Wow... I thought I was experiencing my first AI deep fake and was becoming alarmingly distraught at how real it seemed. Nope, turns out Clayton has a cool second channel I didn't know about :)
I started to think that it was someone else that seemed to be a lot like the guy from redacted. Then I read the comments and saw it was him. I was confused.
That's pretty rich of Konami saying that "you used the wrong power adapter" when they were too cheap to even include a cheapo USB power adapter with it. Thank goodness I used some random low power one with it that I just had laying around. I had no idea I'd been flirting with death playing with this thing.
Same. I leached off my TV's USB port not realizing it was so sensitive to the power source. Maybe i've been okay because i don't play for hours at a time or maybe i have the later model that someone else mentioned in the comments.
Im really pissed at the makers of this thing I just spent 4 days in a hotel with no games because my MINI wouldnt start. It seems to work on certain TVs well, others it takes a few"tries" now it didnt work at all. 250 bucks for a system that is janky as fuck
Clayton is the man! It’s nice to see someone who can navigate the stormy waters of our world’s corruptions and shedding light on unmistakeable truths…simultaneously being even more relatable as a fellow gamer, collector and do-it-yourselfer. Thanks for all you do Clayton, well done.
I thought this was a roll out of the next generation deep fakes that target personal interests but NOPE! Clayton is an old school gamer too! I knew this guy checked out 😂
@@Fighter4StreetI started playing arcade games in the early 80's and soon after that with C64, MSX, Amiga etc. But please, PS was a great machine. Some of the best games I have ever played are on PS, like Soulblade, Vrally, FFVII, GT and many many others. I recently played Colony Wars on it. Really tough but satisfying.
Wow, like everyone else, I am pleasantly surprised! One of my favorite TH-camrs is not only into retro games, but is also into repairing them!? This is awesome!
I was surprised also, as someone who actually fixes circuit boards when I can, I didn't expect he would have the knowledge to replace chips on a board.
Holy crap, didn’t realize ClayMo was cool this whole time, lol! If he knows what NeoGeo is then mind equals blown. If he sim races with a wheel then his coolness will be complete… Maybe McGregor, Ritter, and the Duran guys are this cool too!
Johnny! I just found out Clayton had a gaming/tech channel and now I see you here! I feel like I just found a secret easter egg of a channel today. This made my day.
This is happening so often that I don't buy electronics devices which don't come with a power cord anymore. I also use a sharpie marker and a blank sticker to label every power adaptor that I have so future me can figure out what they are.
Unfortunately, the TG16-Mini, even if you order that chip that appears cooked, it will not solve the issue you are having. To the right of the fried chip, there are several small resistors soldered onto pads on the board -- the way they are set up, if left as is, they will fry the chip shortly after it's fixed anyway. Oddly, when the board is turned on, there are 2 (maybe only 1 functioning) resistors keeping the USB ports at 4.7-4.8 volts. Once the device is turned off, however, there are there 3 resistors present that bypass the individual USB resistors, yet still manage to maintain voltage (potential current) flow through the USB ports -- these are all allowing a complete bypass of the other two resistors. So, when the console is off & plugged in, 5.1V is maintained over those two ports; when it is turned on, the resistors hold the voltage lower. Considering there are only ever 2-to-3 resisters on the board working at once & with the wrong voltage no less, those things are getting fried pretty darn quick for quite a few different people. & Holy smokes! These things were selling wayyyy above msrp after they launched! If you take a gander at the specs though..., that is a quad-core ARM board from years ago. That's not necessarily a bad thing -- the Nvidia Shield TV & the Switch use the Tegra x1 chip & that's nearing a decade old & that SoC only got better over the years & it's an ARM quad core with Nvidia's GPU tech integrated. ....&, I can't be 100% sure, but I'm 99.99999% sure the titles on the TG16-Mini can be played on at least one of those two systems via emulator. You'd just need to own a license to whichever games' given ROM(S) (you do...) because then, for the Shield TV at least, once you have a copy of the ROM you want & an emulator, you can sideload that with a microSD card & play the game without voltage issues. You just need the ROM for the game...!! Where can one find ROMs at for God's sake...?!! It's fairly simple if you look & may be considered "piracy"....whatever that even means...(?) But ROMs can be found -- it'd be a whole lot easier than soldering on those pads & correcting the flaw -- just keep the TG16 in camera shot at all times to maintain the illusion of the TG16 mini delivering exactly what you want.....(?)
Far as I'm concerned you DO own the games and the right to use the ROM's by extension considering you own this device which is meant to play those games in PC Engine form. In fact Konami owns Hudson Soft so by extension like 90% of the games on that with Ys 1 and 2 and Ghouls and Ghosts being the 3 they don't. You paid Konami that money by buying the device. Here's hoping my PC Engine Mini doesn't have the same problem.
The chip in question is the MA8601. It’s a usb controller chip. This gentleman had the same issue and fixed it on his unit! th-cam.com/video/YBS7e3dCMkc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=89NX1mv_9CoV_AmS
I was the strange kid down the block who had all the systems nobody else had. Tg-16, atari lynx, jaguar, vectrex, colico vision, etc. Turbo grafx 16 is my favorite system of all time. I Would distroy anyone at military madness.
What the heck!? Didn’t know you were a retro gamer as well! I suppose not a surprise. We grew up during the golden age of video games! Is Tucker a retro gamer as well?
It won in Japan for at least 2 years which is how it got so many games on it over there. Known as the PC Engine which is a name I like better. The marketing in the US I think really hurt it as they leaned into the 80's "Bigger is better" motif which I think was absolutely the WRONG way to go. They should have kept the same color and size as Japan and used it as a opportunity to create buzz by surprising people when they saw it and doubted it then played it.
Being that I could not get the official power adapter is the reason I've never tried to play it yet. Luckily, I read beforehand that it could be fried with the wrong adapter. So, I'm certainly not going to risk it. That should have been included with the system for the amount they charged for it.
Is anyone having the same issue with the PC Engine Mini? I saw the Hori logo on the board. I'm quite surprised that they would allow this type of issue to happen. Typically, the Japanese are very thorough with testing and QC.
I have a Coregrafx version of this and bought the original manufacturers usb adapter with it. The usb adapters for the originals are more than the whole console is worth. I haven't had any problems with mine because i use the original one but i do hope you get it fixed Clayton. It is a very cool machine! I love mine!
Luckily, I read about this issue before purchasing a PC Engine mini (which has mostly the same games as TG-16 mini, minus Salamander, and the system cost less at the time.. now, it's quadrupled in price) from Amazon Japan. Amazon US website had a 3rd party wall charger ("Armor3 "ReadyVolt" USB AC Adapter for Turbografx-16 Mini and PC Engine Mini") made specifically for TG-16/PC Engine minis, so that's the solution I went for. Unfortunately, it's no longer available on Amazon. I bought one of those electronic mini toolkits for other reasons though - opening up & upgrading laptop RAM memory - so it's useful to have one around if you do any sort of consumer electronics, laptop/PC repairs or upgrades.
What i do - use the Classic NES Nintendo mini Power plug 🔌 for any/all mini gaming systems as they definitely make their plugs put out the minimal 5V whatever amperage possible so as not to have issues such as this. Also, steer clear of ALL phone *Fast chargers* as those are assassins!
I put A LOT of time on my TG16 mini, and beat most of the games on it. Never knew about this...thankfully. The one I got off amazon that seemed to work for all those hours which I bought in 2020 was: Armor3 "ReadyVolt" USB AC Adapter for Turbografx-16 Mini and PC Engine Mini - Not Machine Specific. But don't blame if it fries it...actually I was going to boot it up soon to play through Neutopia II which is probably the last game I want or need to beat still.
I have an Anbernic handheld system that has 77 Turbo Grafx 16 games on it. I love it! I never had a Neo Geo or Turbo when I was younger. Playing Bomberman 93 while I watch this.
I remember when i saw the trend start around the launch of the mini being pretty worried and buying the official USB brick/cable: glad I did. Still, I wrote a summary article warning about what was going on a year or two after the system came out, and lately the article has been blowing up like mad, so unfortunately I guess a lot of people are having this issue. I saw one YTer successfully fix theirs but it seemed very tricky and frustrating to do, so I hope at some point a definitive, easier way to fix these minis can be found in the future, and said system can be stopped from frying itself in the future alongside that fix. (Maybe when a hack is finally released for it?)
Loved that console growing up. Very underrated. It's too bad that mini has these issues. Hopefully you can get that fixed. Would suck to lose all that save data.
WTF i was expecting a Redacted video and saw your face and the title and was then convinced it was some hoax channel! Awesome that you are retro gamer too, youve got a sub off me mate! Good luck with the mini, ive had the pce duo for a few years and not long gotten myself an analogue duo so my mini has had very little use.
If the instruction told you to use a specific Power Supply Adapter, then its not the UNIT that has a fatal flaw, its the end user not following directions.
This kind of games reminds me of some kind of controller that i had, i would connect it with tv and play games, old mortal combat, super mario, formula racing, some football game
I have the pc engine mini and turbo mini. I haven’t had any issues using iPhone adapters. I ordered both consoles months before it was released in the US though from Amazon Japan. Unsure why turbografx16 was available from Amazon Japan earlier than the US… just odd.
Awesome Clayton. I've been following some of your TH-cam channels for many years and had no idea you were into retro games or fixing electronics. I had an original TG-16 back in the 90's and loved it. I was excited to buy the mini a couple years ago but when they finally released I was too busy renovating houses to pay attention and missed the original sales. Resale ones were marked up way too high so I've kind of lost the desire for one. Looking forward to see if you're successful on the repair. I'm about 1 for 5 on my usb flash drive board repair success so good luck.
We had a similar problem and it was caused by conductive threads on yhe wrst strap that reduces the stadic charge. There is a reson they dont allow streal wool on Navy ships. Mercury balls? Did domeone break a thermometer. Are teo traces too close togetger? Did a carbon trace jump across? Did the manufacturing not conformal cost that are. Did someone spill something in it? What could it be? A desighn flaw? Counterfeit chip?
Latent failure because the chip was not dry or got exposed to a magnet field? Just saying these are only a few of the possibilities. The solder iron was not fully lifted between heartbeats while soldering under the microscope in the factory of conditions you do not want to know.
Thank you for making this video! I own a TurboGrafx mini too but I have not opened it as I had already heard about USB power issues! It’s absurd they didn’t include something so critical! I believe the exact same thing happened to my PSX mini as it stopped working for no reason! Same as your system, it powers up but neither USB port works! I’ve not bothered to open it. It really smells like a great class action lawsuit but being those mini systems were so cheap, I’m sure we are out of luck :(
Good luck trying to beat Ys 1, 30 years ago as a kid I couldn't beat it. Then retried last year and had to finally look up online how to finish the last boss. I wanted to try and beat it without help.
I love it @claytonmorris RPG’s are going to help us in the trials to come, have you ever played Lunar 1&2? How about Earthbound? I just got my hands on an english translation of Mother 3, i think theres information in some of these games, information that may have been passed off as pure fantasy, it may be the clues for the world to come. Very cool to see you considering swapping out a shorted out chip, thats skill if you can do that.
Use a P-MOSFET and a Schottky diode to regulate the voltage...I am sure someone makes a usb plugin to regulate the voltage outside the unit or a small circuit you can bridge inside by wiring it in front of the USB power feed.
So what Power Adapter was you using? If you pluged into a TV USB Port, they have mostly only 500mah and 5V Output. My Mostly used AC Adapters with on or two USB Ports has 5 V with 1AH or 2AH. So what AC Adapter was used? Any others over 5V i never used for many other mini consoles or smartphones. A raspberry pi ac adapter with 5v and 3ah should work to. Or is the Problem the high Ampere?
1:06 there's no other way to play these games!?! this is just an EMULATION DEVICE in a pretty superficial shell, probably using mednafen which you can play on pretty much any system going, and before that you had magic-engine a brilliant emulator which you have been able to play for 25+ years!
I had no idea you liked games my dude. That's fantastic. I got the PC engine mini ordered from Japan on ebay and it didn't come with a power brick. It didn't ship with a power brick in the first place. The company omitted it in spite of it being sensitive to power too (so I'm told). I run it from the USB on my TV just to be safe.
Smart. I’ve heard that has worked for people using their tv usb hub. It’s impossible to find the Hori manufactured power brick that is sold separately.
I see from some of the other comments I'm not the only one to be a bit surprised that the dude from Redacted is a gamer. Pretty cool though that you are a gamer. Your video about Elon talking about video games is how I found this channel (that video is worth a watch) Funny though , I used to have a TG-16 back in the day and Ys 1 was one of my favourite games. Anyways , if you still are looking to play Ys 1 and 2 ... I'm pretty sure it's on steam nowadays :)
A lot of these mini consoles have problems with non spec power supplies. Included ones that don’t come with their own power supplies! (Astro City). So annoying.
Damn... Now that is a fried chip...Bruh... I suck at soldering stuff. Every time I try to solder, the solder just evaporates when I try to place it on the wires. lol
I've been fortunate having old phone chargers that natively operate at 5v 2.0 amps and had my mini a few years no issue after clearing YS book 1 & 2, Dungeon Explorer, Lords of thunder, Draxula X Rondo of Blood. The mini is worth it to me having since it does represent the best of the system though I wished it had street fighter 2 CE I had that cart thanks to a catalog named TZD (turbo zone direct.) I used to own the cd-rom too and super system card but a house fire would ensure I moved on to emulation. I been eyeballing the PC-engine and everdrive and I kinda like the smaller unit wished the US was more like the japanese console why didn't NEC spare themselves the extra costs or tooling a new console shell when they could have just shipped in mass the same case and give it the same name they could have also included a default multi tap (limit to two players) and included another controller make the cords longer and sell it for around $150 usd I think they could have cornered the 16 bit market with the extra year head start the money saved put into marketing and pushing games developers would have really taken notice. I could go into the what ifs so hard with the tg-16 it was a great system and I still hold hope someone makes ports of Mortal Kombat for it at least the first 2 in that franchise.
It must be a USB hub chip. You can see the one pair of data lines going to the chip and the two pairs going to the USB ports. You might be able to just de-solder the chip and wire the USB data from the APU straight to one of the USB ports to get one controller working. Depends how much USB support is programmed into the Kernel. You might also be able to substitute in any number of USB hub controllers.
I appreciate you posting this video, my Turbo mini was my daily driver until I got an Analogue Duo, I'll be lacing my mini on a shelf for the foreseeable future O_O
This probably would not help you but I have had my TG16 mini since launch and I use the analogue super NT power supply and it works great. I know not everyone has access to this power supply but if you do it’s the way to go.
You should do the Faceless soulless corporation tactic and buy all the replacement chips and tell everyone they is in short supply and then make a killing selling them to people that believe they have to stock up like toilet paper. XD
Just woke up and see my feed and only after 2 minutes I realised this wasn't Redacted channel! I was wondering how many console were sold to be a worldwide threat :D About the chip I can't help much because I am a Mega Drive player, but if you check social medias you should be able to find Turbo Grafx fan groups and ask there. I am sure you will find a fella that is happy to open the console and take a photo of the chip name.
I just did a quick look up for a 28 pin USB Hub IC and FE1.1S appears to have the same pinout. Not saying this is compatible though. Pin 1 is ground. Pins 4&5 are data - + for one controller port. Pins 6&7 would be an unused USB port. Pins 8&9 are data - + for the other controller port. 10 & 11 would be another unused USB port. Pin 13 should be 3.3V. The data to the processor; the two traces coming from under the bottom should go to pins 15&16 data - +. Pin 20 should be 5V and 21 is 3.3V, where all the melting has occurred... It even uses a 12MHZ crystal, the silver component above the IC, and that should be connected to pins 2&3. The proper chip part number is MA8601.
I just published a video on Helldivers 2. Let me know what you think: th-cam.com/video/-Bz2sDZtkSo/w-d-xo.html
The guy from Redacted is talking about a TurboGrafx... WTF!? xD LOL!!!
Am I hallucinating ?
U sure?
I thought this was a deepfake
My thoughts exactly, its a small lovely world isnt it, we gotta fix it.
IKR
Had no idea you were a gamer! Hell ya!
I remember years ago Clayton doing weekend Tech tips or something similar. :)
Wow... I thought I was experiencing my first AI deep fake and was becoming alarmingly distraught at how real it seemed.
Nope, turns out Clayton has a cool second channel I didn't know about :)
I KNOW RIGHT!!! I was like WHAT THE HELL IS THIS... must be a AI deep fake or something.😆
Yea I thought it was an AI video too 😂
I started to think that it was someone else that seemed to be a lot like the guy from redacted. Then I read the comments and saw it was him. I was confused.
Klaus Schwab sponsored the Turbografx mini so that you own nothing 😂
That's pretty rich of Konami saying that "you used the wrong power adapter" when they were too cheap to even include a cheapo USB power adapter with it. Thank goodness I used some random low power one with it that I just had laying around. I had no idea I'd been flirting with death playing with this thing.
Same. I leached off my TV's USB port not realizing it was so sensitive to the power source. Maybe i've been okay because i don't play for hours at a time or maybe i have the later model that someone else mentioned in the comments.
Im really pissed at the makers of this thing I just spent 4 days in a hotel with no games because my MINI wouldnt start. It seems to work on certain TVs well, others it takes a few"tries" now it didnt work at all. 250 bucks for a system that is janky as fuck
Clayton is the man! It’s nice to see someone who can navigate the stormy waters of our world’s corruptions and shedding light on unmistakeable truths…simultaneously being even more relatable as a fellow gamer, collector and do-it-yourselfer. Thanks for all you do Clayton, well done.
I thought this was a roll out of the next generation deep fakes that target personal interests but NOPE! Clayton is an old school gamer too! I knew this guy checked out 😂
He seems to like the same generation of games I played, none of that N64, sony playstation garbage era.
@@Fighter4StreetI started playing arcade games in the early 80's and soon after that with C64, MSX, Amiga etc. But please, PS was a great machine. Some of the best games I have ever played are on PS, like Soulblade, Vrally, FFVII, GT and many many others. I recently played Colony Wars on it. Really tough but satisfying.
Wow, like everyone else, I am pleasantly surprised! One of my favorite TH-camrs is not only into retro games, but is also into repairing them!? This is awesome!
Wow, thanks!
I was surprised also, as someone who actually fixes circuit boards when I can, I didn't expect he would have the knowledge to replace chips on a board.
Holy crap, didn’t realize ClayMo was cool this whole time, lol! If he knows what NeoGeo is then mind equals blown. If he sim races with a wheel then his coolness will be complete… Maybe McGregor, Ritter, and the Duran guys are this cool too!
If he knows about the turbo mini then he definitely knows about the neo geo
MacGregor playing tank commander with steering wheel
Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang!
*METAL SLUG.*
Wait…..is this an alternate reality I’m waking up to???! 🤯
I can't believe this has happened to soo many people!
Johnny! I just found out Clayton had a gaming/tech channel and now I see you here! I feel like I just found a secret easter egg of a channel today. This made my day.
We all share gaming as our common interest!@@timothygermangamesofficial
Thats what happens when you make a cheap console and dont even give people a Power cord
Clayton plays Old School games? Man we could have been hanging out years ago!! Hah!
We love you Clayton. Thank you for your truth and showing a side a lot of us can relate to!
I appreciate that. Thank you!
That chip is a Moai MA8601 USB controller.
I had no idea you had this channel , was going to post you had a twin brother
This is happening so often that I don't buy electronics devices which don't come with a power cord anymore. I also use a sharpie marker and a blank sticker to label every power adaptor that I have so future me can figure out what they are.
I do the same. I sharpie all my power blocks with gold paint marker.
I wish I did this with a portable OLED monitor I have. It isn't burned out but I will not touch it until I am sure I am using the right plug.
i use a label maker
Unfortunately, the TG16-Mini, even if you order that chip that appears cooked, it will not solve the issue you are having. To the right of the fried chip, there are several small resistors soldered onto pads on the board -- the way they are set up, if left as is, they will fry the chip shortly after it's fixed anyway. Oddly, when the board is turned on, there are 2 (maybe only 1 functioning) resistors keeping the USB ports at 4.7-4.8 volts. Once the device is turned off, however, there are there 3 resistors present that bypass the individual USB resistors, yet still manage to maintain voltage (potential current) flow through the USB ports -- these are all allowing a complete bypass of the other two resistors. So, when the console is off & plugged in, 5.1V is maintained over those two ports; when it is turned on, the resistors hold the voltage lower. Considering there are only ever 2-to-3 resisters on the board working at once & with the wrong voltage no less, those things are getting fried pretty darn quick for quite a few different people.
& Holy smokes! These things were selling wayyyy above msrp after they launched! If you take a gander at the specs though..., that is a quad-core ARM board from years ago. That's not necessarily a bad thing -- the Nvidia Shield TV & the Switch use the Tegra x1 chip & that's nearing a decade old & that SoC only got better over the years & it's an ARM quad core with Nvidia's GPU tech integrated. ....&, I can't be 100% sure, but I'm 99.99999% sure the titles on the TG16-Mini can be played on at least one of those two systems via emulator. You'd just need to own a license to whichever games' given ROM(S) (you do...) because then, for the Shield TV at least, once you have a copy of the ROM you want & an emulator, you can sideload that with a microSD card & play the game without voltage issues. You just need the ROM for the game...!! Where can one find ROMs at for God's sake...?!! It's fairly simple if you look & may be considered "piracy"....whatever that even means...(?) But ROMs can be found -- it'd be a whole lot easier than soldering on those pads & correcting the flaw -- just keep the TG16 in camera shot at all times to maintain the illusion of the TG16 mini delivering exactly what you want.....(?)
Far as I'm concerned you DO own the games and the right to use the ROM's by extension considering you own this device which is meant to play those games in PC Engine form.
In fact Konami owns Hudson Soft so by extension like 90% of the games on that with Ys 1 and 2 and Ghouls and Ghosts being the 3 they don't. You paid Konami that money by buying the device.
Here's hoping my PC Engine Mini doesn't have the same problem.
Mr Morris spits hot fire of truth, but a gamer at heart. 👍👍
I hope you review more games like ys and other games.
The chip in question is the MA8601. It’s a usb controller chip. This gentleman had the same issue and fixed it on his unit!
th-cam.com/video/YBS7e3dCMkc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=89NX1mv_9CoV_AmS
That's it. Clayton is awesome! 😂😎😁
No mway Clayton since when did you have this channel. Had no idea you were into this sort of stuff.
He is also a scammer
Be still my heart... Clayton not only provides great alternative views on current events.... He's also a gamer?!
Clayton's an old school gamer !
Sweeeeeeet !
I was the strange kid down the block who had all the systems nobody else had. Tg-16, atari lynx, jaguar, vectrex, colico vision, etc.
Turbo grafx 16 is my favorite system of all time.
I Would distroy anyone at military madness.
Literally shocked when I saw this title lol 😂
What the heck!? Didn’t know you were a retro gamer as well! I suppose not a surprise. We grew up during the golden age of video games! Is Tucker a retro gamer as well?
I use the adapter I got with the SNES mini's, have not had any issues yet.
I bought a TurboGrafx-16 new back in the day... over a Genesis.
I did like it overall.
It won in Japan for at least 2 years which is how it got so many games on it over there. Known as the PC Engine which is a name I like better.
The marketing in the US I think really hurt it as they leaned into the 80's "Bigger is better" motif which I think was absolutely the WRONG way to go. They should have kept the same color and size as Japan and used it as a opportunity to create buzz by surprising people when they saw it and doubted it then played it.
Being that I could not get the official power adapter is the reason I've never tried to play it yet. Luckily, I read beforehand that it could be fried with the wrong adapter. So, I'm certainly not going to risk it. That should have been included with the system for the amount they charged for it.
Is anyone having the same issue with the PC Engine Mini? I saw the Hori logo on the board. I'm quite surprised that they would allow this type of issue to happen. Typically, the Japanese are very thorough with testing and QC.
Dam that just sad.Abit strange that they don't put the Usb adapter in the box with the machine.
What the hell Clayton! You’re like a one stop shop here on TH-cam! This is pretty cool!
He is also a scammer 😂
@@ukisa3rdworld586 -- did you read the "everyone I don't agree with is a scammer grifter" book from the school of left wing intelligencia?
I have a Coregrafx version of this and bought the original manufacturers usb adapter with it. The usb adapters for the originals are more than the whole console is worth. I haven't had any problems with mine because i use the original one but i do hope you get it fixed Clayton. It is a very cool machine! I love mine!
Luckily, I read about this issue before purchasing a PC Engine mini (which has mostly the same games as TG-16 mini, minus Salamander, and the system cost less at the time.. now, it's quadrupled in price) from Amazon Japan. Amazon US website had a 3rd party wall charger ("Armor3 "ReadyVolt" USB AC Adapter for Turbografx-16 Mini and PC Engine Mini") made specifically for TG-16/PC Engine minis, so that's the solution I went for. Unfortunately, it's no longer available on Amazon. I bought one of those electronic mini toolkits for other reasons though - opening up & upgrading laptop RAM memory - so it's useful to have one around if you do any sort of consumer electronics, laptop/PC repairs or upgrades.
I loved the TurboGrafx-16 when. I was a kid. It was a very underrated system.
What i do - use the Classic NES Nintendo mini Power plug 🔌 for any/all mini gaming systems as they definitely make their plugs put out the minimal 5V whatever amperage possible so as not to have issues such as this. Also, steer clear of ALL phone *Fast chargers* as those are assassins!
I put A LOT of time on my TG16 mini, and beat most of the games on it. Never knew about this...thankfully. The one I got off amazon that seemed to work for all those hours which I bought in 2020 was: Armor3 "ReadyVolt" USB AC Adapter for Turbografx-16 Mini and PC Engine Mini - Not Machine Specific. But don't blame if it fries it...actually I was going to boot it up soon to play through Neutopia II which is probably the last game I want or need to beat still.
How does Mr Morris has time to wake up the people, look after kids, AND play games! Lol😊 *lvl up* for sure!
This channel just made me like you more! Thought I was seeing things 😂
I have an Anbernic handheld system that has 77 Turbo Grafx 16 games on it. I love it! I never had a Neo Geo or Turbo when I was younger. Playing Bomberman 93 while I watch this.
They made an official power adaptor for it by Hori, but that is very hard to find now.
I remember when i saw the trend start around the launch of the mini being pretty worried and buying the official USB brick/cable: glad I did. Still, I wrote a summary article warning about what was going on a year or two after the system came out, and lately the article has been blowing up like mad, so unfortunately I guess a lot of people are having this issue.
I saw one YTer successfully fix theirs but it seemed very tricky and frustrating to do, so I hope at some point a definitive, easier way to fix these minis can be found in the future, and said system can be stopped from frying itself in the future alongside that fix. (Maybe when a hack is finally released for it?)
Clayton!!!!! Whoooo! Thanks for the tips! I had you figured for a game guy from stuff in the background. Nothing beats the original.
Loved that console growing up. Very underrated. It's too bad that mini has these issues. Hopefully you can get that fixed. Would suck to lose all that save data.
I thought this was a joke for minute. Nice to see you're a gamer Clayton! Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Wow I’m so happy I bought the exact usb charger recommended back in 2020. That’s why this has never been a problem
Holy crap, this appeared in my feed. I heard somewhere that clay was gamer! Now it is confirmed! WOOHOO!
Confirmed
@@ClaytonMorris SUBBED!!!
WTF i was expecting a Redacted video and saw your face and the title and was then convinced it was some hoax channel!
Awesome that you are retro gamer too, youve got a sub off me mate!
Good luck with the mini, ive had the pce duo for a few years and not long gotten myself an analogue duo so my mini has had very little use.
My friend lent me his TG16 one summer and man what a great system. Loved the aesthetic and those cards ❤
I haven’t heard of that since San Jose in like 97 😂
If the instruction told you to use a specific Power Supply Adapter, then its not the UNIT that has a fatal flaw, its the end user not following directions.
I’m playing turbo grafx games for the first time on the Analogue Pocket. The Pocket is the best thing I’ve ever bought it’s so awesome.
This kind of games reminds me of some kind of controller that i had, i would connect it with tv and play games, old mortal combat, super mario, formula racing, some football game
I have the pc engine mini and turbo mini. I haven’t had any issues using iPhone adapters. I ordered both consoles months before it was released in the US though from Amazon Japan. Unsure why turbografx16 was available from Amazon Japan earlier than the US… just odd.
it has to do with the voltages... you have to use a 2 amp adapter, most of them are 1 amp which is why this is happening.
Awesome Clayton. I've been following some of your TH-cam channels for many years and had no idea you were into retro games or fixing electronics. I had an original TG-16 back in the 90's and loved it. I was excited to buy the mini a couple years ago but when they finally released I was too busy renovating houses to pay attention and missed the original sales. Resale ones were marked up way too high so I've kind of lost the desire for one. Looking forward to see if you're successful on the repair. I'm about 1 for 5 on my usb flash drive board repair success so good luck.
Thanks I’m ordering the replacement chip and I’ll see if I can swing it.
We had a similar problem and it was caused by conductive threads on yhe wrst strap that reduces the stadic charge. There is a reson they dont allow streal wool on Navy ships. Mercury balls? Did domeone break a thermometer. Are teo traces too close togetger? Did a carbon trace jump across? Did the manufacturing not conformal cost that are. Did someone spill something in it? What could it be? A desighn flaw? Counterfeit chip?
Latent failure because the chip was not dry or got exposed to a magnet field? Just saying these are only a few of the possibilities. The solder iron was not fully lifted between heartbeats while soldering under the microscope in the factory of conditions you do not want to know.
Whatever
Hi! Did you manage to fix it? I wish I had a TurboGrafx-16 Mini. :D
Thank you for making this video! I own a TurboGrafx mini too but I have not opened it as I had already heard about USB power issues! It’s absurd they didn’t include something so critical! I believe the exact same thing happened to my PSX mini as it stopped working for no reason! Same as your system, it powers up but neither USB port works! I’ve not bothered to open it. It really smells like a great class action lawsuit but being those mini systems were so cheap, I’m sure we are out of luck :(
There’s got to be a way to put in a voltage regulator somewhere in series with that chip to prevent it from frying!
My favorite game ever is on turbo Grafx 16. Final Lap Twin!
Good luck trying to beat Ys 1, 30 years ago as a kid I couldn't beat it. Then retried last year and had to finally look up online how to finish the last boss. I wanted to try and beat it without help.
Didn't know this was an issue. I haven't used my TG16 mini in a couple years.
Review the new handhelds like Legion Go etc
I love it @claytonmorris RPG’s are going to help us in the trials to come, have you ever played Lunar 1&2? How about Earthbound? I just got my hands on an english translation of Mother 3, i think theres information in some of these games, information that may have been passed off as pure fantasy, it may be the clues for the world to come.
Very cool to see you considering swapping out a shorted out chip, thats skill if you can do that.
I thought about getting one of those, but now they're way beyond retail price
Use a P-MOSFET and a Schottky diode to regulate the voltage...I am sure someone makes a usb plugin to regulate the voltage outside the unit or a small circuit you can bridge inside by wiring it in front of the USB power feed.
Probably open it up when you first get it put a heat sink in it or a small fan keep it from over heating
Clayton turned metal Jesus
Wait what? Claytons Gaming channel and hes talking Turbo Grafiix?!!?!?!?!
Nice cooling system 🥲i guess they need rethink cooling system
It took me a second to realise this was not an AI generated video.
It's ic 8 find a schematic probably a power controller chip ???
The real fun come when you hot air flow solder that chip back on
So what Power Adapter was you using? If you pluged into a TV USB Port, they have mostly only 500mah and 5V Output. My Mostly used AC Adapters with on or two USB Ports has 5 V with 1AH or 2AH. So what AC Adapter was used? Any others over 5V i never used for many other mini consoles or smartphones. A raspberry pi ac adapter with 5v and 3ah should work to. Or is the Problem the high Ampere?
1:06 there's no other way to play these games!?! this is just an EMULATION DEVICE in a pretty superficial shell, probably using mednafen which you can play on pretty much any system going, and before that you had magic-engine a brilliant emulator which you have been able to play for 25+ years!
Playing it now on the Analogue Duo. Such an amazing machine.
@@ClaytonMorris looks good,
I use mednafen on the Wii and it plays very nicely in 224p on a CRT TV, no noticeable lag, very zippy
Pro tip!!! I know this will sound a little pricey but it's worth it. Buy a turbo graphx 16 and get an Everdrive 3.0!!!! If you know you know :)
where we can find that voltage adaptor ?
bithead1000 was right, Konami blew it again.
16bit RPG’s to teach us how to defeat tyranny. I feel the same love but for SNES, never played Y’s.
I had no idea you liked games my dude. That's fantastic. I got the PC engine mini ordered from Japan on ebay and it didn't come with a power brick. It didn't ship with a power brick in the first place. The company omitted it in spite of it being sensitive to power too (so I'm told). I run it from the USB on my TV just to be safe.
Smart. I’ve heard that has worked for people using their tv usb hub. It’s impossible to find the Hori manufactured power brick that is sold separately.
I see from some of the other comments I'm not the only one to be a bit surprised that the dude from Redacted is a gamer. Pretty cool though that you are a gamer. Your video about Elon talking about video games is how I found this channel (that video is worth a watch)
Funny though , I used to have a TG-16 back in the day and Ys 1 was one of my favourite games. Anyways , if you still are looking to play Ys 1 and 2 ... I'm pretty sure it's on steam nowadays :)
A lot of these mini consoles have problems with non spec power supplies. Included ones that don’t come with their own power supplies! (Astro City). So annoying.
It’s Such a great little system that’s too bad.
Damn... Now that is a fried chip...Bruh... I suck at soldering stuff. Every time I try to solder, the solder just evaporates when I try to place it on the wires. lol
I've been fortunate having old phone chargers that natively operate at 5v 2.0 amps and had my mini a few years no issue after clearing YS book 1 & 2, Dungeon Explorer, Lords of thunder, Draxula X Rondo of Blood. The mini is worth it to me having since it does represent the best of the system though I wished it had street fighter 2 CE I had that cart thanks to a catalog named TZD (turbo zone direct.) I used to own the cd-rom too and super system card but a house fire would ensure I moved on to emulation. I been eyeballing the PC-engine and everdrive and I kinda like the smaller unit wished the US was more like the japanese console why didn't NEC spare themselves the extra costs or tooling a new console shell when they could have just shipped in mass the same case and give it the same name they could have also included a default multi tap (limit to two players) and included another controller make the cords longer and sell it for around $150 usd I think they could have cornered the 16 bit market with the extra year head start the money saved put into marketing and pushing games developers would have really taken notice.
I could go into the what ifs so hard with the tg-16 it was a great system and I still hold hope someone makes ports of Mortal Kombat for it at least the first 2 in that franchise.
A Variable 5volt power adapter should work
It must be a USB hub chip. You can see the one pair of data lines going to the chip and the two pairs going to the USB ports. You might be able to just de-solder the chip and wire the USB data from the APU straight to one of the USB ports to get one controller working. Depends how much USB support is programmed into the Kernel. You might also be able to substitute in any number of USB hub controllers.
I'm attempting to complete these games in 2024. Watch this video: th-cam.com/video/bX6MuDnQ2vI/w-d-xo.html
Clayton came out of the closet. He’s a gamer 😝
I thought this was redacted 😅. Man i love bonks and splatterhouse. Still have an original Turbografx 16.
Im subscribing to this channel too.
The fatal flaw was introduced by the WEF.
Your chips will bake and you will like it.
I appreciate you posting this video, my Turbo mini was my daily driver until I got an Analogue Duo, I'll be lacing my mini on a shelf for the foreseeable future O_O
This probably would not help you but I have had my TG16 mini since launch and I use the analogue super NT power supply and it works great. I know not everyone has access to this power supply but if you do it’s the way to go.
Dude, you have many talents. Cheer
That sucks. Maybe send it to Louis Rossmann for repair, they do this type of work
Is that that Guy from Rdactd?!?! Lol awesome 😊
You should do the Faceless soulless corporation tactic and buy all the replacement chips and tell everyone they is in short supply and then make a killing selling them to people that believe they have to stock up like toilet paper. XD
Just woke up and see my feed and only after 2 minutes I realised this wasn't Redacted channel! I was wondering how many console were sold to be a worldwide threat :D
About the chip I can't help much because I am a Mega Drive player, but if you check social medias you should be able to find Turbo Grafx fan groups and ask there. I am sure you will find a fella that is happy to open the console and take a photo of the chip name.
I didn’t know I play video games .
I think I fried the chip on a PC Engine as I wasn't aware of this until it was too late. Any updates?
nope... if you fried the USB drive by using a 1 amp adapter, it's permanent.
I just did a quick look up for a 28 pin USB Hub IC and FE1.1S appears to have the same pinout. Not saying this is compatible though. Pin 1 is ground. Pins 4&5 are data - + for one controller port. Pins 6&7 would be an unused USB port. Pins 8&9 are data - + for the other controller port. 10 & 11 would be another unused USB port. Pin 13 should be 3.3V. The data to the processor; the two traces coming from under the bottom should go to pins 15&16 data - +. Pin 20 should be 5V and 21 is 3.3V, where all the melting has occurred... It even uses a 12MHZ crystal, the silver component above the IC, and that should be connected to pins 2&3. The proper chip part number is MA8601.
Thanks for this!