I think the government placed me on watch after seeing all my sus Google searches about blood while I was making this video 😭/j Question of the day: What are some foods you think it should be illegal to eat with a fork? My answer: Soup, cheeseburgers, pizza, and sandwiches. Also, I have a confession to make. I eat my fries with a fork. Sue me.
I barely even use forks, I eat most of my food with my hands. Though I have eaten pizza with a fork. A few times. Because my dad insisted. I have also eaten soup with a fork, accidentally, because of chicken in the soup and I accidentally ate quite a bit of my soup with a fork. But… eating rice with a fork… seems wrong. Though maybe that is because I eat rice a lot and mostly use my hands. But rice. (Edit: This was much longer then intended, I’m sorry)
Fatespeaker was born with the talons of peace not on the volcano and was probably born under the same situation as whiteout, it’s always made perfect sense to me
As far as I know, it wasn't confirmed that Fatespeaker was born in the Talons of Peace (though correct me if I'm wrong). In fact, it would seem more likely that she was born on the volcano initially, but was eventually raised with the Talons of Peace. It was only said that they were raised to believe they were the dragonets of destiny. It never specified exactly where they hatched, and seeing as the plan to create the false dragonets was suggested later, it's more likely they were taken in at a young age. After all, why would they think to find doubles when the originals hadn't even hatched yet?
@@Dogloverlikesdoge in The Dark Secret, Fatespeaker mentions how she had some distant memories of being on the volcano. So I think she was born on the volcano, but moved to the Talons shortly after she hatched, if I remember correctly.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge yeah it is kinda strange i’ve never really thought about it before cause the only way fatespeakers powers could work was if she was born with the talons of peace so i just kinda assumed that’s what happened and didn’t think much of it
@@nightflyer7719 OH YEAH you’re right! But something weird is darkstalker had faint memories in his egg right before he hatched could be something like that maybe? It’s the only way it could really work (speaking from a headcanon perspective not a writing one cause i am pretty sure just tui just messed up) Edit- grammar
Possible theory for why Sky can speak dragon: You mentioned that dragons aren't born with the ability to speak dragon, but I think it's actually more of a difference in how Bumblebee and Sky were raised before hatching. We know that the Hivewings put their eggs in a quiet hatching place, where no one really talks, and that's where Bumblebee came from. However, I think that maybe the Skywing's eggs are perhaps kept in a place that's less isolated and quiet than the Hivewing hatchery, and they could hear words through the eggshell. So perhaps that's how Sky can speak dragon? I know it still doesn't make a lot of sense, but maybe Sky also learned from observing other dragons' speech and putting together what he knew with what he learned from that. This theory definitely doesn't make that much sense, and I think it's kindof me just grasping at straws- But that's what theories are for, right? /rh (also if I get facts wrongs, I haven't read Draghonslayer in like two years, oops)
I do like your idea of them being able to hear through the shells! Especially if they can hear as soon as their layed. Perhaps mother dragons talk to their eggs and try to teach them before they enter the world even, at least for SkyWings? Great theory!
Thats actually a really good theory! if a human baby can hear people talking outside of the womb, why cant a hatchling hear woirds from inside the egg!
Hey for your point about RainWing blood, I study ecology, so here are some points that prove their blood could totally be red! There are tons of frugivore species (animals which eat mainly fruit as their diet, like RainWings), all of which have red blood! This includes bats, lots of bird species, and even some species of apes and canines. Also, there are human diets which primarily consist of eating fresh fruits and vegetables, in some extreme cases NOTHING else, and these people still have red blood. So why is that? All of these species still survive without consuming animal products because all plants contain a small amount of iron. As you said, nothing can survive without iron, meaning plants, too, can't survive without it either. Otherwise, all of the species in the rainforests that don't consume anything but fruit or leaves wouldn't survive. Herbivores and frugivores usually have to eat a lot more than omnivores or carnivores, though, in order to get the amount of iron (and other nutrients) that they need. Large species like cows have to consume literal TONS of grass or feed per day in order to survive. Since the RainWings are larger than cows, they'd probably be okay consuming fruit for the most part... they'd just need a lot of it. But I do agree that they should've been shown eating more nuts as most frugivores do consume nuts on a daily basis as well which definitely brings the number of things they need to eat per day down.
Hey um I have a question so in the rain wing graphic novel book I didn't get the thing about how they spit on a leaf and they realize they're related, and i also didn't get how they cured the little dragon who got spit with venom by another rain wing by adding more venom
My explanation for the first one: (Feel free to pokes holes in it) Fatespeaker is delusional, it's totally because she was told she was a prophecy dragonet, and I think other dragonets did get the empath powers like Fatespeaker's, but they didn't mention it, because they didn't want to be seen as a wierdo, and probably used it to manipulate other dragons.
@@moniquegerken182 I'm not quite sure what you define as powers, because Icewings have fatal frostbreath, and extremely sharp claws/tail, Mudwings can hold their breath for extended periods of time, can be immune to fire. Not to mention Sandwings' venomous tails, Seawings being able to live underwater, while being fast swimmers, and Glory gas Magical Death Spit. (Wait i hear an enraged dragon coming for me and yelling "It's NOT Magical Death Spit!!!")
Sky learning to speak dragon has always boggled me! But I would have never thought of RainWing blood not being red! I like how you broke it down in a scientific way, I learned so much about blood that I didn't even know about! Awesome video!!
Skywings might have different instincts than most dragons, after all, they learn how to fly at a early age, and mudwings are born with the instinct to help their siblings hatch, just like most reptiles. It might just be an adaptation of sorts.
I just remembered something else that doesn’t make sense: Darkstalker’s bracelet. It was made for him when he was a dragonet/young adult, and yet stayed on until he was the size he is now. The only thing that broke it was the earthquake, even though it *should* have broken much sooner since Darkstalker’s wrist was ginormous.
Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about that -- you're totally right! I doubt Fathom also added that the bracelet would change in size as he grew, because they probably never accounted for that.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Yeah. They also never describe it afterwards, at least in size, and it seems unlikely Fathom would think about how giant Darkstalker could grow.
Extremely late but I’m pretty sure that fathom enchanted it to be invincible, which also accounts for somehow staying on Darkstalker as he grew. Or maybe Darkstalker was still the same size as the day he was put to sleep, but as he awoke he grew. AND HOW DID DARKSTALKER WAKE UP??
@@kitcatmunchkinWe never heard the exact enchantment Fathom put on it, since he enchanted it by thinking, so I guess it's possible that he enchanted it to grow with Darkstalker. Darkstalker was explicitly stated to have just been growing the whole time, because dragons always get bigger as they grow. It wouldn't make sense for him to just suddenly grow. And he woke up because the asteroid that flew by and caused the false brightest night created a lot of earthquakes, one of which broke Darkstalker's bracelet.
Truly interesting! There are a few things here I never realised and kinda brushed off (guilty). But there is some logic to a few of them. For Fatespeaker having powers, it is strange to think that no one else before her had ever gotten powers of any sort. But there's one key difference between her and others; she was chosen as a "back-up" dragonet of destiny. That could mean Fatespeaker's egg was moved to a different location from any hatchery the NightWings had. So it could be that only she had gotten her weak mind-reading because she was treated as different from the beginning. Now to Onyx's age gap. Sure, she's basically an adult going to highschool, but that happens in the real world too, albeit rarely. Onyx had basically lived in hiding for her entire life, so the concept of society would be quite alien to her. This is probably what Sunny had in mind to help her with, to help her get used to being around others. Now to the big one, RainWing blood being red. It's true that the RainWing diet would contain very little iron... under normal conditions. The turaco is a bird from Africa, famous for being one of the only animals to have a true green pigment in its body. This is most likely due to them living around the "Copper Belt", a large deposit of copper metal in Central Africa. The plants would take up this copper and store it in their fruits, leading the turacos to consuming a large amount of copper. That may be what's happening with the RainWings. There could probably a large deposit of iron underneath the rainforest, making all the plants there very iron-rich, which could be sufficient to supply the RainWing's haemoglobin. What do you all think? P.S. I see your videos have a new look to them, Moon. And it's awesome!
Also, if the rainwings lacked the hemoglobin for red blood, they would subsequently lack enough iron to support themselves, meaning every rainwing would have anemic osteomalacia and be unable to move.
@Smileorelse Her predictions that came true were more of just guesses or things that were obvious, like how meeting Battlewinner was going to be "scary." I think that's a decent assumption to make. As seen from Whiteout's prophecies, they still needed to be decoded, they weren't just stating the obvious.
@@LunaRealized The only explanation I can really think of is that the energy they absorb from the sun helps give them the energy and life they need rather than the iron in their blood. It's a stretch, but the coincidences between both lacking iron and RainWings not getting enough sun time are oddly similar. It would really be the only thing to make sense if they truly do not obtain enough iron in their diet.
Also, can we talk about how Sky as a tiny dragonet could apparently FIT ON WRENS SHOULDER!?!?? HUHH????? Dragonets would be freaking TINY to adult dragons if that was true??? what the heck?
He could just be a runt as well honestly since he had to share nutrients during development with peril. Usually twins in an egg are smaller but sometimes one is much smaller since the other takes more yolk during development. It would also ‘justify’ why Kestrel wanted to kill Sky to save Peril. Cause Sky was the runt
Nope this is a thing with every baby dragonet, but they grow really fast, you can see this with prince cliff and the other baby dragonets in the series, they are small even to humans, about the size of a cat or small dog, but yes sky is also a little bit smaller than even that so I agree with you in that way.
But in the graphic novel, aka the start of the second arc, or in the prolouge or smthn.. just nvm. When we get to the scene where moons mother is carrying her through the rainforest moon is slighter bigger than her palm. HER PALM. And moon was just hatched like.. a few minutes ago, if my memory is correct,
The scale of newly hatched dragonets is all weird because Bumblebee and a human (I forgot which one) and it says they’re the same size. But Sky and Wren and I’m confused.
Here’s a crazy idea, what if rainwings have chloroplasts in their blood? There is an actual sea snail (nature’s version of Pokémon) that has chloroplasts and can photosynthesize, so it isn’t too much of a stretch. This could make their blood green due to the chloroplasts.
Silkwings would have much larger diet range then rainwings because they would have access to far more vegetarian options like nuts or even tofu. hivewings have been shown to farm and cook and would then supply these foods (which would contain enough iron to support the silkwing’s diet resulting in red blood) I know I’m late
Maybe Fatespeaker and Whiteout were just glitches in the system? Maybe Fatespeaker got a small sliver of moonlight. Moon addresses the Onyx age gap in her own book, noting that the latter was way older. Onyx was there to get information from Sunny; so maybe she just pushed and prodded at the DoD until they finally decided she wasn’t worth fighting and let her in.
@@Kfc_At I’m not sure - that sounds more like mind reading to me. Moonwatcher also noted that Fatespeaker had the same teardrop scales but much smaller.
I’m intrested in languages and Sky knowing dragon was always really weird to me I know young children and babies learn languages quicker than adults but they need to learn by people actually speaking that language Also, if Clearsight brought over Pyrrhian Dragon 2000 years ago, I would’ve expected it to evolve into a separate language or a dialect. It doesn’t mention that at all in the books. I have no idea how Snowfall understands the silkwings/leafwings when they came over. Or Wasp to know whatever is in the Book of Clearsight.
My headcanon is that it’s was a dialect but turned into a full language over time. Like how Vulgar Latin(Latin dialects) spoken in france during the Roman Empire eventually turned into French,
@@Ostralucia ok, hear me out. First off, Pyrrhia spoke Dragon long before Clearsight went to Pantala; it’s only Pantala that needs more time to evolve. So it’s likely that it did evolve on Pyrrhia. And Sky is a SkyWing, and SkyWings live on Pyrrhia, sooooo. Second… look at Bumblebee. She catches on quick, and she’s from Pantala. Sky was with Kestrel for a short amount of time, but maybe because he’s from Pyrrhia, and Pyrrhia has had thousands of years to evolve their language, he learned it much quicker than Bumblebee. That’s my theory, but this is a confusing concept. There are a whole bunch of theories, and we have no idea which is true 😂
@@nightflyer7719 The original Pantalan inhabitants had their own language, but Sunstreak was able to speak a little bit of Clearsight's language. I don't believe we have an explanation on how he could speak it, but my guess is that everything originated in Pyrrhia. For an unknown reason after the Scorching, some of the Pyrrhian dragons decided to fly to Pantala (possibly looking for other land). My guess is that maybe they weren't a fan of having royalty or ruling over the continent, instead choosing to be pacifists, not supporting all the death and destruction that was now plaguing their land. The only explanation for Sunstreak being able to speak a little bit of the old language is because it was passed down from the generations, though it eventually evolved into what we can consider Pantalan. There's a good chance that Clearsight taught her children and the other inhabitants how to speak dragon (or at least her version of it), and over time it faded back into that original language. This would really be the only explanation I can think of as to how the Pantalan dragons and Pyrrhian dragons share the same language, but didn't before.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge that makes sense, considering how we know that Pyrrhian dragons flew over to Pantala not long after the Scorching. It definitely explains how Sunstreak knew some Dragon.
As soon as you mentioned white out- I realized that nightwings have their silver teardrops as the last thing formed. While they are in the egg, it is still unsure if the dragonet will be born on the day they will have powers of some sort. But that would mean the teardrops form RIGHT before the dragonet is hatched! So premature and late dragonets would affect it…but what if the teardrops are already formed and the dragonet is very late? Maybe 1 week late? That would cause a problem
For fatespeaker, I personally think that there may have been an opening in the smog, but VERY little. Still don’t know if this makes sense, but that’s just a theory. A GAME- book? Idk a Wings of fire theory 😅
Yeah, that's probably the most logical and understandable way it could have happened. I can agree with you on that! There was probably just enough moonlight to give her a sliver of powers at just the right time, a total coincidence.
i loved this video! you're starting some good conversations here ^^ and about onyx's age difference, she spent all her time alone (except her mom, but she was on the run and probably didn't spend much time teaching her daughter) in the desert, so she never had time to learn the things they teach! she's a special exception. they aren't teaching _children_, they're teaching the dragons who don't know history, reading/writing, hunting, ect., and since mostly everyone gets taught that before they're an adult, all other students are young dragons.
Yeah, all of these are valid. Fatespeaker is a confusing character, and the books don’t do much to explain it, just vaguely stating she has very weak powers. Which if she was under the moons how?.. and another confusing problem is Seawing blood. Blue or red? Anyway, nice video! I always enjoy it when you upload. And I’m sorry bc I know I already asked, and I’m not trying to rush or pressure you at all, but it would be cool for you to do an analysis on the Hivewings! (Again, I know I already asked) you decide what vids you want to make, I’m just suggesting :3
I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT HOW SKY CAN SPEAK DRAGON! It's something that constantly nags the back of my mind XD. The best explanation I can offer is that dragons evolved to know what sounds means, over trillions of years, and just evolved to be able to understand them? Idkkk! Also for Fatespeaker's bit. Apologies if this gets a bit wordy. While many believe the NightWings lost their powers for thousands of years, maybe not totally. It is possible that some dragons with weak powers, such as Fatespeaker, had hatched over that time, their powers were just never really addressed. Perhaps dragons who were amazing planners got weak senses of visions, but they weren't clear enough and they were just percieved as 'thoughts of what might happen if this happens.' "Mind Readers" could be empaths, such as Fatespeaker, or may be able to pick up bits of information better. While we know that no dragon was said to have powers, it never said other NightWings hadn't hatched with the teardrop scale. And yes, I know Secretkeeper thought it odd to see them, that doesn't mean it's never been seen over the last 2000 years, just perhaps rarely. My other theory, if the one above proves to be insanely incorrect in all directions, is that that NightWing hatchery is in a cave, and Fatespeaker's egg somehow hatched either outside of it, or something happened to open moonlight over her egg. Of course though, the reason her powers are weak is because even if the egg was outside or exposed to the sky, the smog in the air would still smother much of it. Congrats if you read all that XD
You could definitely be right! Perhaps dragons with weaker powers weren't really acknowledged because their abilities weren't all that obvious. It would make sense, too-- the NightWings were constantly told it was impossible to have powers anymore, and that it was all fake. Surely if one of them felt like an empath of some kind, they'd probably think it's just their personality or empathy. I'd bet a lot of the NightWings with powers would be teased or ignored for their weirdness, which would be pretty ironic considering that if they were to have known about it, that dragon would have been worshipped.
Also, why couldn't Moonwatcher understand the thoguhts of Winter's scavenger beyond emotion? Both are sentient beings, and it dosn't make sense that tellepathy would be hindered by language barriers.
@@agsilverradio2225 I think the best explanation is that Tui makes no sense 😂. Moon wouldn’t be able to understand the thoughts of the scavenger (well, unless they’re somehow thinking in Dragon), but she should still be able to hear them thinking. Wren might think some of her thoughts in Dragon, and some of them in Human. I think this cause you can do that in real life.
@@nightflyer7719 Agreed, I think it must be something with language. Perhaps the Scavenger was squeaking, just not as loudly in his head for Moon to really understand?
With the whole Fatespeaker thing, Fatespeaker did not hatch at the volcano. She hatched at the ToP camp and was later moved to the volcano along with the other false DoD. She also has teardrop scales besides her eyes because I believe she does in fact have some sliver of power. As mentioned in Moon Rising, Fatespeaker had hatched partially under the moons (whether she might have been under a tree or whether it was cloudy that night or not, we don’t know). Her visions are indeed false. My guess is that the sliver of power she got gives her false visions and some empathy, rather than true visions and regular mind reading. Anywho, just my thought on it. Great video!
This is more of a continuity issue that I've found, but I still feel like it's worth mentioning once: In The Dark Secret, when Starflight finds the dreamvisiter, we learn that the three of them were created by a SANDWing animus. And then in Moon Rising we're told they were created by Darkstalker, the NIGHTWing animus. My best explination is probably because at the time that Tui was writing The Dark Secret, she hadn't come up with Darkstalker yet. And then when she was starting to figure things out for arc two, and Legends Darkstalker, she changed it. But it still bothers me some.
@@word6344 Yeah, that makes sense, but it still bothers me. And, not to argue with you, but IN A SCROLL in Moon Rising, it says that Darkstalker made the dreamvisitors. If I offended you, I'm sorry.
About Sky speaking Dragon? Well, consider these things: 1) Some animals are born ready to take care of themselves (which I would assume could include communication). 2) Baby Moonwatcher said "Mommy" at the end of the Prologue of Book Six, when she was (at most) a few hours old. And she'd only heard her mother say a few sentences to her. 3) And there's Auklet, who at 6 months old (also in Book Six, Chapter 1) could speak enough to say "me, too! Me, too!" and something about wanting to go to school. With those, I think that shows that Sky could have been able to speak Dragon.
@@chronicwasp I think Moon was at least an hour old, because it said that Secretkeeper stayed with her for a while before she left. But maybe she was more like you said?
I was always so freaked out by the fact that Onyx is older than the dragonets! If Onyx hatched right after Palm ran away with her, older than the WAR ITSELF! A middle aged woman going to a middle school run by people younger than her isn't weird? Not to mention her clawmate, Ostrich, is easily the youngest there, basically 5 in human years. Who organized these???? I was never really weirded out by Fatespeaker's powers. I thought they were just barely there and kind of diluted, and Moon was the first one to have real, full powers. I thought Sky knowing dragon was really strange, considering Kestrel threw him in the river literally hours after he hatched.
About Fatespeakers powers. She wasn't born on the volcano. As it said in the books, she was with the Talons of Peace, not the NightWings. So while she may have been born under the moons, her egg was most probably hidden, considering the talons of peace's nomadic and stealthy lifestyle, hence her weak powers.
Thank you! The Sky thing bothered me for sooo long. Logically speaking, Sky would only be able to speak human and Wren couldn't have learned the dragon language from him
Maybe there had been others who were born with very faint powers like Fatespeaker, but were so unhealthy and suppressed that they might as well have been nonexistant. That, paired with being told there were no powers, would make them just ignore it, mane even considered a danger. I bet Fatespeaker might have been killed as a nuisance any other time. As for chocolate, what if they just dry the beans and eat them? That would give the iron, maybe? But that is a stretch.
i ❤ your channel!! i’m pretty sure that fatespeaker was raised with the talons of peace, so see had a chance of being born under the moons. great channel!!
I think the thing with Fatespeaker is that she claims to have visions, but it could be her saying things to get her friends to listen to her. Her “mind-reading” might be just an ability to know how others are feeling, but not direct thoughts. She mentions how grumpy Morrowseer is, but more importantly she points out how Starflight is feeling sad and misses his friends when she says “sad-face”. Looking over The Dark Secret there are many instances where she mentions the emotions of other dragons.
I read on the internet that morrowseer said that fate speaker was SLIGHTLY born under the moons giving her the ability the see the future but it’s not always gonna be correct so she does kinda have powers and what she said in the vid with the mind reading
I believe the fate speaker thing is because she was raised in a different part of the volcano, which is away from all the other night wings and from the graphic novel it seems to me they had a giant window/entrance in their room so I’m assuming at least SOME moonlight was able to get in
I actually never considered rainwing blood not being red. but what you say makes sense. I think the inly Rainwing who could have had red blood would be Glory cause I think she ate meat before discovering Rainwings ate fruit. Yet whether Glory ate enough depends. But all of those things I have wondered about. it was great seeing them broken down.
This is my question: In The Dark Secret, Fatespeaker talked about how she was a seer, not a mindereader. If she felt emotions from other dragons, I guess I just feel like she should have known that she was not a prophet. It’s like, shouldn’t everybody have known? Don’t the Nightwings have scrolls on that?!
6:04 - 7:28 *My analysis on this part.* What about *Moonwatcher?* She could ( _kind of_ ) speak ( _or roar?_ _Dragons roar_ ) when she hatched. Evidence ( _good enough I guess_ ), Part from book 6 prologue: "...A long pause. And then, barely a whisper: “Mommy?" ... " This *might just show that dragons are hatched with the ability to speak.* Which would mean that Sky, being able to speak Dragon without learning, would make sense. *But* Bumblebee, hatched, and all we see is her *imitating and learning* from the others. Only in the epilogue of book 15 do we see Bumblebee speak proper Dragon. Also Moonwatcher's mother only visited her every in a long time. How could have Moonwatcher learned enough Dragon in that time though? Doesn't make sense. What I think is that Dragons develop the ability over time and with contact with other dragons, it develops faster. I guess. Or probably Tui intentionally gave the Sky the ability to speak dragon so the book would work out. Great vid as usual @Dogloverlikesdoge This one got me thinking *alot* My brain has been melted *and* fried. + I lost like 10 brain cells. oof.Analaysis
I'm pretty sure that Fatespeaker has the "teardrop" scale because she was very close to being born under a full moon. Starflight, although being born under three whole moons, does not have a teardrop scale because he was hidden under a mountain, with no exposure to moonlight. idk just my theory
My theory: she can actually read other dragons minds all those hazy “vision” are because she’s seeing other dragons memories playing over and over again in her head, that’s why she remembers the volcano, despite not being born there. That’s why her vision of being hit by the sky fire was probably her reading somebody else’s mind who thought it would fall on them. She could be the next clearsight except she’s a mind reader version, Clearsite didn’t have any special powers or anything he just took a lot of worrying and studying intricately. She was probably born In a cave with partial light that’s why her ability is so weak.
Another thing for the Rainwing blood, since they can absorb energy from the Sun they have to have some sort of liquid that allows them to do photosynthesis, aka chlorophyll, and chlorophyll is green which means that their blood should be a tad bit greener than other tribes, which means that there is green in the mix of Rainwing blood. I may or may not have gotten something wrong but anyway that’s all I have to say
This isn't really something that doesn't make sense but it's been nagging me for a while, If Arctic had Blue Blood and Foeslayer had red, does that mean Darkstalker and Whiteout have... Purple blood? {Edit} Here's something that doesn't make sense, hybrids. Now before you ask me what I'm talking about let me explain, when you have two different species breed, you can get a offspring that inherits certain... "Traits" these can be dominant or recessive traits, with dominant genetic traits being the oned to most likely appear. However, to get a perfect hybrid as shown through the WOF universe you need to continuously breed the offspring you get, and it take hundreds and even thousands of tries to get that perfect hybrid that shows both traits from both species. And yet after one breeding, you get the perfect hybrid that shows traits clearly from both sides of the family. BUT that's just scientific logic, since this is a fantasy series maybe the rules are different? I don't know.
Ooh, that'd be interesting! It would be pretty cool, although you do inherit most of your genetics from your mom's side, so it would make sense that their blood is red. However, I do think it'd be pretty neat to see dragons with purple blood 👀(With it eventually fading out of the bloodline)
6:35 in Moon Rising, Moonwatcher can speak almost immediately as when SecretKeeper leaves to go back to the volcano, Moon says “Mama?” Not much but still a word
actually.. rainwing blood SHOULD be red; they're vegetarians- unlike dragons liek silkwings - which are naturally herbivores. and even silkwings still have red blood, too people often forget that the rainwings ahve chosen not to eat meat, not that they can't or shouldnt. and it's liekly every now and then they still do eat forms of protien that could give them iron, despite their mostly-vegetarian lifestyle. plus; if they didnt have hemoglobin, that would suck! really bad! for a large animal that does a lot fo physical activity. i dont think they get it from the sun; unless rainwings are actually some weird plants that are phtosynthisizing. it's clear they can, and do soemthimes, eat meat. in the books some are described as eating rainforest animals, so yeah. EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT INSECTS! they probably eat insects too! like a bearded dragon; they get their iron from bugs!
oh and just in acse anyone is reading this, icewings having blue blood makes sense to some extent; irl its found in arthropods that live in colder climates, as hemocyanin (the thing that turns blood blue once exposed to oxygen) contains copper instead of iron, making it worse at transferring oxygen throughout the system - but this isnt a bad thing as colder climates are generally more oxygen rich; espcieally in water.
For fatespeaker, I assumed she was born on the right night but due to the volcano covering the moon, she got got scales but not the power. I'm thinking plenty of other dragonets had the teardrop scales with no power and maybe the nightwings assumed it was just a rare marking or something genetic; and the reason fatespeaker insists she has powers is because she was raised as a prophecy dragnet and assumed nightwings are ment to have powers, so she must have them too.
With Fatespeaker, it is mentioned in the book that she is an 'Empath', which means she can feel/understand/sense another dragon's emotions. Although she could probably feel the doubt coming off of Morrowseer and the other NightWings when she claimed to be a seer, she was too determined to prove it - or she is just totally delusional about her visions, and she may have tricked her mind into seeing things that look like visions, but are totally just her imagination. Basically she can feel emotions and her brain is gaslighting her yay edit: The moons/moon had to be full for a dragon to get their powers. So perhaps it's just sheer bad luck that no NightWings ever hatched on a full moon, especially if the numbers of eggs and surviving dragonets started depleting. Perhaps there were other empaths, or very weak seers, but most - if not all of them died before ever discovering what they had. Maybe Fatespeaker was hatched when a full moon was going down, and the sun was coming up. It was just enough moonlight to give her powers, but very very weak powers. It was just pure luck that she survived dragonethood.
4:57 The age thing: It’s been a very complicated matter. I think I remember commenting about this topic on one of JMA’s videos. So anyway, the age thing has always baffled me. Our (Me and my sis, she introduced me to the siries, thanks a lot sis, would be here without you) first conclusion was that each dragon year is equal to 1.5 humans years. This was due to the fact that if dragons are 7 when a person is 18. Now 7 isn’t a multiple of 18 so we changed it to 2.5, but still, it didn’t feel right. Now on the comment I made on JMA’s video, one of the conclusions he responded with is that there is several different ratios. Basically, the first ratio is 2.57 (I’ve ran it in the calculator just now) and then we’ll I can’t remember. I have five different channels with probably hundreds of comments… I’ll have to find it, but for now, there are different ratios. Now the age thing is also weird because, what is the aged based on. I mean Ik they have a calendar, but. How do they celebrate their birthdays. What I’m saying is, is that, how is their age “related” to human age proportionately? Is their aged base off, mental deve
4:54 so you’re saying that Onyx is the same height as Morrowseer?! Morrowseer is massive his head looks like it brushes the tops of the cavern on the volcano and he dwarfed the other dragons in the cave and his head is about the size of starflight’s horns to his mid-neck
The only partial logic to Sky speaking dragon. Cats that are separated from all other cats are able to make the noise, but they aren’t taught it. Like baby’s can cry and laugh, but they can’t speak. cats can’t ‘talk’ but can communicate in a sense.
I always wondered about Fatespeaker as well! I heard about that interview with Tui, it still didn’t really make sense. I always thought she was hatched outside the volcano, in the shade or something, but I don’t know where I got that from and it doesn’t make sense. There’s just no real plausible explanation for it. Finally, someone brought up the Sky speaking Dragon. This really stuck out for me when Wren asked him what “map” was in dragon. A newborn dragonet wouldn’t know it??? Even if we were generous, and say Kestrel had them for a week, even a month (which is highly, HIGHLY unlikely), he would still only know a few words (mostly names) and *maybe* basic grammar, but being basically fluent? No way. And he couldn’t have picked it up while he was with Wren, since they purposefully avoided dragons as much as possible. This taught me a lot about blood and iron. Maybe they do eat a lot of legumes or nuts, but we just don’t see it? Like, they’re normally eaten as a side or something instead of the main meal, which is fruit for them. I always thought they had a diet similar to many types of rainforest monkeys, which is lots of fruit but also nuts and legumes. Also, maybe they’re bigger than real nuts (haha more inconsistent food sizes).
For the fatespeaker topic, I thought she had the ability to see visions, because I think either the first or second time she appeared/ was introduced, was I think when the fake dragonets where introduced with morrowseer. Fatespeaker claims to have seen the future where the fake dragonets have a different breakfast, a new talon of peace, and more I can’t remember. I remember reading a book or two later and thinking: “Wow she actually predicted all that” and being like: “how? Nightwings don’t have powers?” And its been confusing since.
I know this is a bit dark but the books say the main reason the NightWings moved to the volcano and stopped having moonborn dragonets is because they didn't want another Darkstalker. If there were any dragonets with obvious powers they were probably murdered because the NightWings though the Dragonet might become like Darkstalker.
Speaking of blood and Flames Of Hope- there's a mistake where Tsunami's blood is said to be blue (Part 2, Chapter 18, page 222, first paragraph) "Luna could see blue blood welling up along Tsunami's scales from the cuts"
I’d like to mention the Fatespeaker analysis. She was likely born in a Talons of Peace camp, NOT the mountain. The books say she was born before the actual dragonets, so she was not born on the Brightest Night. (I think the moons having to do with powers is mentioned in Legends: Darkstalker) Since she was born under probably 1 or no full moons, that would explain why her powers were so diluted. IF she was born at the Nightwing kingdom, I’d assume that the Nightwings keep their eggs in a specific hatching room that would not give the eggs the ability to see the moon, while I think it was mentioned that Fatespeaker had already hatched by the time she was taken to the mountain. Most of this is based on my vague recognition of Darkstalker and The Dark Secret, so feel free to correct me in the comments. Completely off topic, but I wish that Starflight would’ve been taken outside while hatching, which would make him a powerful seer and mind reader. I get that there’s no way Kestrel, Webs, and Dune could’ve known that, but still.
1:47 This is a topic I have gone over over, and over again. Ever since I actually thought about Fatspeaker's design. In the book, it says something along the lines of Fatespeaker's egg being exposed to the moons for only a few minutes or so, and then they were blocked out. I'm glad you brought this up because this is something I think no one really thinks about, even though it's really interesting.
Here's a theory I have on Fatespeaker's power: I think her eggs was born on the Volcano but was brought to the Talons of peace of a couple days before she hatched. So her egg didn't turn fully silver in the past day or so in the moonlight, which gave her a very weak power of some sort. Overall, I think her egg didn't turn fully silver, which gave her very weak powers.
About the onyx one, I’m no wof expert or anything so sorry if I mess up. I understand what you’re saying in relation to it being weird that Onyx is super old compared to all the younger students at the school. But it is more likely that the school is more for dragons that lacked education due to the war. it’s probably for dragons that were born during the war, and sense most of the dragons were busy fighting, the younger dragons probably lacked a proper education (assuming so at least). While I’m not sure if onyx was born during the war, it does make sense she should go to a school of this nature, she was roaming the desert with her mom, and probably didn’t have a vary good education, so it makes sense she would go to a school like this. And if that theory is wrong I have another. It could just have been simply that sense Queen thorn choose who went, she probably choose onyx because she knew that the never had a proper education. But anyway that’s just what I think!
Onyx was born before the war when Palm and Prince Smolder had the egg in secret. Oasis eventually found out, causing Palm to have to flee with her daughter. The War of SandWing Succession didn't last 20 years like the prophecy said it would, so I can understand the confusion. The dragonets left the cave before they were "supposed" to. It ended up lasting just a little less than 20 years, meaning Onyx was under the age of one when it began.
the reason is that fatespeaker was born with the talons of peace with after six years the false dragonets were taken to the nightwings after the plot of book two
There is something that I think makes zero sense about the teardrop scales. Even though mind readers only have them, in the official Wings of Fire coloring book ClearSight has them. I don’t know how this makes sense but maybe it’s a similar situation to WhiteOut? For the Sky situation Moon immediately says “mama?” When she was born in the Wings of Fire book six graphic novel. I don’t remember if it’s the same in the actual book but I only remember it happening in the graphic novel.
Somewhere in the books it mentions Kestrel being found by scarlet and her soldiers an entire year after her egg hatched, that is definitely enough time for a dragon to learn how to speak. Moonwatcher manages to speak after being born 40 seconds ago
The book said that they were newly-hatched. It never says that a year passed, just that the eggs hatched and everyone saw how Sky had no fire and Peril had too much of it. Scarlet tried to kick Kestrel out of the breeding program forever and wanted the dragonets dead (per SkyWing tradition). "But Kestrel tried to escape. She took her two dragonets from the *hatching cave* and *tried* to flee with them down the mountain." A quote from Osprey in The Dragonet Prophecy The way dragons learn to speak is pretty inconsistent and confusing, but the most clear we've seen is Moonwatcher whisper faintly "Mommy?" Bumblebee just babbled even though she was around dragons. She was learning the language slowly, which is how we can assume most dragons do. In Moon's case, she probably heard the word in his mother's mind. That doesn't happen with the typical dragonet. Sky understanding how to speak that quickly is quite farfetched. He had been around dragons for not very long, yet was still able to make a joint/combination language of dragon and human with Wren. Even if he did learn things slowly over time by visiting dragon villages and whatnot, it would have taken quite awhile and I'm not sure how others would have reacted to him not knowing a single word at such a old age. Dragons grow and learn very fast.
For everyone wondering how sky could learn to speak dragon, i have a counter question. How does every human on their planet, even from different continents, speak the same language? Especially since humans dont seem to be as wide spread or able to travel between distant groups as easily since giant flying monsters can eat them
Actually, according to Morrowseer Fatespeaker started hatching on the volcano then was later moved to the ToP camp, which would make sense for her to have week mind-reading. And she’s an empath (aka a NightWing who can feel strong emotions) It was also confusing on how in book 15th SeaWing blood is blue, yet in any other book it’s red (and the graphic novels)
If I remember correctly it was when Morrowseer told the dragonets that the prophecy was fake, or Fatespeaker mentioned it in The Dark Sercet, if I’m wrong, which I might be. Fatespeaker was probably hatched on volcano, then moved after she was hatched. Maybe the moons gave her weak mind-reading when she was just a young dragonet
Onyx only went to Jade Mountin to get closer to Sunny because she wanted to steal the throne from Thorn. That's why there's such a large age gap inbetween her and the other students.
I’m so misguided by sky….on book 15 he looks like peril but a lil bit lighter…but before book 15 he was a light orange and he was described with light orange scales.
the last theory makes perfect sense. Rainwings do have a lot of different fruits in the rain forest though, and some probably don't exist in our world like dragon flame cactus doesn't? Idk maybe that could give them iron?
Fatespeakers makes sense to me- she could tell that orchid was thirsty. I can’t tell if it’s common sense or her reading emotions, I do BELIVE she could.
In the guide book, moon describes teardrop scales as “Mind Readers” such as fatespeaker, btw. OH, and btw, FateSpeaker might have hatched under a full moon if she hatched on one of the forests on the edge of the volcano
I think maybe the moon appears slightly through the clouds and ash that were in the air in the Volcano, and maybe Fatespeaker was hatched magically under the brief moonlight. That's all I have to say for Fatespeaker potentially having powers lol
I feel like Rainwings having red blood makes plenty of sense. For one, there are actually some fruits and seeds that could be in the rainforest which have iron in them. Such as bananas, figs, Avocados, apricots maybe Raspberries and blackberries. For another there is some dialog that outright says they are not 'strictly' vegetarian and dialog that suggests they have tried eating some of the frogs so they probably eat a lot of different things as long as its easy to catch and not too adorable to eat XD
Sky problobly wandered into a dragon village and overheard dragons talking or was taught a little bit before going back to wren. Then he probably spied on dragons and taught it to the humans and the humans learned to know what they were talking about and taught themselves the rest. GIVE US AWNSERS TUI!!!
i think there was a point where the fog slightly showed a moon the day fatespeaker hatched. so thats why it caused her powers to be weak. so like she was supposed to be a mind reader.
Ok Fatespeaker was born under the moon LIGHT Darkstalker said, ok people? The moon light touched her egg, but to clarify her powers are SUPER DUPER NUPER WEAK
Fatespeaker: She was almost hatched on a moon, and she has smaller teardrop scales since she DOES have a NightWing power, although it's very weak. Moonwatcher is able to feel other dragons (and scavengers) emotions, especially when you touch them, but she can also read their thoughts. That's the same with Fatespeaker, too. But as hers is much weaker she can only read their emotions... She's an empath!
Maybe Jade Mountain excepted Onyx because she had no where else to go. When Quibli and Moon were investigating her, she said that her mother died and now had no home
Fate speaker was born in the Talons Of Peace camp, so her egg has seen one moon. So she came out to have a very weak power of seeing the future, but in one of the books DarkStalker explained that only mind readers have silver scales. Maybe she can read mind’s faintly that she dose not notice it. Just a theory you can talk about in another video…
On top of Sky being able to speak dragon, i'd want ot add that it makes even less sense for Freedom or Cottonmouth to speak or understand it. Book 15 explains that the reason why both are able to talk to Dusky and Luna is bc Cottonmouth can speak dragon thx to Freedom, the same way she can speak human thx to Cottonmouth. But this doesn't make sense- Freedom was stolen from her parents as an egg, and only hatched when she was brought to Pantala. Which means that she never had any contact with dragons after her hatching. On top of that, she could only have been a few weeks old when she died. And I doubt Cottonmouth was able to learn dragon before he died either. We also know that neither of them has had proper contact with dragons until Wasp got possessed. My only guess is that they somehow learned dragon thx to Wasp, but even that doesn't make much sense, as Wasp first would have needed to give them permission to see her memories before they'd get connected enough to learn that kind of stuff. And how could she give them permission if they wouldn't be able to speak dragon? So the book implies Freedom and Cottonmouth were able to learn and speak dragon before meeting Wasp, despite neither of them having learned it during their lives, and also neither of them having seen or proprly contacted a dragon prior to Wasp. Who, might I add, is rather aggressive, and would prolly not have attempted to listen to a human and baby dragon if they did not know her language, especially not if the baby dragon kind of looked like a Silk-Leaf hybrid-
I think ot was explained in book 15 that it was the power of the tellepathic link via the Othermind that broke the language barrier; ... but that begs the question why Moon couldn't read the exact thoguhts of Winter's pet scavenger in book 6?
For the Rainwing blood-color, personally I hc that Rainwings developed an adaptation where they have internal sources of chloroplasts that then produces chlorophyll when they have their suntime. Much like the Leaf Slugs.
Enfaîte ces choses là ont du sens Fatespeaker : Elle est née avec les serres de la paix donc pas sur l'île volcanique elle a donc pu naître à l'air libre. (Aussi il me semble bizzare que Tui est comfirmé que elle ne soit pas voyante car il me semble que elle a au contraire dit que elle l'était) Onyx : Enfaîte certes c'est étrange mais pas impossible. Dans certains pays des adultes vont à l'école primaire ou au collège car ils n'ont pas eu l'éducation nécessaire. Peut-être que Onyx ne sait pas des connaissances essentielles et est venu les étudier. Sky : Je suis d'accord avec toi Rainwinng Blood : Enfaîte si il le peut. Ils pourraient très bien tirer le lait nécessaire au chocolat dans les paresseux. Cela peut sembler incongrue mais à votre avis qu'est-ce qui aurait poussé à l'origine les ailes de pluies à les élever ? Pour leur lait ! Ils auraient commencé à traire le paresseux et je pense qu'ils auraient récolté le sucre à base de canne à sucre ou de béterave. J'imagine bien un rainwing découvrir une canne à sucre qu'il n'a jamais vu essayer de la manger et découvrir le sucre que elle contient. Commencant ainsi à les élever ils aurait fait le chocolat
My main theory about Fatespeaker is that she’s Greatness’s daughter. I have a reasonable explanation for this. There is a special spot where all royal dragonets hatch that has a sliver of moonlight, enough for a dragonet to get weak powers. Of course, only a few like that have hatched. Greatness, being as ditzy as she is, didn’t want to keep her egg but knew she should at least hatch it under a few moons for the Talons of Peace. Of course, for this to be true, they probably would’ve hatched Starflight under this as well. Just a dumb theory.
If her powers are hidden doesn’t that mean she can awaken them or make them more powerful? Why I say this is because in the first book when clay finds out that he has fire proof scales, yes , clay had the ability because of his egg being the colour of dragon blood but as we learned that power was only in small scale under the mountain . It wasn’t until clay found some mud did his powers really become powers. And moon from moon rising had a similar thing. She was born out of the night wing kingdom but in stead the rain forest, sure she was born under the bright three moons better that fate speaker but from seeing pictures from the graphic novel version is shows her egg was hatched in a thick bush with probably lots of trees covering up too. It was only after she was in clear space for long enough did her powers start to work. If we follow these same rules with fate speaker, doesn’t that mean that she’s still able to fully get her powers? I mean even though she’s gone outside after book 5 and countinue to for the rest of the series doesn’t mean she has no hope, after all moon grew up most of her life out of the night wing kingdom.
7:03 first off of bumblebee is basically a newborn(it’s barely been a year since she was born) and the sky was about the size of a cliff(which is me guesstimating) so he couldn’t have been that young. Maybe he couldn’t talk, but he did have a slight grasp. Combine that with probably hearing bits and pieces from dragons while traveling with wren you could probably speak a small amount of dragon You have to remember there were words both of them did not know.
I don't think Fatespeaker was born on the volcano, but I haven't read the first arc in forever; and I think she might have some kind of very weak seer powers, because remember she thought the comet was going to fall on them? In the graphic novel we only see a large fireball falling from the sky when Peril swoops down to save Clay because she was going so fast, so I think that's what she saw, if she saw anything
I don't think rainwing blood being a different color holds much truth. As stated, hemoglobin (more specifically, heme) is paramount in characteristic red blood; however, the foods you mentioned lacking iron don't cover the full rainwing dietary palate. For instance, strawberries, apples, bananas, & pomegranates all contain sufficient amounts of heme to constitute at least semi-red blood. These are all fruits mentioned by rainwings in books 3/6. For the rainwings to have non-red blood, they would need to avoid eating all of those fruits in excess; however, we see in books 3/6 that the rainwings have no issue laying around eating fruit all day, and they would naturally have to be eating a fair amount of these fruits given the selection size. As I stated, eating these fruits will produce enough heme for AT LEAST semi-red blood. We also have to consider that the rainwings devote several hours a day to sitting in the sun, which optimizes the body's nutrient intake, therefore passively increasing ferric (iron) intake. Further evidence for the rainwings having red blood is that none are anemic or sideropenic, both disorders caused by low iron intake/decreased hemoglobin (and are common for vegetarians). This is proven in book seven when kinkajou is attacked by chameleon. Had she been anemic (low hemoglobin or iron), she would've folded like a lawnchair after being hit, since there wouldn't have been enough iron to support her bones (assuming she ate like the other rainwings, therefore having too little hemoglobin for red blood, causing anemia). In fact, for your theory (rainwings don't have enough hemoglobin for red blood) to work, none of the rainwings would be able to fly since there wouldn't be enough iron or heme in their blood to support their bodies. They would all have osteomalacia from a lifetime of eating low-Ferrum foods! The only scientific way that rainwings could have non-red blood is if they were biliverdic. Biliverdin is caused by erythrocytes (red blood cells) breaking down hemoglobin inside them, causing jaundice (green/black blood), which kills if left untreated. Despite this, there's a species of biliverdic lizard that exists naturally. However, if the rainwings were like these lizards, their entire look would be different, and their blood would be poisonous & green. With that, I digress; if you care enough, feel free to check my facts, I just quoted some stuff from my anatomy/bio 102 notes, so I could be dead wrong.
What i first thought when i read dragonslayer is how is Sky still alive? It was said Kestrel snapped his neck. Also how would Kestrel have time to look for Sky if she went straight to the Talons Of Peace and basically didnt l until the dods where born. Someone explain this to me. As well i also support the theory that Sky has fire resistant scales along with flamesilks. As flamesilk is basically the same heat of fire.
I think it said somewhere in the books fatespeaker was brought to the TOP as an egg from the volcano island but hatched with the TOP so maybe the egg was unhealthy but she hatched under the moons so the power was damaged?
1:56 Darkstalker says she has weak powers, and I think he may be right, although it confuses me. The teardrop scales by her eyes are a hint to her mind-reading powers, but it is mentioned in Moon Rising that they’re not as bright as Moon’s. I think this shows she somehow has the power to at least sense the feelings of other dragons. It makes no sense, considering she was born on the volcano (read The Dark Secret if you don’t believe me), and you can’t see the moon there. But some of her visions also came true, and they were very weak as well. I suspect that Fatespeaker was born on a night with two full moons, and she was outside the fortress when she hatched. There may have been some very faint moonlight filtering through to the island, and that’s how she got her weak powers. But that’s just a theory, so I can’t be sure, but that’s what I personally think. 2:46 maybe Tui said she isn’t a seer, but can that explain how a few (very few) of her “visions” came true? I’m not sure, this makes no sense, tbh. Darkstalker also said that she isn’t a seer, but still… 7:04 ok, even though Kestrel didn’t keep them hidden for long, it’s very possible that she spoke to them, and when Scarlet found them, she spoke Dragon. It’s a very confusing concept, but like you said, they seem to learn through imitation. Sky must’ve imitated Kestrel. I know he shouldn’t have been able to speak Dragon that well, but still. Also, it’s said that Wren seemed to speak Dragon better than Sky himself, so I don’t know what’s up with that. I hope you get the gist of what I’m trying to say 😂😅 I think I made a very long argument about these things 😂😅😅. I agree that those things made zero sense tho. I’ve always wondered EXACTLY how Fatespeaker got her powers, and how EXACTLY Sky can speak Dragon so well, considering he got thrown in the river not long after he hatched. Sorry this comment was so long, and have a good day!😅😅
Good observation about the teardrop scales description! However, regarding Fatespeaker's "visions," her predictions that came true were more of just guesses or things that were obvious, like how meeting Battlewinner was going to be "scary." I think that's a decent assumption to make. As seen from Whiteout's prophecies, they still needed to be decoded, they weren't just stating the obvious. Plus, most of what she said never happened, or even seemed like a possibility of something that *could* happen. Normally I would be able to consider the possibility of very very weak mindreading (especially because sometimes she got half of the truth), but Tui saying she isn't a seer really makes me believe it.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge yeah, I know that Tui said that she’s not a seer… and I know that her “visions” were guesses, but I still feel like she might have the teeniest bit of future seeing. This is because, sure, it may have been a guess when she thought that Starflight was part of her destiny… but she just felt so sure, especially when you’re seeing it from her perspective. That’s probably the only thing that makes me even think she has some sort of future seeing power, but other than that, Tui is right. And I personally have no idea how I even remembered the teardrop scale description, especially since I haven’t read Moon Rising in a while. And thanks.
I guess you don't remember BUT in book 10 we learn onyx was gonna take the throne from thorn, but quibli's grandpa told her to go to jade mountain so no one new what she was planning to do
Fatespeaker was NOT hatched on the volcano she was hatched in the talons of peace camp and darkstalker’s theary is that she ALMOST hatched under 1 full moon
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I think the government placed me on watch after seeing all my sus Google searches about blood while I was making this video 😭/j
Question of the day: What are some foods you think it should be illegal to eat with a fork?
My answer: Soup, cheeseburgers, pizza, and sandwiches.
Also, I have a confession to make.
I eat my fries with a fork.
Sue me.
cereal
Pizza
I _will_ sue you.
Hey I dip my fries in my milkshake, eating fries with a fork ain't a crime.
I barely even use forks, I eat most of my food with my hands. Though I have eaten pizza with a fork. A few times. Because my dad insisted. I have also eaten soup with a fork, accidentally, because of chicken in the soup and I accidentally ate quite a bit of my soup with a fork. But… eating rice with a fork… seems wrong. Though maybe that is because I eat rice a lot and mostly use my hands. But rice. (Edit: This was much longer then intended, I’m sorry)
Fatespeaker was born with the talons of peace not on the volcano and was probably born under the same situation as whiteout, it’s always made perfect sense to me
TRUE, i think
As far as I know, it wasn't confirmed that Fatespeaker was born in the Talons of Peace (though correct me if I'm wrong). In fact, it would seem more likely that she was born on the volcano initially, but was eventually raised with the Talons of Peace.
It was only said that they were raised to believe they were the dragonets of destiny. It never specified exactly where they hatched, and seeing as the plan to create the false dragonets was suggested later, it's more likely they were taken in at a young age. After all, why would they think to find doubles when the originals hadn't even hatched yet?
@@Dogloverlikesdoge in The Dark Secret, Fatespeaker mentions how she had some distant memories of being on the volcano. So I think she was born on the volcano, but moved to the Talons shortly after she hatched, if I remember correctly.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge yeah it is kinda strange i’ve never really thought about it before cause the only way fatespeakers powers could work was if she was born with the talons of peace so i just kinda assumed that’s what happened and didn’t think much of it
@@nightflyer7719 OH YEAH you’re right! But something weird is darkstalker had faint memories in his egg right before he hatched could be something like that maybe? It’s the only way it could really work (speaking from a headcanon perspective not a writing one cause i am pretty sure just tui just messed up)
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Possible theory for why Sky can speak dragon:
You mentioned that dragons aren't born with the ability to speak dragon, but I think it's actually more of a difference in how Bumblebee and Sky were raised before hatching.
We know that the Hivewings put their eggs in a quiet hatching place, where no one really talks, and that's where Bumblebee came from.
However, I think that maybe the Skywing's eggs are perhaps kept in a place that's less isolated and quiet than the Hivewing hatchery, and they could hear words through the eggshell.
So perhaps that's how Sky can speak dragon?
I know it still doesn't make a lot of sense, but maybe Sky also learned from observing other dragons' speech and putting together what he knew with what he learned from that.
This theory definitely doesn't make that much sense, and I think it's kindof me just grasping at straws-
But that's what theories are for, right? /rh
(also if I get facts wrongs, I haven't read Draghonslayer in like two years, oops)
I do like your idea of them being able to hear through the shells! Especially if they can hear as soon as their layed. Perhaps mother dragons talk to their eggs and try to teach them before they enter the world even, at least for SkyWings? Great theory!
Thats actually a really good theory! if a human baby can hear people talking outside of the womb, why cant a hatchling hear woirds from inside the egg!
It's proven dragons could hear through there shells as darkstalker heard his parents arguing before he was born!
@@Imnellyyyy You're right, I'd completely forgotten about that!
I’m very confused isn’t sky a dragon?
Hey for your point about RainWing blood, I study ecology, so here are some points that prove their blood could totally be red!
There are tons of frugivore species (animals which eat mainly fruit as their diet, like RainWings), all of which have red blood! This includes bats, lots of bird species, and even some species of apes and canines. Also, there are human diets which primarily consist of eating fresh fruits and vegetables, in some extreme cases NOTHING else, and these people still have red blood. So why is that?
All of these species still survive without consuming animal products because all plants contain a small amount of iron. As you said, nothing can survive without iron, meaning plants, too, can't survive without it either. Otherwise, all of the species in the rainforests that don't consume anything but fruit or leaves wouldn't survive. Herbivores and frugivores usually have to eat a lot more than omnivores or carnivores, though, in order to get the amount of iron (and other nutrients) that they need. Large species like cows have to consume literal TONS of grass or feed per day in order to survive. Since the RainWings are larger than cows, they'd probably be okay consuming fruit for the most part... they'd just need a lot of it. But I do agree that they should've been shown eating more nuts as most frugivores do consume nuts on a daily basis as well which definitely brings the number of things they need to eat per day down.
I definitely learned a lot from that! Thank you
Herbivores and frugivores sometimes eat meat when low on protein
Hey um I have a question so in the rain wing graphic novel book I didn't get the thing about how they spit on a leaf and they realize they're related, and i also didn't get how they cured the little dragon who got spit with venom by another rain wing by adding more venom
7:29 - 11:10 Welcome to science on the Dogloverlikesdoge channel. XD
I think it also depends on the size of the animal and the amount of iron the animal needs.
My explanation for the first one: (Feel free to pokes holes in it)
Fatespeaker is delusional, it's totally because she was told she was a prophecy dragonet, and I think other dragonets did get the empath powers like Fatespeaker's, but they didn't mention it, because they didn't want to be seen as a wierdo, and probably used it to manipulate other dragons.
First hole: The other dragons aren't mentioned to have the signature tear-drop scales, but otherwise good theory:)
@@anightwingcloakedinshadow5448 Dang, you're right! Thats true.
I’d like to point out that Nightwings are canon to be the only tribe with non-Animus powers. I’m like 90% sure of that.
@@moniquegerken182 Foresight and Mindreading are not biological powers, if you're talking about those.
@@moniquegerken182 I'm not quite sure what you define as powers, because Icewings have fatal frostbreath, and extremely sharp claws/tail, Mudwings can hold their breath for extended periods of time, can be immune to fire. Not to mention Sandwings' venomous tails, Seawings being able to live underwater, while being fast swimmers, and Glory gas Magical Death Spit. (Wait i hear an enraged dragon coming for me and yelling "It's NOT Magical Death Spit!!!")
Sky learning to speak dragon has always boggled me! But I would have never thought of RainWing blood not being red! I like how you broke it down in a scientific way, I learned so much about blood that I didn't even know about! Awesome video!!
I'm glad you were able to learn something! :D
Skywings might have different instincts than most dragons, after all, they learn how to fly at a early age, and mudwings are born with the instinct to help their siblings hatch, just like most reptiles. It might just be an adaptation of sorts.
I just remembered something else that doesn’t make sense: Darkstalker’s bracelet. It was made for him when he was a dragonet/young adult, and yet stayed on until he was the size he is now. The only thing that broke it was the earthquake, even though it *should* have broken much sooner since Darkstalker’s wrist was ginormous.
Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about that -- you're totally right! I doubt Fathom also added that the bracelet would change in size as he grew, because they probably never accounted for that.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Yeah. They also never describe it afterwards, at least in size, and it seems unlikely Fathom would think about how giant Darkstalker could grow.
Extremely late but I’m pretty sure that fathom enchanted it to be invincible, which also accounts for somehow staying on Darkstalker as he grew. Or maybe Darkstalker was still the same size as the day he was put to sleep, but as he awoke he grew. AND HOW DID DARKSTALKER WAKE UP??
@@kitcatmunchkinWe never heard the exact enchantment Fathom put on it, since he enchanted it by thinking, so I guess it's possible that he enchanted it to grow with Darkstalker. Darkstalker was explicitly stated to have just been growing the whole time, because dragons always get bigger as they grow. It wouldn't make sense for him to just suddenly grow. And he woke up because the asteroid that flew by and caused the false brightest night created a lot of earthquakes, one of which broke Darkstalker's bracelet.
Truly interesting! There are a few things here I never realised and kinda brushed off (guilty). But there is some logic to a few of them.
For Fatespeaker having powers, it is strange to think that no one else before her had ever gotten powers of any sort. But there's one key difference between her and others; she was chosen as a "back-up" dragonet of destiny. That could mean Fatespeaker's egg was moved to a different location from any hatchery the NightWings had. So it could be that only she had gotten her weak mind-reading because she was treated as different from the beginning.
Now to Onyx's age gap. Sure, she's basically an adult going to highschool, but that happens in the real world too, albeit rarely. Onyx had basically lived in hiding for her entire life, so the concept of society would be quite alien to her. This is probably what Sunny had in mind to help her with, to help her get used to being around others.
Now to the big one, RainWing blood being red. It's true that the RainWing diet would contain very little iron... under normal conditions. The turaco is a bird from Africa, famous for being one of the only animals to have a true green pigment in its body. This is most likely due to them living around the "Copper Belt", a large deposit of copper metal in Central Africa. The plants would take up this copper and store it in their fruits, leading the turacos to consuming a large amount of copper. That may be what's happening with the RainWings. There could probably a large deposit of iron underneath the rainforest, making all the plants there very iron-rich, which could be sufficient to supply the RainWing's haemoglobin.
What do you all think?
P.S. I see your videos have a new look to them, Moon. And it's awesome!
@Smileorelse Could you elaborate on that last part?
Also, if the rainwings lacked the hemoglobin for red blood, they would subsequently lack enough iron to support themselves, meaning every rainwing would have anemic osteomalacia and be unable to move.
@@LunaRealized Oof. Looks like someone failed Biology class *cough cough* Tui *cough cough*
@Smileorelse Her predictions that came true were more of just guesses or things that were obvious, like how meeting Battlewinner was going to be "scary."
I think that's a decent assumption to make. As seen from Whiteout's prophecies, they still needed to be decoded, they weren't just stating the obvious.
@@LunaRealized The only explanation I can really think of is that the energy they absorb from the sun helps give them the energy and life they need rather than the iron in their blood. It's a stretch, but the coincidences between both lacking iron and RainWings not getting enough sun time are oddly similar. It would really be the only thing to make sense if they truly do not obtain enough iron in their diet.
Also, can we talk about how Sky as a tiny dragonet could apparently FIT ON WRENS SHOULDER!?!?? HUHH????? Dragonets would be freaking TINY to adult dragons if that was true??? what the heck?
He could just be a runt as well honestly since he had to share nutrients during development with peril. Usually twins in an egg are smaller but sometimes one is much smaller since the other takes more yolk during development. It would also ‘justify’ why Kestrel wanted to kill Sky to save Peril. Cause Sky was the runt
Nope this is a thing with every baby dragonet, but they grow really fast, you can see this with prince cliff and the other baby dragonets in the series, they are small even to humans, about the size of a cat or small dog, but yes sky is also a little bit smaller than even that so I agree with you in that way.
But in the graphic novel, aka the start of the second arc, or in the prolouge or smthn.. just nvm. When we get to the scene where moons mother is carrying her through the rainforest moon is slighter bigger than her palm. HER PALM. And moon was just hatched like.. a few minutes ago, if my memory is correct,
Daffodil also was tossing bumblebee in the air in book 14
The scale of newly hatched dragonets is all weird because Bumblebee and a human (I forgot which one) and it says they’re the same size. But Sky and Wren and I’m confused.
Here’s a crazy idea, what if rainwings have chloroplasts in their blood? There is an actual sea snail (nature’s version of Pokémon) that has chloroplasts and can photosynthesize, so it isn’t too much of a stretch. This could make their blood green due to the chloroplasts.
Whoa, that's super interesting! I hadn't even considered that, but it's totally a possibility. It would make a lot of sense, too.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge But what about Silkwings? Their diet is very similar to Rainwings, but they don't lay in the sun.
Silkwings would have much larger diet range then rainwings because they would have access to far more vegetarian options like nuts or even tofu. hivewings have been shown to farm and cook and would then supply these foods (which would contain enough iron to support the silkwing’s diet resulting in red blood)
I know I’m late
Maybe Fatespeaker and Whiteout were just glitches in the system? Maybe Fatespeaker got a small sliver of moonlight.
Moon addresses the Onyx age gap in her own book, noting that the latter was way older. Onyx was there to get information from Sunny; so maybe she just pushed and prodded at the DoD until they finally decided she wasn’t worth fighting and let her in.
That could have definitely been the case-- after all, it would look bad if they denied someone access into the school that's meant for second chances.
I agree maybe fatespeaker is just a weak seer to the point she can only feel emotions
@@Kfc_At I’m not sure - that sounds more like mind reading to me. Moonwatcher also noted that Fatespeaker had the same teardrop scales but much smaller.
@@lightofthefandoms6496 yea tbh idk but it just sounds like a logical explanation
In the epilogue of the dark secret fatespeaker saw a vision of starflight and how would that happen if she wasn’t a seer?
I’m intrested in languages and Sky knowing dragon was always really weird to me
I know young children and babies learn languages quicker than adults but they need to learn by people actually speaking that language
Also, if Clearsight brought over Pyrrhian Dragon 2000 years ago, I would’ve expected it to evolve into a separate language or a dialect. It doesn’t mention that at all in the books. I have no idea how Snowfall understands the silkwings/leafwings when they came over. Or Wasp to know whatever is in the Book of Clearsight.
My headcanon is that it’s was a dialect but turned into a full language over time. Like how Vulgar Latin(Latin dialects) spoken in france during the Roman Empire eventually turned into French,
@@Ostralucia ok, hear me out. First off, Pyrrhia spoke Dragon long before Clearsight went to Pantala; it’s only Pantala that needs more time to evolve. So it’s likely that it did evolve on Pyrrhia. And Sky is a SkyWing, and SkyWings live on Pyrrhia, sooooo. Second… look at Bumblebee. She catches on quick, and she’s from Pantala. Sky was with Kestrel for a short amount of time, but maybe because he’s from Pyrrhia, and Pyrrhia has had thousands of years to evolve their language, he learned it much quicker than Bumblebee. That’s my theory, but this is a confusing concept. There are a whole bunch of theories, and we have no idea which is true 😂
@@nightflyer7719 The original Pantalan inhabitants had their own language, but Sunstreak was able to speak a little bit of Clearsight's language. I don't believe we have an explanation on how he could speak it, but my guess is that everything originated in Pyrrhia. For an unknown reason after the Scorching, some of the Pyrrhian dragons decided to fly to Pantala (possibly looking for other land). My guess is that maybe they weren't a fan of having royalty or ruling over the continent, instead choosing to be pacifists, not supporting all the death and destruction that was now plaguing their land.
The only explanation for Sunstreak being able to speak a little bit of the old language is because it was passed down from the generations, though it eventually evolved into what we can consider Pantalan. There's a good chance that Clearsight taught her children and the other inhabitants how to speak dragon (or at least her version of it), and over time it faded back into that original language.
This would really be the only explanation I can think of as to how the Pantalan dragons and Pyrrhian dragons share the same language, but didn't before.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge that makes sense, considering how we know that Pyrrhian dragons flew over to Pantala not long after the Scorching. It definitely explains how Sunstreak knew some Dragon.
@@nightflyer7719 so like Pyrrhian dragon is easier to learn?
As soon as you mentioned white out- I realized that nightwings have their silver teardrops as the last thing formed. While they are in the egg, it is still unsure if the dragonet will be born on the day they will have powers of some sort. But that would mean the teardrops form RIGHT before the dragonet is hatched! So premature and late dragonets would affect it…but what if the teardrops are already formed and the dragonet is very late? Maybe 1 week late? That would cause a problem
For fatespeaker, I personally think that there may have been an opening in the smog, but VERY little. Still don’t know if this makes sense, but that’s just a theory. A GAME- book? Idk a Wings of fire theory 😅
Yeah, that's probably the most logical and understandable way it could have happened. I can agree with you on that! There was probably just enough moonlight to give her a sliver of powers at just the right time, a total coincidence.
i loved this video! you're starting some good conversations here ^^
and about onyx's age difference, she spent all her time alone (except her mom, but she was on the run and probably didn't spend much time teaching her daughter) in the desert, so she never had time to learn the things they teach! she's a special exception.
they aren't teaching _children_, they're teaching the dragons who don't know history, reading/writing, hunting, ect., and since mostly everyone gets taught that before they're an adult, all other students are young dragons.
You raised some very good points! :D
Yeah, all of these are valid. Fatespeaker is a confusing character, and the books don’t do much to explain it, just vaguely stating she has very weak powers. Which if she was under the moons how?.. and another confusing problem is Seawing blood. Blue or red?
Anyway, nice video! I always enjoy it when you upload.
And I’m sorry bc I know I already asked, and I’m not trying to rush or pressure you at all, but it would be cool for you to do an analysis on the Hivewings! (Again, I know I already asked) you decide what vids you want to make, I’m just suggesting :3
I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT HOW SKY CAN SPEAK DRAGON! It's something that constantly nags the back of my mind XD. The best explanation I can offer is that dragons evolved to know what sounds means, over trillions of years, and just evolved to be able to understand them? Idkkk!
Also for Fatespeaker's bit. Apologies if this gets a bit wordy.
While many believe the NightWings lost their powers for thousands of years, maybe not totally. It is possible that some dragons with weak powers, such as Fatespeaker, had hatched over that time, their powers were just never really addressed. Perhaps dragons who were amazing planners got weak senses of visions, but they weren't clear enough and they were just percieved as 'thoughts of what might happen if this happens.' "Mind Readers" could be empaths, such as Fatespeaker, or may be able to pick up bits of information better. While we know that no dragon was said to have powers, it never said other NightWings hadn't hatched with the teardrop scale. And yes, I know Secretkeeper thought it odd to see them, that doesn't mean it's never been seen over the last 2000 years, just perhaps rarely.
My other theory, if the one above proves to be insanely incorrect in all directions, is that that NightWing hatchery is in a cave, and Fatespeaker's egg somehow hatched either outside of it, or something happened to open moonlight over her egg. Of course though, the reason her powers are weak is because even if the egg was outside or exposed to the sky, the smog in the air would still smother much of it.
Congrats if you read all that XD
You could definitely be right! Perhaps dragons with weaker powers weren't really acknowledged because their abilities weren't all that obvious. It would make sense, too-- the NightWings were constantly told it was impossible to have powers anymore, and that it was all fake. Surely if one of them felt like an empath of some kind, they'd probably think it's just their personality or empathy. I'd bet a lot of the NightWings with powers would be teased or ignored for their weirdness, which would be pretty ironic considering that if they were to have known about it, that dragon would have been worshipped.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge I agree. Tui makes no sense when it comes to this stuff lol 😂
Also, why couldn't Moonwatcher understand the thoguhts of Winter's scavenger beyond emotion? Both are sentient beings, and it dosn't make sense that tellepathy would be hindered by language barriers.
@@agsilverradio2225 I think the best explanation is that Tui makes no sense 😂. Moon wouldn’t be able to understand the thoughts of the scavenger (well, unless they’re somehow thinking in Dragon), but she should still be able to hear them thinking. Wren might think some of her thoughts in Dragon, and some of them in Human. I think this cause you can do that in real life.
@@nightflyer7719 Agreed, I think it must be something with language. Perhaps the Scavenger was squeaking, just not as loudly in his head for Moon to really understand?
With the whole Fatespeaker thing, Fatespeaker did not hatch at the volcano. She hatched at the ToP camp and was later moved to the volcano along with the other false DoD. She also has teardrop scales besides her eyes because I believe she does in fact have some sliver of power. As mentioned in Moon Rising, Fatespeaker had hatched partially under the moons (whether she might have been under a tree or whether it was cloudy that night or not, we don’t know). Her visions are indeed false. My guess is that the sliver of power she got gives her false visions and some empathy, rather than true visions and regular mind reading. Anywho, just my thought on it. Great video!
Yeah, she is an Empath
Fatespeaker is proven to be an empath. She was gaslighted into thinking she had other powers too by the talons and the nightwings
This is more of a continuity issue that I've found, but I still feel like it's worth mentioning once:
In The Dark Secret, when Starflight finds the dreamvisiter, we learn that the three of them were created by a SANDWing animus. And then in Moon Rising we're told they were created by Darkstalker, the NIGHTWing animus.
My best explination is probably because at the time that Tui was writing The Dark Secret, she hadn't come up with Darkstalker yet. And then when she was starting to figure things out for arc two, and Legends Darkstalker, she changed it.
But it still bothers me some.
My headcanon for that is just details being lost to history, especially because this is 2000 years in the past
@@word6344 Yeah, that makes sense, but it still bothers me. And, not to argue with you, but IN A SCROLL in Moon Rising, it says that Darkstalker made the dreamvisitors. If I offended you, I'm sorry.
@@josephrowlee nah it's fine
About Sky speaking Dragon?
Well, consider these things:
1) Some animals are born ready to take care of themselves (which I would assume could include communication).
2) Baby Moonwatcher said "Mommy" at the end of the Prologue of Book Six, when she was (at most) a few hours old. And she'd only heard her mother say a few sentences to her.
3) And there's Auklet, who at 6 months old (also in Book Six, Chapter 1) could speak enough to say "me, too! Me, too!" and something about wanting to go to school.
With those, I think that shows that Sky could have been able to speak Dragon.
I'm pretty sure Moonwatcher wasn't even a minute old.
@@chronicwasp I think Moon was at least an hour old, because it said that Secretkeeper stayed with her for a while before she left.
But maybe she was more like you said?
I was always so freaked out by the fact that Onyx is older than the dragonets! If Onyx hatched right after Palm ran away with her, older than the WAR ITSELF! A middle aged woman going to a middle school run by people younger than her isn't weird? Not to mention her clawmate, Ostrich, is easily the youngest there, basically 5 in human years. Who organized these???? I was never really weirded out by Fatespeaker's powers. I thought they were just barely there and kind of diluted, and Moon was the first one to have real, full powers. I thought Sky knowing dragon was really strange, considering Kestrel threw him in the river literally hours after he hatched.
I thought ostrich was like 10/9 in human ages
@@lindseymilliken2346 Maybe we interpreted her differently? She could be 10/9 in human years but I thought she was around 5 based on her behavior.
About Fatespeakers powers. She wasn't born on the volcano. As it said in the books, she was with the Talons of Peace, not the NightWings. So while she may have been born under the moons, her egg was most probably hidden, considering the talons of peace's nomadic and stealthy lifestyle, hence her weak powers.
Thank you! The Sky thing bothered me for sooo long. Logically speaking, Sky would only be able to speak human and Wren couldn't have learned the dragon language from him
Maybe there had been others who were born with very faint powers like Fatespeaker, but were so unhealthy and suppressed that they might as well have been nonexistant. That, paired with being told there were no powers, would make them just ignore it, mane even considered a danger. I bet Fatespeaker might have been killed as a nuisance any other time.
As for chocolate, what if they just dry the beans and eat them? That would give the iron, maybe? But that is a stretch.
i ❤ your channel!! i’m pretty sure that fatespeaker was raised with the talons of peace, so see had a chance of being born under the moons. great channel!!
I think the thing with Fatespeaker is that she claims to have visions, but it could be her saying things to get her friends to listen to her. Her “mind-reading” might be just an ability to know how others are feeling, but not direct thoughts. She mentions how grumpy Morrowseer is, but more importantly she points out how Starflight is feeling sad and misses his friends when she says “sad-face”. Looking over The Dark Secret there are many instances where she mentions the emotions of other dragons.
I read on the internet that morrowseer said that fate speaker was SLIGHTLY born under the moons giving her the ability the see the future but it’s not always gonna be correct so she does
kinda have powers and what she said in the vid with the mind reading
I believe the fate speaker thing is because she was raised in a different part of the volcano, which is away from all the other night wings and from the graphic novel it seems to me they had a giant window/entrance in their room so I’m assuming at least SOME moonlight was able to get in
I actually never considered rainwing blood not being red. but what you say makes sense. I think the inly Rainwing who could have had red blood would be Glory cause I think she ate meat before discovering Rainwings ate fruit. Yet whether Glory ate enough depends. But all of those things I have wondered about. it was great seeing them broken down.
This is my question: In The Dark Secret, Fatespeaker talked about how she was a seer, not a mindereader. If she felt emotions from other dragons, I guess I just feel like she should have known that she was not a prophet. It’s like, shouldn’t everybody have known? Don’t the Nightwings have scrolls on that?!
6:04 - 7:28 *My analysis on this part.* What about *Moonwatcher?* She could ( _kind of_ ) speak ( _or roar?_ _Dragons roar_ ) when she hatched. Evidence ( _good enough I guess_ ), Part from book 6 prologue: "...A long pause. And then, barely a whisper: “Mommy?" ... " This *might just show that dragons are hatched with the ability to speak.* Which would mean that Sky, being able to speak Dragon without learning, would make sense.
*But* Bumblebee, hatched, and all we see is her *imitating and learning* from the others. Only in the epilogue of book 15 do we see Bumblebee speak proper Dragon. Also Moonwatcher's mother only visited her every in a long time. How could have Moonwatcher learned enough Dragon in that time though? Doesn't make sense.
What I think is that Dragons develop the ability over time and with contact with other dragons, it develops faster. I guess. Or probably Tui intentionally gave the Sky the ability to speak dragon so the book would work out.
Great vid as usual @Dogloverlikesdoge
This one got me thinking *alot*
My brain has been melted *and* fried. + I lost like 10 brain cells. oof.Analaysis
I'm pretty sure that Fatespeaker has the "teardrop" scale because she was very close to being born under a full moon. Starflight, although being born under three whole moons, does not have a teardrop scale because he was hidden under a mountain, with no exposure to moonlight.
idk just my theory
RainWings might have the cows for milk bc the Mudwing Kingdom is right next to the RainForest
My theory: she can actually read other dragons minds all those hazy “vision” are because she’s seeing other dragons memories playing over and over again in her head, that’s why she remembers the volcano, despite not being born there. That’s why her vision of being hit by the sky fire was probably her reading somebody else’s mind who thought it would fall on them. She could be the next clearsight except she’s a mind reader version, Clearsite didn’t have any special powers or anything he just took a lot of worrying and studying intricately. She was probably born In a cave with partial light that’s why her ability is so weak.
Fatespeakers egg was given to the talons. Fatespeaker stated they were always moving around too so possibly she could have weaker powers.
Another thing for the Rainwing blood, since they can absorb energy from the Sun they have to have some sort of liquid that allows them to do photosynthesis, aka chlorophyll, and chlorophyll is green which means that their blood should be a tad bit greener than other tribes, which means that there is green in the mix of Rainwing blood.
I may or may not have gotten something wrong but anyway that’s all I have to say
I’m guessing her silver teardrop scales are actually shiny patterns near her eyes and that’s why she doesn’t have powers
This isn't really something that doesn't make sense but it's been nagging me for a while, If Arctic had Blue Blood and Foeslayer had red, does that mean Darkstalker and Whiteout have... Purple blood?
{Edit} Here's something that doesn't make sense, hybrids.
Now before you ask me what I'm talking about let me explain, when you have two different species breed, you can get a offspring that inherits certain... "Traits" these can be dominant or recessive traits, with dominant genetic traits being the oned to most likely appear. However, to get a perfect hybrid as shown through the WOF universe you need to continuously breed the offspring you get, and it take hundreds and even thousands of tries to get that perfect hybrid that shows both traits from both species. And yet after one breeding, you get the perfect hybrid that shows traits clearly from both sides of the family. BUT that's just scientific logic, since this is a fantasy series maybe the rules are different? I don't know.
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@@VVToonZ ...What?
Ooh, that'd be interesting! It would be pretty cool, although you do inherit most of your genetics from your mom's side, so it would make sense that their blood is red. However, I do think it'd be pretty neat to see dragons with purple blood 👀(With it eventually fading out of the bloodline)
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Maybe some fanfic writer will implement that? I don't know.
Great video as always! I think some rules may not apply since this is a fantasy series.
6:35 in Moon Rising, Moonwatcher can speak almost immediately as when SecretKeeper leaves to go back to the volcano, Moon says “Mama?” Not much but still a word
This makes sence. Idk how you make this stuff up but it makes sence. 🤯😳
actually.. rainwing blood SHOULD be red; they're vegetarians- unlike dragons liek silkwings - which are naturally herbivores. and even silkwings still have red blood, too
people often forget that the rainwings ahve chosen not to eat meat, not that they can't or shouldnt. and it's liekly every now and then they still do eat forms of protien that could give them iron, despite their mostly-vegetarian lifestyle. plus; if they didnt have hemoglobin, that would suck! really bad! for a large animal that does a lot fo physical activity.
i dont think they get it from the sun; unless rainwings are actually some weird plants that are phtosynthisizing. it's clear they can, and do soemthimes, eat meat. in the books some are described as eating rainforest animals, so yeah.
EDIT: I FORGOT ABOUT INSECTS! they probably eat insects too! like a bearded dragon; they get their iron from bugs!
oh and just in acse anyone is reading this, icewings having blue blood makes sense to some extent;
irl its found in arthropods that live in colder climates, as hemocyanin (the thing that turns blood blue once exposed to oxygen) contains copper instead of iron, making it worse at transferring oxygen throughout the system - but this isnt a bad thing as colder climates are generally more oxygen rich; espcieally in water.
For fatespeaker, I assumed she was born on the right night but due to the volcano covering the moon, she got got scales but not the power. I'm thinking plenty of other dragonets had the teardrop scales with no power and maybe the nightwings assumed it was just a rare marking or something genetic; and the reason fatespeaker insists she has powers is because she was raised as a prophecy dragnet and assumed nightwings are ment to have powers, so she must have them too.
With Fatespeaker, it is mentioned in the book that she is an 'Empath', which means she can feel/understand/sense another dragon's emotions.
Although she could probably feel the doubt coming off of Morrowseer and the other NightWings when she claimed to be a seer, she was too determined to prove it - or she is just totally delusional about her visions, and she may have tricked her mind into seeing things that look like visions, but are totally just her imagination.
Basically she can feel emotions and her brain is gaslighting her
yay
edit: The moons/moon had to be full for a dragon to get their powers. So perhaps it's just sheer bad luck that no NightWings ever hatched on a full moon, especially if the numbers of eggs and surviving dragonets started depleting. Perhaps there were other empaths, or very weak seers, but most - if not all of them died before ever discovering what they had. Maybe Fatespeaker was hatched when a full moon was going down, and the sun was coming up. It was just enough moonlight to give her powers, but very very weak powers. It was just pure luck that she survived dragonethood.
4:57 The age thing: It’s been a very complicated matter. I think I remember commenting about this topic on one of JMA’s videos. So anyway, the age thing has always baffled me. Our (Me and my sis, she introduced me to the siries, thanks a lot sis, would be here without you) first conclusion was that each dragon year is equal to 1.5 humans years. This was due to the fact that if dragons are 7 when a person is 18. Now 7 isn’t a multiple of 18 so we changed it to 2.5, but still, it didn’t feel right. Now on the comment I made on JMA’s video, one of the conclusions he responded with is that there is several different ratios. Basically, the first ratio is 2.57 (I’ve ran it in the calculator just now) and then we’ll I can’t remember. I have five different channels with probably hundreds of comments… I’ll have to find it, but for now, there are different ratios. Now the age thing is also weird because, what is the aged based on. I mean Ik they have a calendar, but. How do they celebrate their birthdays. What I’m saying is, is that, how is their age “related” to human age proportionately? Is their aged base off, mental deve
4:54 so you’re saying that Onyx is the same height as Morrowseer?! Morrowseer is massive his head looks like it brushes the tops of the cavern on the volcano and he dwarfed the other dragons in the cave and his head is about the size of starflight’s horns to his mid-neck
The only partial logic to Sky speaking dragon.
Cats that are separated from all other cats are able to make the noise, but they aren’t taught it. Like baby’s can cry and laugh, but they can’t speak.
cats can’t ‘talk’ but can communicate in a sense.
I always wondered about Fatespeaker as well! I heard about that interview with Tui, it still didn’t really make sense. I always thought she was hatched outside the volcano, in the shade or something, but I don’t know where I got that from and it doesn’t make sense. There’s just no real plausible explanation for it.
Finally, someone brought up the Sky speaking Dragon. This really stuck out for me when Wren asked him what “map” was in dragon. A newborn dragonet wouldn’t know it??? Even if we were generous, and say Kestrel had them for a week, even a month (which is highly, HIGHLY unlikely), he would still only know a few words (mostly names) and *maybe* basic grammar, but being basically fluent? No way. And he couldn’t have picked it up while he was with Wren, since they purposefully avoided dragons as much as possible.
This taught me a lot about blood and iron. Maybe they do eat a lot of legumes or nuts, but we just don’t see it? Like, they’re normally eaten as a side or something instead of the main meal, which is fruit for them. I always thought they had a diet similar to many types of rainforest monkeys, which is lots of fruit but also nuts and legumes. Also, maybe they’re bigger than real nuts (haha more inconsistent food sizes).
For the fatespeaker topic, I thought she had the ability to see visions, because I think either the first or second time she appeared/ was introduced, was I think when the fake dragonets where introduced with morrowseer. Fatespeaker claims to have seen the future where the fake dragonets have a different breakfast, a new talon of peace, and more I can’t remember. I remember reading a book or two later and thinking: “Wow she actually predicted all that” and being like: “how? Nightwings don’t have powers?” And its been confusing since.
I know this is a bit dark but the books say the main reason the NightWings moved to the volcano and stopped having moonborn dragonets is because they didn't want another Darkstalker. If there were any dragonets with obvious powers they were probably murdered because the NightWings though the Dragonet might become like Darkstalker.
Fatespeaker only survived because the tribe was desperate to have more dragons.
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 wasn't Fatespeaker hatched with the Talons of Peace? I seem to remember reading this info?
Speaking of blood and Flames Of Hope- there's a mistake where Tsunami's blood is said to be blue (Part 2, Chapter 18, page 222, first paragraph) "Luna could see blue blood welling up along Tsunami's scales from the cuts"
I’d like to mention the Fatespeaker analysis.
She was likely born in a Talons of Peace camp, NOT the mountain. The books say she was born before the actual dragonets, so she was not born on the Brightest Night. (I think the moons having to do with powers is mentioned in Legends: Darkstalker) Since she was born under probably 1 or no full moons, that would explain why her powers were so diluted. IF she was born at the Nightwing kingdom, I’d assume that the Nightwings keep their eggs in a specific hatching room that would not give the eggs the ability to see the moon, while I think it was mentioned that Fatespeaker had already hatched by the time she was taken to the mountain. Most of this is based on my vague recognition of Darkstalker and The Dark Secret, so feel free to correct me in the comments.
Completely off topic, but I wish that Starflight would’ve been taken outside while hatching, which would make him a powerful seer and mind reader. I get that there’s no way Kestrel, Webs, and Dune could’ve known that, but still.
1:47 This is a topic I have gone over over, and over again. Ever since I actually thought about Fatspeaker's design. In the book, it says something along the lines of Fatespeaker's egg being exposed to the moons for only a few minutes or so, and then they were blocked out. I'm glad you brought this up because this is something I think no one really thinks about, even though it's really interesting.
Fatespeaker was not born on the volcano. How dos every one keep forgetting that. She was also raised by the talens of peace.
Good point, but were the talons of peace on the volcano for a little bit
Here's a theory I have on Fatespeaker's power:
I think her eggs was born on the Volcano but was brought to the Talons of peace of a couple days before she hatched. So her egg didn't turn fully silver in the past day or so in the moonlight, which gave her a very weak power of some sort. Overall, I think her egg didn't turn fully silver, which gave her very weak powers.
About the onyx one, I’m no wof expert or anything so sorry if I mess up. I understand what you’re saying in relation to it being weird that Onyx is super old compared to all the younger students at the school. But it is more likely that the school is more for dragons that lacked education due to the war. it’s probably for dragons that were born during the war, and sense most of the dragons were busy fighting, the younger dragons probably lacked a proper education (assuming so at least). While I’m not sure if onyx was born during the war, it does make sense she should go to a school of this nature, she was roaming the desert with her mom, and probably didn’t have a vary good education, so it makes sense she would go to a school like this. And if that theory is wrong I have another. It could just have been simply that sense Queen thorn choose who went, she probably choose onyx because she knew that the never had a proper education.
But anyway that’s just what I think!
Onyx was born before the war when Palm and Prince Smolder had the egg in secret. Oasis eventually found out, causing Palm to have to flee with her daughter. The War of SandWing Succession didn't last 20 years like the prophecy said it would, so I can understand the confusion. The dragonets left the cave before they were "supposed" to. It ended up lasting just a little less than 20 years, meaning Onyx was under the age of one when it began.
the reason is that fatespeaker was born with the talons of peace with after six years the false dragonets were taken to the nightwings after the plot of book two
There is something that I think makes zero sense about the teardrop scales. Even though mind readers only have them, in the official Wings of Fire coloring book ClearSight has them. I don’t know how this makes sense but maybe it’s a similar situation to WhiteOut? For the Sky situation Moon immediately says “mama?” When she was born in the Wings of Fire book six graphic novel. I don’t remember if it’s the same in the actual book but I only remember it happening in the graphic novel.
Somewhere in the books it mentions Kestrel being found by scarlet and her soldiers an entire year after her egg hatched, that is definitely enough time for a dragon to learn how to speak. Moonwatcher manages to speak after being born 40 seconds ago
The book said that they were newly-hatched. It never says that a year passed, just that the eggs hatched and everyone saw how Sky had no fire and Peril had too much of it. Scarlet tried to kick Kestrel out of the breeding program forever and wanted the dragonets dead (per SkyWing tradition).
"But Kestrel tried to escape. She took her two dragonets from the *hatching cave* and *tried* to flee with them down the mountain."
A quote from Osprey in The Dragonet Prophecy
The way dragons learn to speak is pretty inconsistent and confusing, but the most clear we've seen is Moonwatcher whisper faintly "Mommy?" Bumblebee just babbled even though she was around dragons. She was learning the language slowly, which is how we can assume most dragons do. In Moon's case, she probably heard the word in his mother's mind. That doesn't happen with the typical dragonet.
Sky understanding how to speak that quickly is quite farfetched. He had been around dragons for not very long, yet was still able to make a joint/combination language of dragon and human with Wren. Even if he did learn things slowly over time by visiting dragon villages and whatnot, it would have taken quite awhile and I'm not sure how others would have reacted to him not knowing a single word at such a old age. Dragons grow and learn very fast.
For everyone wondering how sky could learn to speak dragon, i have a counter question. How does every human on their planet, even from different continents, speak the same language? Especially since humans dont seem to be as wide spread or able to travel between distant groups as easily since giant flying monsters can eat them
Actually, according to Morrowseer Fatespeaker started hatching on the volcano then was later moved to the ToP camp, which would make sense for her to have week mind-reading.
And she’s an empath (aka a NightWing who can feel strong emotions)
It was also confusing on how in book 15th SeaWing blood is blue, yet in any other book it’s red (and the graphic novels)
Do you have a page number or quote?
If I remember correctly it was when Morrowseer told the dragonets that the prophecy was fake, or Fatespeaker mentioned it in The Dark Sercet, if I’m wrong, which I might be. Fatespeaker was probably hatched on volcano, then moved after she was hatched. Maybe the moons gave her weak mind-reading when she was just a young dragonet
Idea on fatespeakers power:
He was born outside the volcano and the moons were barely visible through the clouds, smoke, hence the weak powers 🎉🎉
I thoguht Fatespeaker was female?
Idk who is female and male, sorry
Onyx only went to Jade Mountin to get closer to Sunny because she wanted to steal the throne from Thorn. That's why there's such a large age gap inbetween her and the other students.
I’m so misguided by sky….on book 15 he looks like peril but a lil bit lighter…but before book 15 he was a light orange and he was described with light orange scales.
the last theory makes perfect sense. Rainwings do have a lot of different fruits in the rain forest though, and some probably don't exist in our world like dragon flame cactus doesn't? Idk maybe that could give them iron?
I got wings of fire books for Christmas 🥳
Whoa, nice! Which ones?
@@Dogloverlikesdoge 1-8 :D
I think Sky learned how to talk by traveling to towns and villages
Quibli best WoF character?
Fatespeakers makes sense to me- she could tell that orchid was thirsty. I can’t tell if it’s common sense or her reading emotions, I do BELIVE she could.
In the guide book, moon describes teardrop scales as “Mind Readers” such as fatespeaker, btw. OH, and btw, FateSpeaker might have hatched under a full moon if she hatched on one of the forests on the edge of the volcano
I think maybe the moon appears slightly through the clouds and ash that were in the air in the Volcano, and maybe Fatespeaker was hatched magically under the brief moonlight.
That's all I have to say for Fatespeaker potentially having powers lol
I feel like Rainwings having red blood makes plenty of sense. For one, there are actually some fruits and seeds that could be in the rainforest which have iron in them. Such as bananas, figs, Avocados, apricots maybe Raspberries and blackberries. For another there is some dialog that outright says they are not 'strictly' vegetarian and dialog that suggests they have tried eating some of the frogs so they probably eat a lot of different things as long as its easy to catch and not too adorable to eat XD
you need to keep in mind that onyx never went to any kind of school before this, and probably didn't have a real education.
If there were other eggs in FateSpeaker's hatching, perhaps her egg was placed in a place where there was a -little- moonlight that touched her egg?
Sky problobly wandered into a dragon village and overheard dragons talking or was taught a little bit before going back to wren. Then he probably spied on dragons and taught it to the humans and the humans learned to know what they were talking about and taught themselves the rest. GIVE US AWNSERS TUI!!!
Im pretty sure that Fatespeaker was born with the top talons of peace
I think onyx was trying to kidnap ostrich. Cause her and qibli’s grandfather had a deal all ready. So I just think she was undercover. 🤔
The RainWing blood one- Chameleon was injured to the point of bleeding in Escaping Peril, so when its graphic novel is made we could find out
i think there was a point where the fog slightly showed a moon the day fatespeaker hatched. so thats why it caused her powers to be weak. so like she was supposed to be a mind reader.
Ok Fatespeaker was born under the moon LIGHT Darkstalker said, ok people? The moon light touched her egg, but to clarify her powers are SUPER DUPER NUPER WEAK
Fatespeaker: She was almost hatched on a moon, and she has smaller teardrop scales since she DOES have a NightWing power, although it's very weak.
Moonwatcher is able to feel other dragons (and scavengers) emotions, especially when you touch them, but she can also read their thoughts. That's the same with Fatespeaker, too. But as hers is much weaker she can only read their emotions...
She's an empath!
Maybe Jade Mountain excepted Onyx because she had no where else to go. When Quibli and Moon were investigating her, she said that her mother died and now had no home
Fate speaker was born in the Talons Of Peace camp, so her egg has seen one moon.
So she came out to have a very weak power of seeing the future, but in one of the books DarkStalker explained that only mind readers have silver scales.
Maybe she can read mind’s faintly that she dose not notice it.
Just a theory you can talk about in another video…
On top of Sky being able to speak dragon, i'd want ot add that it makes even less sense for Freedom or Cottonmouth to speak or understand it. Book 15 explains that the reason why both are able to talk to Dusky and Luna is bc Cottonmouth can speak dragon thx to Freedom, the same way she can speak human thx to Cottonmouth. But this doesn't make sense- Freedom was stolen from her parents as an egg, and only hatched when she was brought to Pantala. Which means that she never had any contact with dragons after her hatching. On top of that, she could only have been a few weeks old when she died. And I doubt Cottonmouth was able to learn dragon before he died either. We also know that neither of them has had proper contact with dragons until Wasp got possessed. My only guess is that they somehow learned dragon thx to Wasp, but even that doesn't make much sense, as Wasp first would have needed to give them permission to see her memories before they'd get connected enough to learn that kind of stuff. And how could she give them permission if they wouldn't be able to speak dragon? So the book implies Freedom and Cottonmouth were able to learn and speak dragon before meeting Wasp, despite neither of them having learned it during their lives, and also neither of them having seen or proprly contacted a dragon prior to Wasp. Who, might I add, is rather aggressive, and would prolly not have attempted to listen to a human and baby dragon if they did not know her language, especially not if the baby dragon kind of looked like a Silk-Leaf hybrid-
I think ot was explained in book 15 that it was the power of the tellepathic link via the Othermind that broke the language barrier;
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but that begs the question why Moon couldn't read the exact thoguhts of Winter's pet scavenger in book 6?
For the Rainwing blood-color, personally I hc that Rainwings developed an adaptation where they have internal sources of chloroplasts that then produces chlorophyll when they have their suntime. Much like the Leaf Slugs.
Enfaîte ces choses là ont du sens
Fatespeaker : Elle est née avec les serres de la paix donc pas sur l'île volcanique elle a donc pu naître à l'air libre. (Aussi il me semble bizzare que Tui est comfirmé que elle ne soit pas voyante car il me semble que elle a au contraire dit que elle l'était)
Onyx : Enfaîte certes c'est étrange mais pas impossible. Dans certains pays des adultes vont à l'école primaire ou au collège car ils n'ont pas eu l'éducation nécessaire. Peut-être que Onyx ne sait pas des connaissances essentielles et est venu les étudier.
Sky : Je suis d'accord avec toi
Rainwinng Blood : Enfaîte si il le peut. Ils pourraient très bien tirer le lait nécessaire au chocolat dans les paresseux. Cela peut sembler incongrue mais à votre avis qu'est-ce qui aurait poussé à l'origine les ailes de pluies à les élever ? Pour leur lait ! Ils auraient commencé à traire le paresseux et je pense qu'ils auraient récolté le sucre à base de canne à sucre ou de béterave. J'imagine bien un rainwing découvrir une canne à sucre qu'il n'a jamais vu essayer de la manger et découvrir le sucre que elle contient. Commencant ainsi à les élever ils aurait fait le chocolat
My main theory about Fatespeaker is that she’s Greatness’s daughter. I have a reasonable explanation for this. There is a special spot where all royal dragonets hatch that has a sliver of moonlight, enough for a dragonet to get weak powers. Of course, only a few like that have hatched. Greatness, being as ditzy as she is, didn’t want to keep her egg but knew she should at least hatch it under a few moons for the Talons of Peace. Of course, for this to be true, they probably would’ve hatched Starflight under this as well. Just a dumb theory.
If her powers are hidden doesn’t that mean she can awaken them or make them more powerful? Why I say this is because in the first book when clay finds out that he has fire proof scales, yes , clay had the ability because of his egg being the colour of dragon blood but as we learned that power was only in small scale under the mountain . It wasn’t until clay found some mud did his powers really become powers. And moon from moon rising had a similar thing. She was born out of the night wing kingdom but in stead the rain forest, sure she was born under the bright three moons better that fate speaker but from seeing pictures from the graphic novel version is shows her egg was hatched in a thick bush with probably lots of trees covering up too. It was only after she was in clear space for long enough did her powers start to work. If we follow these same rules with fate speaker, doesn’t that mean that she’s still able to fully get her powers? I mean even though she’s gone outside after book 5 and countinue to for the rest of the series doesn’t mean she has no hope, after all moon grew up most of her life out of the night wing kingdom.
7:03 first off of bumblebee is basically a newborn(it’s barely been a year since she was born) and the sky was about the size of a cliff(which is me guesstimating) so he couldn’t have been that young. Maybe he couldn’t talk, but he did have a slight grasp. Combine that with probably hearing bits and pieces from dragons while traveling with wren you could probably speak a small amount of dragon You have to remember there were words both of them did not know.
I don't think Fatespeaker was born on the volcano, but I haven't read the first arc in forever; and I think she might have some kind of very weak seer powers, because remember she thought the comet was going to fall on them? In the graphic novel we only see a large fireball falling from the sky when Peril swoops down to save Clay because she was going so fast, so I think that's what she saw, if she saw anything
I don't think rainwing blood being a different color holds much truth. As stated, hemoglobin (more specifically, heme) is paramount in characteristic red blood; however, the foods you mentioned lacking iron don't cover the full rainwing dietary palate. For instance, strawberries, apples, bananas, & pomegranates all contain sufficient amounts of heme to constitute at least semi-red blood. These are all fruits mentioned by rainwings in books 3/6. For the rainwings to have non-red blood, they would need to avoid eating all of those fruits in excess; however, we see in books 3/6 that the rainwings have no issue laying around eating fruit all day, and they would naturally have to be eating a fair amount of these fruits given the selection size. As I stated, eating these fruits will produce enough heme for AT LEAST semi-red blood. We also have to consider that the rainwings devote several hours a day to sitting in the sun, which optimizes the body's nutrient intake, therefore passively increasing ferric (iron) intake. Further evidence for the rainwings having red blood is that none are anemic or sideropenic, both disorders caused by low iron intake/decreased hemoglobin (and are common for vegetarians). This is proven in book seven when kinkajou is attacked by chameleon. Had she been anemic (low hemoglobin or iron), she would've folded like a lawnchair after being hit, since there wouldn't have been enough iron to support her bones (assuming she ate like the other rainwings, therefore having too little hemoglobin for red blood, causing anemia). In fact, for your theory (rainwings don't have enough hemoglobin for red blood) to work, none of the rainwings would be able to fly since there wouldn't be enough iron or heme in their blood to support their bodies. They would all have osteomalacia from a lifetime of eating low-Ferrum foods!
The only scientific way that rainwings could have non-red blood is if they were biliverdic. Biliverdin is caused by erythrocytes (red blood cells) breaking down hemoglobin inside them, causing jaundice (green/black blood), which kills if left untreated. Despite this, there's a species of biliverdic lizard that exists naturally. However, if the rainwings were like these lizards, their entire look would be different, and their blood would be poisonous & green.
With that, I digress; if you care enough, feel free to check my facts, I just quoted some stuff from my anatomy/bio 102 notes, so I could be dead wrong.
Sounds right to me that theory is debunked.
Fatespeaker might have been the first dragon 2000 years because she wasn't born under the volcano. Morrowseer took her egg away.
What i first thought when i read dragonslayer is how is Sky still alive? It was said Kestrel snapped his neck. Also how would Kestrel have time to look for Sky if she went straight to the Talons Of Peace and basically didnt l until the dods where born. Someone explain this to me. As well i also support the theory that Sky has fire resistant scales along with flamesilks. As flamesilk is basically the same heat of fire.
6:41 unrelated to the theory, but Sky has that "Me on Monday" look.
I think it said somewhere in the books fatespeaker was brought to the TOP as an egg from the volcano island but hatched with the TOP so maybe the egg was unhealthy but she hatched under the moons so the power was damaged?
1:56 Darkstalker says she has weak powers, and I think he may be right, although it confuses me. The teardrop scales by her eyes are a hint to her mind-reading powers, but it is mentioned in Moon Rising that they’re not as bright as Moon’s. I think this shows she somehow has the power to at least sense the feelings of other dragons. It makes no sense, considering she was born on the volcano (read The Dark Secret if you don’t believe me), and you can’t see the moon there. But some of her visions also came true, and they were very weak as well. I suspect that Fatespeaker was born on a night with two full moons, and she was outside the fortress when she hatched. There may have been some very faint moonlight filtering through to the island, and that’s how she got her weak powers. But that’s just a theory, so I can’t be sure, but that’s what I personally think. 2:46 maybe Tui said she isn’t a seer, but can that explain how a few (very few) of her “visions” came true? I’m not sure, this makes no sense, tbh. Darkstalker also said that she isn’t a seer, but still…
7:04 ok, even though Kestrel didn’t keep them hidden for long, it’s very possible that she spoke to them, and when Scarlet found them, she spoke Dragon. It’s a very confusing concept, but like you said, they seem to learn through imitation. Sky must’ve imitated Kestrel. I know he shouldn’t have been able to speak Dragon that well, but still. Also, it’s said that Wren seemed to speak Dragon better than Sky himself, so I don’t know what’s up with that. I hope you get the gist of what I’m trying to say 😂😅
I think I made a very long argument about these things 😂😅😅. I agree that those things made zero sense tho. I’ve always wondered EXACTLY how Fatespeaker got her powers, and how EXACTLY Sky can speak Dragon so well, considering he got thrown in the river not long after he hatched. Sorry this comment was so long, and have a good day!😅😅
Good observation about the teardrop scales description!
However, regarding Fatespeaker's "visions," her predictions that came true were more of just guesses or things that were obvious, like how meeting Battlewinner was going to be "scary."
I think that's a decent assumption to make. As seen from Whiteout's prophecies, they still needed to be decoded, they weren't just stating the obvious. Plus, most of what she said never happened, or even seemed like a possibility of something that *could* happen.
Normally I would be able to consider the possibility of very very weak mindreading (especially because sometimes she got half of the truth), but Tui saying she isn't a seer really makes me believe it.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge yeah, I know that Tui said that she’s not a seer… and I know that her “visions” were guesses, but I still feel like she might have the teeniest bit of future seeing. This is because, sure, it may have been a guess when she thought that Starflight was part of her destiny… but she just felt so sure, especially when you’re seeing it from her perspective. That’s probably the only thing that makes me even think she has some sort of future seeing power, but other than that, Tui is right.
And I personally have no idea how I even remembered the teardrop scale description, especially since I haven’t read Moon Rising in a while. And thanks.
I guess you don't remember BUT in book 10 we learn onyx was gonna take the throne from thorn, but quibli's grandpa told her to go to jade mountain so no one new what she was planning to do
He's already a dragon so he's already going to know how to speak dragon
Fatespeaker was NOT hatched on the volcano she was hatched in the talons of peace camp and darkstalker’s theary is that she ALMOST hatched under 1 full moon