Learn about warning signs and body language before the aggression. Re-post.

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  • @solideomusical
    @solideomusical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I find it very endearing when Prince does the 'play bow.' That would make a cool T-shirt.

    • @amandamilobooks
      @amandamilobooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oooh, yes! That would be adorable and a great design. 😃

    • @ninabukovics2802
      @ninabukovics2802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d buy it 😁

  • @ThinkingAhead2
    @ThinkingAhead2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Love the freeze frame. I’ve thought for a while that you should incorporate those, as well as rewinds and re-watches. Like do the voiceover with original video, point out some behavior that we normal people need to watch for, then rewind and show us again, maybe even slow motion or zoomed in. Keep up the great work and thanks for all you show.

  • @Shotgun-Tre
    @Shotgun-Tre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The chow foundation mixed with the Labrador’s lack of acknowledgment with corrections makes for a tough cookie. Labs don’t really care for corrections, they literally write them off and usually go back to playing. The Chow in him is taking that “go back to playing” to a different level. It’s interesting but definitely makes for a tough cookie for a dog

    • @Nocomment552
      @Nocomment552 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don’t get me started on Labradors denseness. My lab is such a meathead 🤦‍♀️

    • @johnanon658
      @johnanon658 ปีที่แล้ว

      Garbage rescue mutt w crossed wires

    • @learnfacts101
      @learnfacts101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously not doing a good job on corrections then, mine never has issues. We also have a strong relationship.

    • @Shotgun-Tre
      @Shotgun-Tre ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not saying they don’t take the corrections. I mean they wouldn’t hold a grudge from the corrections. (If your were talking about the lab.)

    • @The.Vikingr
      @The.Vikingr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My lab is like a brick he doesnt care. Once he got hit hard on the head and he brushed it off like someone pet him harder than usual😂

  • @PageNumber687x
    @PageNumber687x ปีที่แล้ว +18

    as soon as you first mentioned the black tongue... CHOW! i was a dog groomer for ten years. the first dog that ever got aggressive with me was a chow in my first two weeks of grooming because no one else wanted to deal with him because he was aggressive for no reason so they pawned him off on the newbie. i've met several chows since, and one of my top five favourite dogs that i groomed regularly in that decade was a full chow... but man, chows still make me leary. i trusted the wolf hybrid we knew was a hybrid but couldn't prove it because his vet papers said "german shepherd mix" more than almost any chow.

  • @robertkezer3665
    @robertkezer3665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To this dog, it is fun. He loves it. I have an ex-fighting dog now. He loves it. His owners made him love doing it. He always was rewarded. Now I have to break all that. Takes lots of time.

  • @vbnbnbxmnxfm
    @vbnbnbxmnxfm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Chow mixes are some of the hardest breeds to train. They are a very old breed and they have some specific things they don't like. It takes extra time to get them used to the leash. I had a 50/50 chow and he hated being held, hated leashes, hated any restraint whatsoever. However, he like the ball so we were able to redirect his behavior using a ball. It didn't correct the behavior, it just made it manageable. Luckily he was not dog aggressive and got along with cats too, so it was mostly just human social stuff he had to overcome and as long as there was a ball, he was happy.

  • @DankDankPancake
    @DankDankPancake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Every time the dog is corrected with the leash, I just imagine prince thinking to himself: haha that doesn’t feel good does it.

    • @Castigar48
      @Castigar48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he knows...he knows

  • @missonmanband19
    @missonmanband19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow what a tough mix Chow/Lab. Fascinating body language from your point of view. Lip licks,tail wag, eye to eye and the best his energy excelled by the leash correction and non caring. BUT your knee flips and the quick pop to loosen that energy from the leash was an amazing piece of information! Plus your touch’s to the head to clam. Thank you

  • @lizzie8197
    @lizzie8197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The warning signs were there the whole time, at least from what I saw! It’s just hard to know in what direction it will continue , because as you said, it can go both ways.

    • @katec708
      @katec708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah there wasnt a single point where the dog was actually being friendly. at the beginning he was being tolerant and feeling the situation out, but was still posturing the whole time. it was only a matter of time before he finally decided to become aggressive.

    • @candypuke
      @candypuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      not really tbh

    • @ORSkie
      @ORSkie ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, he was always a bit tense. I didn't find the tailwags completely friendly. And his eyes weren't soft.

    • @ORSkie
      @ORSkie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His mouth was for the most part tensely closed even when he panted he was either whining or it was a tense mouth even with the mouth open there was no relaxed happy panting.

  • @KingsMom831
    @KingsMom831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I came back to watch this a second time earlier and it was private. I’m glad you’re reuploaded more clips with the same dog.

  • @Catbooks
    @Catbooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah, I'd have done the same thing you did. He seemed good with Prince behind the fence, and even when he came out. The dog's body was relaxed for the most part, although his hackles did come up a couple of times. Loved the freeze-frame.

  • @nekobx2094
    @nekobx2094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Is it possible he isn't fulfilling his exercise needs? Seems a little overweight. Maybe built up frustration.
    The brain seems so fixated

    • @bbycherub2420
      @bbycherub2420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I noticed that I thought it was a rottweiler because of the fatness/thickness but he's not, probably a chow Labrador mix or something?

    • @nekobx2094
      @nekobx2094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bbycherub2420 yeah I can see a chow lab mix also. Definitely lab

    • @JustADogLover396
      @JustADogLover396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES! Exercise is very important to dog training.

  • @jeiwaru
    @jeiwaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Dang. Did someone steal my dog and take him for a session with you 🤔? He's a neutered half lab-mix half chow. It's almost like he's tryina make up for his lost balls. So macho for no reason. Thanks for uploading this!

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cant be much chow in your dog if it looks like this.

    • @AHHHHHH107
      @AHHHHHH107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure if it's true but I've heard that neutered male dogs become insecure around un-neutered dogs and they become aggressive. Just what I heard doesn't make it true

    • @jeiwaru
      @jeiwaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vikingdogmanship Embark says he's 50% pure Chow. Dunno if that counts as "much" in your book

    • @jeiwaru
      @jeiwaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AHHHHHH107 I've heard this too. And it seems to be a pattern with my dog. Not sure if it's because he's neutered or just has a weak temperament. Probably the latter but I don't know for sure either 🤷

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeiwaru Got the best from both worlds🤣

  • @KingsMom831
    @KingsMom831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Way too much intensity, his staring is intimidating for many other dogs.

    • @affectedhalf
      @affectedhalf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That with the constant lip licking and some stiffness in the body (neck and head held high). The part that made me nervous was how much lip licking he was doing from the start with Prince

  • @paulafelipe1694
    @paulafelipe1694 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had the impression from past experience that Chows are unpredictable and can turn aggressive quickly

  • @ElizabethJW
    @ElizabethJW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My almost 2 year old Siberian Husky does not like young male puppies. Typically they are intact so I think that is why but I don’t know for sure. I’m watching tons of your videos to try to understand how I can help correct this terrible behavior along with on leash dog aggression. Thank you for these videos!

  • @sararahtz8574
    @sararahtz8574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have to be honest I was never a Doberman fan, mostly bc I knew nothing about them. Not anything against the breed, I have a pit, just for some reason wasn't really interested as far as owning one. Prince has completely changed my mind on that. Prince is the perfect dog!! He's beautiful. Yes a lot of that speaks to your training, but it says a lot about his breed as well.

    • @blueflare3848
      @blueflare3848 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doberman's are beautiful dogs, but I heard they can be high energy and a bit high strung. Probably not the dog for me, though I can appreciate them. I do love pitties, though. I plan on getting one for my next dog.

    • @dogsenseforu301
      @dogsenseforu301 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Breeding + great owner (who knows which breeder and which pup to pick) + great training + never left >4 hre + > 1hr exercise + >1 hr mental exercise (Prince gets a ton of both esp helping other dogs) + dog socialisation + consistency (way the trickiest for most people) .... Alas most people are not doing all those

  • @Addiction35
    @Addiction35 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting an 8 week old Weimaraner on Feb 2nd. I do not plan on neutering him. Thanks for this video. I need to learn the body language signs of escalation so I can stop the fight before it starts.

  • @sixkings7831
    @sixkings7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would exercise the dog before training help move the fog along with the corrections . Ty great video

  • @kellyoshea9235
    @kellyoshea9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate this video on body language of dogs. I really want to learn more so I can better anticipate trouble at the dog park or on walks. I’d also like to understand why sometimes ( rarely) my dog ( who is super mellow) barks ( not friendly and just one time) at another dog on walks.

  • @myrjoline
    @myrjoline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey Joel, my bf's whiny rescued dog is very friendly towards other dogs but he also gets more aggressive/frustrated because of leash corrections (regular collar, no tools). He basically gets a leash pop when he pulls or breaks his heeling whether there is another dog or not. Loose leash walking is getting better but now I have to deal with this learned aggressive behaviour. I Think he needs to be desensitized to dogs from afar but would like a second opinion... Since I'm not sure this could work... Thanks!

  • @Cathan1856
    @Cathan1856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Probably good thing he didn’t re-direct on yourself, he was a bit scary sometimes, thought he might.

  • @kodamoose5905
    @kodamoose5905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Prince there ready to help his Dad if needed 💙

  • @cmarthu57
    @cmarthu57 ปีที่แล้ว

    This the same problem I’m having with my older rescue. However I had my dog for a couple months before he was neutered and before this, he never showed any aggression. During this time he lived in a house with my dad’s unneutered male Yorkie with no problems. A few weeks after he was neutered he became aggressive towards any and all unneutered males (including the yorkie that he previously liked). The strength of the reaction varies, but sometimes when we pass an unneutered male even at a distance when out for a walk he goes crazy (shaking, snarling, lunging). His tail also wags rapidly during episodes, but he doesn’t seem happy or excited (at least it in a good way), just really upset and essentially unresponsive (it’s like he can’t even see or hear me even though he is normally very obedient). I found this video while looking for solutions. He is a small breed (20ish lbs, shih tzu or havanese mix maybe, so not super aggressive breeds I think). He is very social and makes friends immediately with all people and all dogs (apart from unneutered males). I literally found him half dead on the street, so I have no idea on age or history (maybe he had aggression or dominance issues previously but he was nothing but mild mannered when I brought him home). If it’s just a dominance thing (like I believe is the conclusion drawn in the case in the video) I don’t understand why it would only manifest after neutering. I know all cases are unique, but there seems to be an almost primal biological response that (at least in my dog’s case) manifested after neutering for some reason and may be a factor to consider in cases like this though.
    Would love to know if this dog ever improved though, and if so what was the key. I’ve looked for follow up videos, but don’t see any.

  • @hussley1101
    @hussley1101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    im sorry but after the dog goes at Prince a bunch, being made to sit still for a few seconds, then Joel just out-of-the-blue "You done a DNA test"? at 5:47 almost killed me

    • @audbentley86
      @audbentley86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? For some reason this made me crack up too!

    • @catherinecollins8363
      @catherinecollins8363 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s bc of the tongue I think that’s where he finally noticed it

  • @amandamilobooks
    @amandamilobooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome educational session. Thank you!!

  • @jodiewatson1610
    @jodiewatson1610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The fact that the dog is severely overweight probably doesn’t help his situation 🙄

  • @evaenglund5497
    @evaenglund5497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for letting us know more about how to read dogs ❤❤❤❤

  • @terridavis9278
    @terridavis9278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That tail wag doesn't mean this dog is friendly or happy.

    • @prozierozie5692
      @prozierozie5692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's just means excitement, which can go either way.

  • @rebeccamarinshaw9063
    @rebeccamarinshaw9063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an unneutered male Entlebucher/Swiss Mountain Cattle dog who got along with dogs, however I discovered there were a few dogs that did not like him because he was intact. At a dog beach, a dog just went after and chased my dog and bit him on the butt. The owner got a hold of his dog and apologized. I then asked the owner if the dog had all his shots after his dog bit my dog. Luckily his dog did not break the skin on my dog. Fortunately, that only happened once at the dog beach.

  • @koloblician5330
    @koloblician5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I have that issue sometimes no matter how hard the correction or flip is, my dog will not adjust and just wants to stay focused on whatever he's looking at.

    • @lilianamatasaru3564
      @lilianamatasaru3564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same issue with my dog!! I'm thinking of getting him a gentle leader to fix that.

    • @koloblician5330
      @koloblician5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lilianamatasaru3564 The gentle leader has for sure made the corrections easier, its just sometimes my dog feels like he has a split personality and no amount of correction even on gentle leader matters to him! Other times he's a perfect and requires very few corrections at all, he might still focus on things and not want to turn away from them but he doesn't wander or pull.

    • @lilianamatasaru3564
      @lilianamatasaru3564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@koloblician5330 that's really interesting!! Have you noticed a difference in the stimulus that he seems to be fixated on with the corrections not working?

    • @koloblician5330
      @koloblician5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilianamatasaru3564 Thats the odd part is that we walk by the same dog who is never on a leash or fenced in and sometimes he'll stare at them and some times he will act like the dog isn't even there and walk right by. Same with squirrels, so I'm trying to find a pattern or trigger and its just odd to me so best I can describe it as is him having multiple personalities lol.

    • @athomehoustonbordercollier2035
      @athomehoustonbordercollier2035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how the brain is wired. Try to find the triggers and work on that and be overly aware. Called jekyll and hide. I hope you are able to manage it. Some herbs can help if flight fight

  • @PedrazaArt1
    @PedrazaArt1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve seen another trainer on TH-cam
    Hold and lay the aggressor dog
    Down on its side and let the other dog come up and smell him
    Meanwhile holding down the aggressive one until he is completely calm, which can takes AWHILE
    What are your thoughts on that?

    • @athomehoustonbordercollier2035
      @athomehoustonbordercollier2035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Old school dominance. No for me!! And it doesn't transfer when no one holds the dog down so what does the dog learn 🤔

    • @Shotgun-Tre
      @Shotgun-Tre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@athomehoustonbordercollier2035 it works for some and less for others. Just a matter of figuring out what the dog needs.

    • @JustADogLover396
      @JustADogLover396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@athomehoustonbordercollier2035 This is, to me, the correct way to do it. See, it takes patience to train a dog. It always works for me. The way he yanks the leash then yells at the dog isn't really great to me. First off, it can harm his neck. Second, dogs don't respond well to yelling. I never yell at my dogs, its better to stay calm and collected while training, in fact it's one of the most important things in training.

  • @kindiz
    @kindiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The freezeframe. I saw that exact thing in an english staff (male), who for some reason just really hated my english bull terrier (female). She was trying to appease him with every trick in the book, but it didn't work, and he pinned her down in the dirt and barked wildly at her. We haven't put those two in the same space again since then. And apparently he did this same thing alter on with two other female dogs of an entirely different breed. He seems to do fine with male dogs, though.

  • @grassfolk
    @grassfolk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great to see the muzzle stuff.
    I know the guy mentioned the prong the first time round - @Joel do you think the escalation with correction is because of the prong use?
    Or is that sometimes a dog personality, if they get in that red zone?
    I enjoyed this earlier - found the different edit interesting also.

    • @pmlm1571
      @pmlm1571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I also was v interested when Joel said the dog gets "worse with the corrections." Then he expanded that though Joel tried to keep the corrects snappy, whenever due to the dog's strength and size there was just plain pulling the dog just amped up. But I think it is also true that even the good snaps didn't stick--the dog took them, but just as sort of a break from his ongoing habit of bossing the other dog...imo

    • @grassfolk
      @grassfolk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pmlm1571 that makes sense, I thought he was saying he was trying to get it to pop, but the dog paid no heed.
      It may have been timing (as Joel is so on point) but it looked like related escalation

  • @watchmoivies123
    @watchmoivies123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He possibly Has some arthritis in his back legs

  • @OEWNRKandFriends
    @OEWNRKandFriends 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah, the owners should do an Embark Dog DNA Test for best results. Shar Pei also have blue-black tongues. But, I also think Chow. However. That Lab Mix may have a few other breeds in it's ancestry.

  • @petermahr2511
    @petermahr2511 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think it would help to put him down when he was aggressive with Prince?

  • @briantarraferro7334
    @briantarraferro7334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kangals - Genetically bred for thousands of years to guard and protect. Naturally, stand firm, square shoulders, lock eyes, and growl, first, when meeting any new animal or human, then relax after they perceive other animal or human is not a threat. They do this from birth. I have 2 litter mates, male/female, 16 weeks old, highly intelligent, obedient, fast learners, well trained, but it is naturally/genetically bred into them face danger head on. Any suggestions?

  • @grethen123
    @grethen123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @andihd8768
    @andihd8768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Was this the one posted earlier, but when opened said private view only? That was weird, right?
    Another great session Joel! Thank you for this information. Another piece to add to the puzzle 🙏
    Hi everyone!!!
    🐾🐕

  • @angelinacamacho8575
    @angelinacamacho8575 ปีที่แล้ว

    My besenji, yorkie, shi-tsu, poodle mix used to hate un neutered dogs so each time my friend brought his unneutred pit over i had to crate my dog who is neutered. My 13 yr old lab had no issues with this dog unless he tried to get to nosey (she was spayed) eventually my mutt got over his issue of unneutered dogs so much so he and my friends pit are now best friends and love to play together. It took a lot of taking him out before the dog came over, rewarding good behavior, putting my pup away when he got snappy snd waiting for him to calm down as well as keeping him on leash until he was trusted. Now he doesnt care if any dog he meets is fixed, male, or female just that they want to play with him 😊

  • @ShikyFAV
    @ShikyFAV วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you for your tips

  • @kevindawsonmusicvariety7613
    @kevindawsonmusicvariety7613 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:28 im a 35 year old boy and ill never change my ways regardless of how many times close friends and family tell me i most definitely should.

  • @johnlarkin9594
    @johnlarkin9594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hunger is a great trainer, before training miss some meals and use hunger as a tool.....it could work.....
    Southampton UK 🇬🇧

    • @neilurquhart8622
      @neilurquhart8622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d be really interested to hear dog trainers views on this PLUS any other owners opinions and successes failures🇬🇧

  • @angela_tarantulas
    @angela_tarantulas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great educational video! I can get a lot from your work! Got a GSD mix from a rescue and he‘s dog reactive abd has a bite history with joggers and bikers at his previous owner 🙄

  • @ig681
    @ig681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I was wondering at what point do you consider using drugs to calm the dog down along with training for behavioral modification?

  • @motorola4762
    @motorola4762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why are so many dogs so fat? Apart of the health issue it makes it even more difficult to hold them.

  • @abshakamalu
    @abshakamalu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did u try to put him with a whole pack (5-10 dogs). let him get in an area where 10 dogs are chilled? would that help?

  • @ulutasatilla
    @ulutasatilla ปีที่แล้ว

    5:01 i’ve always always had dogs fight one another when they’d get in this kinda of position. Crazy how much their body signs give it away if you just really pay attention

  • @OEWNRKandFriends
    @OEWNRKandFriends 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New research results by some big veterinarian colleges are finding that spay / neuter is *not* healthy for some breeds. Such as the labrador, german shepherd, rottweiler, golden retriever, and viszla. My owner did a survey of her own, years ago, on American Pit Bull Terrier and found that if one were to combine all 5 other breeds mentioned and multiply the problems 20 times; that is what the APBT can suffer if S/N'd at any time in it's life. This is one reason why I'm still intact. I'd have to be Retired if I developed any of those health problems caused by S/N. It's also a reason why my predecessor was Ovary Sparing Spayed.

  • @tennnine
    @tennnine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Joel - may be you could add the advise to my question in one of your videos, I have 2 year old Indian hound, we worked with him for about 7 months at a board and train and bringing him back home this week . I have another femal 1 year old at home who is also an Indian hound. How do I obedience train and feed then because there seems to a good amount of resource guarding going on

  • @jujuboo1992
    @jujuboo1992 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I have a 3 year old male shih tzu yorkie named Kelso who is not neutered. Kelso weighs 19lbs. He has been socialized with dogs and people alot, but he seems to dislike large male dogs, especially if they are not neutered. He seems afraid and reacts badly, snipping, growling, alot. When on leash if he sees a large dog that barks at him, be freaks out and barks at them. Today we saw a reactive dog that was a large dog that had to be held by his owner. Kelso seemed interested and pulled toward him. Guessing it’s a boy.
    My boyfriend has an old large male boxer and we have no clue how or if we can eventually live together, because I am afraid of Kelso being hurt by his dog. I have considered putting muzzles on both of them and trying to let them smell eachother.
    Kelso’s snout is sort of short, so i am not sure if it works good for his breed.

  • @yulungjasonlee
    @yulungjasonlee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    which type of muzzle would u recommend? we are working on rehabbing a friend's dog and we wanted to see if different type of muzzles will have different effects on the dog so we avoid using ones that you don't think is a good idea.

    • @AHHHHHH107
      @AHHHHHH107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever muzzle you get make sure it's properly fitted for long periods of time. Properly fitted means the dog should be able to pant and drink water comfortably.

    • @ashb2894
      @ashb2894 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this is an 8month old comment but in case anyone else had a similar question, jafcos are a very good muzzle that is also bite proof

  • @sircmont7108
    @sircmont7108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gosh from 0 to 70 alright. How did that happen, one sec he's let's play, the next you told him to stop he snaps immediately.

  • @theallenshire268
    @theallenshire268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I almost always believe the tail no matter what the mouth is doing except with chows. They will wag their tail and bite you anyway while never stopping the tail. I don’t think they are thinking it is all ok and they do it in fun their tail just isn’t connected in the same way as other dogs to act as a lie detector.

    • @viperblackjewel3915
      @viperblackjewel3915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wagging doesn't always mean a happy dog its normally a excited or stimulated. Alot of dogs will wag their tail very fast and bite. At least in my experience with shitzus, germen shepherds, collies and Anita's. I mean tails won't wag if the dogs acting out in fear

  • @watchmoivies123
    @watchmoivies123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also prince ran away from him in the black dog was on a leash that might’ve triggered the whole thing

  • @DF-te2vm
    @DF-te2vm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the honest review. Still looking for how to change this type of behavior. May just be that's the way he is. Joel, keep trying to really understand how to get through to dogs like this...... How would you do that with a child that was not socialized to playing with other kids properly ???

  • @McNab1986
    @McNab1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come on this occasion you didn't let Prince pin him?
    Is it the size n age of the dog? Does that work better when they're still pups?

  • @fireballfitness170
    @fireballfitness170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:41 The whining... A visceral response to being excited

  • @jdo2574
    @jdo2574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My male rescue paws at the ground when we are at spots where other dogs have pee'd. Is this dominance ?

  • @Rev0cl0ud
    @Rev0cl0ud 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aplying pain to for example to his ears when he doesnt respond to corrections is a viable way? Is pain viable for any type of behavior training?

  • @JosieHandicott
    @JosieHandicott 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could he be lacking in good exercise/energy burn, and could he be in pain because he did struggle to get out of the pool at the end there. These things could be affecting his ability to calm? Also maybe his owners need to take him on halti walks, controlling/correcting his mind patterns/behaviours.

  • @flipimon
    @flipimon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, what leash do you use?

  • @paulvillano8625
    @paulvillano8625 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to train this behavior out of them ?

  • @nzchrisvaughan
    @nzchrisvaughan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you recommend a harness or is it okay to correct like that with the collar?

    • @GardeningAnimalsAndFishing
      @GardeningAnimalsAndFishing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Using a harness puts pressure on a dogs strongest part, their chest.
      Putting pressure on a dogs chest actually makes the brain go forward, when people have a dog that pulls they get a harness and the pulling gets worse because the brain is doing what it’s supposed to do.
      Also pulling back on a lead or having any tension actually escalates a dog that wants to go forward.
      So long story short, no harnesses are no good unless you want a dog to pull such as sledding or bike jouring.
      Lastly don’t attempt any of this without the direct in person guidance of a trained professional, without actually knowing what you’re doing you could be making the issues worse.

  • @fatuousinnovatorofsadness4640
    @fatuousinnovatorofsadness4640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is late, but before he started the eye-contact staring, would an indicator of his later behavior be how whenever he would be near Prince, he wouldn't even sniff him, but rather wait and do nothing while his head wasn't down, but instead postured more into an attention pose?
    One of my former dogs used to do that, when I was a kid, but only when she sort of had a "list" of things she was waiting for the other dog to do that would give her a greenlight to start a fight. She would go up to them, stop, and wait while ignoring any play attempts, until the other dog did something that made her feel like she could fight them. A sort of in-between of looking for a fight and being cool; "if this dog does X, then I fight". The ONLY indication that she was looking for "signs" to fight was a small difference - when she was comfortable, her head would be down; when she was looking for signs, her head and ears would be perked up. The snout would also be more horizontal in preparation for a bite, while most dogs have their snouts pointing downwards when comfortable. This dog seemed to be doing that.
    I may be totally off though.

  • @Mimijona
    @Mimijona 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In such a case would neutering make sense? My dog doesn't tend to like most unneutured adult males, but he was also attacked by one, as well as other unneutured off leash males have come at him. I just wonder if it makes sense since he didn't just magically start disliking other males, he was attacked once and very close to being attacked a few other times.

  • @hwri6962
    @hwri6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos have always been so helpful! Our 14 month old intact golden retriever has recently developed a fixation on one dog and constantly trys to persue that dog and hump even when both the dog and us give him corrections. He's always played great with all dogs and been well socialized but this weekend he was fixated on a neutered male a 9 year old female. When another intact male tried to correct him whilst he was fixated he went for the dog and bit his back. No puncture wounds it was more like a pin but still not acceptable. How can we nip this behaviour in the bud? He needs to stop trying to hump other dogs and listen to them when they tell him to back off. Neutered males have always gone for him in the past whilst on lead but this is the first time we've ever seen any reaction or aggression from him. Is it an adolescents age thing? Pleaseeee can we get a video to help!

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont let him hump and harass.

    • @hwri6962
      @hwri6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vikingdogmanship well obviously!! He gets put back on the leash but we'd like to do more than that and teach him to be respectful so he can go back off leash

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hwri6962 I would leave the longleash on, and let him play, but interfere with behaviours you dont want. Meaning stop them before it happens. Little by little you give more freedom, when learns to make good choices. Sorry, it's difficult to explain. English is not my main language

    • @hiddenbyfog3084
      @hiddenbyfog3084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it seems to be a teenage thing, a rush of hormones and no longer being a puppy doesn’t automatically put you at the bottom of the pack so they need to find their place again. More dominant behaviors from you and on leash muzzled exposure therapy walks with friendly unneutered males.

  • @watchmoivies123
    @watchmoivies123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He truly has some back and dishes they need to take him to the vet and have an x-ray done and possibly get on some arthritis medicine I don’t think he should be playing with dogs at this time in his life

  • @stephanygates6491
    @stephanygates6491 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @vincentender1486
    @vincentender1486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grew up with a neighbor who had black labs, and all of them pretty bad, mean, trying to get on busses to attack us kids. Even bit people but always returned, ripped a kids arm open, Gretchen was her name I believe. Can't remember the name of any pups that grew up and stayed, or well lived. Apparently there were plenty of dog skeletons under the house when they moved out.

    • @kidwolf0015
      @kidwolf0015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just about to say that seems *extremely off* for somebody to repeatedly produce extremely aggressive labs... but the last part completely makes sense.
      Labs, in general, are not inherently people aggressive. Occasionally, you'll find a poorly bred or very horrifically raised one that is... but even they don't usually "rip kids arms" and actively chase people just to hurt them...
      With that many and that horrific of behavior consistently (plus the hidden skeletons), it sounds like a horrid abusive puppy mill/backyard breeding operation with no regards towards breeding mentally healthy dogs. The behaviors you mentioned here just sound like symptoms of a genetic mental disorder.
      ...I know I wasn't there, but those dogs sound like they were ligitimately mentally sick. Have you seen any labs act like this since?

    • @blueflare3848
      @blueflare3848 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got attacked by my previous neighbor's Lab when I was a kid. People think they aren't capable of aggression, but they're able to be aggressive just like any other dog.

    • @blueflare3848
      @blueflare3848 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kidwolf0015 No dog is human aggressive by nature. Even guard dog breeds were bred to be suspicious of strangers to a reasonable amount. It should never turn into unprovoked aggression. The factors you mentioned that would cause extreme aggression in a Lab can be applied to any other breed.

  • @M.I.F..
    @M.I.F.. ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks exactly like my dog. But mine is NEVER wagging his tail. It's always serious. Labrador-Bordercollie Mix. Bäm! From zero to 80.
    I'm finished. I've tried EVERYTHING.
    And I have dog experience. With puppy and a (younger) shelter dog. With the first (female) shelter dog (1.5 years and other edge too) I've done it within 2.5 month.
    No fear anymore, no aggression.
    But with Lenny... omg.
    He's 6 years btw.
    I wish someone could teach him a "common" communication with other dogs.... 😭

  • @lil_big_mack
    @lil_big_mack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see more dogs like this if possible! My dog is good 90% of the time until something snaps and she goes kamikaze. Can’t figure out the triggers

  • @Dubbelmums
    @Dubbelmums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The dog is like a Karen. ”Do not run if you don’t ask me first. Do NOT be happy if you not ask me first. Do NOT play and be happy if you not have ask me first”.

  • @annaburns5382
    @annaburns5382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like human, it seems that some dogs can be mentally ill. I had a cat that was mentally ill. She was a pale tortie and they have a predisposition towards psychotic behavior, and she did. She was a little crazy. She was fine with me, but with my dogs or at the vet she was scary!

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That dog is not mentally ill.

    • @kidwolf0015
      @kidwolf0015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really don't think this dog is mentally ill, but you are right that vets have indeed linked certian genes with certian mental illnesses in dogs.
      I'm thinking the chow in him makes him have that chronically stern look. Chows have very similar body language and do not do well with other dogs of the same gender. This seems to be a case of a REALLY bad mixing of two very different breeds.
      He has the typical temperment of a chow with the appearance of a lab. I'm not sure if these two breeds could mix in a worse way....

  • @gtafotopdx9608
    @gtafotopdx9608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information

  • @williamhoward3537
    @williamhoward3537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also do you always flood the dogs with their triggers or is this just for the videos?

    • @BDTraining
      @BDTraining  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not always, it depends on a number of factors.

  • @liisamaarit4607
    @liisamaarit4607 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joel is my spirit human!!!

  • @akk3075
    @akk3075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please help!! So I have a very similar scenario. However my dog IS prince in this situation. He’s a 6 month old Akita. At the park there’s this one husky that comes and tries to dominate my dog. In situations like this. What do I do? My dog does play bows and everything but it came to a point where he just wasn’t having it and they tried to snap at eachother we had to break it. It’s the eye contact he makes at my dog and makes him extremely uncomfortable. I want my dog to be confident. But he’s only 6 months old so I leave the area without harming any dogs. I need some solutions. The owner of that dog does not correct at all. My dog sometimes comes and hides behind me. In situations like this do I break the eye contact ? I’m really unsure of what to do

    • @softsounds8453
      @softsounds8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to find a new dog park. If the owner isn't doing shit to fix his dog then it's only a matter of time before your dog (or someone else's) gets hurt. Your dog is getting older and he's not gonna keep putting up with this nor do you want him learning to act out because of this dog

    • @krystinascott3448
      @krystinascott3448 ปีที่แล้ว

      Start with leaving the dog park! Start with one on ones and make those interactions very positive! After that add a couple more. Dog parks are full of uneducated people and potentially danger!

  • @sherrysresearchandreviews6915
    @sherrysresearchandreviews6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very timely. I know that you say you don't feel bad for correcting bad behavior (and you shouldn't since you're trying to help) Curious, would you keep correcting even after the behavior stopped? As a preventative measure of sorts? Like just keep correcting 247 with no let up? I heard private contract companies do that as research training and development..

  • @pothszabina
    @pothszabina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First I thought he is watching Prince's neck to bite on.

  • @olive-yello
    @olive-yello 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is saying "bad boy" or "no" not good? Bc I never hear you say that

  • @SoniaSolka
    @SoniaSolka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seem to see myself in some encounters with dogs. but I was born a strange thing. my dog ​​becomes aggressive when he is on a leash and when he is free he is not. because?

    • @softsounds8453
      @softsounds8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leashes breed tension and aggression sometimes. The dog knows he's tethered so he might act out. This is why you don't want to leash your dog the whole time at a dog park. He's gonna freak out when normally he might not.

  • @ncredbird3998
    @ncredbird3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My biggest issue is my shepherd will calmly sit near and want to sniff the other them quickly goes into attack mode. No hair bristles, no tail reaction, no moon eyes, no growls .. until after the sniff is done then it's the attack. We are having our newly adopted dog neutered next week.

  • @carmensmithaguirre3049
    @carmensmithaguirre3049 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was my brother's Aussie growing up, Sunny. Would not submit or respond to corrections. We had to give him up.

  • @candypuke
    @candypuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would implement the use of some more aversive tools. Yanking on a comfy martingale ain’t gonna do anything for this dog 🤷‍♂️

  • @sweetlorraine6982
    @sweetlorraine6982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good content and tutorial

  • @liisaks1
    @liisaks1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My neutered (and big...) male dog seems to attack my other dogs (both male and female) when they show any fear or weakness.
    I'm hoping you are still looking at this web page, to provide some help.

    • @CritiquelHit
      @CritiquelHit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You need to be the boss

    • @liisaks1
      @liisaks1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CritiquelHit I am the boss - until my American Bull Terrier starts attacking.... Then he completely ignores me as he is entirely focused on the attack. Once I manage to drag him off, he is docile again.....

    • @iris7484
      @iris7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@liisaks1 that's tough - those dogs are literally bred to ignore negative physical stimulus when they're "on." I wonder if the key wouldn't be in finding an appropriate/sanctioned outlet for that energy such as tug of war, and then drawing a firm distinction between when its okay to engage and when it isn't, sort of like training fetch-obsessed border collies "that'll do." idk though

    • @liisaks1
      @liisaks1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iris7484 Thank you Iris. I often play tug of war with him (but not first thing in the morning when he's 'in the mood', but I'm not 😊)! The problem is more that every now and again he just attacks one of my other dogs. He doesn't intend to hurt them badly (I gather as he could easily kill them), but I'm terrified that one day he will.
      But thinking about this more, you're right. I'll try playing tug of war, and then giving a firm 'enough' during the game.

    • @skellie4580
      @skellie4580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liisaks1 You have two options here: Get a proper certified trainer that you can visit regularly/have in house meetings with or rehouse the aggressor.
      In my personal opinion, not all dogs are meant for pack life and that is perfectly okay. What matters is safety above all else. If you want to go the first route though, there is no other way around keeping the aggressor. A situation with a reactive dog is too dangerous to handle alone with the advice of the internet as your guide. That’s how you get yourself injured or your dogs killed, and I’m not saying that to be a jerk either. This would be a life altering decision that would mean constant consistent work with said trainer until you are confident enough in your knowledge of the dog and his behavior to de escalate the situations on your own.
      I will, however point you in the direction of a break stick for when your dog decides he/she is not going to let go. You can find them just about anywhere that sells pet products online, and with enough practice they’re life saving. If you don’t already have one, just google “break stick” and check out your options + get some information on how to properly use them and what they’re good for.
      There’s so many different outside factors that could be the case here with the aggressor that you will not find a bulletproof method to stop the attacks from TH-cam comments or trainer information online.

  • @angels_up_in_heavenxx8365
    @angels_up_in_heavenxx8365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a chow Labrador mix breed if you look it up as he looks like a black Labrador .

  • @dt-dontripking8931
    @dt-dontripking8931 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dog old Pitt rescue was the same he would be good then he would get dominant over smaller dogs .. but a young dog because a guy let his young smaller dog come in with big dogs! And his dog was just on crack compared to everyone else's dog. Didn't sniff any one and just went to play biting my dog's lip and my dog corrected him by getting on top of it. And this dog was too excited and did not calm down. Then he bit my dog's lip again then my dog bit back and locked 1 tooth. I swear I had squeeze his balls to release. And then the whole park turned on me and said my dog bit first. Smh I stopped going to parks

  • @dania1059
    @dania1059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im not a trainer, but if i know or see all black tongue or even partial black tongue, be prepared for the chow behaviors. Not great for social mixing, especially an older one already. I love watching your videos.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like a Labrador to me. They can have black tounges.

    • @dania1059
      @dania1059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vikingdogmanship yep a cross with a lab maybe. Ive never seen a full bred lab with a black tongue.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dania1059 Research suggests that there are over 30 dog breeds that may have black-tongued dogs. Some other breeds that may have black-tongued dogs are:
      Collies
      Bull Mastiff
      Labrador Retriever
      Cocker Spaniel
      Australian Cattle Dog
      Great Pyrenees
      Dalmatian
      Irish Setter
      Newfoundland
      Mountain Cur

    • @dania1059
      @dania1059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vikingdogmanship interesting! Ive boarded over 600 dogs in 7 years and have not seen this once.

    • @vikingdogmanship
      @vikingdogmanship 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dania1059 I havent either. But cant deny it excist

  • @BullsBayK9
    @BullsBayK9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the tongue being all black, it is telling me that the genetics are not that far down the line. With it looking primarily lab, I would say its probably ridgeback over a chow.

  • @mihaeladog7187
    @mihaeladog7187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My lab was like that at 4 ,I gave up and just avoided dogs for rest of his life. He died at 11 happy dog .

  • @ThisUselessHeart2
    @ThisUselessHeart2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dog looks very similar to my mutt. He's basically half lab and the other half is a mix of breeds that, indeed, does include chow chow (his tongue is spotty though not solid black.) So I would say this dog likely has chow and lab in him.

  • @ericlungu3088
    @ericlungu3088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an unstable dog, dominant very wild, he needs to be reintegrated, chow and coley mix from the looks of it.the leash created tension and always makes things worse.

  • @lindyboyle2684
    @lindyboyle2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dog is beyond excellent with all dogs big or small, male or female. EXCEPT INTACT MALES where he becomes immediately extremely aggressive! I’m so at a loss!

  • @11kwright
    @11kwright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's me again, your videos are too good. The only thing this dog looks a little too old for too many flips. However, you gotta do what you gotta do as he's active enough.

  • @raniyuna2930
    @raniyuna2930 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's possible that his owner unconssciously reinforced his behavior? That he was puppy and they introduced him every dog, then he bitten some dog or dog him and he started this because owners started punish him always by seeing others dogs? That's why he is so neurotic due to corrections?

  • @sorteinfame
    @sorteinfame 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since when is too late to correct an aggressive dog?

  • @tracialexander3213
    @tracialexander3213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 to 1:42 that was the start to all of that. He went excited to meet the Alfa male. Tale wagging. Then you allowed the Alfa in your domain to be intrusive and be rude and smell him in a not allowed way. Then he goosed his bumm. So princes dominance was shown when you allowed the visitor to be dominated on a human held leash. I get the aggressive nature you talk about. But the problem started when you didn't let or make them be friends. You let prince show it was his home from the beginning. Sorry 😔 I'm probably wrong. Seems like a great dog. Stressful situation