It’s kinda crazy how many people in the comments are complaining about having options for a carry gun. We literally live in the best times for firearms and people are STILL complaining. Sad
The 365 is a weapon system, as evidenced by the myriad changes to the platform. It offers options and is not a one-size-fits-all. I have several. One started as a 365lX , one as an X-Macro Comp and one as a Custom Works . Most are now set up as X-Macro TacOps with either 3.7" or 4.3" threaded barrels, and without the magwell. Once you own an FCU, one can quickly assemble a weapon specific to a task, from deep concealment to nearly full-sized duty. Soon, the 365 Raider chassis will be available with 6 inch barrels, which will add still more functionality.
@@uurkisme Manufacturers had actually anticipated this, and had the large porn screen hardware ready to release as soon as data plans were able to support relatively glitch free video streaming.
I don’t think this is really for IWB concealment. Y’all are missing the point. The p365 is a platform that you can change very easily. This is not for concealing inside the waistband, they have many other configurations for that. This is for a full size home defense gun or range gun, or outdoor carry gun, but not for comfortable concealed carry. The beauty of the p365 is you can use the slide assemblies from the other models and easily swap them out onto the different frames
Ya, tell me about it! I love my P320 X5 Legion, but the Compact I carry... I'm thinking of selling it for one of these, but not sure which, there's so many.... I think I want the Tacops..
If you guys think that this gun was made strictly for concealment, you’re all crazy. Listen carefully anyone in law-enforcement knows that there are people that will use this as their main duty weapon. But it’s also a gun that you could conceal if need be. It’s going to be a do all gun not just strictly concealment, and hats off to them for being innovative
Yes sir. Just bought mine on J4. Have a bit over 300 rounds through it. I would use it as a duty gun and I can conceal(especially in the cooler months) easy.
Exactly either they’re stupid or they’re just acting like they don’t know. This obviously isn’t made for comfortable inside the waistband concealment. There are already SEVERAL models and configurations for that purpose.
I don’t think this is really for IWB concealment. Y’all are missing the point. The p365 is a platform that you can change very easily. This is not for concealing inside the waistband, they have many other configurations for that. This is for a full size home defense gun or range gun, or outdoor carry gun, but not for comfortable concealed carry. The beauty of the p365 is you can use the slide assemblies from the other models and easily swap them out onto the different frames.
@@joeymedina7115 running the flush fit it’s the same as an x macro. Barrel length doesn’t matter nearly as much in CCW. You could use the fuse for everything.
What? Are you 3 foot tall, and weigh 70 lbs? It is absolutely suited for CCW. Jesus H. Christ, before skinny jeans, and men who think they are women we carried 1911s, and all steel wonder 9s to great effect.
This one would make a great carry for some. I carry a full sized P320 in appendix carry daily so to each their own and on body type…I am 5-8 and about 185.
I’ve said for years that the 365 would be able to replace the P320, at least in 9mm. You can take a P365 FCU in a full sized pistol, but you can’t make a P320 as small as a 365.
Excellent review. I'm considering this pistol and have watched lots of reviews. Yours is the first to mention the agressiveness of the grip and the recommendation to wear an undershirt when carrying concealed. The heat issue has been raised by lots of reviews as a negative...I appreciated your toss in that this negative is really just for the range, not an actual self-defense situation. Your comments from 14:25-15:36 and 17:23-18:19 pretty much helped me make my decision. Thanks!
😢@@Ricky043Congratulations. I guarantee the next 20+ years will fly by incredibly fast. I ended up soon selling the SIG ,(marketed by Browning at the time.) to help pay my tuition. Acquiring spare magazine was also difficult and expensive. I had to return the first because they sent me a 9mm mag but my pistol was a 45. I sold it to a local cop who later became our city's police chief and coincidentally the department (by mid to late 80s) transitioned from their old S&W model 66 revolvers to SIG P226 in 9mm.
It should be noted that the extended Fuse/XMacro magazine release button is not beveled anywhere near as much as on the P365 and P365XL grip modules and that makes it MUCH easier to actuate. With the P365 and P365 XL I have to relax my grip and rotate the pistol in my hand in order to actuate the magazine release button. With this extended release button I do NOT need to rotate the pistol in my hand in order to actuate the magazine release button. You can also install this extended magazine release button on the P365 and P365XL. Also note that the stippling on the rear of the Fuse/XMacro grip goes up HIGHER than it does on the P365 or P365XL. I think that this excessive stippling can inhibit gripping the pistol as high up as possible. It also irritates my hand. I plan to sand the top of the stippling down about 1/4" inch lower than it is and make it like the P365 and P365XL.
If P320 ever had issues,which I doubt,it's by now fixed,anybody can just go and watch a review made some few month back and watch a P320 thrown from a second level building some 10 times and never failed while other brands supposedly safer misfired,I see people don't have nothing better to do than just talk trash,I have P320's and never ever failed me,also have X macro and now Fuse,all good top of the line firearms.
Exactly these people cry for new shit, different stuff. Then when companies make new and different stuff they scream why are you making new and different stuff.
@grantorino2009 so there's the base version, the X and XL, the macro, and now the full size fuse. 4 maybe 5 version, 6 if you really want to get picky. A lot less than other pistols that have more versions with less differences. Theres a 365 for you no matter your hand size now. You people that over exaggerate constantly are the stupid ones. Refer to my first comment.
FYI for those buying them they are coming without the enclosed Romeo X. I bought one thinking it was enclosed on pre-order and it wasn’t, but it was still only $200 more than without it so I’m happy but just in case anyone is wondering.
@@RandomInternetProfile no duh. but if every gun sent out for a review as within an enclosed optic and every gun they’re selling is without an enclosed optic don’t you think it would be nice for people to know?
Fiber optic is a downgrade. Just wait till all the cool kids get through with the initial rush to buy, and the variants that take materials away from the firearm and charge double for it come out. Threaded barrels,night sights all the cool cuts to make it lighter. It looks like the front of the slide is already marked for the cut out.
I have an OG 10rd P365 and I want the 21 rd mag for backup!! Given the pistol's modularity, I plan to get another 10rd P365, then buy additional grips and barrel assemblies to suit whims. In the meantime, the Fuse makes me think of the Browning Hi-Power for service-pistol compactness.
I fiddled around with the Fuse at the gun store yesterday. I already have a bunch of 365 variants, so I didn’t even consider buying it. I’m gonna buy a few 21rd magazines and call it a day. Fuse is too big for how I currently carry guns, but I did like the grip module. I prefer my current 365 setups, which are macro grip modules rocking the shorter 365x slides. I have an Icarus Precision aluminum macro module and a macro comp/romeo X compact slide arriving tomorrow, so that will be the largest 365 variant I will carry.
Mine is the 365x I love the grip and the slide length is perfect I never had a firearm I was comfortable aiwb and I just carry it with a 17round mag I wanna get the 21 round cause it's a few bucks cheaper but I am affaid it gonna look stupid
Larger capacity magazines have become much more important than they used to be in order to compensate for a scenario that unfortunately is becoming much more common in which someone finds themselves up against a crew of multiple armed bad guys. In which case speed in acquiring and engaging multiple targets accurately without interruptions for a magazine change is crucial to prevail.
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There are plenty of p365 options for carry. A full size option allows small people to use a handgun in a category that isn't easy accessed by said people. Nothing WRONG with options.
I personally like that SIG is making a grown up almost full size version of their micro 9. Perfect for me. "true" double stacks are quickly becoming obsolete. I see that as progress. My hand is truly medium sized and most full size duty pistols feel a bit large for me.
7.2 inch overall length is only about a quarter inch longer than my M&P shield carry. I carry that every day and I dont have any problems. I would be willing to take the extra weight and maybe slightly more discomfort for the extra rounds.
I'm still partial to the plain P365. My wife has one and I'm planning on getting one. What I _do_ wish is that it was a little more customizable. Been eyeing the Wilcon Combat version. For something the size of the Fuse, I really like my Springfield.
I view the P320 as a firearm that might not be completely safe as a carry or duty firearm. There were problems with the weapon firing without the trigger being pulled. I see the new P365 Fuse as being a carry gun that is made for small or medium sized hands to be the “slim” choice as a duty gun
Exactly! I think a lot of people are missing that point. It’s a full size for not full size people lol aka ME! I’ve got medium-ish hands and have been wanting a full size gun. I have a Canik rival but wanted something more of a “duty” gun. I was very close to settling on the Echelon but then this came out. Gonna stop by my ffl next week to see when they can get one in the shop
@@petemitchell6788 Most pro’s do it sometimes. You just outed yourself as a novice shooter. I’ve even seen the goat Jerry miculek do it. He’s got the stones to post his mistakes. Raw is law
This feels like they put a Pic rail and threaded barrel on a Liberator. They took a small, simple, concealable backup gun and treated it like a full-size service pistol.
I have a p365 and since the ramjet came out i upgraded the grip to the xmacro and put the ramjet and upgraded my striker to the mcarbo titanium and upgraded the trigger also mcarbo flat short stroke trigger and im enjoying every bit of it was a bit expensive but i think it’s worth it .
Armorycraft makes a great grip module and the spring kit for trigger and reset. Money well spent. After buying it over a month ago, I'm still waiting on a good Tlr7 bearing holster for my fuse because the macro holster doesn't work.
Tune in next week for the fuse comp And the week after for the fuse legion comp, and the next week for the fuse specter legion comp comp comp…..I love Sig.
Excellent video & insightful commentary! Really appreciated the side-by-side comparisons, but would also have liked to see how the Fuse compares to a Glock 19 & Colt Government Model. Thanks!
its like they are trying to increase the size of it to replace the 320 eventually, maybe because of the bad press on it lately....although unwarranted in my opinion
I think I’m good with my X Macro non comp. The grip is aggressive enough on it, and this sounds even worse. Other than that I don’t really see the upgrade besides the new look. The sights are nice tho. I don’t run a dot so I’d have to get a new holster and that’s just too much work 😂
I got a lot Sigs and Glocks and honestly for me I like my Kimber R7 Mako. Stock trigger is 3.5lbs. It’s less recoil than the guns in that category like the 43x, Hellcats, and Sigs.
And two of the mags carry four more rounds. How much would it cost to convert Glock 17 mag to 21 round mag? I still agree the sig mags are overpriced, but they become comparable when you try to add a few more rounds to a stock Glock 17 mag.
Magpul makes 21 and 27 round mags for between $15 and $17 for Glock, and i’ve never had an issue. I carry OEM. I use them shooting steel at my club. If its not factory, you can trust Magpul. Glock OEM 19s and 33s are $29. So myth busted. However, i see no purpose for more than flush fit for anything but play. The only reason I carry a spare mag is in case a mag fails. Not for an extra 17 rounds, because before that 17+1 runs out, you already either won or lost.
The way SIG seems to be going with the 365s, I wouldn't be surprised to see it eventually supercede the 320 altogether. Great marketing scheme, too. After the military finishes switching completely over to the M17/M18, SIG could come along and talk 'em into trading the troublesome 320 based M17/M18s for various versions of the 365. 😋😁 Same for LE.
@@stevewhisperer6609 thought that for a year or so, especially with undercover or specialty details. The issue with the 365 is the mags aren’t all interchangeable, I imagine sig fixing this issue with the entire lineup in a few years.
They definitely aren't replacing the 43x. What they're doing is getting rid of the regular 43x, and only making the 43x with a light rail. So the only options you have between 43x with rail and 43x MOS - that's it. You guys really think Glock was about to innovate on their platform? LOL! There's a reason I fell out of love with Glocks and on to M&Ps. Hell I'll take a good solid Glock clone over an OEM gun ANY day.
@@truthseeking3818 yeah I ventured into PDPs this year and realized there are fantastic striker fired outside of Glock. If Walther makes a slimline PDP I’ll have no use for Glock.
This 365 pistol is almost like the Honda Civic that just kept getting bigger and bigger over the years until it’s competing with an accord the way this is competing with the 320.
I think its a nice addition in relation to past full size tools, like the P320...which I like, but some of them are still having ghost firing issues... The 365 line seems very solid and being thinner it should carry easier, although larger overall. Options are good, but for me, on these new offerings, like the P365 AXG Legion...no manual safety option...full pass.
To me Sig OEM triggers are some of the mushiest crap I've ever felt. The reset is super nice and crispy and then the actual trigger break is a spongey roll fest. Shield Plus 4'' Performance Center with an Overwatch Precision TAC at 2.8lbs will continue to be my EDC until something else more compelling comes along. As far as I'm concerned that hasn't happened yet. 2 extra rounds is a nice extra but not really that compelling to be honest. I'll take the ergonomics and trigger + slimmer silhouette.
Equipping a police department with Sig 365-systems would give the uniformed officers the 365 Fuse, detectives/plain clothes officers the 365X/XL with or without the comp, and undercover officers the basic 365, or mix and match for individual officers. I have a P365X with ambidextrous safeties with a Holosun EPS-Carry and a Streamlight TLR-7 SUB that I carry in a We The People OWB paddle holster. Right now I only have the 12-round magazines because the 15/17/21 round magazines are a bit pricey. I can carry this without aggravating my sciatica, and the P365X has replaced my Tisas M1911A1 US Army in 9mm and my S&W M&P9 2.0 5" FDE with ambidextrous safeties as my open carry gun while also working for concealed carry. (The sciatica makes IWB carry problematic, and I will not carry AIWB.)
It’s kinda crazy how many people in the comments are complaining about having options for a carry gun. We literally live in the best times for firearms and people are STILL complaining. Sad
What about the people complaining about the complainers?
Pearls before swine...it's as old as time.
@@virtuaguyverify 🤣🤣
Facts, if you dont like it then dont buy it maybe?😂
There are people that will always find something. The same people probably also will complain if they dont have enough options.
You know somebody's gonna put this slide on a 10 rd frame lol.
Already seen in on an XL grip module. The spring was visible.
@@cin426 that’s what I’d do
The Glock 43XXL was pretty fun (48 slide on a 43 frame)
10 rd frame?.... they hold whatever MAGAZINE you put in it
@@ABIGD0NK3Y 10rd frame meaning the original P365 frame with the short grip, designed for 10rd magazines. Those mags won’t fit in any other models.
The 365 is a weapon system, as evidenced by the myriad changes to the platform.
It offers options and is not a one-size-fits-all. I have several. One started as a 365lX , one as an X-Macro Comp and one as a Custom Works . Most are now set up as X-Macro TacOps with either 3.7" or 4.3" threaded barrels, and without the magwell. Once you own an FCU, one can quickly assemble a weapon specific to a task, from deep concealment to nearly full-sized duty. Soon, the 365 Raider chassis will be available with 6 inch barrels, which will add still more functionality.
Nope. They’re just recreating the same pistol with $50 magazines.
@@grantorino2009 😆 I mean, isn't that just about every manufacturer?
This screams 365 duty gun to me. Conceal one of the smaller models, use this one as your overt/bedside
It's sort of like cell phones. We put so much effort into making them smaller, then we keep making them bigger forgetting why we made them small.
@@Mrclean308 I'm pretty sure once they figured out you could watch porn on your phone they started getting bigger again. 🤣🤣
@@uurkisme Manufacturers had actually anticipated this, and had the large porn screen hardware ready to release as soon as data plans were able to support relatively glitch free video streaming.
lol
I don’t think this is really for IWB concealment. Y’all are missing the point. The p365 is a platform that you can change very easily. This is not for concealing inside the waistband, they have many other configurations for that. This is for a full size home defense gun or range gun, or outdoor carry gun, but not for comfortable concealed carry. The beauty of the p365 is you can use the slide assemblies from the other models and easily swap them out onto the different frames
I was thinking the same. Like the new sxg frame for the p320. Lighter guns were supposed to be the goal now we are going heavier.
I hate to think like this but I think my p320’s are becoming more obsolete with every new p365 variant coming out
Ya, tell me about it! I love my P320 X5 Legion, but the Compact I carry... I'm thinking of selling it for one of these, but not sure which, there's so many.... I think I want the Tacops..
@OldSolidSnake what's the difference?
I am mean it was smaller.but now it's literally the same gun...
@@Zephyrd08 p320’s are trash !
@dylanvanhoorne3191 it's thinner and thus easier to carry IWB.
Exactly. Honestly I love my p320 AXG, but the p365's are taking over.
I absolutely love mine. Used to have a Glock 19 and P320C in my EDC rotation, so the Fuse is easily concealable.
I’ll never complain about options.
If you guys think that this gun was made strictly for concealment, you’re all crazy. Listen carefully anyone in law-enforcement knows that there are people that will use this as their main duty weapon. But it’s also a gun that you could conceal if need be. It’s going to be a do all gun not just strictly concealment, and hats off to them for being innovative
Yes sir. Just bought mine on J4. Have a bit over 300 rounds through it. I would use it as a duty gun and I can conceal(especially in the cooler months) easy.
Exactly either they’re stupid or they’re just acting like they don’t know. This obviously isn’t made for comfortable inside the waistband concealment. There are already SEVERAL models and configurations for that purpose.
@@commonsense1825 well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Why not get a 365x and a comp and drop it into a lower isn't the whole point of sig is how you can take out the fcu and put it into a different frame
I don’t think this is really for IWB concealment. Y’all are missing the point. The p365 is a platform that you can change very easily. This is not for concealing inside the waistband, they have many other configurations for that. This is for a full size home defense gun or range gun, or outdoor carry gun, but not for comfortable concealed carry. The beauty of the p365 is you can use the slide assemblies from the other models and easily swap them out onto the different frames.
@@joeymedina7115 running the flush fit it’s the same as an x macro. Barrel length doesn’t matter nearly as much in CCW. You could use the fuse for everything.
What? Are you 3 foot tall, and weigh 70 lbs? It is absolutely suited for CCW.
Jesus H. Christ, before skinny jeans, and men who think they are women we carried 1911s, and all steel wonder 9s to great effect.
@@joeymedina7115 mine conceals easily 150lb 510
how is it not concealable when people are carrying G19s and G48s? It's the same size. Not for everyone but DEFINATELY concealable
This one would make a great carry for some. I carry a full sized P320 in appendix carry daily so to each their own and on body type…I am 5-8 and about 185.
I’ve said for years that the 365 would be able to replace the P320, at least in 9mm. You can take a P365 FCU in a full sized pistol, but you can’t make a P320 as small as a 365.
Excellent review. I'm considering this pistol and have watched lots of reviews. Yours is the first to mention the agressiveness of the grip and the recommendation to wear an undershirt when carrying concealed. The heat issue has been raised by lots of reviews as a negative...I appreciated your toss in that this negative is really just for the range, not an actual self-defense situation. Your comments from 14:25-15:36 and 17:23-18:19 pretty much helped me make my decision. Thanks!
It's almost as if Sig is building out the 365 platform to replace the (problematic) 320 platform 😐
@@eric_brooks i wonder if you can take an M17 pistol and put a p365 fire control module into it
i wonder why they didnt do that all along. Seems obvious. p365 is better in every way
They’ll never get rid of it considering all of the military guns are 320’s, but they might phase out all non M17/18 320’s.
You might be on to something.
Not as long its the US Army sidearm. Also the 320 still is more comfortable to shoot than the Fuse like some reviewer say.
I stopped at the XL oerfect size for concralment and just empught grip. Mix it with magguts for 14+1 flush and thats a great combo
This was the whole purpose of this FCU and with the 320 FCU. Being able to customize the build around the FCU.
If the grip is to aggressive for you, just take a bit of sandpaper to it to knock off the high points. :)
Anyone else hate the name "Fuse"? I was expecting something like P365 Big and Tall.
@daltonburroughs3811 P365 Husky XL Optics Ready (plates not included of course)
I was expecting something like P365 XXL Macro.
P365 fs(full size) aka FUllsiZE
P365 XLT
I feel like they basically fused the P320 and a P365, I think Fuse works.
The Fuse is the "Duty" entry into the P365 lineup. Slimmer / trimmer than a P320 but identical in capacity.
Thanks, but I'll stick with my OG 365 with flush fit ten round mag. It goes literally everywhere with me.
The first SIG I bought was a 45 caliber P220 that was marketed as the "Browning BDA" in 1980. Both couldn't be more different yet great shooters.
I was born in 1980 I'm 44 today
😢@@Ricky043Congratulations. I guarantee the next 20+ years will fly by incredibly fast. I ended up soon selling the SIG ,(marketed by Browning at the time.) to help pay my tuition. Acquiring spare magazine was also difficult and expensive. I had to return the first because they sent me a 9mm mag but my pistol was a 45. I sold it to a local cop who later became our city's police chief and coincidentally the department (by mid to late 80s) transitioned from their old S&W model 66 revolvers to SIG P226 in 9mm.
Nothings too aggressive on a grip, just graze it with sandpaper to your liking. Coewitness is best, irons for day, dot as night sight.
he needs a bigger purse
I feel that the X-Macro, and now the Fuse, open the P365 to be used in a duty roll.
I'm building a 365 that is inspired by the fuse. It's a Icarus XL plus frame, a XL slide with a threaded barrel and comp. It's going to be marvelous.😊
It should be noted that the extended Fuse/XMacro magazine release button is not beveled anywhere near as much as on the P365 and P365XL grip modules and that makes it MUCH easier to actuate. With the P365 and P365 XL I have to relax my grip and rotate the pistol in my hand in order to actuate the magazine release button. With this extended release button I do NOT need to rotate the pistol in my hand in order to actuate the magazine release button. You can also install this extended magazine release button on the P365 and P365XL.
Also note that the stippling on the rear of the Fuse/XMacro grip goes up HIGHER than it does on the P365 or P365XL. I think that this excessive stippling can inhibit gripping the pistol as high up as possible. It also irritates my hand. I plan to sand the top of the stippling down about 1/4" inch lower than it is and make it like the P365 and P365XL.
Looks like they made a direct competitor for the Echelon.
I’m guessing this is a way to have an alternative to the 320 that isn’t dangerous to the owner of it.
Replacement with these would be cheaper than recalling the 320s
My p320 is completely safe lmao
old news ....you really need to get off that train.
@@Americca_Is_Doomedright!?!! Lol
If P320 ever had issues,which I doubt,it's by now fixed,anybody can just go and watch a review made some few month back and watch a P320 thrown from a second level building some 10 times and never failed while other brands supposedly safer misfired,I see people don't have nothing better to do than just talk trash,I have P320's and never ever failed me,also have X macro and now Fuse,all good top of the line firearms.
Only stupid people would hate a corporation that is always innovating and giving customers multiple versions of a product.
Exactly these people cry for new shit, different stuff. Then when companies make new and different stuff they scream why are you making new and different stuff.
Only stupid people would call recreating the same pistol 1000 times innovative.
I rest my case.
@grantorino2009 so there's the base version, the X and XL, the macro, and now the full size fuse. 4 maybe 5 version, 6 if you really want to get picky. A lot less than other pistols that have more versions with less differences. Theres a 365 for you no matter your hand size now. You people that over exaggerate constantly are the stupid ones. Refer to my first comment.
@@grantorino2009 .
FYI for those buying them they are coming without the enclosed Romeo X. I bought one thinking it was enclosed on pre-order and it wasn’t, but it was still only $200 more than without it so I’m happy but just in case anyone is wondering.
@@mike34744 yeah no kidding I did the same thing thinking it was the enclosed one. ..... Bummer that's one reason I got the combo
That’s your own fault for not reading the description of what you’re buying
@@RandomInternetProfile no duh. but if every gun sent out for a review as within an enclosed optic and every gun they’re selling is without an enclosed optic don’t you think it would be nice for people to know?
@@RandomInternetProfile nobody’s talking about who’s fault it is. I’m informing people.
Those 365 flat faced triggers sit so far forward in the trigger guard. Looks like it could be a tight fit for gloved fingers
It is. I kept mine with the original curved trigger. Excellent observation!
Maybe if you wear welding gloves
@@noway6633or motorcycle gloves
Fiber optic is a downgrade. Just wait till all the cool kids get through with the initial rush to buy, and the variants that take materials away from the firearm and charge double for it come out. Threaded barrels,night sights all the cool cuts to make it lighter. It looks like the front of the slide is already marked for the cut out.
I would have been all over this if it had an ambi slide lock/stop (lefty). I already have the XMacro which does the job.
To me, this seems like a full/duty size gun for people with small hands.
@jayhafe I have big hands, and this was perfect. Just got one today, and i feel in love with how good it felt in my big hands.
I have an OG 10rd P365 and I want the 21 rd mag for backup!!
Given the pistol's modularity, I plan to get another 10rd P365, then buy additional grips and barrel assemblies to suit whims.
In the meantime, the Fuse makes me think of the Browning Hi-Power for service-pistol compactness.
I just use hockey tape feels so sweet and gets the job done. try it
@@ThatGuy-zt6po 👍
This is the best , you can put this slide on the legion frame and it’s the goat
I fiddled around with the Fuse at the gun store yesterday. I already have a bunch of 365 variants, so I didn’t even consider buying it. I’m gonna buy a few 21rd magazines and call it a day. Fuse is too big for how I currently carry guns, but I did like the grip module.
I prefer my current 365 setups, which are macro grip modules rocking the shorter 365x slides.
I have an Icarus Precision aluminum macro module and a macro comp/romeo X compact slide arriving tomorrow, so that will be the largest 365 variant I will carry.
Mine is the 365x I love the grip and the slide length is perfect I never had a firearm I was comfortable aiwb and I just carry it with a 17round mag I wanna get the 21 round cause it's a few bucks cheaper but I am affaid it gonna look stupid
Larger capacity magazines have become much more important than they used to be in order to compensate for a scenario that unfortunately is becoming much more common in which someone finds themselves up against a crew of multiple armed bad guys. In which case speed in acquiring and engaging multiple targets accurately without interruptions for a magazine change is crucial to prevail.
When you shoot the gun jumps around so much. Hold onto that thing a little tighter sir.
I appreciate this review, you just earned a new sub!
I hate all the stupid intro songs and crap that's just annoying!
You got right to a honest review!
Thank you!
There are plenty of p365 options for carry. A full size option allows small people to use a handgun in a category that isn't easy accessed by said people.
Nothing WRONG with options.
I personally like that SIG is making a grown up almost full size version of their micro 9. Perfect for me. "true" double stacks are quickly becoming obsolete. I see that as progress. My hand is truly medium sized and most full size duty pistols feel a bit large for me.
Funny you made a video on this, I was researching it. It's going to be my EDC and first Sig!
@@StoneFacedStoic if you already got it, what holster are you using for EDC? I’m looking at making this my future EDC. Thanks.
7.2 inch overall length is only about a quarter inch longer than my M&P shield carry. I carry that every day and I dont have any problems. I would be willing to take the extra weight and maybe slightly more discomfort for the extra rounds.
I'm still partial to the plain P365. My wife has one and I'm planning on getting one. What I _do_ wish is that it was a little more customizable. Been eyeing the Wilcon Combat version. For something the size of the Fuse, I really like my Springfield.
I view the P320 as a firearm that might not be completely safe as a carry or duty firearm. There were problems with the weapon firing without the trigger being pulled. I see the new P365 Fuse as being a carry gun that is made for small or medium sized hands to be the “slim” choice as a duty gun
Exactly! I think a lot of people are missing that point. It’s a full size for not full size people lol aka ME! I’ve got medium-ish hands and have been wanting a full size gun. I have a Canik rival but wanted something more of a “duty” gun. I was very close to settling on the Echelon but then this came out. Gonna stop by my ffl next week to see when they can get one in the shop
for people who don't know how to handle a gun maybe....i own several and never had a problem with any of them.
@@Americca_Is_Doomed I am glad you like them. I will stick with the 226’s
The 320 trigger issue was fixed years ago.
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SIMPLE: It's a thinner G17/47; that's what it is. And also the end (replacement) to the Sig320 in the civilian market.
My XL for summer carry, the fuse for winter carry
Love my fuse. It’s also the first p365 i bought. I’ve been running it since
I’ll probably pick up the next version, never buy the first. And can’t believe they put a crappy fiber optic sight on the front.
I think Sig released the fuse as striker fired competition to the Stacatto C and CS.
LOL imagine that... Sig thinking they're even in the same ball park.
This Fuse without the ports would make a great duty weapon for uniformed LE.
Thanks for doing the side by side comparison. Was hoping you would’ve done a side by side with full size guns as well, like the p320, p226, g17….etc.
0:23 I respect how raw this is. Even when he flinches anticipating recoil on a locked back slide he includes that in the video. 👍
Basic newb tactics. Respecting it is suspicious AF bro.
@@petemitchell6788 Most pro’s do it sometimes. You just outed yourself as a novice shooter. I’ve even seen the goat Jerry miculek do it. He’s got the stones to post his mistakes. Raw is law
This feels like they put a Pic rail and threaded barrel on a Liberator. They took a small, simple, concealable backup gun and treated it like a full-size service pistol.
I have a p365 and since the ramjet came out i upgraded the grip to the xmacro and put the ramjet and upgraded my striker to the mcarbo titanium and upgraded the trigger also mcarbo flat short stroke trigger and im enjoying every bit of it was a bit expensive but i think it’s worth it .
It’s to get rid of the 320 line
This seems more like a replacement for a p320 than anything.
Armorycraft makes a great grip module and the spring kit for trigger and reset. Money well spent. After buying it over a month ago, I'm still waiting on a good Tlr7 bearing holster for my fuse because the macro holster doesn't work.
Tune in next week for the fuse comp
And the week after for the fuse legion comp, and the next week for the fuse specter legion comp comp comp…..I love Sig.
Excellent video & insightful commentary! Really appreciated the side-by-side comparisons, but would also have liked to see how the Fuse compares to a Glock 19 & Colt Government Model. Thanks!
its like they are trying to increase the size of it to replace the 320 eventually, maybe because of the bad press on it lately....although unwarranted in my opinion
this gun was made for the 365 raider from flux, 21 rd mags in a mini pdw... so sweet
I think I’m good with my X Macro non comp. The grip is aggressive enough on it, and this sounds even worse. Other than that I don’t really see the upgrade besides the new look. The sights are nice tho. I don’t run a dot so I’d have to get a new holster and that’s just too much work 😂
Those serrations come straight from the Echelon, and that’s not a bad thing.
Looks more like it came straight from Staccato or Shadow Systems with the depth of a PDP.
I got a lot Sigs and Glocks and honestly for me I like my Kimber R7 Mako. Stock trigger is 3.5lbs. It’s less recoil than the guns in that category like the 43x, Hellcats, and Sigs.
So compared to my G17, its 0.2 inches thinner and mags (factory to factory), are an extra $40 each. Yeah, no.
And two of the mags carry four more rounds. How much would it cost to convert Glock 17 mag to 21 round mag? I still agree the sig mags are overpriced, but they become comparable when you try to add a few more rounds to a stock Glock 17 mag.
Magpul makes 21 and 27 round mags for between $15 and $17 for Glock, and i’ve never had an issue. I carry OEM. I use them shooting steel at my club. If its not factory, you can trust Magpul. Glock OEM 19s and 33s are $29. So myth busted.
However, i see no purpose for more than flush fit for anything but play. The only reason I carry a spare mag is in case a mag fails. Not for an extra 17 rounds, because before that 17+1 runs out, you already either won or lost.
And have like a hundred of them, because I’ve been buying them since before the Clinton magazine ban when they were $13.
@freesaints Glock has a 24 round OEM mag. As low as $25 on sale.
Forgot about that one. Think $29 regular price as well. So yeah. $50 - $70 for this privilege of buying Sig mags is out of line
The way SIG seems to be going with the 365s, I wouldn't be surprised to see it eventually supercede the 320 altogether.
Great marketing scheme, too. After the military finishes switching completely over to the M17/M18, SIG could come along and talk 'em into trading the troublesome 320 based M17/M18s for various versions of the 365. 😋😁
Same for LE.
And Who Paid for those shits.
@@stevewhisperer6609 thought that for a year or so, especially with undercover or specialty details. The issue with the 365 is the mags aren’t all interchangeable, I imagine sig fixing this issue with the entire lineup in a few years.
Looks cool and certainly nice having more options and glad Sig is doing stuff, but foe ccw, gotta stick with the P365 and P365XL/specre comp.
It’s a platform. Make it big, make it small. Make it whatever you want. Not really hard to appreciate.
I can't wait for my P365 long slide hunter in 10mm. 😀
3.1in 10mm p365
@@lililililililili8667 Not in MY hands!
I'll pass, thanks.
As an armed security guard this might make a good duty carry weapon
I felt it in my hands today felt super stiff racking the slide mag well was loose and the frame has way to much play / wobble at the rail
I have had ZERO issues with my Romeo Zero.
The extra 1/10 inch of height is because the fuse has taller sights than the Macro
I can't wait for the Legion version of the Fuse next year. 🤣
They are replacing the 43X??? Do please tell 🙏🏽 I haven’t heard anything but would love an updated 43X
@@TRR56 I was thinking the same. I know they are fazing out the regular 43x and will only have the mos model. But a whole new update would be nice.
I hope they just come out with new magazines
@@cin426 yeah they are sitting on a goldmine just making OEM 15rd mags.
They definitely aren't replacing the 43x. What they're doing is getting rid of the regular 43x, and only making the 43x with a light rail. So the only options you have between 43x with rail and 43x MOS - that's it. You guys really think Glock was about to innovate on their platform? LOL!
There's a reason I fell out of love with Glocks and on to M&Ps. Hell I'll take a good solid Glock clone over an OEM gun ANY day.
@@truthseeking3818 yeah I ventured into PDPs this year and realized there are fantastic striker fired outside of Glock. If Walther makes a slimline PDP I’ll have no use for Glock.
Nope! Love it but it really needs a version with an XL slide length 3.7” barrel and the macro style integrated slide comp on the end.
Inwant one but kinda scared ive heard a few bad reviews saying not going into batt and getting really 🔥. Whatbya think man good buy??
6 months everyone goes WILD for the fuse XL!!!!!!!!
Grip to aggressive? bruh what's your pronouns ? 😂
I would rather them redesign the P320 with a lower bore axis than just another P365 with a longer barrel.
This 365 pistol is almost like the Honda Civic that just kept getting bigger and bigger over the years until it’s competing with an accord the way this is competing with the 320.
It is a 320.just a money grab for guys who buy everything new
They just want to replace the 320 because it's 320 has lot of PR baggage and is basically rushed badly thought design
365 on the other hand
I think its a nice addition in relation to past full size tools, like the P320...which I like, but some of them are still having ghost firing issues... The 365 line seems very solid and being thinner it should carry easier, although larger overall. Options are good, but for me, on these new offerings, like the P365 AXG Legion...no manual safety option...full pass.
Saying the Romeo one sucked is an understatement... I gave mine away because it was worse than as* cancer
You said something new is coming out with the 43x. Are you referring to the mags or the pistol?
Thanls but defeats the idea of the small concealed carry gun. If you have small hands, maybe go instead of a full sized gun.
Any failure to feeds?
The only thing that could make this gun better is an ambi slide release like on the P320.
I want to see this upper on the axg frame. I love the cut.
Point of the original 365 is sub compact and concealable
To me Sig OEM triggers are some of the mushiest crap I've ever felt. The reset is super nice and crispy and then the actual trigger break is a spongey roll fest.
Shield Plus 4'' Performance Center with an Overwatch Precision TAC at 2.8lbs will continue to be my EDC until something else more compelling comes along. As far as I'm concerned that hasn't happened yet. 2 extra rounds is a nice extra but not really that compelling to be honest. I'll take the ergonomics and trigger + slimmer silhouette.
What do you mean by Glock is swapping them out? Are you talking about the magazines? Are you talking about a new model of 43X? Please explain.
I nigh consider using it for work
Thank you, very useful.
You mentioned you heard they’re replacing the G43X? Just the rail vs no rail in the standard and MOS variants or was it something else?
Hegshot, you are not getting the point, it is not necessarily a concealed carry gun, it can be used for duty too.
Sig is like Apple, making a "new" gun every couple months to cash in on the people who have to have the new new thing.
I wouldn't consider this as a concealed carry gun. I want it for competition. I have the smaller 365 for carry.
Your right the gun got hot quick
Equipping a police department with Sig 365-systems would give the uniformed officers the 365 Fuse, detectives/plain clothes officers the 365X/XL with or without the comp, and undercover officers the basic 365, or mix and match for individual officers. I have a P365X with ambidextrous safeties with a Holosun EPS-Carry and a Streamlight TLR-7 SUB that I carry in a We The People OWB paddle holster. Right now I only have the 12-round magazines because the 15/17/21 round magazines are a bit pricey. I can carry this without aggravating my sciatica, and the P365X has replaced my Tisas M1911A1 US Army in 9mm and my S&W M&P9 2.0 5" FDE with ambidextrous safeties as my open carry gun while also working for concealed carry. (The sciatica makes IWB carry problematic, and I will not carry AIWB.)