I want to take a moment to say thank you for sticking with Elite even through the lows. You've kept a level-headed, balanced perspective throughout everything, and I really appreciate it. It's clear you do what you do because you love it. Elite's one of my favourite games and I'm looking forward to seeing what the future holds.
@@TheBuurPit yes, thank you for remaining positive. and also you were the 1st to tell me about geforce now, so i could continue the adventure since im still stuck on xbox. ive been playing for years and still trying to find raxxla
I still would love ship interiors, be it our own ships or not. Docking in an abandoned station or ship, walking through empty halls and haunted locations... I'd love it. There were so many story locations we could only ever see from the outside!
So why some people are so obsessed with ship interiors??? You walk around 5-10 times and it becomes just the background. How does it add anything? You want ship interiors only to spend 3 seconds during exiting and entering the ship? That's dumb, I hope Frontier won't add ship interiors ever.
I think base building and real player presence in the world is what the game really needs - Right now we're pretty much just observers and the weak driving force behind the occasional GALNET article and barely-functional station markets
Fleet carriers are basically a prototype version of base building, albeit within a limited framework and customisation. It effectively gives players their own mobile space station, and so far it works well, especially those whose carriers never travel anywhere. I see base building as a more permanent version of fleet carriers, with greater scope for expansion by creating a vast city filled with all sorts of buildings and amenities. A FPS version of SimCity if you will.
I hope base building is coupled with limited ship interiors, like you can use your ships as temporary construction bases to then build your actual base with
I think we just need to give up on interiors happening. I dont think it will and if it does it would be extremely restricted in the same way carriers are. Ship can't be moving (either landed or engines turned off) and would teleport you to your seat when things actually happen.
@@GigachudBDEthey could do a workshop where the stairs are on medium and large and move the blue circle to there so you can only use it when your landed and have somewhere to craft the bits for your base. It wouldn’t be ship interiors but would work nicely as a starting point for base building so you don’t have to keep popping in and out of your ship for stuff you can just go up the stairs to the workshop. Wishful thinking I know but would be nice
Just consider player squadrons able to explore distant locations, then build and support their own bases on them, pushing farther outside the bubble (and at the same time expanding their own political allegiances), along with a threat of rivals (as well as the occasional Thargoid interruption) that can all be resolved in-game...massive! This could be an EVE competitor, with its coordinating all levels of gameplay, as well as tantalizingly close to the all-encompassing gameplay promised by Star Citizen. - And all of it in an entire Milky Way galaxy the others don't (and can't) emulate. This would solidify the epic nature of Elite for years to come.
Would love to see base building. Maybe FDev plans to incorporate it with the Powerplay 2.0 work, where if a player has built up enough reputation/influence with a particular faction, then that faction could somehow 'sponsor' the construction of a new base. It would be very cool to see bases being established in the far-flung regions of the galaxy, not to mention the establishment of multiple bases to form colonies in specific regions (think Azura Initiative for example).
def hoping for abandoned settlements and other things being explorable, new missions, stories content around that, like the generation ships, other things along those lines.
Oh man, that would be awesome if Player Owned Stations would become a thing. I'd definitely set up a station out in the middle of nowhere for explorers to come to so that they could sell their data, rest, repair, and refuel.
I hope base building *isn't* the unannounced feature, and that Elite goes back to it's *roots* by adding more gameplay to the flight element of the game. I'd still much rather see atmospheric worlds with weather and biomes, 'proper' strike missions against ground targets, procedural cities, NPC crews and ship interiors. But... it's going to be base building isn't it?
I'd personally rather have fully/thick atmo worlds w/flora and fauna than bases, however, base building would bring me back. Ship interiors is the other big thing, but while I'd love that, it wouldn't bring me back. Base building makes too much sense with the potential hooks into Powerplay, economy, etc
yes interstellar like stuff is something i care a lot abt waves fog volcanic geiser thunders clouds earthquaking grounds swamp like dust devilsVery scary stuff should be made
I agree. Not interested in building anything, I just want to fly around, visit beautiful worlds with weather and biomes. The planets in ED currently look so dull compared to SC...
My fbi agent watching me google “Most destructive type of termites” “Where to buy Fomosan Termites.” “Fomosan Termite queen enclosure.” “What days is the UN open” “UN building floorplan”
I hope for a possibility to land on more types of planets, but base building or ships interiors (for people who want to treat their ship as a mobile base) would make me happy as well. Well, we will see. I'm just glad that SOMETHING is finally happening,
yes but they must allow ship helm to be sharable .. u can have shared ships or 1 ship.. or at least do this on fleetcarrier i dont play for some days my friend carries it on we share a ship... amazing
All I really want is to be able to find new alien friends, maybe picking up and industrial-era civ's radio signals, or finding an inhabited earth-like world on the edge of an expanding civilization. It might be fun IDK, probs not happening though :(
Am I the only one who also says "I'm cmdr buuuuuur" at the beginning of the video? 😆 Great video though, hope base building does come to the game as I think it would also give a neat level of "being out in the black" and you're the soul person surviving out in space and not just jumping around in your ship. Almost like a mission going to Mars in today's terms. Kind of gives a role playing feeling to it. Also as others have said, it would be cool if they integrated it so you can meet and see more players out there.
Outstanding video and very very cool possibilities. I am so stoked if you turn out to be correct. Also i really love the way you deliver information. I feel like I'm at an FDev design meeting (in the best way lol)
I hope we get to visit Thargoid home territory. I expect each major Thargoid colony will contain much more of the current Thargoid assets (barnacles, spires, Titans, bustling ground structures, and all the various ships, plus more things like actual stations and cities) right across each home system with considerable backup forces and a sense of absolute permanency.
1.5k hours but no ship interior when out in the dark made me quit. All I wanted was a generic room with a bunk and table so when landed I could go in, sit or sleep.
It's stupid because the fan boys keep defending Frontier saying it's a waste of resources. Well I guess we'll just have to give our money to Egosoft and Cloud Imperium then. I'll go back to Elite when they pull their head out of their @$$
I would love to see Base Building added! It would make sense to link Squadrons (or some variant of) to Base IDs, allowing Powerplay 2.0 to include a sort of Player Faction that isn't just a normal faction controlled by preexisting NPC BGS stuff. Expanding and building more Player Faction facilities would require a lot more materials so your idea of Material focused facilities would sit neatly in the new grind.
you should i did and i like it again i swear i hope ELITE will bypass StarCitizen with lots of things fist of all with thei huuuge galaxy and billions of solar systems they have
One of your best videos, I personally think you nailed everything! I too believe this is what Fdev are working on and it makes sense for the longevity of the game, tying the gameplay loops together, giving more meaning to the experience and expanding the scope of the game in new ways. This could be Fdev's masterpiece gameplay mechanic that we know they are capable of. o7 and bring it on!
This is the _exact_ form of base building I'd like to see in the game, and it would give both end game players something more to do that would have meaningful impact on the world around them, and help address some of the material collecting woes of engineering. Add in the ability for players to put those engineering materials that bases generate up for sale to other players, and I think it would be an excellent addition to the game. Plus, I can imagine a number of player initiatives that would spring up to keep far flung bases built up and active.
Wasn't there a hint at one point suggesting they were experimenting with cloud tech for Gas Giants? Imagine if the new feature is access to Gas Giants upper atmosphere and harvesting gas.
I think base building is the ultimate reason to explore the galaxy, you have to explore to find those sweet real estate spots, and we might finally start colonizing outside of the bubble.
Base Building doesn't appeals to me. After seeing what has been done in No Man's Sky, or all those games with base buildings that start to look the same, I'd rather see a way to build "power play outposts" with a clear geopolitical goal of conquest like in Eve Online (Build player bases, defend/attack them, conquer a system, benefits from it), than everyone having its own little home on moons and such, with the same services we could find in a station.
theres only one space game with good base building and its because it was designed with it in mind (Empyreon Galactic empire), nms just didnt need it. elite even more so. our base is our ship.
I would love to see some major push back from the thargoids, like they destroy a earth-like planet or invade Sol and end up destroying mars or something. Deorbit stations and make them be a huge crash sites to salvage, one can dream haha.
I'm wondering why the Thargoids don't attempt to move their base ships when they come under heavy attack. It could be fun to chase them from system to system and within systems using SCO FSD ships
I wish they would chuck all the thargoids in the bin. Splitting the combat systems between ax and non-ax has effectively shut me out of half the game. It sucks
@@Malthaelx1 Back when I played (almost exclusively solo) I used to like to do some powerplay supply shipping as roleplay. I also got a sweet bounty boost whenever Arissa was in the top 3 powers which was also nice. It was one of the few things that made me feel connected to the continuous and ever evolving nature of the galaxy when most of the time you're engaged in rudimentary instances that have no impact on the otherwise static and unresponsive nature of the game.
I think FDEV would first introduce player owned space stations and settlements using the game's existing assets before they would develop entirely new base building assets for the game.
it is hard for me to find the motivation to start the game. i played years, i remember alot of events and start playing a few months after release. i was on Beagle Point 5 times and did alot of exploring on the way, a great game and i spent also a good amount of money on cosmetics to support Frontier. But i really can´t find the motivation anymore to start the game.
I've been playing for a while now, yet I still consider myself a noob... I've come to appreciate your valuable presentations, they are chock full of knowledge and insights to help fill out the game... thanks!
Thanks Burr Pit. I've never left the game since release. There may have been lull periods where I didn't play as hard as other times but I've always kept ED alive in my games rotations. This year so far has just completely re-energised my passion for the game, so thank you to the dev team at FDev and your Burr Pit updates are key and to the point of whats happened and what's coming. Thank you for your efforts making the news, they are direct and to the point. No waffle. Cheers.
I'd love to see base building being a feature, if it would allow me to set this base in an uninhabited system outside the bubble. A few ideas of what I'd think would be nice are forming inside my head, but I don't want to create a wall of text here.
Imagine if we got a Thargoid group led by Seo and a Guardian group led by SalvAI AND humans finally allowed to build settlements for our PMF out in the void but have to watch out for Guardian and Thargoid controlled sectors in a kind of forever war.... You been reading my diary sir
Base building seems most likely, it has a great business model for the company in terms of selling cosmetics and doubles down on their management sim strategy. One thing missed in the video is future paid DLC based on new planet types, they have struggled to sell DLC previously with a perception of poor value for money with the hand crafted assets and gameplay loops that they managed to produce which is obviously very development intensive for billions of 1:1 scale planets in the game. I think base building will help here as the incentive to buy access to a new planet type to be able to build a base for unique resources or just to have a base there in a unique landscape will be incentive enough with minimal extra development required.
BGS PMFs should be able to defend themselves in the same way powerplay factions do for open only. If it is base building. Part of them should be able to be shut down or affected by other players in some way. Like other BGS bases. If I decide to build a base in mobius or psykits area. They surely wouldn't like me being there right? So people should be able to affect one another. Game balance around players needs to be addressed on every front. Not just powerplay. Player accountability needs to be a thing. It needs to mean something. And for some reason people are against being held accountable from the people they are affecting themselves. Awfully weird scenario people claiming to be victims when defended against. So if it is base building it needs to be balanced.
Open-only play is meaningless if it's consider the default. With Block functionality, truckers would simply work with a list of the opposing side CMDRs to block, effectively changing nothing. Current status quo is better. What FDEV could do is provide a bonus for open-play based on your percentage in open.
Agreed! One possible way to do this is to have a significant bonus to PP merits if you (1) played in open for the duration of holding the merits and (2) no players are on your blocklist. Making it a bonus instead of restricting it entirely, makes it a lot more forgiving, and thus stricter requirements can be added (in this case, the requirement that no blocking can be done). I've said in another comment that this is probably the best compromise; competitive players would have a more non-grindy meta, while casual players aren't left out, even though their influence might be lowered. One group would be unhappy about this though: competitive PvEers, but I'm not sure how big that group is.
Honestly if the new feature is ship interiors that would be better than base building. With oddysey existing, the only immersion breaking moment in the game is the transition of ship to srv or ship to on foot. You teleport from your chair to somewhere else and it reminds you that you're playing a game. Walking to your srv or to your ship exit platform would solidify the immersion.
Base building and/or more involved faction play. I need something to feel invested in. Not just monetarily but in the growth and success of it. A business, a station, a colony, or a faction that I'm actually intimately involved with, not just supporting as a merc.
Basebuilding sounds as it could fit really well. I would love it! Still there's one feature I would also love to see: Walking around in ships, board other ships and take them over (instead of destroy), combined with a lot of small minigames around Materials, Open World, Ship boarding, maybe some sort of hacking, ...
Wow. Great analysis, and wonderful ideas. I hope at the very least that they’re considering things like this. Such a holistic consideration of the game, the situation, and some *very cool* pitches on how to extend the endgame in a potentially satisfying and rewarding way. Hearing these theories and conjecture really makes me hopeful for the future of the game. It’s really surprising how much potential is left in a game this old, and it’s hard not to imagine a future where that potential is fulfilled. You make it difficult to temper my expectations!
I've played long enough to not expect specific things, rather i prefer to wait and enjoy what is provided by Fdev. They might not be good delivering what we wish for but they're good delivering their stuff. What i'm saying is, don't give me hope, Mr. Buur..
I would love to be able to build outposts or even station to expand the bubbles. It would be very cool to colonise parts of the still largely unexplored galaxy and perhaps even make a new colony bubble like Colonia with a bridge of stations leading to it.
Number 4th sounds really good, except nobody needs so many materials :/ I have all-full for more than a year now. But it sounds reasonable. Especially if other players can buy materials. Mats for the suits are in high demand still.
Base building would be a great addition to game play, somewhere you can create your own space within the game and possibly build micro economies around the base that is built.
Base building would be even better if it was joined with being able to design in a ship interior space where you can place production components, furniture and technology upgrades.
Looking forward to seeing what the updated version of power play will entail. As with all things FDev though, seeing is believing and I will wait to see before committing to any assumptions.
Before base building on planets I'd see building of outposts/stations in space more realistic, as the engine should have more features already implemented for doing so (like the carrier persistance system.... etc.). Building on planets would require bigger efforts for the planet engine. That may come with a complete new major version, I think. Just a feeling. 😎
yep, or a whole new pew pew mechanic. So hurray!! there is again more fighting opportunities. Years ago I really hoped we would see ship interiours and real atmospheric planets. Where you can explore or build your base so you wish. But after all these years we are still looking at dark rocky planets with comic style developped plants sparsely scattered around some places. And we enter our ship in wizzard teleporting way. Oh boy the potential I saw for this game back in the days 🙄
Burr I reckon you overlooked another game play loop attached to base building. On foot plan gathering. They’ve been in the game since odyssey released but up to now we’ve had no use for them.
I can see all of this happening but with 1 major difference: Capital ships. Looking at the whole picture from technical limiations, cost, whats already available to the players and so forth; it would make alot more sense and be alot more fun if players got to own/ attack/ defend/ loot/ launch/ command/ run around/ engage in combat on their own/ other CMDR's capital class battlecruisers.
I think the basebuilding would be good, I would like to see full atmospheric worlds or even get full VR when on the ground, I know you can get in with the camera, it wold be nice to see without that gray box.
In my opinion the silence about the future content must be connecting to future narrative, hence the secrecy. Sooo yeah the future update could be related to war between human superpowers. Maybe epic battles between capital ships: maybe against Thargoids. Maybe Thargoid planet killers. Could be on-foot thargoid encounters too! We forgot about it right? I think the least possible option is the fan favourite: base building. Solely bc I think the new feature will be connected to either upcoming PP v2 or the last phase of the Thargoid war. Or both!
Hmmm, you have a veeery interesting theory, it sounds really cool. Imagine if they would go as far as to have clan battles and clan (squadron) owned space ! Just like the bubble, have another area of space for "clan wars" where players can build and maintain these bases/outposts on suitable planets, maybe even buy, build or rent an orbital station/capital ships(for combat), and dispute territories and have wars with eachother, just like the powerplay factions do!
got back into ED this year. After taking a 1.5 year break from the downfall of it i'm so glad this gem of a game is pushing on and being supported to this level again
Yes. Base building and maybe some new level of atmospheric landable planets. Oceans/lakes/rivers with foliage. Maybe that’s too much but the base building would. Be a great thing to actually spend credits on. And hopefully get some new elements/buildings that could amend the current Odyssey bases. Creative outlets abound! And finally get real use of those “building schematics”.
I always thought a separate game building mode would be a good idea. Start of with building functionality and tben add things like being able to make stories and missions. Frontier would really be making use of their best skills. Imagine if they actually did it as a separate game. That could sale pretty well and give them another revenue as they release building packs.
I'd love to have a transition to a player based economy like in EVE. With player bases you could have the perfect way to reward manual labor but provide a passive fallback to keep the economy alive when you don't have the time to farm stuff manually.
I wonder what could be the mechanics of the base building. Realistically I do not expect anything int the NMS style but perhaps something like the FC: you deliver the resources (or just the credits) and the base will be built for you. You will then pay to open some modules. And you will pay upkeep of course :) But don't get me wrong, I'm looking for it.
People clearly need a new credit sink to dive into, so it makes perfect sense to give us player made bases to run alongside an updated Powerplay system. Assuming it is designed for it, those player settlements will likely contribute to the overall powerplay system, including formation of new civilised bubbles around the galaxy.
love your videos man. I would like that we can watch videos like this inside cockpit while traveling in space like we can listen galnet news. that would be great..like space cnn. and base building can be game changer. o7
I imagine basebuilding would tie in with Squadrons or faction play but then there's the closure of player faction applications that basically waters the idea down. I love the idea, and there would be plenty ways to monetize basebuilding for FDev via cosmetics for base modules/parts. I imagine people who build bases would be more inclined to play in open if their bases have some sort of relationship with powerplay
Here's my theory that ties all the things we know into account. Consider these facts: 1. FDEV is filling the gaps they see in the fleet of ships available with 4 new ships. 2. FDEV has released the Thargoid War using some new PowerPlay systems and enabling players to attack physical locations after doing some preliminary work. 3. FDEV Promises PowerPlay 2.0 in September. 4. FDEV says "something new we have never seen before" is coming. Given these points, I believe that FDEV's long term plan is to provide players with player or squadron owned outposts or stations and that those elements will be assaultable by other players using the new PowerPlay mechanics and the new ships they're adding. I believe that players will be able to exploit systems or areas of player-owned areas, or allied player groups, and ultimately, player owned installations might be attackable using those systems. We must assume that the picture that FDEV sees on what's missing must be aligned to some purpose. They aren't just randomly filling in ship roles with their 4 new ships, they're filling those roles with intention. They want to make sure the process is working, so they are testing it using the Thargoid War system we see now. This will morph into at least part of the PP2.0 in September and I believe players will ultimately use their new ships and new game systems to ultimately attack and control player owned structures, installations, or outposts. Just my thoughts.
The base building alone could cost 50++ billion, without even considering the monthly payment. Providing material, without giving too much credit, could be all it takes.
I'd love for something to be implemented that gives CMDRs the ability to remove the damage nerf on human weapons vs thargoids. This would be a good way to explain a major tide shift in the war, and finally being able to use my favorite weapons against thargoids would be really cool, and ships meant for pvp or pve could then be used in the war and remove the need to specialize for AX, and make it harder for gankers who prey on AX ships
I would love to see some form of enhanced crafting mechanic that you can perform while flying to some remote system. Meaning, let auto-pilot take the helm, get up and walk to a ship specified crafting location on your ship. Make passing the time less tedious. There are some great examples of what you could do on-board of a ship in Warframe. Of course that would be new implementations. I wouldn't complain about a 3rd person ship view during dog fights but I'll take what I can get.
Im still quite baffled upon the idea of fully pushing the Powerplay to open. Like I understand they want to make it more pvp focused. But it still just cuts out a lot of the playerbase from just being able to play certain parts of the game.
My hope for base building is the ability to build them wherever the terrain allows, outside a certain radius around already built stations. Different radius depending on whether it's a player base or npc base. We've got billions of full size planets at our disposal. Running out of real estate is not at all an issue. I also hope there'd be no limit to how many bases a player can create, or rather, a generous limit to how many one can create on a single planet, but no limit overall.
So that is why all the systems status seemed to reset a bit ago. Cuz i was looking for war systems. And nothing in the whole bubble. Everything was grey.
I can imagine base building in the game, especially if they integrate it into the economy somehow (maybe by converting resources or producing new goods that can be sold for profit, etc). Alternatively, I can also imagine planetary mining being introduced, with new resources and new game play elements comparable to deep core mining. As for the Thargoids, I think that would be a good way to incorporate the permit locked systems. There could be a dynamic war like we have now, with the possibility that the Thargoids can always send new Titans to keep the gameplay going.
If there was base building linked to material gathering I hope we can put down 3, or if they have buildings for each line of materials that we're not limited to one material type
Colonization of deep space would be the next step from Odyssey for Elite in my opinion, but I expect that to become a new expansion. With the temporary defeat of the Thargoids, and the conclusion of the war being "they will keep coming back" (thus we having a seasonal Titan to defeat every now and then), humanity decides that the best step for survival is to scatter and hope to either find a better way of dealing with the them, or simply try to survive in pockets small enough to not call their attention. Thus, Brewer Corporation starts partnering with nearly anyone who wants to create a deep space colony, provided they produce the funds (and/or resources) for it. We get to find systems with suitable locations, establish claims (either allowing other CMDRs to also colonize the system, only through request, or not at all, with different prices/costs dependent on the choice of claim), foot the bill and supply the colony with the use of carriers (and/or putting up nice trading opportunities for independent pilots), and eventually, the colony becomes self-sustainable, providing whatever it does (credits, materials, goods for trading, etc). That's why I think base building is too grandiose of a system to be implemented for free, and not on an expansion. Plus, it would have both a part on-foot for Odyssey owners (maybe with unique installations for commanders on foot) and for non-Odyssey owners (trading and any related activity to the colony, even piracy against it, or simply using colonies as mid-way points during exploration). It's still on my wishlist exploration on foot of megaships, maybe even megaship invasions (that could come with Powerplay and those new ones). Still, that would be an Odyssey-only activity, and given how FDev is still wary of giving Odyssey too much focus, I don't see that happening so soon or even being given so much importance. Whatever comes, I got enough proof from FDev that it will be a nice addition to the game anyway.
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I want to take a moment to say thank you for sticking with Elite even through the lows. You've kept a level-headed, balanced perspective throughout everything, and I really appreciate it. It's clear you do what you do because you love it. Elite's one of my favourite games and I'm looking forward to seeing what the future holds.
Here for it all buddy. ❤️o7
Thank you so much ❤ o7
@@TheBuurPit yes, thank you for remaining positive. and also you were the 1st to tell me about geforce now, so i could continue the adventure since im still stuck on xbox. ive been playing for years and still trying to find raxxla
Ah that's awesome! O7
@@crazygolm Seconded!
I still would love ship interiors, be it our own ships or not. Docking in an abandoned station or ship, walking through empty halls and haunted locations... I'd love it. There were so many story locations we could only ever see from the outside!
Interiors of stations or megaships would be really amazing, and really the only ship interiors I would expect.
Star citezen is over if you want to walk around your ship. Elite is fine as it is, have a great day.
@@DaveMcRee if elite get interiour, it will be 100x better then SC, because of the wast open galaxy to explore
So why some people are so obsessed with ship interiors??? You walk around 5-10 times and it becomes just the background. How does it add anything? You want ship interiors only to spend 3 seconds during exiting and entering the ship? That's dumb, I hope Frontier won't add ship interiors ever.
ship interiors are a dumb idea
I think base building and real player presence in the world is what the game really needs - Right now we're pretty much just observers and the weak driving force behind the occasional GALNET article and barely-functional station markets
100 % agreed
Fleet carriers are basically a prototype version of base building, albeit within a limited framework and customisation. It effectively gives players their own mobile space station, and so far it works well, especially those whose carriers never travel anywhere.
I see base building as a more permanent version of fleet carriers, with greater scope for expansion by creating a vast city filled with all sorts of buildings and amenities. A FPS version of SimCity if you will.
If base building came into effect I'd come back to play. Currently not playing and just watching content in the hopes that we get it
so true such a biiiig space but not much to do with it so yea building an outpost somewhere far away would be awesome.
It'd be pretty awesome to establish an outer edge space station for a home.
I hope base building is coupled with limited ship interiors, like you can use your ships as temporary construction bases to then build your actual base with
I'd even take just walkable cockpits or something similar. something to do in the long nothingness of supercruises
@@BickSnarf The new SCO drives say hi
@@Sighman They're a great addition for speeding things up a bit. I more mean the journey to planets that are say 100k+ LS away
I think we just need to give up on interiors happening. I dont think it will and if it does it would be extremely restricted in the same way carriers are. Ship can't be moving (either landed or engines turned off) and would teleport you to your seat when things actually happen.
@@GigachudBDEthey could do a workshop where the stairs are on medium and large and move the blue circle to there so you can only use it when your landed and have somewhere to craft the bits for your base. It wouldn’t be ship interiors but would work nicely as a starting point for base building so you don’t have to keep popping in and out of your ship for stuff you can just go up the stairs to the workshop. Wishful thinking I know but would be nice
Being able to walk around my ships would be nice, and yes I believe it's possible. It will just take time. Great video
Just consider player squadrons able to explore distant locations, then build and support their own bases on them, pushing farther outside the bubble (and at the same time expanding their own political allegiances), along with a threat of rivals (as well as the occasional Thargoid interruption) that can all be resolved in-game...massive! This could be an EVE competitor, with its coordinating all levels of gameplay, as well as tantalizingly close to the all-encompassing gameplay promised by Star Citizen. - And all of it in an entire Milky Way galaxy the others don't (and can't) emulate. This would solidify the epic nature of Elite for years to come.
Would love to see base building. Maybe FDev plans to incorporate it with the Powerplay 2.0 work, where if a player has built up enough reputation/influence with a particular faction, then that faction could somehow 'sponsor' the construction of a new base. It would be very cool to see bases being established in the far-flung regions of the galaxy, not to mention the establishment of multiple bases to form colonies in specific regions (think Azura Initiative for example).
def hoping for abandoned settlements and other things being explorable, new missions, stories content around that, like the generation ships, other things along those lines.
Oh man, that would be awesome if Player Owned Stations would become a thing. I'd definitely set up a station out in the middle of nowhere for explorers to come to so that they could sell their data, rest, repair, and refuel.
This would be awesome
I hope base building *isn't* the unannounced feature, and that Elite goes back to it's *roots* by adding more gameplay to the flight element of the game. I'd still much rather see atmospheric worlds with weather and biomes, 'proper' strike missions against ground targets, procedural cities, NPC crews and ship interiors. But... it's going to be base building isn't it?
I'd personally rather have fully/thick atmo worlds w/flora and fauna than bases, however, base building would bring me back.
Ship interiors is the other big thing, but while I'd love that, it wouldn't bring me back. Base building makes too much sense with the potential hooks into Powerplay, economy, etc
yes interstellar like stuff is something i care a lot abt
waves fog volcanic geiser thunders clouds earthquaking grounds swamp like dust devilsVery scary stuff should be made
I agree. Not interested in building anything, I just want to fly around, visit beautiful worlds with weather and biomes. The planets in ED currently look so dull compared to SC...
why not both :) that would be great
Wasps at the UN? "notes that plan down for future use."
My fbi agent watching me google
“Most destructive type of termites”
“Where to buy Fomosan Termites.”
“Fomosan Termite queen enclosure.”
“What days is the UN open”
“UN building floorplan”
Did you hear about the wasp nest visiting the UN? I dont know the details yet but theres been a lot of buzz.
Standard features: walk around ships and interact; VR in Odyssey; and enhanced; less grind; MMO servers
I hope for a possibility to land on more types of planets, but base building or ships interiors (for people who want to treat their ship as a mobile base) would make me happy as well. Well, we will see. I'm just glad that SOMETHING is finally happening,
yes but they must allow ship helm to be sharable .. u can have shared ships or 1 ship.. or at least do this on fleetcarrier
i dont play for some days my friend carries it on we share a ship... amazing
lol i hope its 3 things in 1 basebuuidling, landing on other atmo planets that are now still off limits, and ship interiors.
All I really want is to be able to find new alien friends, maybe picking up and industrial-era civ's radio signals, or finding an inhabited earth-like world on the edge of an expanding civilization. It might be fun IDK, probs not happening though :(
i think its useful and practical ship interior gameplay
Am I the only one who also says "I'm cmdr buuuuuur" at the beginning of the video? 😆
Great video though, hope base building does come to the game as I think it would also give a neat level of "being out in the black" and you're the soul person surviving out in space and not just jumping around in your ship. Almost like a mission going to Mars in today's terms. Kind of gives a role playing feeling to it.
Also as others have said, it would be cool if they integrated it so you can meet and see more players out there.
Buuuuuuuur
haha cmdr go buurrrrrrrr
Outstanding video and very very cool possibilities. I am so stoked if you turn out to be correct. Also i really love the way you deliver information. I feel like I'm at an FDev design meeting (in the best way lol)
I hope we get to visit Thargoid home territory. I expect each major Thargoid colony will contain much more of the current Thargoid assets (barnacles, spires, Titans, bustling ground structures, and all the various ships, plus more things like actual stations and cities) right across each home system with considerable backup forces and a sense of absolute permanency.
I think that will 2025 update.
you realize they apparently live in witch space right?
1.5k hours but no ship interior when out in the dark made me quit. All I wanted was a generic room with a bunk and table so when landed I could go in, sit or sleep.
It's stupid because the fan boys keep defending Frontier saying it's a waste of resources. Well I guess we'll just have to give our money to Egosoft and Cloud Imperium then. I'll go back to Elite when they pull their head out of their @$$
U could stand up, look around and see generic room, than u can go sleep, crazy level of immersion
Fully agree. Ship interiors are so immersive in SC.
I would love to see Base Building added! It would make sense to link Squadrons (or some variant of) to Base IDs, allowing Powerplay 2.0 to include a sort of Player Faction that isn't just a normal faction controlled by preexisting NPC BGS stuff. Expanding and building more Player Faction facilities would require a lot more materials so your idea of Material focused facilities would sit neatly in the new grind.
I'm going to get back into this...
you should i did and i like it again i swear i hope ELITE will bypass StarCitizen with lots of things fist of all with thei huuuge galaxy and billions of solar systems they have
@@nemesisone8927 is there a dlc where you walk around ?
Love that you record and publish your videos in 21:9 - just got a new display and love it when videos utilize it :)
Would be nice if they also made and implemented, at least, basic ship interiors for more immersion.!..
I hope they don't do anything "pvp only" game play wise. They should never limit people like that. I know lots of others feel different.
One of your best videos, I personally think you nailed everything! I too believe this is what Fdev are working on and it makes sense for the longevity of the game, tying the gameplay loops together, giving more meaning to the experience and expanding the scope of the game in new ways. This could be Fdev's masterpiece gameplay mechanic that we know they are capable of. o7 and bring it on!
This is the _exact_ form of base building I'd like to see in the game, and it would give both end game players something more to do that would have meaningful impact on the world around them, and help address some of the material collecting woes of engineering. Add in the ability for players to put those engineering materials that bases generate up for sale to other players, and I think it would be an excellent addition to the game. Plus, I can imagine a number of player initiatives that would spring up to keep far flung bases built up and active.
Wasn't there a hint at one point suggesting they were experimenting with cloud tech for Gas Giants? Imagine if the new feature is access to Gas Giants upper atmosphere and harvesting gas.
I'd reinstall if they added on-foot vr helmet view
God I hope it's base building. It would make the galaxy feel so much more personally meaningful. I'd love to find a planet to call home
I don't want base building. I want more reasons to explore gallaxy.
I think base building is the ultimate reason to explore the galaxy, you have to explore to find those sweet real estate spots, and we might finally start colonizing outside of the bubble.
I'm hoping beyond hope that the brand new feature is the ability to land on earthlike worlds, including Earth. Procedurally generated towns/cities.
Ship interiors, ship interiors, ship interiors. There, I've said it three times. It should appear soon 😅
Base Building doesn't appeals to me. After seeing what has been done in No Man's Sky, or all those games with base buildings that start to look the same, I'd rather see a way to build "power play outposts" with a clear geopolitical goal of conquest like in Eve Online (Build player bases, defend/attack them, conquer a system, benefits from it), than everyone having its own little home on moons and such, with the same services we could find in a station.
theres only one space game with good base building and its because it was designed with it in mind (Empyreon Galactic empire), nms just didnt need it. elite even more so. our base is our ship.
Let us land on earth-like worlds and water world. I want to go cave exploring while being chase by a giant alien spider.
DREAM!
I would love to see some major push back from the thargoids, like they destroy a earth-like planet or invade Sol and end up destroying mars or something. Deorbit stations and make them be a huge crash sites to salvage, one can dream haha.
I'm wondering why the Thargoids don't attempt to move their base ships when they come under heavy attack. It could be fun to chase them from system to system and within systems using SCO FSD ships
Brilliant, an excellent well informed and presented overview of what the near future may hold for ED. Thank you.
OHHHHhhh... Now you've gone and kicked the hornets nest. Brining up the ghost of the future Goid Queen. Rings of Kerrigan!
I wish they would chuck all the thargoids in the bin. Splitting the combat systems between ax and non-ax has effectively shut me out of half the game. It sucks
I hate to be negative but I'm usually correct when it comes to ED... but making powerplay open only would kill it.
Base building could be cool though.
As opposed to what the current iteration of PowerPlay is? Relegated to nothing more than module shopping.
@@Malthaelx1 Back when I played (almost exclusively solo) I used to like to do some powerplay supply shipping as roleplay. I also got a sweet bounty boost whenever Arissa was in the top 3 powers which was also nice. It was one of the few things that made me feel connected to the continuous and ever evolving nature of the galaxy when most of the time you're engaged in rudimentary instances that have no impact on the otherwise static and unresponsive nature of the game.
open play must be the only intergacting with powers factions etc
I think FDEV would first introduce player owned space stations and settlements using the game's existing assets before they would develop entirely new base building assets for the game.
it is hard for me to find the motivation to start the game.
i played years, i remember alot of events and start playing a few months after release.
i was on Beagle Point 5 times and did alot of exploring on the way, a great game and i spent also a good amount of money on cosmetics to support Frontier.
But i really can´t find the motivation anymore to start the game.
get in a squadron and join back every once in a while or in team is a blast
I've been playing for a while now, yet I still consider myself a noob... I've come to appreciate your valuable presentations, they are chock full of knowledge and insights to help fill out the game... thanks!
Thank you :)
Thanks Burr Pit. I've never left the game since release. There may have been lull periods where I didn't play as hard as other times but I've always kept ED alive in my games rotations.
This year so far has just completely re-energised my passion for the game, so thank you to the dev team at FDev and your Burr Pit updates are key and to the point of whats happened and what's coming.
Thank you for your efforts making the news, they are direct and to the point. No waffle. Cheers.
Crikey Burr, you're pushing the envelope with this one. Love your work. Good luck with the 4 July
I'd love to see base building being a feature, if it would allow me to set this base in an uninhabited system outside the bubble.
A few ideas of what I'd think would be nice are forming inside my head, but I don't want to create a wall of text here.
Imagine if we got a Thargoid group led by Seo and a Guardian group led by SalvAI AND humans finally allowed to build settlements for our PMF out in the void but have to watch out for Guardian and Thargoid controlled sectors in a kind of forever war....
You been reading my diary sir
Base building seems most likely, it has a great business model for the company in terms of selling cosmetics and doubles down on their management sim strategy. One thing missed in the video is future paid DLC based on new planet types, they have struggled to sell DLC previously with a perception of poor value for money with the hand crafted assets and gameplay loops that they managed to produce which is obviously very development intensive for billions of 1:1 scale planets in the game. I think base building will help here as the incentive to buy access to a new planet type to be able to build a base for unique resources or just to have a base there in a unique landscape will be incentive enough with minimal extra development required.
BGS PMFs should be able to defend themselves in the same way powerplay factions do for open only.
If it is base building. Part of them should be able to be shut down or affected by other players in some way. Like other BGS bases.
If I decide to build a base in mobius or psykits area. They surely wouldn't like me being there right?
So people should be able to affect one another.
Game balance around players needs to be addressed on every front. Not just powerplay.
Player accountability needs to be a thing. It needs to mean something. And for some reason people are against being held accountable from the people they are affecting themselves.
Awfully weird scenario people claiming to be victims when defended against.
So if it is base building it needs to be balanced.
Open-only play is meaningless if it's consider the default. With Block functionality, truckers would simply work with a list of the opposing side CMDRs to block, effectively changing nothing. Current status quo is better. What FDEV could do is provide a bonus for open-play based on your percentage in open.
Agreed! One possible way to do this is to have a significant bonus to PP merits if you (1) played in open for the duration of holding the merits and (2) no players are on your blocklist. Making it a bonus instead of restricting it entirely, makes it a lot more forgiving, and thus stricter requirements can be added (in this case, the requirement that no blocking can be done).
I've said in another comment that this is probably the best compromise; competitive players would have a more non-grindy meta, while casual players aren't left out, even though their influence might be lowered. One group would be unhappy about this though: competitive PvEers, but I'm not sure how big that group is.
Honestly if the new feature is ship interiors that would be better than base building. With oddysey existing, the only immersion breaking moment in the game is the transition of ship to srv or ship to on foot. You teleport from your chair to somewhere else and it reminds you that you're playing a game. Walking to your srv or to your ship exit platform would solidify the immersion.
As long as they dont make it pay to win or kill it im OK
Base building and/or more involved faction play. I need something to feel invested in. Not just monetarily but in the growth and success of it. A business, a station, a colony, or a faction that I'm actually intimately involved with, not just supporting as a merc.
There's literally 500 billion star systems In the game. Every player can have a base and space would still feel empty lol
Nice forecast! Now I want thargoid on foot and the return of the guardians! Dream until your dream comes true hehehehe.
I love those shots of your T10 turret boat. What a beautiful ship!
My thought on base building is, would there be a limit to how many bases could a player have and placement, could we see planets covered in bases.
I think space is too big -- and, at present, the player counts too low -- for this to be a concern.
I do not enjoy AX content at all. I'm ready for them to bring something else into focus.
Basebuilding sounds as it could fit really well. I would love it!
Still there's one feature I would also love to see: Walking around in ships, board other ships and take them over (instead of destroy), combined with a lot of small minigames around Materials, Open World, Ship boarding, maybe some sort of hacking, ...
Wow. Great analysis, and wonderful ideas. I hope at the very least that they’re considering things like this. Such a holistic consideration of the game, the situation, and some *very cool* pitches on how to extend the endgame in a potentially satisfying and rewarding way.
Hearing these theories and conjecture really makes me hopeful for the future of the game. It’s really surprising how much potential is left in a game this old, and it’s hard not to imagine a future where that potential is fulfilled. You make it difficult to temper my expectations!
I've played long enough to not expect specific things, rather i prefer to wait and enjoy what is provided by Fdev. They might not be good delivering what we wish for but they're good delivering their stuff.
What i'm saying is, don't give me hope, Mr. Buur..
I would love to be able to build outposts or even station to expand the bubbles. It would be very cool to colonise parts of the still largely unexplored galaxy and perhaps even make a new colony bubble like Colonia with a bridge of stations leading to it.
Number 4th sounds really good, except nobody needs so many materials :/ I have all-full for more than a year now. But it sounds reasonable. Especially if other players can buy materials. Mats for the suits are in high demand still.
Base building would be a great addition to game play, somewhere you can create your own space within the game and possibly build micro economies around the base that is built.
Base building would be even better if it was joined with being able to design in a ship interior space where you can place production components, furniture and technology upgrades.
Looking forward to seeing what the updated version of power play will entail. As with all things FDev though, seeing is believing and I will wait to see before committing to any assumptions.
Before base building on planets I'd see building of outposts/stations in space more realistic, as the engine should have more features already implemented for doing so (like the carrier persistance system.... etc.). Building on planets would require bigger efforts for the planet engine. That may come with a complete new major version, I think. Just a feeling. 😎
Perhaps you can build stations and settlements?
Ill be honest, i would really love to see a line of actions that players could take to develop a relationship with the thargoids.
An interesting analysis. Unfortunately the 'brand new feature' will probably be just an 'opportunity' to buy things with real cash.
yep, or a whole new pew pew mechanic. So hurray!! there is again more fighting opportunities.
Years ago I really hoped we would see ship interiours and real atmospheric planets. Where you can explore or build your base so you wish. But after all these years we are still looking at dark rocky planets with comic style developped plants sparsely scattered around some places. And we enter our ship in wizzard teleporting way.
Oh boy the potential I saw for this game back in the days 🙄
Burr I reckon you overlooked another game play loop attached to base building. On foot plan gathering. They’ve been in the game since odyssey released but up to now we’ve had no use for them.
I haven't been playing for 3 years, I'd definitely come back if they implemented base building in the game.
I can see all of this happening but with 1 major difference: Capital ships. Looking at the whole picture from technical limiations, cost, whats already available to the players and so forth; it would make alot more sense and be alot more fun if players got to own/ attack/ defend/ loot/ launch/ command/ run around/ engage in combat on their own/ other CMDR's capital class battlecruisers.
I would love to see base building! It only makes sense that if we're going to explore the galaxy that we can colonize it as well.
I think the basebuilding would be good, I would like to see full atmospheric worlds or even get full VR when on the ground, I know you can get in with the camera, it wold be nice to see without that gray box.
In my opinion the silence about the future content must be connecting to future narrative, hence the secrecy. Sooo yeah the future update could be related to war between human superpowers. Maybe epic battles between capital ships: maybe against Thargoids. Maybe Thargoid planet killers. Could be on-foot thargoid encounters too! We forgot about it right? I think the least possible option is the fan favourite: base building. Solely bc I think the new feature will be connected to either upcoming PP v2 or the last phase of the Thargoid war. Or both!
Well, their usual method is silence, so I certainly never thought we'd know what the feature is until they're ready to show something.
Salute to FDev for still putting out new updates and new content for this 10 year old game.
Nice video. I bet on base building as well, all along with automation of mining and other features.
Hmmm, you have a veeery interesting theory, it sounds really cool.
Imagine if they would go as far as to have clan battles and clan (squadron) owned space !
Just like the bubble, have another area of space for "clan wars" where players can build and maintain these bases/outposts on suitable planets, maybe even buy, build or rent an orbital station/capital ships(for combat), and dispute territories and have wars with eachother, just like the powerplay factions do!
got back into ED this year. After taking a 1.5 year break from the downfall of it i'm so glad this gem of a game is pushing on and being supported to this level again
*FDev hearing the So-Jin theorising:* "Write that down! _Write that down!"_
Yes. Base building and maybe some new level of atmospheric landable planets. Oceans/lakes/rivers with foliage. Maybe that’s too much but the base building would. Be a great thing to actually spend credits on. And hopefully get some new elements/buildings that could amend the current Odyssey bases. Creative outlets abound! And finally get real use of those “building schematics”.
I always thought a separate game building mode would be a good idea. Start of with building functionality and tben add things like being able to make stories and missions.
Frontier would really be making use of their best skills. Imagine if they actually did it as a separate game. That could sale pretty well and give them another revenue as they release building packs.
I'd love to have a transition to a player based economy like in EVE. With player bases you could have the perfect way to reward manual labor but provide a passive fallback to keep the economy alive when you don't have the time to farm stuff manually.
Wow…. I love your ideas for base building. I really hope you are right.
Let's see I guess! 😉
I really hope base building is in. I hope we get to configure the bases a bit as well to make them unique even if they're only modular.
I wonder what could be the mechanics of the base building. Realistically I do not expect anything int the NMS style but perhaps something like the FC: you deliver the resources (or just the credits) and the base will be built for you. You will then pay to open some modules. And you will pay upkeep of course :) But don't get me wrong, I'm looking for it.
People clearly need a new credit sink to dive into, so it makes perfect sense to give us player made bases to run alongside an updated Powerplay system. Assuming it is designed for it, those player settlements will likely contribute to the overall powerplay system, including formation of new civilised bubbles around the galaxy.
love your videos man. I would like that we can watch videos like this inside cockpit while traveling in space like we can listen galnet news. that would be great..like space cnn. and base building can be game changer. o7
Looking back.. speculation about the brand new feature...
Its late Sept 24. And we still don't have a clue lol
I imagine basebuilding would tie in with Squadrons or faction play but then there's the closure of player faction applications that basically waters the idea down.
I love the idea, and there would be plenty ways to monetize basebuilding for FDev via cosmetics for base modules/parts.
I imagine people who build bases would be more inclined to play in open if their bases have some sort of relationship with powerplay
Here's my theory that ties all the things we know into account. Consider these facts:
1. FDEV is filling the gaps they see in the fleet of ships available with 4 new ships.
2. FDEV has released the Thargoid War using some new PowerPlay systems and enabling players to attack physical locations after doing some preliminary work.
3. FDEV Promises PowerPlay 2.0 in September.
4. FDEV says "something new we have never seen before" is coming.
Given these points, I believe that FDEV's long term plan is to provide players with player or squadron owned outposts or stations and that those elements will be assaultable by other players using the new PowerPlay mechanics and the new ships they're adding. I believe that players will be able to exploit systems or areas of player-owned areas, or allied player groups, and ultimately, player owned installations might be attackable using those systems.
We must assume that the picture that FDEV sees on what's missing must be aligned to some purpose. They aren't just randomly filling in ship roles with their 4 new ships, they're filling those roles with intention. They want to make sure the process is working, so they are testing it using the Thargoid War system we see now. This will morph into at least part of the PP2.0 in September and I believe players will ultimately use their new ships and new game systems to ultimately attack and control player owned structures, installations, or outposts.
Just my thoughts.
The base building alone could cost 50++ billion, without even considering the monthly payment. Providing material, without giving too much credit, could be all it takes.
I'd love for something to be implemented that gives CMDRs the ability to remove the damage nerf on human weapons vs thargoids. This would be a good way to explain a major tide shift in the war, and finally being able to use my favorite weapons against thargoids would be really cool, and ships meant for pvp or pve could then be used in the war and remove the need to specialize for AX, and make it harder for gankers who prey on AX ships
I would love to see some form of enhanced crafting mechanic that you can perform while flying to some remote system. Meaning, let auto-pilot take the helm, get up and walk to a ship specified crafting location on your ship. Make passing the time less tedious. There are some great examples of what you could do on-board of a ship in Warframe. Of course that would be new implementations. I wouldn't complain about a 3rd person ship view during dog fights but I'll take what I can get.
Im still quite baffled upon the idea of fully pushing the Powerplay to open. Like I understand they want to make it more pvp focused. But it still just cuts out a lot of the playerbase from just being able to play certain parts of the game.
My hope for base building is the ability to build them wherever the terrain allows, outside a certain radius around already built stations. Different radius depending on whether it's a player base or npc base. We've got billions of full size planets at our disposal. Running out of real estate is not at all an issue.
I also hope there'd be no limit to how many bases a player can create, or rather, a generous limit to how many one can create on a single planet, but no limit overall.
So that is why all the systems status seemed to reset a bit ago. Cuz i was looking for war systems. And nothing in the whole bubble. Everything was grey.
I can imagine base building in the game, especially if they integrate it into the economy somehow (maybe by converting resources or producing new goods that can be sold for profit, etc).
Alternatively, I can also imagine planetary mining being introduced, with new resources and new game play elements comparable to deep core mining.
As for the Thargoids, I think that would be a good way to incorporate the permit locked systems. There could be a dynamic war like we have now, with the possibility that the Thargoids can always send new Titans to keep the gameplay going.
If there was base building linked to material gathering I hope we can put down 3, or if they have buildings for each line of materials that we're not limited to one material type
Colonization of deep space would be the next step from Odyssey for Elite in my opinion, but I expect that to become a new expansion. With the temporary defeat of the Thargoids, and the conclusion of the war being "they will keep coming back" (thus we having a seasonal Titan to defeat every now and then), humanity decides that the best step for survival is to scatter and hope to either find a better way of dealing with the them, or simply try to survive in pockets small enough to not call their attention. Thus, Brewer Corporation starts partnering with nearly anyone who wants to create a deep space colony, provided they produce the funds (and/or resources) for it. We get to find systems with suitable locations, establish claims (either allowing other CMDRs to also colonize the system, only through request, or not at all, with different prices/costs dependent on the choice of claim), foot the bill and supply the colony with the use of carriers (and/or putting up nice trading opportunities for independent pilots), and eventually, the colony becomes self-sustainable, providing whatever it does (credits, materials, goods for trading, etc). That's why I think base building is too grandiose of a system to be implemented for free, and not on an expansion. Plus, it would have both a part on-foot for Odyssey owners (maybe with unique installations for commanders on foot) and for non-Odyssey owners (trading and any related activity to the colony, even piracy against it, or simply using colonies as mid-way points during exploration).
It's still on my wishlist exploration on foot of megaships, maybe even megaship invasions (that could come with Powerplay and those new ones). Still, that would be an Odyssey-only activity, and given how FDev is still wary of giving Odyssey too much focus, I don't see that happening so soon or even being given so much importance.
Whatever comes, I got enough proof from FDev that it will be a nice addition to the game anyway.