is more a personal reason since ya know thats a matter of your preferred gameplay 🤷 so im gonna go off when did people start complaining about the games most and i noticed it started around unity and unlike the people who defend it 10 years later was a truly bad game weather they like it or not it hurt ubisoft so much they had to stop doing yearly releases and change up there whole formula hints why the newer games even exist at all so i dont think the games went down hill as much as the fan base did they are so devided right now its not even funny
I want the return of mini-maps to the games!!! I prefer them to them to the compass HUDs as they were better at helping with stealth, with letting you know your surroundings, and where your enemies/targets were, and how close they are to you!!!
The downfall was when they killed off main character daime in ac 3 Ac 1 to 3 with the games in between ac brotherhood All 5 games had a story to SAVE TBE WORLD Then killed off SHOULD OFF ENDED there EVERY ac game after that no story no NO big THREAT
The only assassin's creed that i didn't like was valhalla because the combat was bland, stealth was discouraged and much of the story was borring. Every other game in the series was overral a positive experience.
Oh, so that's why odyssey is dogshit. Should've guessed that same guys that made syndicate, made odyssey. Syndicate was at least an assassin's creed game, unlike cringe fest odyssey
Odyssey is the clear pick. Syndicate was not a bad game and it’s wrong to say that’s the game that started it. Odyssey isn’t an Ac game. Neither is Valhalla. So we had almost 6 years of not being an assassin if you combine O. And V.
When Do YOU Think The DOWNFALL Of Assassin's Creed Was?
There's no downfall it just changed and commercially has never been more profitable
The downfall started with unity although I loved the game. Origin is an outlier, it was actually very good. Anything after unity except origin we’re awful.
@@charles-davidberube1174 yeah unity is when everyone started complaining
how can you yap for 30min and not mention AC Mirage
@@charles-davidberube1174 how dare u say that to mirage, I would even love to replay the game bc of the assassin origins
Patrice Desilet being fired
RIP Legend. Well, not rip.. but you know what I mean
OMG THE HIDDEN ONE I LOVE YOUR CONTENT
Dang, the brotherhood is big
Just like when Donald Mustard left Fortnite...
Yes. It certainly seems like Désilet had a big part in what made AC great
Downfall of Assassin's Creed.
-As a cohesive series, I would have to say AC3 was the end.
-For the vision of the series and to maximize its story telling potential, would be when Patrice Desilet left the series.
-However there have been games after those two events that have been considered the best games in the series.
-Simply whatever would be considered a good game after AC3, I would consider stand alone games, no longer creating a cohesive series. The Modern Day segments after AC3 are clear evidence of this.
When AC Origins came out.. in my own opinion, because of the style of gameplay, The RPG Mechanics that's what eventually gave rise to the games like Odyssey and Valhalla. As much as I love Origins, to me that's where Assassin's Creed started to fall short. If the games had ended with say unity or syndicate, I would have been happy.
Origins, was much better then syndicate, unity, rogue. Most people adore origins and call it top 3 in the series. Even AC3 sucked compared to origins.
Origins is like my top 2 or 3 in this franchise.
There is no bad AC game. Some are better than others, but I enjoyed all of them.
People are talking about the "downfall" of AC since AC3, I saw people calling every game since AC3 "bad" and a few years later calling them great (AC3, Black Flag, Unity, Origins, Odyssey). The same can be said about every Far Cry since FC4 and about every Watch Dogs. Although Ubisoft deserve a lot of criticism, I think their games are good and people just love to hate Ubisoft.
I agree 1000%
AC has certainly fallen. AC3's first week sales were 3.5 million, and the average of the Ezio Trilogy is at 2+ million. All that when the average salea of the RPG "AC" games is 1.5 million, so more than half the fanbase is gone.
Well some just hates stuff cuz its popular to hate....just really stupid
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Or simply Ubisoft betrayed their fanbase, so now it no longer supports them. The last games are not even AC games, as they do not even adhere to half the criteria of the AC Brand Bible, written by AC's original developers back in 2008.
@@paulmayson3129 .....they literally are more than half of what ac is and the lore on isu that was forgotten from ac ezio trilogy is what the real damn series is about and the "rpg" had it
The story lines downfall start8at ac 3 since the og story was going to be done in ac 3 but Ubisoft got greedy and decided to continue it making the ac3 ending and the company not knowing how to continue the series. But the gameplay downfall slowly started from black flag when they wanted to implant the rpg elements slowly in hopes if no one noticing the huge gameplay changes when origins released. If you think about it ubisift tried to slowly implement the rpg mechanics, first they made thr ship missions hard without upgrading your ship then in unity we had to open some skills like double assassination and... And then in syndicate we got a whole skill tree. But ultimately ubisofts plan failed and people still felt the huge changes from the og ac games to rpg styled ones
Best explanation of the 'AC downfall' I've heard yet, subscribed. I don't think there was a downfall, like you said, depending on the person there's just some better and some worse games in the series. Yes the franchise has been milked for a long time. But I'm not mad at it cause it resulted in some really good AC games, that ended up being some of my favorite games of all time. My favorites are Black Flag and Odyssey, and my least favorite is Unity. But I'm sure someone feels the exact opposite way, and that's fine.
I have read the novel adaptation for Assassin's Creed Unity, and I think it is far, far better narrative-wise than the game it spawned from. It actually follows Elise De Le Sare as the main protagonist for the novel instead of Arno, which was a wise decision in my opinion. It really fleshes out Elise as a character, with far more compelling characterisation than ever was the case in the game.
I recommend reading Assassin's Creed Forsaken (the novel adaptation for AC 3) and AC Unity novels
After Syndicate the Assassin's Creed was dead... Hack & Slash was already better in every other game
Now Woke is killing everything & Assassin's Creed was another victim of it
@@MenahilHS you right about that 💯
How is “woke” killing everything. Can you explain, I see people tossing around that word so much nowadays.
Tell me u never played Origins without telling me..
I've played every game three times over in the past 2 years, and the only game I can't play through more than the 1st play through was AC Syndicate.
Good analysis and conclusion. Great video. 👍 I hope shadows is one of the good ones.
When Desmond died. Story was over and with it so was the series.
Look I know modern story in black flag is terrible but the story of Edward the side characters the world and everything else was just so perfect so you could say black flag had bad modern day but great uhh Animus day you could say? Same kinda goes for unity
Personally think Odyssey is where the downfall came as it divided so many fans, it just felt more an ancient greece RPG game rather than an assassin's creed game and i think its where many of the old ac fans began realising Ubisoft dont care for the franchise.
To me, Odyssey should never have been called an Assassin's Creed game, instead being a spin-off title that leaned into the fantastical elements far more. It would have greatly benefited from it
Ive noticed over the years that with AAA games that use different studios to increse production that certain studios outshine others, for example treyarch is the best COD team.
Whenever a Quebec game comes out you kinda just have to accept that it will be very pretty and have horrible writing.
Ubisoft Quebec was the downfall of AC. Love martys writing and if every game was written by him after patrice left things would not have gotten so bad.
The reason there's no definitive downfall is because we've lost a bit of the spirit every step of the way.
AC1 ->AC2: Lost the unique vibes to something that felt more safe an universally marketable
AC2->ACB: Now it's just the Ezio money making machine
ACB->ACRev: Lost Desilet and the real heart of the modern day story. Plot lines start being abandoned for a quick wrap up to Desmond's story.
ACRev->AC3: Lost Ezio for a boring monitone guy. Next gen feels unpolished. And Desmond's conclusion feels rushed and unsatisfying.
AC3->AC4: Lost our cohesive modern day and now it's just the history simulator.
AC4->ACRo: Lost quality cuz its just a tiny thing tossed to the previous gen gamers.
ACRo->ACU: Lost more quality. Its next gen but its a buggy janky mess
ACU->ACS: Lost tone. We no longer can take it serious because it doesn't take itself serious.
ACS->ACOr: Lost a decade of mechanics replaced with RPG stuff.
ACOr->ACOd: Lost the tone even worse and also lost The Assassins and The Creed so... Everything.
ACOd->ACV: Lost my patience. All side missions forcibly crammed in between the main missions.
ACV->ACM: Actual kind of gained back Assassins and parkour cities and vibes and shorter length and focus ... but come on, we know its not staying. And the new fans don't like any of that stuff anyway because they joined at Odyssey.
I'm be real. Black Flag, Unity (for the most part) Syndicate kept the flames going. and Origins really breathed new life into the game. Odyssey can be 50/50. Valhalla is definitely unique and picked up the ball Odyssey kinds dropped. Mirage stabilized everything.
I rlly only liked Valhalla cuz when it was coming out I was ironically invested in the Ragnar series n Viking shows but I only had the mental power to play it once through cuz of how long it was, n I only liked odyssey because of the mythology in it like the cyclops n the Minotaur, and Atlantis along with its big map
The biggest complaint I have about the RPG’s (only played Origins and Odyssey) is that you can’t assassinate depending on your level and that of your target. It can ruin your flow when the alarm gets raised because you tried taking out someone who’s immune to assassinations at your level. Besides that, AC Odyssey’s story could’ve been a bit better but I still enjoyed it
when desmond died, we didn't experience present day assassination, we just did present day combat, no parkour on the buildings, no assassinating the templars through roofs
Desmond is the heart and soul of modern day. Without him, the modern day storylines makes no sense. And mostly use as a plot device than being a part of an important storytelling.
How come I didn't get notified
If your notifications are turned on then blame TH-cam for not sending it out🙄
Besides Liberation, I played every AC game on the first generation of consoles it debuted on (XB360, PS3, etc). I LOVED AC2 and Brotherhood, which probably fed into my fondness of Italy when I visited the country years later. Black Flag is the best pirate game anyone could ever play. I stopped at Rogue after I heard about the shortcomings of Unity. I played Origins a little, but it didn't really hook me so I gave up fairly quickly. The direction the series is going with Shadows is not at all for me, so I'm fine with leaving it in the past.
All that being said, I had a great time playing the games that I did. It was an awesome part of my entire gaming life.
Dam, what a baller intro! 😎
Assassin's Creed black flag was a Masterpiece everyway, when people talk about it because they never played it and plus only plays odyssey & the other news ones, i played them all but nothing can't beat assassin's Creed black flag
Black flag was my first ac game and for ever will be one of my favourites
I think a lot of people do seem to forget it's just a video game, we all love and hate certain things In life but to argue about it won't get anyone anywhere.
When I first played assassin's creed I jumped in AC2 before AC1 and I remember enjoying Ezio story, then I bought brotherhood and it changed a lot for me really.
Brotherhood Music and Historical setting in rome got me, as someone who loves history etc I just loved it and black flag was fantastic as well.
But AC3 is a little underrated, I think a lot of people don't see how good that game was, unity syndicate is ok but not great...
But origins, odyssey, valhalla blew me away, as I said someone who loves history seen certain things I just love. 🙂
-- "it's just a video game"
-- uses it to dismiss and silence opinions they do not like.
@paulmayson3129 many want to argue because they feel superior for it, I've past many who didn't like my view on valhalla as I liked it..
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So having an opinion is wanting to "feel superior"? That is an ad hominem.
@paulmayson3129 of course it is, if you didn't want the game then why buy it? games are not ment to be taken at face value and way before youtube and the like we back in the day had something called demos.
Don't like it, then don't play it simple but when someone comes along always wanting an argument like you are now. So have zero time for silly behaviour so bye bye.
@@Everybody_Lies2024
I have never bought an AC game since 2015. That does not mean I cannot have an opinion on "AC" games after Syndicate. TH-cam exists, you can view the entire storyline and thus have an informed opinion on it. Same with gameplay, walkthroughs exist, you can understand it without paying Ubisoft (I would not want to contribute in changing the fact that the RPG "AC" games sell less than half the old games did, e.g. with AC3's first week sales being 3.5 million while Origins/ Odyssey / Valhalla's were 1.7 million maximum).
If the RPG "AC" games were not part of the AC franchise, I would not spend a single thought on them. But they exist to the detriment of what AC once was, and that is gone, hence the fall of this franchise. AC is no longer AC, and that is due to the RPGs.
Bro this might be the realest ac video I've seen bro
wow that's high praise. I appreciate that
I just finished AC I for the first time, now I am playing AC II. I cannot wait for AC Shadows come out.
Me personally, i never noticed any "downfall" of the series, because I'm too busy enjoying the games. But I do have two complaints:
1. Unity is my least favorite game in the series. I'll agree, the parkour is fantastic, the story would've been a bit better, the combat was okay, but they should've kept the kill streaks. But it focuses too much on multi-player and I prefer single player.
2. Well I do enjoy Assassin's Creed Odyssey, but I agree it just didn't feel like a real Assassin's Creed game. It should've been a sequel to Origins!
And I agree, why must we be toxic about this franchise. I get that not everyone can like the same games, but don't be so toxic about it!
When I first played assassins creed (which was unity) I wanted to play a game with a stealth assassin play style. Then these new “assassins” creed games came out I thought “what happen to actually being an assassin” I have hopes for shadows for actually assassin gameplay
i love ur vide exile keep em
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Great to see you back!
Brotherhood specifically. As much as I love the game.
It's the one where Ubisoft realized how much of a money maker the franchise is
The games may have not had much soul put into them but they were still good
Interesting take on the argument, I haven't heard that one before.
Btw, what's the name of the song at the beginning?
It's a non-copyright song that I downloaded from Envato. It's either buyable or available if you pay for a monthly Envato subscription, which I have. (Not sponsored, just being helpful lol) Link to song:
elements.envato.com/dark-forest-DV9DHKM
The downfall is more about a media perception, they are good with sales of the game. There a was instead a shift to low quality story, without having a main plot to follow. If they didn't decided to make the animus accessible to everybody, the modern story would be better. Let's see what happens now
GOATed edit from the exile once again
Goated comment from BenM once again
I think a assassin's Creed shadows might be just as good as origins if they do it right
Nah it’s gonna be ass, the only thing that looks good is the assassin movements with the girl, n they are using a samurai who couldn’t do his job n protect the person who made him a samurai from being assassinated n was only one for 15 months before being sent off the island for his failure because he failed his lord, personally I’m good with playing ac origins n unity and the games before that until we get one with the assassin’s n Templar’s fighting again but they would need to take a 2-3 year break to hopefully make a good storyline for it.
Nope, people already calling it bad already bad enough even all the other assassins creed TH-camrs 😬, I make assassin's Creed videos and and there and it gotten worse and worse overtime after assassin's creed origins
@@_tdv_4027the game hasn’t even come out yet, god you people are so pathetic 😭 always hating on AC games.
@@Masterwarrior567mirage is literally a top 5 AC game but ok 💀
@@kane_howe138 I’ve played every single ac game n shadows looks like it’s gonna be a shitty ghost of Tsushima, they even said they added you being able to crawl under buildings just like you can in Tsushima, I’m tired of the cultist stuff n just want the classic assassin’s n templars. Just say that your brain dead with the new games because they want a new one every year instead of taking their time to perfect a game because they’d rather milk AC instead of making it good now.
There was no downfall, they had some more mediocre titles, that's a fact, but downfall? Nah
BlackFlag was definitely a turning point for the series. But it managed to balance the assassins aspect and setting well. Unlike the RPG games which are more ancient city simulators, especially odyssey. To me black flag and odyssey are similar (setting and sailing being more prominent) only odyssey gets hate for the lack of “assassin creed”. The series as a whole has an identity crisis, Ubisoft of today doesn’t know what the essence of Assassin’s Creed is anymore, but they sure do know how to make beautiful/accurate open world playgrounds. Perhaps they could take advantage of the split audience and do a spin-off franchise that that’s more historical settings focused but still in the AC world. Smaller scale stories of the assassin/templar conflict through history.
I kinda lost interest when they killed Lucy off. And when Desmond died that was the final nail in the coffin for me.
AC Valhalla had alot of untaped potential like the whole raiding mechanic is cool but they could have made it better like why can I only raid certain areas why can't raid actual towns and villages. I was expecting the game to be similar to what you see in the show Vikings!
I had so much fun with Black Flag not because of the story but the freedom I had to attack and sink any ship I basically wanted!
I just hope Ubisoft can learn from criticism and not repeat the same mistakes.
They don’t seem to build on the things they do correctly either.
As long as we don’t get any more disasters like Valhalla I’ll be happy. I’m really excited to finally play as an assassin again that’s not a god.
A loaded question. It hasn’t had a “downfall” yet.
Just recently started playing these games, only played the first one way back.
I have to say that every game seems to be missing something, that little smal thing that if it had the game would be much better, i can't really put my finger on it and it's different in every game but it is present in any of them.
The most i enjoyed was probably 3, unity comes close second.
I remember everything bawling their asses over how Ac1-Revelations were the last good Assassin's Creed, clearly the series ended with Syndicate
The downfall, to me, was a complex and confusing plot and the killing off of Desmond.
Unity, we still haven’t recovered. That was where the reputation was completely destroyed and still haven’t been able to recover, that was when ubisoft was seen as bad
@@diamondarrow4567 you are so right
Origins and mirage were good.
Unpopular opinion. It was never that great. The best ac games were 8/10s. Good but nothing great. Black flag was cool, but it had waaaay to many problems. The ezio games had a cool story, but the gameplay was ass
Although ac origin is good game but I don't like levelling system. Feels like it force to play side missions to gain levels
Unpopular Opinion: The series never had a downfall, it only has ungrateful and not so open-minded fans. My opinion technically and logically makes sense that's because Ubisoft never suffered low sales when it comes to Assassin's Creed, every game sold well and gave them profit. Probably Shadows might be the first game in the series to have a very low number of pre-orders. For me personally I dont say its downfall but the whole mythical aspect doesn't suit to the brand Assassin's Creed, but nonetheless mythical gameplay is enjoyable but lore-breaking/immersion breaking. So technically speaking the series never had a downfall like Call Of Duty that's because every game sold very well. This is something under appreciated when it comes to Assassin's Creed developers they nail the world design so fuckin beautiful, like honestly no matter what game you play and especially if you are high you will 100% guarented get lost by just walking around in the world and observe every architecture, streets,statues. Good lord every game nails the world design and its fucking beautiful!!! I remember just walking the streets of Paris for solid 2 hours when I was high and I didn't even realise what I was doing till I sobered up.
IMO but it is personal, but i think the only good ac game was brotherhood. Before that and especialy after that it didnt feel like a creed for me. It was always an individual charactar doing their own stuff with no additional ai helpers like those in brotherhood. I wish for a game where you have a team of assassins doing missions together as a brotherhood.
AC died with Desmond. It revived as another beast, I don't care about the modern world part anymore since Desmond and the games are barely related to eachother anymore.
Also AC could learn some from Horizon Forbidden West with side quests. In HFW they are all stories in the context of the tribe/area giving the main story more context/depth. That's what side quests should do. I hope AC will copy this approach. On the other hand Horizon takes many years to finish a game.
what songs are u using in this video?
AC went downhill the moment the most beloved character in AC got a game and twist it into a 3 part open world game where theres little stealth and the ones that are are bad yet ppl still love the character even if it were the problem
I look at ac differently now. Good on you. Let’s enjoy games and play the ac games we like.
First the elf, now the name 💀
When they stopped putting assassin's in assassin's creed.
Ac ,3 was down parkour changed on control to holding a . On 1 you had to time jumps and grabs felt more immersion
Unity is top 3 imo. Had the chance to start the game after the patches and it was amazing. Ac1, ac 2 and unity.
Worst ac are syndicate, Valhalla, odyssey.
I think Unity was where it all went wrong; it fell apart at the seams in many ways. These games strongest point was their writing and historical fiction, and Unity could have been absolutely beautiful if they had given it another year or two for its writing (and gameplay systems) to bake. I compare Unity and Cyberpunk 2077 because Unity was really boring and drily written, but Cyberpunk was always well written.
One got the redemption it deserved because it was always enjoyable, the other flopped because it wasn't an enjoyable enough game to begin with.
Oh this gon be a goodie
Damn you're quick! First comment!!
I don't think there is a definitive downfall of Assassin's Creed. The easiest pick for that though is AC Unity. That game is probably the most ambitious Ubisoft ever was in a game. It failed though to many reasons. Bugs, glitches, meh storytelling, downgrade in combat, and the best part of the game is its parkour, which isn't much seeing as it can only carry so much of the game. I think AC can do many things. They can do games like Black Flag, Odyssey, and Valhalla but they can also do games more closely tied to the assassins such as Mirage and AC 1 which are the best examples imo. The world of AC has so much potential with the various cultures, empires, that existed in our history. There can be a mix. A game that focuses on an outsider Viking that works with the Hidden Ones, then a game about a member of the Hidden Ones finding who he truly is, and there can be a game about neither the Templars or Assassins being truly good such as AC 1. I say it's more of a trend to hate on Ubisoft and not the actual downfall of AC because each game has many and I mean many fans. Instead of crapping on each game that doesn't do what you want, acknowledge that the developers do actually have fun creating the games we get. Sure, hate on Ubisoft execs all you want. They put microtransactions in the games, but the developers do show passion in each game. Valhalla was clearly made with the intent of being a Viking game in AC. Unity was clearly trying to be the most ambitious and definitive AC game. I can like both as well for different reasons. AC was close to dying in 2014-15, but it didn't go down hill. Just people hating because AC isn't Red Dead Redemption or Ghost of Tsushima, both games that have more time and money in them than most AC games.
I think I might be the only one but I thought the modern day story for origin through Valhalla was good wasn’t the best but it was cool
I can sort of half agree. I thought it had a good setup in Origins, faltered in Odyssey, then picked back up in Valhalla
@@Grandtemplar305 I agree with that
It got boring after syndicate
To me it's in between Black flag in Valhalla
For me origins was the last ac game I actually liked
You know what game saved it origins
Unity was the last AC game.
bro was yapping for 30 minutes and didn't even mention AC Mirage
It went fownhill after assassins creed revelations/3.
Personally it never actually downfalled per say seeing as the only true argument is based on personal reasons from rpg gameplay to realism the games have never been historically accurate and im honestly tured of hearing that argument from people who clearly never played any of the games and then the rpg gameplay is more a personal reason since ya know thats a matter of your preferred gameplay 🤷 so im gonna go off when did people start complaining about the games most and i noticed it started around unity and unlike the people who defend it 10 years later was a truly bad game weather they like it or not it hurt ubisoft so much they had to stop doing yearly releases and change up there whole formula hints why the newer games even exist at all so i dont think the games went down hill as much as the fan base did they are so devided right now its not even funny
Bro forgot ac rogue?
AC Shadow look realy great oh my god
Assassin's Creed milage it kind of remind me of ac2 and ac1
I want the return of mini-maps to the games!!! I prefer them to them to the compass HUDs as they were better at helping with stealth, with letting you know your surroundings, and where your enemies/targets were, and how close they are to you!!!
*AC3* 🕵
The downfall was when they killed off main character daime in ac 3
Ac 1 to 3 with the games in between ac brotherhood
All 5 games had a story to SAVE TBE WORLD
Then killed off SHOULD OFF ENDED there
EVERY ac game after that no story no NO big THREAT
Assassin's Creed mirage it was pretty good
Ac downfall dosent exist its just ubisoft downfall
All ac is minimum 6/10 games lmao
It didn’t have one
Black flag to be honest
The only assassin's creed that i didn't like was valhalla because the combat was bland, stealth was discouraged and much of the story was borring. Every other game in the series was overral a positive experience.
Ac3 is a hot piece of garbage Connor is cool tho
Oh, so that's why odyssey is dogshit. Should've guessed that same guys that made syndicate, made odyssey. Syndicate was at least an assassin's creed game, unlike cringe fest odyssey
Honestly i thibk assassin's creed shadows wpild make a great assassin's creed game bita terrible samuria game ,buta descent assisisn creed game
Odyssey is the clear pick. Syndicate was not a bad game and it’s wrong to say that’s the game that started it. Odyssey isn’t an Ac game. Neither is Valhalla. So we had almost 6 years of not being an assassin if you combine O. And V.
What downfall ? The actual downfall is you weirdos running that mouth
Cope 😂
I swear nobody made it to my final message at the end of this video