You are a gem to this community. I hope that bug gets fixed soon. Valve should hire you already lol it blows my mind that you do all of this work in addition to your job. I can’t even imagine what you’d do for them/us if they were paying you. Nevertheless, thank you so much for all that you do and that wasn’t me asking you to do more by any means. Very grateful for all of the value you provide 🙏🏻
Thank you so much! 😭🙏 I really enjoy doing all this, and honestly just feel bad that I don't have all the equipment I want to make better content! I'm making sure to not burn out by pacing the rate of content, and not every video will take 20+ hours to benchmark alone 😉
The new swap fix blew my mind, dude. You're amazing, seriously. I don't even own the steam deck yet, but I just love the investigation proccess of your videos.
I'm getting my steamdeck on Monday and your videos are like a bible for easy free performance upgrades. I do overclocking on windows and bios on pcs, but I've never used linux and I love your channel. Definitely will start patroning starting first of the next month.
Thank you so much for watching, and considering supporting me with Patreon! ❤️ I really love helping others with the random knowledge I've acquired, and hearing that even people with traditional technical ability are benefitting from it makes it even better 😄
@@cryobyte33 hey cryo, do you know the command line to check the nvme width if it's x2 or x4? i saw it somewhere on reddit, but I can't find it. i'm trying to find out if my drive is x2 or x4, thanks
@@khmergodhobbies Heya, that would be the lspci command. If you want to see just the width then "sudo lspci -vvs --01:00--.- | grep -i width" (without the quotes) should get you the supported and current width. The supported line starts with LnkCap, the current connection is LnkSta. Hope this helps!
You are just something else bro, I just started this game and am so happy with the performance and now I'm gonna get it to look even better thanks to you, truly you deserve all the support bro, glad I subbed.
Thank you so much! 😭 I really appreciate the kind words, the sub and the view, I hope that you're happy with the results after you apply the settings! ❤️
@cryobyte33 it’s not clear from the video where I’m supposed to add the flag -cpuLoadRebalancing within the system.xml file. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks for the amazing content!
For folks with an OLED Steam Deck, the performance is ever so slightly better than this, even without doing the swap fix. Use the same preset presented by Cryo, but turn FSR to Quality. Then cap your FPS at 45 and 90 hz. It seems to be almost completely locked at 45 with this set up, which is mindboggling considering how good it looks. This is one of the benchmarks developers should be striving for (Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk being two others), and I hope beyond hope more will implement FSR 2.2 or the new FSR 3.1 natively in their games. Looking at you, From Software! I want FSR support in the Elden Ring DLC more than anything now.
Agreed, I'll be submitting a bug report this weekend and hope that they seriously investigate it. In all fairness, they may not have tested with non-default VRAM values and that would have made the issue much harder to diagnose. Thank you for watching!
@@xDARKSHADEx unfortunately, nothing has happened in the meantime, I’m still waiting to hear back in some capacity other than “we forwarded this info” 😓
I like the format of this video, it's great to have a few tested presets to use without having to do all the testing, It's nice you give us a range of presets to choose which one suits us best. Keep up the great work.
Great video as always, love how in depth it goes for people interested like myself but also if someone who was not very techy came across this they could just skip to what they need, As soon as I get my steam deck I'm gonna binge watch this channel lol
Thank you so much 😭 I'm really glad you liked the content, and I hope it helps you get the best performance possible. Thank you for being a subscriber and watching!
Thank you for the in depth content. Making the most of your steam deck is great. I don't often go for the heavier games but since repicking up shadow of war and loving it on the deck then picking up RDR2 I've been enjoying AAA action on such a small but surprising device and it's people like you that make that easier.
Can say in october 2023 this still work like a beauty on the prettiest mode. On my pc i have everything on ultra and get over 60 fps, but sometimes I just want to lay in bed and play and this is perfect for what i want personally. Pretty much locked 30 fps and just runs great and looks great. Thank you for this
Omg , bro , its awesome! I was so sceptic about steam deck , but saw one lot near me for low price and bought it. And with all tweaks from your another video , and 500 gb 50$ ssd from amazon it works in stable 30fps on prettiest preset(+ taa sharpening and motion blur) for 2:10! And i have lcd deck , not oled , without any undervolting. Game looks amazing , thanks!
Considering the bug you mentioned that's messing up proper utilization of the GPU/CPU, it would be super interesting (for someone like me) for you to revisit your tests on this game if a fix for it is released. Please consider doing this.
@@cryobyte33 I was informed by someone today who's currently using the Proton 7.0-5 beta (that will be released soon) that there is a RDR2 patch contained in it. I have no idea if it's related to what you were talking about in this video, but it's worth noting.
@@originalalienone Thank you for letting me know! I tried Proton Experimental, so I'm not sure if it skipped that, but I can definitely look into it. Update: Here's the issue contained github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6240 , and it doesn't look like it'll fix this, just resolve a crash issue.
@@cryobyte33 Ah, that's too bad. Well, thanks for the replies! You're providing a great source of help and information to the Steam Deck community, and we appreciate it. I'm part of the two-man team running Pixel Deck, and we follow your work with GREAT interest. Thank you for the work you put into stuff like this. It's very illuminating.
Not sure if you mentionned it (dont think you did) but one of the issue with RDR2 performance seemed to be related to how close you were to a body of water in the game. And I did notice my FPS dropping to the high 20s in the prologue when there is snow and streams of water. With that fix it's all back to a rock-solid 40 FPS. Insane stuff. Congrats.
Awesome video! Lots of thanksfor the explanations and recommended settings. Now the game have a new update adding FSR 2.2 to the game. And steam deck oled have a little bump on performance. Nextly i will try the prettiest preset on my OLED hope can run near 40 fps with the help of FSR.
@@cryobyte33 i got a weird one for you. On desktop mode in home folder there is a 12gb swapfile. But under devices - home there is the 16gb swapfile that was made using your app. The 16gb swapfile was used recently. The 12gb swapfile hasnt been used since its creation. Is ot safe to delete the 12gb swapfile?
@@sigmastun1191 That's... weird. Uhhh it should be safe, but I would check that the 12GB version isn't being used with 'swapon -s'. Let me know what happens!
Awesome, as always 👏 👍 So the newest swap fix will benefit (or beak even with) all games that use swap correct? Or is this a setting that will need to be tweeked for different games?
Cryo, any upgrades since this video? starting to play rdr2 today on the deck. Love the content, and you have helped me in several ocasions. Love from Brazil.
I hope you can help me. Every time I play this game, it gives me commands with buttons that I do not have on the Steam Deck as if they were keyboard buttons. I tried to modify the control buttons on the Steam device and also inside the game, but I did not find the solution. Please help me. I cannot enjoy the game because I am always searching about the buttons he intended
Hey man! Thanks for your video! I use your cryoutilities at the moment, but I want to know, other thank it's recommended settings, should I swap to 1gm vram allocated from the bios? Or leave it like that? (every option flashing green atm)
Thank you so much, I'm just really happy that people are finally starting to see that Linux is a great OS for things other than servers and POS systems 😅
Honestly I usually like the golden 40 but I don't see the point here, you lose so much in the visuals you might as well do the battery saver or max fps ones, it sucks that some areas can dip into the high 20s, but I think that the beautiful 30fps is the way to go, it's just such a huge difference
I tend to agree in this game, just because it's so cinematic. That said, a lot changed with RDR2 performance in SteamOS 3.4, so I need to update this video badly. Hopefully I can get to it soon and use some new tricks 😉 Thank you for watching!
The things you do blow my mind. I have no idea how these things work but you explain so well it just makes sense somehow. Steam should be shouting you out at this point. Another great video!
Incredible video. Just one question: Can the Swap resizer mod impact negatively performance in other games or emulators? I want to download and install it but I wouldn't like to be activating and deactivating each time. Many thanks and keep it up!!
Thank you for watching! Prior to the swappiness change, it COULD have affected some CPU-only tasks that used a ton of memory. With the swappiness set to 1 there should no longer be a performance penalty in any situation, to the best of my knowledge. As for emulators in particular, I've heard from viewers that the swap fix, even with a swappiness of 100, helps them quite a bit, especially the newer ones.
@@cryobyte33 Thanks. I actually just redid your swap script and it did say current value is 100. I should have tried that before asking lol. Thanks again!
Hi! Thanks a lot for you work. Do you have any setting recommendations for the SD Oled? Also, should the default cryobyte settings be changed every time I want to play RDR2 (since VRAM problem)?
Nice vid once again. In regards of that RDR2 VRAM BuG, could you report it to Valve/Steam? You did very good analysis and have evidences. If you open a ticket to the support and provide explanation they can give it to Developers.
Thanks for subbing and watching! I actually plan to do that this weekend, good looking out 😄 I'm hoping that with more people knowing of the problem, it'll help them realize it's a real issue.
@@cryobyte33 Valve has a good approach towards possible BUGs. I think once you provide them the data you gathered they will have more than usually when I report suspicion for BUGs (funny enough they were so far only for Rockstar games)
@@cryobyte33 I have actually the opposite experience with them. They never pushed for closure of a ticket. Even after I found a solution they told me if I really want close the ticket that it can stay open in case issue would repeat. As somebody who has experience with many other companies customer support this approach from Valve shocked me.
Hi! Thanks to you, I'm having fun playing rdr2 on Steam Deck. Is it possible to analyze the Death Stranding Directors cut? I'm having so much fun, but there are so many parts where the frame falls.thank you!!
Have you tested other values of swappiness, such as 5, 10, or 30, and in other games? Wondering if 1 would decrease performance in games that needs the memory/swap. Thanks for the vid.
I have tried 1, 25, ,50, 75 and 100. The swap still gets used even at 1, it will just prefer the RAM until the memory is nearly full. Of course, feel free to test other values and let me know if you notice something else. Thank you for watching!
This is amazing! Is there a difference between “steam-deck-swap-resizer” and “steam-deck utilities”? I installed CryoUtilities but I’m not sure if I should also install the resizer? Thanks!!
Good stuff, but one thing boggles my mind: Why on earth would you rather use the wayland fps cap with its forced triple buffering and added input latency instead of letting v-sync organically cap the FPS to the refresh rate? Also on the thing with the framerate getting tanked by water bodies: That's an old RAGE engine bug, which I've talked with R* about more than three months ago. Seeing this shit still not fixed makes me pretty sad, not gonna lie. Volumetrics tank the fps pretty hard as well - drop them down to low and bump up textures and GIQ instead. Much better picture.
Thanks for the comment, as usual! I use the wayland cap because the input latency is much more tolerable to me than frame timings being all over the place! It depends on the game, but in RDR2 I was getting frame timings +/-50% of 16.67ms which felt like it was stuttering HARD. As for the engine bug, thanks for letting me know! It was stumping me for quite a while! As for the Volumetrics, that's a good call for some players for sure. I kinda liked the better fog quality rather than the hazy vignette from low volumetrics quality, so I chose that on my higher presets 🙂
@@cryobyte33 Fair enough! Yeah I think you could combat the frame pacing all over the place with the game's triple buffer option, but this will cost you a bit of performance headroom. Anyway - amazing how the Deck handles this game at all!
@@deckverse surprisingly triple buffering did nothing to it, to the point where I was wondering if it even worked 😅 It might be worth a revisit on the latest Experimental though.
Excellent work! I think you're on to something with the "swappiness" setting. Cyberpunk now runs much more smooth with the swappiness set to 1 but with a 1gb vram setting. Now there's no need for me to switch to 4gb between that and red dead.
Great content, you really hit a sweet spot with the Steam Deck game performance tinkering videos! I would love to see you also try out performance boost/potato pc mods. There are a lot of those online for almost every big game. Additionally, you could even test the games on a Windows partition where it would be even easier to install mods.
Thanks for watching! I've tried some, but I haven't seen such a major boost as it would warrant the fidelity hit. Also, some games have anti-cheat implications (mostly Elden Ring). That said, I could start including them if people would actually use them, I just can't stand how bad they look 😂 As for Windows, the performance wouldn't be the same so that wouldn't be super useful until I have some Windows-specific testing to compare with. 🙂
This was a very interesting video! I didn't understand much and I'm too cowardly to try any of the fixes that involve changing Literally Anything in my deck that isn't a game setting (mainly because I'm afraid I won't be able to undo it if I screw up), but I still found this video very informative and engaging :)
Thank you for replying, sorry to hear that you're terrified of changing anything but I totally understand 🙂 Hopefully the recommended settings were at least helpful for you, and thank you for watching!
Nice work! I like your voice, its good to hear idk lol. Btw I guess there isn't anything to fix the "shadow-lag" around moving stuff, like your own character, using FSR right? Its only thing that annoys me from FSR, I dont care that much if its blurry but I dont like these weird shadows around the character
Thanks for the compliment, never gotten one for my voice! 😅 As for the "shadow lag", I think you mean what's normally called ghosting. FSR 2 and 2.1 both have it pretty bad at these resolutions. FSR basically works by taking a lower resolution image and reconstructing it into a bigger one with a fancy algorithm, but a lot of the time it can get messy between the subject (character) and landscape. TL;DR: Not really at the moment, but as FSR gets better, the problem should too. Thanks for watching!
Hey I noticed that hub settings performs better with no visual difference to max settings than your prettiest settings, I havent tested it near water tho. Search RDR2 hub settings and make sure that the thumbnail has 65% not 40% edit: on my way to saint denis i passed thru a forest then the fps drops by alot, but saint denis is a solid 30 fps tho
Thanks for letting me know! Yeah, the "prettiest" preset was hard to nail down because water and some open areas really destroy the FPS. Water has a known HAVOK bug, and some open spaces (especially the mountains) have enough foliage or long enough sight lines that I had to lower the fidelity to get 30 as often as possible. I plan on revisiting RDR2 now that 3.4 released with a fix for 4GB of VRAM, so keep an eye out for that, although I don't know exactly when it'll be.
Thanks a ton for the in depth look into tweaks and performance; I'm seeing much lower frames however. Is there something other than the swap fix, 1gb vram and your settings that I need to tweak? In valentine for example, I get dips down to 19, with 23 average on your "high" preset, when you mention getting a solid 30, so I'm hoping there was something I missed. Also, in my search for more perf, setting powertools smt off gave me way more FPS than using the standard 8 threads. Not using powertools, I'm spending lots of time below 25 FPS in all areas.
That’s… interesting. When I disabled SMT I got frames in the 21-24 range 🤨 everything I did was listed in the preset and I rode across nearly the half the map in the “prettier” preset (Strawberry > Valentine > Saint Denis) and never saw FPS below 28. Normally I might attribute it to maybe IO speed, but with the SMT results you’re getting that doesn’t make sense. The only reason I’d expect you to get better FPS with SMT disabled would be for TDP reasons, maybe the TDP limiter is broken on your Deck somehow? Thank you for watching, and I hope we can get yours working as well as mine!
@@cryobyte33 Yeah, it's a little frustrating seeing the FPS you get, and doing exactly the steps required, only to end up with 5-10 fewer FPS! With this said, a major caveat is that more recently I've been playing red dead online, although I would have guessed FPS would be higher due to the much sparser map. That said, I will retest story mode to be sure.
@@russ838 one other viewer did mention RDO as well, but they mentioned a specific location on the map, the swamp outside Saint Denis. Maybe fetching other player’s data holds up the rendering or something?
@@cryobyte33 Possible (more verif needed) PSA: Red dead online loses 5-10 fps for no apparent reason. Went back to singleplayer with a tactical deck restart as well, and I'm at 30-28 fps. Indeed the smt trick doesn't help! Might be specific to Red dead online due to networking load or something? I'll keep testing.
@@russ838 I'm actually wondering if RDO holds up each frame until it gets info from the server about player positions. Do you have a USB to ethernet adapter that you could plug into your network with?
Hi I'm such a big fan of RDR2 that I've cleared this game 5 times over the years with PS4. I bought the steam version this time to play with Steam Deck again, and your video was very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks! I appreciate your work! I have a question- I did the swappiness fix using your awesome installer- but am hesitant to do the VRAM increase, as it hurts RDR2. Is the improvement in all my other games (GoW, Jedi Fallen Order, TitanFall2, etc) due to the VRAM increase worth how much it will hurt RDR2? I'm torn. Like a confused child, I need guidance. Thanks in advance.
Thank you so much for supporting the channel, and for watching the videos! I'll start by saying that some users report that the bug has been fixed in SteamOS 3.4, but I haven't had the time to verify that yet. If that's the case, then setting it to 4GB of VRAM is a no-brainer. In the case that it isn't fixed, I would say that it depends on how often you play RDR2, and how immediately you want to be in-game. When it was installed, I didn't mind rebooting the Deck to change the VRAM really quickly because I played the game at a relaxed pace anyway. If you play often and want to just press play to hop right in, it might benefit you to leave it at 1GB. Out of the games you mentioned, I've only personally tested God of War, which does benefit quite a bit from 4GB of VRAM. I've heard that Jedi Fallen Order does as well, but can't attest to that one. Hopefully this was helpful, I'm sorry that I don't have a definitive answer after the 3.4 update!
I've heard that the Rockstar version is horrible on Deck. Even if you CAN get it booted, you don't get the pre-cached shaders through Steam so it's a stuttering mess 😞 Thank you for watching, and I hope R* figured out that Linux matters too 🤞
Great video! Thanks for all the effort you put in. I am using your recommended settings. When I run Red Dead Redemption 2 on the Steamdeck with the internal display everything is fine and I can play for hours without any problems. When I connect my Steamdeck to an external monitor I get random crashes of the game. The game just freezes and I have to use the SteamOS menu to exit the game. Do you have any idea maybe where these crashes are coming from and what I could try to fix? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Interesting, I haven't had the same issue but I would guess either a dock issue or an issue using a higher resolution. If it's a resolution issue, you should be able to isolate it by using the handheld resolution when docked, and monitoring for additional crashes. Thank you for watching!
So if I am playing this and use the recommended setting of Cryoultilies 2.0, I should just change the setting on boot back to 1gb instead of 4 and it should work best?
The steamOS seems like a solid OS but the vram bug annoying I hope valve fix it soon. I will try your new script today. Do you know it's a global problem with the vram bug in all games ?
Hey Cryo I saw where if you enable developer mode and install power tools you can actually enable a cpu boost. Just curious if you have tinkered with this and if there is the potential to hurt the steam deck if enabling cpu boost?
I have PowerTools installed and it’s technically CPU pinning (unless it updated to add new functionality today, I used it yesterday). I’ve used it extensively but so far no in-game performance has benefited from it. I will be releasing an update to my Easy Performance Boosts video that includes some information about it, and I just tested Forza Horizon 5 with it today, though 🙂 Thanks for watching!
All games and software on the SteamOS will be affected, sorry for being unclear about it in the video! I'll likely make a standalone update to my Performance Boosts video with more detail and clarification in the near future. Thank you for watching!
Just a random tid bit. I’ve been using the prettiest settings for campaign, and my battery is getting about 1 hour 15 minutes instead of 1 40. Not sure if I’ve missed anything. Though the game runs really well! Thank you
Interesting, I would guess that you're around a lot of water in-game. At the time of testing I was mainly in the plains region with some trips to Horseshoe Overlook, so I didn't trigger the engine bug while testing for battery life. It's been quite a while since testing this, but I've been meaning to go back to it, I'll make sure to double-verify my results next time. Thank you for watching, and for letting me know!
Hello, sorry for being off topic. But I no longer know what to do and where else to look for information. Have you seen a bug with ground textures in RDR2, or maybe you have heard about it? An example of what I'm talking about: in your your video at 23:42. The fact is that I found a lot of mentions of a similar problem, but nowhere is it said about a guaranteed way to solve it. Thank you in advance for your help.
Yes, this is a known interaction of Proton and the RAGE engine that RDR2 uses. Theoretically it can be patched, but I don't think any current version of Proton avoids the issue 😞
My only regret is that I didn’t find this video until the epilogue of the game and played through dozens of hours at an unstable 30fps. This is brilliant!
this is neat! Will be testing some games with this. If I understand correctly, this is more focused on GPU optimization, but how about tweaks to the cpu as well? for the more cpu-intensive games out there? is such thing possible?
Thanks for watching! The answer is yes, and I did do some CPU testing here. In particular, I disabled 2, 4, 6, and 8 cores, disabled SMT, and pinned the CPU at 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5Ghz to see if there was any benefit 🙂 We don’t have the ability to overclock or under volt just yet, but I hope we get it at some point because I’ll be the first to try it.
The most demanding area in the game is along "little creek river". even when i get 40+ fps in strawberry my frames are destroyed there. especially during sunrise and sunset
Interesting, I haven't completed the game and am only in chapter 3, so the most demanding that I've been to were Strawberry and Saint Denis. Thank you for watching and letting me know for future videos! 🙏
Ah, I hadn't tried poker since I assumed that it wouldn't be a good indicator of performance for the game, interesting. When I go back and re-test, I'll definitely be checking it out for fine details! Thank you for watching, and I hope that you got better performance from my findings!
You're the best thank you so much! I'm playing it on your recommended settings and it runs like a dream beside the drop fps near water! One feedback if i may, would be great in the future to also include a recommended settings for docked gameplay on TV ! ❤
Thank you so much for watching! I actually started adding Docked presets in my newer videos, so definitely give those a look for any games you're interested in 😁
Would you still recommend this 2 months later? I just noticed a lot of what u said in the "easy and safe" video seems easier and also more effective just wondering if you've changed stances since then.
The "Easy and Safe" video is definitely more up-to-date in the instruction department, but the findings in this video still hold true 🙂 Thank you for watching!
Wow this is a great video. Well put together and it shows you put a lot of care and effort into this. Keep it up! One suggestion/ask is if you could point out some of the differences (if any?) on some of the presets. I know you've listed the graphical settings but I mean more things that you can observe in the game on different settings. Eg on prettiest are there a lot more people in towns? Do puddles still form on the performance setting? Probably more in the realm of Digital Foundry stuff but it would be interesting to know how different settings can impact that playing experience on the Steam Deck :)
Thank you for watching! That's a good idea, and I'll see how viable it is in the context of the video's pacing in the future 🙂 The footage in the background is of the respective preset, so you should be able to see some difference in the video already, though! Thank you for the suggestion, and again for watching, I really appreciate it!
I really like that a lot of tinkering people are doing is helped by the openness of Linux. I can use 'sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=1' and test it out knowing what it does because its a well documented thing. I just hope some of the developers start creating more native version of games though your Rockstar/Ubisoft/EA types I am not sure if they will jump on the bandwagon just yet but the way its running now works pretty well, and is all made possible by enthusiasts working on open source projects.
Agreed! I've been part of the Linux community for 17 years, although mostly offline, and the past year or two has been the most rapid evolution of Linux and FOSS I've ever seen. 😁 Thank you for watching!
Hey man I’d love if you were to go into how to use the gamemode custom config and or link a page explaining more about it. I want to make the most out of my laptop and this is the only tweak that I feel have the best chance to apply. If I were to put SteamOS on my laptop would any of the other tweaks work?
If you did put SteamOS on the laptop, it would definitely take effect, but it’s hard to know if it would improve performance or not since it’s very hardware dependent 🙂 As for the game mode config, it’s also very hardware dependent but if you email my business email I’ll be happy to send you some quick instructions and the exact config file that I used! Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 I'm really considering it. I might get an iso and look and check how it is when I boot into the temp os, check if it has all of the apps. The biggest change will be moving from nobara (fedora-based) to arch, and from GNOME to KDE. I'm considering also trying to get the barebones Steam OS and swapping ou t the kernel and wine for tkg's to see if that brings up performance as well (if 'm able). Than I could try getting more vram and trying the tweaks (including the gamemode config). The annoying thing moving from windows was that linux defaults on 4 gb of vram when windows did 8. I really hope I can increase this and with all my other knowledge of linux make this laptop last ages. Thanks for such consistant engagement with the comments!! I'll report how it goes.
@@Alex-ex5zm Thank you for the update! I'm really interested in how it runs, and I would recommend this build since it's the most "official" github.com/theVakhovskeIsTaken/holoiso 🙂
Any way to get the epic game store version not fail when trying to pick up Rockstar launcher. It would not get passed this and error out when trying to use Heroic. Heroic worked fine for Cyberpunk. But RDR2 won't even boot passed an error trying to boot it through rockstar launcher.
As far as I'm aware, nobody has been able to get non-Steam versions of Red Dead working in the past few months 😞 I think that the Rockstar Launcher uses a hook for DRM that only Steam supports on Linux thus far, but that's just a guess and there's nothing that we players can do about it other than file a bug with Rockstar. Regardless, thanks for watching! I'm sorry that you're having an issue with the other versions.
Thank you CryoByte for all you work. I got the game to run with DX12 and i've got a lot more performace. The bad thing is that the water and snow doesn't render properly
Thank you for watching! Yeah, DirectX12 is VERY buggy for RDR2 on Steam Deck, and when I tested it didn't allow me to change settings without breaking the entire game 😓 I really hope that R* takes the time to fix it. Regardless, thank you for watching!
do we really need to put 16gb as swap ? seem high .. on linux we are always half the memory 16gb -> 8gb, another question what is swap file size by defaut and will valve fix it by their own or never ? did they talk at all about the issues ?
They haven't talked about it AFAIK, and 8GB works fine, but 16GB performs better. On Linux we usually recommend half of RAM because the RAM is 100% dedicated to the CPU on traditional systems. Here on the Deck, we have the GPU using up to 8GB, so you add that to the 8GB recommendation for swap, resulting in 16GB 🙂 Thank you for watching, and let me know if you have any more questions!
Correct, as far as I know it's isolated to Red Dead 2 and only on SteamOS 3.3.2 and higher. I plan to submit a bug report this weekend when I have the time. Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 looks like a good reason for me to continue avoiding RDR2 till this gets resolved. I am very impressed at what you were able to pull off with it though. I love the gains I get from your script and recommendations in other games.
@@Latchfpv I think the performance is still very good, so if you want to play I can definitely recommend it. That said, I totally get where you're coming from because it is frustrating 😅 Thank you for continuing to support the channel!
This is interesting cause I keep getting crashes about 10-15 mins when using 1gb vram bios setting but when put on 4gb it runs fine except near water. I just wanna play smoothly 😭
This is a bug with the RAGE engine that it uses. Rockstar is aware of the issue, but a source tells me that they aren’t putting anymore development effort into the game 😞 Thank you for watching, though!
Hello! Just got a steam deck oled, is there an updated recommended setting for high graphics? I bought a steamdeck oled for red dead redemption2 only. That’s how much I love this game! And I really value pretty settings over battery life. Please please please guide us thank you!
Thank you so much for this guide and the swap fix, i think you should make a short video for the updated version, so people don't wear out their ssd for nothing
Thank you for the idea, I might be able to piece together an updated "Easy performance boosts" video with some existing footage and the explanations, if you think that would make sense? Thanks for watching!
Wow, superb content thanks! My deck is on its way and you've already covered 4 of the big games I'll be playing on it, so looking forward to getting some decent performance :)
I remember reading about the VRAM thing in the early days of the Steam deck. 1gb is basically 'auto' in steam OS so it's recommended to leave it. 4gb is recommended for Windows though as it has no access to adjust on the fly. However I've definitely seen some improvements using 4gb in steam OS in some games..
Correct, 1GB SHOULD be the ideal, but my testing shows that 4GB performs marginally better in most games. There's a big explanation in my "EASY & SAFE Health & Performance Boosts" video if you want to check it out, but the TL;DR is that it's not performing correctly since the CPU can evict VRAM at will. Thank you for watching!
You are a gem to this community. I hope that bug gets fixed soon. Valve should hire you already lol it blows my mind that you do all of this work in addition to your job. I can’t even imagine what you’d do for them/us if they were paying you.
Nevertheless, thank you so much for all that you do and that wasn’t me asking you to do more by any means. Very grateful for all of the value you provide 🙏🏻
Thank you so much! 😭🙏
I really enjoy doing all this, and honestly just feel bad that I don't have all the equipment I want to make better content!
I'm making sure to not burn out by pacing the rate of content, and not every video will take 20+ hours to benchmark alone 😉
The new swap fix blew my mind, dude. You're amazing, seriously. I don't even own the steam deck yet, but I just love the investigation proccess of your videos.
Thank you for watching, and for the kind words!
Awesome gameplay dude!
Thanks, I don't know how I got those headshots with the input lag I have on my setup! 😂
Thanks for watching!
@@cryobyte33 😅😂
I'm getting my steamdeck on Monday and your videos are like a bible for easy free performance upgrades. I do overclocking on windows and bios on pcs, but I've never used linux and I love your channel. Definitely will start patroning starting first of the next month.
Thank you so much for watching, and considering supporting me with Patreon! ❤️
I really love helping others with the random knowledge I've acquired, and hearing that even people with traditional technical ability are benefitting from it makes it even better 😄
@@cryobyte33 hey cryo, do you know the command line to check the nvme width if it's x2 or x4? i saw it somewhere on reddit, but I can't find it. i'm trying to find out if my drive is x2 or x4, thanks
@@khmergodhobbies Heya, that would be the lspci command. If you want to see just the width then "sudo lspci -vvs --01:00--.- | grep -i width" (without the quotes) should get you the supported and current width.
The supported line starts with LnkCap, the current connection is LnkSta.
Hope this helps!
You are just something else bro, I just started this game and am so happy with the performance and now I'm gonna get it to look even better thanks to you, truly you deserve all the support bro, glad I subbed.
Thank you so much! 😭
I really appreciate the kind words, the sub and the view, I hope that you're happy with the results after you apply the settings! ❤️
@cryobyte33 it’s not clear from the video where I’m supposed to add the flag -cpuLoadRebalancing within the system.xml file. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks for the amazing content!
For folks with an OLED Steam Deck, the performance is ever so slightly better than this, even without doing the swap fix.
Use the same preset presented by Cryo, but turn FSR to Quality. Then cap your FPS at 45 and 90 hz. It seems to be almost completely locked at 45 with this set up, which is mindboggling considering how good it looks. This is one of the benchmarks developers should be striving for (Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk being two others), and I hope beyond hope more will implement FSR 2.2 or the new FSR 3.1 natively in their games.
Looking at you, From Software! I want FSR support in the Elden Ring DLC more than anything now.
This is an amazing resource, thank you for the thorough research and testing!
Thank you for watching, and I hope you enjoy the better performance!
I definitely hope Valve fixes the issue that's hindering the VRAM expansion fix quickly. Seems like a huge oversight on their part.
Agreed, I'll be submitting a bug report this weekend and hope that they seriously investigate it. In all fairness, they may not have tested with non-default VRAM values and that would have made the issue much harder to diagnose.
Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 thank you for submitting a report rather then just making s TH-cam video about it! Seriously thank you
Please reply to this comment if there's any further development regarding this issue, I too am patiently waiting for more information...
@@xDARKSHADEx unfortunately, nothing has happened in the meantime, I’m still waiting to hear back in some capacity other than “we forwarded this info” 😓
@CryoByte33 Anything yet?
I like the format of this video, it's great to have a few tested presets to use without having to do all the testing, It's nice you give us a range of presets to choose which one suits us best. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much for watching, and I'm glad that the format is well received 😄
Fantastic video! I love tinkering with the deck and you sir make it so easy to follow. Thank you very much. Subscribed!
Thank you for watching and subscribing, it really helps out!
Great video as always, love how in depth it goes for people interested like myself but also if someone who was not very techy came across this they could just skip to what they need, As soon as I get my steam deck I'm gonna binge watch this channel lol
Great to see you here, as always!
Thanks for continuing to watch even if you don't have your Deck yet 🙂
22:56 you just couldn't make it 2 hours huh 🤣🤣 nice video as always man
Bro, u work so much to make this videos, u are amazing
Thank you so much 😭
I'm really glad you liked the content, and I hope it helps you get the best performance possible. Thank you for being a subscriber and watching!
Thank you for the in depth content. Making the most of your steam deck is great. I don't often go for the heavier games but since repicking up shadow of war and loving it on the deck then picking up RDR2 I've been enjoying AAA action on such a small but surprising device and it's people like you that make that easier.
Thank you so much for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it, and it really helps me keep coming out with content like this ❤️
@@cryobyte33 no worries just appreciate the answer to my question on a month old video.
The best channel of steam deck!.Amazing work! Keep doing these amazing videos.Congrats!❤
Thank you for watching, I'm glad you enjoy the content 😁
@@cryobyte33 i love your explanations in each game dive.Amazing work👏👏
Can say in october 2023 this still work like a beauty on the prettiest mode. On my pc i have everything on ultra and get over 60 fps, but sometimes I just want to lay in bed and play and this is perfect for what i want personally. Pretty much locked 30 fps and just runs great and looks great. Thank you for this
Omg , bro , its awesome! I was so sceptic about steam deck , but saw one lot near me for low price and bought it. And with all tweaks from your another video , and 500 gb 50$ ssd from amazon it works in stable 30fps on prettiest preset(+ taa sharpening and motion blur) for 2:10! And i have lcd deck , not oled , without any undervolting. Game looks amazing , thanks!
Incredible video, outstanding work!
Thank you for watching, and being subscribed!
This is very very amazing work!
Thank you for watching!
I have no idea how to do any of this, but here I am still watching and enjoying. 🤷🏽♂️
Considering the bug you mentioned that's messing up proper utilization of the GPU/CPU, it would be super interesting (for someone like me) for you to revisit your tests on this game if a fix for it is released. Please consider doing this.
I do plan on revisiting, if even just for a mini-deep-dive, so don't worry about that 😉
Thank you for watching, and continuing to support the channel!
@@cryobyte33 I was informed by someone today who's currently using the Proton 7.0-5 beta (that will be released soon) that there is a RDR2 patch contained in it. I have no idea if it's related to what you were talking about in this video, but it's worth noting.
@@originalalienone Thank you for letting me know! I tried Proton Experimental, so I'm not sure if it skipped that, but I can definitely look into it.
Update: Here's the issue contained github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6240 , and it doesn't look like it'll fix this, just resolve a crash issue.
@@cryobyte33 Ah, that's too bad. Well, thanks for the replies! You're providing a great source of help and information to the Steam Deck community, and we appreciate it. I'm part of the two-man team running Pixel Deck, and we follow your work with GREAT interest. Thank you for the work you put into stuff like this. It's very illuminating.
@@originalalienone 😲 Thank you for watching, and I'm happy to help you guys do push the Deck forward too!
Not sure if you mentionned it (dont think you did) but one of the issue with RDR2 performance seemed to be related to how close you were to a body of water in the game. And I did notice my FPS dropping to the high 20s in the prologue when there is snow and streams of water. With that fix it's all back to a rock-solid 40 FPS. Insane stuff. Congrats.
hey i have a windows machine and i have this problem when i am near water my fps drop from 37 to 25 is there any fix
Awesome video! Lots of thanksfor the explanations and recommended settings. Now the game have a new update adding FSR 2.2 to the game.
And steam deck oled have a little bump on performance.
Nextly i will try the prettiest preset on my OLED hope can run near 40 fps with the help of FSR.
Excellent vid
Thank you for watching, and being a subscriber!
This is amazing stuff. Thank you so much.
Thank you for watching!
Your app enabled me to run new world on my deck. Thank You!
Thank you for watching, and I'm super happy to hear that I helped run a new game on the Deck 🙂
@@cryobyte33 i got a weird one for you. On desktop mode in home folder there is a 12gb swapfile. But under devices - home there is the 16gb swapfile that was made using your app. The 16gb swapfile was used recently. The 12gb swapfile hasnt been used since its creation. Is ot safe to delete the 12gb swapfile?
@@sigmastun1191 That's... weird. Uhhh it should be safe, but I would check that the 12GB version isn't being used with 'swapon -s'. Let me know what happens!
@@cryobyte33 the 12gb swap file was ok to delete. Info center showed memory has 16gb swapfile. Deleted 12gb swapfile, restarted and its all ok.
@@sigmastun1191 Still super weird, but thanks for letting me know! May your frames be quick 🙂
There is no way I stay up late doing your upgrades just to wake up in the morning and I gotta update it lol either way great vids 😅
Sorry about that, but I'm happy that you'll have much better performance now 🙂
Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 yes I noticed a pretty nice boost in Days Gone so far amazing stuff keep it up your channel is gonna be big as this market needs you 🙂
A tip: Attempting Sharpshooter 6 from a nearby cliff of a town will crash the game when attempting to aim with scope in center area of whatever town.
Awesome. I'll swap that swap file and try this out. Shout out to Vance!
Hell yeah, let me know how it goes! 😄
BIG shoutout to Vance, what a legend!
Truly an amazing insight, thanks mate, just a question, does the swapping affect all Games or only the ones you showcase?
Thanks for watching!
Swapping affects all games in all locations (SSD or otherwise), as long as you're on SteamOS and not Windows 🙂
Awesome work! Makes a huge difference from the swap change alone. Have you heard anything else about the vram fix? Is it still broken?
Unfortunately it's still broken. I have more details near the end of my CU2 announcement video, which I recommend watching. Thank you for watching!
Awesome, as always 👏 👍
So the newest swap fix will benefit (or beak even with) all games that use swap correct? Or is this a setting that will need to be tweeked for different games?
Thanks for watching!
It will either benefit or break even in all situations I'm aware of, no per-game tweaking necessary 🙂
@@cryobyte33 Beautiful! That is the best kind of fix!
Any updates. I have tried the prettiest and best presets, and I am not getting close to a lock 30 or 40, respectively.
Cryo, any upgrades since this video? starting to play rdr2 today on the deck. Love the content, and you have helped me in several ocasions. Love from Brazil.
I hope you can help me. Every time I play this game, it gives me commands with buttons that I do not have on the Steam Deck as if they were keyboard buttons. I tried to modify the control buttons on the Steam device and also inside the game, but I did not find the solution. Please help me. I cannot enjoy the game because I am always searching about the buttons he intended
Hey man! Thanks for your video! I use your cryoutilities at the moment, but I want to know, other thank it's recommended settings, should I swap to 1gm vram allocated from the bios? Or leave it like that? (every option flashing green atm)
@@cavemanzlatkov3569 yes, change your uma buffer size to 1gb when playing RDR2 with his swap file settings
As a long time Linux user I love that you're bringing all these Linux tweaks to a whole new set of users. Bravo man.
Thank you so much, I'm just really happy that people are finally starting to see that Linux is a great OS for things other than servers and POS systems 😅
@@cryobyte33 😀 Oh don't get me started.... right with you man, right with you.
Honestly I usually like the golden 40 but I don't see the point here, you lose so much in the visuals you might as well do the battery saver or max fps ones, it sucks that some areas can dip into the high 20s, but I think that the beautiful 30fps is the way to go, it's just such a huge difference
I tend to agree in this game, just because it's so cinematic. That said, a lot changed with RDR2 performance in SteamOS 3.4, so I need to update this video badly. Hopefully I can get to it soon and use some new tricks 😉
Thank you for watching!
You are doing the lords work kind sir. Thank you for helping a befuddled thirty something optimize his precious free time.
8:24 72% lower? Wheres the math there? Lol
The things you do blow my mind. I have no idea how these things work but you explain so well it just makes sense somehow. Steam should be shouting you out at this point. Another great video!
Thank you for watching, subbing, and the kind words! I'm really happy that I'm able to teach people about these things 😄
Incredible video. Just one question: Can the Swap resizer mod impact negatively performance in other games or emulators? I want to download and install it but I wouldn't like to be activating and deactivating each time. Many thanks and keep it up!!
Thank you for watching!
Prior to the swappiness change, it COULD have affected some CPU-only tasks that used a ton of memory. With the swappiness set to 1 there should no longer be a performance penalty in any situation, to the best of my knowledge.
As for emulators in particular, I've heard from viewers that the swap fix, even with a swappiness of 100, helps them quite a bit, especially the newer ones.
@@cryobyte33 you are an angel hahahaha keep up the incredible work. You just got yourself a new patron
Thanks for this. Is the default swap tendency 1 also?
Thank you for watching!
The default swap tendency for the Deck is 100, but my recommendation is changing it to 1.
@@cryobyte33 Thanks. I actually just redid your swap script and it did say current value is 100. I should have tried that before asking lol. Thanks again!
Sad to report as of July 2023, the VRAM bug still persists. I had to turn min VRAM back to 1gb
these deep dive vids are brilliant. love the analysis n detail. great work. subbed 🥳
Thank you for watching, I'm glad you enjoy the content 😁
Any changes to VRAM as of April 2023? Also considering the launch of proton 8
Nope, 1GB is still best, the issue is unfortunately an engine bug so I don't believe P8 will help here 😓
Hi! Thanks a lot for you work. Do you have any setting recommendations for the SD Oled? Also, should the default cryobyte settings be changed every time I want to play RDR2 (since VRAM problem)?
Nice vid once again. In regards of that RDR2 VRAM BuG, could you report it to Valve/Steam? You did very good analysis and have evidences. If you open a ticket to the support and provide explanation they can give it to Developers.
Thanks for subbing and watching!
I actually plan to do that this weekend, good looking out 😄 I'm hoping that with more people knowing of the problem, it'll help them realize it's a real issue.
@@cryobyte33 Valve has a good approach towards possible BUGs. I think once you provide them the data you gathered they will have more than usually when I report suspicion for BUGs (funny enough they were so far only for Rockstar games)
@@MiFonito Great to hear that they're receptive. I was worried about having it brushed off 😅
@@cryobyte33 I have actually the opposite experience with them. They never pushed for closure of a ticket. Even after I found a solution they told me if I really want close the ticket that it can stay open in case issue would repeat. As somebody who has experience with many other companies customer support this approach from Valve shocked me.
Yo, just wanted to update you and say that I just opened a ticket with Steam Support, let's hope that they take a look 🙂
Thanks for your content 😊 boot video !!:)
Thank you again for the idea, I need to figure out how to make one since I'm not an animator! 😅
It's a little late, but I added a custom boot video for patrons 😄
Hi! Thanks to you, I'm having fun playing rdr2 on Steam Deck. Is it possible to analyze the Death Stranding Directors cut? I'm having so much fun, but there are so many parts where the frame falls.thank you!!
Thank you for watching! I have DS:DC on my very short-list so I'm hoping to get to it soon 😁
Have you tested other values of swappiness, such as 5, 10, or 30, and in other games? Wondering if 1 would decrease performance in games that needs the memory/swap. Thanks for the vid.
I have tried 1, 25, ,50, 75 and 100. The swap still gets used even at 1, it will just prefer the RAM until the memory is nearly full. Of course, feel free to test other values and let me know if you notice something else.
Thank you for watching!
Haven't started RDR2 yet. So once will, at least I know that need to rollback to 1gb of VRAM. Thanks for your work!
Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoy it!
Any chance you could do Skyrim?
Love the videos.
I plan to eventually, but that means that I'll need to mod it which takes a while. Thank you for watching!
This is amazing! Is there a difference between “steam-deck-swap-resizer” and “steam-deck utilities”? I installed CryoUtilities but I’m not sure if I should also install the resizer? Thanks!!
steam-deck-resizer is the legacy version, CryoUtilities is the correct one 🙂 Thank you so much for watching and using the script!
@@cryobyte33 Just curious, do you know if the 1G VRAM bug stills exists?
@@Buffypoodle I’ve heard 50/50 since the latest update. I think that it probably still exists, but haven’t gotten to test it quite yet.
Good stuff, but one thing boggles my mind: Why on earth would you rather use the wayland fps cap with its forced triple buffering and added input latency instead of letting v-sync organically cap the FPS to the refresh rate? Also on the thing with the framerate getting tanked by water bodies: That's an old RAGE engine bug, which I've talked with R* about more than three months ago. Seeing this shit still not fixed makes me pretty sad, not gonna lie. Volumetrics tank the fps pretty hard as well - drop them down to low and bump up textures and GIQ instead. Much better picture.
Thanks for the comment, as usual!
I use the wayland cap because the input latency is much more tolerable to me than frame timings being all over the place! It depends on the game, but in RDR2 I was getting frame timings +/-50% of 16.67ms which felt like it was stuttering HARD.
As for the engine bug, thanks for letting me know! It was stumping me for quite a while! As for the Volumetrics, that's a good call for some players for sure. I kinda liked the better fog quality rather than the hazy vignette from low volumetrics quality, so I chose that on my higher presets 🙂
@@cryobyte33 Fair enough! Yeah I think you could combat the frame pacing all over the place with the game's triple buffer option, but this will cost you a bit of performance headroom. Anyway - amazing how the Deck handles this game at all!
@@deckverse surprisingly triple buffering did nothing to it, to the point where I was wondering if it even worked 😅
It might be worth a revisit on the latest Experimental though.
Excellent work! I think you're on to something with the "swappiness" setting. Cyberpunk now runs much more smooth with the swappiness set to 1 but with a 1gb vram setting. Now there's no need for me to switch to 4gb between that and red dead.
Awesome! 4GB of VRAM should still benefit C77, especially on the lows, but it's good to know you can avoid the hassle of BIOS when swapping 🙂
Great content, you really hit a sweet spot with the Steam Deck game performance tinkering videos! I would love to see you also try out performance boost/potato pc mods. There are a lot of those online for almost every big game. Additionally, you could even test the games on a Windows partition where it would be even easier to install mods.
Thanks for watching!
I've tried some, but I haven't seen such a major boost as it would warrant the fidelity hit. Also, some games have anti-cheat implications (mostly Elden Ring). That said, I could start including them if people would actually use them, I just can't stand how bad they look 😂
As for Windows, the performance wouldn't be the same so that wouldn't be super useful until I have some Windows-specific testing to compare with. 🙂
I assume I don't need to get that Swap Resizer if I already have CryoUtilities 2.0?
Correct, that portion is outdated now. I plan to revisit RDR2 at some point, with the new tweaks 🙂
Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 Okay, good. :)
Thanks for your great work!
This was a very interesting video! I didn't understand much and I'm too cowardly to try any of the fixes that involve changing Literally Anything in my deck that isn't a game setting (mainly because I'm afraid I won't be able to undo it if I screw up), but I still found this video very informative and engaging :)
Thank you for replying, sorry to hear that you're terrified of changing anything but I totally understand 🙂
Hopefully the recommended settings were at least helpful for you, and thank you for watching!
Nice work! I like your voice, its good to hear idk lol.
Btw I guess there isn't anything to fix the "shadow-lag" around moving stuff, like your own character, using FSR right? Its only thing that annoys me from FSR, I dont care that much if its blurry but I dont like these weird shadows around the character
Thanks for the compliment, never gotten one for my voice! 😅
As for the "shadow lag", I think you mean what's normally called ghosting. FSR 2 and 2.1 both have it pretty bad at these resolutions.
FSR basically works by taking a lower resolution image and reconstructing it into a bigger one with a fancy algorithm, but a lot of the time it can get messy between the subject (character) and landscape.
TL;DR: Not really at the moment, but as FSR gets better, the problem should too.
Thanks for watching!
Hey I noticed that hub settings performs better with no visual difference to max settings than your prettiest settings, I havent tested it near water tho.
Search RDR2 hub settings and make sure that the thumbnail has 65% not 40%
edit: on my way to saint denis i passed thru a forest then the fps drops by alot, but saint denis is a solid 30 fps tho
Thanks for letting me know! Yeah, the "prettiest" preset was hard to nail down because water and some open areas really destroy the FPS.
Water has a known HAVOK bug, and some open spaces (especially the mountains) have enough foliage or long enough sight lines that I had to lower the fidelity to get 30 as often as possible.
I plan on revisiting RDR2 now that 3.4 released with a fix for 4GB of VRAM, so keep an eye out for that, although I don't know exactly when it'll be.
Thanks a ton for the in depth look into tweaks and performance; I'm seeing much lower frames however. Is there something other than the swap fix, 1gb vram and your settings that I need to tweak? In valentine for example, I get dips down to 19, with 23 average on your "high" preset, when you mention getting a solid 30, so I'm hoping there was something I missed. Also, in my search for more perf, setting powertools smt off gave me way more FPS than using the standard 8 threads. Not using powertools, I'm spending lots of time below 25 FPS in all areas.
That’s… interesting. When I disabled SMT I got frames in the 21-24 range 🤨 everything I did was listed in the preset and I rode across nearly the half the map in the “prettier” preset (Strawberry > Valentine > Saint Denis) and never saw FPS below 28.
Normally I might attribute it to maybe IO speed, but with the SMT results you’re getting that doesn’t make sense.
The only reason I’d expect you to get better FPS with SMT disabled would be for TDP reasons, maybe the TDP limiter is broken on your Deck somehow?
Thank you for watching, and I hope we can get yours working as well as mine!
@@cryobyte33 Yeah, it's a little frustrating seeing the FPS you get, and doing exactly the steps required, only to end up with 5-10 fewer FPS! With this said, a major caveat is that more recently I've been playing red dead online, although I would have guessed FPS would be higher due to the much sparser map. That said, I will retest story mode to be sure.
@@russ838 one other viewer did mention RDO as well, but they mentioned a specific location on the map, the swamp outside Saint Denis. Maybe fetching other player’s data holds up the rendering or something?
@@cryobyte33 Possible (more verif needed) PSA: Red dead online loses 5-10 fps for no apparent reason. Went back to singleplayer with a tactical deck restart as well, and I'm at 30-28 fps. Indeed the smt trick doesn't help! Might be specific to Red dead online due to networking load or something? I'll keep testing.
@@russ838 I'm actually wondering if RDO holds up each frame until it gets info from the server about player positions. Do you have a USB to ethernet adapter that you could plug into your network with?
Hi I'm such a big fan of RDR2 that I've cleared this game 5 times over the years with PS4. I bought the steam version this time to play with Steam Deck again, and your video was very helpful. Thank you.
That's amazing to hear, I have yet to beat it but one of these days I'll take the time to do it! Have an amazing day, and happy holidays!
I can't find rdr2 on steam deck store? Where is it
Thanks! I appreciate your work! I have a question- I did the swappiness fix using your awesome installer- but am hesitant to do the VRAM increase, as it hurts RDR2. Is the improvement in all my other games (GoW, Jedi Fallen Order, TitanFall2, etc) due to the VRAM increase worth how much it will hurt RDR2? I'm torn. Like a confused child, I need guidance. Thanks in advance.
Thank you so much for supporting the channel, and for watching the videos!
I'll start by saying that some users report that the bug has been fixed in SteamOS 3.4, but I haven't had the time to verify that yet. If that's the case, then setting it to 4GB of VRAM is a no-brainer.
In the case that it isn't fixed, I would say that it depends on how often you play RDR2, and how immediately you want to be in-game. When it was installed, I didn't mind rebooting the Deck to change the VRAM really quickly because I played the game at a relaxed pace anyway. If you play often and want to just press play to hop right in, it might benefit you to leave it at 1GB.
Out of the games you mentioned, I've only personally tested God of War, which does benefit quite a bit from 4GB of VRAM. I've heard that Jedi Fallen Order does as well, but can't attest to that one.
Hopefully this was helpful, I'm sorry that I don't have a definitive answer after the 3.4 update!
@@cryobyte33 indeed you are the one spoken of in prophecy. This whole community owes you a debt of gratitude.
Cant for the life of me get it to work properly, rockstar launcher using lutris, can boot in desktop mode but it wont start in game mode.
I've heard that the Rockstar version is horrible on Deck. Even if you CAN get it booted, you don't get the pre-cached shaders through Steam so it's a stuttering mess 😞
Thank you for watching, and I hope R* figured out that Linux matters too 🤞
Fourth :)
VULKAN will get better performance anyway, When you use Vulkan on Deck, the Translation Layer doesn't get triggered and all call is native call.
Yeah, but the DX12 version doesn’t suffer from the VRAM bug 🙂
Well structured and comprehensive video 👍
Thank you for watching and being subscribed, I'm glad you liked it!
Great video! Thanks for all the effort you put in. I am using your recommended settings. When I run Red Dead Redemption 2 on the Steamdeck with the internal display everything is fine and I can play for hours without any problems. When I connect my Steamdeck to an external monitor I get random crashes of the game. The game just freezes and I have to use the SteamOS menu to exit the game. Do you have any idea maybe where these crashes are coming from and what I could try to fix? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Interesting, I haven't had the same issue but I would guess either a dock issue or an issue using a higher resolution. If it's a resolution issue, you should be able to isolate it by using the handheld resolution when docked, and monitoring for additional crashes.
Thank you for watching!
So if I am playing this and use the recommended setting of Cryoultilies 2.0, I should just change the setting on boot back to 1gb instead of 4 and it should work best?
Yup! I haven't tested it much since this video, but I've heard that the settings still hold up well from the community 🙂
Thanks for watching!
The steamOS seems like a solid OS but the vram bug annoying I hope valve fix it soon.
I will try your new script today.
Do you know it's a global problem with the vram bug in all games ?
The bug is only with Red Dead 2, every other game functions the same as it did before as far as I can see.
Sorry, I am unclear on what I need for these settings. I just got my Steam Deck, unopened. So I need to install 1) CryoUtilities and 2) Swap Script?
Just Cryoutilities, the swap settings have been moved there
Amazing work broheim. Could you do witcher 3?
Good idea, thanks for the suggestion!
I have a few videos already planned, but I'll add it to the list 🙂
@@cryobyte33 That would be awesome! Thanks for the great videos sir! Can't wait to see the next one.
Hey Cryo I saw where if you enable developer mode and install power tools you can actually enable a cpu boost. Just curious if you have tinkered with this and if there is the potential to hurt the steam deck if enabling cpu boost?
I have PowerTools installed and it’s technically CPU pinning (unless it updated to add new functionality today, I used it yesterday). I’ve used it extensively but so far no in-game performance has benefited from it.
I will be releasing an update to my Easy Performance Boosts video that includes some information about it, and I just tested Forza Horizon 5 with it today, though 🙂
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Does changing the “swappiness” effect any other games as far as you know?
All games and software on the SteamOS will be affected, sorry for being unclear about it in the video! I'll likely make a standalone update to my Performance Boosts video with more detail and clarification in the near future.
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Just a random tid bit. I’ve been using the prettiest settings for campaign, and my battery is getting about 1 hour 15 minutes instead of 1 40. Not sure if I’ve missed anything. Though the game runs really well! Thank you
Interesting, I would guess that you're around a lot of water in-game. At the time of testing I was mainly in the plains region with some trips to Horseshoe Overlook, so I didn't trigger the engine bug while testing for battery life.
It's been quite a while since testing this, but I've been meaning to go back to it, I'll make sure to double-verify my results next time.
Thank you for watching, and for letting me know!
Hello, sorry for being off topic. But I no longer know what to do and where else to look for information. Have you seen a bug with ground textures in RDR2, or maybe you have heard about it? An example of what I'm talking about: in your your video at 23:42. The fact is that I found a lot of mentions of a similar problem, but nowhere is it said about a guaranteed way to solve it. Thank you in advance for your help.
Yes, this is a known interaction of Proton and the RAGE engine that RDR2 uses. Theoretically it can be patched, but I don't think any current version of Proton avoids the issue 😞
My only regret is that I didn’t find this video until the epilogue of the game and played through dozens of hours at an unstable 30fps. This is brilliant!
Thanks for watching! I have yet to get that far, but I can't wait 😄
this is neat! Will be testing some games with this. If I understand correctly, this is more focused on GPU optimization,
but how about tweaks to the cpu as well? for the more cpu-intensive games out there? is such thing possible?
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The answer is yes, and I did do some CPU testing here. In particular, I disabled 2, 4, 6, and 8 cores, disabled SMT, and pinned the CPU at 2, 2.5, 3, and 3.5Ghz to see if there was any benefit 🙂
We don’t have the ability to overclock or under volt just yet, but I hope we get it at some point because I’ll be the first to try it.
The most demanding area in the game is along "little creek river". even when i get 40+ fps in strawberry my frames are destroyed there. especially during sunrise and sunset
Interesting, I haven't completed the game and am only in chapter 3, so the most demanding that I've been to were Strawberry and Saint Denis.
Thank you for watching and letting me know for future videos! 🙏
Hi im trying to revert the process. What is the defailt swappiness value?
The default is 100, I’ll have a follow up video explaining that soon 🙂
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My only problem with medium texture is that when you do poker the cards are so low texture you can barely read
Ah, I hadn't tried poker since I assumed that it wouldn't be a good indicator of performance for the game, interesting. When I go back and re-test, I'll definitely be checking it out for fine details!
Thank you for watching, and I hope that you got better performance from my findings!
You're the best thank you so much! I'm playing it on your recommended settings and it runs like a dream beside the drop fps near water!
One feedback if i may, would be great in the future to also include a recommended settings for docked gameplay on TV ! ❤
Thank you so much for watching! I actually started adding Docked presets in my newer videos, so definitely give those a look for any games you're interested in 😁
Would you still recommend this 2 months later? I just noticed a lot of what u said in the "easy and safe" video seems easier and also more effective just wondering if you've changed stances since then.
The "Easy and Safe" video is definitely more up-to-date in the instruction department, but the findings in this video still hold true 🙂
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@@cryobyte33 just did it and it seems to have gone smoothly thanks!
@@godsent2000 Glad to hear, thanks for watching!
Awesome. Hope we see Gotham Knights now!
Forza Horizon 5 is next, but you never know what the future holds!
Wow this is a great video. Well put together and it shows you put a lot of care and effort into this. Keep it up!
One suggestion/ask is if you could point out some of the differences (if any?) on some of the presets. I know you've listed the graphical settings but I mean more things that you can observe in the game on different settings. Eg on prettiest are there a lot more people in towns? Do puddles still form on the performance setting?
Probably more in the realm of Digital Foundry stuff but it would be interesting to know how different settings can impact that playing experience on the Steam Deck :)
Thank you for watching!
That's a good idea, and I'll see how viable it is in the context of the video's pacing in the future 🙂 The footage in the background is of the respective preset, so you should be able to see some difference in the video already, though!
Thank you for the suggestion, and again for watching, I really appreciate it!
I really like that a lot of tinkering people are doing is helped by the openness of Linux. I can use 'sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=1' and test it out knowing what it does because its a well documented thing. I just hope some of the developers start creating more native version of games though your Rockstar/Ubisoft/EA types I am not sure if they will jump on the bandwagon just yet but the way its running now works pretty well, and is all made possible by enthusiasts working on open source projects.
Agreed! I've been part of the Linux community for 17 years, although mostly offline, and the past year or two has been the most rapid evolution of Linux and FOSS I've ever seen. 😁
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Hey man I’d love if you were to go into how to use the gamemode custom config and or link a page explaining more about it. I want to make the most out of my laptop and this is the only tweak that I feel have the best chance to apply. If I were to put SteamOS on my laptop would any of the other tweaks work?
If you did put SteamOS on the laptop, it would definitely take effect, but it’s hard to know if it would improve performance or not since it’s very hardware dependent 🙂
As for the game mode config, it’s also very hardware dependent but if you email my business email I’ll be happy to send you some quick instructions and the exact config file that I used!
Thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 I'm really considering it. I might get an iso and look and check how it is when I boot into the temp os, check if it has all of the apps. The biggest change will be moving from nobara (fedora-based) to arch, and from GNOME to KDE. I'm considering also trying to get the barebones Steam OS and swapping ou t the kernel and wine for tkg's to see if that brings up performance as well (if 'm able). Than I could try getting more vram and trying the tweaks (including the gamemode config). The annoying thing moving from windows was that linux defaults on 4 gb of vram when windows did 8. I really hope I can increase this and with all my other knowledge of linux make this laptop last ages. Thanks for such consistant engagement with the comments!! I'll report how it goes.
@@Alex-ex5zm Thank you for the update! I'm really interested in how it runs, and I would recommend this build since it's the most "official" github.com/theVakhovskeIsTaken/holoiso 🙂
Any way to get the epic game store version not fail when trying to pick up Rockstar launcher. It would not get passed this and error out when trying to use Heroic. Heroic worked fine for Cyberpunk. But RDR2 won't even boot passed an error trying to boot it through rockstar launcher.
As far as I'm aware, nobody has been able to get non-Steam versions of Red Dead working in the past few months 😞
I think that the Rockstar Launcher uses a hook for DRM that only Steam supports on Linux thus far, but that's just a guess and there's nothing that we players can do about it other than file a bug with Rockstar.
Regardless, thanks for watching! I'm sorry that you're having an issue with the other versions.
Ahhh. Yeah I have GOG Cyberpunk and it works fine through Heroic launcher. Sucks that it won't launch epic.
Thank you CryoByte for all you work.
I got the game to run with DX12 and i've got a lot more performace. The bad thing is that the water and snow doesn't render properly
Thank you for watching! Yeah, DirectX12 is VERY buggy for RDR2 on Steam Deck, and when I tested it didn't allow me to change settings without breaking the entire game 😓 I really hope that R* takes the time to fix it.
Regardless, thank you for watching!
do we really need to put 16gb as swap ? seem high .. on linux we are always half the memory 16gb -> 8gb, another question what is swap file size by defaut and will valve fix it by their own or never ? did they talk at all about the issues ?
They haven't talked about it AFAIK, and 8GB works fine, but 16GB performs better. On Linux we usually recommend half of RAM because the RAM is 100% dedicated to the CPU on traditional systems.
Here on the Deck, we have the GPU using up to 8GB, so you add that to the 8GB recommendation for swap, resulting in 16GB 🙂
Thank you for watching, and let me know if you have any more questions!
@@cryobyte33 oh gpu can use the swap, didnt know 😙
is this vram bug exclusive to rdr2, as far as you know?
Correct, as far as I know it's isolated to Red Dead 2 and only on SteamOS 3.3.2 and higher. I plan to submit a bug report this weekend when I have the time.
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@@cryobyte33 looks like a good reason for me to continue avoiding RDR2 till this gets resolved. I am very impressed at what you were able to pull off with it though. I love the gains I get from your script and recommendations in other games.
@@Latchfpv I think the performance is still very good, so if you want to play I can definitely recommend it. That said, I totally get where you're coming from because it is frustrating 😅
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This is interesting cause I keep getting crashes about 10-15 mins when using 1gb vram bios setting but when put on 4gb it runs fine except near water. I just wanna play smoothly 😭
This is a bug with the RAGE engine that it uses. Rockstar is aware of the issue, but a source tells me that they aren’t putting anymore development effort into the game 😞
Thank you for watching, though!
Thank you! Just installed and it seems I'm getting better fps. I haven't ran a benchmark though.
The benchmark is horribly inaccurate, so definitely test with gameplay 😉
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Hello! Just got a steam deck oled, is there an updated recommended setting for high graphics? I bought a steamdeck oled for red dead redemption2 only. That’s how much I love this game! And I really value pretty settings over battery life. Please please please guide us thank you!
Thank you so much for this guide and the swap fix, i think you should make a short video for the updated version, so people don't wear out their ssd for nothing
Thank you for the idea, I might be able to piece together an updated "Easy performance boosts" video with some existing footage and the explanations, if you think that would make sense?
Thanks for watching!
Wow, superb content thanks! My deck is on its way and you've already covered 4 of the big games I'll be playing on it, so looking forward to getting some decent performance :)
Thank you for watching, let me know how you like it when it comes in 🙂
I’ll be playing red dead 2 on my steam deck soon, is this useless if I already have your recent cryotilities 2.0 set up?
The in-game settings here still apply, but the swap resize and swappiness settings are moot.
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@@cryobyte33 going to try these settings with cryotilities 2.0 today after work. Thanks Kyle
I remember reading about the VRAM thing in the early days of the Steam deck. 1gb is basically 'auto' in steam OS so it's recommended to leave it. 4gb is recommended for Windows though as it has no access to adjust on the fly.
However I've definitely seen some improvements using 4gb in steam OS in some games..
Correct, 1GB SHOULD be the ideal, but my testing shows that 4GB performs marginally better in most games. There's a big explanation in my "EASY & SAFE Health & Performance Boosts" video if you want to check it out, but the TL;DR is that it's not performing correctly since the CPU can evict VRAM at will.
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@@cryobyte33 awesome man I'll take a look 👍
Custom boot video....... hmmmmm
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