That gif of the engine for the R1 was a flat plane crank not a cross plane. Cross plane is named that cos the side profile of the crankshaft looks like a cross. Each bearing is 90 degrees from each other.
The Indian FTR has 123PS which is 1PS more than the Challenger, so that’s the most powerful Indian in terms of horsepower. And Harley’s 135 crate engine puts out 160hp to the wheels as opposed to Pan Am’s 152 crank hp.
Good spot re FTR.. But the SE Crate 131 is not sold new off the floor only as a kit and exc ‘dealer specials’ which are already registered + doesn’t make 160 rwhp without major cams, out of the box more like 135-140. Results seem to vary a lot.
@@78Outlaw yeah that 135 is pushing 160whp with race cams and race tune not Harley’s SE High lift cams and Pro Street Tuner because they still comply with the EPA regulations and the power is neutered down to 130whp.
You can always find ways to lower seat heights, without making too many compromises. Different cuts on the seats, and suspension changes. Yes, you'll take away the upper limits of handling, but you'll never really notice it - if you don't take it too far.
Thx Guys , much appreciated feedback, I have also a shorter rider in the household 😉 Bike OEMs tend to forget the shorter riders class, lighter bikes without being low cruisers .
H2R is like every bikers dream bike, I wish I could just see that bike once... The sound that H2 and H2R makes, is enough to put a smile on every biker's face 💚😊
Kawasaki with the H2R is the epitome of motorcycling madness. Hats off to team green for always staying true, original and pushing the boundaries beyond anyone's imagination! Team Green lovers! 😎🤘
i'm good with around 100hp more than that i can't do I'm too scared. Back in the day no problem now approaching 60 id rather have low end torque for around city driving.
I got mine last year, a 2021 model...so far so good, few bits caused problems i.e fuel cap latch plastic piece broke, had to change to quick release...other than that, a wiring harness recall that was sorted by the dealer. I'm on 8,500km now and so far holding out well. This bike is a keeper to me, I've changed bikes like within 3-6 months in the past, I'm not selling this until I'm broke. lol
You will not regret purchasing the KTM SDR. Brilliant bike. She is the Queen of the Road. Lovely to ride from around town and blasting around on a track day. Great fun.
Based on all the reviews of the H2, I'm staying FAR away! Scary! I've seen them used, in excellent condition, and with fairly low miles for around $13k! Still - too much power for me. Of that list, I'll just say that the one I'm most comfortable on, that's between 150-175hp is all I want. I'm totally loving my z900rs cafe, but I'm already craving more power. Maybe I'll tune it, and do intake /exhaust and call it a day for that bike. And then go the other direction and snap up a used Royal Enfield for little romps around town.
The only bike that has consistently either been at or above the manufacturers claims is the RSV4. The new 23V4R with full Akra only put down ~197HP on 3 different bikes locally. The 19-20V4R is exactly the same, meanwhile same dyno Full Akra 21-23RSV4F have put down 209HP. Even the V4SP2 only with full Akra only put down 206HP same dyno.
Why do you mention royal Enfield in every video? always mentioning the super meteor which is a pretty irrelevant bike just sounds like an ad you forgot to notify us about
Robert, your videos are very professional and the content is great, But a little criteak, take a breath boy for christ sake, it's difficult to process what you said because before you can your are on to the next subject, put in a few pauses between content, Otherwise is just one long monologue. Take your time, it's like being at a car auction 😂
Can anyone explain why more power is "better"--better for dying? Better for losing your licence? I am not clear of the point of these bikes unless you are at a track? For 1 up anything over 50hp is a waste of fuel and heat. Most of the world uses around 10hp-like the vast majority of bikes without any problems. I guess if your rich and or have access to a track these are fine.
Youre numbers are only the Marketing "bla bla" from the manufactors...the h2r beside (not street legal) the most powerful bike yet is the aprilia rsv4 1100 with 220 ps at the crank...measured in german magazin "motorrad" ...an cbr rr for example, had on the dyno from "motorrad" 213 ps...not the from honda claimed 217 !
Panigale V4R = 240 HP @ 15,500 RPM H2R = 322 HP @ 14,000 RPM Ducati is a screaming engine, but supercharger sound is additional on the Kawasaki, some like it, .... I don't
Producing this type of content does nothing for for your credibility as a motorcycle journalist; is it just to swell the coffers, or to cater to the demands of your sponsers (effectively the same thing).
H2R doesn't belong on this list, its the only one that's not street legal and isn't incumbered by emission standards. Someone did not do their homework properly, shame
How does it matter if it’s not street legal, people who buy superbikes will modify the exhaust system anyways which is illegal. H2R is the undisputed king out of the box no matter how much you dislike it. There are also many H2R owners who take their bike on the public road. Imkay, ZS Motovlogs and many more TH-camrs own H2R and take it to the streets
@@petrolhead.corner There is a doctor in South Africa that has an h2r and made it road legal. I think it's quite amusing how a (surgeon) rides an insanely powerful bike.😂
@@petrolhead.corner adding an exhaust to a motorcycle is not illegal lmao! And its more than just an exhaust, you think they just added an exhaust to the H2 and somehow that became the H2R with about 100 more horsepower!? You need to do your homework as well
@@Sierrablue03 any motorcycle with a modified exhaust won’t follow the emissions standards and noise regulations which is illegal. And when did I say modifying an H2 exhaust gives 100hp more? Looks like someone needs to work on their communication and interpretation skills
@@petrolhead.corner modify an exhaust on a bike and you can still ride it on the street, no? H2R you cant, therefore it doesn't belong on this list. Funny you bring up interpretation skills...what part of NOT road legal at all...ONLY TRACK can you not interpret?
It's the Aprilia RSV4 Factory limited in Speed White. After test riding it just had to get it.
That gif of the engine for the R1 was a flat plane crank not a cross plane. Cross plane is named that cos the side profile of the crankshaft looks like a cross. Each bearing is 90 degrees from each other.
The Indian FTR has 123PS which is 1PS more than the Challenger, so that’s the most powerful Indian in terms of horsepower. And Harley’s 135 crate engine puts out 160hp to the wheels as opposed to Pan Am’s 152 crank hp.
Good spot re FTR.. But the SE Crate 131 is not sold new off the floor only as a kit and exc ‘dealer specials’ which are already registered + doesn’t make 160 rwhp without major cams, out of the box more like 135-140. Results seem to vary a lot.
Video dedicated for 2023 model year 🧐
@@78Outlaw yeah that 135 is pushing 160whp with race cams and race tune not Harley’s SE High lift cams and Pro Street Tuner because they still comply with the EPA regulations and the power is neutered down to 130whp.
Also Suzuki gsxr1000 makes more than the busa
@@jeffd694I think it was not included because the 200PS/197hp GSXR1000 has been discontinued in most countries and the Busa is still current.
Great video Robert. Suggestion, it would be cool to see a review for short riders, what are best choices by seat height for 2022/2023 models.
Comon man,don't let your height be a limit for witch bike you wanne ride...
You can always find ways to lower seat heights, without making too many compromises. Different cuts on the seats, and suspension changes. Yes, you'll take away the upper limits of handling, but you'll never really notice it - if you don't take it too far.
Thx Guys , much appreciated feedback, I have also a shorter rider in the household 😉 Bike OEMs tend to forget the shorter riders class, lighter bikes without being low cruisers .
The Aprilia, all day every day
Nice one, Rob.
Me being a bit of a lazy old dinosaur, I'd like to see a similar video for maximum torque for each brand. :)
Better yet, a torque-to-weight list. :)
@@posteroonie U mean a KTM list ^^
Isn't the 2023 Suzuki GSX-R @ 199 HP? Also please add sound clips when mentioning a bikes exhaust note! Thanks for the video, love your content!
That bike is discontinued in European and Asian countries
@@petrolhead.corner Yeah I figured since it doesnt get imported into Norway, where I live. I wonder why.
@@k1mura92 it doesn’t comply with the current emission rules and Suzuki hasn’t updated the engine to pass the emissions tests in these countries
Interesting, maybe horsepower to weight comparison might be more enlightening and provide a few surprises. 🤔
This video is for all those with small Willys that like to wank off over power figures without any real understanding or enthusiasm for motorcycling
In my garage -- V4R, H2, R90 cafe racer.
H2R is like every bikers dream bike, I wish I could just see that bike once... The sound that H2 and H2R makes, is enough to put a smile on every biker's face 💚😊
For pure sound, I'd take a 1990s CBR-250RR for that 20000rpm redline over a H2R
Not even close a dream. I would choose the Honda CBR1000-RR Fireblade from the video, or the 2023 KTM RC8 out of it as a dream bike.
@@Adrianrrrrr🤝
Mmm mine is the S1000 RR or an old RSV Mille. Dont really like the look of the H2. It is a beast though.
Please make a video on v4r vs m1000rr it will a great favour
woulb be nice to have this exact list but on a budget, 10k or less maybe,
not crazy hp numbers, but motorcycles most people can actually afford
The Aprilia and the MV Agusta are so beautiful. Yet if you arrive with a Ducati anywhere you are the Boss.
as always a very professional comparison, congrat !!!🥰
Can you do a review on the Ducati supersport 950s?
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Royal enfield lover🧡
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Proud owner of Bullet 500 🖤
that’s why motorcycles are great, there’s always a model that will make “everyone” happy.
cheers !
Royal enfield afforder
Kawasaki H2R is my dream bike!
Kawasaki with the H2R is the epitome of motorcycling madness. Hats off to team green for always staying true, original and pushing the boundaries beyond anyone's imagination! Team Green lovers! 😎🤘
They are going Hybrid now
@@fqeagles21 Yeah another original from Kawasaki. Hydrogen power! 🤘
@@FullThrottleCA still not as awesome
I’ll take the MV Augusta followed by the BMW S1000 RR followed by the Ducati Panigale. Anyone of those would see me as road kill in no time 😂🤣
i'm good with around 100hp more than that i can't do I'm too scared. Back in the day no problem now approaching 60 id rather have low end torque for around city driving.
Let me have a garage first then I will think 😂
I would Absolutely love the MV Agusta in my garage😊
Price per BHP, you need to do something with this concept Bob!
not the Rocket for Triumph?
Thanks for the video🤝
Nice bike ❤
Want MG V100 ❤🏍️🔥
That H2R !!!😍😍😍
RSV4 is my choice!
I can't wait to get a KTM 1290 Super Duke R next year (hopefully) :)
I got mine last year, a 2021 model...so far so good, few bits caused problems i.e fuel cap latch plastic piece broke, had to change to quick release...other than that, a wiring harness recall that was sorted by the dealer. I'm on 8,500km now and so far holding out well. This bike is a keeper to me, I've changed bikes like within 3-6 months in the past, I'm not selling this until I'm broke. lol
@@luckyleo88 Nice thanks for the info. When I have one I’ll keep an eye on those.
You will not regret purchasing the KTM SDR. Brilliant bike. She is the Queen of the Road. Lovely to ride from around town and blasting around on a track day. Great fun.
Aprilia for the money ❤
Hayabusa is on my wish list for a long time :)
How about a list of the most *comfortable* bikes?
Too subjective
Royal Enfield Continental GT650
RSV4 all the way.
Aprillia!
Based on all the reviews of the H2, I'm staying FAR away! Scary! I've seen them used, in excellent condition, and with fairly low miles for around $13k! Still - too much power for me.
Of that list, I'll just say that the one I'm most comfortable on, that's between 150-175hp is all I want.
I'm totally loving my z900rs cafe, but I'm already craving more power. Maybe I'll tune it, and do intake
/exhaust and call it a day for that bike.
And then go the other direction and snap up a used Royal Enfield for little romps around town.
why dont honda go for V4 engine like their motogp bike
Because it’s not paying of in MotoGP
Should have been dynoed. Claimed vs real HP is always different and only rear wheel HP matters.
4:20 suzuki gsxr1000 has 202 hp
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GSX-R1000 is no longer sold in the UK :(
Z H2 is enough for me!
With 1 point left on my licence it’d have to be the Enfield otherwise Aprilia all the way
R1 ❤
Royal Enfield supermeteor and gt650 😍😍
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Why include non road-legal H2R?
Read the title.
Energica eva rebelle rs 🤔🤔🤔
Interesting how we tend to conflate “power” with performance.
Well apart the H2 the other positions were pretty good in performance I mean
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I'll take the m1000rr please 😅❤
Ducatis claimed figures are questionable.. whenever tested they don't seem to make thier claimed figures..
The only bike that has consistently either been at or above the manufacturers claims is the RSV4. The new 23V4R with full Akra only put down ~197HP on 3 different bikes locally. The 19-20V4R is exactly the same, meanwhile same dyno Full Akra 21-23RSV4F have put down 209HP. Even the V4SP2 only with full Akra only put down 206HP same dyno.
Go the Kawasaki 👍
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Deciding on my first bike. This narrows things down. Living in North America does away with the L nonsense.
rusi lover❤
I bought the 2023 BMW M1000RR Competition
BMW or H2 for me :D
Honda fireblade triple R
Why do you mention royal Enfield in every video? always mentioning the super meteor which is a pretty irrelevant bike just sounds like an ad you forgot to notify us about
Robert, your videos are very professional and the content is great, But a little criteak, take a breath boy for christ sake, it's difficult to process what you said because before you can your are on to the next subject, put in a few pauses between content, Otherwise is just one long monologue. Take your time, it's like being at a car auction 😂
It’s wondering to see speed triple rr is more powerful than rocket 3 😅
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From my understanding the Rocket 3 is massively limited from the factory. ECU flashes unlock an absurd amount of additional power.
just waiting which bike can break the record of Kawasaki H2R 0 - 400 in 26 seconds😅
BMW M1000RR
Aprilia
Super Duke
Can anyone explain why more power is "better"--better for dying? Better for losing your licence? I am not clear of the point of these bikes unless you are at a track?
For 1 up anything over 50hp is a waste of fuel and heat.
Most of the world uses around 10hp-like the vast majority of bikes without any problems.
I guess if your rich and or have access to a track these are fine.
Where are you from?
@@fqeagles21 Canada-live in Asia-doesnt matter where now speed limits make power like this silly--these bikes are meant to make a heap of money
@@drd3816 50 hp are too few 200 are too much (100 to 150 sweet spot)
@@fqeagles21 I have tried it...i will kill myself haha--too much power
Well I’m glad to have my RE Conti GT650 got into this list 🤘🏻
Youre numbers are only the Marketing "bla bla" from the manufactors...the h2r beside (not street legal) the most powerful bike yet is the aprilia rsv4 1100 with 220 ps at the crank...measured in german magazin "motorrad" ...an cbr rr for example, had on the dyno from "motorrad" 213 ps...not the from honda claimed 217 !
H2R
Im expecting my BMW 1000RR with M package very soon.
Speed Triple RS
The twinkle in this old man’s eye.
Indian…? FTR?
120hp to the 122 of the Challenger/Pursuit
The H2 is suoercharged and should not be includrd in my opinion.
This is all about horse power? That’s not so important when choosing a bike.
Panigale V4R = 240 HP @ 15,500 RPM
H2R = 322 HP @ 14,000 RPM
Ducati is a screaming engine, but supercharger sound is additional on the Kawasaki, some like it, .... I don't
KTM SDR BABY. She is the queen of the road😎
Producing this type of content does nothing for for your credibility as a motorcycle journalist; is it just to swell the coffers, or to cater to the demands of your sponsers (effectively the same thing).
only busa, other bikes not fucked up
H2R doesn't belong on this list, its the only one that's not street legal and isn't incumbered by emission standards. Someone did not do their homework properly, shame
How does it matter if it’s not street legal, people who buy superbikes will modify the exhaust system anyways which is illegal. H2R is the undisputed king out of the box no matter how much you dislike it. There are also many H2R owners who take their bike on the public road. Imkay, ZS Motovlogs and many more TH-camrs own H2R and take it to the streets
@@petrolhead.corner There is a doctor in South Africa that has an h2r and made it road legal. I think it's quite amusing how a (surgeon) rides an insanely powerful bike.😂
@@petrolhead.corner adding an exhaust to a motorcycle is not illegal lmao! And its more than just an exhaust, you think they just added an exhaust to the H2 and somehow that became the H2R with about 100 more horsepower!? You need to do your homework as well
@@Sierrablue03 any motorcycle with a modified exhaust won’t follow the emissions standards and noise regulations which is illegal. And when did I say modifying an H2 exhaust gives 100hp more? Looks like someone needs to work on their communication and interpretation skills
@@petrolhead.corner modify an exhaust on a bike and you can still ride it on the street, no? H2R you cant, therefore it doesn't belong on this list. Funny you bring up interpretation skills...what part of NOT road legal at all...ONLY TRACK can you not interpret?
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All completely useless here in Australia 🙄
Why so?
@@cruze86 Either to gutless to safely get past a road train or to powerful to stay under the 100kph cap while passing said road train.
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The H2 is not street legal.
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