Very nice comparison video. No rubbish, just facts. I’ve had both Subaru and Audi AWD systems and I’d buy either again in a heartbeat. For comfort / quality I’d go German, but for off-road I’d trust either! Subaru are very, very popular here in New Zealand.
Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this I’m 6’3” and the the cabin is fine even in an A4 or Golf. I find the Audi interior a much nicer place to be than the Subaru, a little clinical perhaps but really well put together.
@@laszlokerekes3202 Who claims there is no difference? When it comes to costs - I'm sure Ultra ain't cheaper, it includes two complicated clutch units. Clutch slippage - that's how the torque is transferred.
@@laszlokerekes3202 Haldex is actually electro-hydraulic and it can hold up to 3500 Nm so with cooling system it is really strong clutch. Ultra is weaker but even though it is more than enough for day to day driving.
Former Audi A4 owner, currently on my 6th Subaru. Live them both. I currently have a 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder Outback. The 6 banger is a much better car than the 4.. Better suspension, better everything. The test would have performed with a 6 cylinder Subie. That said, I trust both and love both.
I've had both the Subaru Legacy and Audi A6 quattro. Been stuck once in the Audi in the snow but never got stuck in the Subaru. Both good but I would rate the Subaru as slightly better.
@@sdb87149 Both driving on Summer tyres. I still have a quattro Audi which gets fitted with Winter tyres in the snow and performs very well. Still think after years of driving Audis that the Subaru performed slightly better on snow and ice.
Have owned both. 1 Audi Quattro, 8 Subaru in 41 years. Audi mechanic told me NOT to own it after the warranty. Nothing but problems from Day 2 of ownership. Subaru: Never replaced even exhaust, shocks, etc in 41 years.
I've had my 2007 A4 Quattro Avant for about 7 years now and repairs have not been outrageous, no more than any other car I've owned. Parts are easy to find and not as expensive as the trolls suggest other than the windshield wipers with their propriety connector.
@@jasonk9779 I didn't realize that audi used some bs connectors for their wiper blades when I brought some replacements. It was bs. After several minutes I figured out how to take apart my wiper blades and reused the connector. Now I can just buy any cheap blades and use them on my audi.
I saw one in snow recently. Quattro really struggles on low grip. It wants atleast 2 gripping wheels otherwise you are going to get stuck. Which wierdly wasn’t an issue for our xdrive 320d but then again we did have a very good driver and a heavily loaded car.
@@louvierejacques try driving ice at speed, but cool story. a tire's price doesnt tell how good it is. i never said its useless. i said there are some situations where it gets deafeated. There is a reason audi copied xdrive with their quattro ultra(Or whatever the heck is called). im not hating, i have better things to do
@@petrosrz8990 Audi copied xdrive with their quattro ultra? These systems are completely different. In fact, after tests Audi discarded the system used later on by Bmw.
Of all the AWD cars out there, I’d rate Subaru and Audi the best two. I’ve had 4 Audis, 3 Subarus. Never was able to get either stuck. And I often tried! But I give the nod to Subaru based on bang for the buck. Cheaper to buy and repair, and better MPG. But both great cars.
I work for Audi, I've owned both, Audi may have a slight traction advantage but ground clearance to an outback is lower so that will get you. The Audi is sexy and solid but costs more to own, the subi is cheaper and less problematic. Pick your poison. You will pay for luxury, it's a simple matter of what's slightly more important to you
I was a bit surprised by that last test. In all other tests the Subaru handled great but with only one rear wheel on the ground it really struggled. They could easily tune the software differently to solve this I guess.
Zaraz zima, poproszę o test pod górę na śliskim! W miarę podobnymi oponami. Super test - SUBARU górą, bez forsowania silnika. Tylko ta ostatnia próba, ale TCS OFF załatwiło sprawę
I pass lots of brands of shit on the highway....I drive 112 miles one way to work and no prob. Drag race???? Don't give no fucks....it's not meant to do that. Want the best mpg and the best AWD??? Then Subaru is the answer....if you want fast and shit AWD......buy anything else
The last test for subaru is how you do it..x mode on and traction control off!! what i use in the snow!!its literally tank mode for the outback!love ity!!
@@MiKe-fe6bd (I'm from Italy, however, in North America Subaru is appreciated especially where snow falls, Canada included. In Indiana state there's a big factory where Usa Subaru are built. Someone says that Us Subaru are less...consistent than Japanese, but, I cannot say because my Legacy came from Japan. Respect for Russia and Russians🙋
Try SH-AWD. And there are others. But yes, these two are very good. Audi's older system was certainly better for this type of driving tho. That's why you see the original Quattro in rally and not many modern style Audi AWD systems.
As a Subaru cheerleader, I'm surprised at this vid. Never knew Quattro was THIS good, and the fact that u have to hit switches on the last test to get the Subbie to succeed
I have a Subaru Outback 2011 S-AWD as a daily driver in Sweden often driving in snow, and when the grip gets really bad it's always ESP-OFF that helps me out.
Looks to me like the Subie transfers power to other wheels quicker and at lower speeds? The Audi’s wheels were having to spin faster until the power was then transferred? That’s what it looked like to me
I own both, on ‘05 Outback XT and an ‘18 Allroad as well as a ‘10 A3 TDI. Both are awesome in the slippery weather. Can not compare the fit, finish and tech of Audi. My (yes, dated ‘05 Outback XT) is no slouch but at best 25- 29 MPG easy driving. My Allroad driven same way 35-40 MPG. No exaggeration on MPG. Real world calculation. Compared to my ‘10 AUDI TDI at 45 MPG I couldn’t be happier. Both great vehicles. Both reliable (using my ‘10 TDI as comparison). Equipped with proper winter tires, either will go through just about anything. An ‘18 Subie is cheaper, but truthfully different targeted audiences. Audi is much more luxurious and tech equipped. My opinion, Subie an Audi produce best AWD.
Both performed very similar in my opinion. It might seem that the driver was hitting harder on the Audi. But that's just due to the great low-end torque that makes for a fun sportier ride compared to that subaru cvt engine(better gas mileage). So torquey It kicks the rollers away after going over them. That eats your tires up quicker though. Thing is if you're on the market for a great reliable AWD vehicle and don't want to break the bank the Subaru is a much smarter buy. If you have money to burn then even a fully decked out Subaru might still be the smarter buy. I would have love to see you conduct the entire test in "REVERSE" gear as well.
Both looked close. For the prices Subaru charges these days ALL of their cars need another 50 horsepower. You also should have the option of a turbo engine or more powerful base 4 cylinder with any trim level. The turbo Outback, Forested and Legacy all failed because nobody wants to spend 40k plus just for a more responsive engine. You don't need every feature in existence just to get better passing power. Also drop the CVT transmission already, I shouldn't have to wait 3 seconds from the time I floor the car to the time it decides to accelerate while rolling in traffic. My old 07 outback with the 4 speed auto has better response for crying out loud 😂
хороший тест, сам владею таким субару и скажу что внешне он мне больше нравится чем ауди, в плюс можно записать что за цену нафаршерованной ауди можно купить таких два субару ))
Luxury brands depreciate more than the Japanese companies. Luxury brands hold about only 30%. Whereas Subaru's in general hold over 60%. Both Quattro and the AWD system in Subaru's are excellent. Audi is a luxury brand and are a beautiful car. It will obviously cost you more in maintenance and repair. Subaru's lineup less and are known for very good reliability. Were comparing apples to oranges here. Audi's have really become a much much better manufacturers of vehicles than the past. Not so for Mercedes or BMW. Arguably Audi's are one of the best luxury brands out there next to Lexus which is always at the top spot for more than a decade. Acuras SH-AWD system has been proven an excellent AWD system. Consumers Reports named Subaru the best company for 2019. Mainly because of the new global platform Forester, Crosstrek and new Ascent 7 seater 260HP turbo that has a 5,000lb. towing capacity with a CVT transmission. Which is one of the best CVT transmissions out there next to Honda's. The new Lexus subcompact class is also using a CVT.
Владею Audi Q5 2014 2.0tfsi ZF8 & Subaru Outback 2019 FB25, cvt-7. Могу сказать как пользователь, что по душе больше Ауди, так как комфорт в Ауди более качественно продуман. Subaru не плохой авто, но в долгой дороге, и по мелочам очень расстраивает... По качеству подонки деталей на уровне моего трака RAM1500 slt
I wonder if the tires are catching the sides of the rollers. It seems the vehicles (especially the Audi) pull out abruptly from the three roller test when the driver applies aggressive power. That may move the vehicle left and right a bit to catch the stationary side of rollers. The driver should have kept the throttle at a steady level. Maybe.
If if tires catch the frame - it doesn't help: th-cam.com/video/NVkyZJlox4Y/w-d-xo.html When it comes to throttle - here is full video about it: th-cam.com/video/dFs0OOUtPeE/w-d-xo.html
All I noticed is that in the last test, Subaru somehow applies braking to certain wheels, when Audi just spins them without stopping. Wouldnt say that spinning the wheels endlessly will help in mud/snow/sand. You'd just end up deeper in the terrain.
The newest Subaru have xmode 1.0 and 2.0 for that partical situation, the 2.0 version have a pre set for snow & mud and Deep snow & deep mud which allow the wheels to spin to have enough speed to plow thru deep snow without the computer slowing you down. For deep snow, you can turn off the traction control as well.
My 2015 Subaru diesel premium auto is best ,smooth cvt,can’t feel gear changing when driving,good fuel consumption side lookings are awesome,large boot
Good to know, if ever I find myself driving on rollers on a flat parking lot. 😉 My STi has front and rear limited slip diffs, along with a driver controlled center diff - so I pretty much got it covered from a hardware perspective. Most important is the right tires for maximum traction for the conditions. (snow, dirt & mud, dry & hot, or cold, wet, heavy loam, etc)
Interesting, thanks for this test, and for getting right to it instead of dicking around for 5 minutes first lol. The Subaru was closer to the Audi than I expected. I have an Outback. If money were no object (and if I had a garage to park it in) I'd take the Audi because they're so nice! But since I have to park outside, I'm very happy with my Outback.
It would be difficult to say Subaru didn’t win, even though I wanted the Quattro to. I think the Audis really need better front and rear differentials, but everything would benefit from that in this test
You can clearly see that you need to floor the Audi and with the Subaru you can see the brake kicks in at the wheel that have wheel spin, except the last one the Subaru struggles.
I wonder why they cant fix the small issues that are left.. just ad the parametres in the computer and it should be fine. I think the Subaru was superior in this test, and this has been proven over and over again. But nothing beats a true diff lock on all 4.. they should just add that option to the system and both cars will perform lot better on hard offroad.. - but none of these cars are ment to do hard offroad, so it is not needed..
My car: 1998 Jeep Cherokee, Detroit Truetracs in both diffs, lockable center. No electronics. Does all of this. My wife's car: Honda Crosstour V6 AWD. Does fine. I'll give up the ability to go over the rollers for 30 mpg.
I have had an Audi A3 and Audi A4, both Quatto. I drove a Suburu Crossfit and got smoked by an old Oldsmobile. The CVT transmission felt like a rubber band about to snap. I have seen on a TH-cam channel where the people bring an extra CVT belt when off reading just in case it snaps. I have so much fun driving my Audi in the snow. Sure Suburu Is great also but the CVT is horrible. Trying to pass is slow. Hit the gas on my Audi and gone.
Can you guys include a cornering test? This test gives me great info on how an awd system would perform if it were stuck in snow. But that only accounts to maybe 1-2 instances a year depending on snow fall. I think adding a "cornering test" would be a better indicator of how an awd system performs. Plus, it would give us a more accurate real world result, being that we have to go around corners everytime we get behind the wheel.
@@viccao8431 the problem is that every few months something will break in the Audi. Most likely engine parts. The Subi will run and run and run... Build quality is one thing, reliability a whole different story
Great video. In the last test /3 wheels on rollers/ it seems like audi applies brakes while Subaru isn't clear. Anyway in proper ice conditions, 3 wheels off means no movement, and would require locking 3 differentials like Merc G wagon.
Thanks. Subaru also applies brakes but it requires appriopriate setup. So requires Audi. Both cars would handle situation with only one wheel with grip.
Interesting comparison on (2) very similar systems. After everything is said & done, based on what I'm seeing here, the Outback wins this contest quite handily. Another point to consider is the vehicles cost factor. The Audi is one luxurious beauty & it costs a pretty penny too and is a well built German car. The thing about the Japanese auto manufacturers is they own the patent on copying other automakers technology & then making it better! Since I own a 2017 Subaru Outback Limited, 2.5i ( $32,385.00 ) out the door, my opinion is no doubt biased. I can say this with authority however concerning the Subie, in the real world of driving, i.e., ( n. central VT ) in the winter. The factory Bridgestone tires, all season M&S Duellers tyres are as useless as " tits on a boar hog ". The car cannot get out of it's own way on a flat surface in 1" of snow, unless it is ultra cold snow with zero moisture. HOWEVER, I installed a set of " winter tires " just (2) days ago & that was the game changer after 19 mos. of ownership with more " white knuckle " moments I ever care to remember on those "JUNK " Bridgestones. I went with the best, i.e., the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 SUV directional winter tyres in 225/60R18. They are surprisingly quiet on the pavement and do they ever dig in the snow! I live in steep mtn. country with a steeper still 350 ft. long d/way. After a few days of testing these tires, the vehicle's traction control light has not come on once as the vehicle now for the 1st time feels controllable on the snowy corners & various grades. The moral of the story here is TIRES... The traction ability of any system, be it 4X4, AWD, 4x2, limited slips in multiple combinations are only as good as the tires will allow... Great presentation here imho & thank you... :-)
yes, the Bridgestone Duelers are absolute shiite and Subaru should be ashamed to put them on their vehicles. I switched to a set of Yokohama Geolanders after 22k. Have yet to truly test them out, but they heads above the mushy sidewall garbage Duelers. Still would like to put some decent Rallitek springs on, as the stock springs are sub-par as well.
Here’s all you need to know: The Audi A4 allroad is a joy to drive. Do all the spinning wheel tests you want- the Subaru Outback drives like a minivan and will make you sad
@@ЮрийБайкулов-й3е если объективно смотреть то так или иначе субару победитель. И откуда вам знать, что субару включал, вы же в салоне не сидели во время тестов
Такое порно снимают владельцы субару)))))) зачем на ауди выключать (esp) система стабилизации и антибукс??? При включеном esp никогда кваттро не будет буксовать! Кватро передает максимальный крутящий момент на колесо, которое имеет наибольшее сцепление с дорожным покрытием! Владел 4мя автомобилями ауди, проверено на собственном опыте)
@@bwoodod здравствуйте. В таком случае как объясните это видео?? Акура со своим полным приводом SH-AWD, который как раз и славится тем, что может выдавать максимальный крутящий момент на колесо, прошла испытания, а ауди нет.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Im new to this. So what matters is the Front-Rear power distribution 50-50 / 70-30, and the differential itself (open, LSD, torsen)? What else plays a role?
@@walter1824 In this case both cars have clutch-packs instead of center differentials. Power is shifted from front to back and it is variable, it depends how much the clutch pack is compressed. Clutch open = FWD. Clutch fully compressed = 50/50 (axles locked together).
Joe K It was ON only during the last test, you have a mark on the screen... There are tests on my channel of Outback diesel with x-mode on and off. check it out!
So after watching numerous videos showing Subies with underpowered engines trying to climb hills, I jumped at the chance for a 3.6R when I was shopping. I can't find any videos of the 3.6R on your list though. Have you had the chance to capture one yet? After driving very capable 4X4 trucks off road, the Outback 3.6R has been an eye opening experience in what I was missing. Thoughts on the 3.6R?
Сравнили новый аутбэк со старым а4)) с новым а6 надо сравнивать) и вес одинаковый будет и доработки на приводах новые у обоих...а4 с легаси надо тестить
No wasted time, just straight to the tests. Nice work👍🏼
just those tests hardly appear in real life. and real life test need ground clearance as well.
scal man real life tests in these cars would just be how well they handle potholes, and this test.
Only subaru and Audi make the real AWD, others just fakes
@@lucisleesion8824 Are you aware of the fact that both cars in this test have "fake awd"?
@@MrScalman Tests on rollers vs real world situations: th-cam.com/video/926i0zqteXE/w-d-xo.html
Very nice comparison video. No rubbish, just facts. I’ve had both Subaru and Audi AWD systems and I’d buy either again in a heartbeat. For comfort / quality I’d go German, but for off-road I’d trust either! Subaru are very, very popular here in New Zealand.
Graham Brown lol German is quality????? I don't think so, seems pretty unreliable to me
Germany has the highest average quality across vehicles out of every motor vehicle producing country
Mark Butov I had an Outback Limited from 2010-2014. What a piece of absolute junk. The happiest day of my life was when I ditched it for an A4.
Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this I’m 6’3” and the the cabin is fine even in an A4 or Golf. I find the Audi interior a much nicer place to be than the Subaru, a little clinical perhaps but really well put together.
German quality? Are you gay?
Best comparison test I've ever seen. No explanation required.
Pretty close! Thanks for the comparison! Subaru looks faster than Audi in reactions but anyway they both so close in the last part (3 rollers).
That's the new quattro Ultra system available on some vehicles to save fuel. The other quattro systems are still superior.
@@mediocreman2 Ultra isn't any worse here than other quattro systems.
@@laszlokerekes3202 Who claims there is no difference? When it comes to costs - I'm sure Ultra ain't cheaper, it includes two complicated clutch units. Clutch slippage - that's how the torque is transferred.
@@laszlokerekes3202 Quattro Ultra has nothing to do with haldex, these are completely different systems.
@@laszlokerekes3202 Haldex is actually electro-hydraulic and it can hold up to 3500 Nm so with cooling system it is really strong clutch. Ultra is weaker but even though it is more than enough for day to day driving.
The brake dust is strong in this one.
Love the videos.
Former Audi A4 owner, currently on my 6th Subaru. Live them both. I currently have a 6 cylinder and 4 cylinder Outback. The 6 banger is a much better car than the 4.. Better suspension, better everything. The test would have performed with a 6 cylinder Subie. That said, I trust both and love both.
2,5-4 celinddra)
I've had both the Subaru Legacy and Audi A6 quattro. Been stuck once in the Audi in the snow but never got stuck in the Subaru. Both good but I would rate the Subaru as slightly better.
Same tires in both?
@@sdb87149 Both driving on Summer tyres. I still have a quattro Audi which gets fitted with Winter tyres in the snow and performs very well. Still think after years of driving Audis that the Subaru performed slightly better on snow and ice.
@@billlang64 Summer tires? And you're wondering, why you got stuck in snow? xD
@@Corro_Dedd Pero no con el Subaru.
Awesome, would love to see same gen Audi vs Subaru in the future.
Have owned both. 1 Audi Quattro, 8 Subaru in 41 years. Audi mechanic told me NOT to own it after the warranty. Nothing but problems from Day 2 of ownership.
Subaru: Never replaced even exhaust, shocks, etc in 41 years.
I've had my 2007 A4 Quattro Avant for about 7 years now and repairs have not been outrageous, no more than any other car I've owned. Parts are easy to find and not as expensive as the trolls suggest other than the windshield wipers with their propriety connector.
@@jasonk9779
I didn't realize that audi used some bs connectors for their wiper blades when I brought some replacements. It was bs. After several minutes I figured out how to take apart my wiper blades and reused the connector. Now I can just buy any cheap blades and use them on my audi.
@@2010ngojo I may look into that as well and yeah, BS is right, the one thing that annoys me about Audi.
@@jasonk9779
You talking about the push button release kind, right?
If there's one thing anecdotal evidence provides...it's absolutely nothing useful.
Now i see where audi drivers reputation comes from. Seems like you have to rev the nuts off to make quattro transfer torque
bt6joso more like rev ur mum
I saw one in snow recently. Quattro really struggles on low grip. It wants atleast 2 gripping wheels otherwise you are going to get stuck. Which wierdly wasn’t an issue for our xdrive 320d but then again we did have a very good driver and a heavily loaded car.
PetrosRZ must be some broke-ass’ car. I mean low HP lmao
@@louvierejacques try driving ice at speed, but cool story. a tire's price doesnt tell how good it is. i never said its useless. i said there are some situations where it gets deafeated. There is a reason audi copied xdrive with their quattro ultra(Or whatever the heck is called). im not hating, i have better things to do
@@petrosrz8990 Audi copied xdrive with their quattro ultra? These systems are completely different. In fact, after tests Audi discarded the system used later on by Bmw.
Of all the AWD cars out there, I’d rate Subaru and Audi the best two. I’ve had 4 Audis, 3 Subarus. Never was able to get either stuck. And I often tried! But I give the nod to Subaru based on bang for the buck. Cheaper to buy and repair, and better MPG. But both great cars.
To audi cz subaru?
I work for Audi, I've owned both, Audi may have a slight traction advantage but ground clearance to an outback is lower so that will get you. The Audi is sexy and solid but costs more to own, the subi is cheaper and less problematic. Pick your poison. You will pay for luxury, it's a simple matter of what's slightly more important to you
Subaru Outback S-AWD the best ! 👍💪
Really not bad👍🏻
I've got an A4 Allroad and my daughter has a Subaru Crosstrek. I take both in the snow with absolute confidence.
I was a bit surprised by that last test. In all other tests the Subaru handled great but with only one rear wheel on the ground it really struggled. They could easily tune the software differently to solve this I guess.
Remco Meeder There must be X-Mode ON and VDC OFF to pass the last test easily.
Zaraz zima, poproszę o test pod górę na śliskim! W miarę podobnymi oponami. Super test - SUBARU górą, bez forsowania silnika. Tylko ta ostatnia próba, ale TCS OFF załatwiło sprawę
kumir Jest plan na taki test zimowy, o ile będzie śnieg...
Два хороших полноприводньіх автомобиля. Тест обееми сдан на 5
If the Subaru was more powerful it would be great car. Currently is just ok performance wise...or slow as perceived by many.
couldn't agree more
@@petrolheadl3856 With a 0-60 of 11 seconds with the CVT yeah, its SLOW.
@@jzoz I have a WRX and 300hp stage 2 levorg, both need to take over 6 second for 0-60, it's way too slow!
I pass lots of brands of shit on the highway....I drive 112 miles one way to work and no prob. Drag race???? Don't give no fucks....it's not meant to do that. Want the best mpg and the best AWD??? Then Subaru is the answer....if you want fast and shit AWD......buy anything else
@@teabag3854 Yes!
I work on both of this vehicles, Subaru are way more reliable and cheaper to maintain
Shocking
even older years subaru are just holdong like tanks . i have 2001 outback VDC. nothing brakes on it.
@Gibbon douchebag.....not proud.
You don't just say that.
@@SOBIsHobbies yes you do if its truth.
Audi guy is very agresive! Full power on the rollers 😀
The Audist is afraid of making his glorified VW look bad.
Cause it's a piece of shit car brand, most overrated one.
@@pete_5225 Subaru is for gays.
Matija Zajec
@@Ex6oN says The fifth 0
Excellent. Straight to the point
My 06 outback is unbelievable in the snow. It's smaller and lighter than the new ones, that helps a lot.
The perfect test, same conditions, and a easy winner: Subaru
The last test for subaru is how you do it..x mode on and traction control off!! what i use in the snow!!its literally tank mode for the outback!love ity!!
Auto mode subaru looks better than auto Quattro. but quattro offroad mode looks very good !
Don't have the Allroad in India. Settled for the Q5...Love it.
SUBARU shines when weather doesn't
better not say
@@MiKe-fe6bd indeed, it's a spot from Usa Subaru, not mine! 🙋😀
@@ORMA1 got it) What americans say about Subaru?They like it?)
@@MiKe-fe6bd (I'm from Italy, however, in North America Subaru is appreciated especially where snow falls, Canada included. In Indiana state there's a big factory where Usa Subaru are built. Someone says that Us Subaru are less...consistent than Japanese, but, I cannot say because my Legacy came from Japan.
Respect for Russia and Russians🙋
@@ORMA1 scusa amico)) I see.. in Russia its not very popular but i like it)XV 2018 very nice car
This is why I own a Subie and an Audi so I don't have to choose, either way: easily the two best AWD systems on the market
mrglobul12 you should try Lancer EVO X
Yea same here. I have a Subaru Outback 2016 2.0 Diesel, and Audi A8 4.2 V8,2002, . Love them both. both great to drive and do great in snow.
I have both also, best AWD systems
Try SH-AWD. And there are others. But yes, these two are very good. Audi's older system was certainly better for this type of driving tho. That's why you see the original Quattro in rally and not many modern style Audi AWD systems.
Haha I love the way that Subaru leaves the Audi behind in every test.
Its not bad but took 3 tries for last test. For subie & 2 for audi on last test.. Both solid tho. Evos is my fave tho
As a Subaru cheerleader, I'm surprised at this vid. Never knew Quattro was THIS good, and the fact that u have to hit switches on the last test to get the Subbie to succeed
Oh no, I have to push a button to get unstuck. I had better spend $20k more for a car that does not make me do that.
as a audi ladyboy, the subaru preformed way better despite the major major price different the n*sis are asking for the volkswagon
Who else came here to prove what they already know.
Your comment is proof of what I already know.
Muy buen test! saludos
desde Argentina
Thank you, greetings from Poland!
Thank you, the Allroad seems to handle the test better than the A6
I have a Subaru Outback 2011 S-AWD as a daily driver in Sweden often driving in snow, and when the grip gets really bad it's always ESP-OFF that helps me out.
Looks to me like the Subie transfers power to other wheels quicker and at lower speeds? The Audi’s wheels were having to spin faster until the power was then transferred? That’s what it looked like to me
I own both, on ‘05 Outback XT and an ‘18 Allroad as well as a ‘10 A3 TDI. Both are awesome in the slippery weather. Can not compare the fit, finish and tech of Audi. My (yes, dated ‘05 Outback XT) is no slouch but at best 25- 29 MPG easy driving. My Allroad driven same way 35-40 MPG. No exaggeration on MPG. Real world calculation. Compared to my ‘10 AUDI TDI at 45 MPG I couldn’t be happier. Both great vehicles. Both reliable (using my ‘10 TDI as comparison). Equipped with proper winter tires, either will go through just about anything. An ‘18 Subie is cheaper, but truthfully different targeted audiences. Audi is much more luxurious and tech equipped. My opinion, Subie an Audi produce best AWD.
dudes comparing a gas to a diesel engine WTF lmao
Both performed very similar in my opinion. It might seem that the driver was hitting harder on the Audi. But that's just due to the great low-end torque that makes for a fun sportier ride compared to that subaru cvt engine(better gas mileage). So torquey It kicks the rollers away after going over them. That eats your tires up quicker though. Thing is if you're on the market for a great reliable AWD vehicle and don't want to break the bank the Subaru is a much smarter buy. If you have money to burn then even a fully decked out Subaru might still be the smarter buy. I would have love to see you conduct the entire test in "REVERSE" gear as well.
Matt James Some tests were accidentally made on reverse gear, I will put it in FAQ video at the end of the year :)
You not only pay for awd in the Audi... Audi have much better quality and equipment that is not for free. You get what you pay for.
@@TheEryk03 LOL
No he just revved it harder....
I agree, reverse test!
Both looked close. For the prices Subaru charges these days ALL of their cars need another 50 horsepower. You also should have the option of a turbo engine or more powerful base 4 cylinder with any trim level. The turbo Outback, Forested and Legacy all failed because nobody wants to spend 40k plus just for a more responsive engine. You don't need every feature in existence just to get better passing power. Also drop the CVT transmission already, I shouldn't have to wait 3 seconds from the time I floor the car to the time it decides to accelerate while rolling in traffic. My old 07 outback with the 4 speed auto has better response for crying out loud 😂
хороший тест, сам владею таким субару и скажу что внешне он мне больше нравится чем ауди, в плюс можно записать что за цену нафаршерованной ауди можно купить таких два субару ))
Thanks 🙂
За внешку и салон ауди можно отдать 3 таких Субару :D
@@alexgobo20 да ладно вы хоть одной ауди а4 владели?
@@bazz3021 нет, только Субару :D
Субару действительно крут! За видео лайк)
Интересно было увидеть именно два этих автомобиля👍
Субарик молодец
Как всегда, вы лучшие !!!
Well with that out of the way, next up the Depreciation Test 😉
Luxury brands depreciate more than the Japanese companies. Luxury brands hold about only 30%. Whereas Subaru's in general hold over 60%. Both Quattro and the AWD system in Subaru's are excellent. Audi is a luxury brand and are a beautiful car. It will obviously cost you more in maintenance and repair. Subaru's lineup less and are known for very good reliability. Were comparing apples to oranges here. Audi's have really become a much much better manufacturers of vehicles than the past. Not so for Mercedes or BMW. Arguably Audi's are one of the best luxury brands out there next to Lexus which is always at the top spot for more than a decade. Acuras SH-AWD system has been proven an excellent AWD system. Consumers Reports named Subaru the best company for 2019. Mainly because of the new global platform Forester, Crosstrek and new Ascent 7 seater 260HP turbo that has a 5,000lb. towing capacity with a CVT transmission. Which is one of the best CVT transmissions out there next to Honda's. The new Lexus subcompact class is also using a CVT.
Владею Audi Q5 2014 2.0tfsi ZF8 & Subaru Outback 2019 FB25, cvt-7. Могу сказать как пользователь, что по душе больше Ауди, так как комфорт в Ауди более качественно продуман. Subaru не плохой авто, но в долгой дороге, и по мелочам очень расстраивает... По качеству подонки деталей на уровне моего трака RAM1500 slt
В последних двух тестах Ауди за счет инерции колёс съезжает а не за счет работы привода
Nope, all you see is the operation of awd system.
Нужны обороты thorson
I wonder if the tires are catching the sides of the rollers. It seems the vehicles (especially the Audi) pull out abruptly from the three roller test when the driver applies aggressive power. That may move the vehicle left and right a bit to catch the stationary side of rollers. The driver should have kept the throttle at a steady level. Maybe.
If if tires catch the frame - it doesn't help: th-cam.com/video/NVkyZJlox4Y/w-d-xo.html
When it comes to throttle - here is full video about it: th-cam.com/video/dFs0OOUtPeE/w-d-xo.html
Just join Subaru owner then see this videos. I'm glad I made the choice :)
Exactly the same colour and style of wheels I had on the Outback. I miss that car
Good video, Thank you from Thailand.
I'm asking for older model - Outback Bh with H6 engine, how do you think will perform on diagonal tests?
@@TheW0rldisMine-b2l That depends if there is LSD on the rear, if so - how strong it is...
У Субару как то на мой взгляд лучше привод сработал не так ли ?
Тільки так
All I noticed is that in the last test, Subaru somehow applies braking to certain wheels, when Audi just spins them without stopping. Wouldnt say that spinning the wheels endlessly will help in mud/snow/sand. You'd just end up deeper in the terrain.
The newest Subaru have xmode 1.0 and 2.0 for that partical situation, the 2.0 version have a pre set for snow & mud and Deep snow & deep mud which allow the wheels to spin to have enough speed to plow thru deep snow without the computer slowing you down.
For deep snow, you can turn off the traction control as well.
@@denistheriault1866 th-cam.com/video/VercXAo4rog/w-d-xo.html
Two legends.
Молодец мужик,хорошие тесты!Сделай kia sportage 2 и Tiguan 1!!!
Thanks! Tiguan 1 is here: th-cam.com/video/dtx6w_WqVNs/w-d-xo.html
Sportage 2 wasn't tested yet...
Great comparison video
My 2015 Subaru diesel premium auto is best ,smooth cvt,can’t feel gear changing when driving,good fuel consumption side lookings are awesome,large boot
Do you know what a cvt is? Of course, you don't notice any gear changes because a CVT has no gears at all
Good to know, if ever I find myself driving on rollers on a flat parking lot. 😉
My STi has front and rear limited slip diffs, along with a driver controlled center diff - so I pretty much got it covered from a hardware perspective.
Most important is the right tires for maximum traction for the conditions. (snow, dirt & mud, dry & hot, or cold, wet, heavy loam, etc)
Audi like it could escape four rollers. This is one of the best special interest car channels.
Классный тест!
Interesting, thanks for this test, and for getting right to it instead of dicking around for 5 minutes first lol. The Subaru was closer to the Audi than I expected. I have an Outback. If money were no object (and if I had a garage to park it in) I'd take the Audi because they're so nice! But since I have to park outside, I'm very happy with my Outback.
My pleasure 👍
Good comparison. I’ve had an STI and WRX but if i had my choice right now I’d take an Audi
It would be difficult to say Subaru didn’t win, even though I wanted the Quattro to. I think the Audis really need better front and rear differentials, but everything would benefit from that in this test
Front and rear differentials in Subaru and Audi are the same - open.
Suby from kenya with love
You can clearly see that you need to floor the Audi and with the Subaru you can see the brake kicks in at the wheel that have wheel spin, except the last one the Subaru struggles.
I wonder why they cant fix the small issues that are left.. just ad the parametres in the computer and it should be fine.
I think the Subaru was superior in this test, and this has been proven over and over again.
But nothing beats a true diff lock on all 4.. they should just add that option to the system and both cars will perform lot better on hard offroad..
- but none of these cars are ment to do hard offroad, so it is not needed..
Yeah guys but the Audi has the Haldex System with the 2.0. try the same with an 3.0 and the real quattro inside.. should make a big difference!
@Christoph Kollmer This is not Haldex, but Quattro Ultra. And in fact it is better for such test cause it may lock itself, unlike "real" quattro.
Subaru love
My car: 1998 Jeep Cherokee, Detroit Truetracs in both diffs, lockable center. No electronics. Does all of this. My wife's car: Honda Crosstour V6 AWD. Does fine. I'll give up the ability to go over the rollers for 30 mpg.
they are super close wow, but either subie needs to reinvent cvt or manual options
I have had an Audi A3 and Audi A4, both Quatto. I drove a Suburu Crossfit and got smoked by an old Oldsmobile. The CVT transmission felt like a rubber band about to snap. I have seen on a TH-cam channel where the people bring an extra CVT belt when off reading just in case it snaps. I have so much fun driving my Audi in the snow. Sure Suburu Is great also but the CVT is horrible. Trying to pass is slow. Hit the gas on my Audi and gone.
best system awd
Nice to have choices. Like what you want and buy what you like. Just enjoy.
Like the Subaru performance... Worth every penny!!
Can you guys include a cornering test? This test gives me great info on how an awd system would perform if it were stuck in snow. But that only accounts to maybe 1-2 instances a year depending on snow fall. I think adding a "cornering test" would be a better indicator of how an awd system performs. Plus, it would give us a more accurate real world result, being that we have to go around corners everytime we get behind the wheel.
Unfortunately no, we do not have any possibility to do cornering tests.
$20 000 difference in price. Subaru all the way. Both are quality products but Audi not value for money, in my opinion.
Daisy Superdog you don’t just pay for the awd system it’s the luxury and how well build it is
@@viccao8431 the problem is that every few months something will break in the Audi. Most likely engine parts.
The Subi will run and run and run...
Build quality is one thing, reliability a whole different story
Master Kiryu where did you hear that from? In my experience and many others that’s not the case
@@viccao8431 family, friends, etc...
Master Kiryu you must of had really bad luck but in NA the Audi’s are solid
Great video.
In the last test /3 wheels on rollers/ it seems like audi applies brakes while Subaru isn't clear. Anyway in proper ice conditions, 3 wheels off means no movement, and would require locking 3 differentials like Merc G wagon.
Thanks.
Subaru also applies brakes but it requires appriopriate setup. So requires Audi. Both cars would handle situation with only one wheel with grip.
Subaru awesome
hi! do you have a test of Quattro ultra vs previous generation?
Hi! Here it is: th-cam.com/video/PftzZWpTJFY/w-d-xo.html
Interesting comparison on (2) very similar systems. After everything is said & done, based on what I'm seeing here, the Outback wins this contest quite handily. Another point to consider is the vehicles cost factor. The Audi is one luxurious beauty & it costs a pretty penny too and is a well built German car. The thing about the Japanese auto manufacturers is they own the patent on copying other automakers technology & then making it better!
Since I own a 2017 Subaru Outback Limited, 2.5i ( $32,385.00 ) out the door, my opinion is no doubt biased. I can say this with authority however concerning the Subie, in the real world of driving, i.e., ( n. central VT ) in the winter. The factory Bridgestone tires, all season M&S Duellers tyres are as useless as " tits on a boar hog ". The car cannot get out of it's own way on a flat surface in 1" of snow, unless it is ultra cold snow with zero moisture. HOWEVER, I installed a set of " winter tires " just (2) days ago & that was the game changer after 19 mos. of ownership with more " white knuckle " moments I ever care to remember on those "JUNK " Bridgestones. I went with the best, i.e., the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 SUV directional winter tyres in 225/60R18. They are surprisingly quiet on the pavement and do they ever dig in the snow! I live in steep mtn. country with a steeper still 350 ft. long d/way. After a few days of testing these tires, the vehicle's traction control light has not come on once as the vehicle now for the 1st time feels controllable on the snowy corners & various grades. The moral of the story here is TIRES... The traction ability of any system, be it 4X4, AWD, 4x2, limited slips in multiple combinations are only as good as the tires will allow...
Great presentation here imho & thank you... :-)
very different systems they are.
yes, the Bridgestone Duelers are absolute shiite and Subaru should be ashamed to put them on their vehicles. I switched to a set of Yokohama Geolanders after 22k. Have yet to truly test them out, but they heads above the mushy sidewall garbage Duelers. Still would like to put some decent Rallitek springs on, as the stock springs are sub-par as well.
I'm thinking about buying a Subaru. I've always heard good things about them. Great video. Very interesting.👍
Odin's Thanks :)
Is Subaru transmission a CVT?
@Aldo Yes.
I am a Subaru owner, never thought it could match Audi Quattro, as Audi is like more than 2x price than Subaru in my country.
Good advertisement for Subaru
Here’s all you need to know: The Audi A4 allroad is a joy to drive. Do all the spinning wheel tests you want- the Subaru Outback drives like a minivan and will make you sad
The outback is a wagon lifted version of the legacy did you ever try one to say that???
@@thatfrenchcanadian5779 he's definitely never driven one
Subary !!!
What's a subary?
I love my Subaru, but I wouldn't knock back an Audi either, especially the RS7, that's my dream car right there!
Люблю я ауди и тяжко признать что субару было проще!!!
Да, все таки субару этот тест сдал с лёгкостью.
О чём вы?Внимательно посмотрите...Там где субарик включил блокировку,а затем и какуюто ещё жрень и еле уехала,аудюха лишь немного поднапряглась...
@@ЮрийБайкулов-й3е если объективно смотреть то так или иначе субару победитель. И откуда вам знать, что субару включал, вы же в салоне не сидели во время тестов
@@ЮрийБайкулов-й3е у субы нет блокировки кроме меж осевой все остально вспомогательная электроника
Thanx for Upload👍🏼
Very interesting Video.
Greetings from Austria
Thanks, greetings from Poland!
duszaniespokojna - 4x4 tests on rollers
interesting would be a comparison Subaru against a Tesla P100D😬
😉
@@frank_realtor Good idea ;)
Too many motorist spaced out on German cars in England, Subaru AWD is unbelievable, with decent rubber handling is up with the very best.
@Ali Alexander much rather a smooth Subaru petrol car than an Audi oil burner which is what they flog off to most Britons with nice cash incentives.
Люблю Ауди алроуд, купил себе аутбек:-)
Такое порно снимают владельцы субару)))))) зачем на ауди выключать (esp) система стабилизации и антибукс??? При включеном esp никогда кваттро не будет буксовать! Кватро передает максимальный крутящий момент на колесо, которое имеет наибольшее сцепление с дорожным покрытием! Владел 4мя автомобилями ауди, проверено на собственном опыте)
@@bwoodod здравствуйте. В таком случае как объясните это видео?? Акура со своим полным приводом SH-AWD, который как раз и славится тем, что может выдавать максимальный крутящий момент на колесо, прошла испытания, а ауди нет.
I watched many of these.
Why does the power go to the wheel with less traction?
It look like open diff.
Front and rear diffs are open, in both cars.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers
Im new to this. So what matters is the Front-Rear power distribution 50-50 / 70-30, and the differential itself (open, LSD, torsen)?
What else plays a role?
@@walter1824 In this case both cars have clutch-packs instead of center differentials. Power is shifted from front to back and it is variable, it depends how much the clutch pack is compressed. Clutch open = FWD. Clutch fully compressed = 50/50 (axles locked together).
Subaru 4ever. Regards form moscow
Ильдар Хуснутдинов Regards from Rzeszów :)
Subaru 4ever. Regards form London and Ukraine;)
Was this with the 'x-mode' on or off with the Subaru? It would be interesting to see a comparison between the 2 modes.
Joe K It was ON only during the last test, you have a mark on the screen... There are tests on my channel of Outback diesel with x-mode on and off. check it out!
Subaru more impressive here 👍
So after watching numerous videos showing Subies with underpowered engines trying to climb hills, I jumped at the chance for a 3.6R when I was shopping. I can't find any videos of the 3.6R on your list though. Have you had the chance to capture one yet? After driving very capable 4X4 trucks off road, the Outback 3.6R has been an eye opening experience in what I was missing. Thoughts on the 3.6R?
Unfortunately I didn't test 3.6R, I hope I'll get it someday - especially that it has completely different awd system.
Subaru rules!!
always confused on these subaru's with x mode, I would think the spinning wheel would break occasionally to send power around but they don't
Сравнили новый аутбэк со старым а4)) с новым а6 надо сравнивать) и вес одинаковый будет и доработки на приводах новые у обоих...а4 с легаси надо тестить
Это новый А4 в кузове B9,с 2016 года выпускается
на этой ауди даже не торсен. ультра муфта
@@kfkfk982 я в курсе
@@kfkfk982 но от торсена уже ушли,везде будут муфты,значит это не так и плохо (правда неизвестно,что там с перегревом и последующим отключением оси)
Was it a different driver for each car
Yes. Drivers are instructed what to do, that is to press acceleration pedal and wait for the reaction of the car.
Subaru лучшая!