Turning a TENNIS COURT into a SOLAR FARM! 🎾⚡️
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So how many inverters did you have for the whole array
The way Jordan opened that Magnum just blew my mind! 😂
Don’t often comment, but those cables in the poorly installed floor basket will be eaten by squirrels and other rodents in no time at all. They need to be armoured or AT LEAST in conduit. For £60k I’d certainly be expecting basic cable protection designed as a minimum for single tri rated. One of the electricians on site should have picked up on it. Great videography though 👍🏿
It'll be the last thing that Squirrel will chew into, leave it as a warning to others.
How bloody dare you……5 star electricians this lot! Take it back you jealous git!!
@@kentmccroskey3712no it wouldn’t, it happens quite a lot.
@@kentmccroskey3712why? The solar panel's pos/neg cables are not related to earth... there will be no current flowing unless they would chew into both at once.
Always funny listening to the classic 'cowboys here / what a bodgejob'....when biggest clowns are making youtube videos putting down proof
As a fellow solar installer (not in UK) I'd recommend putting the concrete blocks down like every 2nd is rotated 45 ° degrees, it's easier to grab on the corners that way. (Commented at 4:30 minutes didnt see the whole vid)
Edit: I see on the rolling cart the blocks are rotated, I take it back haha
Great job, that's a nice rail system never seen that one!
Great work lads, nice to see people having a laugh and enjoying work!
Much appreciated! They do enjoy their work which is good 👍
❤ Great use of a dead space, also fabulous garden, the Cotinus and Montbretia looked stunning!
It was a really nice garden 🪴
Have enjoyed watching several of your videos, and thought there were some great pointers in this particular one that would help prospective Solar users understand why installations can sometimes be complex.
I have only recently found your channel. This was amazing. I really enjoyed the video and detail and of course the bit of fun at work too. As someone noted earlier, it would be great to see the stats specifically for usage and generation. 🎉 loved it !
Be nice to see the actual installation and connecting of all the solar equipment. 👍
Noted!
Surely this is more of a statement than efficiency
I had this VanDerValk system installed on my flat roof about 2 weeks ago. Very tidy and with enough ballast it's pretty solid. Waiting for the first storm.
Great to hear!
That's what I would be worried about, A bit of wind and they will be flying away.
@davidjones6779 the system has weight calculations based on the wind speeds for your area. My installer doubled the ballast accordingly
Where in the uk are you please. I’m in Surrey / Kent area and can’t find an installer that uses the VanDerValk system to install on my flat roof!
@@zenthor13 North East. Install was done by JDM Earth.
Fantastic install, well done lads and Artisan. 👍👍👍
Thanks 👌
What an awesome setup. Cheers
Glad you like it
John MVP anyways that’s some trick for the pipe
Fabulous guys great workmanship great set up 😎👏🇮🇪
Thanks 👍
well done Jordan, John, Lee, Luke, Reuben with the other guy and camera man great install and video
Glad you enjoyed it
Great work, you guys are truly helping the environment, Brilliant work.
You guys have done a great job 🤓
Reuben got the most important tool in his pocket……. A pot noodle fork (18:30) good lad 😂
Great video and what an install! Can you do another video showing us generation power and what happens to their bills (a before and after installation of electricity bill)
Noted for the future!
This was a cool project. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Well done boys, nice one.
Thank you kindly
I see Reuben has the most important tool sticking out from his pocket. The trusty "Fork". Always need a fork! 😅
Great Video guys, so good I watched it twice. Keep up the good work and turning out all these amazing videos. Well done!
Thanks for watching!
See lots of trees around the tennis court in winter that will cause havoc in the winter with leaves etc, given the side of the panels are open is there an option to close off the sides of the panels?
G,day from Sydney Australia. Great use of space for the solar array. Perfect tip for retrieving lost/broken cables inside large conduit.
Solar edge
I was left wondering about the panel energy production to the inverter- 200% of the interverter and battery storage.
🌏🇭🇲
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, when will we see the second 2 Solax battery installed at the property were having trouble with the landscape install, had similar problem with my slave install too 300mm spacing in soldier like install (single file)
i have jasolar 460w 12 panels, they are lovely :)
Title says ‘at home’. I was thinking it was at Jordan’s gaff. 😂
Great job. I truly think they need more battery storage. I have 11,200 watts of solar, 10kw inverter and 57,2 kw of usable battery storage. I want to double solar and battery storage while adding 1 more inverter. Right now I can go 3 days with no sun and when done I will be able to go 7 days. usually within 7 days I have 1-2 days of decent sun in winter which means I can charge up the batteries fully and then on cloudy days UI can make 25-50% of supply demand. It takes so much extra in the winter since low amount of sun hours.
Jiggery pokery comment from John is spot on. Translates to pain in the arse lol.
Might be silly questions but
1) why east west instead of just south?
2) OR is the wind taking care of reorientation? Are those slabs enough? Why not bolt it down?
This is absolutely hilarious 😂 great watch 👏
Glad you enjoyed it
I bought 2pcs 545 JA solar panels to test them,they are amazing,going to add another 8 of them now
Sounds great!
I think the rubber feet are for flat roof covering so as not to damage it , don't think you needed them on astro turf
How are you going to fix anything semi securely in to Astro turf?
@@Walktheline1991 I don't think they're fixed at all. They're just weighted down with ballast. However, using the rubber feet allows a less wobbly installation than trying to lay flat rails on what might not be a perfectly flat surface.
@@tasmedic no but the rubber feet are for stability as well, without them on straight Astro turf wouldn't sit as balanced
It'll be good when we get to the point where youve got electric naterial handling machines... ive been thinking how cool it would be to have an electric pallet jack for getting heavy loads out of the pickup...
The panels will sag in the center and wont drain on a shallow pitch this will cause soiling. Not that acess is difficult for clening but i would add some syphon drain clips, cost pennies will make a big difference
That’s similar to my system which is East, west and some south facing. Although not quite as large as your system it still manages to charge both my Tesla Powerwalls heat the water and run my two air conditioners as well as a bit to the car and grid, and fortunately I also get a FIT payment. One question though, can this system take over in the event of a power failure, does it have a gateway similar to the Tesla gateway??
You imply that you need to have a Solar Edge system for optimisers and individual panel monitoring.
I have a Solax system with Tigo optimisers for each panel, plus the Tigo monitoring software.
1:20 can always trust rexel to drop your materials to you at 4.32pm when it's time to go home even though you asked for morning 😂😂😂
Hahaha usual 😂
Bet it’s nice to be doing it on the deck for once!
Haha definitely was 😂
2 minutes in. Leigh has given the safety briefing for the motorised barrow, and no one wears earplugs despite the label of 98dB being clearly visible. Just wait until you're 60 and you can't talk to your friends. Industrial deafness is very isolating. Wear your PPE or get off the site.
18:49 why the fork on the belt lmao
Solaredge is massive added complexity for minimal benefit
for a very expensive price
Guys, you have all this knowledge between you all, yet no one thought about buying a REAL compass.
I live in spain and we get some pretty hefty winds and having woken up one morning to discover 8 of my ground mounted panels 30 meters down my garden dragging cables and the twisted remains of aluminium section behind them - even with them fixed down, a ballasted mount rather than hard fixed makes me nervous to say the least
Hmmm Solar edge is not the only optimised system that you can monitor queue Enphase! But any system can be monitored queue Tigo So not all systems that need to be monitored need to be solar edge ;)
Hopefully summer will start soon in the UK for them to give it a real test. It was great until June. July and August has been shocking. Good luck, looks fantastic.
Can't wait!
I normally say Optimisers are a waste of time and money (snake oil perhaps?), but installing on a shaded east/west site and probably constantly soiled panels, maybe they will be some use for a change?
safety meeting gone out the windows 1:28
Just put an ammeter on each string at midday and you will instantly see if one string is not performing properly at peak output and pigeon poo guano is obvious visibly and each panel has three bypass diodes so optimisers are not necessary
3:00 - Could to have had one last game on the tennis court before you dismantled it 😆
Should of had a tournament with the team 😂
having pity for the tense players what a wonderful place to play was that. .but need of solar means the existing supply is not reliable. .. like our supplier raised the cost of a unit
with lot of cuts. ...
Do you ever use bifacial panels on your installations? And have you done any videos showing that format of panels?
I was just thinking of commenting how bifacial panels would be better for this project if floor would be reflective/white.
@@vedranartbifacial are not going to be great with a van der vaalk system. I would personally only recommend bifacial on a proper ground mount installed on tables
Great work Artisans. I’d like to know what’s the return on investment on a system this large.
That is crazy😮 I need it in Czechia😂😅😊 (Czechoslovakia)
Wow all the way over there! Glad to have you watching our videos 👍
surely once batteries are charged and house is being serviced the excess electricity is being exported at a fixed rate? All that credit can then be used through winter for charging the batteries at a super low rate
Should get a charity fund to stick some panels on the roof of the The Centre for
Computing History as they are in your area.
Won't the shade from the trees be a problem?
Wow. What a job. Were you not able to consider a simple mechanical lever elevation adj for summer/winter?
I was wondering about that also, increasing the angle in winter would help increase production right? I like ground mounted panels for the ability to mount them in the right direction and easy access for changing the angles. Cleaning access is also easier in this setup. I also like install where the panels are above grass, veggie gardens or sheds but then you need council approval and cost goes up.
Great job and neat installation. Where can I can those pants you guys are wearing??
I thought optimal fixed angle for the UK was facing directly south and at 36 degrees from the horizontal. I tried east/west config on my shed(12 degrees) and the output was dismal throughout the year compared to my south facing roof(28degrees). Not having a go just curious as to the design.
The due south thing is a true if you're going single string, doing an east-west install gives more energy overall, but requires twice the number of panels. They've over sized on the panels to compensate for picking a poor installation angle. My understanding is that installation system used is for flat roofs where a more conventional angle may not be desirable or achievable due to planning rules etc. At 10 degrees on a winters day it might be better to switch the system off to save power - particularly with ground mounting in an area with boundary shrubberies.
If available space on a wall mounting becomes better in the winter light the further north you are.
why use paving slabs to anchor it down ,could have use spikes driven into the ground
I have a question about the types of solar pannels. Mainly because I live in Scotland so we dont get alot of sun. But I would want to utilise the best amount of energy production I can in Scotland as possible. The silver type ones I wouldnt mind on my roof. But what would be the best for my Enviroment?
Next to no difference, the all blacks basicslly just have a powder coat on the frame, and the cover on back of the module is coloured black rather than white. Most installers will quote for silver frame as they are cheaper and they don't want to lose a job bacause they have speced something more than another installer.
Does british power companies offer net metering? like say this home is regularly outputting 10kw a day in the summer to the grid will they get a credit on their account that then allows them to use that credit during winter, when they aren't producing much which could offset the bill over the years time
yh there are companies that offer it
Payback illustration must be a work or art. Should include cable maintenance, and weekly cleaning costs. £60k just so you have tiny elec bills really doesn't make much sense to me though
We paid just over half that for a very similar system with higher quality panels and more battery storage and I can safely say that this will almost never get’s its money back in the lifetime of the batteries (most expensive component).
Return on Investment (ROI), not payback.
As soon as you start talking about payback everyone will quote a payback period expressed in years, which doesn't tell if it is commercially worthwhile installing the panels, and the reason electricians do that is because they are unable to do any other kind of analysis.
What you need to do is calculate the pence per kWh of the electricity generated by the panels and compare that to the ppkWh for electricity from the national grid (you also need to include the standing charge and VAT but that's easy).
Good news Jordan about Octopus allowing non-mcs certified install to export...
Now even DIY installs can have solar and export. 😃
Can you use mirrors to bounce sunlight for solar panels to maximize the output
You certainly could do that
Were there any planning permissions required, due to the change of use of the tennis court?
Not sure about change of use but for any ground mount over 9 sqm you need planning permission.
May I ask why you never spec the Home Hub varient of the Solaredge inverters?
They only just became widely available in the UK and I would suggest the filming date of this maybe a while ago.
Never see them speed bump cable management before
Pls name the exact specification of these 500W solar panel. GE? Means "General Electric"? or?
I can see why 10 degrees might be used on a flat roof (visually unobtrusive but wouldn’t 40 or 50 degrees be better for particularly winter generation?
Better for winter generation, especially with bifacial panels, but they’d need to be spaced much further apart otherwise they’d shade the next row.
Do you need new planning approval to install this many panels
A fair number of those panels seem to be in shade at various times during the filming. If that was the only place for the solar farm, then I'd probably have thought about microinverters rather than strings, as this tends to be much more efficient in slightly shaded systems.
Easy enough to trim the trees back.
That being said. Any light is light. I’d have opted for a more efficient panel like the Maxeon 6 which has less degradation over time too, plus their new AC version with enphase micro inverters look the dogs.
It's SolarEdge so it works in a similar way to micro inverters. Each panel has an optimiser and allows the panels on the strings to decouple from each other, so if one panel is shaded it doesn't lower the output of the other unshaded panels.
Who uses micro inverters now? SolarEdge is specially designed for shaded arrays
I would have dropped the two left rows down a panel. That's close to the fence considering they want access.
Why not install south facing ?
Hi, Is there any volt drop on a run of cables that long? Or don't you not get volt drop on DC?
Not really, a couple of volts wont really matter, since a big string can easily be 800vdc+ and just 12 or 13 amps on a 6mm² cable.
No, no, definitely no volt drop on DC. It doesn't exist. You can have a cable 1km long if you like...no problem ...
This is a very special case where ohms law does not apply. It's magical ...
Actually the voltage drop on DC is even bigger when on AC. I thought it was strange they didn't even make the calculations to figure out how much voltage they were losing with those long DC cables. It might not be a huge loss but still...
@@1idd0kun And you didn't pass your electrician's qualifications, did you ?
Because you have a poor grasp of the fundamentals.
@@deang5622you do get voltage drop on DC lol
Any planning permission etc required for this large array/set up
Yeah planning permission was required
This install definitely exceeds 9m² surface area therfore would've gone through planning
Lot easier when the the ballast can stay on the ground🙈
Someone needs to invent mountings which have motors in which tilt panels throughout the day. In the morning, tilt towards the east, in the afternoon, tilt towards the west.
Motorised tracking mounts? They exist. Horrendously expensive
Nice job.
Q: how do you cope with over voltage on the DC input which is normally 480v?
60 panels with a VMPP of 33.96 = 2037v 3 X inverters @ 480v = 1480 so DC over voltage of 557v
Voltage regulator
@@Walktheline1991 really, for 60 panels? Do you have a link for one? Thanks
At 25:00 you see them pulling ten cables, two per string so that’s five strings.
@@HowardBurgess 5 strings still carry the voltage, unless they connect in parallel.
@@andyhughes3214if they weren't in parallel then they wouldn't be feeding the strings separately to the house
What lifespan are on those battery banks, and do they have a long warranty. Cheers
10 year warranty.
Google "solaredge battery warranty" there is a pdf with all the details on the warranty.
Great work Artisan, what solar design software do you use?
Probably Valk PVPlanner
Or SolarEdge Designer, which is free and handles all the restrictions internally.@@djtom4550
How long would ot take to make your money back on 60 grands worth of solar panels
I don't think I've seen a layout of panels so flat, and with the 2nd row angled away from the first. Why was this layout/angle chosen?
It's an east/west array which is supposed to do quite well in our lattitude and is used on most of the arrays in farmland that I have seen. It gets better coverage of early and late sun which a purely south array would largely miss but obviously all static arrays are a compromise. It also makes perfect sense of the over sized wrt the inverters set-up, you will never get 100% out of such an array but you will get a longer day.
you didnt leave a link on screen to the swimming pool episode...
Great Install why not show us how to do the solar edge commissioning process ? Only asking as it one of the few inverters I haven’t installed myself
Dead simple, download their setapp, scan the qr code on the side of the inverter, then run through the wizard on your phone.
shade all over that 😎
is it about securing the electricity supply for an entire village?
13:34 Now you already have shadows on the square. That's not suitable.
At an inclination of 15 to 20°, self-cleaning would already have taken place. 10° is very flat. Set up correctly, it should have been 40°, but then there are shadows
Tell Van Der Valk as they make this system & it is in wide spread use.
Great job guys, but disappointing at the end because it would of been interesting to know how the oversized Solar edge worked! At the 27:00 in the video I notice the pipe work was left open and the cables run into an open cage. This might be encourage small rodents to run through and chew the cables!, did you take any further steps to provent this?
We did end up covering the gap!
Magnum... invented by Frisko in Århus, Denmark back in 1987
You should be using solar roadways and solar pathways ;o)
ha ha ha ha, thats one of the tennis post sets i manufacture lmfao. what are the odds of that lol
🤣 😂
lovely install just not sure about the basket.
maybe use some rubber feet and cut some 1inch tray.
😊
Or 20mm galvanized conduit with rubber ramps each side of conduit 😊
Thanks for the tip!
@@artisanelectrics your welcome if you ever want a collaboration let me know. like your channel 😎👌
I'm curious - it looks like you were lining up with magnetic north on the phones. Did you adjust for the magnetic error so you could align on true north??
Great job, but I wonder if these concrete tiles will hold up in a windstorm. A strong current of air under these panels is enough to create a cascading effect.
That tennis court is quite sheltered with all the trees around it. I doubt wind will be a problem
I was wondering that too. In the US you'd be required to use several times that amount of ballast.
@@niktak1114 It would be much better and easier to screw these rails with 12mm screws, probably the costumer didn't want to damage the tennis court
@@araujofi yeah I was expecting them to use ground screws. Perfect application for it.
Absolutely no need to fix it the floor. Sure they would have used the van der vaalk planner that does the wind load calc to work out the ballast.
It will easily stand up to a storm
Most work a team of sparks have ever done 😂
60k just for the panels or the whole Installation?
Do you think there are any economic profit How much he pay for electricity bill ? How many years to payback the cost of these panels?
The same speaking tube was used on the Titanic🤓