Since the key was gone this was the only option left, i tried it and though it took some time and broke some of my drills i finally got it, and now the new one works like a charm!! so thanks!
Many thanks for this video, I just changed the lock on my cx500, I found it easier to drill a small hole in the rivet and then screw in a self tapping screw. It was then easy to pull on the screw to remove the rivet. Thanks again for posting this video.
My bike has fallen over while the steering was locked and the lock is broken inside. I can turn the key as usual but it stayes unlocked. I bought a replacement lock but I could not figure out how to remove bolt. Thank very much Sir!! Thank you.
Wonderful. No way to get a broken key out of the 2016 KTM 500 exc. Followed the video with success. Used a small Dremel and ordinary pliers are sufficient to remove the rivet. Could not have done it without the video. Ride on. Salt Lake City Utah
Very useful video. Thanks to this, I managed to change the steering lock in a EU model XR650R. It is exactly the same with this KTM. One info. While you drill the final stage (large drill), do not have the steering to the lock position (right end). Try to have it a little more centered because, there is a possibility, the old drilled lock to go to the lock position if the steering is at the right end. Any way, if so, then drill with a little larger drill once again (let say if your last drill was 4mm, then put one 5mm and drill again at the same hole). Even if you are in lock or unlock position, the goal is the same. To break the little chrome pin that is 2cm in the lock. And lock or unlocked. this pin is at the same position. Just as the man says. One more thing for the Honda. You do not have to cut the pin that hold the lock to the frame with the wheel and theb catch it and screw it out. On Honda this pin does not have screw threads like the KTM. They are straight along its body. So put, nice and easy, a thin flat screwdriver between the rod and the frame and hit it. The screwdriver will be vertical to the pin. The rod then will pull out the pin. After the first thin flat screwdriver, you can use a little larger one until you make such space between the rod and the frame and then catch the rod with pliers and pull it straight out with the pin on it. It is far more easy this way. Thank you my friend for your video.
Great info. Thanks for the video. However, you just greased that lock... Do NOT use graphite after using GREASE!!! Mixing the two is almost like glue. If you started with grease, you'll want to use an oil or dry lube.
Thank you very much! I ended up removing the rivet with a bottle opener (some kits seem to come without it so I saved it) and used a lockpick to turn and remove the cylinder. Nevertheless I couldn’t have thought about doing these things if I hadn’t seen you explaining how the lock works and how it can’t be opened. Thanks 🙏🏻
@Domenico Stefani Your idea sounds great, but I am not sure how you used the bottle opener? Did you had to drill the rivet first? Or how did it go? Thanks!
Can confirm this works Triumph Bonny 2011, locked and bashed in by thieves. We drilled it out 2mm, 4mm 6mm. Fell right out. The rivet pin just neded a bit of filing. That lock is just brass. Drill at 01.00. Sorted in 10 minutes.
Note, if you don't have a dremel, a small triangular file works on the rivet thing - just file a couple flats on each side and grab it with a vise grip...
My bike didn't have a key for the steering lock. I rode it to a local locksmiths who picked the lock and extracted it in about two minutes. Charged me £6. There was a number on the back of the lock so I was able to order a key and reuse it.
informative video, thanks. would have had no idea where to begin without this video. only issue is the head broke off the rivet when i tried twisting/pulling it out with the visegrips. then had to drill out the rest of the rivet from the hole. not easy to get that little bastard rivet pin out!
so you can withdraw the barrel if you have the key, is that correct? my bike has fallen over while the steering was locked and has jammed it in the locked position, I managed to unjam it but I don't trust the mechanism anymore and want to replace it.
nevermind, i managed to get it out without dremel or drilling, my 07 ktm 625 lock mechanism was a bit different though, it has a spring down inside the very bottom of the hole for the lock, the actual steel "bolt" that pushes into the steering column and had snapped away , I managed to get it out with needle nose players. thanks for uploading this video , I would have been fkd without it, cheers
Very informative video. I watched this as my daughters cg125 has steering permanently locked. A new key she got turns the barrel and it pops out as per normal but the steering lock stays on. How is this possible? Ive sprayed with switch cleaner and the lock / barrel move freely both rotationaly and in and out so I am puzzled as to how the steering lock is staying on. Thanks
You might find the rear has sheared off, unlock it, tip the bike right over so lock is towards the ground and wiggle the handle bars. Had to do it with an old yam dt once.
Just replaced My ktm530excr lock, all went to plan I was chuffed with myself until I realised it doesn't lock at all now it just clicks unlocked when you move the handle bars... lock or frame issue? Any help or input would be great!
Should of made a little tear drop cover before putting rivet back in itll protect your steering lock. I don't no why the factory didn't fit one on your bike but I do no my dt125r has the little cover on it & its same kind of lock has yours & the little cover would fit yours too buddy
Put simply its a ktm and if they can leave anything off to save 2pence they do, then charge you twice the price to put it back on and call it a ktm power part. Look after that dt cracking bike that really miss mine.
Is this possible when its locked? I have problems unlocking my steering lock because for some reason the lock wont pop out when I turn the key and I don’t know what to do now
Yes it is but you need to think where the pin would now be when locked and also be careful you do not drill the lug in your frame which the pin locks against. It will be hard, I have done it but it's not easy 👍
So I failed to get the rivet out of mine with the vice grips it snapped off short so i probably end up just drilling it out such a shitty thing to happen no key from previous owner so had it put into a mechanic after ordering a new key and barrel kit from suzuki and the mechanic made a mess of the key hole now I guess I'll have to try this procedure now apart from the drilling or should I use a screw extractor instead of the drill bit?
Is there a way of getting a key made for this type of lock as I have a 93 Kawasaki klx 250 and the lock is unlocked in the frame but I have no key to remove it from the frame and I don’t want to destroy it if I can help it, cheers 👍🏻
Some guys tried to steel My bike and broke up the steering lock... But They didnt get away😳 Thanks for helping! 🙂Now i got a new lock and one extra lock for the wheel! F**k thiefs!
Sillen Driveway alarm on ebay put the sensor in your garage And the receiver in your bedroom when it goes off youll hear it & their wont then you go out & kick the shit out of them good luck
Will this work if the bike is locked? My bike been sitting for a month in my driveway since i lost the key... got a lock pick gun and it didn't work :( and i couldn't pick it
Hi Richard, try to see if your rivet comes out with a simple bottle opener (I used the thin one from a swiss knife and it worked like a charm). Removing the lock cylinder was a very easy lockpicking job: you will be alright with a lockpicking tutorial on youtube and a couple of tools dremel-ed out from the metal strip found in old windshield wipers. The drill trick might be quicker tho haha
Yes it does but be careful not to damage bike frame as you need to drill in at move of a angle without catching the frame just taking out the locking pin. Not easy.
@@TinkerBod Thanks for your reply, I think I was drilling it out while you were typing. I drilled straight into the middle of the lock with a 6mm drill bit as I didn't have anything smaller that wasn't made of chocolate. I could feel the locks internal wafers breaking up with the drill bit, when I had got through all five I just put a large flat blade screwdriver in the remains of the key slot, slightly turned it and the lock popped straight out. The locating pin was still intact but as long as the locks internal wafers are drilled through there is nothing holding the lock closed. TBH I think going for the centre of the lock is even easier than trying to aim for the pin as you don't need to be that accurate and there is no chance of even hitting the frame lug, also you don't have to go as deep as the pin.
Should of made yourself a little cover out of aluminum before putting rivet on to stop water getting in & seizing your new lock dont no why it doesn't have a cover from the factory in the first place easy anuff to make you have the shape already in front of the lock
Since the key was gone this was the only option left, i tried it and though it took some time and broke some of my drills i finally got it, and now the new one works like a charm!! so thanks!
Thanks for the feedback 👍
The most helpful video I've saw about the removing a fork lock.Congrats.
Thank you...
I like the way you describe the 3D trajectories, systematic and clean workmanship and fantastic dexterity. Very well done!
Flippin heck thats a nice comment, thanks 👍
Many thanks for this video, I just changed the lock on my cx500, I found it easier to drill a small hole in the rivet and then screw in a self tapping screw. It was then easy to pull on the screw to remove the rivet. Thanks again for posting this video.
No problem, glad it helped, cheers 👍
My bike has fallen over while the steering was locked and the lock is broken inside. I can turn the key as usual but it stayes unlocked. I bought a replacement lock but I could not figure out how to remove bolt. Thank very much Sir!! Thank you.
Thanks for the positive comment 👍
Thanks so much I've had new lock kit from honda for 3mths now I have the knowledge to do my xr650r .cheers mate from Australia
Cheers for the positive comments, much appreciated, good to hear stuff like this..
Excellent explanation...calm, reasoned and informative. Thank you very much. Off to the shed now to install new lock on my 500EXC!
Thank you for the kind words & good luck
Wonderful. No way to get a broken key out of the 2016 KTM 500 exc. Followed the video with success. Used a small Dremel and ordinary pliers are sufficient to remove the rivet. Could not have done it without the video. Ride on. Salt Lake City Utah
Glad it helped 👍
Thanks! Had to get a new ignition switch or my Husky 501S. Also got the steering lock to match the new keys. Your video was a huge help!
Great to hear, Cheers!
Very useful video. Thanks to this, I managed to change the steering lock in a EU model XR650R. It is exactly the same with this KTM. One info. While you drill the final stage (large drill), do not have the steering to the lock position (right end). Try to have it a little more centered because, there is a possibility, the old drilled lock to go to the lock position if the steering is at the right end. Any way, if so, then drill with a little larger drill once again (let say if your last drill was 4mm, then put one 5mm and drill again at the same hole). Even if you are in lock or unlock position, the goal is the same. To break the little chrome pin that is 2cm in the lock. And lock or unlocked. this pin is at the same position. Just as the man says.
One more thing for the Honda. You do not have to cut the pin that hold the lock to the frame with the wheel and theb catch it and screw it out. On Honda this pin does not have screw threads like the KTM. They are straight along its body. So put, nice and easy, a thin flat screwdriver between the rod and the frame and hit it. The screwdriver will be vertical to the pin. The rod then will pull out the pin. After the first thin flat screwdriver, you can use a little larger one until you make such space between the rod and the frame and then catch the rod with pliers and pull it straight out with the pin on it. It is far more easy this way.
Thank you my friend for your video.
Thanks for the kind words and your addition glad it helped 👍
This helped me tremendously. I was finally able to replace the lock on my savage.
Super 👌
Perfect video, straight to the point. Thank you.
Cheers 👍
Spot on for what I had to do to a old Honda, only thing is the rivit is bigger on the Honda and the one they gave was tiny.
Very skilled and steady. Very impressed.
Thanks...
Outstanding video, thanks so much, off to change my steering lock :)
WOW, praise indeed, thanks...
Glad I saw this on here broken mine to day thanks
thanks man!! totally useful video for my Kawasaki KLX300R 99
You're welcome!
Great info. Thanks for the video.
However, you just greased that lock... Do NOT use graphite after using GREASE!!! Mixing the two is almost like glue. If you started with grease, you'll want to use an oil or dry lube.
Great point!
Thank you very much! I ended up removing the rivet with a bottle opener (some kits seem to come without it so I saved it) and used a lockpick to turn and remove the cylinder. Nevertheless I couldn’t have thought about doing these things if I hadn’t seen you explaining how the lock works and how it can’t be opened.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Nice work! thanks for the comment.
@Domenico Stefani Your idea sounds great, but I am not sure how you used the bottle opener?
Did you had to drill the rivet first? Or how did it go?
Thanks!
Can confirm this works Triumph Bonny 2011, locked and bashed in by thieves.
We drilled it out 2mm, 4mm 6mm. Fell right out. The rivet pin just neded a bit of filing.
That lock is just brass. Drill at 01.00. Sorted in 10 minutes.
Note, if you don't have a dremel, a small triangular file works on the rivet thing - just file a couple flats on each side and grab it with a vise grip...
Thanks I got a brand new bajaj re which nobody even the dealer could ever lock. Least I know a little about the solution now
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My bike didn't have a key for the steering lock. I rode it to a local locksmiths who picked the lock and extracted it in about two minutes. Charged me £6. There was a number on the back of the lock so I was able to order a key and reuse it.
informative video, thanks. would have had no idea where to begin without this video. only issue is the head broke off the rivet when i tried twisting/pulling it out with the visegrips. then had to drill out the rest of the rivet from the hole. not easy to get that little bastard rivet pin out!
You done well getting that out they are quite hard, that would have right pee'd me off.
so you can withdraw the barrel if you have the key, is that correct? my bike has fallen over while the steering was locked and has jammed it in the locked position, I managed to unjam it but I don't trust the mechanism anymore and want to replace it.
nevermind, i managed to get it out without dremel or drilling, my 07 ktm 625 lock mechanism was a bit different though, it has a spring down inside the very bottom of the hole for the lock, the actual steel "bolt" that pushes into the steering column and had snapped away , I managed to get it out with needle nose players. thanks for uploading this video , I would have been fkd without it, cheers
Cheers, I'm glad it helped 👍
Thanks tinkerbod, great vid Good Buddy! Many thanks for sure. Al
Cheers 👍
Thank you so much for this amazing tutorial
Thank you, much appericated.
Thanks, I wad going to drill the center with a bigger drill. This works much better.
Excellent!
@@TinkerBod The same from me.👍
Cheers !!
Very informative video. I watched this as my daughters cg125 has steering permanently locked. A new key she got turns the barrel and it pops out as per normal but the steering lock stays on. How is this possible? Ive sprayed with switch cleaner and the lock / barrel move freely both rotationaly and in and out so I am puzzled as to how the steering lock is staying on.
Thanks
You might find the rear has sheared off, unlock it, tip the bike right over so lock is towards the ground and wiggle the handle bars. Had to do it with an old yam dt once.
Just replaced My ktm530excr lock, all went to plan I was chuffed with myself until I realised it doesn't lock at all now it just clicks unlocked when you move the handle bars... lock or frame issue? Any help or input would be great!
If you have used the genuine lock check the frame to make sure the track/keyway it runs in is clear 👍
Did you find the problem?
Should of made a little tear drop cover before putting rivet back in itll protect your steering lock. I don't no why the factory didn't fit one on your bike but I do no my dt125r has the little cover on it & its same kind of lock has yours & the little cover would fit yours too buddy
Put simply its a ktm and if they can leave anything off to save 2pence they do, then charge you twice the price to put it back on and call it a ktm power part. Look after that dt cracking bike that really miss mine.
Is this possible when its locked? I have problems unlocking my steering lock because for some reason the lock wont pop out when I turn the key and I don’t know what to do now
Yes it is but you need to think where the pin would now be when locked and also be careful you do not drill the lug in your frame which the pin locks against. It will be hard, I have done it but it's not easy 👍
@ could you maybe explain a little how the locking mechanism works? I have no clue and I’m quite scared to mess things up
Or do you have any idea on why it could be stuck
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks man, i appreciate it.
Glad I could help
So I failed to get the rivet out of mine with the vice grips it snapped off short so i probably end up just drilling it out such a shitty thing to happen no key from previous owner so had it put into a mechanic after ordering a new key and barrel kit from suzuki and the mechanic made a mess of the key hole now I guess I'll have to try this procedure now apart from the drilling or should I use a screw extractor instead of the drill bit?
So I did this and the rivet snapped off and is stuck. Anything I can do?
Super Danke 👍
But people who steal are not in their right mind..Great tutorial though. Thank you
I just broke the fucin rivet… how do i do now 😢
Drill it out with a left hand drill bit, but make sure its a soft pin first.
Is there a way of getting a key made for this type of lock as I have a 93 Kawasaki klx 250 and the lock is unlocked in the frame but I have no key to remove it from the frame and I don’t want to destroy it if I can help it, cheers 👍🏻
Sorry no idea, maybe someone can help you in the comments, best of luck. 😁
Thanks so much!
You're welcome!
can you link where you got the steering lock from?
Fowlers of Bristol Uk parts department online.
thank you got it out no problems Kauai KTM Hawaii
Super 👌
I have a husqvarna that I need to do this on. Is that part number across the board? I have a 2008.
Hi, Not sure sorry.
Some guys tried to steel My bike and broke up the steering lock... But They didnt get away😳
Thanks for helping! 🙂Now i got a new lock and one extra lock for the wheel!
F**k thiefs!
Sillen Driveway alarm on ebay put the sensor in your garage And the receiver in your bedroom when it goes off youll hear it & their wont then you go out & kick the shit out of them good luck
Weak,useless,forgot to unlock mine and rode off ,broke very easily!😠
Will this work if the bike is locked? My bike been sitting for a month in my driveway since i lost the key... got a lock pick gun and it didn't work :( and i couldn't pick it
It will but remember the pin will not be in the same place because it is in the rotated locked position so you will need to allow for this.
How much would you charge to do mine ??
Sorry, its not something i would be able to do.
Hi Richard, try to see if your rivet comes out with a simple bottle opener (I used the thin one from a swiss knife and it worked like a charm).
Removing the lock cylinder was a very easy lockpicking job: you will be alright with a lockpicking tutorial on youtube and a couple of tools dremel-ed out from the metal strip found in old windshield wipers. The drill trick might be quicker tho haha
@@domste Your idea sounds great, but I am not sure how you used the bottle opener?
Did you had to drill the rivet first? Or how did it go?
Thanks!
What year is this bike
2017 but they span many years for all makes
yeh thieves just twist the bars hard and snap the fragile little steering lock
thanks for this vid..
Thanks, no problem
Does this method still work if the steering lock is in the locked position?
Yes it does but be careful not to damage bike frame as you need to drill in at move of a angle without catching the frame just taking out the locking pin. Not easy.
@@TinkerBod Thanks for your reply, I think I was drilling it out while you were typing. I drilled straight into the middle of the lock with a 6mm drill bit as I didn't have anything smaller that wasn't made of chocolate. I could feel the locks internal wafers breaking up with the drill bit, when I had got through all five I just put a large flat blade screwdriver in the remains of the key slot, slightly turned it and the lock popped straight out. The locating pin was still intact but as long as the locks internal wafers are drilled through there is nothing holding the lock closed. TBH I think going for the centre of the lock is even easier than trying to aim for the pin as you don't need to be that accurate and there is no chance of even hitting the frame lug, also you don't have to go as deep as the pin.
@@martinoconnor4314 do you have any picture of how to drill at the center ?
Should of made yourself a little cover out of aluminum before putting rivet on to stop water getting in & seizing your new lock dont no why it doesn't have a cover from the factory in the first place easy anuff to make you have the shape already in front of the lock
I agree, other bikes i have had have always had them. Its just another way ktm can save a penny. I surprised they are not a ktm power part for £50
@@TinkerBod that's ktm for you expensive pal just like yamaha but still easy anuff to make one you'll just ofto get yourself a new rivet if you do
just buy one and use the longer rivet.