DFA, a PC clan, runs folks through the incursion multiple times a week. I've done the Incursion about 140 times running people through, and normally run as a healer. We always go straight to the area in front of the loot room and regularly get flawless runs. But it does require communication, which you obviously don't get in a random group. The healer must have Technician, and someone else with the booster hive. As soon as the drone goes down you overcharge and the booster hive is dropped. As soon as the healer's hive gets back above 30 charges the healer drops that. This gives you the Faraday Cage effect which means the team can't be disrupted. We also use The Setup backpack with Perfectly Opportunistic as it increases damage to the Lovebirds. And we use more skill haste and just 2 skill repair attributes - BTSU gloves and the backpack. Healer is responsible for proc'ing sledge and the three DPS players focus on killing Johnson and Martinez at about the same time. That way you avoid the final round of mortars. Very doable, but everyone needs to understand their role and you need a lot of DPS. You were fortunate in that everyone you ran with had an idea of what to do. That isn't always the case, and it makes the biggest difference with the Lovebirds. If someone hasn't been through the incursion before, they'd be completely lost trying to run with randoms. That's probably why this is called the impossible challenge, because it is impossible for someone who doesn't understand all the mechanics. And it usually takes several runs before you have that down, and that's just focusing on one thing in each area of the Incursion. Fantastic that you made it through though. I think it's very much a case of "your mileage may vary", and you have to be willing to take a while.
Definitely, experience will make or break the run. But I tried to simulate the "randomness" of it as much as possible, so I was lucky with the picks! Hopefully anyone nervous to jump in can research the fights before trying 👍
@@RogueGold That's key. If you want to run, understand what you're doing before you start. Doesn't matter whether that's an incursion, raid, or anything else. 😁
Yeah that healer setup for deployable shield users who can really know what a gun build boosters decoy thats what you need. Also you can ,,glicth out’’ the big guy so techican doesnt needed only good thing the shock resistance near the hive but if you have healer thats not really needed
Shout-out to the community Div 2 players who help "noobs" learn the ropes. I got super lucky with a group of individuals who knew the mission inside and out. They helped me learn and get my first completion on paradise lost, after several days, four custom raid builds and many hours of full squads where everyone seemed to not understand what to do to get past the first phase. I was very impressed and thankful for the help. It could be that the "trick" to this incursion is a (skill based team-work) check. Mic, willingness to learn and adapt but most importantly have fun getting a new exotic. Again thank you to all of you who always help where able and put up with those of us who need that boost to get better.
I ran the incursion about 12 times with randoms, gave up because no randoms group I ran with could get past wright. I hit up the official division server on Discord, I got 2 very experienced players and 1 newbie. We carried him through, and we got the Ouroboros to drop after defeating Wright. Me and the newbie needed the gun... At the time, the gun was all I needed to complete my build. He wanted it just to collect it. Newbie was an absolute Chad and let me have the gun. I will never forget you, wouterssteven ❤ youre the best newbie ive ever played with
As a solo player who has been playing with random team mates, my best advise would be to try and get a team on Tuesdays on the reset seems to be the best time to find a good group!
Been winning with randoms since like the 3rd week this was released...had the ouroboros since November 2023. I also do legendary missions with randoms...been beating those and do it regularly. I mentioned how many youtubers only run these things with clan mates and discord. I do it with randoms as it is MUCH more harder to do and takes serious skill. Many can't do it with randoms but to the ones that can, ggs and SOLID SKILLZ
At this point, completing the incursion and legendary missions with randoms is perfectly viable, they might struggle a bit, especially on legendary missions, but if your team isn't good, just look for another
The timing on this is amazing. My friend ran the incursion with randoms yesterday, completed it AND PULLED A OUROBOROS!!! It's very possible, just need a team that won't quit. Great run and great video Rogue 👍
You can stay in the area by the loot room for the entire lovebirds fight, you just need your healer to overcharge as the team is heading up the stairs and have one of the dps players drop a booster hive for 100% hazpro, then everyone stays as far back toward the loot room as they can to avoid the mortars.
As someone who has completed the incursion around 30 times and did it flawless once all with randoms, let me tell you that whoever says that it's impossible is because they never tried it or tried it shortly after launch when no one knew anything. At this point you can complete it with your first group no problem. Also, a few tips: 1. ALWAYS have one healer on your team on the turret stage and boss fights, it isn't neccesary on the truck stage but it's highly recommended. 2. ALWAYS do the lovebirds fight on the starting area unless you trust your team 100%. It's too risky to do it with the average randoms.
I have a video where I completed incursions with no Healer some time ago actually haha. Totally thought it'd have gotten more views but ehhh...TH-cam algorithm 🙃
I went into Paradise Lost with one friend and 2 randoms. Never played the Incursion before and only had a vague idea of what to do in the different sections. It took about an hour, but we did it successfully.
First 3-4 months after the release of the incursion I’d have agreed 100% it was painful how many teammates I got that still hadn’t had a single clue what to do months after the release but after that time period the people seem to have gotten into it better and I haven’t had a single problem running the incursion for months now, even got the ouro a few times :D
Hey man love your videos. You upload super frequently and truly keep the Division community going of people getting back into the game or trying to learn more about it. Whenever I am going back into the game or just TD1 for Survival always swing by ur channel. Please keep it up :)
I mostly run it solo both as a healer and a dps player. A proper communication whether with a mic or a keyboard is alway welcome. The party are willing to guide or walkthrough any mechanics that you might missed out on as well.sometime they are some bad group as well, my tip is just move on and try again. As for build i run the same build but all red with contractor's glive because the devs gave everything in this Incursions too much armor which make it pull ahead in term of dps by slightly. Healer tip are pay attention to how your dps players move and anticipate any mistake that could occur. Best of luck out there guys, you got this
I’ve completed the incursion many times always matchmaking and no audio comms. Got lots of ouroborus which after the first I was given I was able to give them to teammates. I’m glad you have done it too. GGs
Usually a solo player but wanted the ouroboros. So on my 1st run a player disconnected and we had to start again. On 2nd run there were 2 players with experience, me and another without. We got the strategy from the experienced players and ran through the mission. No Ouro for me. But one player dropped it for me. Super experience.
I did Paradise Lost solo with randoms, no comms. More than once. And a couple times there were comms between me and at least one other teammate, but it was still me with randoms.
First of all: good video always. Really enjoy your content and they way you present it. That being said... At this point most people have done the mission enough to have a good idea of what to do. I started doing this mission with the matchmake a couple of weeks after release and it was IMPOSSIBLE! People leaving in valves phase all day long (you can't matchmake there because is a boss encounter) made me reset the mission too many times. I can say that only 3 out of 10 incursions were possible with the matchmaking. At least that was my experience. Good to know that people already learned the basics to get it done... But you can still see that guy in your run hitting the wrong valves.
I got the oro from random matching making with a group that didn’t speak English so it can be done as long as they know what to do and have decent builds
After watching this I decided to give it another try after never getting past the tanker. The team I got just told me to focus on heals and they only used the text chat. They made the entire thing seem so easy and one of them gave me the Oreo when I didn’t get one. Something I’ll always remember
My first incursion run and it was tough I was playing with randoms and we struggled during the tanker fighter took a few attempts the wright fight went actually smooth we struggled nobody seemed to know the water locations and the lover birds fight was a nightmare we got it but I was surprised no one back out we stuck it out and beat the incursion
About 3 days ago, I was in matchmaking, and with a totally random team, and without even talking once, everything went perfectly. In my case I was a healer, and the 3 dps coordinated their damage very well, without doing anything else. There were even 2 of them, which were level below 1000... It's just a matter of playing the game as it should be, without complaining about the difficulty (as happened in the first year of TD2), and then leaving everything simple. There are things that are made to play in a group, but that doesn't mean that it can't be done with random equipment. On the contrary, if people learn and move well, everything can be achieved. Greetings!
Yeah none of my friends play this game and I want to do it, but people either leave as soon as they see I’m SHD 200 or when we wipe at the first encounter
That's a dumb excuse, by the time you're lvl 200, you already got enough experience on the game. I personally tend to judge by the builds, if a build is non-apropriate, i know that person doesn't know anything about the incursion. If you're on Xbox, i can help you
I've been trying to get this completed since it came out and I have not once gotten more than 1 other person that knows how to do it or has a build that will complete the incursion. I need to go out to some discord servers to get a team. I think you got lucky on this run. Keep up the content. I am really enjoying them.
Thank you! Yeah definitely not every matchmade group and run will be a success, but judging off of some of the other comments here, it's definitely possible. Whether you continue trying that, or use Discord, keep at it! 👊
I've only done paradise lost once and I'm a completely solo player, no coms and I mute everyone else most of the time because of my playing constraints. My team got it done and I got the oroboros first run. The purple tank dude took us like 3? tries but ultimately we figured it out and won. It was a lot of fun.
you did great. I sitill don't think I'll ever get to run the incursion. I"m not very good and can't even get through legendary missions with pugs so this one is a no-go. I'll never get the ouroboros just like I'll never get the eagle bearer or the bighorn. Feels kind of bad to love a game as a solo player and know those things are permanently out of reach. All that's really there for me is solo grind to 1000 SHD
I get the hesitation, but I wouldn't say they're permanently out of reach! Especially with the Ouroboros, you never know what kind of team you could matchmake with, and maybe that 1 clear drops it!
never say never, I never do anything higher than hard sometimes challenging even though Im running builds that make heroic look easy like most "meta" builds. Ive done incursions without issues running a build using pestilence with ongoing directive and vile mask(not generally something anyone would recommend), just comes down to working together with your group. youll get it with enough effort
the gate area is pretty reliable but all 4 must synch moving to left or right side otherwise the mortars go everywhere--I call out to the left, to the right etc , also good to not shoot at martinez when inbound to the gate -sets y0u up to kill the drone and use sledge and achilles pulse-possible to kill by the time she leaves to run back on the 1st attempt. First week was murder but randoms got better and there were more people who took to running it constantly for a few weeks so sometimes getting invites or seeing familiar names. A 1 person noob carry is quite possible. But sometimes you just have to call it isn't working. Haven't run it for a while now but managed 12 minutes and 140 clears --all with random groups including my best time. Random grouping is quite fun actually as it is unpredictable in both good and bad ways :) Watching this has me itching to run it again today
Appreciate the info/tips! Been a good minute since I was doing consistent runs. And hell yeah, jump in there! PL is a really well-constructed piece of content
I have a challenge for you Rogue: Complete the incursion without any downs with random matchmaking. You can set whatever parameters for this challenge but if you get down once, you have to restart from the beginning of the incursion. Good luck :)
@@MikeLaRock88150 is definitely possible, this incursion is short and as long as the randoms have more then 40 braincells and a good build it’s possible
@@Zachthe504 I do it all the time, still trying to get the ouro, everyone else playing solo to get it as well have dozens of clears and just know what they're doing.
I playing with randoms only. Absolutely doable, The only question is how long it will take, it can be a flawless run in less than 15 minutes, or it can take an hour with few respawns. The problem is that people are no longer interested in incursion, finding a team is getting harder and harder every week.
Many players in public matchmaking often don't know or don't care about the mechanics of incursion, some ask for "a piggyback ride", which becomes a burden for other players, many just leave, if they feel they can't find "a free ride" to get Oreo or can't finish each stage quickly.
I completed the incursion around 120 times (30 before reset) the majority with randoms no communications as long as you know the mechanics it really isn't that hard. just ensure you have a dps and a healer build then you don´t have to rely on the team. will be running again today with randoms lol
/!\PRO TIP FOR THE 2ND BOSS /!\ If you are the healer, use the the 2 valves in the middle to get the aggro back after doing damage, pool and diner are gonna be the spots to make dmg. Once you get the aggro back, run until your friends clear the room, repeat the path until boss is dead
"Agent down." "Great work agent." 😂 I'm not going to enjoy incursion in a lfg, so that one com stays missing from my main (have it on the second). Got the weapon out of the raid when I still played with others. Not that I use it. Just want to have everything.
first time I did it was no comms with randoms & it went really smooth, didn't get the oroboros for a while & by then it was randos with comms but its possible either way, just takes patience
1 part oxi 2 part full red striker 3 part armor regen hazard protection sledhammer. 4 part considers the sams used armor regen hazard build or just 2 blue core striker. Done
It CAN be difficult to complete, but it's NOT impossible as I've done that several times and we've actually completed it. Granted, in SOME cases, it was frustrating and people left, BUT it is DOABLE
i've ONLY ever played incursion in this way. never had any comms, always done random matchmaking. most are clears since everyone already knows the mechanics of the different maps on my server. had a few flawless clears with the right random groups as well. once you have enough dps you can blitz through the game mode.
Did my 1st ever run just matchmaking for it. No communication. We one shot all the bosses. One player got the smg(Ouroboros) and dropped it for me :) ty agent.
I am sorry but... all my completed Paradise Lost runs have been with regular matchmaking... and I did the incursion every week since its addition... edit: also got the ouro on like my 5th week or something like that, very early
Played the Incursion the day it released and two of the three randoms I ran it with had already completed it. I even ran it again two more times with my friend and another two randoms and we completed it both times. Also ran it with some guys from my clan who I didn’t know and managed to complete it as well. Point is, the Incrusion’s been out for a while and pretty much everyone who’s matchmaking for it has either completed it or knows what to do
My clan is pretty active and we often run the incursion at least once a week. When I run with randoms I immediately run healer because everyone wanna shoot.
so true even when build is stacked with expertise for striker and the others aren't or have off brand builds like tanks and such---because everyone shows up wanting to shoot! Being a healer is a great way for a noob to get in and be successful though until they learn the mechanics but they just dont see it that way
I've done it twice now with random. the first time I ran it, I got the Ouroboros from the chest at the end. Today, I ran it with a clanmate and we had to get a couple of different groups before we got a good group and we got through it without issue. Note the clanmate and I were not on voice either.
Actually done this incursion as solo with randoms, we had no idea how to do the sprinkle stage until we reset for the 4th time, and coordinated via text chat, I was the bait most of the time whilst they tried to time it
im a returning player im SHD 80 (so i dont have all the watches bonus), i did not know any mechanic's, we tried it couple times with friends and always got wiped at 2nd part.. first time with PUG (matchmaking) i ran as healer, and we one shotted everything.. i think the key of success in pug is playing healer :P a lot of player dont wanna heal, they wanna do dmg... but i think this incursion have to have a healer or at least 4 experienced players
I think you are all very talented. But i think those 3 have played this a lot before. Even though they can not talk to each other, just an observation.
Hey roguegold great video. I never done incursion before and i would like to try it. But my shd is like 672 😅 does the difficulty mattter for the Oruos? I mean like if i did it normal just to get the basics? Plud does my shd level matter? Many thanks 😊
Hey there! Thank you! Firstly, the Incursion only has a single difficulty setting of "Normal," so the drop chances for the Ouroboros are equal for anyone playing the content regardless of any other factors. Your SHD levels matters in the sense that the closer you get to 1,000, the more stats you'll have, but if you're asking if 672 is too low- I don't believe so. Your build and knowledge of the fights are far more important!
The thing is you knew what you were doing going into this. Solos, wont even have attempted this, I have never run any of the team based modes. If i tried i wouldnt know what to do
I recognize that, but at the same time that's a very preventable obstacle. Content like Incursions are intended to be quite challenging, and so proper preparation for it is a smart idea. If it's of use, I have a guide that explains each fight and what you need to do, wouldn't be a bad idea to learn it before heading in there! Good luck! 👉 th-cam.com/video/KQpxOyXusGw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=t9KHwijh5F2BKSJf
I have the same bad luck with randoms have yet to succeed any any incursion/ raid activity outside of dark hours 1 time were it seemed like everyone knew how to play and adapted were the team lacked. I wish i had better luck
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj id be down but ive started to play casually at this point so i hop on a few times every other week. Whats you tag ill get you added and hit you up next time im on
@@saverx1775 Of course YT deleted my comment, they might think my gamertag is too ''scary''. I'm gonna put it below this message, if you don't see it, just write yours and i'll add you
Over 300 clears and most of those were random matchmaking. Tons of fails too. My first no healer clear was with a random group. First flawless was with random group. Yes, check builds and try a new group if necessary. It's your time don't waste it.
Hey, I'm returning to the game thanks to ur videos, but I'm getting destroyed by npcs right outside of the White House(im level 40 and did multiple raids before I stopped playing). Do you have a guide for ppl like me?
Hey! I'm not sure why you'd be facing that high of a difficulty spike if you were doing Level 40 Raids, the power levels haven't changed since then. But this video might give you an idea of some current and strong builds to aim for 👉 th-cam.com/video/z3YH2OamSfs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G5wrPsZHmuBtNkkt
Pro Tip: Don't do like these guys and leave right after killing the Lovebirds! Hang around for a little bit and someone might drop you an Ouroboros! I guarantee you, if RG had gotten it to drop, he would've dropped it for one of them. I've seem it happen on multiple occasions!
Random question, how in the world did you disabled coyotes green smoke effect, i have tried doing multiple different masks and they all show the green smoke effect.
I assume you're having this issue while the Coyote's is equipped? There's no dedicated setting to turn on or off the smoke. Have you tried disabling/enabling the appearance of your mask overall to see if that removes the effect?
ive done it plenty if times with randoms. its not a hard thing if people know the basic mechanics. i even got my oro to drop on a run with randoms. jsut luck of the draw i guess for people.
Trying something a bit different this video in terms of both topic and editing style... hope y'all enjoy!
Solid work as always bro 😎👍
The subtitles are nice but i think that if you're going to put them, do it on the entire video
can u plz name the outfit u have equipped on this video the black one at the build showcase and the helmed?
You changed to healer and it's likely that a random will not change their build and there goes your video... Good clear though.
@@Fl4nkcAp Some do and if they don't, just do it yourself
The first time I did this. Was with randoms NO COMS. I literally got Oreo on my first run
Aye good stuff!
Same, did two runs and go ouro on second with awesome randoms teammates who taught me the ropes. I feel so out of touch lol
same but took 10 runs to get oreo,
DFA, a PC clan, runs folks through the incursion multiple times a week. I've done the Incursion about 140 times running people through, and normally run as a healer. We always go straight to the area in front of the loot room and regularly get flawless runs. But it does require communication, which you obviously don't get in a random group. The healer must have Technician, and someone else with the booster hive. As soon as the drone goes down you overcharge and the booster hive is dropped. As soon as the healer's hive gets back above 30 charges the healer drops that. This gives you the Faraday Cage effect which means the team can't be disrupted. We also use The Setup backpack with Perfectly Opportunistic as it increases damage to the Lovebirds. And we use more skill haste and just 2 skill repair attributes - BTSU gloves and the backpack. Healer is responsible for proc'ing sledge and the three DPS players focus on killing Johnson and Martinez at about the same time. That way you avoid the final round of mortars. Very doable, but everyone needs to understand their role and you need a lot of DPS.
You were fortunate in that everyone you ran with had an idea of what to do. That isn't always the case, and it makes the biggest difference with the Lovebirds. If someone hasn't been through the incursion before, they'd be completely lost trying to run with randoms. That's probably why this is called the impossible challenge, because it is impossible for someone who doesn't understand all the mechanics. And it usually takes several runs before you have that down, and that's just focusing on one thing in each area of the Incursion.
Fantastic that you made it through though. I think it's very much a case of "your mileage may vary", and you have to be willing to take a while.
Definitely, experience will make or break the run. But I tried to simulate the "randomness" of it as much as possible, so I was lucky with the picks! Hopefully anyone nervous to jump in can research the fights before trying 👍
@@RogueGold That's key. If you want to run, understand what you're doing before you start. Doesn't matter whether that's an incursion, raid, or anything else. 😁
Yeah that healer setup for deployable shield users who can really know what a gun build boosters decoy thats what you need.
Also you can ,,glicth out’’ the big guy so techican doesnt needed only good thing the shock resistance near the hive but if you have healer thats not really needed
Shout-out to the community Div 2 players who help "noobs" learn the ropes. I got super lucky with a group of individuals who knew the mission inside and out. They helped me learn and get my first completion on paradise lost, after several days, four custom raid builds and many hours of full squads where everyone seemed to not understand what to do to get past the first phase. I was very impressed and thankful for the help. It could be that the "trick" to this incursion is a (skill based team-work) check. Mic, willingness to learn and adapt but most importantly have fun getting a new exotic. Again thank you to all of you who always help where able and put up with those of us who need that boost to get better.
Division has some awesome people out there! 👊
I ran the incursion about 12 times with randoms, gave up because no randoms group I ran with could get past wright. I hit up the official division server on Discord, I got 2 very experienced players and 1 newbie. We carried him through, and we got the Ouroboros to drop after defeating Wright. Me and the newbie needed the gun... At the time, the gun was all I needed to complete my build. He wanted it just to collect it. Newbie was an absolute Chad and let me have the gun. I will never forget you, wouterssteven ❤ youre the best newbie ive ever played with
Love that story!
As a solo player who has been playing with random team mates, my best advise would be to try and get a team on Tuesdays on the reset seems to be the best time to find a good group!
Yeah, that's the best time
Been winning with randoms since like the 3rd week this was released...had the ouroboros since November 2023.
I also do legendary missions with randoms...been beating those and do it regularly. I mentioned how many youtubers only run these things with clan mates and discord. I do it with randoms as it is MUCH more harder to do and takes serious skill. Many can't do it with randoms but to the ones that can, ggs and SOLID SKILLZ
At this point, completing the incursion and legendary missions with randoms is perfectly viable, they might struggle a bit, especially on legendary missions, but if your team isn't good, just look for another
The timing on this is amazing. My friend ran the incursion with randoms yesterday, completed it AND PULLED A OUROBOROS!!! It's very possible, just need a team that won't quit. Great run and great video Rogue 👍
That's awesome!
You can stay in the area by the loot room for the entire lovebirds fight, you just need your healer to overcharge as the team is heading up the stairs and have one of the dps players drop a booster hive for 100% hazpro, then everyone stays as far back toward the loot room as they can to avoid the mortars.
Ahh forgot the Overcharge strat there. Haven't run PL consistently since getting the Oro 😄
As someone who has completed the incursion around 30 times and did it flawless once all with randoms, let me tell you that whoever says that it's impossible is because they never tried it or tried it shortly after launch when no one knew anything. At this point you can complete it with your first group no problem. Also, a few tips: 1. ALWAYS have one healer on your team on the turret stage and boss fights, it isn't neccesary on the truck stage but it's highly recommended. 2. ALWAYS do the lovebirds fight on the starting area unless you trust your team 100%. It's too risky to do it with the average randoms.
I have a video where I completed incursions with no Healer some time ago actually haha. Totally thought it'd have gotten more views but ehhh...TH-cam algorithm 🙃
@@LIF3sAGAM3I have completed incursions without a healer but it's more difficult
Played it several times with randoms, mostly went pretty good. Just use push to talk if it seems like there's need for comms
I went into Paradise Lost with one friend and 2 randoms. Never played the Incursion before and only had a vague idea of what to do in the different sections. It took about an hour, but we did it successfully.
👊 Good stuff!
Personally I like to run the setup backpack for a healer so I can help out my teammates even more
First 3-4 months after the release of the incursion I’d have agreed 100% it was painful how many teammates I got that still hadn’t had a single clue what to do months after the release but after that time period the people seem to have gotten into it better and I haven’t had a single problem running the incursion for months now, even got the ouro a few times :D
Hey man love your videos. You upload super frequently and truly keep the Division community going of people getting back into the game or trying to learn more about it. Whenever I am going back into the game or just TD1 for Survival always swing by ur channel. Please keep it up :)
🙏 Thanks so much for saying that friend, super encouraging!
Brother your the main division content channel I watch, has me hooked every time.
Well done.
🙏 That means more than you know man, thank you!
I mostly run it solo both as a healer and a dps player. A proper communication whether with a mic or a keyboard is alway welcome. The party are willing to guide or walkthrough any mechanics that you might missed out on as well.sometime they are some bad group as well, my tip is just move on and try again. As for build i run the same build but all red with contractor's glive because the devs gave everything in this Incursions too much armor which make it pull ahead in term of dps by slightly. Healer tip are pay attention to how your dps players move and anticipate any mistake that could occur. Best of luck out there guys, you got this
I’ve completed the incursion many times always matchmaking and no audio comms. Got lots of ouroborus which after the first I was given I was able to give them to teammates. I’m glad you have done it too. GGs
Usually a solo player but wanted the ouroboros. So on my 1st run a player disconnected and we had to start again. On 2nd run there were 2 players with experience, me and another without. We got the strategy from the experienced players and ran through the mission. No Ouro for me. But one player dropped it for me. Super experience.
👊 Awesome!
This is the only way I have been running this, wasn't aware it was a big deal no comms with randoms. Granted have had the odd noob
Gameplay is boss. Build and mission advice is spot on. But the music...Ola Strandh is the master - hands-down and undeniably.
Haha yes he is!
I did Paradise Lost solo with randoms, no comms. More than once. And a couple times there were comms between me and at least one other teammate, but it was still me with randoms.
First of all: good video always. Really enjoy your content and they way you present it.
That being said... At this point most people have done the mission enough to have a good idea of what to do. I started doing this mission with the matchmake a couple of weeks after release and it was IMPOSSIBLE! People leaving in valves phase all day long (you can't matchmake there because is a boss encounter) made me reset the mission too many times. I can say that only 3 out of 10 incursions were possible with the matchmaking. At least that was my experience. Good to know that people already learned the basics to get it done... But you can still see that guy in your run hitting the wrong valves.
🙏 Thank you for the kind words!
that "gate strat" at the end is actually really good but you need a healer, my rando team 1 shot the love birds with that strat
The day I got an Ouroboros was the last time I ran that mission. Zero plans on ever doing it again.
I got the oro from random matching making with a group that didn’t speak English so it can be done as long as they know what to do and have decent builds
After watching this I decided to give it another try after never getting past the tanker. The team I got just told me to focus on heals and they only used the text chat. They made the entire thing seem so easy and one of them gave me the Oreo when I didn’t get one. Something I’ll always remember
This is the best comment! So happy to hear that- congrats!
My first incursion run and it was tough I was playing with randoms and we struggled during the tanker fighter took a few attempts the wright fight went actually smooth we struggled nobody seemed to know the water locations and the lover birds fight was a nightmare we got it but I was surprised no one back out we stuck it out and beat the incursion
About 3 days ago, I was in matchmaking, and with a totally random team, and without even talking once, everything went perfectly. In my case I was a healer, and the 3 dps coordinated their damage very well, without doing anything else. There were even 2 of them, which were level below 1000... It's just a matter of playing the game as it should be, without complaining about the difficulty (as happened in the first year of TD2), and then leaving everything simple. There are things that are made to play in a group, but that doesn't mean that it can't be done with random equipment. On the contrary, if people learn and move well, everything can be achieved. Greetings!
Yeah none of my friends play this game and I want to do it, but people either leave as soon as they see I’m SHD 200 or when we wipe at the first encounter
Are you on pc? I'm currently helping my guys who are new go up the 1000 shade level grind. We're currently on Hong Kong time, fyi.
That's a dumb excuse, by the time you're lvl 200, you already got enough experience on the game. I personally tend to judge by the builds, if a build is non-apropriate, i know that person doesn't know anything about the incursion. If you're on Xbox, i can help you
I've been trying to get this completed since it came out and I have not once gotten more than 1 other person that knows how to do it or has a build that will complete the incursion. I need to go out to some discord servers to get a team. I think you got lucky on this run. Keep up the content. I am really enjoying them.
Thank you! Yeah definitely not every matchmade group and run will be a success, but judging off of some of the other comments here, it's definitely possible. Whether you continue trying that, or use Discord, keep at it! 👊
Bro videos like this are nice man, thanks for the content. Maybe I’ll give the incursion a shot after all.
🙏 Thank you so much! And it's awesome to hear you were encouraged- let me know how it goes if you do!
I've only done paradise lost once and I'm a completely solo player, no coms and I mute everyone else most of the time because of my playing constraints. My team got it done and I got the oroboros first run. The purple tank dude took us like 3? tries but ultimately we figured it out and won. It was a lot of fun.
Nice! Yeah overcoming the challenge on content like this is always incredibly satisfying 👊
The only thing impossible as solo in this game is not only getting a raid group but also having all 7 teammates know what they're doing 😭
you did great. I sitill don't think I'll ever get to run the incursion. I"m not very good and can't even get through legendary missions with pugs so this one is a no-go. I'll never get the ouroboros just like I'll never get the eagle bearer or the bighorn. Feels kind of bad to love a game as a solo player and know those things are permanently out of reach. All that's really there for me is solo grind to 1000 SHD
I get the hesitation, but I wouldn't say they're permanently out of reach! Especially with the Ouroboros, you never know what kind of team you could matchmake with, and maybe that 1 clear drops it!
never say never, I never do anything higher than hard sometimes challenging even though Im running builds that make heroic look easy like most "meta" builds. Ive done incursions without issues running a build using pestilence with ongoing directive and vile mask(not generally something anyone would recommend), just comes down to working together with your group. youll get it with enough effort
the gate area is pretty reliable but all 4 must synch moving to left or right side otherwise the mortars go everywhere--I call out to the left, to the right etc , also good to not shoot at martinez when inbound to the gate -sets y0u up to kill the drone and use sledge and achilles pulse-possible to kill by the time she leaves to run back on the 1st attempt. First week was murder but randoms got better and there were more people who took to running it constantly for a few weeks so sometimes getting invites or seeing familiar names. A 1 person noob carry is quite possible. But sometimes you just have to call it isn't working. Haven't run it for a while now but managed 12 minutes and 140 clears --all with random groups including my best time. Random grouping is quite fun actually as it is unpredictable in both good and bad ways :) Watching this has me itching to run it again today
Appreciate the info/tips! Been a good minute since I was doing consistent runs. And hell yeah, jump in there! PL is a really well-constructed piece of content
That was very cool. Gives me hope. I am a solo player and watching this was great.
👊 Good luck!
I have a challenge for you Rogue: Complete the incursion without any downs with random matchmaking. You can set whatever parameters for this challenge but if you get down once, you have to restart from the beginning of the incursion. Good luck :)
Oh boy 😅 if I can ever find that amount of time to block out, we'll see!
@@RogueGold haha well good luck. :D
@@RogueGoldI was able to do flawless with semi-randoms aka randoms i ended up stucking with
All I got from this video is your character is OP and your smart. If you weren’t on the team they would have failed 😂
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Yea, that dude just has bad luck getting matched with horrible players. I'm strictly solo, and have 150+ clears all with randoms.
Dang! Good stuff!
I call BS lol
@@MikeLaRock88150 is definitely possible, this incursion is short and as long as the randoms have more then 40 braincells and a good build it’s possible
True i got 700 plus clears and most are with randoms
@@Zachthe504 I do it all the time, still trying to get the ouro, everyone else playing solo to get it as well have dozens of clears and just know what they're doing.
I playing with randoms only. Absolutely doable, The only question is how long it will take, it can be a flawless run in less than 15 minutes, or it can take an hour with few respawns.
The problem is that people are no longer interested in incursion, finding a team is getting harder and harder every week.
True but there's always a dedicated community. Try to do it on Tuesdays, that's when there's more people
I've actually had decent success with randos. We even had one guy with no mic.
I've had teams with no mics and no text and we did it no issue
The hard part is trying to find anyone that’s on t the same time I am so I can play with others.
Many players in public matchmaking often don't know or don't care about the mechanics of incursion, some ask for "a piggyback ride", which becomes a burden for other players, many just leave, if they feel they can't find "a free ride" to get Oreo or can't finish each stage quickly.
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I completed the incursion around 120 times (30 before reset) the majority with randoms no communications as long as you know the mechanics it really isn't that hard. just ensure you have a dps and a healer build then you don´t have to rely on the team. will be running again today with randoms lol
After I got that smg from one of the bosses I haven’t ran that incursion since 😭😭
/!\PRO TIP FOR THE 2ND BOSS /!\
If you are the healer, use the the 2 valves in the middle to get the aggro back after doing damage, pool and diner are gonna be the spots to make dmg. Once you get the aggro back, run until your friends clear the room, repeat the path until boss is dead
"Agent down." "Great work agent." 😂 I'm not going to enjoy incursion in a lfg, so that one com stays missing from my main (have it on the second). Got the weapon out of the raid when I still played with others. Not that I use it. Just want to have everything.
All random matchmaking is a crap shoot, but some of the best groups I've ever played with were random matchmaking.
first time I did it was no comms with randoms & it went really smooth, didn't get the oroboros for a while & by then it was randos with comms but its possible either way, just takes patience
1 part oxi
2 part full red striker
3 part armor regen hazard protection sledhammer.
4 part considers the sams used armor regen hazard build or just 2 blue core striker.
Done
Ohh sorry that is for solo duhh😂
Im my opinion its easier to kill lovebirds from the tent with randoms but it does take a bit longer
Just recommend to replaced the backpack for perfect opportunistic which is the set up all yellow (repair & haste) it will help a lot to your team,
I love your videos man. Keep up the great work.
👊 Thank you so much!
It CAN be difficult to complete, but it's NOT impossible as I've done that several times and we've actually completed it. Granted, in SOME cases, it was frustrating and people left, BUT it is DOABLE
i've ONLY ever played incursion in this way. never had any comms, always done random matchmaking. most are clears since everyone already knows the mechanics of the different maps on my server. had a few flawless clears with the right random groups as well. once you have enough dps you can blitz through the game mode.
Flawless is no joke, good stuff!
Did my 1st ever run just matchmaking for it. No communication. We one shot all the bosses. One player got the smg(Ouroboros) and dropped it for me :) ty agent.
Love it! Good stuff! 👊
I got my four Ouroboros playing with random players and with minimum comms via game chat.
I am sorry but... all my completed Paradise Lost runs have been with regular matchmaking... and I did the incursion every week since its addition...
edit: also got the ouro on like my 5th week or something like that, very early
Good stuff! Just wanted to provide documented proof to those who are doubting its feasibility :)
I actually know a way how to solo the incursion you can find other videos on TH-cam to it'd actually quite good
Played the Incursion the day it released and two of the three randoms I ran it with had already completed it. I even ran it again two more times with my friend and another two randoms and we completed it both times. Also ran it with some guys from my clan who I didn’t know and managed to complete it as well. Point is, the Incrusion’s been out for a while and pretty much everyone who’s matchmaking for it has either completed it or knows what to do
I wish i had your luck, every team i found at launch was garbage
@IzWolfPack 👍👍
My clan is pretty active and we often run the incursion at least once a week. When I run with randoms I immediately run healer because everyone wanna shoot.
so true even when build is stacked with expertise for striker and the others aren't or have off brand builds like tanks and such---because everyone shows up wanting to shoot! Being a healer is a great way for a noob to get in and be successful though until they learn the mechanics but they just dont see it that way
It's not that hard to find random healers, although never expect to find one since they're still a minority
I've done it twice now with random. the first time I ran it, I got the Ouroboros from the chest at the end. Today, I ran it with a clanmate and we had to get a couple of different groups before we got a good group and we got through it without issue. Note the clanmate and I were not on voice either.
Today we stayed at the gate and used the top as cover. it was pretty easy.
Actually done this incursion as solo with randoms, we had no idea how to do the sprinkle stage until we reset for the 4th time, and coordinated via text chat, I was the bait most of the time whilst they tried to time it
Love the determination! 👊
Wonderful video
Thank you!
This and the raid is the only thing i have not completed its been a struggle
Faced you in Conflict the other day. If you didn't notice you were my first target 🤣 It was an honor, even with the team i was on losing lol.
Can't remember if it was Friday or yesterday.
@xXp0SeDx Haha GG's!
Thanks, this is great.
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I always finished the incursion without Voice intraction.
lol the Gold God strikes again!!! 😂😂
Done it with no comms with randoms it's doable but also depending on the randoms
Wow they didn't leave 1st wipe that blows my mind
im a returning player im SHD 80 (so i dont have all the watches bonus), i did not know any mechanic's, we tried it couple times with friends and always got wiped at 2nd part.. first time with PUG (matchmaking) i ran as healer, and we one shotted everything.. i think the key of success in pug is playing healer :P
a lot of player dont wanna heal, they wanna do dmg... but i think this incursion have to have a healer or at least 4 experienced players
The healer role is definitely pivotal, no doubt!
I think you are all very talented. But i think those 3 have played this a lot before. Even though they can not talk to each other, just an observation.
Did this for the first time with randoms the other day and my build was not great for it but still managed to do it
Awesome!
I've not played since the first season. What are the good exoctics to get?
@Richard-vt1jw St Elmos Engine, Scorpio, Memento, NinjaBike backpack are some great picks 👍
I concur it is very difficult with match making. I’ve tried playing it 5 time and only able to complete it once. No oro for me.
Took me roughly 35 runs to get the Oro. Much trial and error.
Took 45 completed runs for me to get the ouroboros. I have a buddy who got it on his first try. You just never know!
Nowdays it's very easy unless you are very unlucky. If you're on Xbox, we can run it together
Did random runs a few times,,, absolutely can be done
I did it with a random crew and it took a little time but we got through it
Nice!
Hey roguegold great video. I never done incursion before and i would like to try it. But my shd is like 672 😅 does the difficulty mattter for the Oruos? I mean like if i did it normal just to get the basics? Plud does my shd level matter? Many thanks 😊
Hey there! Thank you! Firstly, the Incursion only has a single difficulty setting of "Normal," so the drop chances for the Ouroboros are equal for anyone playing the content regardless of any other factors. Your SHD levels matters in the sense that the closer you get to 1,000, the more stats you'll have, but if you're asking if 672 is too low- I don't believe so. Your build and knowledge of the fights are far more important!
There is a video of someone doing this solo
The thing is you knew what you were doing going into this. Solos, wont even have attempted this, I have never run any of the team based modes. If i tried i wouldnt know what to do
I recognize that, but at the same time that's a very preventable obstacle. Content like Incursions are intended to be quite challenging, and so proper preparation for it is a smart idea. If it's of use, I have a guide that explains each fight and what you need to do, wouldn't be a bad idea to learn it before heading in there! Good luck! 👉 th-cam.com/video/KQpxOyXusGw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=t9KHwijh5F2BKSJf
I have the same bad luck with randoms have yet to succeed any any incursion/ raid activity outside of dark hours 1 time were it seemed like everyone knew how to play and adapted were the team lacked. I wish i had better luck
If you're on Xbox, we can try the incursion together, i guess the raids as well but don't expect me to do well on those
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj id be down but ive started to play casually at this point so i hop on a few times every other week. Whats you tag ill get you added and hit you up next time im on
@@saverx1775 Of course YT deleted my comment, they might think my gamertag is too ''scary''. I'm gonna put it below this message, if you don't see it, just write yours and i'll add you
@@saverx1775Destruccion#2264
Tired it yesterday got destroyed straight away got st emos striker still died
Over 300 clears and most of those were random matchmaking. Tons of fails too. My first no healer clear was with a random group. First flawless was with random group. Yes, check builds and try a new group if necessary. It's your time don't waste it.
Good stuff, especially without comms.
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Need healer on the steps part
Gotta say, if I get matched with RogueGold as a "rando", I'm headed into Incursion with luck on my side.
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Hey, I'm returning to the game thanks to ur videos, but I'm getting destroyed by npcs right outside of the White House(im level 40 and did multiple raids before I stopped playing). Do you have a guide for ppl like me?
Hey! I'm not sure why you'd be facing that high of a difficulty spike if you were doing Level 40 Raids, the power levels haven't changed since then. But this video might give you an idea of some current and strong builds to aim for 👉 th-cam.com/video/z3YH2OamSfs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G5wrPsZHmuBtNkkt
Pro Tip: Don't do like these guys and leave right after killing the Lovebirds! Hang around for a little bit and someone might drop you an Ouroboros! I guarantee you, if RG had gotten it to drop, he would've dropped it for one of them. I've seem it happen on multiple occasions!
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I Managed to do it with randoms After 7,5 Hours in the end i got the ouroboros
That's awesome 👏 the determination paid off!
What was the outfit during the mishion? Looks great actually!
It's the Recruiter uniform (no cloak version), and the mask received for Rank 100 on the Season 11 premium track
@@RogueGold Looks fantastic
Random question, how in the world did you disabled coyotes green smoke effect, i have tried doing multiple different masks and they all show the green smoke effect.
I assume you're having this issue while the Coyote's is equipped? There's no dedicated setting to turn on or off the smoke. Have you tried disabling/enabling the appearance of your mask overall to see if that removes the effect?
@@RogueGold I ended up just sticking the mask to my bag. Still looks goofy but at least my mask isn’t smoking. Thanks!
I don’t have level 40 cuz I don’t have the dlc 😢 I can’t do Jack for shit damage
ive done it plenty if times with randoms. its not a hard thing if people know the basic mechanics. i even got my oro to drop on a run with randoms. jsut luck of the draw i guess for people.
Nice! Yeah experience will certainly vary with the group found.
I'm a solo player and ran this 4 times. 3rd try I got the ouroborus.
Nice!!
Noice!
It’s not possible to do this completely solo?
It's not without some incredible levels of preparation to bypass intended mechanics- for all intents and purposes it's not possible
What kind of backpack with a pipe do you have?
There's a few different skins I use throughout the video, do you have a timestamp for which one you're referring to?
Ive niticed kateky that its people are getting good at the i cursion. Matchmaking is an option now. Good times
I got over 30 comps... All randoms but I get what he is saying I have almost 200 give ups with randoms
All luck of the draw with the group you're given 👍