Been thinking about it and having the rear shock set for my weight might of helped some.. I’m always grinding my pipes and even floorboards on my Harley 😄👍
Of all the bikes I threw my leg over at the 2023 NEC show, this is the one I felt most at home on, plus the build quality and features are very impressive. On principle, I'm reluctant to buy anything that is built in China, under the current regime, but this bike is hard to ignore. The biggest show stopper for me is the lack of accessories, they should have followed other manufacturers models of releasing a load of accessories when launched - backrest, luggage rack etc.
Hi Jezza…I agree with you..When I first saw the bike 2 years? Ago at the NEC I thought it looked great but if we all decided not to use Chinese products for political reasons we’d all probably be sitting on wooden boxes in empty houses.. Food for thought 😄..I do understand where your coming from though…👍ATB
Hi Stephen… I wasn’t riding it in China bud..The bikes in UK showrooms now…And at the price stated in the vid…. Unless I misunderstood your comment.. 👍ATB
Thanks Simon.. It is with regards to the HD water cooled stuff..Their air cooled Big Twins? Probably not..I enjoyed riding the bike.. I’d just change the muffler on it.. Thanks for watching.. ATB 👍
Thanks 🙂🌴… I’d choose it over the water cooled Harley cruisers … Think the writings on the wall for the big air cooled motors .. Reckon that’s the reason for Indian Motorcycles re-framing and upgrading to bigger motors on their Scout range which look so much better than the Harley may I add…👍ATB
The two of you have come up with a unique format there my friends. Two completely different styles of bixe in a, for me back to back two video viewing experience!!
😄..Thanks Simon..Sandy is like a brother to me and one of the most unassuming people you could want to meet.. Very intelligent and talented chap..Thanks for watching 👍ATB
Hi Bill.. Will be taking one out in the new year..They’re getting really good reviews in the Uk..Around 2k cheaper than a Honda .. They’re basically a KLX300 Kwak but don’t tell anyone 😉👍
That looks good , has a few issues , but so do Harleys in my opinion . Nothing unfixable , Great vid thanks . I live in the Cotswold's too , lovely ride outs round that area .
We’re lucky..Beautiful place..And your dead tight.. Most things are fixable.. A couple of adapter link pipes and and some nice supertrapp disc load mufflers would sort the MBP out ..and would look and sound fantastic….👍ATB
Same as.. The bike intrigued me when I sat on it last year at the NEC.. It hadn’t been launched then but I though it was visually stunning.. I’ve ridden Harley’s for 30 odd years and still own a few..I thoroughly enjoyed riding this bike and would love to do a mild custom job on it.. Starting with the exhaust 😄..ATB 👍
Now that would be interesting 😄…What with the HD people and being patriotic… Surprised you haven’t got them yet… I do own a few Harley’s so I reckon it was an honest review.. Tis a good bike Will…Take care ride safe 👍
@@DickieMintCycles I have two Victory's, a Triumph Nightstorm 1700 and a Guzzi California 1400. Would like to see how this bike stacks up against them.
Hi great video nice review on the bike pipes on the right very low to the ground for me nice to see Wiltshire man helping with the filming can I ask have you got biking and camping video coming up in the future so very enjoyable I miss my motorbike to ill health so very nice to watch you enjoying your self Craig.😊
Enjoyed the video, i have a scout which I love but this looks every bit as good Plus alot of bike for the money. Cheers Dickie keep up the good work 👍🏍
Good Morning Dickie , Great to see you out & about , brilliant review on this bike as you said the exhaust needs sorting out plus i think a screen would help also the pillion seat could do with being wider tbh , so take care & ride safe , ( your getting better mate )
Nice one Dickie, a very informative review. Although cruisers aren't my thing but this one does look good, the only thing is those exhausts. I'm looking forward to my test ride on the Voge 300 Rally and will be interested in your take on it.
Issue could well of been setting the rear shock up for my weight…It might of helped with the exhaust issue.. The Vouge 300 Rally is getting really good reviews 👍
Interesting bike, looks reasonably good looking… there is one main issue with Chinese bikes, that’s spares supplies. However this may change over time. Great review. 👍
You have a point .. Experienced it myself…Apparently things have improved somewhat… There are ways to skirt around the official importers and get parts a lot quicker..Owners forums are a gold mine of help..👍
@@DickieMintCycles This. I've already had one issue with my Hoodlum, I dropped the garage door on the tail light - couldn't get a factory spare, had to get one off a breaker. Also: where the hell are the workshop manuals for the things?? The Hoodlum's been out for long enough that there SHOULD be one by now.
Nicely put together review, first on seeing the brand, Sandy only covered your ride in part and showed just how the exhaust gets close to touchdown in roundabouts.. a bike for straight lines or left turns only...! Be no fun if mid right bend it suddenly tightened, more than sparks would fly. Not be parting with the Himalaya myself for one, if had room for second bike and something to cruise on then the Super Meteor.. Price wise could get a good, cared for Harley secondhand if that floats your boat. Stay safe Cheers
I think if I owned one I’d just throw it into right handers and ware the exhaust trim away like I do on my Harley’s .. In fact I’ve totally worn away half a floorboard bracket on one of em..😄👍
Interesting but a bit too low on the rhs. Perhaps give the 650 super meteor a try and tell us what you think of that. I wasn’t in the market for a cruiser but an RE dealer suggested i try it and i was impressed.
Hi Jonathan.. Am working on a vlog for the Super Meteor but I pushed it back as the MBP Became available..The Meteor vlog will be put up shortly and will be a good one 😉👍ATB Ride safe ..
Hi Bruce.. Seemed very well built to me… The Chinese are building good quality motorcycles nowadays and produce engines for Yamaha, Suzuki and KTM to name a few.. Owned a Benelli TRK for a while and the motor in that was great..
Thanks for the video(and your other videos too BTW),Cruisers aren't my style though the bike's a great looker all the same. BTW,what are the riding trousers you're wearing in the video,they look a good fit and are quite stylish with it.
@@DickieMintCycles Thanks for the quick reply,they look like good kit,I have the Mondials,but the Motreal look like a step up. Thanks again and keep up the good work😊
Been a weird one regarding this bike…The bikes are pretty thin on the ground as far as I’m concerned.. MotoGB the distributors have been very slow at getting these things to dealerships.. There’s one doing the rounds on TH-cam at the moment in the UK with various established channels..As for accessories? I haven’t seen anything..Shame, as it’s a real nice bike..👍
Hate to think 😆…The new Harley’s aren’t on the register as far as I’m concerned..If your going water cooled it’s close your eyes and pick a straw and hope it’s not too ugly …Saying that, Indians done a good job with the new scout.. Quite liking that..👍ATB
Looks okay but at that price you could have a good choice of second hand Harley's, that will hold their value and have proven reliabilty? Is the Nightster work 2K more? I think that the answer, for most people will be yes. The exhaust issue is a major problem for me. I have owned many cruisers over the years and so am used to pegs touching down but the exhaust is a different matter? Also, I am not fond of the indicator/plate mount, which I have also seen on the Benelli. Being an older rider, TFT screens are not something that I am used to and I am happier with clocks. Thanks for the review but I would be surprised if they sell many in the UK.
Don’t think there will be any reliability issues.. China is making good engines nowadays.. Plus making motors for big name Japanese bike producers..Plus KTM.. The plate mount is pretty common on bikes now including Triumphs Rocket 3.. Fair point regarding consumers opting for the Harley brand name.. But it is just a name nowadays with the water cooled motors.. The Mo.Co that I knew has long disappeared.. How much longer Harley will be able to produce the air cooled big twins is limited I think.. And the big twins are the very fabric of what we know as Harley Davidson Mo.Co..ATB 👍
@DickieMintCycles I agree about the current reliability of Chinese motors, but the perception of many people is that they are unreliable, based on earlier models. Much the same as some riders still think that Indian made motorcycles are poorly built and/or unreliable? Or how Japanese motorcycles were initially viewed. Regardless of how HD have changed, there is still power in that name. In a similar way, riders respect the Triumph name, even though most of the bikes are now built in Thailand, or with the 400s, India.
In the UK, i think we have more right hand turns than left handers, i gjess roundabouts are a problem with the exhaust being on the right side of the bike. Perhaps a UK friendly version would be better? Good review Dickie.
Hi Andy.. Thanks 🙂.. I’d fit a set of after market pipes if they’re available.. If they’re not then it’s an ideal opportunity for a exhaust pipe manufacturer to address the problem.. 👍
I didn't think thay were bringing it to the uk ,,,thank God thay changed the name ,,,in China it's called,,,,,bender,,,,😂,,just right to go cruising on ,great vid,..
😆 Had a good old ride on a Benda today …Naaa …They actually have it written on the headlight so people know it’s a Benda coming down the road..Motor Bologna Passione (MBP) is a lot better…ish…🤔👍ATB
Think they hit the dealerships around late September ish…..Pretty low Key-way (excuse the pun)😄 launch by the importers Moto GB for some reason… £9799 otr. I do believe.. 👍
Looks great and goes well but at only 2k cheaper than a Harley, people will buy the Harley for the image. And the usual caveat is who does warranty and spare parts worldwide?
Hi Mike.. These established companies in China who make these bikes are huge..The MBP is part of the Keeway group which is global..As for people buying Harley for the name you may be right..The revolution motor just doesn’t look right sat in a cruiser style bike..It works with the Pan America which it was designed for I guess ..
I am not into cruisers or even Harleys . But what let’s that bike down is the rear end looks a right dogs dinner with that biitza rear mudguard ,& the exhaust looks like a product from scrapheap challenge . Otherwise not a bad effort the tank looks very Honda - ish which is no bad thing .
😄..Yep.. The rear plastic number plate / indicator mount is terrible.. A lot of manufacturers are using this system at the moment.. The exhaust silencer isn’t great either .. Both replaceable very fixable though ..👍ATB
@@DickieMintCycles I don’t know why they don’t just design it with a proper standard rear mudguard with normal rear light & reg plate . That squared off seat & rear light arrangement coming to a sudden stop ,makes it look like it’s been kicked up the arse . This is a product of allowing too many gamer nerds free run in motorcycle design departments . Pity because although I am not a big fan of cruisers , with a bit more thought & probably no more expense ,it could have looked so much better . 👍
That exhaust issue needs sorting for Uk/Europe sales I reckon, the fact that it's Chinese means it's already got US sales obstacles, even before they ride it. It would be an easy bike to follow on a dark night on twisty roads, just look for the trail of sparks on right handers..😆 Good honest review though Dickie. 👍
Thanks for that, have been awaiting a review of a bike that comes with several different manufacturers names on it??? Sad really that here we are in 23 and somebody brings out a very low bike that easily drags its pipes! I believe there will be many more nasty things to uncover as they age - like my mate not being able to sell his Benelli cos trade DO-NOT-WANT it at any price!!
Yep..🙂… Spent 20 minutes this afternoon bolting the exhaust hanger and mufflers which had started to detach themselves - back on to my premium priced Harley Davidson Motorcycle.. They’re all scraped up as well 😄…..I liked the Gaokin Thore..It’s a well put together bike and I enjoyed riding it..Pipes were low which to my mind is a Desighn cock up and as you say is bad on a modern newly designed motorcycle.. But it was a nice enjoyable bike to ride..I liked it.. Put around 10k on my Benelli in a year.. Trade in price was shocking..Appreciate you watching my vlog.. ATB 👍
😄 That’s the UK for you…Great fun.. That MBP rode well considering the big old back tyre.. It would tip into tight corners no problem…Thanks for watching 👍
😄 Twas a nice bike.. Enjoyed riding it .. Well mannered even with the huge rear tyre..Ally frame as well..Needed the stock mufflers binning and a set of supertrapps fitting to cure the right hand scrapes…Job done… Something a little different I reckon…..Chinese are getting better and better with their bikes… 👍ATB
But we had FS1Es & RDs & XLs & APs & DTs and no I don't mean from drinking too much. There were some great little bikes, of their time sure but great bikes nonetheless. Not sure how many of these they'll sell I know nothing about big cruisers but there are some really good bikes starting to come out of China for sure...
There’s some nice little Chinese bikes with great styling now being produced .. They’ve upped their game as did the Japanese in the 70s….I thought the the 1002V was a really nice bike…Thank you for taking the time to watch 👍
Nice bike and a lot of machine for under £10K, that exhaust needs sorting, perhaps it needs jacking up for your weight. You shouldn't be worrying about turning right.
With the advent of increasing complexity of motorcycles due to ecological mandates, can you be sure that any new bike is free of Chinese parts? Sureley the source lines are blurred nowadays.
Even well known high end cars & motorcycles , either contain components ,full engines manufactured in China or even the whole vehicle manufactured in China these days . The Chinese have all the latest tech & production methods & can produce to any price point or quality required by the customer . You are probably riding or driving a vehicle containing Chinese manufactured parts . I own a Japanese branded Chinese built Suzuki ,& it’s built to the same standard as Japanese built Suzukis & just as 100% reliable as any other Honda or Suzuki I owned in over 50 years of motorcycling on road .
Hi Dave.. I’m comparing it to Harley’s water cooled stuff.. That revolution max thing they brought out had hardly any rear suspension travel at all! Now if your talking Big Twins then I totally agree with you …They’re in a different league.. The MBP is a well put together bike with good quality components .. J-Juan brakes(Brembo) Bosch electronics and so on..I don’t know what you ride but maybe see if you can grab a few hours on one .. It might surprise you..( but not if you ride a Big Twin) 😄 ATB👍
its kinda like a the motorcycle version of COVID 19 ,man made to destroy the western biking industry and put British bike manufactures out of business and only 9000 pounds
Agreed... I think that realistically you need to test these bikes for a week to get a proper idea of them.. I need to get my backside on one of those nightster things to see how it compares..👍
Get rid of the very bad looking licence plate bracket and extend the rear fender and mount the tail lamp and plate to that. The problem is no mater how you switch things up it will always look like a Chinese made want-to-be Harley. The Chinese engineers must think that you steer around corners with the bike totally upright instead of leaning..
Hi James..Yep, a lot of new bikes are running this rear plate set up.. Gets them through all the latest legislation.. Could of stuck it on the side I guess..As for a Harley wannabe ,to my mind the last proper Harley’s finished production 1999.. We’re talking engines …I’m a traditionalist 😄😄👍
Can't bank it over on right hand bends ! Can't be ridden properly then, what's the point in having a bike you can't ride properly, it's more or less another Chinese ripoff copy, made cheaply and sold at a ridiculously high price ! Sounds cheap too, yes I always look for negatives, it's the only way to not be easily impressed with crap, sod looks. Not having a go just an honest up front comment.
There's a huge difference between the grinding the underside of sprung footboards and pegs which doesn't affect handling and the looks of the bike too much and hitting the ground with a fixed item like the exhaust which will be both dangerous and damaging. As OP said, what's the point of this bike ( unless you live in a world without corners )
😄 Funnily enough Pete I checked all that and guess what.. Metal guards front and rear metal tank and even the side trims on the frame were aluminium..Guards weren’t thin crap either.. 👍
Great and very enjoyable ride Dickie, thanks for taking me along. 👍
Your very welcome 🙂👍
That's a great look at that bike Dickie. Thanks a lot for showing it to us and giving us your thoughts about it.
More than welcome...
Great review Dickie. The exhaust issue is rather a big one. That needs sorting for any serious riding. Keep the videos coming!!
Been thinking about it and having the rear shock set for my weight might of helped some.. I’m always grinding my pipes and even floorboards on my Harley 😄👍
Of all the bikes I threw my leg over at the 2023 NEC show, this is the one I felt most at home on, plus the build quality and features are very impressive. On principle, I'm reluctant to buy anything that is built in China, under the current regime, but this bike is hard to ignore. The biggest show stopper for me is the lack of accessories, they should have followed other manufacturers models of releasing a load of accessories when launched - backrest, luggage rack etc.
Hi Jezza…I agree with you..When I first saw the bike 2 years? Ago at the NEC I thought it looked great but if we all decided not to use Chinese products for political reasons we’d all probably be sitting on wooden boxes in empty houses.. Food for thought 😄..I do understand where your coming from though…👍ATB
Great looking bike if it came to England the price would double I bet
Hi Stephen… I wasn’t riding it in China bud..The bikes in UK showrooms now…And at the price stated in the vid…. Unless I misunderstood your comment.. 👍ATB
WOW , thar's so encouraging. It feels like the 1970's all over again, only this time it's China instead of Japan.
That looks like some serious competicion, thanks for showing it to us.
Thanks Simon.. It is with regards to the HD water cooled stuff..Their air cooled Big Twins? Probably not..I enjoyed riding the bike.. I’d just change the muffler on it.. Thanks for watching.. ATB 👍
Lovely watchable review Dickie, it looks a very comfortable bike to ride too:)
Great review Dickie..... A very handsome bike😎👌
Great Vid Dickie! Lovely to see the local countryside. Great value for money bike.
Thanks 🙂🌴… I’d choose it over the water cooled Harley cruisers … Think the writings on the wall for the big air cooled motors .. Reckon that’s the reason for Indian Motorcycles re-framing and upgrading to bigger motors on their Scout range which look so much better than the Harley may I add…👍ATB
The two of you have come up with a unique format there my friends. Two completely different styles of bixe in a, for me back to back two video viewing experience!!
😄..Thanks Simon..Sandy is like a brother to me and one of the most unassuming people you could want to meet.. Very intelligent and talented chap..Thanks for watching 👍ATB
First time I’ve seen one of these bikes quite impressed it does look good Dickie say hello to Sandy for me and ride safe
Will do Chris 👍
Came over from Sandy's channel. Subbed. Very interested in the Voge 300 Rally. We don't have them yet in the States, can't wait to see your review.
Hi Bill.. Will be taking one out in the new year..They’re getting really good reviews in the Uk..Around 2k cheaper than a Honda .. They’re basically a KLX300 Kwak but don’t tell anyone 😉👍
That looks good , has a few issues , but so do Harleys in my opinion .
Nothing unfixable , Great vid thanks . I live in the Cotswold's too , lovely ride outs round that area .
We’re lucky..Beautiful place..And your dead tight.. Most things are fixable.. A couple of adapter link pipes and and some nice supertrapp disc load mufflers would sort the MBP out ..and would look and sound fantastic….👍ATB
I sat on this at the NEC show at the weekend and I was really impressed by it. Very hard to find any reviews on this bike, so thankyou for posting.
Same as.. The bike intrigued me when I sat on it last year at the NEC.. It hadn’t been launched then but I though it was visually stunning.. I’ve ridden Harley’s for 30 odd years and still own a few..I thoroughly enjoyed riding this bike and would love to do a mild custom job on it.. Starting with the exhaust 😄..ATB 👍
Great video the bike looks great as well
Nice isn't it...Lovely looking bike..
Well done for the very honest review by a very experienced rider of various types of bikes.😊😊😊
Thanks Colin.. As long as it’s got two or maybe even 3 wheels I’m a happy chappie ..👍
Geez, what more could you want? Would like to see them here in the U.S. as soon as possible.
Now that would be interesting 😄…What with the HD people and being patriotic… Surprised you haven’t got them yet… I do own a few Harley’s so I reckon it was an honest review.. Tis a good bike Will…Take care ride safe 👍
@@DickieMintCycles I have two Victory's, a Triumph Nightstorm 1700 and a Guzzi California 1400. Would like to see how this bike stacks up against them.
Hi great video nice review on the bike pipes on the right very low to the ground for me nice to see Wiltshire man helping with the filming can I ask have you got biking and camping video coming up in the future so very enjoyable I miss my motorbike to ill health so very nice to watch you enjoying your self Craig.😊
Hi Craig.. Yep, I think there’s one planned for December in Wales 😳😄
Enjoyed the video, i have a scout which I love but this looks every bit as good
Plus alot of bike for the money. Cheers Dickie keep up the good work 👍🏍
I really enjoyed riding it Terry.. 👍
A great review Dickie . I will have to get across to Treads motorcycles for a coffee and a mooch about . 😂👍
Yep.. Drink all their coffee 😄👍
Good Morning Dickie , Great to see you out & about , brilliant review on this bike as you said the exhaust needs sorting out plus i think a screen would help also the pillion seat could do with being wider tbh , so take care & ride safe , ( your getting better mate )
Thanks Steve.. I really liked the bike.. It handled really well for a bike with a fat back tire fitted.. 👍
Good review Dickie, liked the design of the bike and it seemed to ride well enough. Only bit that would put me off it was the lack of juicy noises...
Think a proper set of pipes would sort that one ..I’d personally have some Super Trap mufflers fitted with custom made link pipes..👍
Understood... you need a bollock tickle to go with the glam
Nice one Dickie, a very informative review. Although cruisers aren't my thing but this one does look good, the only thing is those exhausts. I'm looking forward to my test ride on the Voge 300 Rally and will be interested in your take on it.
Issue could well of been setting the rear shock up for my weight…It might of helped with the exhaust issue.. The Vouge 300 Rally is getting really good reviews 👍
Great looking bike.
I reckon 🙂👍
Nice looking bike.
Wow, this MBP looks pretty good. Even the instrument panel is non reflective. At 12:17 ... the headlight looks like a sad old owl. Cool eh!
Sad Owl 🤔😄
Interesting bike, looks reasonably good looking… there is one main issue with Chinese bikes, that’s spares supplies. However this may change over time. Great review. 👍
You have a point .. Experienced it myself…Apparently things have improved somewhat… There are ways to skirt around the official importers and get parts a lot quicker..Owners forums are a gold mine of help..👍
@@DickieMintCycles This. I've already had one issue with my Hoodlum, I dropped the garage door on the tail light - couldn't get a factory spare, had to get one off a breaker. Also: where the hell are the workshop manuals for the things?? The Hoodlum's been out for long enough that there SHOULD be one by now.
The price will plummet 2nd hand compared to a Harley I'd imagine
Yep… Exact problem regarding my Benelli..
Nicely put together review, first on seeing the brand, Sandy only covered your ride in part and showed just how the exhaust gets close to touchdown in roundabouts.. a bike for straight lines or left turns only...! Be no fun if mid right bend it suddenly tightened, more than sparks would fly.
Not be parting with the Himalaya myself for one, if had room for second bike and something to cruise on then the Super Meteor.. Price wise could get a good, cared for Harley secondhand if that floats your boat.
Stay safe Cheers
I think if I owned one I’d just throw it into right handers and ware the exhaust trim away like I do on my Harley’s .. In fact I’ve totally worn away half a floorboard bracket on one of em..😄👍
Shame on bad design.. RE are not so bad after all..@@DickieMintCycles
Interesting but a bit too low on the rhs. Perhaps give the 650 super meteor a try and tell us what you think of that. I wasn’t in the market for a cruiser but an RE dealer suggested i try it and i was impressed.
Hi Jonathan.. Am working on a vlog for the Super Meteor but I pushed it back as the MBP Became available..The Meteor vlog will be put up shortly and will be a good one 😉👍ATB Ride safe ..
Excellent. Thank you.
Nice looking scooter.Will it be dependable over time is the question.
Hi Bruce.. Seemed very well built to me… The Chinese are building good quality motorcycles nowadays and produce engines for Yamaha, Suzuki and KTM to name a few.. Owned a Benelli TRK for a while and the motor in that was great..
Thanks for the video(and your other videos too BTW),Cruisers aren't my style though the bike's a great looker all the same.
BTW,what are the riding trousers you're wearing in the video,they look a good fit and are quite stylish with it.
Hi John… Thanks very much for watching…Trousers are Oxford Products ‘Montreal’… ATB 👍
@@DickieMintCycles Thanks for the quick reply,they look like good kit,I have the Mondials,but the Motreal look like a step up.
Thanks again and keep up the good work😊
I forgot to ask you another thing mate. What about the accessories? It’s still not launched here in wales
Been a weird one regarding this bike…The bikes are pretty thin on the ground as far as I’m concerned.. MotoGB the distributors have been very slow at getting these things to dealerships.. There’s one doing the rounds on TH-cam at the moment in the UK with various established channels..As for accessories? I haven’t seen anything..Shame, as it’s a real nice bike..👍
@@DickieMintCycles yeah, it’s shocking as to why the accessories haven’t been released yet.
What would the social scene look like owning one of these?....not quite a harley lol
Hate to think 😆…The new Harley’s aren’t on the register as far as I’m concerned..If your going water cooled it’s close your eyes and pick a straw and hope it’s not too ugly …Saying that, Indians done a good job with the new scout.. Quite liking that..👍ATB
@@DickieMintCycles yes the new harleys are a different breed now, and a different price lol
Not a fan of the matt black exhaust, in the UK in November and salt I'm not sure if it will last 😊
I’d swap it out and fit a set of stainless super traps on it.. Solve the clearance problem too..👍
Looks okay but at that price you could have a good choice of second hand Harley's, that will hold their value and have proven reliabilty? Is the Nightster work 2K more? I think that the answer, for most people will be yes. The exhaust issue is a major problem for me. I have owned many cruisers over the years and so am used to pegs touching down but the exhaust is a different matter? Also, I am not fond of the indicator/plate mount, which I have also seen on the Benelli. Being an older rider, TFT screens are not something that I am used to and I am happier with clocks.
Thanks for the review but I would be surprised if they sell many in the UK.
Don’t think there will be any reliability issues.. China is making good engines nowadays.. Plus making motors for big name Japanese bike producers..Plus KTM.. The plate mount is pretty common on bikes now including Triumphs Rocket 3.. Fair point regarding consumers opting for the Harley brand name.. But it is just a name nowadays with the water cooled motors.. The Mo.Co that I knew has long disappeared.. How much longer Harley will be able to produce the air cooled big twins is limited I think.. And the big twins are the very fabric of what we know as Harley Davidson Mo.Co..ATB 👍
@DickieMintCycles I agree about the current reliability of Chinese motors, but the perception of many people is that they are unreliable, based on earlier models. Much the same as some riders still think that Indian made motorcycles are poorly built and/or unreliable? Or how Japanese motorcycles were initially viewed.
Regardless of how HD have changed, there is still power in that name. In a similar way, riders respect the Triumph name, even though most of the bikes are now built in Thailand, or with the 400s, India.
Don’t get me started on Thai Triumphs 🇬🇧😣😄
I’d buy this bike over a used Harley any day.
In the UK, i think we have more right hand turns than left handers, i gjess roundabouts are a problem with the exhaust being on the right side of the bike. Perhaps a UK friendly version would be better?
Good review Dickie.
Hi Andy.. Thanks 🙂.. I’d fit a set of after market pipes if they’re available.. If they’re not then it’s an ideal opportunity for a exhaust pipe manufacturer to address the problem.. 👍
Nice looking bike.... The right hand clearance would be an issue where I live though...but I'm sure that could be resolved.
Rear suspension set up correctly for my weight might of helped a bit..Lovely bike though..
@@DickieMintCycles haha well there is that ...
I didn't think thay were bringing it to the uk ,,,thank God thay changed the name ,,,in China it's called,,,,,bender,,,,😂,,just right to go cruising on ,great vid,..
😆 Had a good old ride on a Benda today …Naaa …They actually have it written on the headlight so people know it’s a Benda coming down the road..Motor Bologna Passione (MBP) is a lot better…ish…🤔👍ATB
Is this thing out for retail ? I thought it’s not launched yet
Think they hit the dealerships around late September ish…..Pretty low Key-way (excuse the pun)😄 launch by the importers Moto GB for some reason… £9799 otr. I do believe.. 👍
@@DickieMintCycles thank you for the response
Looks great and goes well but at only 2k cheaper than a Harley, people will buy the Harley for the image. And the usual caveat is who does warranty and spare parts worldwide?
Hi Mike.. These established companies in China who make these bikes are huge..The MBP is part of the Keeway group which is global..As for people buying Harley for the name you may be right..The revolution motor just doesn’t look right sat in a cruiser style bike..It works with the Pan America which it was designed for I guess ..
I am not into cruisers or even Harleys . But what let’s that bike down is the rear end looks a right dogs dinner with that biitza rear mudguard ,& the exhaust looks like a product from scrapheap challenge . Otherwise not a bad effort the tank looks very Honda - ish which is no bad thing .
😄..Yep.. The rear plastic number plate / indicator mount is terrible.. A lot of manufacturers are using this system at the moment.. The exhaust silencer isn’t great either .. Both replaceable very fixable though ..👍ATB
@@DickieMintCycles I don’t know why they don’t just design it with a proper standard rear mudguard with normal rear light & reg plate . That squared off seat & rear light arrangement coming to a sudden stop ,makes it look like it’s been kicked up the arse . This is a product of allowing too many gamer nerds free run in motorcycle design departments . Pity because although I am not a big fan of cruisers , with a bit more thought & probably no more expense ,it could have looked so much better . 👍
That exhaust issue needs sorting for Uk/Europe sales I reckon, the fact that it's Chinese means it's already got US sales obstacles, even before they ride it. It would be an easy bike to follow on a dark night on twisty roads, just look for the trail of sparks on right handers..😆 Good honest review though Dickie. 👍
Hi John.. To be Honest with you I’ve ground the bottoms off of a few Harley’s in my time.. It’s nothing new in that style of bike..👍
Nice, interesting,
Thanks for that, have been awaiting a review of a bike that comes with several different manufacturers names on it??? Sad really that here we are in 23 and somebody brings out a very low bike that easily drags its pipes! I believe there will be many more nasty things to uncover as they age - like my mate not being able to sell his Benelli cos trade DO-NOT-WANT it at any price!!
Yep..🙂… Spent 20 minutes this afternoon bolting the exhaust hanger and mufflers which had started to detach themselves - back on to my premium priced Harley Davidson Motorcycle.. They’re all scraped up as well 😄…..I liked the Gaokin Thore..It’s a well put together bike and I enjoyed riding it..Pipes were low which to my mind is a Desighn cock up and as you say is bad on a modern newly designed motorcycle.. But it was a nice enjoyable bike to ride..I liked it.. Put around 10k on my Benelli in a year.. Trade in price was shocking..Appreciate you watching my vlog.. ATB 👍
Hi dickie never seen that bike before. Nice review mate thank you. Old dave
It’s a nice bike Dave 👍ATB
Those narrow 2-lane roads are scary!
😄 That’s the UK for you…Great fun.. That MBP rode well considering the big old back tyre.. It would tip into tight corners no problem…Thanks for watching 👍
I don't know what kind of microphone you used, sound only comes from the left earphone and it feels very annoying.
Apologies… My audio isn’t the best at the moment.. I’m learning as I go along.. Hopefully it will improve 😄👍
Plastic is fantastic. 😮
😄 Twas a nice bike.. Enjoyed riding it .. Well mannered even with the huge rear tyre..Ally frame as well..Needed the stock mufflers binning and a set of supertrapps fitting to cure the right hand scrapes…Job done… Something a little different I reckon…..Chinese are getting better and better with their bikes… 👍ATB
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But we had FS1Es & RDs & XLs & APs & DTs and no I don't mean from drinking too much. There were some great little bikes, of their time sure but great bikes nonetheless. Not sure how many of these they'll sell I know nothing about big cruisers but there are some really good bikes starting to come out of China for sure...
There’s some nice little Chinese bikes with great styling now being produced .. They’ve upped their game as did the Japanese in the 70s….I thought the the 1002V was a really nice bike…Thank you for taking the time to watch 👍
Nice bike and a lot of machine for under £10K, that exhaust needs sorting, perhaps it needs jacking up for your weight. You shouldn't be worrying about turning right.
😄.. Yes, I didn’t mess around with the rear shock settings.. That may well of sorted the issue out 👍
Two things in life I’ll never have, a Chinesium car and a Chinesium motorbike. I’d rather walk than buy either one. Japanese quality for me!
Everything in you house has components from China lol better get rid of everything mate
😄..Everyone to their own I guess..People said that about the Japanese bikes in the 60’s…THe Chinesium is getting a lot better Colin…😄👍
With the advent of increasing complexity of motorcycles due to ecological mandates, can you be sure that any new bike is free of Chinese parts? Sureley the source lines are blurred nowadays.
Even well known high end cars & motorcycles , either contain components ,full engines manufactured in China or even the whole vehicle manufactured in China these days . The Chinese have all the latest tech & production methods & can produce to any price point or quality required by the customer . You are probably riding or driving a vehicle containing Chinese manufactured parts . I own a Japanese branded Chinese built Suzuki ,& it’s built to the same standard as Japanese built Suzukis & just as 100% reliable as any other Honda or Suzuki I owned in over 50 years of motorcycling on road .
Great review, i know tfts give a lot of information but i don't think they suit this kind of bike.
Whatever it may look like it sounds like a small capacity scooter
You need to watch the whole vid.. Then your hear it’s thunderous sound..It’s called the Gaokin Thore in China..👍
That looks and sounds like it’s worth max 5k No way it competes with a Harley
Hi Dave.. I’m comparing it to Harley’s water cooled stuff.. That revolution max thing they brought out had hardly any rear suspension travel at all! Now if your talking Big Twins then I totally agree with you …They’re in a different league.. The MBP is a well put together bike with good quality components .. J-Juan brakes(Brembo) Bosch electronics and so on..I don’t know what you ride but maybe see if you can grab a few hours on one .. It might surprise you..( but not if you ride a Big Twin) 😄 ATB👍
I don't want it.
ben olsaydim honda chopper alirdim...
That would be a good choice.. Honda quality guaranteed 🙂👍
its kinda like a the motorcycle version of COVID 19 ,man made to destroy the western biking industry and put British bike manufactures out of business and only 9000 pounds
😄😆.. One way of looking at it…You may have a point..😄👍
china will lead in bikes in the not so distant future...and cheaper
Re-run of the Japanese bike invasion of the 60s 👍
yes they will be world leaders .look how fast india has taken a foothold with very good bikes at well below jap prices@@DickieMintCycles
Lacks torque, relies on revs, which is a mistake on a cruiser.
Agreed... I think that realistically you need to test these bikes for a week to get a proper idea of them.. I need to get my backside on one of those nightster things to see how it compares..👍
Get rid of the very bad looking licence plate bracket and extend the rear fender and mount the tail lamp and plate to that. The problem is no mater how you switch things up it will always look like a Chinese made want-to-be Harley.
The Chinese engineers must think that you steer around corners with the bike totally upright instead of leaning..
Hi James..Yep, a lot of new bikes are running this rear plate set up.. Gets them through all the latest legislation.. Could of stuck it on the side I guess..As for a Harley wannabe ,to my mind the last proper Harley’s finished production 1999.. We’re talking engines …I’m a traditionalist 😄😄👍
Chinese motorcycle, built by the finest slaves.
Strange world we live in…The west relies on China .. China relies on the West .. Global trade $$$..👍
Can't bank it over on right hand bends ! Can't be ridden properly then, what's the point in having a bike you can't ride properly, it's more or less another Chinese ripoff copy, made cheaply and sold at a ridiculously high price ! Sounds cheap too, yes I always look for negatives, it's the only way to not be easily impressed with crap, sod looks. Not having a go just an honest up front comment.
My Harley’s don’t go round bends either 😄.. Go have a look at one or have a ride on one.. I think you maybe surprised 😄👍
My old Yamaha V Star 1100 used to touch down on bends very easily.
My softail slim handles nicely but the ground clearance is ‘limited’ 😂
There's a huge difference between the grinding the underside of sprung footboards and pegs which doesn't affect handling and the looks of the bike too much and hitting the ground with a fixed item like the exhaust which will be both dangerous and damaging. As OP said, what's the point of this bike ( unless you live in a world without corners )
Comme Crap!
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Way to much plastic
😄 Funnily enough Pete I checked all that and guess what.. Metal guards front and rear metal tank and even the side trims on the frame were aluminium..Guards weren’t thin crap either.. 👍
@@DickieMintCycles fair enough i does look like plastic just a observation
Harley Sucks!!!
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