Pre Big Bang I got my Hero to 167. Class was such shit and I always hoped it would've been buffed. I remember how quick things went once I got Brandish.
Having tried it, I personally feel like in the early game you can tackle more bosses with paladin. You certainly have less damage, and I hate that at level 217 I can't even oneshot most mobs in vj, but with how long certain boss fights take at low stats, being near unkillable helps so so much. You can ignore a lot of mechanics, chaos von bon and chaos pierre basically can't kill you unless you basically try to make it happen, while with chaos queen you really only need to worry about the mirror, damage reflect, undead and the succ. The burn is a non factor and you can tank the breath no problem, the hearts won't be able to kill you either, the scratches are only annoying when they seal your skills. Chaos vellum... the only thing you can't really ignore is the breath. Of course, with cvel low damage means you may just run out of time, while with pierre you sadly lack the burst to avoid the split, which actually makes it the hardest to kill of the four. Hero needs to deal with all those mechs normally, which will require a decent bit of extra stats to pull off unless you're a god at those bosses.
Why everyone plays hero? Because 15+ years ago, I saw a video of 4th job hero fighting horntail and how much damage they did and I thought that was swell. Also the spinny circles are neat.
My very first character in Maplestory was a Hero. He's sitting abandoned at level 132 in Scania right now (leveling back then was hard, okay!?), but I'm planning on training up a new one in Reboot.
Hot diggity nice job on this video man, 11/10 loved the quality of coverage on every aspect of this class, I started hero as soon as they buffed it last year and it was amazing feeling the balance of mobbing vs. bossing.
here's a crazy reason why i played a Hero: when i was a Bishop i watched in envy when i saw the coma skill working on the goby fish somewhere in aqua road. how they all came bursting out of the house and just KO'd immediately in a neat stack of $. as a Bishop that played a supporting role back before or right after Big Bang, that kind of attacking power made me quit Bishop and start a Hero. also the amount of HP. it was such a contrast to a mage. my second favourite class was the Battle Mage when it first came out, because it had both support skills, survivability and power. it was the class that i got furthest, to 187 iirc, back then when MapleStory was a painful grind and 200 was as far as you could go. oh, and the ribgol sword was sweet.
while ive been enjoying the why everyone plays or why no one plays series i feel like both the best and worst of classes are p commonly talked about within the community. i think itd be more interesting to go over some middle of the pack classes and highlight what they do well and whats holding them back. maybe like a “why more people should play” type beat?
So in other words: good at mobbing, great at bossing, very easy to play. No wonder it's so popular. :D Before the Red update, what balanced Hero was its mobbing. It was just awful. Now they fixed that, and we have results right here. (Thank god they didn't keep unlimited dash, that would be insane.) By the way, why there is an option to play both swords and axe for this class? If I understand correctly, an axe gets better bonuses, so why would you want to use swords on Hero?
@@coppersan Yeah, but that's why it's... well, I don't want to say, useless. After all, it's an additional option, and that's always nice. But unnecessary? Who doesn't want to deal more damage? :D
Lots of hero’s use swords for two reasons. First, people is like the look. The old raging bow had a different animation for an axe and it did not look very good. Second, if you had a job change coin, you can switch to paladin and if you have a sword you don’t need to make a new weapon. I believe this is the last job change coin, and now both animations are the same, so most players are taking axes now unless you really like the sword look.
I've never played Hero when it was in a good shape. It was my first character when GMS launched and I played until some time after third job released. When crusader came out I was already around level 90. Then I quit for a while and came back after 4th job released and was about 130. it's kinda funny to think what used to take days and weeks can be done in an afternoon now leveling wise, but also just that the class has finally caught up with most others. Nobody partied at coolies and a warrior would just get KS'd out, nobody wanted a crusader in Ludi since DKs had hyper body. I hear we were great in the big foot era but I didn't play then. Haven't touched the game in like 8 years but I've been tempted to fuck around for a little bit lately
242 f2p Hero main here; I literally never thought to use Puncture for mobbing, it feels so much slower for me. I usually set down my sword since it one shots, and I'm currently working my nodes so that Beam Blade can one shot, as it feels really nice to use it to smack stuff from really far away. lol
@@Steelilbies Interesting. It does seem like its useful in very large maps that seem to be getting more common. 50% normal monster bonus is good too, though I hate that I can't really double jump > puncture, then immediately double jump again, feels slightly clunky for my hands.
Also a hero main, I never use puncture for mobbing. While it does have a bigger hitbox, raging blow is in your trio so at high level maps often raging blow will one shot where puncture does not. Personally I use puncture only as a reach skill for extra high platforms, assuming it one shots.
@@Macaltar savior gives the cardinal burst and deluge skill an additional line of damage and they get a new skill that lets them lock the type of curse they’re using. I believe they also get slight damage buffs elsewhere
Funny thing is for as many characters I leveled, I never got around Hero and Paladin. I'm not a fan of warriors and their link/legion skills aren't worth anything for the magicians I liked to play.
Hero main, always used to play 1h axe back in the day but switched to 2H ~3 years ago. Recently been working on 1H axe + secondary (cant remember name) thinking it might be better now esp with the recent speed increase for 1h. You still say 2H is better? (Mid/End game)
I haven’t played maple in years but I am pleased to hear my main class is viable now… I would love to go back but I recently saw those state of GMS vids 😬😬😬
Honestly now is a great time to come back. Don’t let those vids turn you off. The game is in an amazing state right now and the anniversary event is going on which can get you a bunch of free gear for a new character! Give it a shot
I’m a pretty low level player myself, and personally I’m really enjoying the game at the moment. Maybe the game gets bad around level 250, but where I am 200 - 230, it’s still fun, so I’d say you may as well give it a go, you can always stop playing if you aren’t enjoying it
Im trying to re-incorporate to maplestory, i played for like 15years but now i dont have idea of whats what lmao, i've seen theres new server called luna, all my characters were in scania idk if i should start fresh or try to bring my old guys back in shape, or if those classes are even worth playing anymore guess im going to find out soon
i had my mains in Scania, played GMS when Mercedes, Demonslayer, and cannonneer came out, then quit. Played again when kaiser came out, then quit again. Now im back again and playing reboot. I'd say, if you truely enjoy grinding and fair progression with zero pay to win aspect, jump right into the Reboot. it really helps if you have any friends that's high level because reboot is all about Meso to upgrade everything and all your gears are dropped by bosses and quests. but you can definitely solo play till you find a decent guild to have the members to carry you in bossing. i think it's worth playing again with a fresh start in reboot. im certainly enjoying it. if you had taken a long break, there's a lot of things to catch up on but plenty of videos available to help you get up to speed. There will be a new event starting with Khalie class releast on June 14th. i highly recommend you jump in! there's something called Tera burning for Khali, which gives you triple the level up till 200 and all gears provided with time limit. And there's something called hyper burning which you get tripple leveling till lv 250. any class of your choice when you start it.
I played hero from pre-big bang to just before the red update before I quit, coming back to hero after not doing any research on their development, nexon did right by giving hero the remake it desperately needed, combo attack and brandish now being 2nd job skills when it was 3rd and 4th respectively was a nightmare to grind using the first job att for 110 levels
Dawn Warrior is superior. Rival on the dmg department, losing to Hero on burst tho, but consistently hit like a truck with big hitbox skill. A debuff giving the whole team 11% fd, which is massive btw, and uptime 100%. 4 s in 2 skill, one with 45s which is enough. Mobbing is braindead easy, rotation 5th clear the whole map.
I think I dread the episode "Why nobody plays Xenon" while I'm aiming to take down NLoMien and NLucid in under 1 min per phase (2 min for last phase). 😂
IC went from 240 to 120 cd ,puncture isn't always best for grinding its just better on some maps. [270 hero main :D] hero needs to be buffed (: #buffhero!
On maple M it has the hashtag #rarejob tho 😮. And I always thought it was less popular compared to other classes, especially other warrior classes... 🤔 Oh right, like you said it didn't use to be popular.
Grinding for exp and meso, but bossing to get new gear, mobs no longer drop gear post lvl 140. I would say bossing have a higher priority since every class have AOE 1 shot mobbing these days.
Weirdly enough I still have a hate for Hero. before he got his boost jump and all other classes had one I remember having to walk everywhere and it felt terrible. mine is still ignored and is only level 135 despite being made YEARS ago and with all these leveling events, quite literally my first character. I hope eventually I can put my bad memories behind me and continue playing them. EDIT: Yes i know early on no one had a boost jump and mages were the only save and grace with teleports, it was just the perfect timeframe for when Hero was for some reason one of the only classes with ought one which made me dislike them.
DONT PICK HERO IT IS SHIT THE SKILLS ARE TOO FLASHY N BRIGHT IT HURTS UR EYE!!! (ESP IF U TURN ON COMBO) BUT IF U DONT TURN ON COMBO, U LOSE HALF UR DMG
To All my fellow Heros that played back in the day; It was not easy, and I salute you.
And I salute you, too. Swordsman was my original main back in the pre-4th job days. I still main Hero, but this time on reboot.
selling big foot leech, those were the days
Pre Big Bang I got my Hero to 167. Class was such shit and I always hoped it would've been buffed. I remember how quick things went once I got Brandish.
Lol our mobbing was so bad for years.
I liked using coma and shout against mythril mutees... good times.
Been a Hero main since beta, and I love it, aiming to be top 20 of heroes in Bera (broke top 100 so far)
how come you’re still playing Bera, and not Reboot? Genuine question, i used to play Bera but it just seems so empty and dead now.
Honestly it's just difficult for me to uproot and move to a new server after the progress I've made, plus I've got friends who play in bera
Hero's raging blow attack motion after the remake is so much cooler now :pogs:
But it's only sword animation, even when you use axe :(
@ yea they went two steps forward to take one step back in my opinion when it comes to that. Not only with hero but paladin as well.
Having tried it, I personally feel like in the early game you can tackle more bosses with paladin. You certainly have less damage, and I hate that at level 217 I can't even oneshot most mobs in vj, but with how long certain boss fights take at low stats, being near unkillable helps so so much. You can ignore a lot of mechanics, chaos von bon and chaos pierre basically can't kill you unless you basically try to make it happen, while with chaos queen you really only need to worry about the mirror, damage reflect, undead and the succ. The burn is a non factor and you can tank the breath no problem, the hearts won't be able to kill you either, the scratches are only annoying when they seal your skills. Chaos vellum... the only thing you can't really ignore is the breath. Of course, with cvel low damage means you may just run out of time, while with pierre you sadly lack the burst to avoid the split, which actually makes it the hardest to kill of the four.
Hero needs to deal with all those mechs normally, which will require a decent bit of extra stats to pull off unless you're a god at those bosses.
I’ve just come back to maple and hero is my first and only character. Nice to know I’ve picked a good one!
Why everyone plays hero? Because 15+ years ago, I saw a video of 4th job hero fighting horntail and how much damage they did and I thought that was swell. Also the spinny circles are neat.
My very first character in Maplestory was a Hero. He's sitting abandoned at level 132 in Scania right now (leveling back then was hard, okay!?), but I'm planning on training up a new one in Reboot.
Glad Nexon made Hero easy and strong - great for new players or returning players.
Hot diggity nice job on this video man, 11/10 loved the quality of coverage on every aspect of this class, I started hero as soon as they buffed it last year and it was amazing feeling the balance of mobbing vs. bossing.
here's a crazy reason why i played a Hero: when i was a Bishop i watched in envy when i saw the coma skill working on the goby fish somewhere in aqua road. how they all came bursting out of the house and just KO'd immediately in a neat stack of $. as a Bishop that played a supporting role back before or right after Big Bang, that kind of attacking power made me quit Bishop and start a Hero. also the amount of HP. it was such a contrast to a mage. my second favourite class was the Battle Mage when it first came out, because it had both support skills, survivability and power. it was the class that i got furthest, to 187 iirc, back then when MapleStory was a painful grind and 200 was as far as you could go. oh, and the ribgol sword was sweet.
Why is this not just a four minute forty four second video of speedrunning a Hero to lvl 200 with Holding Out For A Hero playing in the background?
Hero's are in a great place right now. Minor thing but Instinctual Combo used to be 240s cd not 180s :)
while ive been enjoying the why everyone plays or why no one plays series i feel like both the best and worst of classes are p commonly talked about within the community. i think itd be more interesting to go over some middle of the pack classes and highlight what they do well and whats holding them back. maybe like a “why more people should play” type beat?
Yessss
I can't decide so viewers please offer your opinion. Hero or Bucc as a main?
Thanks
So in other words: good at mobbing, great at bossing, very easy to play. No wonder it's so popular. :D
Before the Red update, what balanced Hero was its mobbing. It was just awful. Now they fixed that, and we have results right here.
(Thank god they didn't keep unlimited dash, that would be insane.)
By the way, why there is an option to play both swords and axe for this class? If I understand correctly, an axe gets better bonuses, so why would you want to use swords on Hero?
You could use either but you'd lose the damage buff that axes give 🪓
@@coppersan Yeah, but that's why it's... well, I don't want to say, useless. After all, it's an additional option, and that's always nice. But unnecessary? Who doesn't want to deal more damage? :D
@@MaxBurnHeart if u go with sword u can job change to pally and keep the same weapon.
@@MaxBurnHeartsword can easily change to pally if you want something new, and sword looks better than axe for many people
Lots of hero’s use swords for two reasons. First, people is like the look. The old raging bow had a different animation for an axe and it did not look very good. Second, if you had a job change coin, you can switch to paladin and if you have a sword you don’t need to make a new weapon. I believe this is the last job change coin, and now both animations are the same, so most players are taking axes now unless you really like the sword look.
I've never played Hero when it was in a good shape. It was my first character when GMS launched and I played until some time after third job released. When crusader came out I was already around level 90. Then I quit for a while and came back after 4th job released and was about 130. it's kinda funny to think what used to take days and weeks can be done in an afternoon now leveling wise, but also just that the class has finally caught up with most others. Nobody partied at coolies and a warrior would just get KS'd out, nobody wanted a crusader in Ludi since DKs had hyper body. I hear we were great in the big foot era but I didn't play then. Haven't touched the game in like 8 years but I've been tempted to fuck around for a little bit lately
242 f2p Hero main here; I literally never thought to use Puncture for mobbing, it feels so much slower for me. I usually set down my sword since it one shots, and I'm currently working my nodes so that Beam Blade can one shot, as it feels really nice to use it to smack stuff from really far away. lol
Puncture has a higher hitbox, so it can hit higher platforms than bs. Plus, it has built-in damage to normal monster bonus.
@@Steelilbies Interesting. It does seem like its useful in very large maps that seem to be getting more common. 50% normal monster bonus is good too, though I hate that I can't really double jump > puncture, then immediately double jump again, feels slightly clunky for my hands.
Also a hero main, I never use puncture for mobbing. While it does have a bigger hitbox, raging blow is in your trio so at high level maps often raging blow will one shot where puncture does not. Personally I use puncture only as a reach skill for extra high platforms, assuming it one shots.
we need "Why EVERYONE Plays Pathfinder" please
Simple, big numbers
Are they going to remaster PF soon?
@@Macaltar savior gives the cardinal burst and deluge skill an additional line of damage and they get a new skill that lets them lock the type of curse they’re using. I believe they also get slight damage buffs elsewhere
@@chrispoznichlocking the curse could make attack speed important because of not needing to switch the gauges with the macro 😮
Why ur weapon with 160 WA but ur att range can reach 1m😢
Shame Nexon nerfed Hero's aesthetic into the dirt over time. Clearly our pink combo runes and blue explosion from Rage were too strong.
Great video, next we need a "why everyone should play Mihile"
Funny thing is for as many characters I leveled, I never got around Hero and Paladin. I'm not a fan of warriors and their link/legion skills aren't worth anything for the magicians I liked to play.
Hero main, always used to play 1h axe back in the day but switched to 2H ~3 years ago. Recently been working on 1H axe + secondary (cant remember name) thinking it might be better now esp with the recent speed increase for 1h. You still say 2H is better? (Mid/End game)
Fellow Hero main here, IIRC 2H axe is the way to go unless you can get a really good terminus defender(20* and up)
2H axe is BIS (best in slot) for reboot. 1H axe and shield is BIS for reg server.
I'll be on shortly after hockey fix :)
So which ones are better choices for mooobiiingg and bossing??? Please i need help with that
Good lord what is that glorious BGM he uses in the outro?!
Any chance to see Mercedes or xenon soon? Trying to pick a sub main for savior hyper burn ;)
Great video. How about "Why EVERYONE Plays Adele" in your upcoming videos?
instictual combo used to have 4 min cd not 3. good video
I haven’t played maple in years but I am pleased to hear my main class is viable now… I would love to go back but I recently saw those state of GMS vids 😬😬😬
Honestly now is a great time to come back. Don’t let those vids turn you off. The game is in an amazing state right now and the anniversary event is going on which can get you a bunch of free gear for a new character! Give it a shot
@@MionMikan it's great if you have the money :)
you don't need money if you play reboot and that were most people play
I’m a pretty low level player myself, and personally I’m really enjoying the game at the moment. Maybe the game gets bad around level 250, but where I am 200 - 230, it’s still fun, so I’d say you may as well give it a go, you can always stop playing if you aren’t enjoying it
Which recommend me two hande axe+ secondary or one hande axe + shield?
Power slash for 120 levels...some how I made it to lvl 90 before quitting.
Im trying to re-incorporate to maplestory, i played for like 15years but now i dont have idea of whats what lmao, i've seen theres new server called luna, all my characters were in scania idk if i should start fresh or try to bring my old guys back in shape, or if those classes are even worth playing anymore guess im going to find out soon
i had my mains in Scania, played GMS when Mercedes, Demonslayer, and cannonneer came out, then quit. Played again when kaiser came out, then quit again. Now im back again and playing reboot. I'd say, if you truely enjoy grinding and fair progression with zero pay to win aspect, jump right into the Reboot. it really helps if you have any friends that's high level because reboot is all about Meso to upgrade everything and all your gears are dropped by bosses and quests. but you can definitely solo play till you find a decent guild to have the members to carry you in bossing. i think it's worth playing again with a fresh start in reboot. im certainly enjoying it. if you had taken a long break, there's a lot of things to catch up on but plenty of videos available to help you get up to speed.
There will be a new event starting with Khalie class releast on June 14th. i highly recommend you jump in! there's something called Tera burning for Khali, which gives you triple the level up till 200 and all gears provided with time limit.
And there's something called hyper burning which you get tripple leveling till lv 250. any class of your choice when you start it.
This is the only explorer class I don't have. Gonna change my Jett into it.
I played hero from pre-big bang to just before the red update before I quit, coming back to hero after not doing any research on their development, nexon did right by giving hero the remake it desperately needed, combo attack and brandish now being 2nd job skills when it was 3rd and 4th respectively was a nightmare to grind using the first job att for 110 levels
Should a hero use a 2h axe? And if not why?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought he had a brother or something that ran the channel with him whatever happened to that?
How does Hero Compare to Dawn Warrior? I haven’t played either one but thinking about hyperburning one of those two for savior
Dawn Warrior is superior. Rival on the dmg department, losing to Hero on burst tho, but consistently hit like a truck with big hitbox skill.
A debuff giving the whole team 11% fd, which is massive btw, and uptime 100%.
4 s in 2 skill, one with 45s which is enough.
Mobbing is braindead easy, rotation 5th clear the whole map.
I really love both classes. Make both, both are great bossers. Hero is my main, but I am working on a DW for bossing and more.
one is hero and another is with down syndown
Can you make one of these for Cannon Master tho?
How much final damage do you want?
Hero : Yes
I think I dread the episode "Why nobody plays Xenon" while I'm aiming to take down NLoMien and NLucid in under 1 min per phase (2 min for last phase). 😂
Hero's my old main, now it's Pathfinder.
what do you think, will they ever get a successful up jump like bow maser or shadower..not that damn skill button...
Because he has his own theme in the New Age update
Pretty sure that’s supposed to be the hero group (Aran, Evan, Lumi, etc)
Hello there, worth playing from 0 on reboot?
why is braindead spam class always stronger than unique class that doesnt just spam their skill? 🤷♀️
dude, i love you. Idk man i just do, you know it just happens XD
IC went from 240 to 120 cd ,puncture isn't always best for grinding its just better on some maps. [270 hero main :D] hero needs to be buffed (: #buffhero!
kanna video when? i main her and want to figure out how to make her more powerful 😊
coppersan is mobbing on his main?
hero it's cool class and wipe fast but pain to hop around for grind in long time.
On maple M it has the hashtag #rarejob tho 😮. And I always thought it was less popular compared to other classes, especially other warrior classes... 🤔
Oh right, like you said it didn't use to be popular.
Hero are prob one of my job i hate the most lol i switched from pal to hero and it felt quite horrible.
Ah...
This job is my Main.
Although this name (NathRebornsK) is Mihile's name.
😅
Hero is such a good mule in reg server with all that final damage lol
just buy an ultimatum ring from AH and you're ready to burst Lotus and Damien
when talk about shade?
Burning a Paladin then swapping Hero once I'm geared.
This is destiny patch?
nothing like it was in 2006 xD i was a fighter in 2006.
his class is literally called Hero. He's THE ONE
LMAO I made a Hero recently and i just realised I have a dash at level 226...
I hated this class because i thought i have 0 mobility
Yo Hero main here from MSEA :D
because he is the hero
Maybe we need “Why someone still play Mercedes”
Do blaster next
You titled you video wrong. "why everyone plays hero *except coppersan"
I'd play it too if all my gear didn't need psok's to transfer over. My hero even has attack speed +1 T_T
Hero saved me from being a functional adult
what is the trend play style in current maple? is like like grinding more or bossing more? a player who wish to return but busy at work..wwwww
Grinding for exp and meso, but bossing to get new gear, mobs no longer drop gear post lvl 140.
I would say bossing have a higher priority since every class have AOE 1 shot mobbing these days.
Im main hero, need a guide for trio skills v matrix please
Final attack/raging blow/rising rage (most important) and beam blade/ cry valhalla / flashblade
@@Niegezien I think swapping cry Valhalla and rising rage is meta now, but if you are running 4x boosts it makes zero difference
Why EVERYONE Quits Maple coming soon?
Easy to play but limited options because of that which is what I don't like about it
Buff Hero!
nooooo!!!
delete hero a la jett, buff lara
Hero needs to be buffed for sure
Please do ark!
Weirdly enough I still have a hate for Hero. before he got his boost jump and all other classes had one I remember having to walk everywhere and it felt terrible. mine is still ignored and is only level 135 despite being made YEARS ago and with all these leveling events, quite literally my first character. I hope eventually I can put my bad memories behind me and continue playing them.
EDIT: Yes i know early on no one had a boost jump and mages were the only save and grace with teleports, it was just the perfect timeframe for when Hero was for some reason one of the only classes with ought one which made me dislike them.
Oh i feel ya. A piggy mount was absolutely necessary
commenting for the algorithm
在中国大陆的服务器没有人玩英雄😂😂😂
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8th! ... that's impressive ... right? :(
Look at paladin
Ah, the hero; the Dawn Warriors weaker and less attractive older sibling.
I watch vars too xd
nerf bucc;
delete hero;
buff lara
nerf bucc? why?
@@fabiorojas7058 because my maplestory husband also mains bucc besides hero and he's too strong, we gotta nerf him
Day 2 of asking for f/p
Why EVERYONE plays Demon Slayer
Just wtf has this game become..
DONT PICK HERO IT IS SHIT THE SKILLS ARE TOO FLASHY N BRIGHT IT HURTS UR EYE!!! (ESP IF U TURN ON COMBO) BUT IF U DONT TURN ON COMBO, U LOSE HALF UR DMG
Turn down your skill transparency brother
That's true for basically every class worth playing lol
uh most of the legendary skills I have on my characters are the 13% drop rate is that good or should I change it