Vision Jet Trip from Illinois to California (FUEL CONSERVATION, FBO PLANNING, PERFORMANCE)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.พ. 2022
- It’s always a fun opportunity to fly with your Dad somewhere, especially across county! On this trip we flew a Vision Jet from Chicago to California (KSNA). You’ll remember my dad from our TKS system video!
It was really cool to fly and have a good time with him. There were a few scenarios that we had to work through. Hopefully you can bring some of these thoughts to your flying in a scenario that could be similar!
Thanks so much for watching!
- Al
Dads rock!!!!
He says thank you!
Father-son Vision jet time-priceless!
Approach speed and picture only slightly faster than SR22. What a spectacular airplane!
It was a lot of fun to share that with my dad! Very special. Now my mom wants to go next!
Great video. It’s been 40 odd years since I last flew. Still miss it heaps. Enjoyed your vision and commentary. Thanks for Australia
Thanks so much!
The sights from the cabin of the CF90 are unmatched, truly amazing. Some jets much more expensive do not offer those visuals. Great video, thank you for sharing.
Congratulations on the promotion Al! I can only imagine the joy flying the Vision Jet must bring. And to be able to fo it for a living is great! Once again, congrats!
Thank you for your support! It is a lot of fun and even better sharing it.
Very cool finding your channel! Nice to see the walk around! A truly impressive jet! Such a clean looking panel. Just an amazing sunset. Great descriptions too! You seem like a very down to earth guy and that is amazing! Blue skies!
ThAnks for joining the channel! Appreciate it, and enjoy!!
Appreciate all the details you ad.. it’s all interesting
Thanks for posting this
I Alan hope you and dad are well and enjoying life to the full. What a beautiful day for you. Nice to here you had a brilliant day with dad.i hope you bought him a breakfast. Take care happy days phil. 👍🇬🇧🤘
Thanks Phil!
Al, your dad did an amazing job of landing. As I sat in front of my computer monitor at home, I didn't feel a single vibration! As one famous flight instructor taught, "If your passengers can feel it, then you've done something wrong!"
Great videos Al! I am a few months late, but congratulations on your new opportunity at Cirrus and business on the west coast! It must have been great to share the recipes with your father too… I like the pause and ten count prior to boarding the plane for departure. It is certainly bad form for a pilot to taxi over wheel chocks, melting an AOA cover or sucking an engine inlet cover through the N1 fan. Best of luck and maybe I’ll see you at the Vision Center.
I am a pilot and I watch a number of videos and pretty good ones. I must say that yours are my favourite. Your content is great. We get to see a lot of the flight. I also have flown and love the vision jet. Just a great representation of a great airplane and great content. Thanks and keep it up! Congrats on the move west. I live in Seattle and fly the SR22T on the west coast. Fun stuff.
Thanks so much! Appreciate your feedback and nice thoughts. It’s fun sharing! I’ll be up in Seattle quite often so I’ll definitely love to meet up soon! Keep on flying! Al
Al. Congrats on your new assignment As a first time SR22 owner I have enjoyed your videos, especially your pro tips on cleaning and door closing. All the best to you.
Great video Al, good luck out west! I’ll never forget my first flight with you in a G6 SR 22, blue skies buddy!
Great job, Al. Your videos are excellent; interesting AND informative. You are obviously intelligent and articulate with great instructor ability. Well done on taking your dad with you. He clearly enjoyed it, especially letting him fly left seat. You’re a good son and a credit to your parents.
Your highly interesting focus on operation of the Vision Jet is so good that I could probably fly it even though I’ve never even seen one in person. This makes your videos extra valuable. It’s so absorbing that it’s almost like being there in the cockpit with you.
The Garmin glass is excellent, isn’t it? In a couple of more generations, you’ll just climb onboard, strap in, check to see that your flight plan was loaded properly, push the start button and request precision to taxi. Kinda like driving your car. It’s almost like that now. Amazing. When I learned to fly there were no glass cockpits. It was analog instruments and navigation using paper charts and mechanical flight computers. The term “stick and rudder flying” was real. It was great fun but I wouldn’t go back. I know a lot of guys like old stuff but not me. I’ve owned some awesome cars in my life but none of them are even close to my new Denali. Spare me from the old stuff.
Anyway, I like the Vision Jet but your videos are better. 😎👍👍
Really enjoyed watching your video, Al. It's been a true privilege to watch you go from the little kid who just wanted to learn to fly, then witness the support of your family to get you educated (including Arkansas!), and now to see you evolve a wonderful career for yourself. Cheers to you Al. You make me smile.
No doubt that you helped inspire and fuel my passion! Thank you for being a part of that Barb!
What an exciting new journey for you! Blue skies!
That brings back a memory of my dad and I flying from DeKalb IL to Daytona Beach FL. I needed some cross country time for my commercial and he had time off. Weather wasn't the best when we left so he came along. When we landed he talked to ground and referred to us as United (can't remember the tail #), ground came right back with United # taxi to.....
Good times, was back in 89.
Congrats on the new opportunity, Al. Enjoy the west coast.
I enjoyed following you on this journey west. Best wishes for success in 2022.
It’s fun to share!
Not a pilot yet these videos are incredible. And the Vision? Wow. Thanks
Great video Al! That jet is sick :0 Avionics are cutting edge.
Big Dan! What a great video, Al. Keep up the great work!
Dan is certainly the start of this video!
F70 that’s my neighborhood. Always love watching planes come and go.
Awesome airport you live near!!
Glad to see you back! The best videos on the web
Nicely done. I was born at the Santa Monica Hospital so it is always good to see people travelling to SM.
me too
You and your dad looked awesome flying right you and pops .
Great video! Love the SF50!
there is always a lot to learn from your videos
I learn a lot from you!
Cool Dad AL and great landing, it didn’t look aligned but it was perfect aligned when landed
Just started learning to fly out of griffith. Cool video. I see you ran from the latest snow storm I just dug out of ...smart man LOL
That’s awesome! Great job on starting!!!
You landed just ahead of me at JVY yesterday. When I saw plane while I was refueling I thought I recognized the tail number from this video. Looks good in black.
Great video Al. On my descent profile I use pattern altitude and make it 2 miles away from the field. That way if I am cleared for the visual it gives me an altitude that I should be at and helps me configure the airplane.
That’s a great idea. I’m going to start trying that! Definitely value that as you are teaching in these every day!
Congrats Al! Will miss the SR videos but jets are cool too!
Thank you Chad! Still have a few SR tricks and videos coming!
Nice! Beautiful plane! Cool dad! New subscriber!
He’s a great dad!!
Thanks for sharing ...
the black color of the jet is beautiful.
A black livery looks sooo good on any plane, but especially good on the Vision Jet.
P.S.: That landing at Denver was pure Butter.
Al, here’s a little tip for you on setting up a vertical profile from the flight levels, center will descend you to 11,000 feet MSL before they usually turn you over to a Tracon or a smaller sector, therefore set your VNAV 40 nautical miles short of your destination at 11,000 feet, you’re likely to find from flight level 300 you’re looking at about 110 miles out. Give it a try
Thanks for explaining flying so close to the barber pole !
If things go well maybe in a year or two I’ll be getting a demo flight from you
Excited for the day!
I have the ForeFlight basic app even though I’m not a pilot and it was so much fun to see the various airspace divisions - living in Manchester U.K. I’m closer to Liverpool then I am to Barton and I’ve always wanted to hop across the Irish Sea to Dublin to visit family there - one of my neighbours back home in Ireland was an Aer Lingus captain for many years and his son owns a Piper Arrow out of Dublin Weston so he flies with the Connaught Aero Club into Knock Airport in the West of Ireland and they go to the South of France quite frequently, as well as to the Aran Islands off Galway, down to Kerry and up to Sligo and Donegal 🇮🇪☘️🇺🇸❤️
Hey Al, great videos! Really enjoy how much you go into very fine detail with everything. Have you ever thought about raffling off a chance to fly in a Vision or 22?
Glad you enjoy! Neat idea, I’ll have to think of something like that. Need to make sure it’s legal first!
Wish I could have met up at KAPA! Great Video!
Great video!
Congrats. I had a turbo cirrus out of DPA and moved it out to KFUL a couple years ago. You will like it out here. Let me know if you come out to Fullerton. I love it in SoCal versus the past 10 years flying around Chicago. fly to KSNA all the time too. I enjoy your videos. Dave
Awesome. That sounds pretty encouraging! Excited to be out here.
A friend of mine had a vision jet out at SNA…Robert Drenk….bought it new and let me fly it. He just traded it in for an M-2. There are so many more places to go and things to do out here vs DPA. Within two hours of KFUL in turbo cirrus the usefulness of plane is so much better. I’m going to Vegas tomorrow for the afternoon….that not a 1:15 hr flight out of DPA. Ha. You will love it. Assuming you are using ACI at SNA. Hangar space tight all over
That landing your dad did into centennial i could have litterally put some bread on the runway and your dad would have buttered it perfectly no overrun no mess ❤️ not often you see a landing that perfect (even in smaller jets/GA aircraft)
Bucket list item is to fly in a vision jet. KC75 should land an SF50 😉 I like your video style here. Very informative and kept my interest and attention the whole time
Thanks so much! C75 is a great airport!!!
Al would you consider doing a video on the transition from a 22 to a vision jet? Such as level of difficulty, use an example of most say it’s a difficult level of 2 out of 10. How many flight hours are required before the transition, etc.
theres my flight school! KPWK
I see the building! Nice flight. Hope to run into you someday if you're still in the Chicago area!
Great video.
The camera never stops. Please hold still on a panel so we can see the settings. Also would be nice to see GS on one of the bars on top. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback
It would be so cool if they could configure a restroom/head on the plane!!! There is soo much room if they took the back seats out.. either leave just the 2 front that you could move back, or put 2 seats behind the front that recline for sleeping and trading off pilots in the air. I’m always looking at configuration’s on the Cirrus jet2 for cruising around the world.
Just a note on the cowl anti ice: at the airline we have it on when we're in visible moisture/clouds from +10C to -40C. Below that, it's too cold for ice to form and we turn it off. I see you're at -50F in that clip, which is -45C, so not really needed at that point.
Great audio. The lapel mic sounds great👍🏾
Glad it sounds better.
Hey great video. Why would you have such a short hop of 400NM to LNK and not go direct to Denver?
In the 727 we used to say the barber pole is a target, not a limit 😂
Awesome as always Al. Are the TOLD cards available to purchase online anywhere?
AL I just started watching your videos today and it was cool to see that you visited my home airport of KLNK. I do have a question: Have you ever flown into KJAC?
Go for it “Fly Boys”
Amazing video 😊 create more videos like this 👌🏻😉
Nice content. The only issue I see with these long flights is that you have to land to use the bathroom, lol.
Always a concern!
Very cool trip! How do you find the fuel consumption over-all? The last leg Santa Monica to John Wayne is about 40 miles, that took about 40 gallons?
The consumption overall was pretty low from SMO to SNA. It would take roughly that! 30-40 gallons depending the routing and traffic. It was awesome out there.
Nice video, can you answer these questions :What is the useful load when you travel with 5 adults and 2 kids, range, speed ?. Kind Regards.
You need to show more!!! Take off’s, interior, landings. Get some stabilized camera’s throughput the plane. It’s a Beautiful Jet, I love the color!!!
but i dont know if the safe return feature and the wifi feature is available in arabia. or its just available in the states.
Al, why did you have to make so many stops? I thought the vision jet had 1200nm range with 2 people?
What was your flying tie on this trip?.
Nice vid,
Lee
This is so amazing ! 1. You're able to fly planes with your dad, 2. You're flying a vision jet, 3. What an amazing job !
I ate at that place at Denver centennial, great food.
Question on the vision jet: Is there no vref speed on the tape to input to show up?
This was amazing video Al!
Vref shows up automatically on the tape.
@Jon Kagan excellent ,thank you
I know I'm 7 months late but is this your vision jet or someone else anyway great video👍
These modern jets do everything for you, no fun in that! Do you fly for the airlines or just GA flying?
I suggest you obtain instruction on the use of engine anti ice. Contact the engine manufacturer asap.
I picked up that I want one 😀
Al
Would it be possible to download one of those SF50 take-off and landing cards?
Patrick from Albuquerque
How do you get foreflight alerts on your watch?
Quick tip…that lapel microphone works great if you simply set it inside your headset ear cup…then you can hear ATC audio and your intercoms
This is a cool trick. I’ll play around with that. Thank you!!
Just happened to see a vision jet on flight radar flying over the coast Wednesday evening
Awesome!!
👍
No landing and take off in the beginning?
Interesting that the jet takes jet a-? In the turboprops I’m in I have to be +. Are the tanks heated?
Yes! There is a fuel / oil heat exchanger that warms the fuel where prist is not needed.
@@al.waterloo what fuel temperatures do you usually see?
Hi there my friend what are the fuel costs everything you land how much does it very in cost .?????
Al I think when you get some real mountain wave you won’t be so happy being that close to max Mach.
I saw a guy start up and try to pull away he forgot to untie the tiedown rope - take that extra minute to do a sanity check ✅
That guy may have been me! It’s important to count to 10!
this jet is amazing its cheap. the operation cost is low. and flying it is fun. and one may enjoy it very much. ill buy it. soon. inshallah.
Great video. You left out the most important part. Landing and take off.
As usual great video im guessing you have no time as a flight instructor or do you?
Some argue that I do and some argue that I don’t!
Showing a simulator view on the landing in Denver??
Al do they got any hanger spots available in Schaumburg? Thanks!
I know there are hangars but unsure of availability.
where do you get those hoodies?
i hope they will help me from the situation am in now. and things may change in the near future.
isn't Pewaukee ( its former name ) hard to fly in and out of since it is only about 10 miles north of O'hare ?
Correct!!!
Adding the takeoffs and landings to your videos would be a plus. I know, they are the most busy for you, but they are the most exciting parts. Get a GoPro or such other camera?
It would be really nice to do that. I am conflicted if I should be adding those or not. It’s entertaining and informational but I want to make sure I’m safety focused. Also, I only record these on my phone and do all my editing and posting on my phone. I keep it simple so I can make sure I keep content going.
How can I get a clear photo of that sf50 fuel planning worksheet you had on your knee board ?
You can download it here:
www.dropbox.com/s/47a9u3034l3wvmm/SF50%20Flight%20Data.pdf?dl=0
@@al.waterloo thanks brother!!!!
Could you do an economic cruise video?
Al: I want one of these jets int time for the weekend. Please send me the DocUsign to my assistant ASAP.
Easiest sale ever!
195 is economy cruise at 30k? What is the fuel burn at that speed and height?
We were not at our Econ cruise. It’s a very different power setting than what we were at. You could expect a TAS around 250-260kts and a a fuel burn in the 40gph’s. We were just on the edge and pulled back a few knots to 295 KTAS. That was all we needed.
My dream plane ! Currently in flight school to change careers. I want to fly in one so bad!! I'm currently in St Louis. Is Chicago the closest place to me that has vision jets? Definitely worth the drive for me!
St Louis is a great spot! Keep going you’ll look back on your training as a great time in your life. Where are you learning to fly? Check out Mistwood Aviation out of KSUS
@@al.waterloo thank you for that information! My flight school is at Creve Couer airport called Piston aviation. Part 61 school. I'm new to the mid west and realizing that the weather here is terrible. Had to cancel multiple flights. I'm currently in their zero to hero program working on my commercial. I'm a cop at the moment and hate it lol and am looking to change careers. This was best decision I've ever made wish I would have done this instead of go to college and get a degree I didn't need lol.
@@LoveyMcFly911awesome! When you are ready for your checkride give me a call. I’m also a DPE - waterloodpe.com
How much fuel does a Vision Jet hold?
Al. What are you editing your videos with?
I film, edit and post from my phone only. Just using iMovie.
@@al.waterloo That's awesome. I have been wanting to do some aviation videos myself and the editing has been the daunting bit of learning I need to just make myself do. Thanks for letting me know that you keep it simple.
No take off footage?
how much do u tip the fulers??
Typically I will do nice things for the fuelers. I don’t tip regularly but I will send pizzas, give gifts etc. I’ll definitely tip if there is something abnormal or Herculean that they do.
Is a single engine jet a concern with an engine out. Just like with a piston engine single. I will never be able to buy a jet. But that would be my concern for never getting one of these!
With the Safe Return and Cirrus Airframe Parachute system, it should not be as big of a concern!
@@al.waterloo very legit point. Is safe return proprietary? Will Cirrus ever sell that to other manufacturers in the future?