they made it so you if you wiggle on a deers horns in one direction they will be startled and go that way, its very consistent for me in making them do their job
Serves you right. Imagine you run a taxi service and every time someone got in your car they violently threw their bus fair into a wall and in exploded. Of course they didn't give u a ride smh
This is probably payback for you kidnapping one of their own and delivering them to the Apostate Superstructure Abomination to die by their invisible defibrillator.
You're back, it is nice to see you. Just in time since I finally got into RW myself after owning it for so long. As usual, do these things at your own pace, there is no rush.
I don’t know how it works but my theory is that it’s intentional, artificer’s reputation starts at low for Scav so I think it might be the same for rain deer too
"Rain Deer have a reputation system that can be viewed with dev tools, but is ultimately unused, as their behavior is identical regardless of how high or low it is. " ~Rain World Wiki
Rainworld Raindeer: Decent I guess Rainworld Downpour Raindeer: absolutely terrible ai also found out those spears with the tips can turn electric if you hit centipedes with them since the centipedes have an electric charge
wow that's insane. even after they made an update to their AI they almost seem worse now lol... i've also been getting a thing with them just Deciding To Stop when i do the wiggle thing T_T btw what dreams did you do work for? i saw you were listed in the credits as someone who helped with that...!!! whichever dreams they were all drawn really nicely so awesome job
I was having this problem on my gourmand run! I feel like the deer wait longer than they used to and are way more likely to just sit there vibing until you both drown. But they were always kinda like that, so... not really sure if it's new or not.
To be honest... I... Never had a problem with rain deers. They always work. Yeah, they do stop sometimes, because they must be confused by some weirdo suddenly climbing on their antlers. But then they normally walk. I don't know man. Maybe every copy of Rain World is personalized.
deer run off of a reputation system so attacking them and not giving them food as payment probably made them dislike you, therefore intentionally sabotaging you.
Oh god, had the exact same issue with my Artificer accension run. After a solid two hours and not a single Rain Deer cooperating I just capitulated and dev tooled to subterranean.
The more I watch this, the more I want to buy it on the switch, but I don't nintendo online nor access to the e shop which makes me search for a physical copy only for the physical copy to not exist which makes me wanna play it more
oh my, 4 days late and 210 comments... anyways, I dont see anyone mentioning it, but throwing the sporepods, the gas it leaves behind stays for a very long time. the deer at 1:07 was trying to get the *two* spore pods you threw, might have jumbled its brain with priority or something, I have no clue.. Along with 2:08, that is also a place you threw the 3rd spore pod, 4:12 you threw a spore into the worm grass, and they all seem to gather near it, but not go in it. there is probably code added that their AI cant self-get into wormgrass, but they wanted to get the spores, thus a dilemma getting them stuck. extra notes: at 4:44 you threw a downward grenade that popped a spore pod, that is why the 4:58 deer stuck there, the issue seems that spore trails just dont despawn, and can only be consumed, though confused priority, (if there is any) makes them not able to effectively dispose of such trails. Even though you are long past this place, hopefully just throwing 1 spore pod in a open place should be able to surpass this issue, as that is how I got past it.
a lot of this stupidity happened because deers have a reputation system. If you hurt a deer all raindeers this cycle won't help you, i think they should have added more indication that they don't like you, wiggle their head around and try to throw you away for example
don't deer have a reputation system that gets lower by hitting them and not paying for rides ? Everything seemed so deliberate, and the deer started walking at the end when he got fed. This whole thing may have been avoidable
That was indeed rain deer. also honestly nice luck, usually when I stab them once they just start camping pipe entrances or trying to actively shake me off, might be hunters lower starting rep tho
It seems that no one here got it yet. But I have the answer. Do you notice how only the deers that Arti sits on freeze? How they jam their head? You guessed it. They are not happy with all the spearing TT did here.
From my experience new deers almoust never move when you jump on them before they lower their horns while eating. I had the same issue as Artificier after I used an explosive jump like in this video to get on them. Either they bug out or that is intentional (you wanna ride w/o feeding me first - screw you buddy"). Maybe it's just me but when I use the intended way to get on they usually work fine
I kinda feel like with Downpour that the creature AI bugs out more often than in vanilla, specifically with lizards and deer (they like to spin and finger paint with my corpse / they just dont move period).
The rain deer AI is really specific... With its "upgrades" Coming with RWR it became even worse Their inactivity can be explained probably by the ai that thinks that raindeers are always offended at slug cat and it makes them stop and nod when sluggie is riding them
With Artificer it feels more sane to try and bomb jump most of these. The dear have worked somewhat better... it it wasn't for that one damn Echo near the end of this I wouldn't touch this region save for the echo actually in it. Especially the deer sections that Vultures can appear in because deer aren't masochism enough.
I finally figured out why rain deer were that broken as artificier, after going to farm arrays as artificier myself. I think it's because the game spawns so many scavengers for artificier that it can't process the AI of everything and they take a long time to respond/move. They seem to react faster when the scavs haven't spawned yet. It took me like an hour to get past a single rain deer section.
![it's feeding time... [The Nightstriker bits]](/img/n.gif)
The improved deers that Downpour added are actually different creatures called devtools.
It took a whole DLC to get you back. Respect.
I am the dlc
@@turtletoad7725 Turtle Toad is the dlc 👏👏👏
👏👏Turtle Toad is indeed the dlc👏👏
@@turtletoad7725 are you the dating sim too?
@@casualbird7671 now thats a game changer
"Erradic or rapid movement can startle the creature"
In our case, they freeze in fear
the annoyance of the deers is unforgivable
Fr
Dah lord is back!
rain world remix: we fixed the raindeer!
“fixed” raindeer:
They really were fixed for a while! Somehow they got messed up again though...
@@turtletoad7725 NOTHING LASTS FOREVER 💔
@@turtletoad7725 might be because arti starts with low reputation with everyone, works fine for me!
@@didntmeantokillemtwasaaccident Rain Deer rep doesn't change its behavior (unless something has since changed)
@Mini Raptor rain deer rep does change its behavior I'm pretty sure, makes they less likely to come to you or bow down next to u.
TURTLE TOAD HAS COME WITH DOWNPOUR CONTENT
Deers are even more braindead now
you need to feed them now,they freeze in place if you dont
they made it so you if you wiggle on a deers horns in one direction they will be startled and go that way, its very consistent for me in making them do their job
That always seemed to just make them freeze and stop thinking for the rest of the cycle for me
@@turtletoad7725 It's worked for me so far, but I've had a hell of a time with getting them to show up at all... And even more with the on-boarding!
@@turtletoad7725 did you try just really spamming the hell out of that directional key just tapping it like you're trying to smash it
@@turtletoad7725 Same here. I will wiggle as fast as I can and it just stares at a rock until we die.
@@turtletoad7725 Deer.exe has stopped working
RETURN OF DA KING!
You're not gonna believe me but, Queen
@@hmmman2257 i was about to say the same, i forgot where she told her genre...
Serves you right. Imagine you run a taxi service and every time someone got in your car they violently threw their bus fair into a wall and in exploded. Of course they didn't give u a ride smh
This is probably payback for you kidnapping one of their own and delivering them to the Apostate Superstructure Abomination to die by their invisible defibrillator.
Accurate, btw, there are new ways to go that don't require rain deer, sadly it's covered in water.
I can only thathom the potential a theoretically refined co-op has added to Rain World entertainment content.
And this is why a mod was made on the Steam workshop to become completely immune to Wormgrass. Because these deer are unreliable.
OUR LORD AND SAVIOR HAS RETURNED
You're back, it is nice to see you. Just in time since I finally got into RW myself after owning it for so long.
As usual, do these things at your own pace, there is no rush.
I don’t know how it works but my theory is that it’s intentional, artificer’s reputation starts at low for Scav so I think it might be the same for rain deer too
starts low for everyone, yes.
Oh, I thought because he didn't fed them
@@ruffus_da_foxo maybe that too, i dont quite know how rain deer rep works
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Yep, maybe cause he didnt fed them or the stabs
"Rain Deer have a reputation system that can be viewed with dev tools, but is ultimately unused, as their behavior is identical regardless of how high or low it is. "
~Rain World Wiki
That deer was counting the individual strands of wormgrass
shocker... the deer stop moving when met with an explosion... almost like deer in headlights...
Rainworld Raindeer: Decent I guess
Rainworld Downpour Raindeer: absolutely terrible ai
also found out those spears with the tips can turn electric if you hit centipedes with them since the centipedes have an electric charge
5.6k views in 11 hours for a rain world video tells enough about how excited we are with what turtle toad will do with downpour
im not sure if thats a lot for you but i can personaplly speak for myself atleast
He’s back!
Dev commentary "We fixed deer so they dont hug walls forever!"
Deer:
wow that's insane. even after they made an update to their AI they almost seem worse now lol... i've also been getting a thing with them just Deciding To Stop when i do the wiggle thing T_T
btw what dreams did you do work for? i saw you were listed in the credits as someone who helped with that...!!! whichever dreams they were all drawn really nicely so awesome job
gourmand
@@turtletoad7725 aww i loved gourmand's dreams...! they were super unique and awesome you did really well on them:)
yuppieee i'm so glad to see you on youtube again!!!
those deer remember what you did to that one you brung to five pebbles a while back
I will NEVER forget my sheer fucking rage from having to deal with these the first time
This is intentional behavior, of they dont like u, they shake u off and stop moving
The fact you expected the rain deer to be any sense of normal is foolish
Hell yeah! More Turtle Toad content, now featuring Downpour! I am excited.
And I thought deers are supposed to be fixed! I guess the fix didn't work
They were super fixed during beta testing!!!!! And then once the mod got integrated into downpour somehow they got messed up again ):
ARTIFICER DEER ARE THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING IMAGINABLE FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERESTANDS
I was having this problem on my gourmand run! I feel like the deer wait longer than they used to and are way more likely to just sit there vibing until you both drown. But they were always kinda like that, so... not really sure if it's new or not.
I am super happy to see you back!
HUZZAH, YOU'RE BACK!
I had a similar experience with saint... even after everything has collapsed, deers are still useless
Oh my god hello! welcome back! We're so happy to see you again! take care!!!
Funniest video i seen in awhile. Nice to see your content again
Update: the music choice and timing is phenomenal
It looks like your reputation among them is so low they shake their heads to get rid of arti
So glad to see your name in the credits of Downpour!
Deer just deactivate their brains as soon as you landed on them:’)
AHH YOU’VE RETURNED QUEEN!! Welcome back!
Woo yeah!!! I've been waiting for the almighty to return.
RETURN OF THE KING
To be honest... I... Never had a problem with rain deers. They always work. Yeah, they do stop sometimes, because they must be confused by some weirdo suddenly climbing on their antlers. But then they normally walk.
I don't know man.
Maybe every copy of Rain World is personalized.
You are abusive towards them yet you still ask why they won't move for you.
deer run off of a reputation system so attacking them and not giving them food as payment probably made them dislike you, therefore intentionally sabotaging you.
You gotta be more nice to them so they *might* actually do what you want.
Oh god, had the exact same issue with my Artificer accension run. After a solid two hours and not a single Rain Deer cooperating I just capitulated and dev tooled to subterranean.
The more I watch this, the more I want to buy it on the switch, but I don't nintendo online nor access to the e shop which makes me search for a physical copy only for the physical copy to not exist which makes me wanna play it more
TURTLES BACK YAY
oh my, 4 days late and 210 comments... anyways, I dont see anyone mentioning it, but throwing the sporepods, the gas it leaves behind stays for a very long time. the deer at 1:07 was trying to get the *two* spore pods you threw, might have jumbled its brain with priority or something, I have no clue.. Along with 2:08, that is also a place you threw the 3rd spore pod, 4:12 you threw a spore into the worm grass, and they all seem to gather near it, but not go in it. there is probably code added that their AI cant self-get into wormgrass, but they wanted to get the spores, thus a dilemma getting them stuck.
extra notes: at 4:44 you threw a downward grenade that popped a spore pod, that is why the 4:58 deer stuck there,
the issue seems that spore trails just dont despawn, and can only be consumed, though confused priority, (if there is any) makes them not able to effectively dispose of such trails.
Even though you are long past this place, hopefully just throwing 1 spore pod in a open place should be able to surpass this issue, as that is how I got past it.
the garbage with the deer lead me to crawling up to the FA gate from ST
a lot of this stupidity happened because deers have a reputation system. If you hurt a deer all raindeers this cycle won't help you, i think they should have added more indication that they don't like you, wiggle their head around and try to throw you away for example
Yaaay, you're back!!
Damn, deers are so annoying.. One time a deer decided to just fall in the grass. It never stood up and I got stuck..
a brand new turtle toad video? today is a good day
smartest deers ever
don't deer have a reputation system that gets lower by hitting them and not paying for rides ? Everything seemed so deliberate, and the deer started walking at the end when he got fed. This whole thing may have been avoidable
That was indeed rain deer. also honestly nice luck, usually when I stab them once they just start camping pipe entrances or trying to actively shake me off, might be hunters lower starting rep tho
I feel like, based on my experience with them, feeding them makes them more likely to do your bidding.
Glad to see another video from you!
Still love your style of content.
TURTLE TOAD DOWNPOUR POSTING LES GOOOOOO
He’s back
2:05 HEROES NEVER DIE
They just lose karma and start the cycle over again.
I’ve never had much trouble with deer. I guess I’ve just been lucky
HE'S BACK
Whenever I ride a deer as the gourmand, they trip way too many times that I think it’s intentional.
It seems that no one here got it yet. But I have the answer. Do you notice how only the deers that Arti sits on freeze? How they jam their head? You guessed it. They are not happy with all the spearing TT did here.
3:52 what the deer doin?
legit had to stop a run and go back to an old save file to access the downpour stuff because these guys wouldn’t cooperate
you deserve all of this
thanks nacu
"Tweaked deer behavior" yeah we went from a pea to a walnut in brain size
HES BACK!!!
turtle toad more like more like silly toad
hmm looks like someone is still salty about being forced to visit to Five Pebbles
HE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
omg, this looks so painful and it's so accurate!!!
1:50
Bro evolved into a discount dll
I feel like the raindeer is almost like me; avoiding responsebility
The first 30 second sum up Farm Arrays pretty well
You didn't feed it so it refused to transport you and tried to shake you off
this gotta be so sort of anti-exploit system so you HAVE to feed the rain deers
LETS GOOOO TURTLE TOAD VIDEO
The God is back!!!
From my experience new deers almoust never move when you jump on them before they lower their horns while eating. I had the same issue as Artificier after I used an explosive jump like in this video to get on them. Either they bug out or that is intentional (you wanna ride w/o feeding me first - screw you buddy"). Maybe it's just me but when I use the intended way to get on they usually work fine
The pun in the title did not go unnoticed.
It’s been like a year and turtle toad is still dealing with buggy deers, crazy
this game certainly is a game
I died more than once because of raindeer due to freezing to death.
rain deer
I kinda feel like with Downpour that the creature AI bugs out more often than in vanilla, specifically with lizards and deer (they like to spin and finger paint with my corpse / they just dont move period).
Lizards always did that, the deer are more glitchy now since they changed their ai
YES
yooooooooo turtle toad !!!!! return !!!!!
The rain deer AI is really specific...
With its "upgrades" Coming with RWR it became even worse
Their inactivity can be explained probably by the ai that thinks that raindeers are always offended at slug cat and it makes them stop and nod when sluggie is riding them
We’re deers always that bad
They were ok 4 me
With Artificer it feels more sane to try and bomb jump most of these.
The dear have worked somewhat better... it it wasn't for that one damn Echo near the end of this I wouldn't touch this region save for the echo actually in it. Especially the deer sections that Vultures can appear in because deer aren't masochism enough.
I finally figured out why rain deer were that broken as artificier, after going to farm arrays as artificier myself. I think it's because the game spawns so many scavengers for artificier that it can't process the AI of everything and they take a long time to respond/move. They seem to react faster when the scavs haven't spawned yet. It took me like an hour to get past a single rain deer section.
I know your pain so we’ll the deer are so dumb -IQ
i think u gave the deer some brain damage man...
Im not gonna sugarcoat it:
O + V
so true.....
A new turtle toad video?!?!?! :O