This 'Fair and Lovely' is really a kind of racism ! It's amazing to see that people with whiter skin want their skin to be tanned while people who are born with tanned skin are trying to become whiter ! This is the statement I've heard from a white neighbor at the pool that she wished her skin was brown/darker because it age very gracefully and less prone to skin disease !
+Sultry Roses but you made the comment so i think you do care. Also being american means your prob be exotic to some in india, its the dark skin indians that get the most hate.
Sultry Roses well now you can see that not ALL indians hate their skin, some fight against it everyday and have immense pride in themselves. life is not easy, but it annoys me the most when we spread racial lies and sterotypes against already vulnerable groups
"I am a South Indian, and I am Dark-Skinned, and I find all kind women attractive. Be with Dark and Pale. However, I am attracted more to Dark-skinned women."
anounaki Those heroines are from North :( who come to work in South Indian Films and they later get into Prostitution, South Indian women are get into ISRO and NASA and enjoy a quality life.
Not only White skin, but European facial features as well gets same Godly treatment.. Anyone with slightly more angular facial feature - sunken eyes, protruding brow-ridge, sharper nose, hollow cheeks, thin lips - or any combination of the above are considered prettier than those not ticking the above boxes.
+Val-schaeffer eurpeans are fair , but their skin are not smooth , hairy ( if u look carefully can see golden hair all over ) and they have brown patches all over body ,, even in face can see brown spots , i dont know is it a skin disease ?? but probably they are tall and have pointed nose ,,, i think german , french girls are prettier than US< UK, australli etc .. brazil , geramny , russia , india have beutiful looking girls ...Brazilain has a brownish skin,, but clear tone,,, russians are white like snow but clear skin ( no patches )
To be honest, facial features such as strong angles, wide jawlines, hollow cheeks,narrow eyes,etc. Are quite common of the Dravidians not the Aryans. The only thing they don't have is pointy noses but other than that Aryans usually have round faces and big eyes. A simple look at the depictions of various Hindu gods will reveal the soft features of a typical Aryan.
The most beautiful Indian woman I saw had a very dark complexion with straight shinning black hair. She was just stunning. I hope she does not fall for this BS of being fair. Women are color are beautiful. I do not see you they can not see that for themselves.
Nandita Das is definitely beautiful..dark is def. beautiful..i've always felt dark is attractive , but never felt white is beautiful...but still i dont discriminate..
80% of Bolly actors (almost 100% of male lead actors), and above 95% of TV actors are from Punjabi ethnic stock, and several shades towards Mediterranean than Indian average
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@kameran sehgal whole pakistan is of Indian origin. India has been India for centuries.
@ there was no state of India before 1947 both India and Pakistan came into existence after 13th august 1947 there was a whole region with 567 small and big princely states with their own kings, queens, and languages you can say Bengal was there as an entity for last 1000 years even Punjab but not the state of India furthermore Pakistan was not carved out of India nor it got separated from India the only region that got partitioned is Bengal and Punjab
this is so true even here in Pakistan , I remember going for a facial and being questioned by a family friend auntie 'which facial did u get?', I replied 'herbal', to which she sharply said 'whitening krati saari Dunya Kara rae hai!' for me it's a blessing I am comfortable in my skin tone, but bullying is real.
Look at Bollywood movies, light skinned are always the lead and dark-skinned are usually portrayed as the villains. It's sad that this is a universal problem...Asia Africa, America.
I don’t think so we have Kajol, Priyanka, Rani, Shilpa Shetty, Lara Dutta, Bipasha, Sushmita , Deepika & many more who have ruled Bollywood as equally as Aishwarya, Kareena, Karishma, Madhyuri, and many more. It can be the case in old Bollywood during 50-60s but not in present case. We embrace the ones who have confidence & good acting skills.
@@达努佳 it's not the same thing. Racism is discrimination based on your race, colourism is discrimination based on skin colour. People within your own race can bully you for having a dark complexion. Both are wrong but they're different issues.
+thehoneyeffect it affects many countries in the world. but in india it affects many people because some of the darkest people come from there. I like how there is a push in india now to challenge this...it mean today many indians do not believe in colourism
I was just reading about the Kareena Kapoor and Bipasha incident I know it's in the past but I didn't know Freida Pinto had issues with this too. I luv all women nothing but respect this is a global problem that roots to jealousy.
North indian media discussing about racism is like our politicians giving lecture about corruption ..... you north people first stop judging south people based on our skin tone
This mentality of fairness of skin relating to status or social standing is for the challenged mentally. I am african 100% and see color as differentiating factor of ones heritage and not status or levels of IQ. The lesser the IQ, the more one harbors such retrogressive and archaic sentiments. Just my take.
Banning fairness products would result in a situation similar to Prohibition in the US. The people want fairness products and they will acquire them legally or otherwise. If they are legal there can be a certain measure of oversight and control by the authorities. But when the industry is forced underground by prohibition, the criminal and the unscrupulous will take over. The whole situation will be akin to the drug traffic
The same senseless skin bleaching is widely practised throughout Africa! Only if they know: "BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL"! BLACK IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE. Nandita Das is Beautifully Gorgeous both inside and outside.
Indian entertainment industries don't employ black or dark skinned artists......, Evn if employed ......they vl play character roles......play the maid....labourer.....driver ....farmer nd all
Indian woman definitely is the most Beautifullest woman I have ever seen omg it's ridiculous I am jamaican by nationality on sub saharan black by race because of my parents on their ancestor, but honestly no black woman could not compete with these Beautiful goddess closest to indian beauty would be the horn of Africa like Ethiopians but I am talking about people with color in their skin since to a degree these people are pure excluding mix race but yea light skin is more exalted because obviously light skin is only more attractive depends on the type of woman but facial features is more attractive than them all so Indians have the most unique facial features so that means they are the better looking people
Padamsee is wrong at so many level... endowed women >> less endowed, Post menopause women >> 20 something... that does not justify fairer women >> darker.. Its like justifying racism using x-number of other discrimination that also exists in society.. Plus ageism is biologically more justified than Eurocentric beauty norms
Mr Padamsee's point is so off the mark. Lipstick and kajal are not a mark of discrimination but skin color is. And makeup is something you put on and take it off the same day. Skin color doesn't fit that criteria. If he was living hopefully he would've got the point!
Black & Brown ppl are Beautiful. A PERSON'S COLOR doesn't make them Better Than anyone; having Integrity, Morals, being a Responsible & a Peaceful Humanitarian that contribute to Society does. If people don't understand this, you are on the Wrong side of History & Part of the Problem. All humans are the same underneath the skin. My guess is you will realize this only if you need a dark skinned person's organ.
Alec's offending me on so many levels right now.. Barkha ji shouldn't be actually laughing to such statements of his I think, maybe slap verbally or whatever way😶😶
Fair skin draws attention faster. I'm sorry but that is the way of the world. That is why people want to be fair. Why do you think Parsis and Iranis ruled the mercantile roost in British India? Because they were exceptionally talented? No! Because they were fair and for some reason , fairness is linked with an assumption of competence. Dark skin simply doesn't draw your attention as fast, and therefore over generations, dark skinned individuals have to work harder to draw attention.
That fair and lovely man totally has a point. Non the less i disagree to what he is doing and what the media is doing however things such as makeup fake hair eyelashes, tanning, lighting, foundation, padded bras, padded knickers even! Is also just as wrong as a person becoming a lighter complexion. Oh and plastic surgery. So a women condeming lightenig whilst doing the all of the above is such a hypocrite therefore as i codemn these things and make my point i also stay awayfromotherfake resourcs
lets just stop it. its not racism. the fact is, it is an issue stemming from the British Raj, where people with fair skin were thought to be economically well off and influential. I say it isnt racial as it is people RIGHT NOW (like journalists and media ironically!) who have made it this way. I would expect Barkha Dutt to take a more holistic approach to such issues
I think the reason for white being attractive as a colour theoretically is obvious. It’s just about what the eye catches first, if I show you a black background image in contrast to white background image. Your eye will choose the white one cause the features in the foreground are more visible hence making it easier for eyes to catch - term ‘eye catchy’ hence more attractive. Same goes with people with white skin the features on face become more prominent & easier to catch by an eye than facial features on a darker skin. Hence it automatically becomes the first preference of your eye. So this is from where the term of being more attractive came from and people became obsessed with it. If you have to paint a room in your room you will prefer a lighter shade/ white over dark/black room. Cause white will make your eye trace around easier & making the other furniture /features of your room easily tracable. This is logical and scientific explanation of why light skin is more preferable than dark. And from this started out obsession with the fair. At the human level we should understand this scientific point and accept it while being more human and understanding that their should be no beauty standards. It lies in the eye of the beholder.
There's no problem with a dark person wanting to have a fairer complexion if they think that would make them look prettier...the problem is with these advertisements that link so many things like confidence, success, happiness to a fair complexion..they are unknowingly or knowingly trying to lower the confidence of those who love their complexion. Basically these is a marketing strategy where first you create the need and then make people believe that your product can fulfill this need with the aim of motivating people to buy your product. This is evil !!!
Using lipistick,kajal and using fair and lovely is somerhing quite different..its racial.its demeaning a paticular group of people , while lipistick kajal is used by every colour of women and this dosent demeen people but fairness products does..
This 'Fair and Lovely' is really a kind of racism ! It's amazing to see that people with whiter skin want their skin to be tanned while people who are born with tanned skin are trying to become whiter ! This is the statement I've heard from a white neighbor at the pool that she wished her skin was brown/darker because it age very gracefully and less prone to skin disease !
I love darker skin!!!
I'm black so I guess they would consider me to be very repulsive
+Sultry Rose Depends on how dark skinned you are.
I don't care really... Since I'm American and all
+Sultry Roses but you made the comment so i think you do care. Also being american means your prob be exotic to some in india, its the dark skin indians that get the most hate.
Henry Fung Well my heart goes out to those Indians 💜😃
Sultry Roses well now you can see that not ALL indians hate their skin, some fight against it everyday and have immense pride in themselves. life is not easy, but it annoys me the most when we spread racial lies and sterotypes against already vulnerable groups
"I am a South Indian, and I am Dark-Skinned, and I find all kind women attractive. Be with Dark and Pale. However, I am attracted more to Dark-skinned women."
anounaki You think all the South Indian women are dark ? If all are dark so what ?
anounaki South Indian women are into ISRO and NASA, North Indian women are into Fashion and Brothels.
anounaki Those heroines are from North :( who come to work in South Indian Films and they later get into Prostitution, South Indian women are get into ISRO and NASA and enjoy a quality life.
anounaki Sunitha Williams is an America, born in Ohio :( Ohio is not in North India :(
anounaki Her mother is a American of Slovene descent. She is more Slovene than an North Indian. :(
BUT WHY DARK KAJOL AND DEEPIKA PADUKONE AND PRIYAN KA DID SKIN LIGHTENING TREATMENT AND BECAME FAIR ??/
u r right
priyanka and deepika did not changed their skin tone
Most Bollywood male heroes are fair skinned.
Jesus Of Nazareth but they try to look as light as possible
@@jesusofnazareth666 Deepika ne ki hai
We can find beauty everywhere. Look at the ladies at 1:47. I looked at them and wanted to say, "Darlings, you are very lovely."
I think this discussion is awesome. It is just scratching the surface!!!
why this interview is cut abruptly I wanted to see the full episode personally any colour nature has given you is beautiful
DARK BEAUTY NANDITA DAS:)ROCKS
murali varier she is not dark. she is brown
Not only White skin, but European facial features as well gets same Godly treatment.. Anyone with slightly more angular facial feature - sunken eyes, protruding brow-ridge, sharper nose, hollow cheeks, thin lips - or any combination of the above are considered prettier than those not ticking the above boxes.
+Val-schaeffer eurpeans are fair , but their skin are not smooth , hairy ( if u look carefully can see golden hair all over ) and they have brown patches all over body ,, even in face can see brown spots , i dont know is it a skin disease ?? but probably they are tall and have pointed nose ,,, i think german , french girls are prettier than US< UK, australli etc .. brazil , geramny , russia , india have beutiful looking girls ...Brazilain has a brownish skin,, but clear tone,,, russians are white like snow but clear skin ( no patches )
To be honest, facial features such as strong angles, wide jawlines, hollow cheeks,narrow eyes,etc. Are quite common of the Dravidians not the Aryans. The only thing they don't have is pointy noses but other than that Aryans usually have round faces and big eyes. A simple look at the depictions of various Hindu gods will reveal the soft features of a typical Aryan.
Val-schaeffer because they are
The most beautiful Indian woman I saw had a very dark complexion with straight shinning black hair. She was just stunning. I hope she does not fall for this BS of being fair. Women are color are beautiful. I do not see you they can not see that for themselves.
Nadita is not only beautiful but also has a pleasant personality.
Nandita Das is definitely beautiful..dark is def. beautiful..i've always felt dark is attractive , but never felt white is beautiful...but still i dont discriminate..
80% of Bolly actors (almost 100% of male lead actors), and above 95% of TV actors are from Punjabi ethnic stock, and several shades towards Mediterranean than Indian average
@kameran sehgal whole pakistan is of Indian origin. India has been India for centuries.
@ there was no state of India before 1947 both India and Pakistan came into existence after 13th august 1947 there was a whole region with 567 small and big princely states with their own kings, queens, and languages you can say Bengal was there as an entity for last 1000 years even Punjab but not the state of India furthermore Pakistan was not carved out of India nor it got separated from India the only region that got partitioned is Bengal and Punjab
@kameran sehgal So what? Mahira Khan, Fawad Khan, and Imran Abbas are all from India originally.
this is so true even here in Pakistan , I remember going for a facial and being questioned by a family friend auntie 'which facial did u get?', I replied 'herbal', to which she sharply said 'whitening krati saari Dunya Kara rae hai!'
for me it's a blessing I am comfortable in my skin tone, but bullying is real.
Look at Bollywood movies, light skinned are always the lead and dark-skinned are usually portrayed as the villains. It's sad that this is a universal problem...Asia Africa, America.
I don’t think so we have Kajol, Priyanka, Rani, Shilpa Shetty, Lara Dutta, Bipasha, Sushmita , Deepika & many more who have ruled Bollywood as equally as Aishwarya, Kareena, Karishma, Madhyuri, and many more. It can be the case in old Bollywood during 50-60s but not in present case. We embrace the ones who have confidence & good acting skills.
Ban the fucking Fair and Lovely cream!
I fell in love for a dark beauti in my school. Ok
Aren't they talking about colourism. Its not racism. lol
I LoveNErdystuff both are same racism started in West when dark skinned people where asked not to mingle with fair skinned ones. Same here.
Same thing how do you think they treat black people. In Asian people constantly use black people as jokes.
@@达努佳 it's not the same thing. Racism is discrimination based on your race, colourism is discrimination based on skin colour. People within your own race can bully you for having a dark complexion. Both are wrong but they're different issues.
@@yumikogita a lot of roots of colourism started in racism
#Colourism
+thehoneyeffect it affects many countries in the world. but in india it affects many people because some of the darkest people come from there. I like how there is a push in india now to challenge this...it mean today many indians do not believe in colourism
I was just reading about the Kareena Kapoor and Bipasha incident I know it's in the past but I didn't know Freida Pinto had issues with this too. I luv all women nothing but respect this is a global problem that roots to jealousy.
Those who say india will be the last place where they want to be as a dark skinned person have never seen the rest of the world....I'm sure.....
Guy in purple reminded me of the Indian guy in movie 40 yrs old virgin.
North indian media discussing about racism is like our politicians giving lecture about corruption ..... you north people first stop judging south people based on our skin tone
Dark can be beautiful too, that saying is low key, black is beautiful
This mentality of fairness of skin relating to status or social standing is for the challenged mentally. I am african 100% and see color as differentiating factor of ones heritage and not status or levels of IQ. The lesser the IQ, the more one harbors such retrogressive and archaic sentiments. Just my take.
Brilliant discussion please attach link to the full video, thank you.
Wow so she is classified as dark in India???🤯🤯
There are more darker shade then this woman but she’s brown skin
Nanditha Sen rocks so damn pretty similar to Kittu Kidwani. Wow beauty with brains.
Its not racism it's colorism.
Mithun chakraborty is the biggest bollywood actor ever.He will tell you about how he made it despite drak skin he will be my favorite actor.
Banning fairness products would result in a situation similar to Prohibition in the US. The people want fairness products and they will acquire them legally or otherwise. If they are legal there can be a certain measure of oversight and control by the authorities. But when the industry is forced underground by prohibition, the criminal and the unscrupulous will take over. The whole situation will be akin to the drug traffic
This feels like a foreign Ricki Lake. This was very interesting to see this as a global issue and not just in the States
love your skin color no matter what , im latino and tanned-fair and i like to tan to have a brighter brown-orange color .
The lady in the red scarf doesn't look dark to me
Nindat Das you now, i believe you are such nice human being, it doesn't matter what colour the person is,
Such beautiful women, such beautiful complexions! Wish I could go back at least to visit my home.
The same senseless skin bleaching is widely practised throughout Africa!
Only if they know: "BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL"! BLACK IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE.
Nandita Das is Beautifully Gorgeous both inside and outside.
why is he talking over her ....that is so disrespectful .... WHAT HE IS SAYING MAKES NO SENSE ....
What obsession one has is his or her business.
I want to watch the whole episode.... can you please upload it.
I love this woman.. God bless you
Indian entertainment industries don't employ black or dark skinned artists......, Evn if employed ......they vl play character roles......play the maid....labourer.....driver ....farmer nd all
some of the most beautiful women on earth how sad that they can't get pass the skin and know how beautiful all tones are...
To you, perhaps, but not to them...
Indian woman definitely is the most Beautifullest woman I have ever seen omg it's ridiculous I am jamaican by nationality on sub saharan black by race because of my parents on their ancestor, but honestly no black woman could not compete with these Beautiful goddess closest to indian beauty would be the horn of Africa like Ethiopians but I am talking about people with color in their skin since to a degree these people are pure excluding mix race but yea light skin is more exalted because obviously light skin is only more attractive depends on the type of woman but facial features is more attractive than them all so Indians have the most unique facial features so that means they are the better looking people
why not upload the entire discussion?
Who says dark skin is ugly their heart r ugly tooooo
Padamsee is wrong at so many level... endowed women >> less endowed, Post menopause women >> 20 something... that does not justify fairer women >> darker..
Its like justifying racism using x-number of other discrimination that also exists in society..
Plus ageism is biologically more justified than Eurocentric beauty norms
I don;t think it's racism, it's skinism.. race is same for all: Indian. But skin is different.
it's called colour discrimination
colourism
aakksshhaayy skins? it's racism buddy, any discrimination based on any difference is racism now.
Nandita Das does not look "dark". She is the most beautiful woman in the show.
Nandita Das is dark and she is so attractive. White chicks will pay a million dollars to get her tone.
I really like this show I like to hear Indian women express themselves cuz were I'm from they are too shy to speak
,,,,,,, Lots of love (Nandhu mam),,,,,, God bless you,,,,,,, Kerala
Please upliad the full video
She still didn't explain why she remained so confident with herself. She needs to explain it to her Indian countrywomen and men.
Mr Padamsee's point is so off the mark. Lipstick and kajal are not a mark of discrimination but skin color is. And makeup is something you put on and take it off the same day. Skin color doesn't fit that criteria.
If he was living hopefully he would've got the point!
Damn. What a conversation dark vs light
That guy just killed himself who is promoting fairness products with those arguements.
Got luv for Indian women so amazing they can cook outstanding and they're beautiful
would have been a great discussion if the host didn't keep butting in with silly remarks
Black & Brown ppl are Beautiful. A PERSON'S COLOR doesn't make them Better Than anyone; having Integrity, Morals, being a Responsible & a Peaceful Humanitarian that contribute to Society does. If people don't understand this, you are on the Wrong side of History & Part of the Problem. All humans are the same underneath the skin. My guess is you will realize this only if you need a dark skinned person's organ.
If you have a white skin fetish that’s your business But why must you hate and attack dark skinned people. Seems like extreme self hate.
I don't know why Indian boys are back of fair girls
please shagun ko raman ki zindigi main lelo Singh not all
please shagun ko raman ki zindigi main lelo Singh not all
Unfortunately, most Indian guys are racist towards darker skinned Indian girls.
People notice cultural differences. It is "that" simple. Drop a Western girl into the show, and everyone would glance at her.
Where i can watch the full interview? ?
Alec's offending me on so many levels right now.. Barkha ji shouldn't be actually laughing to such statements of his I think, maybe slap verbally or whatever way😶😶
But in the other hand guys are okay with girls with dark skin complexion but indian girls they want a guy with fair skin tone for sure
I can't focus on the debate coz of the girl in green. Lol
Where i can watched full episode?
Fair skin draws attention faster. I'm sorry but that is the way of the world.
That is why people want to be fair.
Why do you think Parsis and Iranis ruled the mercantile roost in British India? Because they were exceptionally talented? No! Because they were fair and for some reason , fairness is linked with an assumption of competence.
Dark skin simply doesn't draw your attention as fast, and therefore over generations, dark skinned individuals have to work harder to draw attention.
Good old days, easy breezy debates
That fair and lovely man totally has a point. Non the less i disagree to what he is doing and what the media is doing however things such as makeup fake hair eyelashes, tanning, lighting, foundation, padded bras, padded knickers even! Is also just as wrong as a person becoming a lighter complexion. Oh and plastic surgery. So a women condeming lightenig whilst doing the all of the above is such a hypocrite therefore as i codemn these things and make my point i also stay awayfromotherfake resourcs
why are these program so short? only a few minutes
Ndtv aag lagane mein expert
Every race is racist but never let racism control your way of life ......
The green girl is hot ang gorgeous. Eyes are hypnotic
lets just stop it. its not racism.
the fact is, it is an issue stemming from the British Raj, where people with fair skin were thought to be economically well off and influential. I say it isnt racial as it is people RIGHT NOW (like journalists and media ironically!) who have made it this way. I would expect Barkha Dutt to take a more holistic approach to such issues
That make up man made more sense to his position. He wins.
I think the reason for white being attractive as a colour theoretically is obvious. It’s just about what the eye catches first, if I show you a black background image in contrast to white background image. Your eye will choose the white one cause the features in the foreground are more visible hence making it easier for eyes to catch - term ‘eye catchy’ hence more attractive. Same goes with people with white skin the features on face become more prominent & easier to catch by an eye than facial features on a darker skin. Hence it automatically becomes the first preference of your eye. So this is from where the term of being more attractive came from and people became obsessed with it. If you have to paint a room in your room you will prefer a lighter shade/ white over dark/black room. Cause white will make your eye trace around easier & making the other furniture /features of your room easily tracable. This is logical and scientific explanation of why light skin is more preferable than dark. And from this started out obsession with the fair.
At the human level we should understand this scientific point and accept it while being more human and understanding that their should be no beauty standards. It lies in the eye of the beholder.
Wearing makeup and championing dark skin what kind of debate is that
where is the fucking full episode...
Alleque Padamsee hit the nail by bringing in lipsticks, kajal & padded bras.
Come on Beyonce Rihanna are not fair enough, gtfoh
Well replied 5.14 she is being trolled
There's no problem with a dark person wanting to have a fairer complexion if they think that would make them look prettier...the problem is with these advertisements that link so many things like confidence, success, happiness to a fair complexion..they are unknowingly or knowingly trying to lower the confidence of those who love their complexion. Basically these is a marketing strategy where first you create the need and then make people believe that your product can fulfill this need with the aim of motivating people to buy your product. This is evil !!!
how about people around the world using tan the other way too .. we have to educate people ..
Using lipistick,kajal and using fair and lovely is somerhing quite different..its racial.its demeaning a paticular group of people , while lipistick kajal is used by every colour of women and this dosent demeen people but fairness products does..
Why not we the MUSLIMS, THINK ...............ML INDIA
Seven year before you presented this
Its individual choice whether or not to use fairness creams just as it is a choice whether to shave or retain pubic hair!
I don't think whitening products must be banned.but people should realise that it is pointless product
That lady talking isnt even dark skinned there are far darker skinned women in india than her but you rarely see them .
I love barkha here
2000 crore ndtv wants a part of money from the fairness company
aren't they woman who use fairness creams?
Ironically indian know as dark brown color people in west
5:5 epic😁😁😁😁
The left sitting woman 😂😂😂😂😂
English mein be fair and not dark
Tujhe kyu aag kyu lag rahi ndtv
5:09 pel diya
Ndtv accepts it's bias aur bikau