"I'd rather go to hell than forgive him!" | A real story (Met. Pavlos)
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- On forgiveness
In this video recording, Metropolitan Pavlos of Sisanion and Siatista (+2019) tells us a real story of an old woman who confessed to him and preferred rather to go to hell than to forgive her neighbor. The metropolitan then used a harsh method, which ultimately proved successful.
Video source: Άγιος Δημήτριος Ορθόδοξη Παρουσία ( • Δωρησαί μοι του οράν τ... )
April 19, 2016, Church of St. Demetrios, Vironas, Greece
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How do we pray for others who are not Christian? Or we don't know what they are, because its professional relationship, but they cause us problems.
Which prayers do you reccomend.
Hard stuff, forgiveness. It's not easy being nice to someone who's treated you badly. Then again... I'VE treated people badly. Forgive, O Lord, those that hate us, and those that love us. ☦
Also, "dumber than the chicken themselves" is pure gold!
I wish i can forgive myself
our level of forgiveness can reach very holy levels, just imagine christ on the cross and his last words, "father please forgive them, because they dont know what they are doing"
he showed us a pure state of forgiveness
Such a nice post 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Just a small edit ( hopefully helpful ) .
FATHER Forgive them..... are really the 1st of his Seven last Words on the Cross :
1) FATHER forgive them..... ( following the nailing )
2) This day thought shalt be with me in Paradise ( to the Repentant thief ).
3) I thirst
4) My GOD, My GOD..,( Eloi, Eloi lama Sabaktani )
5) Woman behold thy son ( St John) and son behold thy Mother
6) It is accomplished
7) FATHER into Your Hands I commend my SPIRIT.
Stay ever loved, blessed and forgiven by our LORD, SAVIOUR and Eternal JUDGE, JESUS. Amen. 🌹🌹🌹🌹
A wise man I knew once told me, “if you are not ready to forgive, tell the Lord ‘please give me the desire to want to forgive.’ And if that even is tough say ‘Lord grant me the desire to want to want to forgive.”
Amen!
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL😍✨❤😍✨😍✨❤
Амин
Amin!
However...... there is ONE exception God HIMSELF will NEVER forgive!..... and that is the sexual abuse and murder of a little defenseless child!!!
In this case the man or the woman is doomed!!!!
forgiveness is hard hell is harder AMEN to us all
Forgiveness is necessary.
Hell is not good. 🙏🏻💕✝️
Wow, I wish I had a church leader like this man.
I'm not Orthodox Christian , but I can see , Cristal clear , when the Light of The Holy Spirit is talking through this holy priest.
today i had a wish. that i forgive everybody no matter what. than i had a vision of an angel approaching, beautiful and pure like a baroque angel is painted.
Oh my that's lovely❣️ May we all be so favored to be obedient and see beautiful Holy Angels 🙏✝️❤️
Thanks be to Jesus Christ!
Baroque
@@Mary_QQQ okay, i can correct that
Make that wish come true and forgive everybody unconditionally and ask others to forgive you 🙏.
I'm Roman Catholic. JESUS Has a Plan for me in bringing this Channel to my feed since yesterday.
The other homily was much longer and I couldn't pause till the finish. So effective was it. 👌👌
Right now, this came up, right after my Rosary, which I've downloaded on the phone.
I've subbed, liked and hit the notifications🔔.
Very significantly, forgiveness is still new to me. Am a work in progress on this issue.
WAOW... was the Elder's message And the awesome Comments just cut out for souls like me !!!! No second take on that.
Now this Channel shall be on my daily Menu.
Blessings🙏 be upon you for helping us on The Straight and Narrow Way.
God bless!
One time a Saint was exorcising a demon from a possessed person and was questioning the demon if there is anything that he hates so much. The demon replied "to ask forgiveness or to forgive". The priest said it correctly, "he did not expel the old woman but almost a demon". God is Love and unforgiveness is like the total opposite of Love. "14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." Matthew 6:14-15
Forgiveness is hard, especially when one is not ready to forgive. In my own experience, I had to ask God to help me forgive someone who had wronged me so painfully, I wanted to die.
I had to forgive her, but it was hard to do when I was just going through the motions. So I asked God to help and I realized I had to forgive her more than once. I had to do it over and over until one day, I meant it.
Thank you for an important message, Father.
So true, dear sister! Thank you for sharing.
God bless you!
Do you wish to share what she did to you, since you were so angry at her?
@@damienasmodeus928 it's not appropriate to encourage someone to have a remembrance of wrongs done to them.
@@MJS2376 lolz, she started to talk about it first. I only asked about specifics.
“If a man insults me, kills my father, my mother, my brother, and then gouges out my eye, as a Christian it is my duty to forgive him. We who are pious Christians ought to love our enemies and forgive them. We ought to offer them food and drink, and entreat God for their souls. And then we should say: ‘My God, I beseech Thee to forgive me, as I have forgiven my enemies.’”
St. Kosmas Aitolos
Very good
We must ask God for the grace to forgive
I used to be like this Grandma. I used to hate so passionately that I felt it was God's error to have presented me with such people. I did not care what came of this hatred as I blamed God for my existence. It brought me to Hell. I have destroyed people in my life. Emotionally and spiritually. More than anything I hope they have been brought back to heaven by God and healed. I didn't truly know what I was doing, I was blinded by my own pain and it mixed with hatred. Christ came into my heart one day and sparked it, and lighted my being with his love. I can see that the devil gets a hold of people through their unresolved pain and traumatic memories/experiences. I'm blessed with Christ's grip which is eternally more powerful. I don't see people anymore I just see emanations of God. My family. My home in my heart. Thank you for saving my life, Christ. I only wish to be a servant of Love.
Heartfelt Thanks 🌹🙏🌹🙏 for your share.
I used to be like you were and in my mind, far worse.
I'd pacify myself in saying and wishing they'd have to pay.
Sadly, many of them met with misfotunes and I'd find "satisfaction" in that, rather than sympathy. ( Can anything be worse ?? ) 😈👹😈👹
So grateful to JESUS and Mama MARY for Rescuing me from my own self, because Satan canNot mislead us Unless we Allow him to.
Love and respect 🙏🙏🙏🙏
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☦️God bless you all and thank you for those beautiful videos 💜
All glory be to God!
One day I was praying. All of a sudden I was deep in meditation & I saw my sins as God sees my sins. My heart was black as black could be. I was headed straight to hell... by my own choices...I saw clearly...& I had thought I was just fine! I changed my ways. I attend mass daily now & I pray 4 decades of the rosary every day. I attend confession. Read only spiritual literature. Attend to many other devotions. I totally changed my ways. I beg God to fill my heart with his perfect love every day. My life had changed. And I don't need to take psych meds anymore either! Bonus! I saw i had to forgive everyone! Totally! I don't want to go to hell!
Amen!
Amen!
Things are so bad right now, billions are headed to hell. It's Worse Than You Think (full documentary):th-cam.com/video/xrzOCkcD-IM/w-d-xo.html Please warn as many as you can, the mark is already here.
I have a niehbor who keeps attacking my building. He has accused that the building was illegally built. However records show from 1903 that in fact the way it currently sits is correct. I have time and time again prayed that he would come to his sences but had yet to do so. He has put cameras around the property and provokes me to be violent with him. However I rebuke him. I pray that God handles these things.
He sounds very stubborn. Have you drawn his attention to the records? I pray with you that God will resolve this in such a manner that will glorify His name and bring this man to his knees before God in repentence and faith because his salvation is the most important thing. The solution to your conflict will be a happy side effect. May God bless you. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and to the ages of ages. Amen.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 When he sent me legal documents I replied with all the information. His condemnation of me and the building is unfounded for both of us weren't even born when these buildings were constructed. I've sent him notice to stop. I've known him forever our families were friends but something happened to his family after his parent's (who were the original owners of the building) died. He doesn't communicate with his other siblings because of a property dispute regarding the inheritance. I have chosen to stay away from him. For his action make me very upset. It takes two to fight and I don't want any part of it. Thats when I pray for my own salvation and I put it in Gods hands.
@@marcolekas5304 He sounds disturbed. I pray some kind of resolution occurs. You're being wise not to fuel the fire.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 It doesn't matter if you ignore him. A criminal mind will degenerate from worse to worser. Your lack of reaction will make them think you are weak and afraid.
You can pray to st. John of Shanghai and San Francisco, very powerful saint. Read about his life and witnesses of his help and grow in hope, God help you.
We really miss the teachings of father Pavlos.
Sometimes after efforts of humble prayer, recognising my own faults, I get certain feelings about the weakness and fragility of others with whom I had been in dispute or state of quarrel before. The feelings moved me to compassion, but it's hard when being burdened with problems of your own you find having to bear the burden of those close to you, on top of it all.
Lord have mercy on us and give us a lenient heart so we forgive others like how you forgive us.
Beautiful story. You can kill someone with kindness. Sometimes you have to get angry to put someone on the right path.
I'm not Orthodox but this man speaks truth.
Thank you Father for sharing .Come,Lord Jesus, Maranatha, Amen! 🔥🙏💚🏴
To forgive is to show godly attributes.
Amen!
Δόξα τω θεώ,αμην+
Doamne ajută!
Thank you father, it is a great lesson. We must forgive others as much as we want God to forgive us
If only that old lady had read the words of our Savior from his Sermon on the Mount.
_Therefore if you present your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and first go be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your gift._ Matthew 5:23,24
Love the story
Yes true life
Amin.sarut dreapta Sfintia Voastra Parinte! Iertati si binecuvantati.multumim frumos.Doamne Ajută! Mantuire.bucurii sfinte si sanatate!
Thank God we still have power over demons!
As one Christian wrote somewhere: "The hardest thing is forgiving someone that is unrepently evil."
I remember how pure I was when I was 12 I used to pray for everyone to be forgiven no matter what they did and for them to be better person.
Remember Thy First Love (Revelation 2:4-5)
God forgives His followers provided that we confess our mistakes and repent from them. We are to forgive like He does: we cannot forgive unless the offender offers his apologies, like we do to Him. Forgiveness is not cheap and is a two-way street.
Thank you for all.
May you be well.
That was an amazing talk. Thank you for posting it 💙🙏💙🙏💙🙏
Beautifull story! Thanks for sharing!
Love thy neighbor as thy Self 🙏
This reminded of saint Titus of the monastery of the Kiev caves where the saint had a feud with another monk Evagrios his name was and when the saint fell ill he asked for forgiveness from Evagrios he refused he said he would rather go to hell and after Evagrios said those words he died and the saint recovered. Everyone was scares and tried to be forgiving
Who died saint or Evagrios?
@@Lasharella Evagrios died after he said he would rather go to hell than forgive the saint and the saint said he saw an angel hit Evagrios with a spear and the same angel healed and lifted the saint from his bed. A very powerful example of refusing to forgive someone may Christ give us the gift of forgiveness
@@arandomdreamer9853 does forgiving means telling them actually forgive me if I have hurt you anyway or just forgiving them in your heart? I have 2 people I had little argument and haven’t spoken since, I did forgive them in my heart but haven’t met them to tell them in person thinking calling them
@@Lasharella Im afraid i cant answer your question friend maybe its for the best if you havent spoken to them just pray for them like the saints Stephan the first martyr saint Silouan of athos and starets Zosima of Siberia
@@Lasharella I think you should ask this question to someone else who can answer you what to do
I am Maronire Catholic and Love this !!!!! . I AM PRETTY SURE CHRIST WILL RECONCILIATE US UNDER ONE ROOF . THE TRUE ONE CHURCH .
Amen!
Metropolitan Paul wasn't an ecumenist. No Orthodox Christian is. The Orthodox Church is the only way to salvation, no heresy saves. This is the opinion of all Orthodox saints, old and new (from Saint Cyprian of Carthage to Saint Porphyrios). Come to the One Church of the Lord Jesus Christ, (for He only has One Body) accept the true faith, and you too shall be saved. God bless you and enlighten your heart☦
I would rather forgive, than suffer the consequences of unforgiveness for eternity. Jesus suffered more than anyone. I am forever in his debit. I am nothing without him.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have Mercy upon us, sinners.
Also sant Nectarios of aigina said that God made him a saint because he was forgiving
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Thank you Lord for giving us the opportunity to share your Word and wisdom here. What a wonderful loving God we worship! 🙏
Send this guy here to NYC- we need a lot of help here in the Catholic Church in the United States 🇺🇸 The priest needs to be more honest in and outside the confessional.
Would also like to hear the whole sermon here.
Fantastic! 🛐 God bless you and this channel!
He has reposed in the Lord two years ago i think
In deed.. Metropolitan of Sisani and Siatist Pavlos Ioannou has passed to Heaven on Jan 2019! But this is not the case ...
There are -Thanks Cod & Saint Efraim of Arizona - about 20 GR-Orthodox Monasteries in North America ...just a step away from U.. ! So U are blessed !
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Peace!
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Beautiful language
Amen
Haleluya to the havens about you.. may it restore as a haleluya onto the lord of living havens.. Amen.
Thank you
Beautiful.
Forgiveness is more than a simple act of faith and good will. It's to take the transgressions that are done to you and respond with blessings. It's to break the chain of sin and plant love instead of spreading the hate that was inflicted to you.
Very good
So I follow this deliverance ministry (if you haven't heard of Derek Prince, a real soldier of Christ that man!). Anyway, this brother brother Noah Hines taught that unrepentance and unforgiveness are two of the biggest things that prevent demons from loosening their hooks completely. He said the best thing to do apart from renouncing it in prayer is to picture all the resentment, pain and animosity you have inside and imagine taking it up and placing it before the LORD Jesus Christ's feet. Then ask him to take it and he will be faithful. This has worked for me.
He had a lot of really good things to say and plenty of people can take something from what he had to say but he has an amazing beard
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Loved this. Reminds me of being confessed by traditional Latin priests, they actually dialogue with you. Not the Novus Ordo where they will just listen and then grant you absolution. Sometimes you need to be given a slight ticking off, or made to see the “error of your ways”. Love this E. Orthodox priest.
Amen brothers
Amen!
Beautiful story :)
If I cannot forgive my neighbour, how can I ever ask God to forgive me .
Sometimes "hell " is better. There are no one left to forgive / A person just fired mr and said that I am no one / 8 years passed / I don't know where is he
This is absolutely true. Today there are loads of people that would rather enter the gloominess of hell then to forgive someone for something stupid. Some even say I do not want to go to heaven because my enemy is there or a repentant murderer or whatever. God is hated because he is Perfect love and nobody has perfect love but him.
You have to forgive or God will not forgive you because we are all sinners who have hurt God, our Savior our Messiah who paid the price for our sins out of pure love. Forgive. Repent. And love our One and Only, our beautiful God of all good, love and truth. Our light our everything ✝️
We do things deserving of destruction daily and yet God does not deal thus with us... Who then, am I that I would withhold mercy and forgiveness of another. Life is too short. I will not escape the hand of the ALMIGHTY, none of us will and we will ALL stand before the judgment seat of Christ, therefore it is meet that I get my little rear end in line with His will and His ways. Better to live in obedience with a clear conscience than to live lawlessly as if I am my own boss...I am not. There is One inside me who pokes me when I do wrong and I'm grateful that God has not utterly left me to my own devices, nor has He cast me away
My mother at about age 70 had a horrible fight with my Baba(her mother aged 90). When I came home from work to pick up my 5 year old daughter. My mother refused to talk about it or why or what happened. She called my cousin to pick her up NOW or she'd be out on the street!!!??? My mother forbade me to speak to her EVER AGAIN or she would refuse to babysit my daughter EVER! We were financially bereft so her babysitting helped us immensely...so what to do??!! Begged my mom to let me just call Baba a few times, but to no avail. My Baba died soon after and my mother threw up during the entire funeral and REFUSED to watch her be buried. I nursed my mom at home while she was dying of cancer. When our Batushka came to give my mom Holy Unction,, confession etc...I begged him to tell me if she finally forgave my Baba. He said he obviously could not reveal what transpired. I pray that she finally forgave my zBaba. That weighs upon me to thus very day...20 years later. And I beg God's mercy for my not talking to BABA. It was a horrible burden my mother placed on me. I pray that she FINALLY forgave my Baba.
The Lord asks us to forgive...The Lord even prayed for...and forgave those who crucified HIM.
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
GOD's ways are not our ways...Nor or our thought like HIS thoughts
God bless in the Name of Jesus Christ our Savior our Messiah Amen ✝️
Like he was trying to be friends with his neighbours?
I thought i knew love...but am called to love in an other level again... Am called to forgive again and i dont mind forgiving but i mind let them think they have the right to come into my life again... i don't trust them anymore...i don't know yet how i will solve this what answer is the best... but i hope i overcome this
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This reminds me of when St. Nicholas got angry with the heretic Arius
When I was like in middle school I was arguing with my sister and our mother was in a heroin addicted stupor sleeping and my sister swore at me and our mother some how heard my sister swear and chased my sister around the house till my sister jumped on her bed in her bedroom and turned her back to our mother and Maggie jumps on the bed and turns my sister over and bites her on the face now I'm standing in the door way of the room and am just shocked but I'm also frozen and don't know what to do I'm scared to help my sister but just felt powerless and the way we had been treated our whole life I figured we just had it coming for some reason.
What happens when someone doesn’t forgive us ? I had a friend and I said some things I didn’t mean. I tried to apologise but she hasn’t acknowledged my apology. It hurts because I still care as a friend.
We do what we can... we can pray for him, prayer can melt hearts...
Paul warned us about the coming of a church that would require abstinence from foods.(verse 3)
1 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV -
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
That Grandma, I thought for a moment there that he was going to say, it was her memorial, how she loved her chickens! In my village, your chickens come to my place, I thank the Lord for a chicken dinner. I come and ask if you have any salt to share.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16 from the Bible ❤🥰❤
If you do not wish the one who wronged you to go to hell, but hope they might hear the Good News of Salvation and respond, and be forgiven and made right with God through His Son Jesus Christ, and when you realize that you too were once as ignorant in your sin and blindness, as the person who is harming you- this may be close to forgiveness. And when you want to be God-like in that God hardly mentions our sins against us, but acts as if He hardly notices them at all, so we in turn turn a blind eye to the faults of others realizing that they may be struggling privately with their sins as much or maybe even more as I am struggling with mine- these things lead to forgiveness.
New Calendar? Or Normal calendar?
Forgive, but remember that forgiveness doesn’t mean to please people but not to harm them.
Besides, when people clearly show you that they don’t like you, you should not push them to accept you.
“For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.” (Matthew 6:14-15 NIV)
“If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.” (Matthew 10:14 NIV
It is dangerous to insist on people who clearly show that doesn’t know how to love people who are different from them.
Great comment, just what I needed to hear….had to break up with someone because they wouldn’t listen to truth and have been very tempted to contact them because of strong feelings of love
Be merciful to those who doubt; save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear-hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh. (Jude 1:22-23 NIV)
Forgiveness is the one virtue that makes us the most like Christ. Jesus forgave those who crucified Him.
Everyday I pray for the churches to forgive each other for the pain they have caused each other in the past, specially the great schism in the 11th century between the Church of Rome and the Orthodox Church, and unite. Division and discord comes from Satan but unity and love comes from God, our Heavenly Father. Unfortunately there’s an ongoing hostility between them and it has been politicized.
“Father, let them be one as you and I are one”.
Jesus is so hurt bc of our divisions. We don’t even celebrate Easter on the same date...🙏🙏🙏
The Christian crusaders did more harm to Christian Orthodox believers in the east than what impact the Muslim occupation had on the church. Catholicism is an Emperors gambet. God the father and God the son don't approve of Popes who claim they are seated as head of a church
Love our neigbour nd Love other mean's even we are the diferent but we are the one in God' Lord Jessus explan with filipus who is see Lord also see Father wich is he nd Father is one mean's the speaking is Father nd The body is Son as human his majesty Lord Jessus teacing us to call God as Father like King David give advise to his Son king Solomon to Call God as Father' God is for All🙏
It says something about the spiritual status of a woman who would give somebody to silent treatment for 15 years over a chicken coming in her house. I feel sorry for people like this lady... She have never stopped to take the time to actually comprehend hell and what it means to be there for eternity! Truly stupid
Why do i need to confes to a man God sead trust no man i confes only to God.like church it clearly states
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
And when did God apointed in this time any man so we shood confes to him even Papa is a man and apointed by men true prophets trachers can be only chosen ones and when he speaks you will know Power of God speaking true him ..and about hell i see 2 problems 1 for hell you need to have a body in all hell discriptions but when we die we are soul ..but moust important how do you go to hell to be tormented when hell will be trown in lake of fier and no demon will not be any more in hell so by that people wont go to hell but lake of fier . .
And about church
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
So wher are they in church like body is your temple not real temple ...
You must forgive. GOD CANNOT FORGIVE US , WE MUST FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER. DO NOT ALLOW YOUR PRIDE, GET IN A WAY.
PRIDE , HAS REMOVED SATAN, OUT OF HEAVEN. THAT IS SERIOUS SIN. ETERNITY IS VERY LONG.
NOT ONLY FORGIVE, BUT BLESS THEM, FROM YOUR HEART ❤️. THEN YOU ALSO, WILL E BLESSED.
Kabbalah?
Loving ones enemies and forgiving them is too much for me, honestly. As far as personality goes, Islam would be a better fit for me. But Islam is false, only Orthodox Christianity is true and Christ's Church. But that doesn't mean I like it, I wish Christ wouldn't given such commandments.
Truthfully, it really depends on what kind of enemy we are referring to. We definitely have them among ordinary people too, but we find nowadays that we avoid them altogether.
St Augustine said the same thing about chastity when he was younger and he eventually became a saint…it’s impossible without prayer though and prayer is hard
In Christ is our strength. We cannot do it alone. Everything can be possible to hi
that believes
Please love Jesus he was condemned to a horindeous death to save us . and he took if upon himself to suffer more than we will ever comprehend please forgive forgive forgive Jesus loves you more than you know you will have a higher place in Heaven due to your sufferings No I haven't all of the answers but trust in Jesus This life is just like walking through a room. and stock taking ie a grocery store which I know nothing about but it popped into my head as example so can't comment Anyway Jesus does love and forgive but we need to show example starting with Jesus s friends the lowly and down and out They will save us all if we can get them in bord as Jesus loves then so please gather them off the streets and let's wait and see as among the mix God will return
This bishop is a spiritual foe of Greek civilization: it is the will of the gods that half of Greece remains permanently and unredeemingly enraged with the other half. Epic poetry, tragedy, the whole of Greek literature - all of the magnificent creations of the Hellenic mind - would not have been possible without our unique propensity for limitless revenge, incessant strife, and keeping eternal grudges. Greek history, from earliest times to the present, is a perennial pageant of unrelenting wrath and savage fratricide. We are the Hellenes: we put the “Hell” in Hellas... ADDENDUM (edit). Just kidding: wise words, Father Pavlos.
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IS THIS THE TEACHING A MAN OF GOD SHOULD PASS ON PRIEST ???
If you understand it, yes.
He was just as bad in as her.
What a stupid thing to say
It's a shame. If you dont forgive you cannot be forgiven. Elohim, Adonai, The son of Man. CHRIST DIED on the cross, to forgive us of our sins. He died, breath left body. We experience not even a half of that pain he experienced when he died on the cross. We have by his crucifixion, by his strength the might to forgive. It's not easy but neither was it for him. Whenever I feel the anger or sadness of not wanting to forgive, and holding a grudge against that person, I beat myself of course not self affliction to harm but I'd rather release it on my self than others for revenge makes no amends.
In catholic and orthodox heaven there is saints , angels and Jesus..in protestant heaven only Jesus... Oh dear how powerful is human mind and bias.😂😆😄
You are incorrect
It has nothing to do with hell...
When you have faced injustice it is almost impossible to forgive.
Forgiveness let's darkness continue in this world. Let's people get away with the 'unforgivable'.
How do you forgive an expartner from lying to the family court.
When she knows your a perfectly good father.
For stopping you seeing your kids.
Stopping you from taking part in their lives. Seeing them grow up.
How do you forgive the court for acting on lies?
When you have faced injustice you are already in hell. They only way to release you from your anger is to put the injustice right.
It's easy to say the words I forgive.
But sometimes it's very very hard to feel it.
There are people bitter over petty things. For sure.
But that is not always the case...
Wroth belongs to those who have been wronged.
This is how God ensures natural justice in this world is maintained.
It's not easy to forgive, indeed... Only God can help us...
Though I understand where you're coming from but it's still wrong. We must forgive and truly seek God in helping us seek peace which only he can grant. Remember God said that we cannot seek vengeance, the Lord said "vengeance is only mine".
So he started to get angry AGAIN when she reminded him who she was......So he clearly hadn't forgiven her. Always such hypocrisy within the church
@Phil Andrew yeah, you're right, this Man is confusing Righteous Anger from Petty Anger.
'Apparently Metropolitan Pavlos lacks marriage reality experience, Because in everyday reality almost always you deal with the ways of the world that intruded into the family, and seldom with mere personal capriciousness.
Hacker M F Psofa Look, in one way you are right, but in the other way Metropolitan Pavlos of Sisanion and Siatista have done a lot of speeches and written many books about the family, about the relationship between parents and kids, about the love among husband and wife in the marriage and so many others family's issues.. If you seek on YT or on internet, you'll find a lot of them... He was an enlightened man by the Holy spirit and also he had a lot of experience of these issues, thanks to that many marriage couples taht had confessed by him, so he could teach them useful things, even if he never could be a married man.
@@chrismichal8242 Have you had a personal experience with the departed?
If so, relate the event. Because one personal event presents volumes of who is really who. Listen, there is no such thing as being general in words only nor worthwhile authority to the point of going around with police escort always.
Nonetheless, there was one time, a little story telling, where he chastised an envious mother who told her daughter to share information with another uniformed school mate. That, was , well , cool to hear.
@@Thewonderingminds Unfortunately, no i hadn't... I only have listened to his speeches!
But the rest of your comment, it doesn't make sense ! I mean i can't understand what do you want to point on. Are you sure that you wanted to respond to my own comment ?
@@chrismichal8242 Simply, I have lived the man, and all at all circumstantially kept watch. Anyway, it's fair not to understand my writing, because often we misunderstand and mistake even one to one verbal communication too.
Now I hope the new man there at, will be proactive on the deathening issues plaguing that society there, and stop answering with __yup we have this and that situation__ and that's it, nothing more.
If nothing more than __Yup__ should at least disavow the title pimenarxes.
@@Thewonderingminds Ok i think i got the point... I hope so as well!
How can you say that with Christ on the Cross behind you? He asked for forgiveness. Now it's up to you to forgive ot not. We leave this Earth with debts towards others and ourselves. It's up yo God to judge this. You , Ortothix Church, are not perfect. You have enough on your plate!!!
I have forgiven so many for my own sake. To feel my healing while I can.
You didn't even watched this video XDDDD
I can guarantee that man is not a christian.
Why do you think so?
I guarantee you are deluded by Satan