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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2022
- I'm trying to decide if I want to keep my Marshall JVM 410 or sell it. The Marshall JVM 410H is a decent amp. I just don't know if it works for me.
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Hey man, check the bias rating on the amp, these JVMs come very cold from factory which makes them sound scooped and harsh. Bring the bias up to 70mv per pair... the amp opens up and comes alive, the change is dramatic, specially on the mids. Give that a shot before you let it go. I love mine!
This is interesting. Do you have any documents or a link to a page discussing this?
The amp sounds great once you learn how to use it, since you basically skipped over tons of actual channel settings that all sound great. Source: my JVM 410H, and pretty much everybody who has ever played one.
Absolutely right!
Always loved the sound of the JVM series. Alexi from Children of Bodom put it on my radar years ago. Something about the Marshall voicing has always made it one of my favorite amps. You may want to check out a JCM 800 or even a Silver Jubilee...that worked for Slayer.
I don't think they make Marshall's for the knob twisters... just plug in and play.
I'm not a Marshall guy but i have that Jvm410 and Jcm800 stealth. For the Jvm OD1 & OD2 i would not put the gain more than 12 o'clock & it's a great amp specially by boosting by SD1:)
I used to jam with a guy who loved his JVM410 , and I have my JP2C , we would plug into each others amps, and neither of could jell with the others amp, but we didn't sound completely different from each other when we were playing thru our own amps. So too each his own.
I tend to use less gain then you do. I was going to sell mine but then I swapped V1 with a 12AU7 to bring it down a little more and make thing more usable for me. To be honest after that change I wanted to keep the amp.
Really glad you did this review. I wanted a Marshall but I had a DSL100HR for about a day because it has an issue that once you go past about 1oclock on the gain with a boost it starts getting not only muddy, but it makes this weird thuddy sound that cuts out the first part of the notes. It's like ultra compression just biting off the attack of the note and it absolutely ruins the sound. Sounds like this has similar problems and may just be a Marshall thing in general. More of a mid gain amp only kinda brand. Darn shame because I love their sound but I need just a little more distortion.
@Tone WARS On the Green Clean channel volume is controlled by the master, the channel volume does nothing because it's all powered by the power tubes on it and not the channel volume . Not sure if you realize later I literally paused when I saw you crank the channel(I haven't noticed any "easter eggs" by diming it, but thats the only channel that behaves like this on it. Resuming.:)!
as im watching im blown away at the clean tones wow, Most Marshalls ive listen to kind of suck when it comes to the cleans. Right there alone that amp has mojo. Im wondering what a EQ might do.I do hear the mushiness. But the Red Channel IMO is killer 90s metal
I have a silver jubilee and a jvm
Both amps are great. Hit the front end of with an sd1 or klon and it’s immense
I run a klon thru my 410 head and it is exactly as you say…. Immense. I can’t get any other amp or effect combo to sound like it.
I think it‘s great that everyone‘s taste is a little bit different! For me personally the JVM is „my“ sound. What did the trick for me was to keep depth and presence quite low (9 o‘clock) on OD2 Orange to let the mids stand out more. Otherwise it can sound a little harsh and scooped. Most people seem to actually prefer OD1 while I don‘t like that channel at all (too dark and compressed). As I said before - tastes are different, and that‘s a good thing!
Same for me. In fact I own or have owned several of the same amps in the background and they collect dust or are gone. JVM has been my tone since it was released. To each their own.
I have the JVM410H amp also and I love it. It takes time to master all the possible sounds you can get out of this amp but when you do, it covers a lot of territory. It takes pedals really good in front of the amp and loop also. I run mine through 1960A and 1960B cabinets most of the time. Not going to sell mine.
Thanks for keepin truthful. In a straight rock setting it should rule.
Thanks for commenting. You know I'm always gonna shoot straight with you guys. And I agree with what you said, straight rock and roll, this amp is awesome.
Right off from the cuff.. Have you been reading my mind! Yes yes it does metal. Got mine midsummer this year, has a lot of great metal tones in here. Boosts help on many of the different voicings of this beast! But I still am getting used to it myself and had this question yesterday does it do metal!?!? In my case does it do compressed spongy metal because it can defitenly cut your head off! Ok time to find out your findings Jarrod! :)
Orange mode pure old school metal. But all Chanles are great when dialed in
To put some edge on it dial back the treble a bit and add more presence. . Most of the 410 modes or options I wouldn't use that's why I got the 205 . I swear 50 watt Marshall's have more snarl. Also the best pedal I ever boosted a marshall with is the ol boss sd1 really works well with a marshall but for what your lookin for I think a evh el34 would work better or believe it or not the friedman Runt 50 is amazing and has great clarity with a boost your definitely doing metal .
this amp is fantastic
Yes...this Marshall JVM sound is subjective. I had the Mesa Boogie (Dual Rectifier and Mark IV and V), Peavey, and Randall. And none of them does it for me. My last Mesa Boogie Mark V was good for modern metal (i.e., Dream Theater) and Blues and Clean...but it couldn't really captured my type music, i.e., Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Journey, G&R, AC/DC, Whitesnake, Skid Row, Boston, Led Zeppelin, and all classic rock, etc. If course, I also returned my Mark V back to Sweetwater. Lol. Now, I really miss my Marshall sound and going to buy it pretty soon. cheers.
Only marshall does marshall - i totally agree with your statement. Have multiple pther amps but 80’s rock requires a marshall
Sell it and get the Joe Satriani model, if you can find it. And then sell that to me, cause I’ve been looking for one forever. Apparently it’s a lot better than the stock JVM.
I love my JVM, I’ll never part with it. It’s so versatile.
Looks like most ofl the eq's are set straight up at noon? He adjusted the gain but nothing else? On OD2 the bass and mids are on 10. C'mon man. This amp is a beast, but you gotta dial it in.
first two channels are a bit shitty but the third sounded great. I used to not like marshalls, but now I dig them not for the chugs like a peavey or mesa but for the crunch on thrashy fast double palm mutes, it hits you more in the face/chest vs the gut. It's a pretty cool amp actually
I upgraded from the JVM210H that I had for almost a decade to the JVM410H earlier this year after getting a couple more 3 channel amplifiers. There are a few guitars that sound just meh though it and most of the others sound really good without dialing anything differently. I only really like the Mezzabarba Trinity better than my JVM. I need to spend some more time with the Friedman BE-100 deluxe to see if it works for me better than the Marshall. I liked the Mesa Boogie Triple Crown TC-100 better than the 2 channel JVM but not the 4. How much do you like the Engl? Hopefully Skeeter didn’t ruin all of the bubble wrap.😂
Yeah I hope he didn't ruin all the bubble wrap either lol. I love the Engl savage. It's an amazing amplifier. Channel 4 is just so brutal and smooth at the same time
For me the JVM I had was better with greenback type speakers. The recto cab I have was not a good match for this head. It’s an fine amp but not special to me.
I've had this amp and I agree it's not the best amp ever, but there was things I liked about it. Wouldn't mind having it back. Perfect for dad rock.
I was gonna get the Revv Generator but it's so expensive that I may go the JVM 410, route. Do you think the Marshall can hold a candle to the Revv?
I don't think the Marshall holds up to the Revv at all.
The Revv has way more features and sounds a ton better.
The green channel will give you a better version of the Marshall tone all day long.
And purple and red channels are amazing.
@@TONEWARSgearshow I'm gonna save for the Revv. Still want to try a Bogner Helios but that Revv is a beast.
@@TONEWARSgearshow One thing I need to know. The Green does Marshall. Is it convincing and can you play leads on the Green? I will need a good crunch channel for stuff like Rush, Deep Purple, etc.
Considering all the other amps you own, you really do not need the JVM. What good is having 4 channels, if you only need clean and heavy. The JVM is also not the best built amp out there. ( Some cheap parts inside that box. ) As I have said many times before, the secret to any Marshall amp is to hit the front of it with a Boss SD-1. Roll the gain back on the amp, and use the SD-1 to drive it. Gain should probably be around two O`clock on the amp. ( Orange channel of OD2. ) This amp will get you Judas Priest "Painkiller" tones. But so will your EVH 100w el34 amp. You might as well sell the JVM.
Thanks for commenting. Yeah, it just doesn't compare to everything that I have on the shelves. I might as well save space for something more suitable to my taste. That said, it is a great amplifier. It just doesn't work for me.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Saki from Nemophila plays one. Yuki from D_Drive plays one. ☺
@Daniel R Nice!
My brother had one but got rid of it due to it was a very noisy amp and replaced it with the Joe Satriani version. It has built in noise gates for each channel and they are amazing.
I have the H model and don't have much issues with noise at all. But I also have high end pickups that are shielded and high end wires and have the amp plugged into it's own circuit. Maybe that helps. I hear a lot of complaints on the noise, but just don't have those issues unless I go to channel 4 and have the gain up really high.
Alexi Laiho's tone isn't for everyone. He used the JVM. I happen to like it. Not to much distortion clean sounding pushed mids
I'm looking to sell my splawn quick rod. Things super tight, too tight for my taste and lacks sag. It's a subjective tone taste issue soley. Things in mint condition. I'll trade and throw in cash. I know you like the nitro more, but just throwing it out there if interested.
traded mine for a triple MW. marshall never been my sound. but i love megadeth and children of bodom
Just got the joe satriani version. Much improved
It's a great sounding amp! Classic Marshall tone! That said, it's not for Super Hi-Gain, and you proved that here. It doesn't hold up to the other amps in the room, and that's why it has to go. That makes room for an amp, that will hold it's own in the room And the JVM will make someone else really happy!
It is a great classic sound. Not as responsive as I like but it does sound good. I want a wizard
@@TONEWARSgearshow Can't wait to hear you play a Wizard!!!!!🤘
@@fluxxliveband same here!!
pretty sure the guy in Dying Fetus would disagree as he used one at some point and sounded great (same with the dsl).
Kinda miss mine, it was dreadfully noisy though lol
V30's are the wrong speakers for this amp. I have a ton of amps and this amp sat on the shelf for a long time. Then I swapped the to V30s I have in my 1960a with CreamBacks which are now in a X pattern with G-12 75s and bam! With the right pedals and the right speakers this amp is the best one I own and gets me thru all the songs in my set which require a ton of different sounds.
The mixes just sounds better with a Marshall. Something about that tone.
First negative ish review I've seen on this amp... But that's fair enough. I probably wouldn't gel with this amp either since I prefer more aggressive tighter high gain amps like EVHs Amps as well. Although it was good enough for Alexi Laiho.
Do a Marshall vs EVH review.
That sounds like a good idea
I have to say watching you play threw this amp you having to really work hard to get your sound that you always have! Marshall amps are good amps! But for you this marshall is big know for you! I have a Blackstar 100 and i'm having the same thing i'm going threw it. I play rock and blues stuff and yes i like metal too!
Thanks for commenting. Yes I agree, it was just really hard to get this amplifier to work with me. I felt like I was dragging it behind me the whole time. The truth is, we do listen with our hands as well as our ears. If an amplifier is not responding to how we play, then we have to cut it loose.
@@TONEWARSgearshow I do want to point out as well sometimes the guitar that we used after a while just does not do what we want it too! But in your case your guitar id great! How do i know that? you used that guitar pretty much all the time for what i see and sounds great! I got a new guitar a esp love guitar i play all the time i also have a les paul nice guitar now i find everytime i play it just does not work for me any more and take our friend ED van halen look at him he had a marshall them look were gone his and his guitar's. the more you play your guitar the better you play! your tone your sound feel everything takes a change for the better. I fell like i writing a book! But you know this your self that was a very good video you did. ROCK on.
Works for Buckethead 🤷♂️
4:27 lol
I don't get it. For me Marshalls have the most brutal sound of all. They can get muddy quickly indeed, that because of the immense distortion they have, but a dialed Mudkiller pedal or Friedman Buxom Boost is a thankfull tool. JCM 2000's played on those hatefull and fizzy G-12 cabinets....th-cam.com/video/V4aBrYqbFOE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ed8TuhWUz9HNZlVl
Bro how long have you been playing?😂 by now you should know that with high gain amps you need to pair em. Like who doesn’t know that, any musician you used to listen too, you can’t be that oblivous
Sell it! To me,…for,…fifty bucks!!🤣🤣
Every single marshall I've ever heard sounds hairy/fuzzy to me. Don't like em
That’s why I like em 😂
I don’t think you’re really a Marshall guy. They’re definitely not for everyone. I personally only like the early models like the JTM and the Plexi, and I always get crap for not liking the later series amps like the JCM 800. The Marshall army is strong and dedicated and I’m sure you’ll get some venom for your opinion. Just ignore it and keep making great videos!
Thank you so much for commenting and for what you said here... yes I'm just not much of a Marshall guy like you said, I just prefer more modern sounding amplifiers
Coming from a Mesa AND Marshall guy ..we wont miss you..AT ALL..(Really, its not us...its you)
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04:26 What's wrong with soy-latte? Tastes awesome, and needs no animal-cruelty.
And avocados are fucking rad as well.
And the JVMs..... I've got a modded 205, and aside from its size and the ridiculously-high noise-floor (cheap components? "Made in UK" my ass), I'm pretty happy with it.
Compared it to a 5153 6L6 50W v2, and that thing's red channel is so damn compressed and gained out... Nah, JVM it is for me.
Oat-latte is even better ;-)
Lol honestly, I hate cow's milk. The smell alone makes me nauseous. I love oat milk though.