Could Amber Be The Shortest & WORST Pitch EVER? | Shark Tank US | Shark Tank Global
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ค. 2023
- Kyle Byrd & Bill Shuey are seeking $200,000 for 20% of their public phone charging station, Amber.
From Season 6 Episode 1
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Yes, we tested it a million times without doors. It works!!!
😂🤣😂
Lmao
Lol
Good point, I honestly didn’t think about that 😅😅 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How do you go on this show without the doors? It must have failed testing right before taping.
You can see the taller guy is like "yeah that was a pretty stupid idea now that I think about it." While the short guy is like "wow my feelings are hurt now I'm going to hurt them." One will succeed one will not.
@@coreycleven8414 These days it's needed because you're starting your life out six figures in debt.
I would expect nothing less from a manlet.
Peers want to start six figures but it may not be realistic to get in the door. Seniors I know are struggling to get jobs and it's almost April. I'm still looking for an internship to add industry experience. At this point I'll take whatever internship that opens, even if it's not directly related to interest in robotics.
@@bruce-5926belittling people for things they can’t control, saying things like ‘manlet’ says a lot more about you than him champion
I am sure you have succeeded eh 😅
Bro the guys partner looked so embarrassed when the other guy said he wanted to punch Robert in the teeth at the end
He didn't say Robert or did i miss something? Mark and Kevin were the ones who complained so much.
@@Mikael2492e said his Robert's last name at the end
@@Mikael2492 Yea he literally said his last name
what’s sucky attitude. no wonder his pitch idea failed!
@@Mikael2492 HER ZE VAC
Didn’t think this was the worst pitch, but I agree most with Mark’s points about lines and cleanliness.
It might not be the worst pitch, but it very well could be the worst business pitched
The worst pitch has yet to be beaten from the first season. Ionic Ear. Requires surgery to implant bluetooth technology. And to get any upgrades, you would have to go back for more surgery.
Yea I guess mark has the same pitch about doorknobs and everything else huh…
@@DonkeyThong64yea agreed
@@kalebanth8323how many doors are there at an open festival lol
The fact that he threatened Robert shows how big of a bullet they all dodged… no one wants an emotionally unstable businessman
napoleon complex. Little guys taking everything so damn personal
@@johnw8102maybe he didn't get enough sleep the night before? Not everyone cares about how tall they are.
He looks angry too, very stressed
"threatened." Robert just pointed out fact.
relax man, its reality tv!
A security pin system would've been less expensive than a fingerprint system and would be very easy to access too.
No way plenty of people would forget that after a couple hours of drinking
@@mitchellkoch3065 that's the system ive always seen public lockers use, you typically pick ur debit card pin so you dont forget it
@@devonwhite2443 if this is for use at a bar, you need biometric because drunk patrons will forget
@@mitchellkoch30651 2 3 4
I was thinking facial recognition would be perfect.
“You’ve come out with an incredibly elegant solution…..to free” might be the most low-key, savage burn I’ve ever heard.
but like free is a problem that businesses want a solution to... monitizing things that were previously free is a common and sucessful tactic
@@avoidemailingme Why would a venue rather pay $2000 for their charger than receive a free charger with an ad on it?
@@XxTheMaster99xX same reason venues pay to rent pool tables and lockers because they want a precentage of the profits and none of the hastle instead of all of the profits and all of hte hastle its a pretty common model lol
That's not a burn, dude
@@CirrowProductions just hate it when teenagers with no concept of the business world watch this show and comment.....it's not a burn......people act like sharks are trying to hurt feelings when it's a matter of being blunt.....direct feedback is good.....you can really tell who has worked before and who hasn't.
Using a public charging station is an insane security risk
they are actually pretty common now in places like arenas so the idea wasn't bad it was mainly the presentation
@@flareahmadwilliams351 yes they are common but it doesn't make them any more secure. look into 'juice jacking'
I'm not sure when this first aired, but yeah, "juice jacking" or whatever we want to call it, don't connect your device to anything that you can't trust... portable power banks are super cheap.
@@sbraudrick agreed. The main issue IMO is that you can always just buy a portable charging bank for really cheap. There’s no need to take the risk. Cool idea but it doesn’t sound like an essential.
Absolutely. I don’t even use the USB outlets on lamps in hotels and such, I bring my own charger and cube and plug it into the electric outlet. No chance I’m going to use some public charging system that I have no control over.
I dated a girl named Amber once, so I knew immediately this pitch would be a fail.
That's cold 😂😂
was she a cheerleader?
hahhaa 😂 that gave me a good laugh!
…and for that reason, I’m out.
Beautiful
Seems like they got drunk at a bar, wanted to charge their phones, and suddenly some dim lightbulb went off and they decided to make this idea.
Haha
This is a 10/10 comment tbh
and their bartender named amber lost their phones
Emphasis on “dim lightbulb” 😂
lmao
Someone else already fixed that problem years ago with those little portable charging batteries. They are cheap, there’s no security risk, and they even fit in your pocket!
New York City literally has free public charging ports on the street lmao
And I've seen the same thing they're pitching in Target. You sign up, pick a picture code, and when you come back you put your email and press your code lmao
I came here to say this. I have two portable batteries. The first one I bought still works, but the second one has a larger battery life, so it can charge two phones.
You have to have them on you at all times.
That's not a huge problem.
powerbanks. Literally been around so long they're already out of fashion. Right around the time phones which generally last all day were invented.
This feels like it would be useful on a very small scale back in 1995 in office buildings.
2:26 - Note what he says, he said "We test it all on the back end"
What that means is that the code for the fingerprint scanner works, but they haven't tested out the hardware (the actual technology). Which is a massive problem, the code could run no problem, but the actual application of that code through the physical technology could not work.
Yup, I am pretty sure their code can handle the requests to open or close the door. It's just the finger scan would be sending wrong signals lol
That's not what he meant. Since they don't have the doors yet, they had to check in the backend if the fingerprint scan was working correctly
which means they can call a finger print api lol
Robert hit the nail on the head. The fingerprint scanner is the biggest flaw with this business.
Yeah in 2014 when this originally aired, sure. Back then indeed fingerprint sensors were pretty poor, and good ones very expensive. Today fingerprint sensors (that work well) are everywhere, including on every laptop, cellphone, etc. That said it's not a good idea in any event, esp. with what it was costing them.
@@rolandm9750 yeah. Even today I’d stay away from that route. Especially in a public setting when it can get pretty dirty quickly. Do something else. Scan a drivers license or something. And then collect that data and sell to Google and make money that way? lol
no the biggest flaw is that a bar would pay ANYTHING for this. It does not help them generate business, it's only an unnecessary expese
@@buffalobilly6046 it’s a flaw yes but not the biggest. Even if not bars, other places will pay just to be rid of the headache.
Agreed, even in 2024, my phones finger print sensor works 20% of the time.
The tall guy is super professional and kept his composure. He did most all the talking too. I really hope they're not 50/50 partners because the little one is dragging him down.
He’s not little according to his mom. He’s 4’9
Little guy is the drunk frat boy hanger on
Tall guy was hella attractive, shorty is such a crybaby 😂
Tall guy kept talking over the sharks and left the sharks poking holes in their product. The short guy didn’t talk much.
The little one 😂👌🏼
The best part is 1:48. Mark’s reaction tells you everything you need to know- initial shock, quickly followed by the realization that he’s talking to a couple of totally clueless college bros who are about to get torn apart. Just great.
You’re cringe
Went back to watch this and you're right that was such a wicked smirk LMAO
insane!!!! lol
It's probably not a genuine reaction, probably spliced from a later or earlier part of the scene. Learn how reality television is made.
@@theloanranger2632 🤓🤓🤓
I love mark because he has real empathy for this guys and he knows they’ve put a lot of effort in their business. Kevin, the scammers lover, is so cruel to them for no reason.
Kevin is the man stop it. How is he a scammer?
@@robtor5895 they're implying he loves scammers bc he didn't do his due diligence and lost money in the ftx scam
And repeatedly defended sbf even after everything was exposed. He lost all credibility after that
@@JohnStockton7459 sucking up to rich people doesn't help you get richer
A lot of effort? What effort could it possibly take? Their prototype didn't even work. It's basically a cubby shelf.
AMBER went out of business in 2015, Kyle and Bill secured employment afterwards. They did not take into consideration the most obvious, technology advancement would outpace their concept since being in high school.
Which was? The portable charger??
@@dylancooper4993and public wireless chargers. This was quite possibly the most gimmicky thing ever pitched on this show
Also the fact batteries large so much longer
@@thomasayoub I’m guessing you never saw the pitch for a post it note holder that attaches to your laptop
the problem with being young and combative like they were. straight out of college you think you know everything, when in reality - you know absolutely nothing.
Guy on the left would be 100x more successful on his own
the pitch itself was pretty good and clear. It's the product that's unecessary
I heard Barbara saw this pitch when it aired, became very emotional, and called the guys to tell her she was out.
The biggest problem with this is that they were trying to charge $2000 per unit. Way too expensive.
True. Also, way too low compared to their production cost.
Even $750 is dumb.
It was marketed towards businesses not your average consumer so this comment doesn't make sense.
@@coolerplays3477even for businesses $2000 is a lot for a convenience item
@@coolerplays3477 How does it not make sense? Like they stated you can't beat free. No businesses would want this. They won't make any money off of it.
Yeah!! Lori is your biggest competition when she said she's got something that's light-years ahead of their idea
what is it
Probably power banks
Portable Chargers
Portable chargers
Power banks have existed prior to 2015 😀
They definitely brought these guys on the show to make fun of them. Ain’t no way the producers thought that pitch was a good idea 😂
well you have to remember it's a show for entertainment. So they definitely do just let things on bc they think they'll have higher entertainment value even if they're not good.
Remember potato parcel? They actually got a deal
apparently this was actually confirmed. the show found out about their company and invited them to go on, and that's why they went on before their company was really ready.
So that others can shine with a fine product (like the Scrub Daddy), they need some guys to fail with their sh*tty product :D
Figured the producers would throw a curveball for entertainment purposes and not just actual business deals.
Wow, so not only do they get destroyed by the sharks but then one of the guys threatens Robert at the end... good luck boys!
guy gets his feelings hurt by valid criticisms by a leader in the security space, no chance these dudes go anywhere 😂
Yeah unfortunately the producers decided to air that comment. They didn't get any favors in the tank, let them walk away without exposing that stupid comment to the world imo.
what did he say?
@@FawadNaeem898he said he wanted to go rail Robert in the teeth.
They destroyed any reason for anyone in any capacity to ever get involved with them.
"We tested it a million times" tested what? A fingerprint sensor and a box full of cables? Half of the product doesn't even exist!
Robert was probably the most respectful towards them, that tells you a lot about the dude
4:56 I’ve never seen anyone so happy and enthusiastic to tell someone how much they hate their business and how bad it is 😂
“I hate this so much it’s incredible😄. This is the worst ideas I’ve ever seen😃”
Barbara saw this invention ahead of the episode being filmed. She wasn’t a shark in the episode cause she was already out.
Bro in the womb Barbara was like im out
@@splashwealthI love being here, it's nice, it's warm, I don't worry about anything. All my needs are met and I don't even have to move a muscle.
And for that, I'm out.
1. Your Barbara joke is NOT funny. 2. Also a Blatant Lie !!
>casually spreading misinformation for a chuckle
Yikers.
😅.
“We’re sourcing our locks through MasterLock”
**LockPickingLawyer barges in**
The lock picking lawyer would have a field day when they mentioned master lock
2:21 LPL: "Did I hear Master Lock?"
He would destroy this in under a minute with multiple ways. 😂
@@AvidDoes He would destroy it with a glance.
I think Kevin is the most ruthless shark, he just gave it to them straight
And yet Robert gets the threat lol.
Honestly, they all gave it to them straight. Kevin was the only one who was enjoying their suffering. Ruthless indeed.
When you have a business this bad, the kind thing to do is actually be brutally honest and tell them how much it sucks. These guys probably had so many close family and friends keep telling them to “chase their dream” and that they had a good idea that the entrepreneurs were totally blinded by how terrible it actually is. Realizing your business is doomed is the first step to ending it and moving on to something more productive in your life.
That's why Kevin is my favorite shark
All of them can be ruthless in feedback. They are called Sharks for a reason. This is about people's money and people LOVE their money and hate losing it. This show isn't for encouraging bad entrepreneurs and bad products to keep going.
“Pre-revenue”, pre-business plan, pre-prototype. Thanks for playing.
whenever i see mark doing that mouth switch, i immediately know that the pitch is a fail
These guys really asked a room full of people who have flown private since smartphones came about if they know what it's like to sit around an airport waiting to board the plane. the first sentence of the pitch was the first nail in the coffin
That’s not the point 💀 they didn’t have a good idea to being with
😂true😂
The Sharks invest in products for average people though, not themselves. They are interested in what the masses will buy, not just what their own experiences are.
Robert is heavily into security, He raised doubts about fingerprint recognition with his $50K machines! ,,,these college guys should have listened INTENSELY
no, because while the sharks may have private jets, they probably understand that a large chunk of their consumers face this issue.
When investors are pitched an idea, they assume the position of a customer. They know most products aren't for them. Hence the "explain like i'm 5". They ask that to see if your average customer will understand what the product is.
a couple of college kids who came up with an Idea during school.. can't fault them for it, they went way overboard
Then they should go in and ask for like 25k for 50% to launch the product. These are basically super high-risk investments that failure rate is extremely high. If you ask for chum change the sharks might be able to gamble with you
After a lengthy struggle, Amber ultimately went out of business in 2015.
Doubt it was actually "lengthy"
Looks like they did reduce the production cost and the amount they charged the businesses but they could not find many customers.
Better portable changers and longer battery life meant that the use of such changing stations was going to be limited.
@@patelk464 This bit probably cratered them.
"I'd probably go rail Herjavec in the teeth."
_Yeh... That's NOT someone you'd wanna be an investor for._
I was wondering what he said at the end!..thank you!..
@SkippyDunlap
Lol np. 👍🏾
"I have to hire you just to fire you"😂😂
Instead of a fingerprint scanner they should try and incorporate a credit/debit card reader, perhaps.
Or facial recognition, that would work perfectly
Credit cards can be stolen
nah that a dumb idea too no offence
LMAO CREDIT CARD ? Are you safe putting your credit card on something like this?
I go inside the gas station and pay with my card to pump gas. I’d never scan my card in a public place especially a bar lol
Seems like they’re solving a problem that doesn’t really exist
It existed back then.
Honestly the fact that this is "portable" and that you dont even get to use your own charger probably means it'll take ages for a full charge.
What an angry little jockey that dude was... Robert would prolly drop him if push came to shove.
I doubt that very much.
@@JRoenickRoberts actually pretty strong surprisingly but yeah he’s probably lose haha
5:49 he went full South Boston in that post-pitch interview “I’d probably go rail Herjavec in the teeth” 😂
Care to translate to english my g?
@@sidettildemI’m wondering the same 🤷🏻♂️
@@sidettildem Herjavec is the shark who sits on the right (far) side. He's saying he wants to punch him.
@@sidettildem”I’d probably go punch Robert Herjavec in the teeth”
Btw, am I the only one wondering why those guyss decided to go for a finger print scan (expensive and ineffectve) rather than simply having a pin code that has to be entered for each user (sorta how the lockers in gyms work)
I am assuming they had plans to sell the biometric data they collect. Their real business wasn't in selling these devices but in collecting data on their users
drunk people wouldn't remember the pin code.
@@flashypork This is very possible
@dee ttee Yeah, but I think it can still be overcome. For example, if the machine spews out a small note with the code on it that you have to keep + the bar owner has a master code in case somebody has forgotten their pincode
@@deettee6794Very true. I work at a bank, and 50% of sober people can’t remember the pin for their debit cards
I've seen these everywhere, not by these guys but an actual reputable brand. They seem to do pretty well
“The worst they can say is no”
You can clearly tell this is the first time either of them heard any negative criticism of their work.
It wasn't that bad lol
I think it's a good idea for businesses that have business phones for employees, it's pretty much just a charging dock with security.
Not at all
Not with fingerprint. You could do the exact same thing with a pin pad
Ignore the nay-sayers. This idea is based.
Why would a charging dock for business phones need security though? Just put the dock in an area only employees can get to. Some hospitals have phones they give employees at the start of their shift. The charging stations aren't out in the open and they require a special sign on to even use.
This product overcomplicates simple solutions
Or just buy a couple iPhone chargers
Worst Shark Tank pitch was a couple who pitched an aphrodisiac bar. It was never tested or proven to even work. It tasted horrible, they had no sales. Best part is they were a husband and wife who both had 6 figure jobs they gave up to do this. They spent all they're savings and 401k on it leaving then with nothing. Sold their house, sold their cars. And on top of that.. the husband needed an operation in his brain and without it they might have a year for him to live. They were in absolute tears. Horrible and pathetic in every way.
Calling a cancer victim pathetic is a pretty yikes look bro
@@AppleOfThineEye it wasn't cancer. Some kind of brain aneurism he needed operated on. Point was they gave up their jobs on this dream instead of focusing on getting him medical care. They need priorities.
@@nicholaspetrino7695 Calling an aneurysm victim pathetic is a pretty yikes look bro.*
@@AppleOfThineEye 🤣🤣🤣
@@nicholaspetrino7695 "I don't have a rebuttal"
Okay.
So this is way before power banks came into the picture!
0:57 that dude couldn’t clean his nails before his presentation? LOL
A public charging station with some security is not a bad idea. In fact, it has been thought of a billion time in a billion different ways. The execution here is very ill thought out.
Dang they got torched
i love the little sound effects they do when they show the numbers and everything. it's like that's the blood in the water and the sharks are now gathering. this show is really fun in that way. their soundtrack is great.
Lori: I’m developing things lightyears ahead of this
Mark: That is such a bad business
Kevin: It’s one of the worst ideas I’ve ever seen
Amber Developer: Okay
Robert: Here’s some legitimate criticism so I’m out
Amber Developer: I want to rail you in the teeth 😤 🤜
Exactly i was like wth
These have been a thing that already exist for ages! There's one at the Canberra train station here in Australia that uses a code - it works amazingly because there are seats right there and the station is small
Power banks are super cheap, and even cheaper to the point of free is a power brick and cable. It really is tough to compete with free.
I love Kevin “I have to hire you both so I can fire you “ 😂😂😂 😂
Guy: "We are currently sourcing with MasterLock"
Lockpicking Lawyer: 🤔
I saw something like this at a meeting in Berlin in 2023. People were using it and it looked great. Little cubby holes with phones charging. It might have used credit cards for security. I'm not sure.
0:56 - If I was gonna scan my finger on national TV, I would at least cleaned my fingernails.
Ew, good point.
Lol the way they zoomed in on that guys face!!!
Short homie looked devastated. Tall homie looked like he knew their product was trash.
worst pitch would be Rolodoc😂😂😂
This probably happened before Rolodoc 😂
@@Twiiisted84 This is Season Six. Rolodoc was Season Five. (interestingly though, they were both in the first episodes of their respective seasons.)
😂😂😂😂
Nah worst pitch gotta be the bluetooth ear piece
7 ports only for $2k at an arena with thousands of people who may need it.
That last interaction there when he said “you wanted me to be honest I’m being honest”. That is me and my wife lmfaoo
Ouch. That guy was absolutely crushed
Little frat bro is so angry lol
I take it this is ancient. Phones have had fingerprint sensors for like 5+ years now
I don't know how many times I've rewatched this.
To be honest, maybe they were overthinking, going too high tech, maybe they could have just made a simple locker for phones with keys or chips that were handed out and easy to scan.
for anyone wondering, they actually shut down their business after this.
Don’t know when this was filmed, but I’ve seem far better version in shopping mall 10 years ago (using card swipe instead of fingerprint).. there is a reason they are pre-revenue.. so many logistical issues and they will realize when they try to sell them
"We're actually currently sourcing our locks through masterlock"
Ah, so I can open it by just angrily staring at it. Got it.
"We have a lot of competitors"
*lori just sitting there smiling (she's ur competitor lol)*
Wow his comments at the end. What a pair.
What did he say? I couldn't understand him
@@D1SNEYM0V1ES I think he said he wanted to ‘nail Herjovac in his teeth’. But, not 100% sure.
I would rail Herjovivc* in the teeth. Kinda kinky really 😅
He basically said he wanted to punch him.
Robert was far from being the most insulting lol
I think they were hoping for a deal from him from that start because of the internet security background, so his rejection hurt the most.
There are a million solutions to this product. Portable usb chargers have existed for 20 years and are the size of an eraser.
Except so many people don't carry them around. I'm a bartender and it's insane how many people go out with dying phones and get upset that I don't have a charger.
People who think just going to university provides the education and experience to run a business. 🤣🤣🤣
Something seemed really off about the shorter one.
if Kevin doesn't have an interest, you know theres a problem.
When you’re at a bar drinking and that’s the moment you get inspired, pause.
“I hate this so much it’s incredible” 😂😂
I don't know the details and measurements, but I think anyone could just walk up, pick up the device, and leave. Very susceptible for stealing! 😳
It’s bolted to the wall
@@AllisonLinner but you wrote, "ANYONE could walk up...pick up...and leave."
Let's see "anyone" try that with something that's bolted properly. 😂
@@AllisonLinner Girl don't argue with the FBI, they have a lot of researchers
@@AllisonLinner who tf is gonna be able to walk in and un-bolt that in the middle of a public venue?
@@elianderson3450they’re talking abt the phones
Keys have worked in sports venue lockers for years? I used to put a coin in to get the key. Put the key back to get your stuff out. Key is then back where it started. Keys are cheap to replace too.
"We're sourcing the locks from Master Locks." Yikes. If I was a shark, for that reason alone I would've been out.
Funny because my university has actually used something similar to these for many semesters now. Except there it’s more of a little locker with every kind of charger inside, and it used a numpad lock, not a fingerprint.
That short guy is a walking red flag 🚩
You can instantly tell 🤣🤣
Everywhere now is warning Do NOT use public chargers at the airports. You giving yr data up to whoever and they can easily clear yr bank account by knowing yr passwords.
I’m sure this is an old episode, but for real you guys have a 30 pin in there lmao 🤣
"you've come up with an incredibly elegant solution....to free" that's a quote worth remembering
Amber dude: "we source out locks though Master Lock"
Me: Why do I suddenly hear Megalovania playing and see LPL`s hands in the shadows? :O
And how is this easier and simpler than bringing your own charger?
The partner straight up said "Wow that's rude." And then followed it after the guy tried to clear his name with "well she said how do you truly feel" with "no, no, just..." Says a lot when even your partner is embarrassed by you...
You know you done fugged up when you start talk'in about punching a Shark in the mouth 🤣🤣🤣
You could tell from almost the very beginning that the short guy was either about to cry or blow the F up . I see that Amber went out of business, but I think the first thing is to get rid of that partner.
Also, even if this was a good idea. They should have had a completed prototype doors and all.
Dang if looks could kill... 2:37
Now, fingerprint scanners work on phones and they work so fast, but normal fingerprint scanners seem to still be slightly behind
Actually this is pretty common in europe but instead of finger print scanner there is pin code like on locks