Brand New Trek Emonda Launched With An Aero Update | First Look | Cycling Weekly
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- James goes hands on with the brand new 2021 Trek Emonda, detailing its latest frame designs that make it both lightweight and aerodynamically fast. What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comment section below!
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Don't get me wrong, nice bike and all. But all the talk about 60g lighter, 18 seconds faster on Alp d'Huez etc is pretty much irrelavant for 99,9% of the riders on this planet. And 350W over one hour? Achievable for many of us? Give me a break! Let's call it for what it is: marketing b*llsh*t.
Well, remember this bike WILL be raced at the TdF, Giro, Vuelta etc... in those races that time saving will matter, so not really bulls**t, just not relevant to most people who will own one.
@@2wheelsbest It is bull crap as World champ won in the sprint on the shallowest wheel of the bunch. So give a break man.
Yep marketing crap and the weight the sl7 8 kg for a 5,000 bike no thanks
What else are you going to blow your money on ;-D
350w for an hour...come on guys...be realistic and critical! You are journalists not the marketing department of the XYZ company...
Easily achievable by a lot of riders. Eh? 5,6 watts per kg on the flat for an hour? Or they referring to 100kg riders? 😂
Although I own a few trek bikes and certain amount of brand loyalty, I think the facts concerning ascending the alpe d'huez have far too many variables and to be taken with the usual pinch of marketing-media-tripe. Come on guys were not as stupid as you look.
considering the "fastest" bikes according to Strava average around 14MPH...350w for an hour is a far fetched marketer's dream.
"achievable" costing your legs and back 😬
@@LarsRR Surely the Emonda is also targeted at lightweight climbers and not big crit specialists.
350 W for be 6 W/kg for me. If I could do that for an hour as an amateur then I could probably become a worldtour rider. And that's assuming a 1 hour TT, not a normal race.
And if your in the female half of the population that power is even more absurd.
Cycling weekly reading straight from the marketing material instead of providing a realistic unbiased assessment.
@@yicheng1991 But to be fair, James (the presenter) did say that he'd just received it. Would you prefer to wait a month for some hands-on experience or see the bike now in the flesh? Personally I'm pleased to see the model he had there as it's pretty ugly in that spec compared to the other versions. Boring grey! Why? This is likley to be the biggest seller in the range so why such a dull looking bike.
Exactly
Got my Emonda Yesterday - SL5 - gorgeous thing
I'm impressed that you managed the whole video whilst balancing a giant caterpillar on your top lip. _(I'm jealous, it's very impressive)_
Hahaha
Hahahaha
Lol
Added over 150grams to the the emonda. Major drag....
🤣🤣🤣
350w for an hour is quite an achievable power for most riders? uhhhh, not so much.
Dude I just got my trek emonda SL6
From spokes ect in Alexandria va
For $4000 dollars 😎🤙🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
And I freaking love this bike
You`ve should take one for 9k. You would rape this bike instead just loving it.
are they really on third gen already??? my 2016 is a first gen
They wanna make it aero and they slam the disc brakes on????
Marketing gimmick. Disc brakes really spoilt the look of the bicycles. it truly is the biggest gimmick in the history of bicycles. it is really sad.
Lost any interest with the 350w nonsense. Just more marketing Bla Bla Bla.
Over 10k $aus to get di2? Point me to the nearest Giant dealer please!
I wonder if the Aluminum Alr5 gonna also get a Redesign🤔
Their integrated cable system seems like a nice compromise of access and aero, but it looks vulnerable to water intrusion if taking spray from the bike in front of you during rain.
Fantastic video. I just bought my first road bike, a 2020 Trek Domane, and I feel like I have been reborn
Just bought the Emonda SL5, and I couldn't be happier !
Truly a great Bike !
What a mustache
Disc brakes are shit I don’t understand why manufacturers keep bringing out disc only bikes. I’ve lived with disc bike for 5 years now an apart from better braking performance everything else is terrible. Expensive heavy an fragile, i go through a calliper every 6 months an in Majorca it lasted 4 days before it overheated
If you overheated disc brakes, you would have toasted rim brakes and ruined carbon rims if you used them.
My mate was on rim brakes he never had a problem, the only good disc calliper that doesn’t give any problems is the hope rx4, Shimano & SRAM are garbage
Does anyone at CW actually ride the bikes and evaluate them?
This is a first look because the bike has just launched. We'll be doing a full review when James has had time to ride the bike. You'll find loads of complete and impartial reviews on the chanmel.
@Andrew Levitt nothing more than reading the marketing department's cliff notes.
I'll never buy a trek
Lance Armstrong special
Oh yeah
Heeeell yeah!
Actually I checked. For a 150lb man, 350 watts would put you right in the middle of the cat1 racer range.
350 watts ?!?! C'mon guys , what about the below 200 watts mediocre C riders like the rest of us ? The bike industry is getting g outta control with all this marketing baloney 🤣🤣🤣
So I’ll save 13 to 18 seconds on the climb?!?! Guess I’m paying a Kings ransom to get to the climb 1 minute faster....think I’ll stick with my old Edmonda!
"18 seconds faster than older emonda, 13 seconds faster than older tarmac."
So tarmac was 5 seconds faster for older generation, and now that new tarmac is coming out in a month.. Interesting results? ;)
@@LarsRR The problem is that it`s the cyclist not the bike but somehow mamils are braindead enough to not comprehend with this simple fact. Real racers don`t give a damn what bike they ride. BTW... Can you imagine pro cyclist whining that because he was on the tarmac he lost coz opponent was on emonda? Grow up and dont buy this marketing crap.
@@LarsRR To be clear Lars... I am 100% with you man amd you're completely right. My example was to show that riders don't complain that they lost because not aero enough rig or wheels had too much rolling resistance because too narrow. Everyone deep enough in racong knows that if you loose it's not because wheels or frame.
Cheers
It will save 1 second on Box Hill!
LMAO
For those not liking the 350 watts up Alpe reference they also mentioned in a Trek podcast that the new version 20 plus watts quicker than the old version on the flat at 40kmh. (I just ordered an SLR frameset to build up. Will report back when complete)
Considering the "fastest" bikes according to Strava average around 14MPH...350w for an hour is a far fetched marketer's dream.
if you was doing the time trial, you'd have to shave that rat from under your nose, some drag going on there.
New Emonda looks like Madone 7. At the age Trek’s product line was not separated to lightweight bike and aerodynamic bike.
I’d like to see a review where the presenter isn’t an advertising patsy for the company they are reviewing. This was just a bloke reading off the sheet that Treks own marketing lawyers told him to read.
Hey Dylan, this wasn't a review, just what we know about the bike so far because it's new. James has a bike so he'll do a full review when he feels like he has spent enough time on it.
the stash.. I get too scared to finish the vid.its overwhelming.
Impressively light by the looks of it I just wonder how light can bikes get without compromising the frames integrity? Probably would explode if you bunny hopped a curb
Everything has to be faster, lighter, more aero... those of us who don’t race don’t care! What we want is more FUN. How does it feel to ride? How does it make you feel when you pull it out the garage? That’s what I want to know. Dinner won’t be cold if I’m 60 seconds later home after my hour ride at *ahem* 350W
Then you don't need to look at high end bikes built for racers of ability. All you need is a big box Schwin.
Aero doesn’t help on steep climbs!
Forgot, aerodynamics stop being a thing just because you're going uphill...just because you're going slower doesn't mean that aero just flat out doesn't matter.
This ad sucks.
I’m already bored of aero ish bikes. I miss when a top end climbing bike meant a sub 5 or 6kg ultralight bike, instead of a load of marketing bs that you can’t actually feel out on the road.
True, the model started with sub 5kg and is now sub 7. About 2kg weight penalty and it's marketed as an improvement. Aero benefit might be a slight advantage but in terms of speed and climbing this makes no sense at all. Crazy.
I agree. You want aero??? Slam the stem and stay there. Don't spend 5k on cheating 8 watts at a speed you can't achieve in a position you can't maintain
One more thing to note is that ultra light models use high mod carbon which is very brittle which is risky to use. The pinarello high mod models even place a weight limit of 70 of for thier high mod bikes
parth mache maybe, but canyon entry level aeroad with disc brakes has 105, is an aero bike with deep section wheels, and is STILL lighter than the new emonda shown in the video. To me that’s ridiculous and I don’t know why people would pay £3350 for an 8.2 kg ‘climbing bike’.
@@parthmache4733 there's more to a light bike than a light frame you know.
Plus what the bike industry calls high modulus is actually not even close to true high modulus laminates. Just marketing bullshit and trying to sell you substandard materials
What about the time savings for an aero climbing bike on the descent?
You might be pleased to note that trek emonda comes only with disc brakes.... NO, I am not pleased to note that. As a "climbing" (?) bike it should have lighter rim brakes. At least that's what I would prefer.
What about the frame stiffness. Older Emondas were quite "flexy" compared to some of their competitors.
Just been out on my first ride and I have to say the stiffness has certainly been improved. Super tight, lovely and responsive when putting down power. It now feels far more competitive.
Giant tcr has always worked for the stiffness to weight ratio. Still bike manifacturers makes numbers up, every year they improve the bike by a small margin. In 10 year I guess we'll be flying at 50km/h uphill
luca bonato there will always be ways a bike can be improved. Although if they want us to ride at 50km/h then they better start working on motor tech😁
😁👍🏾i like it may be my next bike, aero & light with the full groupset included, unlike Cannondale that cheap out certain components.
turbosalsa exactly!
That's one impressive moustache. It doesn't look very aero though :)
lmafo
TREK are the masters at "marketing" (Bullshitting!)......nice colours though on the team bike!
I have a 2020 SL Emonda, would be keen to know more about the 1.5 fit and how that compares to h2. Is there much difference?
Liam Y only if you slam your stem, otherwise they overlap.
So it's basically a Domane with no ISO Speed?......Ok?
No superlight, no superfast and very ugly bike,, looks for children bike, only good looking big big sizes. I keep my old Emonda or time to look for another brand.
Hi.
That model of Emonda SL6 PRO 2021 can be passed to electronic, either to Shimano Di2 or SRAM?
Greetings from El Salvador.
James: Great Job on this video. Thanks
Bike companies are actually spitting in our face thinking that we are dumb and buy this crap statements. No respect to the community only money money money. Good luck.
I know a lot of people that can push 350W for 45min up an 8% grade. That's just a warm-up for me.
You talk about aerodynamics as if the bicycle was driven by a ghost, in fact, there is a damn bulky dude on top of it.
350 Watts for an hour, 'achievable for most riders'! 😂😂😂 In what world? Certainly not the amateur world! I know a lot of good amateur cyclists who couldn't get anywhere near 350 for an hour.
350 watts ftp is in the neighborhood of Greg Lemond performance
Incredibly bike very light amazing climber. best bike i ever Bought
Even the 2019 Emonda SL is a stunning bike, happy I managed to grab one in end of season sale.
Can't wait to see glamorous cyclists putting hip steerer bags in front of it wearing flappy clothing being overweight and talking about how fast this bike is.
I have had the Trek Émonda SLR 9 Durace for 6 weeks now and I can honestly say that the bike looks beautiful - it is a bike made for glossy reviews or magazine articles for sure - BUT it rides and sounds like a pig. It is a bone shaker even with just 90psi in the 28mm tyres. The disc brakes are all power and no finesse or feel and the drive train is the noisiest I have ever known plus when coasting the free hub sounds like a chainsaw at full tilt. Other than that it is fine. Except for the saddle which is shit. Dream bike? Hardly. Way overrrated and way way over priced. Now there is an honest review for you!
😆 I own this bike and it's everything and more than what's advertised
Wrong 30c max tire size , and most certainly 30c on rear 28 on front is what it needs in the winter anyway.
Also probly found the most cheapest carbon frame in the worl
I got 2020sl5 $500 cheaper !
Got this a year later in my feed. Maybe because now I can actually order it and hope for delivery next year?
Go and lift them - They are heavier 8.4kg then the old Emonda which is 6.5 to 7kg - I will not be upgrading Trek you have F'd up here
"lift them"? That isn't an accurate way to compare weight. There are a lot of things that change the weight. What are you actually comparing? Are you comparing apples to apples?
Was a follow-up ever made for the Emonda SL 6?
Haha both you and. Ike radar both said capacious. Trek must have suggested it ;)
The bottom bracket has never been good of trek hahah, it's just shit because in time te carbon in the bracket wil become bigger and the bearings wil not fit anymore .....
How much faster without disc brakes though
Incredible bike
"9:08 - "You might be PLEASED to know the new Emonda ONLY comes in Disc brake."
Who would be pleased with that?? Not those who prefer rim brakes.
And for those who prefer disc brakes, why would they care/be pleased that there is not a rim brake option??
Good review, but that was a very silly comment, which some might see as biased in favour of the manufacturer's marketing hype to push disc brakes.
Just change the bike name to the Huez. Emonda isn’t even a climb like the Col De La Madone.
What we want is an actual ergonomic bike. This is almost the limit on how fast a BIKE can probably be. Now is the time to make it affordable. "Oh man I can't wait for the new trek monde to be 10g lighter", well that's probably the case for uh... let's see... 1% of the world population? What kind of movement is this.
Then this bike isn't for you. There are plenty that are. Why bitch about one that isn't?
this is not a review, this is unbranded marketing/pr work.
by the way, a trek OCLV more than 10 years ago was lighter an did not break the bank. How about telling the viewers about the not-top notch models as well? which a quite heavy, expensive and - apart from the name - has nothing in common with the top shelf models.
also, guys, give us a break. as a research eningeer: for what rider weight is the time gap between tarmac and emonda calculated? if the rider is as heavy as 88kg he/she still has a ftp of around 4W/kg, which is quite high (...) or is it more around 3.5W/kg which is more realistic but would put the rider around 100kg. then the VAM performance would not depending on aerodynamics anymore.
to put it short: you are either repeating nonsense unchecked, or dont give a damn.
geisslersonMC this was never intended to be a review, merely a first look or ‘showcase’ - it says so in the title! We will be doing a proper review in the future when I am happy that I have tested the bike enough.
Been looking forward for this bike!
Remember when the Scott Addict LTD hit the scales at 13 lbs back in 2007, and cost $10,000? 15 years later and we have this with more gears and disc brakes.
Are the new Bontrager intergrated bars compatible with older Trek bikes?
Your mustache is distracting.
It was super aero road bike so beautiful
I am 177cm can I ride 56 frame size? or for me max 54?
SL7 etap 2021 Emonda my favorite
30y on cycling, 30y riding Treks. This will be my next road bike for Xmas.
my trek checkpoint weighs 8.84kg in a size 58
You want super light, so you put discs and di2🤷♂️
Love my 2017, this model has me smitten! Once out of this COVID Bs, purchasing one!
Nice but definitely not in the league of the S works Tarmac SL7
Far better
Okay okay I'll get man relax! Lol I got it! It's one of the best bikes ever made.
Only available in disk break... why? No but really, why?
Because the demand from consumers is for disk brake. It would cost a lot of money to develop two completely different bikes and they would sell fewer bikes of each to disperse the cost. If they develop basically one frame to do both with few changes, each would be a compromise.
This bike looks a little similar to old specialized venge
When is that full review dropping? I'm hovering over the buy button but waiting to see if the bike is actually any good. There are no other reviews out there yet that give a true sense of how it rides.
Hi been watching your programs and I'm in the process of getting a new one
Need to decide between the sl6 pro and sl6 etap.. please advise usd 1300 different
Difference
28 MM TIRE CLEARENCE? NOT 38 MM?
I’ve being want to buy a trek road bike for about 5 years and I think I finally know which trek to buy. Thank you
Emonda of the future: OCLV over 9000
OCLV 9000 GP ASLR ADVANCED PRO XXX 4 QR WWW 7XLV 5TH GEN ULTRA LIGHT.
350W is average??????
The meat blob on the bike accounts for almost all aerodynamic drag. The bike drag is not significant so reducing it is even less so. The meat blob also accounts for almost all the weight between rider and bike. The weight of the bike is not significant so reducing it is even less so. See a pattern?
Everything I’ve ever wanted in a trek bike!!!
Awesome bike but I don’t know how much the missus loves me 😁
They say it’s the fast bike up the hills but I don’t see the engine anywhere.
More mechanics faces headache problem
Like the route they went with the Edmonda
What would be the preferred size im 170cm for Trek Emonda SL5 disc only, will use for long rides and climbing?
Dan, if you are looking for a long hr comfort ride Emonda series won’t offer you that! Trek Emonda maybe good for road racing!
@@csplauI ride my Emonda for 2.5 hrs. Doing 45 to 50 miles.
I would say maybe a 52cm
Beautiful bike. I wonder why the front tire is so far away from the downtube?
I have last year's model and there's a surprising amount of toe overlap (56cm frame). It's also a very nimble, perhaps squirrely, bike. Perhaps if the wheel angle was steeper, bringing it closer towards the frame, it would be too unstable and if the frame was larger and pushed up to the wheel, it would lose that snappy handling the Emonda has?
So the new Madone can't be far behind?
I think I just found my next bike!