Thug. Absolutely. Flash forward [backward] to 2019, and the sort of "great woman" that Maggie Thatcher was, is now a CEO of a weapons manufacturing company. If you want to admire an English woman, leader, just go to back Elizabeth R., or maybe even Mary Queen of Scots; if you can not remember Matilda, or at least Eleanor of Aquitaine... ha! Admiring Maggie Thatcher [Ronald Reagan, any Bush, or TRUMP], is all that is needed to prove that there is no such thing as evolution, progression, advancement, growth. If a woman has a spine: it is miraculous to men that she HAS one, NOT that she uses it well. Her knuckles chafed across the concrete, just as much as any gorilla.
@thatcheritescot Negotiation ended the cuban missile crisis. Kennedy said, "take your missiles out of Cuba, and we'll take our missiles out of Turkey" and the Soviets said ok. Crisis ended. Khruschev was no less a dictator and no less agressive than Saddam Hussein. If negotiation could work in that case, I think that's a pretty good reason to think it could work in this one.
Not an equal comparison. What brought the Cuba crisis to a peaceful end was leaders on both sides becoming desperate to avoid a nuclear exchange and having to find a way out of it that still satisfied the hawks in their regimes. Had the Soviets actually invaded a US ally (as Saddam later did), Kennedy was committed to defending those allies with the nuke.
@@baxterbasics Taking the missiles out of Turkey didn't appease the hawks in the States. Kennedy had to do it secretly because the Republicans refused to cooperate with that strategy.
I certainly have my criticisms of the late Lady Thatcher but she was spot on the Gulf. Saddam Hussein belonged to a political movement whose founders took inspiration from the Nazis with the view of creating a single Arab state in the Middle East. She was even more right in taking this decision and encouraging US action than she was in the Falklands.
As the Yugoslavia of the Middle East, Iraq is a single country only while there is overwhelming military force to suppress mutually hostile ethnic and religious factions. The US supported Saddam Hussein as someone who could marshal that kind of military power in spite of his thuggish methods and in return he fought a proxy war for us against Iran. We didn't attack him because he invaded Kuwait; he'd simply outlived his usefulness.
The Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher was one of the Greatest Prime Minister's of the 20th Century a conviction politician defender of Democracy liberty's and freedom's a respected towering world figure Lady Thatcher's greatly and very sadly missed bless the late lady Thatcher 💐
@thatcheritescot "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 1960s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America." April Glaspie, US Ambassador to Iraq, just prior to the invasion of Kuwait.
@sondano Thank you so much for your deep analysis of my conscience. Because a stranger on You Tube has shown me the light with a quick quip I have rethought my stance on massive genocidal actions by tyrants. Thanks man, you have enlightened me.
From Wikipaedia "Many Muslims from other countries assisted the various mujahideen groups in Afghanistan. Some groups of these veterans have been significant factors in more recent conflicts in and around the Muslim world. Osama bin Laden, originally from a wealthy family in Saudi Arabia, was a prominent organizer and financier of an all-Arab Islamist group of foreign volunteers; his Maktab al-Khadamat funnelled money, arms, and Muslim fighters from around the Muslim world into Afghanistan"
@123HMatty Yeh, as a Tory I'd stay away from the Saddam Hussein issue if I were you. Under the Thatcher administration, Britain secretly gave arms aid to Saddam and assisted in building a chemical plant in Iraq, despite being fully aware that Saddam Hussein's troops gassed Iranian troops. Additionally, a Tory administration, working with Washington, helped the Baathists to power originally. Oh, and the Taliban got tons of aid too, when they were fighting the Russkis.
Yet you forget even if Thatchers share of the vote fell, her majority stayed very strong and that the opposition (Labour) were beating eaten from the inside by Benn and the loonly left and the threat of the social democrats from the right, if Thatcher had stayed until 1997 I doubt there would of been a new labour ( Thatcher said she would go in 1997 if she had won until then )
“A rather nauseating stench of appeasement.” If Blair and Bush had spoken as clearly as her, people might have listened to them about Iraq instead of getting their opinions from ignorant and hysterical celebrities like Elton John.
That Man has no balls & galls ineptitudes & weak feeble acumen in defending thier allied country's Sovereign territories..Bring back the Iron Lady I wish in a form of another Brilliant diplomatic Man or at least like Churchill...the Lady isn't for turning indeed
I love Maggie and agree with her on every point. Yet, it is arrogant and wrong of her to make going to war a matter of 'guts' when she, and the others present, have no intention of going to war themselves or sending their loved ones.
point of order....how can you HEAR the stench of appeasement in the air?....that is mixing your metaphors....you would surely SMELL the stench of appeasement, would you not??
I love the Socialists view of compassion... its always so pathetic and never really makes sense. Let us give compassion to a brutal dictator as he slaughters thousands of people. That stench of appeasement is strong in our current politics unfortunately.
Thatcher had no problem with Indonesia's invasion and occupation of East Timor, an infinitely worse act of aggression than Iraq's occupation of Kuwait. Her government sold heavy amounts of arms to Suharto's dictatorship. She had no problem enriching British arms companies by having a military relationship with Turkey even though Turkey was illegally and brutally occupying Cyprus. She had no problem selling arms and subsidizing British trade with Saddam before August 2nd 1990.
No I am not a muslim, I am British bred through and through and very proud to be British. I served in the British Army and was proud to have served my country. I have also served the community that I live in to try to make it a better community, and at the same time giving up a lot of my family duties to do so. I did not vote for Margaret Thatcher, and I still say that this country is better off without her. She was the perpetrator for all of the greed that we have today in this country
@topperheartramada Nopre, Reagan is said to have directly financed Jihadist rebels under Bin Laden fighting in Afghanistan, a fact that's had its evidence conveniently lost in time, but at the time it was very well documented and reported upon. Besides, this is nit-picking. The mujahadeen and the taliban are both jihadists formed from the same groups of people from which the Islamist government emerged, and were financed by the west when it suited them.
if scotland are in the soclisem game there independents whant last long and the english walsh and iresh should be acpted to pay for it now and should if it gose round we have polical sistem so lets keep the one we got and it works so way go making a new one that might not work and is morcomplicated we dont seal with that put threw to another thats britsh let me put you threw to scot sorry let me put you to govmeant of scotland then the concill let keep what works
The first Gulf War being referred to here did in fact work out quite peachy. It had a clear objective which was achieved quickly and with a relatively low body count. The second Gulf War is another matter.
No, a then weak Labour government,and the far left in charge of the trade unions, and the Labour Party,coupled with poor weak management, caused the problems.
"her vote was shrunk even lower" what are you talking about? She never lost an election. As for your last point, you have repeated this but it still doesn't make any sense.
Truly, Maggie Thatcher was little more than a thug. Flash forward [backward] to 2019, and the sort of "great woman" that Maggie Thatcher was, is now a CEO of a weapons manufacturing company. If you want to admire an English woman, leader, just go to back Elizabeth R., or maybe even Mary Queen of Scots; [if you can not recall Matilda, or at least Eleanor of Aquitaine]. Admiring Maggie Thatcher [Ronald Reagan, any Bush, or TRUMP], is all that is needed to prove that there is no such thing as evolution, progression, advancement, growth. If a woman has a spine: it is miraculous to men that she HAS one, NOT that she uses it well. Her knuckles chafed across the concrete, just as much as any, in captivity, gorilla.
"I seem to hear the stench of appeasement in here"
THUG LIFE.
Thug. Absolutely. Flash forward [backward] to 2019, and the sort of "great woman" that Maggie Thatcher was, is now a CEO of a weapons manufacturing company. If you want to admire an English woman, leader, just go to back Elizabeth R., or maybe even Mary Queen of Scots; if you can not remember Matilda, or at least Eleanor of Aquitaine... ha! Admiring Maggie Thatcher [Ronald Reagan, any Bush, or TRUMP], is all that is needed to prove that there is no such thing as evolution, progression, advancement, growth. If a woman has a spine: it is miraculous to men that she HAS one, NOT that she uses it well. Her knuckles chafed across the concrete, just as much as any gorilla.
@@elsaedwards7152 She beat your party like a drum thrice! Get over it snowflake!
@@elsaedwards7152 Pathetic comment.
Will the world ever have another person with the energy, demeanor, resolve and class of PM Margaret Thatcher? We need that person NOW!
She tells it like it is
C Mayford Sometimes but mostly not.
She was a modern Britanita, the Winston Churchill of the 80s.
She has more guts then man in that room. Amazing.
COME BACK MAGGIE!!!
How right she was.
Starts at 0:13
@thatcheritescot Negotiation ended the cuban missile crisis. Kennedy said, "take your missiles out of Cuba, and we'll take our missiles out of Turkey" and the Soviets said ok. Crisis ended. Khruschev was no less a dictator and no less agressive than Saddam Hussein. If negotiation could work in that case, I think that's a pretty good reason to think it could work in this one.
Not an equal comparison. What brought the Cuba crisis to a peaceful end was leaders on both sides becoming desperate to avoid a nuclear exchange and having to find a way out of it that still satisfied the hawks in their regimes. Had the Soviets actually invaded a US ally (as Saddam later did), Kennedy was committed to defending those allies with the nuke.
@@baxterbasics Taking the missiles out of Turkey didn't appease the hawks in the States. Kennedy had to do it secretly because the Republicans refused to cooperate with that strategy.
we need maggie back
I certainly have my criticisms of the late Lady Thatcher but she was spot on the Gulf. Saddam Hussein belonged to a political movement whose founders took inspiration from the Nazis with the view of creating a single Arab state in the Middle East. She was even more right in taking this decision and encouraging US action than she was in the Falklands.
no wonder Labour lost continuously against her though....she had the courage of her convictions basically....hard to unsettle
Maggie dropped the "A word"!
You just paid me the highest compliment i love thatcher and i find pigs cute ^-^ thank you
I bow to you Mam
loved the video ,telling it as it really was tat was Magic Maggie
The uploaders name is the 2nd best ive ever seen.
What was the best?
The only one that I know of that's anything like her is Benjamin Netanyahu.
She tells it like it is and some people find this not to their liking. The voters had a real choice and chose Maggie.
I'm using this line for those who pander to the alphabet soup group.
The stench of appeasement.
What does MT say, right after she says "I seem to hear the stench of appeasement in here" ???
God bless Maggie.
Did anyone ever proclaim the TRUTH as this courageous lady?
Sadly, we need so many more like her. R.I.P., Maggie.
Lol, parliament always looks like a reality TV show.
As the Yugoslavia of the Middle East, Iraq is a single country only while there is overwhelming military force to suppress mutually hostile ethnic and religious factions. The US supported Saddam Hussein as someone who could marshal that kind of military power in spite of his thuggish methods and in return he fought a proxy war for us against Iran. We didn't attack him because he invaded Kuwait; he'd simply outlived his usefulness.
The Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher was one of the Greatest Prime Minister's of the 20th Century a conviction politician defender of Democracy liberty's and freedom's a respected towering world figure Lady Thatcher's greatly and very sadly missed bless the late lady Thatcher 💐
Loving the new titles - I imagine Star Wars is next...?
She would not have done appeasement with hitler. Unlike others. Only my guess. From a little deplorable here.
Thatcher didn't need balls, she put everyone else's in a vice.
On what basis do you posit that? I should be interested in reading more from you on this - I haven't thought about it.
@thatcheritescot "But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 1960s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America." April Glaspie, US Ambassador to Iraq, just prior to the invasion of Kuwait.
@sondano Thank you so much for your deep analysis of my conscience. Because a stranger on You Tube has shown me the light with a quick quip I have rethought my stance on massive genocidal actions by tyrants. Thanks man, you have enlightened me.
Love her
From Wikipaedia "Many Muslims from other countries assisted the various mujahideen groups in Afghanistan. Some groups of these veterans have been significant factors in more recent conflicts in and around the Muslim world. Osama bin Laden, originally from a wealthy family in Saudi Arabia, was a prominent organizer and financier of an all-Arab Islamist group of foreign volunteers; his Maktab al-Khadamat funnelled money, arms, and Muslim fighters from around the Muslim world into Afghanistan"
Sacked by her own party and she a WINNER!. go to bed it's late.
@123HMatty Yeh, as a Tory I'd stay away from the Saddam Hussein issue if I were you. Under the Thatcher administration, Britain secretly gave arms aid to Saddam and assisted in building a chemical plant in Iraq, despite being fully aware that Saddam Hussein's troops gassed Iranian troops. Additionally, a Tory administration, working with Washington, helped the Baathists to power originally. Oh, and the Taliban got tons of aid too, when they were fighting the Russkis.
You can tell his idiot comments really riled her and well they might. They riled me.
Her reaction to the Farzad Bazoft execution was one of appeasement
Diplomacy is not the same as appeasement.
Cameron has half the stones this woman had.
Yet you forget even if Thatchers share of the vote fell, her majority stayed very strong and that the opposition (Labour) were beating eaten from the inside by Benn and the loonly left and the threat of the social democrats from the right, if Thatcher had stayed until 1997 I doubt there would of been a new labour ( Thatcher said she would go in 1997 if she had won until then )
Who is the MP that has the "stench of appeasement"?
I believe it was Andrew Faulds.
for heaven's sake
“A rather nauseating stench of appeasement.” If Blair and Bush had spoken as clearly as her, people might have listened to them about Iraq instead of getting their opinions from ignorant and hysterical celebrities like Elton John.
This woman has never fought a day in her life
oooooooooodaaaaaaaaa
That Man has no balls & galls ineptitudes & weak feeble acumen in defending thier allied country's Sovereign territories..Bring back the Iron Lady I wish in a form of another Brilliant diplomatic Man or at least like Churchill...the Lady isn't for turning indeed
I love Maggie and agree with her on every point. Yet, it is arrogant and wrong of her to make going to war a matter of 'guts' when she, and the others present, have no intention of going to war themselves or sending their loved ones.
point of order....how can you HEAR the stench of appeasement in the air?....that is mixing your metaphors....you would surely SMELL the stench of appeasement, would you not??
Don't get stuck in minutia. That's weak. Feeble.
Does that man think he is Napoleon?
I love the Socialists view of compassion... its always so pathetic and never really makes sense. Let us give compassion to a brutal dictator as he slaughters thousands of people. That stench of appeasement is strong in our current politics unfortunately.
How true how correct how accurate. I am not angry at Cameron but really mr Osborne you ar losing to mr balls. This is how you do it. Period.
Thatcher had no problem with Indonesia's invasion and occupation of East Timor, an infinitely worse act of aggression than Iraq's occupation of Kuwait. Her government sold heavy amounts of arms to Suharto's dictatorship. She had no problem enriching British arms companies by having a military relationship with Turkey even though Turkey was illegally and brutally occupying Cyprus. She had no problem selling arms and subsidizing British trade with Saddam before August 2nd 1990.
He must be french....
dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum
I DON'T WHAT THE YOU'RE ON ABOUT,I'VE NEVER SAID ANY OF THIS
Not true.
The Taliban was formed, in part, as a reaction against the Mujahideen. Different people, different aims, different 'crew'.
No I am not a muslim, I am British bred through and through and very proud to be British. I served in the British Army and was proud to have served my country. I have also served the community that I live in to try to make it a better community, and at the same time giving up a lot of my family duties to do so. I did not vote for Margaret Thatcher, and I still say that this country is better off without her. She was the perpetrator for all of the greed that we have today in this country
This almost looks scripted
Go for it
@bolloxinator
the Taliban did not exist until 1996
@Obasiliasfilosofos Well they did, but catering to pedantism, they were known as the "Mujahideen" in those days. Same crew.
@TheMessianicManic I love how all left wingers use the excuse of "negotiation" and "diplomacy" as the excuse of being spinless.
Yep.
Was just washing away your crap ...
@topperheartramada Nopre, Reagan is said to have directly financed Jihadist rebels under Bin Laden fighting in Afghanistan, a fact that's had its evidence conveniently
lost in time, but at the time it was very well documented and reported upon. Besides, this is nit-picking. The mujahadeen and the taliban are both jihadists formed from the same groups of people from which the Islamist government emerged, and were financed by the west when it suited them.
That person is there and is named nigel farage
@thatcheritescot The MP that Thatcher was haranguing takes my stance.
Maybe
"had she not been deposed prehaps the world would've been a better place today?"
No. Obviously not. Go back to reading the Daily Express.
Sigh. Where's Europe's version of Lady Thatcher?? Cuz Merkel aint it.
if scotland are in the soclisem game there independents whant last long and the english walsh and iresh should be acpted to pay for it now and should if it gose round we have polical sistem so lets keep the one we got and it works so way go making a new one that might not work and is morcomplicated we dont seal with that put threw to another thats britsh let me put you threw to scot sorry let me put you to govmeant of scotland then the concill let keep what works
I love how to right wingers any and all negotiation is "appeasement".
When an ally is invaded there is nothing to negotiate.
@@baxterbasics Ukraine is an ally, and Trump negotiated with Russia about it. Is Trump appeasing the Russians?
@@TMMx The ally wasn't just invaded, it was annexed in its totality. Annexation is orders of magnitude worse.
OMG what about that white wig lol
Yep we went to war with Iraq...... Well that's worked out just peachy hasn't it?
The first Gulf War being referred to here did in fact work out quite peachy. It had a clear objective which was achieved quickly and with a relatively low body count. The second Gulf War is another matter.
I LOVE that wig.
Thank god she has gone, she did more harm to this country than her predecessors.
No, a then weak Labour government,and the far left in charge of the trade unions, and the Labour Party,coupled with poor weak management, caused the problems.
The stench of Thatcherism.
42%? And that's a majority is it.
Of those that bothered to vote, yes.
She was deposed by her own party,say's it all.
yup, her colleagues were cowardly backstabbing sh!ts.
You must feel bad that her vote was shrunk even lower ,so her own party got rid of her...say's it all
"her vote was shrunk even lower" what are you talking about? She never lost an election. As for your last point, you have repeated this but it still doesn't make any sense.
Truly, Maggie Thatcher was little more than a thug.
Flash forward [backward] to 2019, and the sort of "great woman" that Maggie Thatcher was, is now a CEO of a weapons manufacturing company.
If you want to admire an English woman, leader, just go to back Elizabeth R., or maybe even Mary Queen of Scots; [if you can not recall Matilda, or at least Eleanor of Aquitaine]. Admiring Maggie Thatcher [Ronald Reagan, any Bush, or TRUMP], is all that is needed to prove that there is no such thing as evolution, progression, advancement, growth. If a woman has a spine: it is miraculous to men that she HAS one, NOT that she uses it well.
Her knuckles chafed across the concrete, just as much as any, in captivity, gorilla.