Ok..! Rick researches and determines the exact guitar, finds one, buys it, ...recreates studio ambience AND has enough ear to figure out Page is banging near the back bridge...etc, etc.... All this just blows my mind.. Beato is some kind of an amazing dude... LOVE IT....!!!!!
Buys the WRONG guitar. The one Page used was not a Vox, nor was it an Eko: it was an E-ROS 606 Dakota. Also made in Italy, and E-Ros was founded by two brothers who used to build the Eko Ranger/Vox Country Western acoustics, but they actually set up shop somewhere else and with a few differences. The E-ROS logo had a triangle under the writing which can be mistaken for the V in the vertical Vox logo in a blurry picture such as the one Beato referenced. I myself found an E-ROS 606 in a junk shop in a very sorry state, snapped it up for the princely sum of 15 Euros, fixed it and it's a surprisingly great sounding guitar for recording strummed accompaniment parts!
I think Ramble On is a true display of the raw sounds that each of the members of LZ brought to the table. Page, Bonham, Plant, and Jones are true legends of their instruments!
@@aafjeyakubu5124 I know, right. I mean, it is such a good example of the dept of the sound analysis done here. Just to recognize a particular acoustic guitar model by ear is beyond me, doing that in the context of a post produced and mastered tape recording and figuring out the way it was strummed is a whole other level.
that would be basic guitar awareness (different tone/sound produced by where you strum it) not so much years of experience. And his friend identified the guitar by the picture and not by ear. And I don't think Jimmy strummed the guitar away from the sound hole so the microphone would pick up more sound. He did so to get a different sound out of the guitar.
Rick, you’re a national treasure. The amount of time, effort, expense, and passion you put into videos like this is nothing short of heroic. This particular guitar part really struck a nostalgic nerve, but watching you bang away at duplicating the sound was my treat for the day. We’re probably twin sons of different mothers, except I’m way older than you! One of my greatest pleasures in life has been the hours I spent crawling around the innards of a piece a piece of music and learning how the nuts and bolts work together to produce the magic that attracted me to it. Thank you for all you do! Stay well.
Friday Fret Works has done a couple, but he's focused on electric guitar... expanding this to other instruments would be a very useful thing, even if you don't want to get exactly "that" sound... just to point you in a different creative direction!!
Absolutely agree! Doctor Mix does deconstruction/reconstruction videos on his channel occasionally, and I find them SO interesting. Picking a song apart, just like with "What Makes This Song Great" gives a whole new level of appreciation for music and the work that goes into creating it.
@@RickBeato Hi Rick. Just finished watching this video over a few times. I have an EKO Ranger Xll jumbo from new many years ago (I'm 70 yo now and had it since I was about 19 yo). It is Italian made and looks identical to the Vox. Shape, scratch plate ( which was destroyed by winter frosts in the boot of my car) bridge (yes adjustable too but 12 string ) ,also with the bolted backplate. Everything about that guitar sounds like mine even to this day ( Even better now imo ). It has quite a few dings in it too. Cracks from the cold overnight frost put cracks in the thick lacquered finish. Many years ago I discovered one of my fav bands called Family had a great guitarist called Charley (John ) Whitney and he played the same guitar as mine. I never knew this at the time until my brother pointed it out to me. (not sure if his was 12 or six string but the 12 string sounds much better imo ) I compared the two guitars because my sister bought the 6 string version year after. The likeness is uncanny to the Vox. I'm from the UK and now in Australia for 17 years. Even though the scratchplate is no longer there, The outline of the glue where it was is clearly visible. Is the Vox Italian made by any chance? It would be an interesting thing to find out maybe. Thanks for making those outstanding videos. He plays the 12 string on his Streetwalkers band on a track called My Friend the sun. Hope you like them. Roger Chapman one of my singing heroes was leader of both Family and Streetwalkers. :)
The song is nearly unrecognizable without it. JPJ is an absolute musical genius. I've been playing for 35 years and, in my opinion, this is not only his best work but one of the top 5 best rock basslines of all time.
As strange as it may sound, the bass makes this song great as does the bass in Duran Durban’s Planet Earth. Completely different songs but equivalent impact.
Fun fact, such a masterpiece was recorded using one of the cheapest and most common guitars made in Italy: Vox acoustics were produced by Eko ("made in Italy" during those years was the same as "made in China" nowadays), using everything except solid woods and were the most affordable string instruments avaible here in Italy from the 60's to the late 80's. I can say that almost every teenager from my times (I'm 45) has cursed the project of the bolt on neck for it's instability and has been grateful to the company for selling the perfect instrument for beach serenades (thick varnish, bolt on bridge, plywood) and summer loves. Long life to these old babies and thanks, Maestro Beato, for your priceless job!
Felice Zaccheo interesting. I just commented that I have an Eko Ranger that looks and sounds just like the one in the video. And yes to the thick varnish. You could paddle a boat all day and not bother it. Ha
@@zaum2002 Actually the "Ranger" model by Eko is the same guitar: I still have a 12 strings "Electra", equipped with a magnetic pickup, the "official" 12 strings in Italy during the 70's 🙂
@@Geotubest 100% true! Also, sometimes in music production there's need for non conventional sounds and that's why I still have my Eko and lots of other cheap sisters from the past
As soon as you started strumming closer to the bridge the Sound and the tone was spot on. I don’t know anything about music or what you’re talking about but I always understand you. Thats why I watch almost every video. Thanks.
@@TieDyeKitty It's nothing more than sad as fuck. Peopl e need to go write some music and record it however, stop fucking trying to recreate stuff that people just made in the past just as it was!!!
It's not the guitar that Jimmy used. Page's was an E-ROS guitar from Italy. It's in the Light And Shade book. That is also not the right microphone, but Rick got an ok tone.
I've been thinking non-stop about this lately after your Ramble On video. My jaw is on the floor because you actually cared as much as I did about the acoustic part. What a strange, beautiful world we live in. Thanks for making it a little brighter, Rick.
Jimmy produced the albums and basically directed the band in the studio. He knew what he wanted the band to sound like. Obviously he was very meticulous about how each instrument would sound its best on a recording, even down to micing Bonham's drums properly in the studio. Every Zep fan knows Jimmy spent years as a session guitarist, and appeared on famous artists' albums before he joined The Yardbirds. He gained a lot of knowledge in the studio during that period and used everything to his advantage.
You'll never see this Rick, but for posterity and the record, I had such a blast sitting here in my Covid Livingroom with a Taylor 214ce DLX and it's bolt-on neck, nailing every move you and Jimmy made. So much fun!!! You'd be howling with gales of laughter. I am 67 and never stopped playing from that Avatar Pic on the left at age 4 until forever...Thanks, you are so much good for all of us!
lots of treble, just enough fuzz to get sustain, and a bit of slap delay, I'd imagine. That's what I did, I have a cover on my channel that I think gets pretty close
@@alessio8455 Thank you, I'll post Whole Lotta Love today too if ppl are into it. I just never get traffic. Would it be worth putting up a tone tutorials on my channel? I use ZERO fancy plugins everything is very simple
Matthew Kwiatkowski interesting fact about the piano, they applied rising gain as the piano sustain started to fade. All Beatles played the same ending chord on the piano. You can hear the gain increase to the point where you can hear Ringo’s chair creak at the end as he shifts.
think a vst that could do what Rick dose here two tracks target and emulation, suggest add EQ too here more less compression, longer tail on your reverb in a smaller room mixed back 35%wet ect \
Rick,I always enjoy your stuff. Big fan. Someone asked me what you do and i couldnt really answer. Until you said "producer" I had not a clue. I said to my friend that you are a music analyst, theorist. Now that I know that you are Producer I can look you up and see what you have done. I was kind of jelous seeing all of your instruments and had to ask myself " why does this guy have all these great instruments"? Now I know. Love all of your toys and your analytic mind. We are going to lose most of our knowledge of how to get these classic sounds and without people like you Rick B, a lot of the great stuff will just be listened to instead of their tricks passed on to the next generation. Your "stuff" is valuable. Keep up your work.
Here's to hoping you get to interview Jimmy Page someday! He would probably love all that you do and certainly all the Zeppelin stuff that you've done which is top notch!
My dad owned one of those guitars for as long as I can remember. Here in the Nederlands it has a different brand name. Over here it’s a Eko guitar and the model name is Ranger. It was made in Italy in the 60s. The Vox acoustic was essentially a rebadged Eko guitar. I learned to play guitar on it as a kid and when my dad passed away on new year’s eve 2018, I inherited the guitar. I will charish that guitar for as long as I live. My dad’s birthday is 19th of august, the same date as when this video was uploaded. He would of turned 75 this year. Ramble on is also one of my favourite Led Zeppelin songes. Thanks Rick for all your video’s. Especially this one. Cheers!
I recognized it immediately. I bought my Ranger 6 back in the '60s when In was 17 and it's been with me ever since. Until now I never realized they sold them under the Vox label, but the guitars are prety much identical, though this one doesn't have the lovely quilted wood mine has. Hard to believe he played Ramble on using a guitar mostly made for teenagers.
Yep, same pickguard, bolt on neck fittings, cracked super thick lacquer, zero fret and wide, flat bridge as my Eko Ranger 12. The only other song I'm aware of that was recorded with an Eko is Stealers Wheel's Stuck in the Middle with You. And yep, with the factory fitted, almost lipstick style pickup it can sound a lot like a solid body, especially when strung as a 6. Bought mine 2nd hand 15 years before my son was born, he's now 18 and will get it in turn when i go.
yes i think that my father also had the same guitar, i remember the EKO name on the headstock, i now own a rebadged EKO Ranger, a 12 string version which also has the same kind of cracks on the back and near to neck
@@shythylacine Wow, another surprise. You always think they record these famous songs with Martins and Gibsons. Eko's motto was, "90 percent of the sound of a Martin, 10 percent of the price." Mine has some spectacular finish cracks after a college friend left it in his car for a whole day in below-zero temps. But it still chugs on. I mostly use it to play slide these days.
Page is not using a Vox acoustic. But he’s using essentially the same one, which is also the same as an Eko Ranger. Page is using one branded by E-Ros, who actually were the ones contracted in Italy to make all the aforementioned guitars.
"What Makes This Sound Great" would indeed be a great forensic series to make, Rick. It would be cool to do it as old school as possible (i.e., without the reliance on modern plugins until the very last to finish dialing it in).
Ramble On is my favorite Zeppelin tune. I’m glad you pay so much attention to it... And you are such a sound and gear nerd, I f* love it!! Yeah I mostly heard more top-end 12k on Jimmy and you fixed that. I didn’t notice initially but you are dead-on that going closer to the bridge picked up the rhythmic clicking he got with the pick sound. By the end you totally got it! Frickin’ love this tune! Find myself listening to more Rain Song as time goes on though too-Rain Song doesn’t get enough love-really cool harmonies. “I’ve got a Gibson, without a case, and I can’t even get that even-tanned look on my face”🤣🤣
Jimmy Page is the kind of guy that would take a few minutes to talk with RIck on a video call and discuss the "strumming near the bridge" element. He looks a bit cold but I think he has a good heart when he's in a good mood.
We all hear differently, so this this was a significant Beato YT for me. I heard major differences between Page's guitar and Rick's first pass. Then in the pro tools "remix" he dialed the two sounds together perfectly (to my ears). This is huge for me because we "hear" the same. Also, his insight into picking closer to the bridge.... Thanks to Rick Beato for his sound engineering, and to YT for their streaming quality. They get slagged a lot, but with good source material they deliver. To a musician, bad sound really hurts.
I'd love to see you give a go at recreating Alex Lifeson's tones on Hemispheres (the song), specifically his solo tones. It's really similar in vibe to Eddy's phased/flanged tones on VH1. Both came out in '78, so maybe there's a bit of inspiration going back and forth hahaha. Nice work on recreating the R.O. sound, too. Great stuff. Learn something about recording every time I watch.
The first time I threw my dad's Hemispheres LP on the turntable, I was blown away by that sound. So rich and massive sounding. It would be amazing to have that broken down. The closest I've gotten with my Axe-FX II is using an Electric Mistress flanger type sound blended with the dry signal from a combination of a Marshall Plexi and Hiwatt DR103. Obviously the original was at least double tracked, possibly quad tracked, so it'll never be perfect but it gets me very close.
I love Led Zeppelin and "Ramble On" is a favorite. This recreation brought us closer to the moment of creation, including the specific guitar and microphone he used. I have to agree with the comment below that a breakdown of Jimmy Page's playing on "Stairway to Heaven" leading up to Robert Plant belting out the verse, "And as we wind on down the road , Our shadows taller than our soul..." would be much appreciated. It's an anthem for a reason.
The solo from “Jamie’s Got A Gun”. For years I thought it was in a resonator but I found out it was a Chet Atkins narrow body electro acoustic. I f€cking love that sound so much.
I would like to see you recreate the guitar tone from Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream, particularly the solo from Cherub Rock. The tone on that record is a deceptively simple fuzz tone but always seems like it was just a pinch away from feeding back and sounded so raw.
Tone that I wanna see recreated: Yours Is No Disgrace by Yes. Chris Squire's bass tone changed my outlook on life. Thanks for Ramble On, the Zep song that changed my outlook on life too.
Hey Rick, love Zeppelin and love the depth that you get into recreating the sonics of Page's acoustic tone here from the subtle playing to the production, definitely looking forward to more from this series (hope you make this segment a regular thing)! This may be a long shot but I would love it if you could recreate some sounds from Bob Marley and the Wailers -- he had one of the most progressive reggae bands and a KILLER lineup in the late 70's (I highly recommend checking out his performance in Dortmund, Germany in 1980 which I believe to be one of their best shows). It would be really cool if you could dissect any of the tones, playing, production -- ANYTHING -- from that live performance or from Uprising, which is the last album he recorded before he died as they utilize a wide range of instruments (regular use of synthesizers, clavinet; percussion, guitar), tones (tons of envelope filters, clean and overdriven guitar tones) and interesting polyrhythms. I think analyzing late Marley specifically would make for an interesting addition to your content because his music merged the old school reggae ethos with the "modern" British production style of the era and I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions on anything/everything on that matter! Thanks again for your time and consideration and hope you have a great week, Elvin
Jimmy also played Eko Acoustics too, you can find pictures of him with a 12 string from the 60's. The Vox V238 Country Western guitar was manufactured for Vox by the Italian guitar manufacturer, Eko. The Vox Country Western was essentially a rebadged Eko Ranger 6 guitar (which I have).
I'd like to see a recreation of Angus' sound when he plays that opening A power chord in Shoot to Thrill. Actually the whole Back In Black album Angus' sound is just so pure rock 'n roll. So the whole album would be even better, haha! I can never seem to nail that sound, might be in the fingers after all ;)
That 'slide' sound is a little more pronounced on Jimmy's guitar. But you nailed it. You are doing God's work, Rick. I hope this becomes a recurring series. I would love to see you re-create that *'bee-buzz' guitar sound of Justin Hayward's 1963 Gibson ES-335* on many of the Moody Blues songs. example: You and Me (Seventh Sojourn 1972)
I gave a thumbs up for that idea. My favourite solo ever. If you like that sound then listen to Be Bop Deluxe, Adventures on a Yorkshire Landscape. Which one came first?
Rick, your work on this is great. Who knew it was this particular guitar. I’m actually working with my guitar teacher on the main riff of this song and we’re still trying to figure out exactly what Jimmy is doing. The only difference I hear is on the A cord in 5th position phrase, Jimmy sounds like he’s resolving back to a root A chord. In your version I hear an open string which sounds different than Jimmy’s version. Other than that you are spot on with your feel on recreating the sound.
I've been a musician my whole life. I've always wanted to do this. Rick is THE MAN! I'd love to hear Rick recreate Jonesy's bass tone on "Heartbreaker." Or "Houses of the Holy" (the song on Physical Graffiti) I'm pretty sure he is playing his mid 50s P-bass on the latter. Keep up the fantastic work/videos!
Average day for Rick is more like, "Ahm, i think i will spend a gabillion dollars on something because i have a hunch." I wish i grew up to be Rick! Damn! He nailed it!
That strum part really is not really that difficult. Any competent guitar player could pull it off very accurately with ten minutes of practice. Although Page is a very creative player, his technical skill has always been somewhat limited.
As suggestions for future videos: Moonlight Drive, Doors, Robby's slide guitar Something, Beatles, George's intro I want you (she's so heavy), dito American Woman, Guess Who, the singing guitar solo Around the world, RHCP, Flea's intro Son-of-a Preacher Man, Dusty Springfield, whoever hits that snare so juicily
That picture is when Jimmy was recording a song that never made it on the record called LaLa. This was revealed by him in an interview with Jeff Koons. It was released on the remasters last song on the second disc of Led Zeppelin II. Having said that I'm sure he probably used the same guitar for Ramble On as it was "around". However, from the look of the headstock logo it looks to be an Eko which is the same guitar under a different label.
I've read that it was an Eko Ranger, but there is also an interview which says Jimmy used his Harmony Sovereign H1260 on Ramble On. We may never know for sure but it makes for some great stories and reading!
The photo was from Olympic Studios in London (LaLa was recorded there) and Ramble On was recorded a few months later in Groove Sound in NY. It was most likely a different guitar and mic
@@Cpt_Adama I did not know that Jimmy played an EKO Ranger on stage. What tour was that on ? I know he played em in the studio - I don't recall seeing live pics of one.
as soon as Rick played it closer to the bridge, he had it. thats the sound right there. i was hoping to see how identical his piece would have been to Jimmy’s had he recorded it closer to the bridge.
@@AnnaLaug Many animals sing. It is said, "that whale songs are unique to that specific animal". Meaning, "they wrote their own lyrics". Maybe something worth thinking about.
This may be the most brilliant TH-cam channel. Listening to the two tracks, I am wondering if Pagey was using a lighter gauge pick than you're using. You've made my week with this video.
I’ve always been drawn to this song and have tinkered with it for the past 5 decades. I’ve always thought of it as a simple vamp between E and Asus chords. But the melody seems to be a blend of E pentatonic and E mixolydian scales. Brilliant! My admiration for Jimmy Page continues to grow.
I have a theory about this. My guess is that Rick is using D'addario Phosphor Bronze strings (in an earlier video he said his new go to string is a set of PB .12s). Phosphor Bronze strings weren't invented until the mid seventies. I'd wager Page had his strung with 80/20 bronze strings in that recording session. And to my ear, that accounts for most of that difference, as that alloy tends to be a little brighter on the top end. And there's just a slightly different tonality to them than Phosphor Bronze strings, and I hear it in Page's original tone. I'm just one of those guys that's really geeky about acoustic guitar tones in particular. I hope my theory is interesting to someone out there! To end this rambling, 2020 sucks, I'm sure glad I can unplug and watch nerdy music videos at one in the morning with y'all. Lmao
LOVE LOVE LOVE!!! Jimmy Page is my absolute favorite, I clicked this video so fast, replayed it so fast, slowed it down to mimic your strumming. I had to pause and sit outside because it has shown me that Jimmy thinks of the strings as halfs, top and bottom. If you have seen him live, his upstrokes are so leisure. There is a down stroke where he picks at and then strums, like a mexican mariachi guitarist. Analyzing Mr Page has you mesmerized. Jeez. My request! Pink Floyd's Time, specifically the solo a little after the 3rd minute. The single notes would be easy to find the replication. Only, its David Gilmour, the complexity is him. I would like to see that my good sir.
This was awesome. You need to have a Ph.D from MIT to compose? I think the most impactful advance Rick made to mimic Jimmy’s sound is when he realized that he needed to strum closer to the bridge.
I was thinking about difference between the strings when you played closer to the bridge. You totally got it. EDIT: I removed the part from blocking. My bad.
Two things: 1. Pretty close, I think yours could use a bit more "air" in the top. 2. As far as recreating a particular sound: Alex Van Halen's snare. Particularly from Women and Children First.
Tune your high E string down a full step to D. Place your slide at the 10th fret. Pick the E (now tuned to D) and B strings, and slide down to the 9th fret. Add some distortion, phaser, chorus, reverb and delay to this recipe, and . . . Bob's your uncle!
The way you hear and analyse any song and then just jump on pretty much any instrument and play it pretty much perfectly just blows me away! I think your skills are as good as anyone's Rick!
3 things come to my mind (and ears) ;) 1. As somebody mentioned here about the guitar: E.Ros Dakota 606 (pickguard and headstock match) 2. Is it possible Jimmy used a thin pick as well? 3. Is it possible that a room condenser mic was also blended in with the D30? Love the new episodes!
This guitar was also branded and sold as an Eko Ranger, exactly the same as the Vox. The guitar in the picture that page is playing is also sometimes listed/described as an Eko Ranger.
Really? I inherited an eco-6 string from an old girlfriend in the 80s and it was a total pig to play and mostly sounded pants. Granted I’m not Jimmy Page but even so!
This is amazing! Would love to hear “Over the hills and far away” live 1972 I think it was in Long Beach, CA. Before it was on the album, it was electric and rocked out, not acoustic. That guitar tone is amazing! 🤘
Right on Rick. Yeah this is one of my favorite Zep songs ... from that era. You could cover more of the Zep tunes in future vids .... Boston had some of the greatest guitar tones back in the 70s ... that too.
Hey Rick, great job! I'm really impressed with how close you got here. Continuing along the vein of acoustics I've always been struck by the beauty and depth of Greg Lake's acoustic sound in ELP's From the Beginning. I suspect there is some technique going on there that might be tough to recreate but the sound itself (with some double-tracking) strikes me as unique as well. Cheers.
Would love to see “Recreating The Sound” as a new series!
Yes PLEASE!
Great idea. I think he'll pick up on it.
Yessss! I'd love to hear many artist on this series!
Yes
cliffs of dover would be nice
Oh man - this 'mimic the sound' could be a whole series onto itself! I love it.
To the top people!great idea!
This is it chief
Good idea
It already is. Outstanding idea and execution by Rick, as usual. 🙂
Oh yeah!
Ok..! Rick researches and determines the exact guitar, finds one, buys it, ...recreates studio ambience AND has enough ear to figure out Page is banging near the back bridge...etc, etc....
All this just blows my mind.. Beato is some kind of an amazing dude...
LOVE IT....!!!!!
Rick has a passing curiosity about a song; goes out and buys the guitar.
I don't think passing curiosity quite covers it.
Mania.
Very cool detective work. Valuable.
I know. Right 😁
Buys the WRONG guitar.
The one Page used was not a Vox, nor was it an Eko: it was an E-ROS 606 Dakota.
Also made in Italy, and E-Ros was founded by two brothers who used to build the Eko Ranger/Vox Country Western acoustics, but they actually set up shop somewhere else and with a few differences.
The E-ROS logo had a triangle under the writing which can be mistaken for the V in the vertical Vox logo in a blurry picture such as the one Beato referenced.
I myself found an E-ROS 606 in a junk shop in a very sorry state, snapped it up for the princely sum of 15 Euros, fixed it and it's a surprisingly great sounding guitar for recording strummed accompaniment parts!
I think Ramble On is a true display of the raw sounds that each of the members of LZ brought to the table. Page, Bonham, Plant, and Jones are true legends of their instruments!
The trick with Rick’s videos is to watch them immediately...before the take-down. Lol
lol Good point Visionland Music
This wins the Internet today!!!
That was my thought, exactly!
Lol...'specially when he plays known blockers
@@hammill444 It's often the label, and not the artists who own the rights. Paul McCartney got outbid on the rights to the Beatles' catalog....
Rick can actually tell where Jimmy strums on the strings just by hearing, that is what sheer experience gives you. Amazing
I'm plain dumbstruck by that. Been "playing" (read: maj scale noodling) for 4 or 5 years now and this is just a whole new bracket of skill
The strings definitely sound different depending on where they are struck, but hearing that in the tapes is a skill I'm going to have to work on.
@@aafjeyakubu5124 I know, right. I mean, it is such a good example of the dept of the sound analysis done here. Just to recognize a particular acoustic guitar model by ear is beyond me, doing that in the context of a post produced and mastered tape recording and figuring out the way it was strummed is a whole other level.
Yeah I'm sure Rick is right, and guessing that Jimmy wanted to keep his hand away from the sound hole so the mike would pick up more sound
that would be basic guitar awareness (different tone/sound produced by where you strum it) not so much years of experience. And his friend identified the guitar by the picture and not by ear. And I don't think Jimmy strummed the guitar away from the sound hole so the microphone would pick up more sound. He did so to get a different sound out of the guitar.
Rick, you’re a national treasure. The amount of time, effort, expense, and passion you put into videos like this is nothing short of heroic.
This particular guitar part really struck a nostalgic nerve, but watching you bang away at duplicating the sound was my treat for the day. We’re probably twin sons of different mothers, except I’m way older than you! One of my greatest pleasures in life has been the hours I spent crawling around the innards of a piece a piece of music and learning how the nuts and bolts work together to produce the magic that attracted me to it. Thank you for all you do! Stay well.
Cool comment. And agree, only for me Rick is like the cool neighbor down the street with all the cool gear i want to learn about from the music store.
... to me music doesn’t have “ nuts and bolts” , but rather artistic and poetic components that verge upon life and nature itself...
This Recreating the Sound thing would be a really cool series.
Friday Fret Works has done a couple, but he's focused on electric guitar... expanding this to other instruments would be a very useful thing, even if you don't want to get exactly "that" sound... just to point you in a different creative direction!!
Absolutely agree! Doctor Mix does deconstruction/reconstruction videos on his channel occasionally, and I find them SO interesting. Picking a song apart, just like with "What Makes This Song Great" gives a whole new level of appreciation for music and the work that goes into creating it.
As a bass player Ramble On was a major teaching point on melody. I'd love to see the recreation of JPJ bass line. Very cool video.
John's Bass really sets the mood on that track....He's Incredible
One of the rare songs where you hum the bass line first when it’s stuck in your head.
You can see Rick enjoys every second of his job
I love this!
@@RickBeato And we love it too!
@@RickBeato Hi Rick. Just finished watching this video over a few times. I have an EKO Ranger Xll jumbo from new many years ago (I'm 70 yo now and had it since I was about 19 yo). It is Italian made and looks identical to the Vox. Shape, scratch plate ( which was destroyed by winter frosts in the boot of my car) bridge (yes adjustable too but 12 string ) ,also with the bolted backplate. Everything about that guitar sounds like mine even to this day ( Even better now imo ). It has quite a few dings in it too. Cracks from the cold overnight frost put cracks in the thick lacquered finish.
Many years ago I discovered one of my fav bands called Family had a great guitarist called Charley (John ) Whitney and he played the same guitar as mine. I never knew this at the time until my brother pointed it out to me. (not sure if his was 12 or six string but the 12 string sounds much better imo ) I compared the two guitars because my sister bought the 6 string version year after. The likeness is uncanny to the Vox. I'm from the UK and now in Australia for 17 years. Even though the scratchplate is no longer there, The outline of the glue where it was is clearly visible. Is the Vox Italian made by any chance? It would be an interesting thing to find out maybe. Thanks for making those outstanding videos. He plays the 12 string on his Streetwalkers band on a track called My Friend the sun. Hope you like them. Roger Chapman one of my singing heroes was leader of both Family and Streetwalkers. :)
We enjoy watching.
That unbridled enthusiasm is what brings me back to Rick's videos. Bravo!!!
Though not being a musician myself it seems that John Paul Jones's bass really drove this tune, it was like a driving force.
The song is nearly unrecognizable without it. JPJ is an absolute musical genius. I've been playing for 35 years and, in my opinion, this is not only his best work but one of the top 5 best rock basslines of all time.
As a bass player I agree!
100% right
Bassist here, this is my favorite LZ song :)
As strange as it may sound, the bass makes this song great as does the bass in Duran Durban’s Planet Earth. Completely different songs but equivalent impact.
Fun fact, such a masterpiece was recorded using one of the cheapest and most common guitars made in Italy: Vox acoustics were produced by Eko ("made in Italy" during those years was the same as "made in China" nowadays), using everything except solid woods and were the most affordable string instruments avaible here in Italy from the 60's to the late 80's. I can say that almost every teenager from my times (I'm 45) has cursed the project of the bolt on neck for it's instability and has been grateful to the company for selling the perfect instrument for beach serenades (thick varnish, bolt on bridge, plywood) and summer loves. Long life to these old babies and thanks, Maestro Beato, for your priceless job!
Felice Zaccheo interesting. I just commented that I have an Eko Ranger that looks and sounds just like the one in the video. And yes to the thick varnish. You could paddle a boat all day and not bother it. Ha
@@zaum2002 Actually the "Ranger" model by Eko is the same guitar: I still have a 12 strings "Electra", equipped with a magnetic pickup, the "official" 12 strings in Italy during the 70's 🙂
Wow, that's very interesting. Goes to show that it's not the guitar, it's the player that makes the magic happen.
@@Geotubest 100% true! Also, sometimes in music production there's need for non conventional sounds and that's why I still have my Eko and lots of other cheap sisters from the past
No surprise there. Hand John Mayer a $100 Squire strat and he'll still sound exactly like John Mayer. It's about the player, not the expensive guitar
The three back-to-back-to-back Hendrix solos on "All Along the Watchtower". That needs some analysis.
well, i guess we can go straight to god level then!
Oh great idea
Agree. And also the intro rhythm guitar...
Songful Music Of Songs I think that’s Dave Mason on a 12-string when he did sessions with Hendrix on Electricladyland..
Pink Floyd's 'Dogs' from 4m50s to 6m50, particularly the electric guitar solo there
what about it?
@@matth9321 where you listening to what Rick says at the end you doofus?
As soon as you started strumming closer to the bridge the Sound and the tone was spot on. I don’t know anything about music or what you’re talking about but I always understand you. Thats why I watch almost every video. Thanks.
This is the episode i knew i wanted that i never knew that i wanted that i want.
Can’t believe you bought the guitar needed to recreate the sound! Too cool. Love your videos.
It's nothing more than pure dedication to the artform, great work indeed.
@@TieDyeKitty It's nothing more than sad as fuck. Peopl e need to go write some music and record it however, stop fucking trying to recreate stuff that people just made in the past just as it was!!!
@@V081WLBlue sad as fuck. wow.
It's not the guitar that Jimmy used. Page's was an E-ROS guitar from Italy. It's in the Light And Shade book. That is also not the right microphone, but Rick got an ok tone.
@@V081WLBluesounds like you're questioning Rick's passion for all things musical. It's his life. You do you, bud...
I've been thinking non-stop about this lately after your Ramble On video. My jaw is on the floor because you actually cared as much as I did about the acoustic part. What a strange, beautiful world we live in. Thanks for making it a little brighter, Rick.
I feel like Jimmy did a lot of work in the studio to master the guitar sounds on the albums...recreating his sound is pretty amazing
Jimmy produced the albums and basically directed the band in the studio. He knew what he wanted the band to sound like. Obviously he was very meticulous about how each instrument would sound its best on a recording, even down to micing Bonham's drums properly in the studio. Every Zep fan knows Jimmy spent years as a session guitarist, and appeared on famous artists' albums before he joined The Yardbirds. He gained a lot of knowledge in the studio during that period and used everything to his advantage.
Recreate the sound of my wife telling me, *" no, you can't have a drum room".*
Low pass filter will take care of that.
Evry teim I crie 😢
*rustling of divorce papers hitting the nightstand*
Papi Thads thats only if he doesnt listen, and i mean who wouldnt? That’s just crazy
No one wants to hear that.
You'll never see this Rick, but for posterity and the record, I had such a blast sitting here in my Covid Livingroom with a Taylor 214ce DLX and it's bolt-on neck, nailing every move you and Jimmy made. So much fun!!! You'd be howling with gales of laughter. I am 67 and never stopped playing from that Avatar Pic on the left at age 4 until forever...Thanks, you are so much good for all of us!
The tone on jimmy’s stairway solo. Always loved how the sound of the solo comes in. Reminds me of rainfall bursting free from storm clouds.
lots of treble, just enough fuzz to get sustain, and a bit of slap delay, I'd imagine. That's what I did, I have a cover on my channel that I think gets pretty close
@@mattbacon285 Just Watched it, awesome stuff!! Tone was spot on
@@alessio8455 Thank you, I'll post Whole Lotta Love today too if ppl are into it. I just never get traffic. Would it be worth putting up a tone tutorials on my channel? I use ZERO fancy plugins everything is very simple
@@mattbacon285 i'd be sure to watch
alessio awesome. It’s processing now. Please subscribe and it’ll be up in a few minutes. Stairway has been up for a year or so already
The snare in Tomorrow Never Knows. Such a wonderful snap that holds together the washy cymbals.
I always liked that. Had that kind of ‘proto-breakbeat’ thing going on, similar to what Silver Apples did a few years later.
I would definitely love to know how they got Ringo's cymbals to ring out for days on day in the life
Matthew Kwiatkowski interesting fact about the piano, they applied rising gain as the piano sustain started to fade. All Beatles played the same ending chord on the piano. You can hear the gain increase to the point where you can hear Ringo’s chair creak at the end as he shifts.
It wouldn't be complete if you didn't do the tom in that beat as well.
"Ramble'On" baited an instant click, and, yes, you nailed it.
RICK!!! MAKE THIS A SERIES. you are talented enough musician to do pull it off
Wow I think you just invented ‘Forensic Musicology’
yeah! although it would be more something like 'contemporary music archaeology'
Was thinking the same thing
think a vst that could do what Rick dose here two tracks target and emulation, suggest add EQ too here more less compression, longer tail on your reverb in a smaller room mixed back 35%wet ect
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Next week: digging Jango’s grave for answers
Rick,I always enjoy your stuff. Big fan. Someone asked me what you do and i couldnt really answer. Until you said "producer" I had not a clue. I said to my friend that you are a music analyst, theorist. Now that I know that you are Producer I can look you up and see what you have done. I was kind of jelous seeing all of your instruments and had to ask myself " why does this guy have all these great instruments"? Now I know. Love all of your toys and your analytic mind. We are going to lose most of our knowledge of how to get these classic sounds and without people like you Rick B, a lot of the great stuff will just be listened to instead of their tricks passed on to the next generation. Your "stuff" is valuable. Keep up your work.
Recreate Andy Summers guitar sound on Synchronicity II.
Amen!
THANK YOU
THIS
Good call!
Here's to hoping you get to interview Jimmy Page someday! He would probably love all that you do and certainly all the Zeppelin stuff that you've done which is top notch!
My dad owned one of those guitars for as long as I can remember. Here in the Nederlands it has a different brand name. Over here it’s a Eko guitar and the model name is Ranger. It was made in Italy in the 60s. The Vox acoustic was essentially a rebadged Eko guitar.
I learned to play guitar on it as a kid and when my dad passed away on new year’s eve 2018, I inherited the guitar. I will charish that guitar for as long as I live.
My dad’s birthday is 19th of august, the same date as when this video was uploaded. He would of turned 75 this year.
Ramble on is also one of my favourite Led Zeppelin songes. Thanks Rick for all your video’s. Especially this one. Cheers!
I recognized it immediately. I bought my Ranger 6 back in the '60s when In was 17 and it's been with me ever since. Until now I never realized they sold them under the Vox label, but the guitars are prety much identical, though this one doesn't have the lovely quilted wood mine has. Hard to believe he played Ramble on using a guitar mostly made for teenagers.
Yep, same pickguard, bolt on neck fittings, cracked super thick lacquer, zero fret and wide, flat bridge as my Eko Ranger 12. The only other song I'm aware of that was recorded with an Eko is Stealers Wheel's Stuck in the Middle with You. And yep, with the factory fitted, almost lipstick style pickup it can sound a lot like a solid body, especially when strung as a 6.
Bought mine 2nd hand 15 years before my son was born, he's now 18 and will get it in turn when i go.
yes i think that my father also had the same guitar, i remember the EKO name on the headstock,
i now own a rebadged EKO Ranger, a 12 string version which also has the same kind of cracks on the back and near to neck
@@shythylacine Wow, another surprise. You always think they record these famous songs with Martins and Gibsons. Eko's motto was, "90 percent of the sound of a Martin, 10 percent of the price." Mine has some spectacular finish cracks after a college friend left it in his car for a whole day in below-zero temps. But it still chugs on. I mostly use it to play slide these days.
Thank you Ronald. Heartfelt story!
Page is not using a Vox acoustic. But he’s using essentially the same one, which is also the same as an Eko Ranger. Page is using one branded by E-Ros, who actually were the ones contracted in Italy to make all the aforementioned guitars.
Definitely when you strummed closer to the bridge it mimicked Jimmy's tone. sounded great!!
Yes - it gave it that bright, lively ring that was clear in Jimmy's rendition. You nailed it in the end.
Yes, the sound was brighter. Even when Rick tweaked the eq setting, it still wasn't quite right. Closer to the bridge definitely helped
"What Makes This Sound Great" would indeed be a great forensic series to make, Rick. It would be cool to do it as old school as possible (i.e., without the reliance on modern plugins until the very last to finish dialing it in).
Oh man - Chris Squires on the 1971 “ Yes” album - best integrated “lead” bass ever!
Ramble On is my favorite Zeppelin tune. I’m glad you pay so much attention to it...
And you are such a sound and gear nerd, I f* love it!! Yeah I mostly heard more top-end 12k on Jimmy and you fixed that. I didn’t notice initially but you are dead-on that going closer to the bridge picked up the rhythmic clicking he got with the pick sound. By the end you totally got it! Frickin’ love this tune! Find myself listening to more Rain Song as time goes on though too-Rain Song doesn’t get enough love-really cool harmonies.
“I’ve got a Gibson, without a case, and I can’t even get that even-tanned look on my face”🤣🤣
Me: I can't find anything exciting in TH-cam anymore.
Rick Beato: Hold my soundboard!
Got Neev?
The acoustic sound of Jimi Hendrix “All along the the watchtower” brushy tone
Maybe he could interview Dave Mason!
@@honeychilerider Not sure if Dave would want to recount that - I've read that Hendrix chewed him out because he kept messing the rhythm up.
You mean Bob Dylan's All along the watchtower.
@@TLofHTown Could have been JIMI'S choice of drug chewing out Dave also
✌️oh yeeah!
I always loved the sound of George Harrison's acoustic on My Sweet Lord
All of the guitar sounds off ATMP are amazing. Let it down the acoustic version is amazing.
Phil Spector helped. Also the concert for Bangladesh is brilliantly produced.
I hope he does If not for you, My sweet Lord and All Things must Pass
There’s like six acoustics on that song
Great work Rick, as always!!!! Phenomenal job, bro!!! Keep it up!!!!
Y'know, I was in the drum room of my house the other day, when suddenly I realized that my house doesn't have a f***in drum room.
James J LLlOoOlLoLOOolLlLlLllLL...... deep breath..... LlLlOoOoLLloLlLooLLLLooOl
Adding my vote to "Recreating the Sound" as a new series!
I'd love to see Jimmy Page's reaction. Hopefully, he'd be flattered Rick did this.
Jimmy Page is the kind of guy that would take a few minutes to talk with RIck on a video call and discuss the "strumming near the bridge" element. He looks a bit cold but I think he has a good heart when he's in a good mood.
@@davidbergewaytogo That last sentence could apply to Blackmore as well, though I feel Jimmy is way more approachable as a regular person
The hotel California live acoustic 6 strings and the gibson both upper neck intro sound and the bottom neck amp configurations
Cant do it, Don Henley would sue for copyright infringement.
@@randyvanvliet226 aka Col. Sanders with a resentment.
We all hear differently, so this this was a significant Beato YT for me. I heard major differences between Page's guitar and Rick's first pass.
Then in the pro tools "remix" he dialed the two sounds together perfectly (to my ears). This is huge for me because we "hear" the same. Also,
his insight into picking closer to the bridge....
Thanks to Rick Beato for his sound engineering, and to YT for their streaming quality. They get slagged a lot, but with good source material
they deliver. To a musician, bad sound really hurts.
Try recreating John Entwistle's Bass sound. It sounds so cool.
His bass part and sound in 'Won't Get Fooled Again' is outrageous!
Would love to hear a recreation of Yes “Owner of A Lonely Heart” drum track. (Particularly the snare)
That needs to be a wmtsg!
Talk about attention to detail! Impressive Rick. That classic sound is worthy of the effort.
I'd love to see you give a go at recreating Alex Lifeson's tones on Hemispheres (the song), specifically his solo tones. It's really similar in vibe to Eddy's phased/flanged tones on VH1. Both came out in '78, so maybe there's a bit of inspiration going back and forth hahaha.
Nice work on recreating the R.O. sound, too. Great stuff. Learn something about recording every time I watch.
The first time I threw my dad's Hemispheres LP on the turntable, I was blown away by that sound. So rich and massive sounding. It would be amazing to have that broken down. The closest I've gotten with my Axe-FX II is using an Electric Mistress flanger type sound blended with the dry signal from a combination of a Marshall Plexi and Hiwatt DR103. Obviously the original was at least double tracked, possibly quad tracked, so it'll never be perfect but it gets me very close.
I love Led Zeppelin and "Ramble On" is a favorite. This recreation brought us closer to the moment of creation, including the specific guitar and microphone he used. I have to agree with the comment below that a breakdown of Jimmy Page's playing on "Stairway to Heaven" leading up to Robert Plant belting out the verse, "And as we wind on down the road
, Our shadows taller than our soul..." would be much appreciated. It's an anthem for a reason.
This song just melts you.
The solo from “Jamie’s Got A Gun”. For years I thought it was in a resonator but I found out it was a Chet Atkins narrow body electro acoustic.
I f€cking love that sound so much.
I would like to see you recreate the guitar tone from Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream, particularly the solo from Cherub Rock. The tone on that record is a deceptively simple fuzz tone but always seems like it was just a pinch away from feeding back and sounded so raw.
I'd also be keen to see a "What Makes This Song Great" for Soma. Such an awesome tune.
@@KiedisHaze My favorite on that record!
Suggestion: Peter Frampton’s ‘’Talkbox’ sound on “Do You Feel Like We Do” and/or the one used on Pink Floyd’s album “Animals”.
And/or used on Tyla Gang's song "Suicide Jockey."
+1!
yes please
I've never known anyone to truly capture the sound of Chris Squire's bass. That would be a nice challenge.
Actually, Richie Castellano has a great video on recreating Squire's bass sound
hey..i just wrote the same thing without looking at the comments..!! dude!
@@DanielBobke I checked it out and you are correct. Nice replication.
@@DanielBobke I was going to say it if you didnt
I said the same. "Roundabout" was where I first picked him out in particular.
Never heard of a Vox acoustic guitar before. Let alone a bolt on neck in a acoustic guitar.
Blown away!
Immediately when you started playing the guitar, my ears perked up and I was like "Ahhh, damn. That is definitely the sound."
Tone that I wanna see recreated: Yours Is No Disgrace by Yes. Chris Squire's bass tone changed my outlook on life. Thanks for Ramble On, the Zep song that changed my outlook on life too.
Absolutely -- this or Roundabout -- so dry you need a drink of ice water after listening to it!
Hey Rick, love Zeppelin and love the depth that you get into recreating the sonics of Page's acoustic tone here from the subtle playing to the production, definitely looking forward to more from this series (hope you make this segment a regular thing)!
This may be a long shot but I would love it if you could recreate some sounds from Bob Marley and the Wailers -- he had one of the most progressive reggae bands and a KILLER lineup in the late 70's (I highly recommend checking out his performance in Dortmund, Germany in 1980 which I believe to be one of their best shows). It would be really cool if you could dissect any of the tones, playing, production -- ANYTHING -- from that live performance or from Uprising, which is the last album he recorded before he died as they utilize a wide range of instruments (regular use of synthesizers, clavinet; percussion, guitar), tones (tons of envelope filters, clean and overdriven guitar tones) and interesting polyrhythms. I think analyzing late Marley specifically would make for an interesting addition to your content because his music merged the old school reggae ethos with the "modern" British production style of the era and I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions on anything/everything on that matter!
Thanks again for your time and consideration and hope you have a great week,
Elvin
Jimmy also played Eko Acoustics too, you can find pictures of him with a 12 string from the 60's. The Vox V238 Country Western guitar was manufactured for Vox by the Italian guitar manufacturer, Eko. The Vox Country Western was essentially a rebadged Eko Ranger 6 guitar (which I have).
I'd like to see a recreation of Angus' sound when he plays that opening A power chord in Shoot to Thrill. Actually the whole Back In Black album Angus' sound is just so pure rock 'n roll. So the whole album would be even better, haha! I can never seem to nail that sound, might be in the fingers after all ;)
Jop Flop this might sound counter intuitive, but try playing really light and cranking the amp. Apparently that’s what AC/DC did.
Solodallas made it
@@MrRo199 I know, but I like Rick's format :)
Got one! The guitars in "From the beginning", by EL&P. Great new series!
Man Rick's videos have evolved. He is THE best youtuber now
Great content AND doing everything he can to stick it to blockers. It's glorious.
Strumming closer to the bridge really did it. Thanks Rick!
If you feel like sticking to Zeppelin I’d love to hear Recreating the Sounds of No Quarter 😃
That would probably be a 5 hr video -- but I'd watch :-)
Pretty sure Jimmy used some Wah-Wah on the main guitar track.
Oof! I second. Rick would be the type to analyze the piano and bring out the theremin like page does live
MJmcnult isn’t that only on TSRTS?
@@mjmcnult he used a lot more wah-wah for No Quarter on the 2007 Celebration Day live right?
That 'slide' sound is a little more pronounced on Jimmy's guitar. But you nailed it. You are doing God's work, Rick. I hope this becomes a recurring series. I would love to see you re-create that *'bee-buzz' guitar sound of Justin Hayward's 1963 Gibson ES-335* on many of the Moody Blues songs. example: You and Me (Seventh Sojourn 1972)
Great shout. I've been after a similar kind of sound for ages, and I'm always happy to see more Moody Blues videos
Joe Smith great request! I have always loved his tone...especially on Seventh Sojourn.
Ernie Isley - Summer Breeze/Who’s that lady: lead sound.
Pro co Rat, Half cocked wah a univibe and a strat. Getcha close
I gave a thumbs up for that idea. My favourite solo ever. If you like that sound then listen to Be Bop Deluxe, Adventures on a Yorkshire Landscape. Which one came first?
Rick, your work on this is great. Who knew it was this particular guitar. I’m actually working with my guitar teacher on the main riff of this song and we’re still trying to figure out exactly what Jimmy is doing. The only difference I hear is on the A cord in 5th position phrase, Jimmy sounds like he’s resolving back to a root A chord. In your version I hear an open string which sounds different than Jimmy’s version. Other than that you are spot on with your feel on recreating the sound.
I've been a musician my whole life. I've always wanted to do this. Rick is THE MAN!
I'd love to hear Rick recreate Jonesy's bass tone on "Heartbreaker." Or "Houses of the Holy" (the song on Physical Graffiti) I'm pretty sure he is playing his mid 50s P-bass on the latter.
Keep up the fantastic work/videos!
Yes! The heartbreaker bass sound. Awesome!
Average day for Rick: "Well, I just played as well as Jimmy Page."
Average day for me: "Should I have fries or baked potato with dinner tonight?"
Average day for Rick is more like, "Ahm, i think i will spend a gabillion dollars on something because i have a hunch."
I wish i grew up to be Rick! Damn! He nailed it!
That's great!
That strum part really is not really that difficult. Any competent guitar player could pull it off very accurately with ten minutes of practice. Although Page is a very creative player, his technical skill has always been somewhat limited.
Go with a salad
Beato is to baked potato as I am to fries.
As suggestions for future videos:
Moonlight Drive, Doors, Robby's slide guitar
Something, Beatles, George's intro
I want you (she's so heavy), dito
American Woman, Guess Who, the singing guitar solo
Around the world, RHCP, Flea's intro
Son-of-a Preacher Man, Dusty Springfield, whoever hits that snare so juicily
That picture is when Jimmy was recording a song that never made it on the record called LaLa. This was revealed by him in an interview with Jeff Koons. It was released on the remasters last song on the second disc of Led Zeppelin II. Having said that I'm sure he probably used the same guitar for Ramble On as it was "around". However, from the look of the headstock logo it looks to be an Eko which is the same guitar under a different label.
I've read that it was an Eko Ranger, but there is also an interview which says Jimmy used his Harmony Sovereign H1260 on Ramble On. We may never know for sure but it makes for some great stories and reading!
@@svdd10 Exactly, Eko Ranger. Jimmy has also Played Eko Ranger 12-string guitars on stage as well.
The photo was from Olympic Studios in London (LaLa was recorded there) and Ramble On was recorded a few months later in Groove Sound in NY. It was most likely a different guitar and mic
@@Cpt_Adama I did not know that Jimmy played an EKO Ranger on stage. What tour was that on ? I know he played em in the studio - I don't recall seeing live pics of one.
as soon as Rick played it closer to the bridge, he had it. thats the sound right there. i was hoping to see how identical his piece would have been to Jimmy’s had he recorded it closer to the bridge.
I'm kinda doubting if Jimmy did it all in one take :) either
The one key was being closer to the bridge and he nailed it it's identical
Where's that confounded bridge?
@@jeffwatson9890 by the front of the guitar where the strings meet
@@jeffwatson9890 i think James Brown knows
Okay, I’m definitely tuning into everything in this series.
Chris Squire of YES... something like: Heart of the sunrise. That bass trk blows my mind. what do you hear in that song??
Absolutely awesome analysis. I’m totally giddy over this video.
This is one of the greatest songs a human ever wrote
You are so correct. They had to have pulled it out of the ethos.
@@AnnaLaug Many animals sing. It is said, "that whale songs are unique to that specific animal". Meaning, "they wrote their own lyrics". Maybe something worth thinking about.
Indeed
@@AnnaLaug Well a Plant co-wrote this one!!
This may be the most brilliant TH-cam channel. Listening to the two tracks, I am wondering if Pagey was using a lighter gauge pick than you're using. You've made my week with this video.
It has a kind crystal level in sound even the low notes
I’ve always been drawn to this song and have tinkered with it for the past 5 decades. I’ve always thought of it as a simple vamp between E and Asus chords. But the melody seems to be a blend of E pentatonic and E mixolydian scales. Brilliant! My admiration for Jimmy Page continues to grow.
Rick, that picture was from the recording of La La, Jimmy talked about it in his interview on 92Y with Jeff Koons. 🤙🏼🎸
Page’s sounded a bit brighter still. Playing closer to the bridge would definitely close the remaining gap. Great video Rick.
Yeah, once he made that adjustment it popped.
I think its doubled. Will give it a new listen on headphones like in the old days
He was also missing the little slide into the I
I have a theory about this. My guess is that Rick is using D'addario Phosphor Bronze strings (in an earlier video he said his new go to string is a set of PB .12s). Phosphor Bronze strings weren't invented until the mid seventies. I'd wager Page had his strung with 80/20 bronze strings in that recording session. And to my ear, that accounts for most of that difference, as that alloy tends to be a little brighter on the top end. And there's just a slightly different tonality to them than Phosphor Bronze strings, and I hear it in Page's original tone.
I'm just one of those guys that's really geeky about acoustic guitar tones in particular. I hope my theory is interesting to someone out there!
To end this rambling, 2020 sucks, I'm sure glad I can unplug and watch nerdy music videos at one in the morning with y'all. Lmao
cszollinger a fellow mountain time man! I’m from New Mexico.
Gimme Shelter. One of the coolest and mysterious guitar intro of all time.
That's a good one
This!
Good call.
Good call
LOVE LOVE LOVE!!! Jimmy Page is my absolute favorite, I clicked this video so fast, replayed it so fast, slowed it down to mimic your strumming. I had to pause and sit outside because it has shown me that Jimmy thinks of the strings as halfs, top and bottom. If you have seen him live, his upstrokes are so leisure. There is a down stroke where he picks at and then strums, like a mexican mariachi guitarist. Analyzing Mr Page has you mesmerized. Jeez.
My request! Pink Floyd's Time, specifically the solo a little after the 3rd minute. The single notes would be easy to find the replication. Only, its David Gilmour, the complexity is him. I would like to see that my good sir.
This was awesome. You need to have a Ph.D from MIT to compose? I think the most impactful advance Rick made to mimic Jimmy’s sound is when he realized that he needed to strum closer to the bridge.
I was thinking about difference between the strings when you played closer to the bridge. You totally got it.
EDIT: I removed the part from blocking. My bad.
Yeah, I wasn’t gonna wait on this one
Edit: my comment stands. 😀
ahahahahahah me too
Well, it's sad. In fact because of all this BS I don't even enjoy listening to Led Zeppelin anymore.
They don’t block!
@@RickBeato they're Gods!
Two things:
1. Pretty close, I think yours could use a bit more "air" in the top.
2. As far as recreating a particular sound: Alex Van Halen's snare. Particularly from Women and Children First.
The crazy slide noise in "How soon is now" by the smiths? This is a really cool series!
Just turn on all your peddles .
Tune your high E string down a full step to D. Place your slide at the 10th fret. Pick the E (now tuned to D) and B strings, and slide down to the 9th fret. Add some distortion, phaser, chorus, reverb and delay to this recipe, and . . . Bob's your uncle!
The way you hear and analyse any song and then just jump on pretty much any instrument and play it pretty much perfectly just blows me away! I think your skills are as good as anyone's Rick!
I'm blown away! Not only is this my fav Zep track but damn it just reinforces you want that sound you have to search out the same gear. great job!
3 things come to my mind (and ears) ;)
1. As somebody mentioned here about the guitar: E.Ros Dakota 606 (pickguard and headstock match)
2. Is it possible Jimmy used a thin pick as well?
3. Is it possible that a room condenser mic was also blended in with the D30?
Love the new episodes!
I believe 2, 3 both yes.
"Recreating the Sound: The "Ramble On" Acoustic"
**Jimmy Page has now left the chat
It's Gr8 that were able to match both Guitar playing & sounds so close....🎯
Snare in yellow submarine please!!!
Or the lead guitar parts in octopus's garden
This guitar was also branded and sold as an Eko Ranger, exactly the same as the Vox. The guitar in the picture that page is playing is also sometimes listed/described as an Eko Ranger.
Also sold as Eros 6 and 12 versions, I had a 6.
Cool. I have an Eko 12 string and noticed the bolt plate on the Vox looked the same. Also the cracking.
Isn't Eko an Italian brand?
Really? I inherited an eco-6 string from an old girlfriend in the 80s and it was a total pig to play and mostly sounded pants. Granted I’m not Jimmy Page but even so!
The drum track from Tomorrow Never Knows - Revolver - Beatles. A deep dive into that would be amazing.
I second that, love that whole album!
Should have told me you were looking for a Vox C/W, I still have mine from 1973. Love it.
in that case, Chris Squire's sound on Heart of the Sunrise - to my mind probably one of the most potent and colourful bass sounds in rock.
The snare sound at the beginning of The Police’s “Driven to Tears”.
The snare sound on any Police song :)
This is amazing! Would love to hear “Over the hills and far away” live 1972 I think it was in Long Beach, CA. Before it was on the album, it was electric and rocked out, not acoustic. That guitar tone is amazing! 🤘
Right on Rick. Yeah this is one of my favorite Zep songs ... from that era. You could cover more of the Zep tunes in future vids .... Boston had some of the greatest guitar tones back in the 70s ... that too.
Hey Rick, great job! I'm really impressed with how close you got here. Continuing along the vein of acoustics I've always been struck by the beauty and depth of Greg Lake's acoustic sound in ELP's From the Beginning. I suspect there is some technique going on there that might be tough to recreate but the sound itself (with some double-tracking) strikes me as unique as well. Cheers.
Absolutely
It’s a great sound. Very trebly and really highlights Lake’s precise picking.