Jesus warned to not be deceived, with many saying, "the time is near." In the same discourse, he made it clear his coming is "after the tribulation of those days..." Paul discussed this same "coming" in his Thessalonian letters. If you believe his coming is any other time, you've been deceived.
We will know the time😳 He comes like a thief in the night ! Be Looking , Birth Pains is upon us 🤔 look at World Weather TH-cam : Rage of the Earth 🤔 As in the days of Noah , God Flooded the whole earth , he said he wouldn’t flood the earth Again . God has kept his promise. They would be eating and drinking marrying and giving in marriage he Never said by Birth Pains Floods from rain melting snow and hail , millions are dying . Tornados, Hurricanes, fires , Earthquakes, mudslides , pestilence, diseases 😳 Rapture Psalm 90 : 10 WE FLY AWAY 1941 Hitler made the Jews ware yellow stars this is the Beginning of the last generation 2021 sept 1 became the end of 80 years for it is written four score and ten = 80 years Rapture Soon Start looking now He comes like a thief Have you been born again Jesus Loves you Believe on Jesus You will be saved
@@gerard1954 The Jews. Isaiah says it's the Jews who will have lives like the oak trees. What happens is they accept Jesus after he comes back and so essentially miss the resurrection of the saints. They are saved but still able to die or procreate. Jesus also said the apostles, and possibly the whole church, will sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel.
This video was made 8 years ago...and seems to me like it's a manual for living in Today's times. I am confused about Rapture, Pre-Trib, etc. I am trying. I am in the Word. Pray for me if possible. Love you guys!
There is no rapture. God uses trumps to teach there are seven.. the sixth one satan is kicked to earth and PRETENDS TO BE GOD.. the seventh one Christ returns to the earth. It is that simple don't worship the first super natural entity u see.. wait for the true Christ.
If you love Jesus Christ it won't matter if you believe in a rapture or not. IF a rapture happens those that didn't believe in a rapture will be pleasantly surprised and those that did believe will see their belief come true. IF a rapture does not happen some people may be disappointed and wondering why. Ultimately though all of the christians will go to heaven. Rapture or no rapture is not important, being saved is.
Blot Spew I never knew you (Do your own bible search) Once saved always saved is a false teaching just as the pre rapture is It’s not going to be ok for those who right now believe their OUTTA HERE you’ll be primed for the mark because you weren’t ready ...don’t fool your own selfs you’ll be just like a “Peter” when it all starts going down and your still here BESIDES what sort of “Christian” are you who would be GOOD leaving all your unsaved relations and relationships here knowing what you know....Oh wait your probably the same type of people who haven’t witnessed to them while you had time too
Lightnin Luke no it is very important to understand what is happening and be aware of satans devices the second coming is when Jesus returns he died in the cross and he will come again that is in reference meaning one return not two or three times at the end of days
Why does Paul say::51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," Why is this event he described referred to as a mystery?
Teachers who dismiss the rapture rescue before the great tribulation often use the lack of clear teaching about this doctrine from Jesus or in the Old Testament as proof that it must not be true, but when Paul prefaced his rapture teaching starting in 1 Corinthians 15:51 by saying ‘Behold, I show you a mystery…’ which means the rapture had been hidden before the Holy Spirit began to reveal it thru Paul. And sadly we only have a few clear sentences from Paul’s ministry about the rapture, so most of this teaching must be hidden where the Lord always hides his mysteries, in plain sight but within metaphors, parables, obscure idioms and the like. In other words, if you’re on the bandwagon that claims the rapture must not be true because Jesus didn’t explain this doctrine in clear language, you’ve been looking in the wrong place. He that has ears, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches, including that the Lord will keep some saints away from the time of testing that’s coming on the whole inhabited world to try everyone dwelling on earth (Rev 3:10).
Bible History Science Care to drop any names or schools of thought. I’m just curious how millions of Christians from all over the world could not find it in Greek, Latin, or Syriac until the Reformation. Are you suggesting that the greatest scholars of Christendom missed it for 1500 years? That not one Church Father or Mother found it, none of the ascethetics, not one monk, priest, or lay teacher, all of them missed it?
The Bible talks only of the 2nd coming of Christ, not the 3rd. I was taught the Rapture my whole life, and never gave it a second thought. I was indoctrinated. Not until I started listening to Hank, did I ever consider a different view, which is dangerous. You have to be open to hearing different views, and interpretations, or you may live you whole life being wrong. Not that knowing this has anything to do with being saved, it doesnt. This just makes more sense to me. In my 50 years of studying the Bible, I've learned one thing. I dont know all the answers, and the older I get, the more stupid I realize I am. Thank the Lord, I'm not saved because of my knowledge, but my relationship with Christ. People die from lack of knowledge. That lack of knowledge is, knowing Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour. That's what counts, but it is nice to feel like you have a better understanding of Gods plan. Only that you use the wisdom he reveals to you, to tell others of his love, and strive to minister to them, in Hope's they accept Christ. You dont have to be a scholar to be a disciple, just willing to be a vessel. Jesus does the saving, and God is the one who reveals himself to the unsaved. It's a free gift, not that we should boast.
Very well said. Anyone who grew up within a denomination and accepted all that denomination taught should step back and read the Bible as if reading for the first time while totally forgetting everything they were taught. Otherwise, every text will only serve pretext for prooftext. God bless!
Once saved always saved is a false doctrine just as the pre trib for the exact same reason to deceive ...Satan’s goal is to mock God what better way then working from within he’ll work on their fear of discomfort and fear of death and pain SO he gets into the mind of mean and twists the word and infilters the body with his teachers .... it’s well received because to plays into our self centered self preserving nature BAMM pre tribbers get a wake up call they learn very quickly they’ve been douped they aren’t prepared spiritual (5 oil less Virgins) nor physically preped ( take the Mark) on and on
I knew an atheist law student from Princeton, @@tonymuse, who had read the Bible 4 times just so he could argue with Christians about their faith. A law professor challenged him and told him to read the Bible from cover to cover, "as if it were really true." The law student never made it to the book of Matthew before realizing the Bible's true. He repented, and he became a born-again believer.
the second coming is when Christ comes to earth, then describe the teaching of 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, when the Lord comes in the air for his believers, He is not coming to earth only to meet us in the air ?
TruthSeeker The contrary the way he explains bring confusion, the church has to go in the Rapture and then the tribulación starts...otherwise how you splain the marriage of the lamb in heaven with his church....the marriage of the lamb in heaven with his church .....the church must first be in heaven ....so the Lord to deal with Israel for the last time in the Tribulacion
I use to believe in a pre tribulation rapture but when I read Hank's book The Apocalypse Code and look at the scriptures to back up what Hank is saying I just don't see a pre trib rapture what I see is resurrection.
Tell me what the hour of temptation is if it's not when the Antichrist is here ? Revelation3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
John was addressing Christians in the first century, the church at Philadelphia in Asia Minor to be exact. This was concerning the persecution of the fledgling church. See the following articles… www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
Sorry Hank but you have to deal with "Harpazo" . "they that are alive will be snatched away(harpazo) to meet The Lord in the air" (You can argue about when but not if.) When He returns, we will be summoned to "meet"(Gr escort)Him. This was at the beginning long before Darby's ideas.
Well said! I just told my nay-saying mother almost the same thing yesterday. With the "snatching away" we meet the Lord in the air. At the second coming, the Lord sets foot down on the Mount of Olives.
spot on mate. when, yes but the rapture is a literal real event. biblical. we need to be realky careful what we liste to on line or any where for thst matter. people just accept what is said without looking for themselves. i often say check scripture against the hebrew and greek.
I don't know where this bible man gets his scripture. Can't be from the bible. It literally says Jesus will come as lightning in the clouds and all his elect will be caught up with him. There are a few other videos where this guy is talking complete contradictory nonsense to the bible. In one video he says that hell isn't real and then proceeds to answer someone in the comments by saying hell is real.... Which is it? It can't be both real and not real.
Thank you for this. I have believed what you're saying all my life, but never heard or knew of any one else who shared the same thoughts. I've always felt like I was missing something because I dared to question the whole rapture idea.
The 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler and their guests! Maranatha
I am a bit confused. you say that the ones that are "TAKEN" are taken in judgement yet the Greek word used for "TAKEN" is "paralambanó" which means "To join to one's self or to associate with one's self as a companion or to take or choose" where as the word for left comes from the Greek word "aphiémi" which means "of a husband divorcing his wife or to disregard or to keep no longer or to go away from another in order to go to another place" - how does this translate to taken in judgement?
Here is an Christian Research Journal article on your very question... www.equip.org/article/whos-been-left-behind/#christian-books-3 Warren Nozaki Research
AND ISRAEL IS LITERAL NATION and the Church is LITERAL CHURCH. ALSO, first and second century believers in OT scriptures and Yeshua clearly believed in the calling out of all end of days believers. We need to know all history of early believers of the prophets. John the baptizer had Policarp as his teacher, and Policarp’s teacher also believed in the rapture. Church of Rome changed removed our BLESSED HOPE during the times of universal rule and when they changed the calendar and laws. Know WHY you believe. Study for yourself so that your not deceived.
I agree with Hank on many theological views, just not this one. It’s okay tho. I haven’t found ANY one specific group of Believers that have arrived and walk in the FULLNESS of understanding. All true believers are BEING transformed and redeemed each day that we remain IN Christ alone. Until THAT DAY, Church, may we be found faithfully loving and enduring with one another-the Bride of Christ.
@@toddwood4562 There you go, fruits of the Spirit, call me names. It's ok, I forgive you, but I would get busy refining your view, because you have much to learn.
The Scripture says that Jesus will return to earth with His saints when He returns to lay down rule on earth. How in the world do we return with Him if we were never with Him in Glory? The Scripture also says that angels summon God's elect after Jesus' return to earth "from one end of Heaven to the other". How is that possible if indeed we were never in Heaven?
Good thought but I'd say we aren't the only saints. On judgement day we'll have to wait in line (so to speak) as the saints from the last 2000 years get vindication, they have been waiting to see judgement come to the earth. The first 1000 years of Christianity is marred by persecution. We will join them though if, like Jesus said "we endure to the end."
Lean not on your own understanding. Read and study. We are here. Blessed is he who is doing the Lords work when He comes back. Tell everyone about the gospel.
Josh That is very interesting because the final Trump could be literal as in President Trump. Maybe a warning as God warns His people. The Bible is so incredible to have. Such a blessing
Those that come with Him have already died. Those who are alive and remain are changed to spirit bodies when Christ returns ,to the earth at the 7th trump.
He says there's no verse in the bible that speaks of the rapture because he twists 1 thessalonians 4:16-17 into what he calls a metaphor , or in other words, being caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air isn't something to take literally, but rather metaphorically. Hank falls by the wayside in this example and it's quite possible that those who will be excluded from the event in 1Thess 4:16-17 , are excluded by their unbelief so they can experience the time of trial much like the Jews in order that they will become believers.
***** The rapture comes from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself with His very own words from the gospel of John 14:2-3 where He says " In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. The apostle Paul further explains the Lord coming for His own in 1Thess 4:16-17 where he declares : " For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. To make the claim you just did about some jesuit demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge of God's word.
***** You can sit back in your chair of denial and ignorantly make whatever claims you want. I know what the bible says about the subject of the rapture and the tribulation. I've studied it for years. I don't use fabrications or out of context verses to present the truth. Not everyone who professes Christ will be taken when the rapture happens and the book of Revelation makes that very clear. There will be deniers who proclaim who will be left on the earth to deal with the wrath of God, just as He warned those who refuse to repent.
***** You haven't been face to face with me pal. Don't make claims like you're some ace in the hole debater. I would smoke you like a fish on the subject. Quit making claims you can't back up and start using the bible to disprove the rapture. You will fail every time. Your problem is much like that of others who refuse to believe the truth because your father the devil has blinded your eyes so you can't see.
‘meet’ is just that though, and certainly not in the air anymore than Satan is flying around in the air as the prince of the air. This is answered in the video, meeting in the context of going out to greet a dignitary and ushering them back in, think Palm Sunday, so even if we are levitated physically, that Greek term indicates we’re coming right back down.
@Albert E I can assure you that we will NOT be staying in Suspension! When the Ark was lifted Up on the Waters of Judgment the Ark was suspended UNTIL the Judgment was completed and then it rested back down! So it will be when Jesus comes and we are lifted up to Meet Him as that is that Day of Judgment called The Day of the Lord when Jesus will Trample the Wine Press of His "ORGE"! Once that Day of "ORGE" is completed we will descend with Jesus on that day when Jesus will walk into Jerusalem Triumphant and sit on the Throne of David! The Suspension in the air is because "NO" Child of God is appointed the "ORGE" of God so we will NOT be on the earth on that Day of Trampling!
@Albert E The Throne of David is "Not" in Heaven! The Throne of David is in Jerusalem! Jesus will remain in Heaven UNTIL That Day when He comes and sits on the Throne of David in Jerusalem and begins the Reign as is Prophesied in Scripture! The Throne of David is NOT the same as the Throne that Jesus is presently sitting on at the Right Hand of the Throne of God in Heaven! I am waiting for Jesus to Come and the Resurrection to take place of All the Children of God when we will all then "Together" be Harpazo to Meet Him!
@Albert E Thanks Albert for your honesty! I do appreciate your Humbleness and Honesty! It is wonderful that you are asking questions and seeking answers! Please take your time in seeking and look from many angles! I have spoken with many that have walked a journey similar to yours! So many Theories and so many Doctrines of man that has caused so much confusion and intimidation! Please feel free to ask any questions on my Channel! There are some amazing people that are searching at present for answers and we are all seeking Truth! I will be Patient with you as I hope you will be patient with me! Thanks again for your Humbleness!
Jesus promises the church that He is going to KEEP us from the hour of testing. See REVELATION 3:10. The Apostle Paul taught about the Rapture, read your bible!!!!
You are claiming that the last church on earth is the church of Philadelphia? If the church is no longer here then how do you explain that Laodicea is called a church and comes after Philadelphia?
You have to rightly divide the scriptures to the right events. There are different events that these things refer to. The 10 virgins parable refers the Sheep and Goat Judgment at the end of The Tribulation which determines who, among the survivors is admitted into the Millennial Kingdom.
1) stop implying that anyone who disagrees with you hasn't read their Bible. There's 200 years of indoctrination into this theology that makes it "obvious" even though it's not there. 2) generally people who argue so much for pre-trib dont understand that the majority (in the world if not in America) don't even believe in a literally 7 year tribulation hell in earth with super Hitler, because people take passages out of context and think it should be interpreted hyper literally
Hank, I became a born-again Christian over 30 years ago. I thank you for being there on the radio at that time. Your simple, obvious explanation of the Word of GOD is the example that all biblical teachers should follow. Thank you for your teaching and ministry. Sincerely, Cloud Walker
Cloud, I totally concur. He and his ministry have been a true blessing. Such a respectful, well read student of the word, who also exudes humility (I feel) is hard to find. Chuck Swindoll has many such characteristics, too. IMO.
Tell me what you think a "born again" Christian is. Did you go through an emotional experience to be born again? The process of being born again happens at baptism, at any age. That's always been the way the church understood it. Or to be born again of water and spirit.
@@70AD-user45 you are correct. When I was baptized, I understood that I now have a new spirit. I believe it is the first resurrection of Revelation 20:4. Thanks for your comment!
@@brandoncampadonico45 Good question! The apostles ONLY taught what they learned from Christ. The Jews and some gentiles who converted to Christianity had some knowledge of a resurrection. Keep this in mind as you study the scriptures. I do not believe 1Thess. 4:13-18 is not a separate event from the resurrection to happen at Christ's return. Please read Matthew 25: Return and Judgements. In this passage of scripture, Paul is explaining what will happen at the Second Coming of Jesus. Here though he is ONLY explaining what will happen with the Christians. When Christ returns, time is up and the game is over. The power of the Holy Spirit will cause ALL who have died to be resurrected, Christians as Paul explained, to eternal life with Christ, the unbelievers to eternal damnation. The bodies of believers will be physical and glorified, the bodies of unbelievers will not, but they will also be physical and eternal.
The rapture and the second coming of Christ are often confused. Sometimes it is difficult to determine whether a scripture verse is referring to the rapture or the second coming. However, in studying end-times Bible prophecy, it is very important to differentiate between the two. The rapture is when Jesus Christ returns to remove the church (all believers in Christ) from the earth. The rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies resurrected and, along with believers who are still living, will meet the Lord in the air. This will all occur in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye. The second coming is when Jesus returns to defeat the Antichrist, destroy evil, and establish His millennial kingdom. The second coming is described in Revelation 19:11-16. The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows: 1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14). 2) The second coming occurs after the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6-19). The rapture occurs before the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10). 3) The rapture is the removal of believers from the earth as an act of deliverance (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 5:9). The second coming includes the removal of unbelievers as an act of judgment (Matthew 24:40-41). 4) The rapture will be secret and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The second coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7; Matthew 24:29-30). 5) The second coming of Christ will not occur until after certain other end-times events take place (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Matthew 24:15-30; Revelation chapters 6-18). The rapture is imminent; it could take place at any moment (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54). Why is it important to keep the rapture and the second coming distinct? 1) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, believers will have to go through the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10). 2) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, the return of Christ is not imminent-there are many things which must occur before He can return (Matthew 24:4-30). 3) In describing the tribulation period, Revelation chapters 6-19 nowhere mentions the church. During the tribulation-also called “the time of trouble for Jacob” (Jeremiah 30:7)-God will again turn His primary attention to Israel (Romans 11:17-31). The rapture and second coming are similar but separate events. Both involve Jesus returning. Both are end-times events. However, it is crucially important to recognize the differences. In summary, the rapture is the return of Christ in the clouds to remove all believers from the earth before the time of God’s wrath. The second coming is the return of Christ to the earth to bring the tribulation to an end and to defeat the Antichrist and his evil world empire.
Revelation 3:10 King James Version 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. (Before the trib)
Wasn't Noah saved from the flood? Wasn't Lot saved from the fiery destruction of several cities? Lot was actually in a city that was in close proximity to those that burned up.
@@jimmattson8008 read Luke 17:26-37 the ones left behind are saved the ones taken are fed to the birds. Pretribulation rapture is not biblical, you have to really twist scripture around. Mathew 24:29-31 after tribulation
@@blacksheep6888 wow! That was scripture that I hadn't seen lately. We are to look up to welcome our Lord Jesus when he comes. Leaving all earthly things behind and receiving the heavenly things from above.
! Corinthians 15:51 we shall not all sleep (Sleep is physical death) but shall be changed IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE (thats a perishable mortal body becoming an imperishable body). how can any bible "teacher" not see this ? THIS is the event that is referred to as the "rapture" even though that exact word is not in Scripture. This passage is not referring to the resurrection of the dead for final judgement. That happens after the millenial reign of the Lord Jesus on earth after His second coming. Any teaching that there is no "rapture" of the body of Christ is wrong and in error.
@@IndianaJoe0321 Well there's more evidence of that than Hanegraaff's gives to support his claim that meeting the Lord in the air is nothing more than a metaphor. I don't know how Hanegraaff handles the imagery surrounding the wedding, but how do you interpret it? We see the groom going to his father's house to prepare room for the bride, we see him take the bride to be with him. We see a wedding in heaven, and we see him return with his holy one's wearing white robes - which are the righteous works of his saints. It is easy as it gets to claim that someone else's interpretation is wrong, but I suggest that you provide a better one because I certainly don't see hanegraaf doing that in the video at least.
Well, @@paulbrennan4163 , there is nothing in 1 Thessalonians 4 to indicate that the passage is a metaphor. Moreover, there is nothing to indicate that Jesus suddenly stops, does a 180, and heads back to Heaven -- before coming back a third time. There are two messianic Advents, not three ... "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way, through Jesus, God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep. For we say this to you by a word from the Lord: We who are still alive at the Lord’s coming will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are still alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
The Rapture is in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 harpagēsometha (Greek) = rapiemur (Latin) = we shall be raptured. Raptured = caught up. Check the Greek verb harpazō. I count 9 raptures in the Bible: Enoch, Elijah, Christ, Philip in Acts (short hop rapture), Paul (possibly in vision) John Rev 4:1 (possibility in vision, The Church, & the 2 witnesses of Rev 11. There should be no dispute about the fact of the Rapture. Christians do debate its timing relative to other prophetic events. This debate should not cause rancor. What we believe on the Rapture will not change anything about it one white.
Thank you ! The word "rapture" doesnt appear in the bible but READ 1Thessalonians, Cotinthians. The following PhDs teach a pre-tribulation rapture; (late) Dr John Walvoord, Don Stewart, Jack Hibbs, David Reagan, Mark Hitchcock, oh but, what do they know ?
In about 1986 we started attending a "full gospel" Church, after 6 months or so one of the elders told me he wants to come and check my doctrine. I thought, "this will be interesting!" as I knew I had some different understandings that they would not agree with but kept quiet about so we could fellowship together. he and another person came, we went through most with no problems, when he got into the "rapture" and he asked if I believe that I told him " i have a view that is a bit different, but lets not go there". He would not leave it alone, I told him "it's not in the bible, I only believe what's there" and he tried to show me. We went into it in an extremely through way and carried on until early hours of the morning, then the next evening, and the next. so many people were coming that they filled our lounge by the end. After a week he told me " well, now i have to tell the pastor what we preaching is wrong and we must change". All went quiet for a week, then one day he came alone and told me "I have discussed it with the pastor and we would have to write to head office in America and they would have to write to every full gospel church in the world so they all change at the same time, that too big, it's not going to happen. We will carry on preaching as we were and if you tell anyone I told you this I will deny it". After that the people in the church avoided me. So i stopped going. What can you do with THAT!?
I am in awe of you. To take on the elder and discuss the correct information on the rapture. Your story reveals to me what I and other believers of the rapture know. That most churches don’t teach it under an agreement from corporate office. Satan has done his job by entering the churches changing doctrine all around.
In this video, the caller was asking what 1 Cor 15:51-52 meant about a rapture. I think I see what the caller is getting at, and Hank, in a way, answered it. This passage only talks about the Dead being raised, at the time when Jesus returns. This passage needs to be compared with 1 Thes 4:15-17 where it says the dead in Christ will rise first, and those which are alive and remain shall be caught up together. I'm not yet sure why Hank didn't suggest this, in his response, to the caller ! ?
I was a pre-trib believer for 40 years until I started studying the bible for myself. before listening to Hank, I read the passages he discussed the same way. I like your comparisons with these two passages. However, in your last reference in 1 Thes. the word ''remain'' in the original Greek language,(see Strong's Concordance 4035) is very interesting. it maybe only my opinion, but when translated correctly, to the word ''survive'' it then surely changes the readers understanding of the verse. My question is; does this passage make more sense as a post tribulation theory? what are we to survive?
Steve, it's comical how you make a case that pre trib believers don't study the bible for themselves. You obviously still are not studying it, but rather reading into it your preferences and indoctrinated positions you received from Hank, and not from the spirit of God. The word remain used in the 1 Thess 4 verse is the plain and simple word speaking of those who have not yet died, and are still alive. It clearly says the born again believers who have died will be caught up in the clouds, along with those who are still alive ( remain ) to meet the Lord in the air. Your confusion from Hank has caused you to miss the simplicity of God's word. It's amazing how the wise and self professed scholars miss the simple things.
The writing in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 states that the Lord descends from heaven. The dead in Christ rise first and the living in Christ are caught up in the air. The scripture says they meet the Lord in the air. In John chapter 14 Jesus said that he was going away to prepare a place for the Believers. And he said that where I am you may be also. When Jesus went away as seen in Acts chapter 1, he ascended up into heaven. You tie all the scriptures together and he is preparing a place in heaven. When Jesus said I go to prepare a place for you he did not go to the Earth and is preparing a place for us on Earth. He ascended up into heaven. And so the teaching of 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 is that the Believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. What are they doing in the air meeting Christ in the heavenlies? To go to that place that he promised in John chapter 14, that he would be gone to prepare a place for the believer, that we're Jesus is the believer would be with him also. So there is a catching a way out of this earth into the heavens. If you read the book of Revelation it talks about people in a Heavenly scene and states that they were washed in the blood and came from all kindreds, tongues, and Nations, this is all of those people that will partake in the 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 event of the catching away of God's people. Jesus never prepared a place on Earth after his Ascension into heaven, but remember his words, I go to prepare a place for you. It is a heavenly encounter.
@@jayward1225 Yeah, exactly! Same with 1 Corinthians 15 (?) i believe it is!? Yet, i just listened to this sermon by Francis Chan, about suffering, and i believe he was dead on and it was really convicting!! ...
Matthew 13-37-41 and Revelation 14:14-20 is “the Rapture” Jesus called it the harvest at the end of the age; the weeds among the wheat are the grapes of Gods wrath. The Rapture happens AFTER the foolish virgins fall away and AFTER the number is complete of those who are to be put to death for their faith (Rev. 6:9-11) after the Rapture, God pours out his wrath on the inhabitants of the earth. So, for Noah, the Rapture represents the Ark where he was allowed to escape the flood.
Been saved for nearly 24 years. Been a pre-tribber for 15 of those years due to the immense influence on my eschatology by TBN stalwarts John Hager, Hal Lindsey, Jack Van Impe, Peter and Paul Lalonde and Hilton Sutton. I began to notice flaws in the pre-tribulational rapture around 2009 or thereabouts. Not one verse in Scripture teaches this view I discovered to my amazement. Back then I didn't realize how flimsy a foundation the doctrine is built on. I now believe that the rapture and genera resurrection are all tied together. The Lord descends from heaven with a shout, according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. The dead, both righteous and unrighteous, are raised up. The resurrected righteous meet the Lord in the air. The living righteous are instantaneously transformed into immortal beings and are caught up in the clouds with the Lord and resurrected saints. The Lord then escorts His saints to the earth to commence judgment, as per Revelation 20. After judgment, the eternal age begins in earnest, not a so-called millennium with a rebuilt temple and reinstituted animal sacrificial system and mortal humans who are still copulating. The Chiliast view raises more questions than answers. The same can be said about the pre-trib rapture, which escaped the notice of Christianity for 1830 years of its 2000 years of existence...
Amen Kevin! It takes real courage to question those whom you have looked up to as being "good teachers". It looks to me that you have made an earnest effort to believe in only what scripture tells. God bless!
The pretribulation rapture is not taught in the early church. The rapture theology came about in the 1800's by John Darby! The disciples of the disciples never taught a rapture! Read and think people!
+James Gillespie That answer may be sufficient to those that have not seen the nor want to see the research that has been done that soundly disputes this claim. But as I am unfortunately learning is that people do not care to actually research or they do not want to be challenged on their beliefs. I have researched all the view points over 30 years and the Pre-Trib view is the only one that does not have to spiritualize scripture to make sense. If you take a literal interpretation of scripture which is the way we should unless the Bible tells us otherwise, the Pre-Trib view is the one that makes the most coherent sense. But in this day and age many will follow a teacher and never ever ask questions or do the study themselves.
+RaptureMeSoon. What are the sources you have? And could you explain how Jesus will return two times even though Scripture clearly says He will return once? Or how when the disciples are looking up into the sky the angel tells them that Jesus will return the same way He left.....which is a lie if He returns invisibly to rapture His church. I believed in the rapture for a number of years and then I looked at Scripture and the history of the church...and it wasn't there. I feel sad for those who will be caught off guard by the persecution that will come before Christ returns. Those who follow the unbiblical, man made doctrine of an invisible rapture will be distraught and abandon their man made faith.
James, you're missing a large fact here. The event of 1 Thess 4:16-17 explains that the church bride is caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Jesus does not come back to the earth for this event. He only comes down as far as the clouds and snatches His bride away, like a thief in the night, and takes them to His Father's house, as He explained in John 14:2-3. The second coming is the event when Jesus Christ literally returns to the earth, actually steps down on the soil and remains here to establish His 1,000 year kingdom on earth. Paul and Jude both explain quite well that when Jesus returns to the earth the second time , His church bride is with Him. ( Jude 14-15 ) and ( 1 Thess 3:13 ). If the church bride is with Him when He returns, it stands to reason that they had to be removed sometime beforehand or they would not be returning with Him. They would be waiting for Him.
James Gillespie === You've been told a lie. The lie originates with the papist and his religion. So powerful is this corrupt religion it has the influence to hold back, hide and even change history. The premillennial doctrine (pre-trib rapture) did not originate from Jonn N. Darby in the early nineteenth century. This is a lie. There were many EARLY church fathers who made reference to a premillennial catching away of the body of Jesus Christ. The apostle Paul states, ''I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren ...'' Don't be ignorant. 1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. Here is just a small example of not only the imminence of a rapture but of a premillenial rapture many of the EARLY church fathers wrote about. 1700 years before and on well before Jonn Darby. I could provide much much more proof if you'd like. Barnabas (40-100): “The final stumbling-block (or source of danger) approaches…for the whole [past] time of your faith will profit you nothing, unless now in this wicked time WE also withstand coming sources of danger….That the Black One [Antichrist] may find no means of entrance…” (Epistle of Barnabas, 4). Clement of Rome (40-100): “…the Scripture also bears witness, saying, ‘Speedily will He come, and will not tarry’; and, ‘The Lord shall suddenly come [Matthew 24:30 coming] TO HIS TEMPLE, even the Holy One, for whom ye look'” (I Clement, 23). Hermas (40-140): “Those, therefore, who continue steadfast, and are put through the fire [of the Great Tribulation that is yet to come], will be purified by means of it….Wherefore cease not speaking these things into the ears OF THE SAINTS…” (The Pastor of Hermas, Vision 4). Polycarp (70-167): “He comes as the Judge of the living and the dead” (Epistle to the Philippians, II). Justin Martyr (100-168): “The man of apostasy [Antichrist], who speaks strange things against the Most High, shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against US THE CHRISTIANS…” (Dialogue With Trypho, 110). Melito (100-170): “For with all his strength did the adversary assail us, even then giving a foretaste of his activity among US [during the Great Tribulation] which is to be without restraint…” (Discourse on the Resurrection, i, 8). Irenaeus (140-202): “And they [the ten kings who shall arise] shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her with fire, and shall give their kingdom to the beast, and put the CHURCH to flight” (Against Heresies, V, 26). Cyprian (200-258): “The day of affliction has begun to hang over our heads, and the end of the world and the time of the Antichrist to draw near, so that WE must all stand prepared for the battle…” (Epistle, 55, 1). Victorinus (240-303): “…the times of Antichrist, when all shall be injured” (Commentary on the Apocalypse of the Blessed John, VI, 5). Lactantius (240-330): “And power will be given him [Antichrist] to desolate the whole earth for forty-two months….When these things shall so happen, then the righteous and the followers of truth shall separate themselves from the wicked, and flee into solitudes” (Divine Institutes, VII, 17). Athanasius (293-373): “…they have not spared Thy servants, but are preparing the way for Antichrist” (History of the Arians, VIII, 79). Ephraim the Syrian (306-373): “Nothing remains then, except that the coming of our enemy, Antichrist, appear…” (Sermo Asceticus, I). Pseudo-Ephraem (4th century?): “…there is not other which remains, except the advent of the wicked one [Antichrist]…” (On the Last Times, the Antichrist etc., 2). Cyril of Jerusalem (315-386): “The Church declares to thee the things concerning Antichrist before they arrive…it is well that, knowing these things, thou shouldest make thyself ready beforehand” (Catechetical Lectures, 15, 9). Jerome (340-420): “I told you that Christ would not come unless Antichrist had come BEFORE” (Epistle 21). Bernard of Clairvaux (1090-1153): “There remains only one thing--that the demon of noonday [Antichrist] should appear, to seduce those who REMAIN STILL IN CHRIST…” (Sermons on the Song of Songs, 33, 16). Roger Bacon (1214-1274): “…because of future perils [for the CHURCH] in the times of Antichrist…” (Opus Majus, II, p. 634). John Wycliffe (1320-1384): “Wherefore let us pray to God that he keep us IN the hour of temptation, which is coming upon all the world, Rev. iii” (Writings of the Reverend and Learned John Wickliff, D.D., p. 155). Martin Luther (1483-1546): “[The book of Revelation] is intended as a revelation of things that are to happen in the future, and especially of tribulations and disasters for the CHURCH…” (Works of Martin Luther, VI, p. 481). Menno Simons (1496-1561): “…He will appear as a triumphant prince and a victorious king to bring judgment. Then will those who PERSECUTE US look upon Him…” (Complete Writings…, p. 622). John Calvin (1509-1564): “…we ought to follow in our inquiries after Antichrist, especially where such pride proceeds to a public desolation of the CHURCH” (Institutes, Vol. 2, p. 411). John Knox (1515-1572): “…the great love of God towards his CHURCH, whom he pleased to forewarn of dangers to come, so many years before they come to pass…to wit, The man of sin, The Antichrist, The Whore of Babylon” (The History of the Reformation…, I, p. 76). .
James Gillespie ... It's alright if you don't believe in the Harpazo of the Bride of Christ. You'll still be taken out when Christ pulls the Church off the earth. But where your error comes in is telling people that Harpazo "theory" came about in the late 1800's by John Darby...and the making the statement "The disciples of the disciples NEVER taught a "Harpazo"! Let me inform you that 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18, the Apostles earliest book, dated 51 A.D. was written by an Apostle of Jesus Christ and not John Darby! This guy Hank H. Is telling you wrong. Paul wrote 1 Thessalonians and sent it to the church and about six months later in 52 A.D. he sent 2 Thessalonians to the church there. I want you to go to Revelation chapter 19, read it real carefully and to see when the Christian Church returns with Christ at the Second Coming. In order for the church to return James it has to be up there. Hanks got it wrong!
Question: If the rapture was not true, why would one be left in the field and one be taken, etc? I don't think anyone will be worrying about working in the field in the middle of the great tribulation. It will be chaos.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found? In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh During the Feast Of Trumpets 100 trumpets are blown and the last trump that Paul is referring to when it comes to the rapture of the Church is the last trump that is blown during the Feast Of Trumpets it's NOT the seventh trumpet that is blown in the book of Revelation. The day of Christ is the rapture of the Church and the day of the Lord is the battle of Armageddon.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh says: *so the 7th trumpet in the LAST BOOK of the Bible is not the last trump?* You're NOT rightly dividing the word of truth as stated in 2 Timothy 2:15. There are dispensations in the bible and we are currently in the dispensation of the Church Age and the dispensation of the Church Age ends at the rapture of the Church. There are seven feasts of Israel and they are prophetic and Jesus at his first coming fulfilled the first four. The final three feasts will be fulfilled during Jesus' second coming. The Feast Of Trumpets is the next feast that Jesus is going to fulfill and during the feast of trumpets 100 trumpets are blown and the last trump that is blown during a feast of trumpets is called the last trump. Paul was referring to a trumpet being blown during the Feast Of Trumpets when he stated the last trump for the rapture of the Church. *Daniel is a bible expert* I'm NOT a bible expert, but I do rightly divide the word of truth as the bible instructs me to do and I also have the Holy Spirit confirming the truth of what I stated above. *with no content on his site.* What does having no content on my site have to do with me stating the truth or not? I'm following what the bible teaches in a rightly divided manner as it instructs me to do and when I do a pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church is clearly seen. The bible states that people will fall away from the truth in the last days NOT come to know the truth and the bible has always taught a pre-Tribulation rapture and that proves that people are falling away from that teaching in the last days. Truth always comes out first and then the lies attack it, so what are you going to believe? The truth that I stated to you above or the lie that you have chosen to believe and have fallen away from the truth by doing so.
@@danielblair4413 Dispensation comes from the same word as dispense where the word dispenser comes from. Ever hear of a soap dispenser? Nothing to do with a period of time. Moses was GIVEN the law and Christ GAVE us grace. Websters 1828 dictionary (He knew Biblical Greek and Hebrew and 20 languages) "Distribution; the act of dealing out to different persons or places; The dealing of God to his creatures; the distribution of good and evil, natural or moral, in the divine government. That which is dispensed or bestowed; a system of principles and rites enjoined; as the Mosaic LAW dispensation; the gospel GRACE dispensation; including, the former the Levitical law and rites; the latter the scheme of redemption by Christ." nothing about periods of time. of course you think the antichrist Jews are God's chosen people when Jesus called them the children of the devil. Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews - Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. 48 Then answered the Jews Then answered the Jews Then answered the Jews pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL. Jesus is an antisemite to zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be "christians"
This is the first time I watched you and I must say I really like how you kept answering difficult questions straight on. You never went round and round in circles like I've seen preachers sometimes do when confronted with a difficult question. I have always struggled to find pre-trib rapture. It is of paramount importance to understand that us born again ones will in fact be right here during tribulation. You made the point that God is well able to protect us (if in the Philadelphia church) from certain aspects of tribulation like He did for the Israelites in Egypt which I think is helpful for people who are so afraid of tribulation that they follow teachers who tickle their ears with pretrib. Thank you.
One must allow for the fact that the tribulation will be of such force and intensity that most parish unless the very hand of God stops it.The purpose of the Tribluation AKA "Jacob's Trouble" is those known as the earth dwellers who reject Jesus Christ will be dwelt with. Rev. 3:10 "..I will KEEP you from the hour of trial that comes upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth." Romans 5:6 "....We shall be saved from the wrath through Him" 1 Thess. 1:10 "...even Jesus who delievers us from the wrath to come." 1 Thess.5:9 " ...for God did not appoint us to wrath..." now...finally ask yourself...who exactly are the mortals walking into the millennial kingdom AFTER the rapture...the Church MUST be gone at this point because of the wedding feast in heaven...sooo when exactly did they leave? 5 minutes b4? Or like Paul said in a twinkling of an eye? The Body of Christ is NOT mentioned after Rev.4 thru Rev. 19...the ENTIRE time of the trib.....WHY?
@@johncampbell829 The great tribulation has already been fulfilled, and was in fact at the end of the Old Covenant age of Israel in 70 AD when apostate Old Covenant Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in an act of divine judgement. Biblical eschatology was only ever concerned with Old Covenant Israel, not with the New Covenant church age. Daniel 7, 14 says the New Covenant age is eternal, and Matthew 10, 7 says it was "at hand" in the 1st century generation.
@born conservative If you want to follow the doctrines of John Nelson Darby who invented the rapture in 1830, then promoted by the Plymouth Brethren who emigrated to the US, then that's up to you, but it's never going to happen. The rapture is followed by Zionists who are deluded into believing the modern state of Israel is somehow connected to Old Covenant Israel. Old Covenant Israel was a theocratic entity who were living under Torah. Modern day "Israel" is a political entity that was stolen by the Khazars from Eastern Europe. One has got nothing to do with the other. A Zionist is not a true Christian as Jesus said, "my kingdom is not of this world", meaning the kingdom is spiritual in nature and not a worldly geopolitical kingdom, which is what Zionists are waiting for. Zionists were waiting for the "end of the world" in 1988 (40 years after 1948), but nothing happened. The truth is Jesus' Parousia was in 70 AD (40 years after crucifixion in 30 AD). That was the year that apostate Old Covenant Jerusalem and the temple were demolished. It looks like you've missed the second coming.😂 By the way, 2 Thessalonians was written to the 1st century Saints who were going through tribulation and persecution. It was written to you or anyone else in the 21st century. What persecution are you going through? You won't discuss the rapture with anyone because you know it's bollocks.
How would Hank answer the issue of Rev.2 21-22 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. It appears to me the inference made is if they should repent He would not cast them into great tribulation. Accepting that means what it says then I'm curious about how Jesus will come for His bride right before God's wrath is poured out in Rev 15 as believed by many but enable the repentant christian to circumnavigate the previous apocalyptic chapters. No. That,s not the case either cause Satan's wrath is poured out on the church. If He's keeping us from the great tribulation how can that be.
Your question will be passed on to Hank. Never published on Revelation 2:21-23. Why would not the Church in Thyatira circa AD 67 be excluded from a situation wherein a members were being misled by false prophet like the Jezebel of the OT? Could not God work in history to judge the false the prophetess? Could not that divine judgment have happen in the Church in Thyatira, and those who followed that false prophetess suffered great tribulation? Could not those who remained faithful been kept from suffering the sufferings of the prophetess and her devotes, like Moses and the children of Israel were protected by the plagues God poured out upon the Egyptians?
@@BibleAnswerMan The letters to the seven churches have been understood to be representative of the church throughout the age and are prophetic in the sense they send warning to the churches at the time near His coming. As He is unveiling the apocalyptic writings of the prophets the usage of the terminology "great tribulation" would be consistent. The only time that terminology is used is when applying to the time of Jacob's trouble. Another example your aware of is in the letter to church of Philadelphia "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
a very good interview. it indicates very clearly how people can get so entangled with ' last days ' speculations. I've always been unable to see in the thesalonians 4 passage how it relates to a rapture .
Dispensationalists *try* to get the 7 year tribulation teaching out of Scripture from a very bad interpretation of Daniels “70th week” in Daniel 9. But you have to be really good at Bible gymnastics to pull it off.
When the eschatology of Scripture is seen as redemptive--rather than escapist--the idea of a rapture becomes less plausible. Will the Gospel ultimately triumph?
Andy McCurdy it’s been like this for 2000 years. Dispensationalists shouldn’t even read Revelation. They’re not gonna see the end times before they die.
1 Thes 4 is a post-trib event with a resurrection. The resurrection is for the Millennium. One taken, one left (Luke 17, Matt 24) is a pre-trib rapture without a resurrection. Life is normal in the one taken event because they are eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building, and getting married. Those activities will be GREATLY diminished at the end of the GREAT tribulation. Life is normal, there is a flash of light and we leave our flesh on earth (Luke 17:37, Matt 24:28)! One TAKEN is translated from "paralambano" in Greek which means to take and receive, not take and throw away. Lot and Noah were rescued. Maranatha!
Rom. 5:9; I Thess. 1:10; 5;9; Rev. 3:10 the church is not going thru the 7yr tribulation. Matt. 24 deals with Isreal and those that miss the rapture. Jesus never talked about the rapture because it was a mystery. I Cor. 15:51-58; I Thess. 4:13-18
bibleway 79 - The Church has been going through great tribulation since it began almost 2000 years ago. The scriptures you cite are taken out of context. Try reading the entire chapter, not just the verse.
Spot on 79! There are many deceivers on this page. In the video, at 1:03 Hank reads the scripture wrong, people have to know the difference between a "trump" and a "trumpet", because the trumps are short sounds and a trumpet is a long sound. "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." Before any of the "trumpets" are sounded we are raptured, the last "trump" occurs before the first "trumpet".
More specifically one will be taken to death and the other left behind to live. Please see this article… www.equip.org/article/whos-been-left-behind/#christian-books-3
I find it fascinating many claim life is normal (eating, drinking, etc.) when Jesus returns in the one taken, one left verses but then say it is a post-trib event. Everybody is hiding in a cave (Rev 6:15-17) and freaking out (Luke 21:26) at the end of the great tribulation. Eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building and getting married will be greatly diminished in the end. I think the dispensationalists got it backwards. One taken is pre-trib event and 1 Thes 4 is a post-trib event. 1 Thes 4 has a resurrection. One taken does not. There is only one resurrection (John 11:24, 6:39-54, Rev 20:4-6). The whole notion that Jesus returned in 70 A.D. is just silly. Maranatha!
@@BibleAnswerManI like your interpretation of the disciples intent of "Where Lord?" I believe they were asking where they will be taken as well. I doubt the disciples were worried about the wicked however. They were asking about themselves. I doubt Jesus was saying an idiom or anything else symbolic. I think He was saying we will leave our flesh on earth. Our bodies will not float up into the air and disappear. If the eating, drinking, etc., one taken, one left is literal, why not go all the way? It is the same process today when we die. We leave our flesh on earth and our spirit/soul is taken to heaven.
Very well said my brother. God bless you for speaking the truth....truth, which is His word through the Holy Spirit and through the word of God ( the Bible) that which sanctifies us and sets us free for all bondages of deceptive falsehood.
Hank hanegraaff how do you reconcile Matthew 24:29,30,31 Mark 13:24,25,26,27 John 17:15 Revelation 3:10. Versus 1 Corinthians 15:51,52,53,54. 1 Thessalonians 4:13,14,15,16,17. Hank Hanegraaff how do you reconcile Luke 3:18. Acts 1:20,21,22,23,24,25,26. Versus Acts 22:6-16 Acts 26:12-18. Acts 9:1-19 Acts 26:12-18. Using many words such as Olivet discourse, eschatology, metaphor which are not in the Bible gives more confusion than understanding.
@JaimeCunanan-vn1eh Hank explains the way to understand the Olivet Discourse (Matt 24) and the Book of Revelation along with other end time passages of the Scriptures in this article… Apocalypse When? Why Most End-time Teaching Is Dead Wrong - www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ Surprisingly, there is not a single verse which talks about a pretribulation rapture.
Like Hank, I also don't find support in Scripture for the recent teaching of Pre-trib rapture. However from my own personal understanding of Scripture I can see how a Pre-wrath rapture might be the more plausible view. But please don't confuse pre-trib with pre-wrath, they are not referring to the same thing.
Hank said it as Scripture says it, there is NO rapture, heaven comes to earth as it did in Eden, as it did in Jacob's dream about angels ascending and descending, as it did when Christ was on the earth and as it will ultimately when the earth is restored and where we will live and reign with Christ forever, that is why we pray "Thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven"...grace and peace to you.
also, where does the Bible teach that there will be 7 years before Jesus returns to rule and where does it teach that there will NOT be a new heaven and a new earth? Jesus established his kingdom on the day of Pentecost! Jesus's kingdom is the people (church- Ekklesia is a Greek word defined as “a called-out assembly or congregation.” Ekklesia is commonly translated as “church” in the New Testament.) If you are "scripturally a Christian you are already in the Kingdom and already living in Eternity!
There is no "pre-trib rapture" anywhere in the Bible. Jesus returns once, just as described in 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. That's when the "dead in Christ" and those who "are alive and remain" are "caught up" together to meet Him "in the air." I've heard many "pre-trib" people insist God wouldn't allow His people to go through the "tribulation" which they seem to assume is God's wrath, but that is an incorrect assumption. The tribulation Jesus spoke of is over long before God's wrath is poured out and I'll show you how we can know this: ⚫ Jesus said the sun and moon would be darkened "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29) ⚫ The sun and moon are darkened at the opening of the sixth seal, as clearly stated in Revelation 6:12,13. ⚫ Therefore the tribulation - whatever it is - must be *over* or ending as the sixth seal is being opened. ⚫ Jesus, however, returns at the "last trump" (1 Cor 15:52, also 1 Thess 4:16). The "last trump" is the seventh of the seven trumpets that make up the *_seventh_* seal (Revelation 8:1 through 11:15). When He returns the dead in Christ are resurrected immortal, and those who are physically alive (and in Christ) receive immortality. Then, together, they rise to meet Christ "in the air." ⚫ Given that the sixth seal comes _before_ the seventh seal (and the 7th seal's seven trumpets) it is obvious that the "tribulation" is over well before Jesus returns and gathers both the dead - and the alive - in Christ. *The sixth seal, and the first six trumpets of the seventh seal must all occur after the tribulation, but before Jesus returns at the "last trump."* The tribulation is not the wrath of God: the wrath of God is poured much later, upon those who accepted the mark of the beast: "And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image." (Revelation 16:1,2) So, when is the beast active? During the sixth trumpet of the _seventh_ seal the beast kills the two witnesses (Revelation 11:7). During the seventh trumpet of the seventh seal "the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our Lord, and of his Christ" (Rev 11:15). During the seventh trumpet - specifically as part of the seven vials of God's wrath - the beast and its armies are gathered (Revelation 16:12-16) at Armageddon, then destroyed in "in the battle of that great day of God almighty" (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:11-21). So, where are the Christians when the vials of God's wrath are poured out? They are with Christ: they rose to meet Him "in the air" as part of the seventh trumpet. What are they doing "in the air"? They are being spared from the wrath of God. And it appears that they are enjoying "the marriage supper of the Lamb"; that marriage supper is mentioned in Revelation 19:7-9, just before Jesus destroys the beast and its gathered armies.
Theologically this sounds fine on the surface, but through a thorough study of the subject, long before John Nelson Darby , wrote on the subject, the Apostle Paul in First Thess, 4 and 5 and Jesus own words found in John 14. The consistent theme that "God has not appointed the follower of Christ to wrath, that is the bride of Christ; which you most certainly will find as a recurring statement throughout the Pauline Epistles. The 2nd Advent is when Christ come back and place His feet on the Mt. of Olives and the text says with the saints. The Harpazo in First Thess. 4 is atmospheric event. Questiion How did the saints get there in the first place, when the text in Rev. 19 says that they shall return with Christ. Hank Hanegraaff, what has happened to you? CRI is just not been the same since the days of Dr. Walter Martin, in whom I used to listen to everyday. Calvary Chapels and Chuck Smith are right on. There are many good Bible teachers on this subject that can objectively be listen too. Pastor Stagner, Jack Hibbs, J.D. Farag, Amir Tasarfati Chuck Messler, Bill Salus and many more. As Dr. Martin use to say 'just because the tern trinitas is not found in the Biblical text, doesn't mean that the biblical text does not teach that there is person who is the son who is called God, and that there is a person who is the Spirit who is called God and there is a person who is called the Father that is called God. Things equal to the same thing are equal to each other. As the old Reductio ad absurdum seems to say.
Your reading your ideas into the Text (eisegesis). Were Noah and his family members appointed unto wrath during the Flood? Were the Hebrews appointed unto wrath during the Passover, while in Egypt? Well, neither will God's kids be appointed unto wrath during the Great Trouble. Ultimately, on Judgment Day, His children will not be appointed unto [eternal] wrath in the Lake of Fire.
@@IndianaJoe0321 indeed! The WORLD WILL SUFFER TRIBULATION . AND some shall be made white in those days , some put to death , and sleep for a short while , and others when they are put to death , their works fallow them , meaning they are raised and become warriors in the heavenly realm , but those ELECT they keep the commandments , and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ , no harm will come to them . They dwell amongst us . They have no part of mainstream churchanty .the WRATH of GOD is the second death.
Disagree with Hank based on what the Bible teaches, if you are convinced he is wrong. Just because Dispensationalism is the prevailing view now does not mean it is biblical. Read some of the old commentators that predate John Darby and his odd innovations and you will find no such doctrines being taught. By the way, the book is Revelation. Read the first verse of the book slowly and carefully without reading anything into it, and reflect on what it really says, not what someone tells you.
Au Contraire, on a deep level, dispensationalism is one grand deception. Sorry Darby, sorry Scofield, you have been thoroughly exposed in your evil. Thank goodness for the internet, or I would have believed this nonsense my entire life.
If we don't go to heaven what abodes are Jesus preparing? Why did he say that where I am you may be? If we are changed and remain on earth what happens to us when God destroys the wicked on earth. Are we standing around watching?
@nikloff ~ These articles will address your questions on heaven, the afterlife, and the future resurrection, which is the blessed hope. www.equip.org/articles/do-believers-receive-resurrected-bodies-when-they-die-or-when-christ-returns-/ www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
Oh yes of course, this is a vision of Christ coming back to earth to judge the wicked and be "glorified in his saints" and "admired of all them that believe"( a special honor among believers) Then Paul continues to pray that God would "count you worthy of this calling", just as Jesus told his followers to pray to be counted worthy of rapture, so as to be in his army to come back and judge the wicked at the end of the tribulation
@@craiglabarbera4134 Agree completely, BOTH of those things will happen first. Not sure how people don't see that, it is clear in the text... Will we go through the Trib? Idk, but the more I look and READ it looks like we just may... I have always been taught pre-trib but not sure scripture supports this at all…
@@craiglabarbera4134I pray you are correct. I read the book of Revelation twice though a few weekends ago and didn’t see anything “clearly stating” a pre trib rapture and I was looking for it… Either way our eternity is in HEAVEN with The KING!
the resurrection of the dead,, the conversion to incorruptible bodies, and meeting Jesus in the clouds (1Thess 4:17) is the rapture. Hank is conflating the rapture with the timing of it (pre-trib). it's possible for rapture to be true and pre-trib to be false. so just because pre-trib is not in the Bible doesn't mean rapture is also not in the Bible; this is faulty logic
Daniel 12:1-7 speaks of the resurrection just like 2 Thess 2 does, but it doesn't speak of anyone being "left behind" to face the antichrist. Matthew 24:26-28 speaks to the manner of which He will return, all eyes will see Him in contrast to Him being found only here or there. 1 Thess. 4:13-18 also speaks of the resurrection as being a powerful event that no one can mistake. Revelation 12:14 states nothing of a resurrection or "rapture". Who was the woman with 12 stars and a sun and moon from which the male child (Christ) came from? Think of Joseph's dream. None of these passages speak of the church going to heaven for seven years while an antichrist wreaks havoc on earth, them returning to setup a 1,000 kingdom in Jerusalem.
Tony M, Daniel 12:1-4 describes the rapture (resurrection and glorification of saints) and what some people will do afterwards (understand prophesy and flee). But why would Jews flee after witnessing the rapture? Because Daniel 12:7 and Revelation 12:14 tell us that the rapture will happen near the middle of the 7 year tribulation, and Daniel 12:11 and Revelation 13 tell us that the manifestation of the Antichrist and abomination will happen at the exact mid-point, so it must happen soon afterwards. And remember that Matthew 24:15-25 advises whomever reads the prophesy and lives in Judea to flee immediately upon seeing the abomination in Daniel setup at the temple. Of course, these prophesies presume a new temple must have been build in Jerusalem, which means that Israel must have re-established the Mosaic _covenant_ that required a new temple. So why would Jews who recently went through the trouble of re-establishing the Mosaic covenant bother to read the book of Matthew and thus be ready to understand and flee? Because everyone will be looking for answers after witnessing the rapture. God preordained that the warning they needed would be in the first book of the New Testament, the gospel specifically written to a Jewish audience, when they will be looking for answers for what had just happened. And regarding people being left behind, Matthew 24:26-28 describes the rapture in metaphorical terms of eagles gathering people, and that metaphor is repeated in Luke 17:22-37 where it answers the question of where people go when one is taken and another left behind. And that same metaphor is used in Revelation 12:14 which links back to Daniel 12:1-7 through the use of the Aramaic phrase ‘a time, times and half a time’. By the way, Matthew 24:26-28 describes a time when there are mere rumors that the Messiah is somewhere on earth but has not yet manifested, and since we know from Daniel, 2 Thessalonians and Revelation that the Antichrist will rule the world once he manifests, verses 26-28 must describe a time before verses 15-25, which occurs after he manifests. And since the rapture is described in verses 26-28, this alone proves the rapture will occur before the great tribulation starts in the middle of the week.
Tony M, The woman in the vision in Revelation 12:1 represents Israel. The child she gives birth to who ascends to heaven in verse 5 represents Jesus. The woman in verse 6 who afterwards flees for 3.5 years represents the early church in Judea who fled after the sign Jesus gave in Luke 21 was fulfilled. This happened in 66 AD when Romans surrounded Jerusalem then left and didn’t return to encircle and destroy the city and temple until 3.5 years later. So the early church in Judea had 3.5 years to prepare and flee the region, and they stayed away for 3.5 years (just as Revelation 12:6 describes) because that’s how long the war continued, during which time the Romans were killing or enslaving any Jews they caught there.
Bible History Science - I agree with you on Revelation 12. It is rare to see someone on TH-cam who acknowledges that this was not about something that would happen in the far future, but about Christ when He came the first time. I have seen numerous videos of people claiming that this about constellations and the actual sun and moon.
This is all wrong. Listen to Adrian Rogers or J. Vernon McGee teach on this to get real teaching on the rapture. He is confusing the rapture and the second coming of Christ
there is no rapture, Only at the Last day are they changed. No rapture to save you from destruction. so annoying listening to these Baptist rapture lies
Good grief we are supposed to be waiting on Christ to return to the earth. Not listening to theories of man's minds. Not one single scripture says anyone leaves earth unless they die first.
@@pcooke9865 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS to meet the Lord in the AIR : and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The word AIR GREEK WORD 109. aer ah-ayr' from aemi (to breathe unconsciously, i.e. respire; by analogy, to blow); "air" (as naturally circumambient):--air. Compare 5594. 5590. psuche psoo-khay' from 5594; breath, i.e. (by implication) spirit, abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only; thus distinguished on the one hand from 4151, which is the rational and immortal soul; and on the other from 2222, which is mere vitality, even of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew 5315, 7307 and 2416):--heart (+ -ily), life, mind, soul, + us, + you. THE WORD CLOUDS is an idiom or expression Paul used (Hebrews 12 :1 ) Other examples we might recognize cloud of locust or cloud of dust . Meaning gathered in a large group It does not mean clouds in the sky.
@@awordofwisdomwithcharlotte4670 You said that not one single Scripture says we leave unless we die first. What part of alive and remain are you not understanding?
Jesus is coming back!!! Keep watching it could be now or soon or later the important part is to watch and be ready. I know im ready im very tired of evil death sickness decease famine hate killing murder the curse of satan. I hope it's soon I cant wait
@@paulo7507 im still waiting. Still believing that Jesus is coming back. With all that's been going on lately it seems like it could be really close to the Rapture. James 5:7Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
@Patrick Gragg2 Peter 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. Patrick Gragg you are a scoffer. You are denying what the Bible says. The Bible clearly says those who are saved will meet the Lord in the air.
There is a judgement Luke 17:22-37. Noah and Lot were taken out of harms way. The folks that were left behind in the flood and fire were destroyed. The word "taken" in greek is paralambanó which means "to receive from." Believers will be received from the earth but we leave our flesh behind (verse 37). Compare Luke 17 with Luke 21. Jesus does not come back to earth in 17 and He does come back to earth in 21. Two different comings. Maranatha!
I dont agree with Hank the scripture says we will meet the Lord in the air 👆 👉 1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 👉 in the clouds, in the air. Hank cant read the scripture.
Ever wondered why it says in Acts 11:19 > Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only. The apostles were merely obeying what Jesus commanded them - go not to the Gentiles but only to the lost sheep of Israel. It's only after Paul's conversion that the gospel of grace "to the Gentiles also" was preached. Rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15) makes perfect sense because it explains what seems as some apparent contradictions between the 4 synoptic gospels and Paul's gospel. The Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven (on earth) was preached by Jesus to the Jews of those days to demonstrate and reassure them of a coming fulfilment of the promise of the Father to the patriarchs and prophets at the appointed time. (Christ's second coming is at a time that is indeterminate to all, even the Son). Mark 13:32-33 > But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. It's also true that the prophetic programme for Israel and the Jews has been postponed after the stoning of Stephen (the sign of the rejection of the Holy Spirit) and particularly after the mystery hidden in God [1 Corinthians 2:7 & Ephesians 3:4-6 ] from the beginning concerning the Gentiles has been revealed through Apostle Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. At His second coming He will establish His Millennium reign from Jerusalem (after He judges the nations that come up against Israel) and He will rule through David on his throne over Israel and the world. He will also fulfill the Ezekiel prophecy concerning the dry bones coming to life in the land of Israel when He brings to life the Old Testament Jewish Believers (including the Patriarchs and Prophets) that predate His incarnation, and sprinkle them with water and give them a new spirit i.e. born again, with water and spirit [Ezekiel 36:24-26 ] and they will reign with Christ for a thousand years. (the "born again" above are "part of the first resurrection" and therefore have no part in the second death). He will both purify their lips and also restore the purity of the Hebrew language and over a generation or so, Hebrew will be the universal language of governmental administration. Other languages will fade away and thus the prophecy that "tongues will cease" will be fulfilled.(1 Corinthians 13:8) The rapture teaching hovering around the onset of the great tribulation or in that period is based on two or three assumptions that are not really tenable for multiple reasons and ignoring verses that point away from those assumptions. John 17:15, 20 > I pray "not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil"... Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through "their" word; (though "I pray not ... take them out of the world" is directly addressed to the Jews at that time, it has general applicability). 2 Thessalonians 1:4-9 > ... patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: ... you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be "punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord", and from the glory of His power; (Contrary to most preachings the Great Tribulation is not the wrath of God but the work of the Antichrist and Satan - and in any event Paul states we are to endure persecutions and tribulations; the wrath of God that Believers will be spared from is the everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord at His third coming and for that alone we should be grateful). 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 > I knew a man in Christ ... one caught "up to the third heaven". And I knew such a man ... How that he was "caught up into paradise", ... Paul narrating the vision states that he (probably John) was caught "up to" the third heaven but that he was caught "up into" paradise. Notice the difference in words "up to" vs "up into". Upto means close to get a peek but still outside heaven while into paradise means inside paradise. After the resurrections on the last day of the Millennium reign, this the First Earth will pass away and thereafter the New Earth will come down from Heaven and God will dwell with Believers for eternity. - Revelation 21:1-2. John 14:2-3 > In my Father's house are many mansions: ... if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto Myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. ["a place" is referring to incorruptible covering if rightly read along with 2 Corinthians 5:1-8] 2 Corinthians 5: 1-4 > For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, ... eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: ... For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 > For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The above verses do not state that He will come to take you to Heaven; on the contrary it means that where He is (on the New Earth) at the appointed time according to His purpose and plan, you also will be. He does not operate a shuttle service to take Believers to Heaven on their death. Remember Enoch is not in heaven else the Word of God will not declare in John 3:12-13 > ... And no man hath ascended up to Heaven, but He that came down from Heaven, even the Son of man which is in Heaven. Besides, it says in Psalm 115:16 > The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath He given to the children of men. There will be no mass ascension of Believers to Heaven even at His second coming for multiple reasons according to the Scriptures e.g. (i) in John 6:39,40 & 44, three times He clearly states "raise up at the Last Day." (ii) in 1 Corinthians 15:52 it says " In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, "at the last trump": for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (iii) in Job 14: 12-14, it says "So man lieth down, and riseth not: "till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep". O that Thou wouldest hide me in the grave, ... until Thy wrath be past, that Thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! ... all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come." [from the corruptible to the incorruptible]. Finally, at the end of the millennium at His third coming, Satan, Death and Hell are all cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10, 14) and then there will be the resurrections - (i) Believers will be gathered unto Him and Resurrected to Life (part of first resurrection) as promised and (ii) all others (atheists, agnostics, religion followers) to the Resurrection to Judgement when He will judge them not according to what mortal Man considers as good works but on His standard of righteousness and it's possible that He may well have mercy or compassion "on some of them" e.g. Romans 9:15-16 > For He saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. As one who believes that all of the Word of God is Truth, in context and time, this is the only possible way that has no contradictions.
Wow! Thanks Hank! I have struggled to find any verse supporting a pre-trib rapture myself. And being surrounded by this belief from many denominations that seem to be intolerant of any deviation from this view has been a lonely slog. Thanks again.
Edward Elliott True. I have found that if you try to walk in obedience to Christ, it is a very lonely path because Christ's way is in fact radical considering it is so contrary to the ways people do things on any given day. When you choose to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow Jesus daily, it is lonely. Thankfully He is present with us always.
@Anyta No! They are sealed by the blood of the Lamb of God. Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, *till* we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. {Revelation 7:3} It does not read till we have raptured the servants of God...
I think the caller wanted to know which scripture verses is used by many churches today that brings them to teach the pre-tribulation rapture, whether it's in the scriptures or not.
@Faithful_Watchman Surprisingly, there are 0 verse that inform them. There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture - the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millenniums.
@@BibleAnswerMan: I agree that scripture does not support a pre-tribulation rapture. My point (thus the reason for my initial post) is to point out the caller, more than likely, just wanted to know which scripture verses are used by churches today that brings them to teach the pre-tribulation rapture, even though it' not in scripture. Personally, I know, because I'm well-versed in scripture, but I think that was what the caller wanted to know.
@@BibleAnswerManHebrews 9:28 so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many and UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR the SECOND TIME without sin unto salvation Notice ONLY those who are looking for him will see him, if you are expecting a post-tribulation rapture you will not be looking for him now, we were told early on to watch and wait for you know not when the master will return, he didn't say give it some time and later off there in the distant future you can start looking for me at some later date, after you see all these troubles come upon the earth BUT IN Revelation 1:7 every eye shall see him and every kindred will wail because of him....(Out of fear and grief, wail is not a happy word) If this is your supposed post-tribulation rapture why wouldn't you be happy to see him? Why would the church wail, isn't this their rescue? And notice every eye sees him coming on the clouds, not just the few who are looking for him as in Hebrews 9:28. As in the days of Noah, people are eating and drinking and they're giving in marriage and it's business as usual life goes on at it's regular pace..... But when he sets his foot on the Mount of Olives at the end of the tribulation and a great earthquake occurs, the Earth is a ruinous heap, there is blood standing in a megiddo valley as high as the horses bridal stretching for 200 miles, there's no breathable air there's no drinkable water there is no food 2/3 of the Earth's population is dead and All that remains on the surface of the Earth are the enemies of God and the remnant of Israel which he has come to save....
At 1:03 you read the scripture incorrectly. It should be "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." This proves the pre-trib rapture. There are short trumpet sounds called "trumps" and there are long sounds known as "trumpets", the trumps come before the trumpets, and the last "trump" is before the first "trumpet", so all before the first trumpet, at the last trump, also called the "Tekiah Gedolah", we are raptured.
@@slojogojo2766 Actually, for those who aren't his, God is the author of confusion, and if you aren't his Child, you will not understand. There are many that aren't his that argue against the pre-trib rapture, because they just don't see it. I understand, God made it that way. The Bible actually says this, and so do other preachers. If you want to look up the name of the "last trump" you can, it is called the Tekiah Gedolah.
@@slojogojo2766 The pre-trib rapture is not confused, it is the Blessed Hope. If you believe in a post-trib rapture, your blessed hope is decapitation.
At the last trump ALL are changed as u said.. doesn't say anyone leaves earth.. in fact unless we die first,we don't leave earth.. there is not a single scripture that says otherwise. God uses trumps to teach there are 7.. at the 6th one satan is kicked to earth and PRETENDS TO BE GOD. At the 7th one Christ returns to the earth,all flesh is gone. Those who worship satan in his role as false christ,get God's wrath. Those who don't are gathered to Christ on earth.. Christ said AFTER tribulation not before or during,He returns to the earth.
The rapture is going to happen very soon. Many of us have had multiple rapture dreams from the Lord and they are all vivid. Pretribulation rapture is 100% accurate. Jesus is coming very soon, get right with God.
One got even the date of the Rapture, when it did not happen, he said, the Lord lied to him. You are deceived (2. Thess 2:1-4). Jesus (Mat 24:29-31) and Paul taught Post-trib
No Rapture. Those taken first are destroyed, the angels gathering the evil people and unbelievers. Those that are left will be gathered together for Jesus' flock. Matthew 13: 36-43. But we will all go through tribulation and trials. The only people being taken up are the 144,000, 12,000 from each Tribe of Israel. ( Those may be the babies who were killed for Moses and Jesus' birth)
How is it possible to remove the translation of 1 Cor. 15:52 for the Last Trumpet of Revelation 11:15-18? How is it also possible to remove the Marriage of Christ from its connection with the Destruction of Jerusalem- Matthew 22:1-8 & Revelation 19:1-8? See more on Atavist Biblical Church site. God bless you.
I think 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 is so clear about when Jesus will come and take us! Why don’t even mention that in your explanation! Thanks for the program though!
It seems to me that the “gathering together unto him” (2 Thessalonians 2:1) does not necessarily uphold the idea of a rapture of the church. This fragment of scripture is further explained as let not you be shaken, troubled or deceived but be thankful and stand fast to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. God bless.
It isn't in the Bible ... Judgement starts at the pulpit... I state my case with Ezekiel 13 ... I'm against those who teach my children to fly to save their souls ... I will snatch them from your hands and you will know I AM the Lord your God .... Read it for yourself ... Then go to 2 Thessalonians 2: 3 Let no man deceive you.... God Bless you and keep you safe ....
Scripture is written for our example. When you see it in scripture then it can happen again, nothing new under the sun. RAPTURE . ENOCH WAS FOUND FAITHFUL IN HIS GENERATION AND GOD TOOK HIM THAT HE MIGHT NOT SEE DEATH. Gen 4:17 also Hebrews 11, Noah was Enochs Grandson, methuselah ( which means when he dies it will come or judgment. SOME WILL BE TAKEN SOME WILL BE LEFT ( JESUS SAID HOPE YOUR COUNTED WORTHY TO MISS IT)
Question: Question: When you miss a train or an airplane or a boat... do you say ''Ah... I have been taken aboard'' or ''Oh dear! They've gone without me, and I have been left behind!'' Clearly, we say the latter (''''Oh dear! They've gone without me, and I have been left behind!'' ) One can easily imagine those very words were said by those LEFT BEHIND outside of Noah's Ark. IN CONTEXT, Jesus' words ''... the one shall be taken, the other left behind'' clearly imply that being TAKEN - ie: entering into or being taken into the safe place made by God - is a GOOD THING. We WANT to be taken on board the Ark... or taken into Heaven to be with Christ in His celestial Jerusalem. Further, why did Christ promise his Faithful that He was making rooms in Heaven for His faithful? When would these rooms ever get used, if the Faithful are only destined to rise into the air... and then return to EARTH to reign with Christ on Earth? If these rooms are never to be used, then this is tantamount to saying Christ is a liar. What are the rooms in Heaven being used for? Occasional rent when we visit the Celestial City?
Since my comment was deleted...true, rapture does not appear by name...nor do other key biblical concepts (trinity, bible, etc)...Some good works on the subject "The Rapture Question" (Walvoord) "The Rapture"(D Stewart)......"50 reasons to support a pre-tribulation rapture" (Walvoord)...my point, alot of serious thinking was done long before this radio broadcast.
Bob... Rapture is the result of the conferences held at Albury Cricle and Powers court. with Margret MacDonald's theory of the two taken's (aka Rapture) thrown in. Think of it as dispensationalism and rapture. It was contrived by protestants standing against the Catholic Church as well as the government run churches of Ireland, Scotland, and England. The doctrine was strongly believed by J N Darby and the Plymouth Brethren, which is how it spread to America..... Its now the mainstream doctrine of the Baptist and Methodist church systems in America.
@@IndianaJoe0321 Its not my teaching, its specifically what is written in our Fathers word... There is no rapture written there that edifice is purely a doctrine concocted by mankind... Its a doctrine based upon the need to judge and control other humans, stating in its wake a multitude of falsehoods which shall cause people to fall upon their knees and worship Satan himself. The greatest being there will be a seven year time of great evil upon the earth, which "The Church" avoids via a rapture., when the texts state that 7 years found in Daniel, were shortened (Mark 13 & Rev 9 & Rev 11) to 5mo and 42 mo, and that Satan comes peaceably spreading the spoils and the wealth (Daniel 11) ............ Satan will be here upon this earth proclaiming himself to be Immanuel (2 Thessalonians 2)........ And those who espouse rapture will love him totally and completely....... That is the whole point of the test (also referred to as a Tribulation), to see if flesh humans will fall for the great deception of Satan. ...... Rapturists will refute that truth until the two witnesses (Elijah and Moses) stand up upon their feet, after three and one half days of appearing to be dead (Rev 11)...... Its not my teaching ... it is the written word ... Sorry if it refutes your assumptions.... it does the same for many many people who have fallen in the trap of deception.
Someone has told you all that stuff, @@danitewatchman6538. It's just fresh (150 yrs old) ideas shoehorned into the Text. None of it is in the Bible. My point is that nobody can read The Bible and derive that Pre-Tribulation idea on their own. Nobody. It must be taught to the reader.
You are wrong dawg. 1. It is a metaphor for an inner spiritual transformation of constant intimacy with the Lord. 2. It happens immediately after the Tribulation of those days, the Lord said Himself. 3. It is without Wrath. Do you not believe that God can protect His people even if they are on an earth also inhabited by the wicked receiving Wrath ?
It's so sad that many don't believe what the Bible actually says. The Bible uses the word Harpazo, which means taken away by force, which the word Harpazo in Latin means Rapturus which we take the word Rapture. You don't have to use the word Rapture but the word used is "taken away" which means again, taken by force same word used when God took Enoch, Elisha, and Paul to Heaven! People need to actually do their homework. Rapture didnt start with Darby, the doctrine is in the Bible just like the Trinity is in the Bible.
REv. 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. At no time in history has the church in Philidelphia been protected from any world wide hour of tempation! Hence a future event, Hence a pre-trib rapture! Easy!
But ... where is the church for most of Revelation? Why are the only saved people mentioned are those that didn't take the mark? Does that mean all Christians will either starve or be brutally murdered during tribulation?
@davefields2881 Those questions do make a pretribulation rapture difficult. But what if most of the Book of Revelation has already been fulfilled. Then the pretribulation rapture is certainly impossible. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/
@@BibleAnswerMan my time is better spent reading the Bible. What trumpet are we on now? Is there an answer to my original questions? They were in support of a pretribulation rapture.
Mr Hendergraff, what is the meaning of the last 8 chapters of Ezekie;l and the rebuilt Temple where the Levitical sacrifices are re-instated? What period of time is ezekiel describing?
We are told to be wary of those claiming Jesus has returned, and to watch out for the Antichrist, so no. What you have said is not accurate. "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. . . . At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. So, if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.” Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” Just don't go crazy with it.
It was Noah who was “taken away” from the destruction. He was set aside while the destruction was happening. I don’t know how anyone would say that it’s the people who were “taken away”, when they were clearly left there to die, they weren’t “taken” out of the scene at all. They were left right where they were to die. It is NOAH who was removed from the scenario that destroyed everyone. He was “taken away” from the turmoil. And then, when it was safe to “return”, after the destruction was over, he disembarked and returned to terra firma. I don’t know how anyone would see it the other way around.
He (Hank) usually achieves that. Near the end, he even says he doesn't see where it (rapture) is clearly stated in the Bible. But he won't rule it out , either. In other words, not a clear cut declaration either way.
Question. How will God save the Church, Christians all over the world, from His full Wrath? God always saves and protect (Lot, Noah, Moses) His People from His Wrath. The mystery of the dead being raised and the living being caught up in the clouds with the Lord. Why would God pour out His full Wrath on His people? God told Moses how to protect and save His people from His Wrath, and He also told Lot and Noah. I believe God has also told Apostle John how God will protect and save His people from His Full Wrath. I believe there is a Huge misunderstanding or confusion.
If the rapture is not taught in scripture, how can so many so-called Bible-based churches insist on it? They not only teach it, they splinter and split over myriad opinions re: various speculative details of their non-scriptural plans.
@PUAlum - This is not a popularity contest. If most students in the math class answered the math problem 1+1=3, it only means the majority got the answer to the question wrong.
@@BibleAnswerMan a term I remember from math (which was not my forte!) was proof. A frequent instruction on tests was “show your work”. No promoter of a specific position on the rapture or the millennium can do either without convoluted machinations. That alone suggests these are not central doctrines and should not cause divisions. Too many (so-called) evangelicals have majored in the minors to the harm of many.
Jesus warned to not be deceived, with many saying, "the time is near." In the same discourse, he made it clear his coming is "after the tribulation of those days..." Paul discussed this same "coming" in his Thessalonian letters. If you believe his coming is any other time, you've been deceived.
They say about 95% of north Americans are deceived by the pretrib rapture.
We will know the time😳
He comes like a thief in the night !
Be Looking , Birth Pains is upon us 🤔 look at World Weather
TH-cam : Rage of the Earth
🤔 As in the days of Noah , God Flooded the whole earth , he said he wouldn’t flood the earth Again . God has kept his promise. They would be eating and drinking
marrying and giving in marriage he Never said by Birth Pains Floods from rain melting snow and hail , millions are dying . Tornados, Hurricanes, fires , Earthquakes, mudslides , pestilence, diseases 😳 Rapture
Psalm 90 : 10 WE FLY
AWAY
1941 Hitler made the Jews ware yellow stars this is the Beginning of the last generation 2021 sept 1 became the end of 80 years for it is written four score and ten = 80 years
Rapture Soon
Start looking now
He comes like a thief
Have you been born again
Jesus Loves you
Believe on Jesus
You will be saved
Who populates the earth during the 1000 year reign ?
@@gerard1954 The Jews. Isaiah says it's the Jews who will have lives like the oak trees. What happens is they accept Jesus after he comes back and so essentially miss the resurrection of the saints. They are saved but still able to die or procreate. Jesus also said the apostles, and possibly the whole church, will sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel.
@@gerard1954 look around. You are in it.
This video was made 8 years ago...and seems to me like it's a manual for living in Today's times. I am confused about Rapture, Pre-Trib, etc. I am trying. I am in the Word. Pray for me if possible. Love you guys!
Just be ready.
The good news is that this is a secondary issue. We will not lose our salvation for not knowing the exact sequence of events during the tribulation.
@@difidon Agreed! Keep an eye out, but don't freak out...I am paraphrasing...but you know what I mean!
@Scott Spears Thank you for taking the time with that thorough response!!!
There is no rapture. God uses trumps to teach there are seven.. the sixth one satan is kicked to earth and PRETENDS TO BE GOD.. the seventh one Christ returns to the earth. It is that simple don't worship the first super natural entity u see.. wait for the true Christ.
If you love Jesus Christ it won't matter if you believe in a rapture or not. IF a rapture happens those that didn't believe in a rapture will be pleasantly surprised and those that did believe will see their belief come true. IF a rapture does not happen some people may be disappointed and wondering why. Ultimately though all of the christians will go to heaven. Rapture or no rapture is not important, being saved is.
Lightnin Luke What we believe does matter. Study Church history and the Fathers.
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I never knew you
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Once saved always saved is a false teaching just as the pre rapture is
It’s not going to be ok for those who right now believe their OUTTA HERE you’ll be primed for the mark because you weren’t ready ...don’t fool your own selfs you’ll be just like a “Peter” when it all starts going down and your still here
BESIDES what sort of “Christian” are you who would be GOOD leaving all your unsaved relations and relationships here knowing what you know....Oh wait your probably the same type of people who haven’t witnessed to them while you had time too
This does matter you have to understand what the lord is explaining to all of us
You are correct. This is not a salvation issue. Many will say it is. Or matters. Those that are weak in their faith.
Lightnin Luke no it is very important to understand what is happening and be aware of satans devices the second coming is when Jesus returns he died in the cross and he will come again that is in reference meaning one return not two or three times at the end of days
I am glad to hear someone teach who doesn't allegorize Scripture.
Thank you
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What about this verse. For GOD has not appointed us to wrath!
You can forget that as well as all other supporting scripture. He spins the entire bible!
the wrath of God is the eternal punishment for the wicked which happen at 2nd coming after the great tribulation, amenn..
Why does Paul say::51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," Why is this event he described referred to as a mystery?
How it is possible is the mystery. The dead, the living all "changed" as Jesus at the ressurection
Teachers who dismiss the rapture rescue before the great tribulation often use the lack of clear teaching about this doctrine from Jesus or in the Old Testament as proof that it must not be true, but when Paul prefaced his rapture teaching starting in 1 Corinthians 15:51 by saying ‘Behold, I show you a mystery…’ which means the rapture had been hidden before the Holy Spirit began to reveal it thru Paul. And sadly we only have a few clear sentences from Paul’s ministry about the rapture, so most of this teaching must be hidden where the Lord always hides his mysteries, in plain sight but within metaphors, parables, obscure idioms and the like.
In other words, if you’re on the bandwagon that claims the rapture must not be true because Jesus didn’t explain this doctrine in clear language, you’ve been looking in the wrong place.
He that has ears, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches, including that the Lord will keep some saints away from the time of testing that’s coming on the whole inhabited world to try everyone dwelling on earth (Rev 3:10).
Bible History Science absolutely
Bible History Science Hidden, until discovered by Charles Darby in the mid 1800s.
@@matthewvanmatre5137, Darby did rediscover it from scripture, but he wasn't the first to after the Reformation.
Bible History Science Care to drop any names or schools of thought. I’m just curious how millions of Christians from all over the world could not find it in Greek, Latin, or Syriac until the Reformation. Are you suggesting that the greatest scholars of Christendom missed it for 1500 years? That not one Church Father or Mother found it, none of the ascethetics, not one monk, priest, or lay teacher, all of them missed it?
@@matthewvanmatre5137, I’m not saying that they all missed it but anyone who expressed it either recanted or was murdered.
The Bible talks only of the 2nd coming of Christ, not the 3rd. I was taught the Rapture my whole life, and never gave it a second thought. I was indoctrinated. Not until I started listening to Hank, did I ever consider a different view, which is dangerous. You have to be open to hearing different views, and interpretations, or you may live you whole life being wrong. Not that knowing this has anything to do with being saved, it doesnt. This just makes more sense to me. In my 50 years of studying the Bible, I've learned one thing. I dont know all the answers, and the older I get, the more stupid I realize I am. Thank the Lord, I'm not saved because of my knowledge, but my relationship with Christ. People die from lack of knowledge. That lack of knowledge is, knowing Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour. That's what counts, but it is nice to feel like you have a better understanding of Gods plan. Only that you use the wisdom he reveals to you, to tell others of his love, and strive to minister to them, in Hope's they accept Christ. You dont have to be a scholar to be a disciple, just willing to be a vessel. Jesus does the saving, and God is the one who reveals himself to the unsaved. It's a free gift, not that we should boast.
Very well said. Anyone who grew up within a denomination and accepted all that denomination taught should step back and read the Bible as if reading for the first time while totally forgetting everything they were taught. Otherwise, every text will only serve pretext for prooftext. God bless!
AMEN, Ben A.
Once saved always saved is a false doctrine just as the pre trib for the exact same reason to deceive ...Satan’s goal is to mock God what better way then working from within he’ll work on their fear of discomfort and fear of death and pain SO he gets into the mind of mean and twists the word and infilters the body with his teachers .... it’s well received because to plays into our self centered self preserving nature
BAMM pre tribbers get a wake up call they learn very quickly they’ve been douped they aren’t prepared spiritual (5 oil less Virgins) nor physically preped ( take the Mark) on and on
I knew an atheist law student from Princeton, @@tonymuse, who had read the Bible 4 times just so he could argue with Christians about their faith.
A law professor challenged him and told him to read the Bible from cover to cover, "as if it were really true."
The law student never made it to the book of Matthew before realizing the Bible's true. He repented, and he became a born-again believer.
the second coming is when Christ comes to earth, then describe the teaching of 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, when the Lord comes in the air for his believers, He is not coming to earth only to meet us in the air ?
Sound doctrine! Love it! So many are deceived believing the lie of pre-tribulation rapture. :(
TruthSeeker
The contrary the way he explains bring confusion, the church has to go in the Rapture and then the tribulación starts...otherwise how you splain the marriage of the lamb in heaven with his church....the marriage of the lamb in heaven with his church .....the church must first be in heaven ....so the Lord to deal with Israel for the last time in the Tribulacion
@@jessejimenez1793 what verse says the church leaves????
@@awordofwisdomwithcharlotte4670 1 thess 4:16
Why would John say then that ALL who are in their graves will be caught up. John didn't say some John says ALL.
I use to believe in a pre tribulation rapture but when I read Hank's book The Apocalypse Code and look at the scriptures to back up what Hank is saying I just don't see a pre trib rapture what I see is resurrection.
Tell me what the hour of temptation is if it's not when the Antichrist is here ?
Revelation3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
John was addressing Christians in the first century, the church at Philadelphia in Asia Minor to be exact. This was concerning the persecution of the fledgling church.
See the following articles…
www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/
www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
If all the saints (believers) come back with Jesus, how did they get to Heaven?
They were Raptured up.
Sorry Hank but you have to deal with "Harpazo" . "they that are alive will be snatched away(harpazo) to meet The Lord in the air" (You can argue about when but not if.) When He returns, we will be summoned to "meet"(Gr escort)Him. This was at the beginning long before Darby's ideas.
Well said! I just told my nay-saying mother almost the same thing yesterday. With the "snatching away" we meet the Lord in the air. At the second coming, the Lord sets foot down on the Mount of Olives.
spot on mate. when, yes but the rapture is a literal real event. biblical.
we need to be realky careful what we liste to on line or any where for thst matter.
people just accept what is said without looking for themselves. i often say check scripture against the hebrew and greek.
I don't know where this bible man gets his scripture. Can't be from the bible. It literally says Jesus will come as lightning in the clouds and all his elect will be caught up with him. There are a few other videos where this guy is talking complete contradictory nonsense to the bible. In one video he says that hell isn't real and then proceeds to answer someone in the comments by saying hell is real.... Which is it? It can't be both real and not real.
Thank you for this. I have believed what you're saying all my life, but never heard or knew of any one else who shared the same thoughts. I've always felt like I was missing something because I dared to question the whole rapture idea.
The 24 elders represent the raptured church in heaven! Our LORD promised to protect us from the wrath to come! Born again Christians don't even have to worry about the Mark of the beast because the antichrist can not come as long as the wonderful Restrainer, the HOLY SPIRIT is still here. HE will be removed at the rapture. Listen to real theologians like Dr. David Reagan. Dr John Ankerberg, Dr. Chuck Missler and their guests! Maranatha
I am a bit confused. you say that the ones that are "TAKEN" are taken in judgement yet the Greek word used for "TAKEN" is "paralambanó" which means "To join to one's self or to associate with one's self as a companion or to take or choose" where as the word for left comes from the Greek word "aphiémi" which means "of a husband divorcing his wife or to disregard or to keep no longer or to go away from another in order to go to another place" - how does this translate to taken in judgement?
Here is an Christian Research Journal article on your very question...
www.equip.org/article/whos-been-left-behind/#christian-books-3
Warren Nozaki
Research
Look up the meaning of αἴρω in other passages, the "taking away" is clearly taking about the christians being raised upward
AND ISRAEL IS LITERAL NATION and the Church is LITERAL CHURCH. ALSO, first and second century believers in OT scriptures and Yeshua clearly believed in the calling out of all end of days believers. We need to know all history of early believers of the prophets. John the baptizer had Policarp as his teacher, and Policarp’s teacher also believed in the rapture. Church of Rome changed removed our BLESSED HOPE during the times of universal rule and when they changed the calendar and laws. Know WHY you believe. Study for yourself so that your not deceived.
I agree with Hank on many theological views, just not this one. It’s okay tho. I haven’t found ANY one specific group of Believers that have arrived and walk in the FULLNESS of understanding. All true believers are BEING transformed and redeemed each day that we remain IN Christ alone. Until THAT DAY, Church, may we be found faithfully loving and enduring with one another-the Bride of Christ.
@@samanthaphifer7941
Nonsense! Polycarp believed no such lies.
If there will be no rapture then what is 1 Tessalonians 4:17 talking about?
There is no "pre-trib" rapture
@@toddwood4562 Yes, I'm happy to say there is, but for you there won't be. If you aren't watching for it, you will not see it.
Don Cleveland - amateur@@doncleveland1245
@@toddwood4562 There you go, fruits of the Spirit, call me names. It's ok, I forgive you, but I would get busy refining your view, because you have much to learn.
The Scripture says that Jesus will return to earth with His saints when He returns to lay down rule on earth. How in the world do we return with Him if we were never with Him in Glory?
The Scripture also says that angels summon God's elect after Jesus' return to earth "from one end of Heaven to the other". How is that possible if indeed we were never in Heaven?
Good thought but I'd say we aren't the only saints. On judgement day we'll have to wait in line (so to speak) as the saints from the last 2000 years get vindication, they have been waiting to see judgement come to the earth. The first 1000 years of Christianity is marred by persecution. We will join them though if, like Jesus said "we endure to the end."
Lean not on your own understanding. Read and study. We are here. Blessed is he who is doing the Lords work when He comes back. Tell everyone about the gospel.
Josh That is very interesting because the final Trump could be literal as in President Trump. Maybe a warning as God warns His people. The Bible is so incredible to have. Such a blessing
The dead in Christ will rise First and we who are alive will rise up to meet him. These are to saints.
Those that come with Him have already died. Those who are alive and remain are changed to spirit bodies when Christ returns ,to the earth at the 7th trump.
He says there's no verse in the bible that speaks of the rapture because he twists 1 thessalonians 4:16-17 into what he calls a metaphor , or in other words, being caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air isn't something to take literally, but rather metaphorically. Hank falls by the wayside in this example and it's quite possible that those who will be excluded from the event in 1Thess 4:16-17 , are excluded by their unbelief so they can experience the time of trial much like the Jews in order that they will become believers.
***** The rapture comes from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself with His very own words from the gospel of John 14:2-3 where He says " In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
The apostle Paul further explains the Lord coming for His own in 1Thess 4:16-17 where he declares :
" For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
To make the claim you just did about some jesuit demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge of God's word.
***** You can sit back in your chair of denial and ignorantly make whatever claims you want. I know what the bible says about the subject of the rapture and the tribulation. I've studied it for years. I don't use fabrications or out of context verses to present the truth. Not everyone who professes Christ will be taken when the rapture happens and the book of Revelation makes that very clear. There will be deniers who proclaim who will be left on the earth to deal with the wrath of God, just as He warned those who refuse to repent.
***** You haven't been face to face with me pal. Don't make claims like you're some ace in the hole debater. I would smoke you like a fish on the subject. Quit making claims you can't back up and start using the bible to disprove the rapture. You will fail every time. Your problem is much like that of others who refuse to believe the truth because your father the devil has blinded your eyes so you can't see.
***** Earth to Idiot, come back idiot.
***** Since when is the word idiot foul language ?
We will meet with Him in the air is what Scripture says.
‘meet’ is just that though, and certainly not in the air anymore than Satan is flying around in the air as the prince of the air. This is answered in the video, meeting in the context of going out to greet a dignitary and ushering them back in, think Palm Sunday, so even if we are levitated physically, that Greek term indicates we’re coming right back down.
We will be Harpazo TOGETHER up into the Clouds so as to Meet Jesus in the air just as Paul and Jesus said! Matthew 24 and 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18!
@Albert E I can assure you that we will NOT be staying in Suspension! When the Ark was lifted Up on the Waters of Judgment the Ark was suspended UNTIL the Judgment was completed and then it rested back down!
So it will be when Jesus comes and we are lifted up to Meet Him as that is that Day of Judgment called The Day of the Lord when Jesus will Trample the Wine Press of His "ORGE"! Once that Day of "ORGE" is completed we will descend with Jesus on that day when Jesus will walk into Jerusalem Triumphant and sit on the Throne of David!
The Suspension in the air is because "NO" Child of God is appointed the "ORGE" of God so we will NOT be on the earth on that Day of Trampling!
@Albert E The Throne of David is "Not" in Heaven! The Throne of David is in Jerusalem! Jesus will remain in Heaven UNTIL That Day when He comes and sits on the Throne of David in Jerusalem and begins the Reign as is Prophesied in Scripture! The Throne of David is NOT the same as the Throne that Jesus is presently sitting on at the Right Hand of the Throne of God in Heaven!
I am waiting for Jesus to Come and the Resurrection to take place of All the Children of God when we will all then "Together" be Harpazo to Meet Him!
@Albert E Thanks Albert for your honesty! I do appreciate your Humbleness and Honesty! It is wonderful that you are asking questions and seeking answers! Please take your time in seeking and look from many angles! I have spoken with many that have walked a journey similar to yours! So many Theories and so many Doctrines of man that has caused so much confusion and intimidation! Please feel free to ask any questions on my Channel! There are some amazing people that are searching at present for answers and we are all seeking Truth! I will be Patient with you as I hope you will be patient with me! Thanks again for your Humbleness!
Jesus promises the church that He is going to KEEP us from the hour of testing. See REVELATION 3:10. The Apostle Paul taught about the Rapture, read your bible!!!!
You are claiming that the last church on earth is the church of Philadelphia? If the church is no longer here then how do you explain that Laodicea is called a church and comes after Philadelphia?
What about the marriage supper likened in matt matt 25 and rev 19?
You have to rightly divide the scriptures to the right events. There are different events that these things refer to. The 10 virgins parable refers the Sheep and Goat Judgment at the end of The Tribulation which determines who, among the survivors is admitted into the Millennial Kingdom.
The 7 Churches were 7 physical churches at that time, also 7 types of Churches (as in denominations) , as well as 7 types of Christians.
1) stop implying that anyone who disagrees with you hasn't read their Bible. There's 200 years of indoctrination into this theology that makes it "obvious" even though it's not there.
2) generally people who argue so much for pre-trib dont understand that the majority (in the world if not in America) don't even believe in a literally 7 year tribulation hell in earth with super Hitler, because people take passages out of context and think it should be interpreted hyper literally
Hank, I became a born-again Christian over 30 years ago. I thank you for being there on the radio at that time. Your simple, obvious explanation of the Word of GOD is the example that all biblical teachers should follow.
Thank you for your teaching and ministry.
Sincerely,
Cloud Walker
Cloud, I totally concur. He and his ministry have been a true blessing. Such a respectful, well read student of the word, who also exudes humility (I feel) is hard to find. Chuck Swindoll has many such characteristics, too. IMO.
Tell me what you think a "born again" Christian is. Did you go through an emotional experience to be born again? The process of being born again happens at baptism, at any age. That's always been the way the church understood it. Or to be born again of water and spirit.
@@70AD-user45 you are correct. When I was baptized, I understood that I now have a new spirit. I believe it is the first resurrection of Revelation 20:4.
Thanks for your comment!
What's your thoughts/view on 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4!? ... 🧐🤔
@@brandoncampadonico45 Good question! The apostles ONLY taught what they learned from Christ. The Jews and some gentiles who converted to Christianity had some knowledge of a resurrection. Keep this in mind as you study the scriptures.
I do not believe 1Thess. 4:13-18 is not a separate event from the resurrection to happen at Christ's return. Please read Matthew 25: Return and Judgements.
In this passage of scripture, Paul is explaining what will happen at the Second Coming of Jesus. Here though he is ONLY explaining what will happen with the Christians. When Christ returns, time is up and the game is over. The power of the Holy Spirit will cause ALL who have died to be resurrected, Christians as Paul explained, to eternal life with Christ, the unbelievers to eternal damnation. The bodies of believers will be physical and glorified, the bodies of unbelievers will not, but they will also be physical and eternal.
The rapture and the second coming of Christ are often confused. Sometimes it is difficult to determine whether a scripture verse is referring to the rapture or the second coming. However, in studying end-times Bible prophecy, it is very important to differentiate between the two.
The rapture is when Jesus Christ returns to remove the church (all believers in Christ) from the earth. The rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies resurrected and, along with believers who are still living, will meet the Lord in the air. This will all occur in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye. The second coming is when Jesus returns to defeat the Antichrist, destroy evil, and establish His millennial kingdom. The second coming is described in Revelation 19:11-16.
The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows:
1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14).
2) The second coming occurs after the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6-19). The rapture occurs before the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10).
3) The rapture is the removal of believers from the earth as an act of deliverance (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 5:9). The second coming includes the removal of unbelievers as an act of judgment (Matthew 24:40-41).
4) The rapture will be secret and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The second coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7; Matthew 24:29-30).
5) The second coming of Christ will not occur until after certain other end-times events take place (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Matthew 24:15-30; Revelation chapters 6-18). The rapture is imminent; it could take place at any moment (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54).
Why is it important to keep the rapture and the second coming distinct?
1) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, believers will have to go through the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10).
2) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, the return of Christ is not imminent-there are many things which must occur before He can return (Matthew 24:4-30).
3) In describing the tribulation period, Revelation chapters 6-19 nowhere mentions the church. During the tribulation-also called “the time of trouble for Jacob” (Jeremiah 30:7)-God will again turn His primary attention to Israel (Romans 11:17-31).
The rapture and second coming are similar but separate events. Both involve Jesus returning. Both are end-times events. However, it is crucially important to recognize the differences. In summary, the rapture is the return of Christ in the clouds to remove all believers from the earth before the time of God’s wrath. The second coming is the return of Christ to the earth to bring the tribulation to an end and to defeat the Antichrist and his evil world empire.
Revelation 3:10
King James Version
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. (Before the trib)
Definition of tribulation is the persecution of Christians, prove me wrong. Don't confuse wrath with tribulation two totally different things
Wasn't Noah saved from the flood? Wasn't Lot saved from the fiery destruction of several cities? Lot was actually in a city that was in close proximity to those that burned up.
@@jimmattson8008 read Luke 17:26-37 the ones left behind are saved the ones taken are fed to the birds. Pretribulation rapture is not biblical, you have to really twist scripture around. Mathew 24:29-31 after tribulation
@@blacksheep6888 read Rev 12:12 wrath of Satan
@@blacksheep6888 wow! That was scripture that I hadn't seen lately. We are to look up to welcome our Lord Jesus when he comes. Leaving all earthly things behind and receiving the heavenly things from above.
! Corinthians 15:51 we shall not all sleep (Sleep is physical death) but shall be changed IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE (thats a perishable mortal body becoming an imperishable body). how can any bible "teacher" not see this ? THIS is the event that is referred to as the "rapture" even though that exact word is not in Scripture. This passage is not referring to the resurrection of the dead for final judgement. That happens after the millenial reign of the Lord Jesus on earth after His second coming. Any teaching that there is no "rapture" of the body of Christ is wrong and in error.
We will meet Jesus in the air, plain and simple - this is the Rapture.
... which is nothing to do with being taken to Heaven for 7 years, while the Antichrist reigns on the Earth.
@@IndianaJoe0321 Well there's more evidence of that than Hanegraaff's gives to support his claim that meeting the Lord in the air is nothing more than a metaphor. I don't know how Hanegraaff handles the imagery surrounding the wedding, but how do you interpret it?
We see the groom going to his father's house to prepare room for the bride, we see him take the bride to be with him. We see a wedding in heaven, and we see him return with his holy one's wearing white robes - which are the righteous works of his saints. It is easy as it gets to claim that someone else's interpretation is wrong, but I suggest that you provide a better one because I certainly don't see hanegraaf doing that in the video at least.
Well, @@paulbrennan4163 , there is nothing in 1 Thessalonians 4 to indicate that the passage is a metaphor. Moreover, there is nothing to indicate that Jesus suddenly stops, does a 180, and heads back to Heaven -- before coming back a third time. There are two messianic Advents, not three ...
"For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way, through Jesus, God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep. For we say this to you by a word from the Lord: We who are still alive at the Lord’s coming will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are still alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
The Rapture is in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 harpagēsometha (Greek) = rapiemur (Latin) = we shall be raptured. Raptured = caught up. Check the Greek verb harpazō. I count 9 raptures in the Bible: Enoch, Elijah, Christ, Philip in Acts (short hop rapture), Paul (possibly in vision) John Rev 4:1 (possibility in vision, The Church, & the 2 witnesses of Rev 11. There should be no dispute about the fact of the Rapture. Christians do debate its timing relative to other prophetic events. This debate should not cause rancor. What we believe on the Rapture will not change anything about it one white.
Thank you ! The word "rapture" doesnt appear in the bible but READ 1Thessalonians, Cotinthians. The following PhDs teach a pre-tribulation rapture; (late) Dr John Walvoord, Don Stewart, Jack Hibbs, David Reagan, Mark Hitchcock, oh but, what do they know ?
and lot and his family escaping the judgement that God brought upon the unGodliness of that time.
In about 1986 we started attending a "full gospel" Church, after 6 months or so one of the elders told me he wants to come and check my doctrine. I thought, "this will be interesting!" as I knew I had some different understandings that they would not agree with but kept quiet about so we could fellowship together. he and another person came, we went through most with no problems, when he got into the "rapture" and he asked if I believe that I told him " i have a view that is a bit different, but lets not go there". He would not leave it alone, I told him "it's not in the bible, I only believe what's there" and he tried to show me. We went into it in an extremely through way and carried on until early hours of the morning, then the next evening, and the next. so many people were coming that they filled our lounge by the end. After a week he told me " well, now i have to tell the pastor what we preaching is wrong and we must change".
All went quiet for a week, then one day he came alone and told me "I have discussed it with the pastor and we would have to write to head office in America and they would have to write to every full gospel church in the world so they all change at the same time, that too big, it's not going to happen. We will carry on preaching as we were and if you tell anyone I told you this I will deny it".
After that the people in the church avoided me. So i stopped going. What can you do with THAT!?
Goes to show we can't trust our churches...
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@@brandoncampadonico45 "What do you see as the Apostle Paul explaining", I am a bit slow, what is the connection?
I am in awe of you. To take on the elder and discuss the correct information on the rapture. Your story reveals to me what I and other believers of the rapture know. That most churches don’t teach it under an agreement from corporate office. Satan has done his job by entering the churches changing doctrine all around.
You might want to consider going to another church which does not do such a coercive thing.
In this video, the caller was asking what 1 Cor 15:51-52 meant about a rapture. I think I see what the caller is getting at, and Hank, in a way, answered it. This passage only talks about the Dead being raised, at the time when Jesus returns. This passage needs to be compared with 1 Thes 4:15-17 where it says the dead in Christ will rise first, and those which are alive and remain shall be caught up together. I'm not yet sure why Hank didn't suggest this, in his response, to the caller ! ?
I was a pre-trib believer for 40 years until I started studying the bible for myself. before listening to Hank, I read the passages he discussed the same way. I like your comparisons with these two passages. However, in your last reference in 1 Thes. the word ''remain'' in the original Greek language,(see Strong's Concordance 4035) is very interesting. it maybe only my opinion, but when translated correctly, to the word ''survive'' it then surely changes the readers understanding of the verse.
My question is;
does this passage make more sense as a post tribulation theory? what are we to survive?
Steve, it's comical how you make a case that pre trib believers don't study the bible for themselves. You obviously still are not studying it, but rather reading into it your preferences and indoctrinated positions you received from Hank, and not from the spirit of God.
The word remain used in the 1 Thess 4 verse is the plain and simple word speaking of those who have not yet died, and are still alive. It clearly says the born again believers who have died will be caught up in the clouds, along with those who are still alive ( remain ) to meet the Lord in the air. Your confusion from Hank has caused you to miss the simplicity of God's word. It's amazing how the wise and self professed scholars miss the simple things.
The writing in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 states that the Lord descends from heaven. The dead in Christ rise first and the living in Christ are caught up in the air. The scripture says they meet the Lord in the air. In John chapter 14 Jesus said that he was going away to prepare a place for the Believers. And he said that where I am you may be also. When Jesus went away as seen in Acts chapter 1, he ascended up into heaven. You tie all the scriptures together and he is preparing a place in heaven. When Jesus said I go to prepare a place for you he did not go to the Earth and is preparing a place for us on Earth. He ascended up into heaven. And so the teaching of 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 is that the Believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. What are they doing in the air meeting Christ in the heavenlies? To go to that place that he promised in John chapter 14, that he would be gone to prepare a place for the believer, that we're Jesus is the believer would be with him also. So there is a catching a way out of this earth into the heavens. If you read the book of Revelation it talks about people in a Heavenly scene and states that they were washed in the blood and came from all kindreds, tongues, and Nations, this is all of those people that will partake in the 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 event of the catching away of God's people. Jesus never prepared a place on Earth after his Ascension into heaven, but remember his words, I go to prepare a place for you. It is a heavenly encounter.
The Saints will not go through the tribulation; we suffer with Christ now... Some people will repent during the tribulation.
Thank you for this teaching. It's good to know there are at least some who recognize this false doctrine for what it is.
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@@brandoncampadonico45 Are you talking about verses 15 on? I always took that to be the second coming of Christ.
@@jayward1225 Yeah, exactly! Same with 1 Corinthians 15 (?) i believe it is!? Yet, i just listened to this sermon by Francis Chan, about suffering, and i believe he was dead on and it was really convicting!! ...
Matthew 13-37-41 and Revelation 14:14-20 is “the Rapture” Jesus called it the harvest at the end of the age; the weeds among the wheat are the grapes of Gods wrath. The Rapture happens AFTER the foolish virgins fall away and AFTER the number is complete of those who are to be put to death for their faith (Rev. 6:9-11) after the Rapture, God pours out his wrath on the inhabitants of the earth. So, for Noah, the Rapture represents the Ark where he was allowed to escape the flood.
Been saved for nearly 24 years. Been a pre-tribber for 15 of those years due to the immense influence on my eschatology by TBN stalwarts John Hager, Hal Lindsey, Jack Van Impe, Peter and Paul Lalonde and Hilton Sutton. I began to notice flaws in the pre-tribulational rapture around 2009 or thereabouts. Not one verse in Scripture teaches this view I discovered to my amazement. Back then I didn't realize how flimsy a foundation the doctrine is built on. I now believe that the rapture and genera resurrection are all tied together. The Lord descends from heaven with a shout, according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. The dead, both righteous and unrighteous, are raised up. The resurrected righteous meet the Lord in the air. The living righteous are instantaneously transformed into immortal beings and are caught up in the clouds with the Lord and resurrected saints. The Lord then escorts His saints to the earth to commence judgment, as per Revelation 20. After judgment, the eternal age begins in earnest, not a so-called millennium with a rebuilt temple and reinstituted animal sacrificial system and mortal humans who are still copulating. The Chiliast view raises more questions than answers. The same can be said about the pre-trib rapture, which escaped the notice of Christianity for 1830 years of its 2000 years of existence...
Amen Kevin! It takes real courage to question those whom you have looked up to as being "good teachers". It looks to me that you have made an earnest effort to believe in only what scripture tells. God bless!
That’s a great explanation!! I followed those teachers as well
No such Thing as Pre-Trib
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The pretribulation rapture is not taught in the early church. The rapture theology came about in the 1800's by John Darby! The disciples of the disciples never taught a rapture! Read and think people!
+James Gillespie That answer may be sufficient to those that have not seen the nor want to see the research that has been done that soundly disputes this claim. But as I am unfortunately learning is that people do not care to actually research or they do not want to be challenged on their beliefs. I have researched all the view points over 30 years and the Pre-Trib view is the only one that does not have to spiritualize scripture to make sense. If you take a literal interpretation of scripture which is the way we should unless the Bible tells us otherwise, the Pre-Trib view is the one that makes the most coherent sense. But in this day and age many will follow a teacher and never ever ask questions or do the study themselves.
+RaptureMeSoon. What are the sources you have? And could you explain how Jesus will return two times even though Scripture clearly says He will return once? Or how when the disciples are looking up into the sky the angel tells them that Jesus will return the same way He left.....which is a lie if He returns invisibly to rapture His church. I believed in the rapture for a number of years and then I looked at Scripture and the history of the church...and it wasn't there. I feel sad for those who will be caught off guard by the persecution that will come before Christ returns. Those who follow the unbiblical, man made doctrine of an invisible rapture will be distraught and abandon their man made faith.
James, you're missing a large fact here. The event of 1 Thess 4:16-17 explains that the church bride is caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Jesus does not come back to the earth for this event. He only comes down as far as the clouds and snatches His bride away, like a thief in the night, and takes them to His Father's house, as He explained in John 14:2-3.
The second coming is the event when Jesus Christ literally returns to the earth, actually steps down on the soil and remains here to establish His 1,000 year kingdom on earth. Paul and Jude both explain quite well that when Jesus returns to the earth the second time , His church bride is with Him. ( Jude 14-15 ) and ( 1 Thess 3:13 ).
If the church bride is with Him when He returns, it stands to reason that they had to be removed sometime beforehand or they would not be returning with Him. They would be waiting for Him.
James Gillespie === You've been told a lie. The lie originates with the papist and his religion. So powerful is this corrupt religion it has the influence to hold back, hide and even change history. The premillennial doctrine (pre-trib rapture) did not originate from Jonn N. Darby in the early nineteenth century. This is a lie. There were many EARLY church fathers who made reference to a premillennial catching away of the body of Jesus Christ. The apostle Paul states, ''I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren ...'' Don't be ignorant.
1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
Here is just a small example of not only the imminence of a rapture but of a premillenial rapture many of the EARLY church fathers wrote about. 1700 years before and on well before Jonn Darby. I could provide much much more proof if you'd like.
Barnabas (40-100): “The final stumbling-block (or source of danger) approaches…for the whole [past] time of your faith will profit you nothing, unless now in this wicked time WE also withstand coming sources of danger….That the Black One [Antichrist] may find no means of entrance…” (Epistle of Barnabas, 4).
Clement of Rome (40-100): “…the Scripture also bears witness, saying, ‘Speedily will He come, and will not tarry’; and, ‘The Lord shall suddenly come [Matthew 24:30 coming] TO HIS TEMPLE, even the Holy One, for whom ye look'” (I Clement, 23).
Hermas (40-140): “Those, therefore, who continue steadfast, and are put through the fire [of the Great Tribulation that is yet to come], will be purified by means of it….Wherefore cease not speaking these things into the ears OF THE SAINTS…” (The Pastor of Hermas, Vision 4).
Polycarp (70-167): “He comes as the Judge of the living and the dead” (Epistle to the Philippians, II).
Justin Martyr (100-168): “The man of apostasy [Antichrist], who speaks strange things against the Most High, shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against US THE CHRISTIANS…” (Dialogue With Trypho, 110).
Melito (100-170): “For with all his strength did the adversary assail us, even then giving a foretaste of his activity among US [during the Great Tribulation] which is to be without restraint…” (Discourse on the Resurrection, i, 8).
Irenaeus (140-202): “And they [the ten kings who shall arise] shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her with fire, and shall give their kingdom to the beast, and put the CHURCH to flight” (Against Heresies, V, 26).
Cyprian (200-258): “The day of affliction has begun to hang over our heads, and the end of the world and the time of the Antichrist to draw near, so that WE must all stand prepared for the battle…” (Epistle, 55, 1).
Victorinus (240-303): “…the times of Antichrist, when all shall be injured” (Commentary on the Apocalypse of the Blessed John, VI, 5).
Lactantius (240-330): “And power will be given him [Antichrist] to desolate the whole earth for forty-two months….When these things shall so happen, then the righteous and the followers of truth shall separate themselves from the wicked, and flee into solitudes” (Divine Institutes, VII, 17).
Athanasius (293-373): “…they have not spared Thy servants, but are preparing the way for Antichrist” (History of the Arians, VIII, 79).
Ephraim the Syrian (306-373): “Nothing remains then, except that the coming of our enemy, Antichrist, appear…” (Sermo Asceticus, I).
Pseudo-Ephraem (4th century?): “…there is not other which remains, except the advent of the wicked one [Antichrist]…” (On the Last Times, the Antichrist etc., 2).
Cyril of Jerusalem (315-386): “The Church declares to thee the things concerning Antichrist before they arrive…it is well that, knowing these things, thou shouldest make thyself ready beforehand” (Catechetical Lectures, 15, 9).
Jerome (340-420): “I told you that Christ would not come unless Antichrist had come BEFORE” (Epistle 21).
Bernard of Clairvaux (1090-1153): “There remains only one thing--that the demon of noonday [Antichrist] should appear, to seduce those who REMAIN STILL IN CHRIST…” (Sermons on the Song of Songs, 33, 16).
Roger Bacon (1214-1274): “…because of future perils [for the CHURCH] in the times of Antichrist…” (Opus Majus, II, p. 634).
John Wycliffe (1320-1384): “Wherefore let us pray to God that he keep us IN the hour of temptation, which is coming upon all the world, Rev. iii” (Writings of the Reverend and Learned John Wickliff, D.D., p. 155).
Martin Luther (1483-1546): “[The book of Revelation] is intended as a revelation of things that are to happen in the future, and especially of tribulations and disasters for the CHURCH…” (Works of Martin Luther, VI, p. 481).
Menno Simons (1496-1561): “…He will appear as a triumphant prince and a victorious king to bring judgment. Then will those who PERSECUTE US look upon Him…” (Complete Writings…, p. 622).
John Calvin (1509-1564): “…we ought to follow in our inquiries after Antichrist, especially where such pride proceeds to a public desolation of the CHURCH” (Institutes, Vol. 2, p. 411).
John Knox (1515-1572): “…the great love of God towards his CHURCH, whom he pleased to forewarn of dangers to come, so many years before they come to pass…to wit, The man of sin, The Antichrist, The Whore of Babylon” (The History of the Reformation…, I, p. 76).
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James Gillespie ... It's alright if you don't believe in the Harpazo of the Bride of Christ. You'll still be taken out when Christ pulls the Church off the earth. But where your error comes in is telling people that Harpazo "theory" came about in the late 1800's by John Darby...and the making the statement "The disciples of the disciples NEVER taught a "Harpazo"! Let me inform you that 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18, the Apostles earliest book, dated 51 A.D. was written by an Apostle of Jesus Christ and not John Darby! This guy Hank H. Is telling you wrong. Paul wrote 1 Thessalonians and sent it to the church and about six months later in 52 A.D. he sent 2 Thessalonians to the church there. I want you to go to Revelation chapter 19, read it real carefully and to see when the Christian Church returns with Christ at the Second Coming. In order for the church to return James it has to be up there. Hanks got it wrong!
Question: If the rapture was not true, why would one be left in the field and one be taken, etc? I don't think anyone will be worrying about working in the field in the middle of the great tribulation. It will be chaos.
Maybe like the days of Noah, many were "taken" or swept away in judgement while the righteous, Noah and his family were left. Just sayin.
Obviously you didn't listen. He spelled it out, clearly.
We need to remember who is being addressed(audience) and timing of the texts and it and context and it makes a lot more sense.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh During the Feast Of Trumpets 100 trumpets are blown and the last trump that Paul is referring to when it comes to the rapture of the Church is the last trump that is blown during the Feast Of Trumpets it's NOT the seventh trumpet that is blown in the book of Revelation.
The day of Christ is the rapture of the Church and the day of the Lord is the battle of Armageddon.
@@danielblair4413 so the 7th trumpet in the LAST BOOK of the Bible is not the last trump? Daniel is a bible expert with no content on his site.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh says: *so the 7th trumpet in the LAST BOOK of the Bible is not the last trump?*
You're NOT rightly dividing the word of truth as stated in 2 Timothy 2:15.
There are dispensations in the bible and we are currently in the dispensation of the Church Age and the dispensation of the Church Age ends at the rapture of the Church.
There are seven feasts of Israel and they are prophetic and Jesus at his first coming fulfilled the first four.
The final three feasts will be fulfilled during Jesus' second coming.
The Feast Of Trumpets is the next feast that Jesus is going to fulfill and during the feast of trumpets 100 trumpets are blown and the last trump that is blown during a feast of trumpets is called the last trump.
Paul was referring to a trumpet being blown during the Feast Of Trumpets when he stated the last trump for the rapture of the Church.
*Daniel is a bible expert*
I'm NOT a bible expert, but I do rightly divide the word of truth as the bible instructs me to do and I also have the Holy Spirit confirming the truth of what I stated above.
*with no content on his site.*
What does having no content on my site have to do with me stating the truth or not?
I'm following what the bible teaches in a rightly divided manner as it instructs me to do and when I do a pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church is clearly seen.
The bible states that people will fall away from the truth in the last days NOT come to know the truth and the bible has always taught a pre-Tribulation rapture and that proves that people are falling away from that teaching in the last days.
Truth always comes out first and then the lies attack it, so what are you going to believe?
The truth that I stated to you above or the lie that you have chosen to believe and have fallen away from the truth by doing so.
@@danielblair4413 Dispensation comes from the same word as dispense where the word dispenser comes from. Ever hear of a soap dispenser? Nothing to do with a period of time. Moses was GIVEN the law and Christ GAVE us grace.
Websters 1828 dictionary (He knew Biblical Greek and Hebrew and 20 languages)
"Distribution; the act of dealing out to different persons or places;
The dealing of God to his creatures; the distribution of good and evil, natural or moral, in the divine government.
That which is dispensed or bestowed; a system of principles and rites enjoined; as the Mosaic LAW dispensation; the gospel GRACE dispensation; including, the former the Levitical law and rites; the latter the scheme of redemption by Christ." nothing about periods of time.
of course you think the antichrist Jews are God's chosen people when Jesus called them the children of the devil.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews - Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
Jesus is an antisemite to zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be "christians"
The word rapture is not in the Bible.
One needs to read 2nd Thessalonians Chp 2. This explains when Jesus will return .
This is the first time I watched you and I must say I really like how you kept answering difficult questions straight on. You never went round and round in circles like I've seen preachers sometimes do when confronted with a difficult question. I have always struggled to find pre-trib rapture. It is of paramount importance to understand that us born again ones will in fact be right here during tribulation. You made the point that God is well able to protect us (if in the Philadelphia church) from certain aspects of tribulation like He did for the Israelites in Egypt which I think is helpful for people who are so afraid of tribulation that they follow teachers who tickle their ears with pretrib. Thank you.
One must allow for the fact that the tribulation will be of such force and intensity that most parish unless the very hand of God stops it.The purpose of the Tribluation AKA "Jacob's Trouble" is those known as the earth dwellers who reject Jesus Christ will be dwelt with. Rev. 3:10 "..I will KEEP you from the hour of trial that comes upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the earth." Romans 5:6 "....We shall be saved from the wrath through Him" 1 Thess. 1:10 "...even Jesus who delievers us from the wrath to come." 1 Thess.5:9 " ...for God did not appoint us to wrath..." now...finally ask yourself...who exactly are the mortals walking into the millennial kingdom AFTER the rapture...the Church MUST be gone at this point because of the wedding feast in heaven...sooo when exactly did they leave? 5 minutes b4? Or like Paul said in a twinkling of an eye? The Body of Christ is NOT mentioned after Rev.4 thru Rev. 19...the ENTIRE time of the trib.....WHY?
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The great tribulation has already been fulfilled, and was in fact at the end of the Old Covenant age of Israel in 70 AD when apostate Old Covenant Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in an act of divine judgement. Biblical eschatology was only ever concerned with Old Covenant Israel, not with the New Covenant church age. Daniel 7, 14 says the New Covenant age is eternal, and Matthew 10, 7 says it was "at hand" in the 1st century generation.
@born conservative
If you want to follow the doctrines of John Nelson Darby who invented the rapture in 1830, then promoted by the Plymouth Brethren who emigrated to the US, then that's up to you, but it's never going to happen. The rapture is followed by Zionists who are deluded into believing the modern state of Israel is somehow connected to Old Covenant Israel. Old Covenant Israel was a theocratic entity who were living under Torah. Modern day "Israel" is a political entity that was stolen by the Khazars from Eastern Europe. One has got nothing to do with the other. A Zionist is not a true Christian as Jesus said, "my kingdom is not of this world", meaning the kingdom is spiritual in nature and not a worldly geopolitical kingdom, which is what Zionists are waiting for. Zionists were waiting for the "end of the world" in 1988 (40 years after 1948), but nothing happened. The truth is Jesus' Parousia was in 70 AD (40 years after crucifixion in 30 AD). That was the year that apostate Old Covenant Jerusalem and the temple were demolished. It looks like you've missed the second coming.😂
By the way, 2 Thessalonians was written to the 1st century Saints who were going through tribulation and persecution. It was written to you or anyone else in the 21st century. What persecution are you going through? You won't discuss the rapture with anyone because you know it's bollocks.
How would Hank answer the issue of Rev.2 21-22 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.
It appears to me the inference made is if they should repent He would not cast them into great tribulation. Accepting that means what it says then I'm curious about how Jesus will come for His bride right before God's wrath is poured out in Rev 15 as believed by many but enable the repentant christian to circumnavigate the previous apocalyptic chapters. No. That,s not the case either cause Satan's wrath is poured out on the church. If He's keeping us from the great tribulation how can that be.
Your question will be passed on to Hank.
Never published on Revelation 2:21-23. Why would not the Church in Thyatira circa AD 67 be excluded from a situation wherein a members were being misled by false prophet like the Jezebel of the OT? Could not God work in history to judge the false the prophetess? Could not that divine judgment have happen in the Church in Thyatira, and those who followed that false prophetess suffered great tribulation? Could not those who remained faithful been kept from suffering the sufferings of the prophetess and her devotes, like Moses and the children of Israel were protected by the plagues God poured out upon the Egyptians?
@@BibleAnswerMan The letters to the seven churches have been understood to be representative of the church throughout the age and are prophetic in the sense they send warning to the churches at the time near His coming. As He is unveiling the apocalyptic writings of the prophets the usage of the terminology "great tribulation" would be consistent. The only time that terminology is used is when applying to the time of Jacob's trouble. Another example your aware of is in the letter to church of Philadelphia "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
a very good interview. it indicates very clearly how people can get so entangled with ' last days ' speculations. I've always been unable to see in the thesalonians 4 passage how it relates to a rapture .
Dispensationalists *try* to get the 7 year tribulation teaching out of Scripture from a very bad interpretation of Daniels “70th week” in Daniel 9. But you have to be really good at Bible gymnastics to pull it off.
Thank you for this wonderful explanation. It really helps me understand this better.
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When the eschatology of Scripture is seen as redemptive--rather than escapist--the idea of a rapture becomes less plausible. Will the Gospel ultimately triumph?
Welcome to the end times where confusion and contradiction abound.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
@@Zurvan101 yes, there is a strong delusion right now!
What do you believe?
Pray for Peace Study like crazy. He that has wisdom will see. Study the Word. I think the Anti Christ will be a pope
Andy McCurdy it’s been like this for 2000 years. Dispensationalists shouldn’t even read Revelation. They’re not gonna see the end times before they die.
@@goldielocks5252 So, you are saying the Anti-Christ will be a Christian? Any Scriptures to back that up?
1 Thes 4 is a post-trib event with a resurrection. The resurrection is for the Millennium. One taken, one left (Luke 17, Matt 24) is a pre-trib rapture without a resurrection. Life is normal in the one taken event because they are eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building, and getting married. Those activities will be GREATLY diminished at the end of the GREAT tribulation. Life is normal, there is a flash of light and we leave our flesh on earth (Luke 17:37, Matt 24:28)! One TAKEN is translated from "paralambano" in Greek which means to take and receive, not take and throw away. Lot and Noah were rescued. Maranatha!
Rom. 5:9; I Thess. 1:10; 5;9; Rev. 3:10 the church is not going thru the 7yr tribulation. Matt. 24 deals with Isreal and those that miss the rapture. Jesus never talked about the rapture because it was a mystery. I Cor. 15:51-58; I Thess. 4:13-18
bibleway 79 - The Church has been going through great tribulation since it began almost 2000 years ago. The scriptures you cite are taken out of context. Try reading the entire chapter, not just the verse.
Spot on 79! There are many deceivers on this page. In the video, at 1:03 Hank reads the scripture wrong, people have to know the difference between a "trump" and a "trumpet", because the trumps are short sounds and a trumpet is a long sound. "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." Before any of the "trumpets" are sounded we are raptured, the last "trump" occurs before the first "trumpet".
"Taken in judgment"? Does that mean some people would be judged and others wouldn't? I think it's contradictory to the scriptures
More specifically one will be taken to death and the other left behind to live.
Please see this article… www.equip.org/article/whos-been-left-behind/#christian-books-3
I find it fascinating many claim life is normal (eating, drinking, etc.) when Jesus returns in the one taken, one left verses but then say it is a post-trib event. Everybody is hiding in a cave (Rev 6:15-17) and freaking out (Luke 21:26) at the end of the great tribulation. Eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building and getting married will be greatly diminished in the end. I think the dispensationalists got it backwards. One taken is pre-trib event and 1 Thes 4 is a post-trib event. 1 Thes 4 has a resurrection. One taken does not. There is only one resurrection (John 11:24, 6:39-54, Rev 20:4-6). The whole notion that Jesus returned in 70 A.D. is just silly. Maranatha!
@@BibleAnswerManI like your interpretation of the disciples intent of "Where Lord?" I believe they were asking where they will be taken as well. I doubt the disciples were worried about the wicked however. They were asking about themselves. I doubt Jesus was saying an idiom or anything else symbolic. I think He was saying we will leave our flesh on earth. Our bodies will not float up into the air and disappear. If the eating, drinking, etc., one taken, one left is literal, why not go all the way? It is the same process today when we die. We leave our flesh on earth and our spirit/soul is taken to heaven.
Very well said my brother. God bless you for speaking the truth....truth, which is His word through the Holy Spirit and through the word of God ( the Bible) that which sanctifies us and sets us free for all bondages of deceptive falsehood.
Hank hanegraaff how do you reconcile Matthew 24:29,30,31 Mark 13:24,25,26,27 John 17:15 Revelation 3:10. Versus 1 Corinthians 15:51,52,53,54. 1 Thessalonians 4:13,14,15,16,17. Hank Hanegraaff how do you reconcile Luke 3:18. Acts 1:20,21,22,23,24,25,26. Versus Acts 22:6-16 Acts 26:12-18. Acts 9:1-19 Acts 26:12-18. Using many words such as Olivet discourse, eschatology, metaphor which are not in the Bible gives more confusion than understanding.
@JaimeCunanan-vn1eh Hank explains the way to understand the Olivet Discourse (Matt 24) and the Book of Revelation along with other end time passages of the Scriptures in this article… Apocalypse When? Why Most End-time Teaching Is Dead Wrong - www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/
Surprisingly, there is not a single verse which talks about a pretribulation rapture.
Like Hank, I also don't find support in Scripture for the recent teaching of Pre-trib rapture. However from my own personal understanding of Scripture I can see how a Pre-wrath rapture might be the more plausible view. But please don't confuse pre-trib with pre-wrath, they are not referring to the same thing.
Hank said it as Scripture says it, there is NO rapture, heaven comes to earth as it did in Eden, as it did in Jacob's dream about angels ascending and descending, as it did when Christ was on the earth and as it will ultimately when the earth is restored and where we will live and reign with Christ forever, that is why we pray "Thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven"...grace and peace to you.
@Patrick Gragg What specifically do you want me to see there?
also, where does the Bible teach that there will be 7 years before Jesus returns to rule and where does it teach that there will NOT be a new heaven and a new earth? Jesus established his kingdom on the day of Pentecost! Jesus's kingdom is the people (church- Ekklesia is a Greek word defined as “a called-out assembly or congregation.” Ekklesia is commonly translated as “church” in the New Testament.) If you are "scripturally a Christian you are already in the Kingdom and already living in Eternity!
There is no "pre-trib rapture" anywhere in the Bible. Jesus returns once, just as described in 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. That's when the "dead in Christ" and those who "are alive and remain" are "caught up" together to meet Him "in the air."
I've heard many "pre-trib" people insist God wouldn't allow His people to go through the "tribulation" which they seem to assume is God's wrath, but that is an incorrect assumption. The tribulation Jesus spoke of is over long before God's wrath is poured out and I'll show you how we can know this:
⚫ Jesus said the sun and moon would be darkened "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29)
⚫ The sun and moon are darkened at the opening of the sixth seal, as clearly stated in Revelation 6:12,13.
⚫ Therefore the tribulation - whatever it is - must be *over* or ending as the sixth seal is being opened.
⚫ Jesus, however, returns at the "last trump" (1 Cor 15:52, also 1 Thess 4:16). The "last trump" is the seventh of the seven trumpets that make up the *_seventh_* seal (Revelation 8:1 through 11:15). When He returns the dead in Christ are resurrected immortal, and those who are physically alive (and in Christ) receive immortality. Then, together, they rise to meet Christ "in the air."
⚫ Given that the sixth seal comes _before_ the seventh seal (and the 7th seal's seven trumpets) it is obvious that the "tribulation" is over well before Jesus returns and gathers both the dead - and the alive - in Christ. *The sixth seal, and the first six trumpets of the seventh seal must all occur after the tribulation, but before Jesus returns at the "last trump."*
The tribulation is not the wrath of God: the wrath of God is poured much later, upon those who accepted the mark of the beast:
"And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image." (Revelation 16:1,2)
So, when is the beast active? During the sixth trumpet of the _seventh_ seal the beast kills the two witnesses (Revelation 11:7). During the seventh trumpet of the seventh seal "the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our Lord, and of his Christ" (Rev 11:15). During the seventh trumpet - specifically as part of the seven vials of God's wrath - the beast and its armies are gathered (Revelation 16:12-16) at Armageddon, then destroyed in "in the battle of that great day of God almighty" (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:11-21).
So, where are the Christians when the vials of God's wrath are poured out? They are with Christ: they rose to meet Him "in the air" as part of the seventh trumpet. What are they doing "in the air"? They are being spared from the wrath of God. And it appears that they are enjoying "the marriage supper of the Lamb"; that marriage supper is mentioned in Revelation 19:7-9, just before Jesus destroys the beast and its gathered armies.
Whoa and thank you.!
@Bobby Allen You are welcome!
Theologically this sounds fine on the surface, but through a thorough study of the subject, long before John Nelson Darby , wrote on the subject, the Apostle Paul in First Thess, 4 and 5 and Jesus own words found in John 14. The consistent theme that "God has not appointed the follower of Christ to wrath, that is the bride of Christ; which you most certainly will find as a recurring statement throughout the Pauline Epistles. The 2nd Advent is when Christ come back and place His feet on the Mt. of Olives and the text says with the saints. The Harpazo in First Thess. 4 is atmospheric event. Questiion How did the saints get there in the first place, when the text in Rev. 19 says that they shall return with Christ. Hank Hanegraaff, what has happened to you? CRI is just not been the same since the days of Dr. Walter Martin, in whom I used to listen to everyday. Calvary Chapels and Chuck Smith are right on. There are many good Bible teachers on this subject that can objectively be listen too. Pastor Stagner, Jack Hibbs, J.D. Farag, Amir Tasarfati Chuck Messler, Bill Salus and many more. As Dr. Martin use to say 'just because the tern trinitas is not found in the Biblical text, doesn't mean that the biblical text does not teach that there is person who is the son who is called God, and that there is a person who is the Spirit who is called God and there is a person who is called the Father that is called God. Things equal to the same thing are equal to each other. As the old Reductio ad absurdum seems to say.
Your reading your ideas into the Text (eisegesis). Were Noah and his family members appointed unto wrath during the Flood? Were the Hebrews appointed unto wrath during the Passover, while in Egypt?
Well, neither will God's kids be appointed unto wrath during the Great Trouble. Ultimately, on Judgment Day, His children will not be appointed unto [eternal] wrath in the Lake of Fire.
@@IndianaJoe0321 indeed! The WORLD WILL SUFFER TRIBULATION . AND some shall be made white in those days , some put to death , and sleep for a short while , and others when they are put to death , their works fallow them , meaning they are raised and become warriors in the heavenly realm , but those ELECT they keep the commandments , and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ , no harm will come to them . They dwell amongst us . They have no part of mainstream churchanty .the WRATH of GOD is the second death.
Madrid Gevara - where do you suppose the believers who have died throughout the centuries are? That's the question that answers your question.
Walter Martin did not hold to the pretribulational rapture either .
Sorry, no rapture, no seven-year sequence, etc. No Left-Behind...none of these themes are biblical.
Disagree with Hank based on what the Bible teaches, if you are convinced he is wrong. Just because Dispensationalism is the prevailing view now does not mean it is biblical. Read some of the old commentators that predate John Darby and his odd innovations and you will find no such doctrines being taught. By the way, the book is Revelation. Read the first verse of the book slowly and carefully without reading anything into it, and reflect on what it really says, not what someone tells you.
Took me a long time to purge myself of dispensational thought. Not sure if I can find an evangelical church in my area that has done so also...
You obviously never really understood it on a deep level or you would not have abandoned it brother.
Au Contraire, on a deep level, dispensationalism is one grand deception. Sorry Darby, sorry Scofield, you have been thoroughly exposed in your evil. Thank goodness for the internet, or I would have believed this nonsense my entire life.
You won’t find a evangelical church because we believe the truth we believe in the rapture
If we don't go to heaven what abodes are Jesus preparing? Why did he say that where I am you may be? If we are changed and remain on earth what happens to us when God destroys the wicked on earth. Are we standing around watching?
@nikloff ~ These articles will address your questions on heaven, the afterlife, and the future resurrection, which is the blessed hope.
www.equip.org/articles/do-believers-receive-resurrected-bodies-when-they-die-or-when-christ-returns-/
www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
Good stuff! 2 Thes 1:7-2:2 is very clear! There is NO pre-trib rapture.
That Scripture does NOT state what you are stating...
Oh yes of course, this is a vision of Christ coming back to earth to judge the wicked and be "glorified in his saints" and "admired of all them that believe"( a special honor among believers) Then Paul continues to pray that God would "count you worthy of this calling", just as Jesus told his followers to pray to be counted worthy of rapture, so as to be in his army to come back and judge the wicked at the end of the tribulation
@@craiglabarbera4134 Since the "tribulation" is NOT mentioned in that passage how is my above statement wrong exactly?
@@craiglabarbera4134 Agree completely, BOTH of those things will happen first. Not sure how people don't see that, it is clear in the text... Will we go through the Trib? Idk, but the more I look and READ it looks like we just may... I have always been taught pre-trib but not sure scripture supports this at all…
@@craiglabarbera4134I pray you are correct. I read the book of Revelation twice though a few weekends ago and didn’t see anything “clearly stating” a pre trib rapture and I was looking for it… Either way our eternity is in HEAVEN with The KING!
the resurrection of the dead,, the conversion to incorruptible bodies, and meeting Jesus in the clouds (1Thess 4:17) is the rapture. Hank is conflating the rapture with the timing of it (pre-trib). it's possible for rapture to be true and pre-trib to be false. so just because pre-trib is not in the Bible doesn't mean rapture is also not in the Bible; this is faulty logic
Wow this is very interesting theology discourse! Finally this stuff is starting to make some sense to me.
How can somebody said that this teaching of this false teacher make sense
@B L you still there?
What's your thoughts on the rapture brother?
You can find the rapture in Daniel 12:1-7, Matthew 24:26-28, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-7 and Revelation 12:14.
Daniel 12:1-7 speaks of the resurrection just like 2 Thess 2 does, but it doesn't speak of anyone being "left behind" to face the antichrist. Matthew 24:26-28 speaks to the manner of which He will return, all eyes will see Him in contrast to Him being found only here or there. 1 Thess. 4:13-18 also speaks of the resurrection as being a powerful event that no one can mistake. Revelation 12:14 states nothing of a resurrection or "rapture". Who was the woman with 12 stars and a sun and moon from which the male child (Christ) came from? Think of Joseph's dream. None of these passages speak of the church going to heaven for seven years while an antichrist wreaks havoc on earth, them returning to setup a 1,000 kingdom in Jerusalem.
Tony M, Daniel 12:1-4 describes the rapture (resurrection and glorification of saints) and what some people will do afterwards (understand prophesy and flee). But why would Jews flee after witnessing the rapture? Because Daniel 12:7 and Revelation 12:14 tell us that the rapture will happen near the middle of the 7 year tribulation, and Daniel 12:11 and Revelation 13 tell us that the manifestation of the Antichrist and abomination will happen at the exact mid-point, so it must happen soon afterwards. And remember that Matthew 24:15-25 advises whomever reads the prophesy and lives in Judea to flee immediately upon seeing the abomination in Daniel setup at the temple.
Of course, these prophesies presume a new temple must have been build in Jerusalem, which means that Israel must have re-established the Mosaic _covenant_ that required a new temple. So why would Jews who recently went through the trouble of re-establishing the Mosaic covenant bother to read the book of Matthew and thus be ready to understand and flee?
Because everyone will be looking for answers after witnessing the rapture. God preordained that the warning they needed would be in the first book of the New Testament, the gospel specifically written to a Jewish audience, when they will be looking for answers for what had just happened.
And regarding people being left behind, Matthew 24:26-28 describes the rapture in metaphorical terms of eagles gathering people, and that metaphor is repeated in Luke 17:22-37 where it answers the question of where people go when one is taken and another left behind. And that same metaphor is used in Revelation 12:14 which links back to Daniel 12:1-7 through the use of the Aramaic phrase ‘a time, times and half a time’.
By the way, Matthew 24:26-28 describes a time when there are mere rumors that the Messiah is somewhere on earth but has not yet manifested, and since we know from Daniel, 2 Thessalonians and Revelation that the Antichrist will rule the world once he manifests, verses 26-28 must describe a time before verses 15-25, which occurs after he manifests. And since the rapture is described in verses 26-28, this alone proves the rapture will occur before the great tribulation starts in the middle of the week.
Tony M, The woman in the vision in Revelation 12:1 represents Israel. The child she gives birth to who ascends to heaven in verse 5 represents Jesus. The woman in verse 6 who afterwards flees for 3.5 years represents the early church in Judea who fled after the sign Jesus gave in Luke 21 was fulfilled. This happened in 66 AD when Romans surrounded Jerusalem then left and didn’t return to encircle and destroy the city and temple until 3.5 years later. So the early church in Judea had 3.5 years to prepare and flee the region, and they stayed away for 3.5 years (just as Revelation 12:6 describes) because that’s how long the war continued, during which time the Romans were killing or enslaving any Jews they caught there.
Bible History Science - I agree with you on Revelation 12. It is rare to see someone on TH-cam who acknowledges that this was not about something that would happen in the far future, but about Christ when He came the first time. I have seen numerous videos of people claiming that this about constellations and the actual sun and moon.
Bible History Science - I'm not a follower of pre, mid or post tribulation rapture theories, to be honest.
This is all wrong. Listen to Adrian Rogers or J. Vernon McGee teach on this to get real teaching on the rapture. He is confusing the rapture and the second coming of Christ
there is no rapture, Only at the Last day are they changed. No rapture to save you from destruction. so annoying listening to these Baptist rapture lies
Good grief we are supposed to be waiting on Christ to return to the earth. Not listening to theories of man's minds.
Not one single scripture says anyone leaves earth unless they die first.
@@awordofwisdomwithcharlotte4670 Yeah actually there is. 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
@@pcooke9865 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS to meet the Lord in the AIR : and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The word AIR GREEK WORD 109. aer ah-ayr' from aemi (to breathe unconsciously, i.e. respire; by analogy, to blow); "air" (as naturally circumambient):--air. Compare 5594.
5590. psuche psoo-khay' from 5594; breath, i.e. (by implication) spirit, abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only; thus distinguished on the one hand from 4151, which is the rational and immortal soul; and on the other from 2222, which is mere vitality, even of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew 5315, 7307 and 2416):--heart (+ -ily), life, mind, soul, + us, + you.
THE WORD CLOUDS is an idiom or expression Paul used (Hebrews 12 :1 ) Other examples we might recognize cloud of locust or cloud of dust .
Meaning gathered in a large group
It does not mean clouds in the sky.
@@awordofwisdomwithcharlotte4670 You said that not one single Scripture says we leave unless we die first. What part of alive and remain are you not understanding?
The Rapture is not a new notion. It's very Biblical.
Jesus is coming back!!! Keep watching it could be now or soon or later the important part is to watch and be ready. I know im ready im very tired of evil death sickness decease famine hate killing murder the curse of satan. I hope it's soon I cant wait
I hope your still keeping positive brother. It has been 5 years
@@paulo7507 im still waiting. Still believing that Jesus is coming back. With all that's been going on lately it seems like it could be really close to the Rapture. James 5:7Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
@@WVhillDweller good to hear you are keeping on string after 5 years
@@paulo7507 if you have time go to my TH-cam channel and check out how i feel about the Rapture. God bless you.
@Patrick Gragg2 Peter 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. Patrick Gragg you are a scoffer. You are denying what the Bible says. The Bible clearly says those who are saved will meet the Lord in the air.
So I take it "The Apocalypse Code" somehow is superior to Scripture???
Everyone needs to listen and go read there bible.
Awesome Hank!
There is a judgement Luke 17:22-37. Noah and Lot were taken out of harms way. The folks that were left behind in the flood and fire were destroyed. The word "taken" in greek is paralambanó which means "to receive from." Believers will be received from the earth but we leave our flesh behind (verse 37). Compare Luke 17 with Luke 21. Jesus does not come back to earth in 17 and He does come back to earth in 21. Two different comings. Maranatha!
Rad it more carefully, those who are "taken away" are the wicked. In the parable of the wheat and tares, which group is gathered first?
We're not going anywhere Jesus is coming here.
I dont agree with Hank the scripture says we will meet the Lord in the air 👆 👉 1 Thessalonians 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 👉 in the clouds, in the air. Hank cant read the scripture.
1THESSALONIANS 4:17
OPEN MY EYES AND BELIEVE! WE ARE THE REAL TRANSFORMERS SAVED BY GRACE IN CHRIST WHO TOOK OUR PLACE OF SIN ON CALVARY!!!
Ever wondered why it says in Acts 11:19 > Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
The apostles were merely obeying what Jesus commanded them - go not to the Gentiles but only to the lost sheep of Israel.
It's only after Paul's conversion that the gospel of grace "to the Gentiles also" was preached.
Rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15) makes perfect sense because it explains what seems as some apparent contradictions between the 4 synoptic gospels and Paul's gospel.
The Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven (on earth) was preached by Jesus to the Jews of those days to demonstrate and reassure them of a coming fulfilment of the promise of the Father to the patriarchs and prophets at the appointed time.
(Christ's second coming is at a time that is indeterminate to all, even the Son).
Mark 13:32-33 > But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
It's also true that the prophetic programme for Israel and the Jews has been postponed after the stoning of Stephen (the sign of the rejection of the Holy Spirit) and particularly after the mystery hidden in God [1 Corinthians 2:7 & Ephesians 3:4-6 ] from the beginning concerning the Gentiles has been revealed through Apostle Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. At His second coming He will establish His Millennium reign from Jerusalem (after He judges the nations that come up against Israel) and He will rule through David on his throne over Israel and the world.
He will also fulfill the Ezekiel prophecy concerning the dry bones coming to life in the land of Israel when He brings to life the Old Testament Jewish Believers (including the Patriarchs and Prophets) that predate His incarnation, and sprinkle them with water and give them a new spirit i.e. born again, with water and spirit [Ezekiel 36:24-26 ] and they will reign with Christ for a thousand years. (the "born again" above are "part of the first resurrection" and therefore have no part in the second death).
He will both purify their lips and also restore the purity of the Hebrew language and over a generation or so, Hebrew will be the universal language of governmental administration. Other languages will fade away and thus the prophecy that "tongues will cease" will be fulfilled.(1 Corinthians 13:8)
The rapture teaching hovering around the onset of the great tribulation or in that period is based on two or three assumptions that are not really tenable for multiple reasons and ignoring verses that point away from those assumptions.
John 17:15, 20 > I pray "not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil"... Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through "their" word;
(though "I pray not ... take them out of the world" is directly addressed to the Jews at that time, it has general applicability).
2 Thessalonians 1:4-9 > ... patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: ... you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be "punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord", and from the glory of His power;
(Contrary to most preachings the Great Tribulation is not the wrath of God but the work of the Antichrist and Satan - and in any event Paul states we are to endure persecutions and tribulations; the wrath of God that Believers will be spared from is the everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord at His third coming and for that alone we should be grateful).
2 Corinthians 12:2-4 > I knew a man in Christ ... one caught "up to the third heaven". And I knew such a man ... How that he was "caught up into paradise", ...
Paul narrating the vision states that he (probably John) was caught "up to" the third heaven but that he was caught "up into" paradise. Notice the difference in words "up to" vs "up into". Upto means close to get a peek but still outside heaven while into paradise means inside paradise.
After the resurrections on the last day of the Millennium reign, this the First Earth will pass away and thereafter the New Earth will come down from Heaven and God will dwell with Believers for eternity. - Revelation 21:1-2.
John 14:2-3 > In my Father's house are many mansions: ... if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto Myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
["a place" is referring to incorruptible covering if rightly read along with 2 Corinthians 5:1-8]
2 Corinthians 5: 1-4 > For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, ... eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: ... For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 > For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
The above verses do not state that He will come to take you to Heaven; on the contrary it means that where He is (on the New Earth) at the appointed time according to His purpose and plan, you also will be. He does not operate a shuttle service to take Believers to Heaven on their death.
Remember Enoch is not in heaven else the Word of God will not declare in John 3:12-13 > ... And no man hath ascended up to Heaven, but He that came down from Heaven, even the Son of man which is in Heaven.
Besides, it says in Psalm 115:16 > The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath He given to the children of men.
There will be no mass ascension of Believers to Heaven even at His second coming for multiple reasons according to the Scriptures e.g.
(i) in John 6:39,40 & 44, three times He clearly states "raise up at the Last Day."
(ii) in 1 Corinthians 15:52 it says " In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, "at the last trump": for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
(iii) in Job 14: 12-14, it says "So man lieth down, and riseth not: "till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep".
O that Thou wouldest hide me in the grave, ... until Thy wrath be past, that Thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! ... all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come." [from the corruptible to the incorruptible].
Finally, at the end of the millennium at His third coming, Satan, Death and Hell are all cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10, 14) and then there will be the resurrections - (i) Believers will be gathered unto Him and Resurrected to Life (part of first resurrection) as promised and (ii) all others (atheists, agnostics, religion followers) to the Resurrection to Judgement when He will judge them not according to what mortal Man considers as good works but on His standard of righteousness and it's possible that He may well have mercy or compassion "on some of them" e.g. Romans 9:15-16 > For He saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
As one who believes that all of the Word of God is Truth, in context and time, this is the only possible way that has no contradictions.
Wow! Thanks Hank! I have struggled to find any verse supporting a pre-trib rapture myself. And being surrounded by this belief from many denominations that seem to be intolerant of any deviation from this view has been a lonely slog. Thanks again.
Edward Elliott True. I have found that if you try to walk in obedience to Christ, it is a very lonely path because Christ's way is in fact radical considering it is so contrary to the ways people do things on any given day. When you choose to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow Jesus daily, it is lonely. Thankfully He is present with us always.
You can search TH-cam for Dr Mark Hitchcock's lecture on pre-tribulation rapture. very good. and there are others.
Here's another video on our channel specifically about the Pre-Tribulational Rapture: th-cam.com/video/paJ28-Vud5k/w-d-xo.html
Adamic [man] amen brother
@Anyta
No! They are sealed by the blood of the Lamb of God.
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, *till* we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
{Revelation 7:3}
It does not read till we have raptured the servants of God...
I think the caller wanted to know which scripture verses is used by many churches today that brings them to teach the pre-tribulation rapture, whether it's in the scriptures or not.
@Faithful_Watchman Surprisingly, there are 0 verse that inform them. There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture - the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millenniums.
@@BibleAnswerMan: I agree that scripture does not support a pre-tribulation rapture. My point (thus the reason for my initial post) is to point out the caller, more than likely, just wanted to know which scripture verses are used by churches today that brings them to teach the pre-tribulation rapture, even though it' not in scripture. Personally, I know, because I'm well-versed in scripture, but I think that was what the caller wanted to know.
@@BibleAnswerManHebrews 9:28 so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many and UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR the SECOND TIME without sin unto salvation
Notice ONLY those who are looking for him will see him, if you are expecting a post-tribulation rapture you will not be looking for him now,
we were told early on to watch and wait for you know not when the master will return,
he didn't say give it some time and later off there in the distant future you can start looking for me at some later date, after you see all these troubles come upon the earth
BUT IN Revelation 1:7 every eye shall see him and every kindred will wail because of him....(Out of fear and grief, wail is not a happy word)
If this is your supposed post-tribulation rapture why wouldn't you be happy to see him? Why would the church wail, isn't this their rescue?
And notice every eye sees him coming on the clouds, not just the few who are looking for him as in Hebrews 9:28.
As in the days of Noah, people are eating and drinking and they're giving in marriage and it's business as usual life goes on at it's regular pace.....
But when he sets his foot on the Mount of Olives at the end of the tribulation and a great earthquake occurs, the Earth is a ruinous heap, there is blood standing in a megiddo valley as high as the horses bridal stretching for 200 miles, there's no breathable air there's no drinkable water there is no food 2/3 of the Earth's population is dead and All that remains on the surface of the Earth are the enemies of God and the remnant of Israel which he has come to save....
At 1:03 you read the scripture incorrectly. It should be "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." This proves the pre-trib rapture. There are short trumpet sounds called "trumps" and there are long sounds known as "trumpets", the trumps come before the trumpets, and the last "trump" is before the first "trumpet", so all before the first trumpet, at the last trump, also called the "Tekiah Gedolah", we are raptured.
Don Cleveland
God is not the author of confusion but the "pretrib rapture" certainly is!
@@slojogojo2766 Actually, for those who aren't his, God is the author of confusion, and if you aren't his Child, you will not understand. There are many that aren't his that argue against the pre-trib rapture, because they just don't see it. I understand, God made it that way. The Bible actually says this, and so do other preachers. If you want to look up the name of the "last trump" you can, it is called the Tekiah Gedolah.
@@slojogojo2766 The pre-trib rapture is not confused, it is the Blessed Hope. If you believe in a post-trib rapture, your blessed hope is decapitation.
@@doncleveland1245 Christ is our hope not some theory
At the last trump ALL are changed as u said.. doesn't say anyone leaves earth.. in fact unless we die first,we don't leave earth.. there is not a single scripture that says otherwise.
God uses trumps to teach there are 7.. at the 6th one satan is kicked to earth and PRETENDS TO BE GOD. At the 7th one Christ returns to the earth,all flesh is gone. Those who worship satan in his role as false christ,get God's wrath.
Those who don't are gathered to Christ on earth..
Christ said AFTER tribulation not before or during,He returns to the earth.
Thanks, Hank. I used to not care much for end times things, and in the last 4 years became *very* curious, but never really saw it until today.
The rapture is going to happen very soon. Many of us have had multiple rapture dreams from the Lord and they are all vivid. Pretribulation rapture is 100% accurate. Jesus is coming very soon, get right with God.
One got even the date of the Rapture, when it did not happen, he said, the Lord lied to him. You are deceived (2. Thess 2:1-4). Jesus (Mat 24:29-31) and Paul taught Post-trib
Doctrine must be based on Scripture, not "dreams" or private revelations!
We are nowhere close. Read the Bible and see what has to be taking place before Jesus comes back.
No Rapture. Those taken first are destroyed, the angels gathering the evil people and unbelievers. Those that are left will be gathered together for Jesus' flock. Matthew 13: 36-43. But we will all go through tribulation and trials. The only people being taken up are the 144,000, 12,000 from each Tribe of Israel. ( Those may be the babies who were killed for Moses and Jesus' birth)
Please do not rely on dreams. Read your Bible.
How is it possible to remove the translation of 1 Cor. 15:52 for the Last Trumpet of Revelation 11:15-18? How is it also possible to remove the Marriage of Christ from its connection with the Destruction of Jerusalem- Matthew 22:1-8 & Revelation 19:1-8? See more on Atavist Biblical Church site. God bless you.
I think 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 is so clear about when Jesus will come and take us! Why don’t even mention that in your explanation! Thanks for the program though!
Listen again, he does mention Thessolonians
It seems to me that the “gathering together unto him” (2 Thessalonians 2:1) does not necessarily uphold the idea of a rapture of the church. This fragment of scripture is further explained as let not you be shaken, troubled or deceived but be thankful and stand fast to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. God bless.
It isn't in the Bible ... Judgement starts at the pulpit... I state my case with Ezekiel 13 ... I'm against those who teach my children to fly to save their souls ... I will snatch them from your hands and you will know I AM the Lord your God .... Read it for yourself ... Then go to 2 Thessalonians 2: 3 Let no man deceive you.... God Bless you and keep you safe ....
Great explanation. Thank you and God bless.
Scripture is written for our example. When you see it in scripture then it can happen again, nothing new under the sun. RAPTURE . ENOCH WAS FOUND FAITHFUL IN HIS GENERATION AND GOD TOOK HIM THAT HE MIGHT NOT SEE DEATH. Gen 4:17 also Hebrews 11,
Noah was Enochs Grandson, methuselah ( which means when he dies it will come or judgment. SOME WILL BE TAKEN SOME WILL BE LEFT ( JESUS SAID HOPE YOUR COUNTED WORTHY TO MISS IT)
Preach this to a lot of preachers(and thanks a lot)
Question: Question: When you miss a train or an airplane or a boat... do you say ''Ah... I have been taken aboard'' or ''Oh dear! They've gone without me, and I have been left behind!'' Clearly, we say the latter (''''Oh dear! They've gone without me, and I have been left behind!'' ) One can easily imagine those very words were said by those LEFT BEHIND outside of Noah's Ark. IN CONTEXT, Jesus' words ''... the one shall be taken, the other left behind'' clearly imply that being TAKEN - ie: entering into or being taken into the safe place made by God - is a GOOD THING. We WANT to be taken on board the Ark... or taken into Heaven to be with Christ in His celestial Jerusalem.
Further, why did Christ promise his Faithful that He was making rooms in Heaven for His faithful? When would these rooms ever get used, if the Faithful are only destined to rise into the air... and then return to EARTH to reign with Christ on Earth? If these rooms are never to be used, then this is tantamount to saying Christ is a liar. What are the rooms in Heaven being used for? Occasional rent when we visit the Celestial City?
There is a pretrib rapture
Since my comment was deleted...true, rapture does not appear by name...nor do other key biblical concepts (trinity, bible, etc)...Some good works on the subject "The Rapture Question" (Walvoord) "The Rapture"(D Stewart)......"50 reasons to support a pre-tribulation rapture" (Walvoord)...my point, alot of serious thinking was done long before this radio broadcast.
I myself have studied scripture for over 35 years an I done see any rapture.if its possible show me exactly where.
Bob... Rapture is the result of the conferences held at Albury Cricle and Powers court. with Margret MacDonald's theory of the two taken's (aka Rapture) thrown in. Think of it as dispensationalism and rapture. It was contrived by protestants standing against the Catholic Church as well as the government run churches of Ireland, Scotland, and England. The doctrine was strongly believed by J N Darby and the Plymouth Brethren, which is how it spread to America..... Its now the mainstream doctrine of the Baptist and Methodist church systems in America.
@@danitewatchman6538 satan is always there when a people separate from inequity ,
Your history is correct, @@danitewatchman6538, but the teaching is not.
@@IndianaJoe0321 Its not my teaching, its specifically what is written in our Fathers word... There is no rapture written there that edifice is purely a doctrine concocted by mankind... Its a doctrine based upon the need to judge and control other humans, stating in its wake a multitude of falsehoods which shall cause people to fall upon their knees and worship Satan himself. The greatest being there will be a seven year time of great evil upon the earth, which "The Church" avoids via a rapture., when the texts state that 7 years found in Daniel, were shortened (Mark 13 & Rev 9 & Rev 11) to 5mo and 42 mo, and that Satan comes peaceably spreading the spoils and the wealth (Daniel 11) ............ Satan will be here upon this earth proclaiming himself to be Immanuel (2 Thessalonians 2)........ And those who espouse rapture will love him totally and completely....... That is the whole point of the test (also referred to as a Tribulation), to see if flesh humans will fall for the great deception of Satan. ...... Rapturists will refute that truth until the two witnesses (Elijah and Moses) stand up upon their feet, after three and one half days of appearing to be dead (Rev 11)...... Its not my teaching ... it is the written word ... Sorry if it refutes your assumptions.... it does the same for many many people who have fallen in the trap of deception.
Someone has told you all that stuff, @@danitewatchman6538. It's just fresh (150 yrs old) ideas shoehorned into the Text. None of it is in the Bible.
My point is that nobody can read The Bible and derive that Pre-Tribulation idea on their own. Nobody. It must be taught to the reader.
Is it a metaphor though? The word "raptura" is found in the Greek bible.
I'm not sure about what he's talking about some metaphor, but I agree there is no such thing as a pre-trib rapture. It is pre-wrath.
You are wrong dawg.
1. It is a metaphor for an inner spiritual transformation of constant intimacy with the Lord.
2. It happens immediately after the Tribulation of those days, the Lord said Himself.
3. It is without Wrath. Do you not believe that God can protect His people even if they are on an earth also inhabited by the wicked receiving Wrath ?
@@thenowchurch6419 the 144000 WILL BE ON EARTH , THRU IT ALL . SORRY FOLKS .
It's so sad that many don't believe what the Bible actually says. The Bible uses the word Harpazo, which means taken away by force, which the word Harpazo in Latin means Rapturus which we take the word Rapture. You don't have to use the word Rapture but the word used is "taken away" which means again, taken by force same word used when God took Enoch, Elisha, and Paul to Heaven! People need to actually do their homework. Rapture didnt start with Darby, the doctrine is in the Bible just like the Trinity is in the Bible.
REv. 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. At no time in history has the church in Philidelphia been protected from any world wide hour of tempation! Hence a future event, Hence a pre-trib rapture! Easy!
But ... where is the church for most of Revelation? Why are the only saved people mentioned are those that didn't take the mark? Does that mean all Christians will either starve or be brutally murdered during tribulation?
@davefields2881 Those questions do make a pretribulation rapture difficult. But what if most of the Book of Revelation has already been fulfilled. Then the pretribulation rapture is certainly impossible. See
www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/
@@BibleAnswerMan my time is better spent reading the Bible. What trumpet are we on now? Is there an answer to my original questions? They were in support of a pretribulation rapture.
Great answer stick to Scripture...!!!
Mr Hendergraff, what is the meaning of the last 8 chapters of Ezekie;l and the rebuilt Temple where the Levitical sacrifices are re-instated? What period of time is ezekiel describing?
We are told in the scriptures to look for Jesus not the Anti-Christ.
We are told to be wary of those claiming Jesus has returned, and to watch out for the Antichrist, so no. What you have said is not accurate.
"Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. . . . At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect-if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. So, if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.”
Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”
Just don't go crazy with it.
We *are* however told to be prepared for Jesus' return.
Pre trib rapture was taught long before Darby.
100% correct in every single statement.
It was Noah who was “taken away” from the destruction. He was set aside while the destruction was happening. I don’t know how anyone would say that it’s the people who were “taken away”, when they were clearly left there to die, they weren’t “taken” out of the scene at all. They were left right where they were to die. It is NOAH who was removed from the scenario that destroyed everyone. He was “taken away” from the turmoil. And then, when it was safe to “return”, after the destruction was over, he disembarked and returned to terra firma. I don’t know how anyone would see it the other way around.
WOW: this makes SO much more sense than anything else I've heard! Thanks!
He (Hank) usually achieves that. Near the end, he even says he doesn't see where it (rapture) is clearly stated in the Bible. But he won't rule it out , either. In other words, not a clear cut declaration either way.
Question. How will God save the Church, Christians all over the world, from
His full Wrath? God always saves and protect (Lot, Noah, Moses) His People from His Wrath. The mystery of the dead being raised and the living being caught up in the clouds with the Lord.
Why would God pour out His full Wrath on His people? God told Moses how to protect and save His people from His Wrath, and He also told Lot and Noah. I believe God has also told Apostle John how God will protect and save His people from His Full Wrath. I believe there is a Huge misunderstanding or confusion.
Great caller! Came across as a True berean
If the rapture is not taught in scripture, how can so many so-called Bible-based churches insist on it? They not only teach it, they splinter and split over myriad opinions re: various speculative details of their non-scriptural plans.
@PUAlum - This is not a popularity contest. If most students in the math class answered the math problem 1+1=3, it only means the majority got the answer to the question wrong.
@@BibleAnswerMan a term I remember from math (which was not my forte!) was proof. A frequent instruction on tests was “show your work”. No promoter of a specific position on the rapture or the millennium can do either without convoluted machinations. That alone suggests these are not central doctrines and should not cause divisions. Too many (so-called) evangelicals have majored in the minors to the harm of many.