There's a k'rrik player at my lgs. Honestly after seeing that deck perform for years at this point I think it deserves the top spot. It's just got so many lines to a win. I've seen multiple turn 1 attempts , and they almost always are pushing for a win on turn 2-3. Sheoldred also was a big boon for this deck.
22:49 Clown Car's other text actually does have a (very situational) use in Magda: Because the tokens it creates are artifact creatures, Maskwood Nexus makes them usable for clock combo.
I've always taken for granted how good the layout is for the podcasts. It's really simple but does everything it needs to. I can click anywhere in the video and immediately know what is going on and using the text at the bottom as errata (e.g. the Linvala mistake at 2:26) is smooth and non-intrusive. The camera switching always feels natural. The whole thing is really pleasing to watch.
We need to rally against this. I play Malcolm (sometimes tana sometimes Kediss). If we can somehow convince the people once again that greed is in their best interest and they are actually going down cards to the table when they shoot our commanders (which is perfectly true) then maybe we can get those damnable bolts and STP’s back out of their decks. I mean we keep our removal of course because of Drannith 😉
Hey there. I'm the guy who made the Heliod, Sun-Crowned deck from the last video that Play to Win put out about mono-color decks. I noticed that Linvala, Keeper of Silence was cited as a card that Heliod can't play, but you can put that in the 99 if you want because it's asymmetrical. As for cards like Null Rod, Cursed Totem, Collector Ouphe, and Stony Silence, these obviously hurt your ability to combo off but you just build your removal suite around answering these. White has multiple cards that can hit every single one of them, and the addition of Touch the Spirit Realm gives you a card that's not only synergistic with Rule of Law, but it also hits all of these cards except for Stony Silence. I feel like that's also the least common among these cards. As for early wins like the one in your last video, that happens more than you think with cards like Mishra's Workshop, Mana Vault, and City of Traitors helping fill in the large colorless mana cost you use for the combo. Winning on T2 isn't what you'll always be trying to do, but it's definitely possible to go for T2 or T3 wins at a surprising rate if you have these cards available. I played 16 games within the last week and I won a few of them by T3 in this exact manner. Anyway, thanks for diving into topics like this one.
You guys are my favorite magic podcast, stuff like command zone feels so disconnected to me and with you guys I’m just watching some cool dudes talk about magic
As someone who plays Magda she is super fun. She can be super fast or she can grind out the board with her ability to break parity on all the stax pieces you can play.
I don’t play mono red and had a Magda kicking around while I was at my lgs, new kid got my Magda and a handful of red shit bc I do not like to play red lol
Unctus seems like a blue commander worth mentioning as it has a one card combo out of command zone. Also Slicer might be worth mentioning but we will see with time. Marwyn is a somewhat fast deck that is just a proactive mono green deck.
So, with K'rrik, The Necro Ooze line usually results in having Asmodeus, Skkirge Familiar and Razaketh in the bin. You can then ditch 3 cards to Skirge effect producing 3 black mana to pay for Asmodeus draw 7 and at some point just jam out one of the kill lines such as Grey merchant + Chainer.
Aww man selvala is soo good! Green has so many cantrips that protects its pieces with indestructible and hexproof and selvala is also a draw engine too.
Thank you for bringing attention to MonoC CEDH guys ! Loved the last game play vid, and this one ! Two things I'd like to say : 1) I think it would be worthwhile to menion that monocoloured decks tend to have non-linear combos which make them even less predictable in terms of how they can win a game, especially decks like Magda and Selvala. 2) What do you guys think of the new Nissa, Resurgent Animist as a potential CEDH commander ?
Having just built Magda as a high power deck I can certainly see the incredible potential it has in cEDH. I'm mostly just going the win with big dumb dragons route but it was interesting to see Cam had won a game with Utvara as well.
It's been so long since I watched all their stuff, so I wouldnt have even noticed if I didn't see this haha. Holy hand grenade right? I played the killer rabbit when I was a kid in a 4H play.
32:00 I currently run Urza as my cEDH deck and I run a few win-cons in it. 1. Make infinite mana through some means (there’s a bunch of ways), then play Walking Ballista. 2. Hullbreaker Horror while playing out the deck to bounce everyone’s stuff, with Displacer Kitten to keep flickering Urza for more constructs. I run an extra turn spell in there, so it’s pass to next turn, attack for win. If neither of those play out, I also have The Millennium Calendar as a backup, which actually got me a win in a recent game. The deck runs a bunch of untap effects (Voltaic Key, Manifold Key, Unwinding Clock, etc) mostly for use with The One Ring for crazy amounts of draw, but it also can combo off surprisingly fast with The Millennium Calendar. At 25 counters on it, you’re only 6 activations away from >1,000. With Rings of Brighthearth, you can double activate TMC to 100 counters. You can then double an untap effect (like Voltaic Key), and in between untaps, double activate TMC again (to 400), then double double again to 1,600. The list I have runs a lot of counterspells and stax, to slow everyone else down a lot and make stopping my wins harder.
I put a lot of time into Orvar and it's definitely a strange beast to deal with both as a pilot and an opponent. Naturally the prevailing thought of "just kill the commander" holds true, but when you see some of the cards the deck is playing and recognize that their main goal is to make a lot of island tokens, it's very easy to leave them alone in favor of scarier targets, especially when you know they're on a big control plan and can be really useful for handling the rest of the table. Then at some point you realize you're in way too deep and they keep responding to your spells and just going over it and all the counterspells in the world don't actually stop the Orvar triggers, and now it doesn't matter if you kill Orvar they have 20 islands and 5 sol rings (I've had more) It's a very hard deck to play, but even worse, one of the main reasons you will see it less and less as time goes on: the good version of the deck (the control version, not the awkward twiddle storm) just can't function under timed rounds. Games DRAG on, even when you're in the driver's seat and almost certainly going to win, you aren't doing it in a timely manner unless somebody really messes up and you get to imposter mech a dockside and now you have infinite mechsides, but EVEN THEN, it's probably not happening before turn 4. It's a real shame because I love the deck, but with tournament aspirations you can't play a deck that probably goes 1-0-3 when it's firing on all cylinders.
Started laughing 40 seconds in and never stopped. As always, consistently the best cEDH content out there and the episodes with Tyler as even better than regular. Please never change.
Interesting to hear y'alls thoughts on Slicer? He was making some big waves as a mono red commander. I'm not actually sure if its better than Magda but still, interesting thought.
I have played slicer and won games with a subpar list (no blood Moon, etc) people kept killing it, but I just kept bringing it back. Also works great as an arch-enemy killer.
Slicer is a unique take on aggro that lets someone play something that attacks on every players turn instead of only on their turn. So in concept it's very powerful. But no, it does not have the same problem Godo has. Technically, you could build the deck with 50 lands and it would work. Just be careful on what you put on Slicer because anything that doesn't say "YOU" gives that benefit to the player who controls Slicer.
I VERY CLEARLY remember the Magda arch-enemy situation in Minneapolis as I was standing next you Cam, and cannot forget your grin when we saw the God Pharaoh Statue off the top 4 :D It was a pleasure playing a game with you all with my Blue Farm :)
I love my Magda deck. It's by far my most successful deck by far. I prefer the other lines tho like maskwood into reckless fireweaver. Tergrid is finally winning too. Turn 2 tergrid with desolation and turn 3 contamination with black market connections was GGs.
I’m just happy to hear my main boi Urza get some love It was specially fun to see Tyler’s eyes light up when the similarities with Kinnan were pointed out
As an Urza, lord high pilot of 5 years, isochron scepter/dramatic reversal and aetherflux reservoir is my favorite win con, and you don't need to cast your commander unless someone plays an oufe or null rod!
Lol, loved Tyler in this one. Also, I'm looking to force a new mono green commander into fringe-to-cEDH territory that has seen some other shell attempts, but I'm hoping my build can blindside a tournament or two. It's a ton of fun, so I look forward to surprising some people.
With Magda I like to use pyrite spellbomb over the sniper with the elixir of immortality it has a 1 cmc and R to shock an opponent or you can pay colorless to draw a card
Love seeing some Tyler! I hope that one day, Light-Paws will be considered for a list like this. Have you considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?
Lovely video as always! Just gonna throw out the new Braids there for the mono-black list, it doesn't really beat out my beloved K'rrik but still a really solid deck!
Silverskin Armor is another way you can make Magda (or any other dwarf) become an artifact. The problem i have with Magda is if Clock of Omens gets preators Grasped or Extracted or however removed from your deck through some none sense exile thing (effects like Pako literally attacking) then your ability to combo win is gone. K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth is phyrexian so it's pronounced something like "Urrk." Take Sidisi, Undead Vizier out of your command zone. replace it with Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire, and run ALL the lands that you can cycle, all the 1 CMC spells that either has Cycle or draws you a card. You have a better more consistent deck. Braids, Arisen Nightmare and Sheoldred are still new, but should be considered. if you think Sheoldred, the Apocalypse is powerful, wait till you see Starscream, Power Hungry. There's a reason why Krenko, Mob Boss, and Torbran, Thane of Red Fell are of the most popular options in mono red. Valduk, Keeper of the Flame in my opinion should be part of the top 5. having Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in the command zone is actually a competitive deck build, and it works because of the number of creatures that combo with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. but people normally use Rionya, Fire Dancer instead. Slicer, Hired Muscle in my opinion is competitive, and what seperates him apart from other voltron strategies is because of how he works and he prevents himself from being sacrificed. And as commander he only needs to do 21 commander damage but this also applies to the owner of the card. Ghalta, Primal Hunger is "competitive" for stupid reasons. Titania, Protector of Argoth used to be a powerful food chain competitive deck, she was a $50 card for a reason.
i forgot to look at the blue stuff, so here's an addendum. Emry, Lurker of the Loch should had been considered in my opinion, as she is basically "Not Urza" but equally competitive. Unctus, Grand Metatect is still "new" but the way he works is very interesting. Literally a commander that can let you filter your hand infinitely until you win with Thassa's Oracle. Kaho, Minamo Historian is a very gimmicky deck that "can" be in competitive, but it's fragile and very "one note" it either wins or it has no way to win.
Have to pour one out for no mention of Baral for mono-blue. The deck doesn't see a ton of play, but it should. It slaps. Yall Have Hullbreaker and Iso/Dram both on your top 10 combos in cEDH and Baral does both of those extremely well. It also plays all the best blue spells. Good deck.
Arcum Daggson is one of my favorite decks. Portal was one of the best adds for the deck, however really folds hard to a lot of the same things that Magda get folded to, and less tools to deal with those pieces as so much of the deck is built to get Daggon going asap.
Ya guys should do a podcast episode of taking all the ranked lists ya did for decks in the different colors and make an overall ranked list of those tops ones.
The benefit of running a 1 colour deck is a cheaper mana base... so so much cheaper, but people would still run all the fetches they could to thin out the deck even if they don't need to. K'riik combo: Swamp, Jewelled lotus + 6 life, cast K'riik, 2 life: cast blood celebrant. pay 9 life, though blood celebrant adding 3 black mana, cast final parting, fetch Gary and Chainer, pay life again through blood celebrant to cast dark petition, pay 2 life casting cabal ritual with threshold, adding 5 black, cast animate dead, target Gary, draining everyone for 7, gaining 21, pay 2 life cast demonic tutor, add 3 black through blood celebrant, pay 4 more life to cast Sedisi, undead Vizier exploiting Gary to fetch Dance of the dead, pay more life to cast Dance of the dead, reanimating Gary again draining everyone for 9, gaining 27 life. pay 6 life through blood celebrant, pay 4 more life and cast Fleshwrither, pay more life to cast Yawmoths will, pay life to cast demonic tutor from graveyard fetching saw in half, pay life to cast saw in half targeting Gary draining the table for 24 and you gain 48 life and you win the game.
Can u guys do a food chain video, talking about the combos, the commanders, and how food chain decks measures up against the top decks in the current meta. (And why first sliver isn't a good deck anymore)
Shoulda held your ground, Dylan. You were 100% correct. K'rrik was originally the phyrexian sleeper agent Kerrick. That's your first hint that his name is not "crick". The second is what you intuited, the apostrophe means something. It's like a verbal reset. Instead of "crick" or "kar-ick", it's "KEH-[slightly emphasized pause]-rick"
I know he's not cEDH but i'm wondering what your thoughts are on a Kokusho deck revolving around saccing/reanimating him and flickering him with spells like Feign Death? I have been playing it quite a bit and i really like how hard you can go into using your life as a resource and a lot of cards i have seen you guys play seem to fit well into it.
Clown car is also really good in urza ; and you can pay into it and it’s better too cause the 1/1 s are artifacts that can be taped for mana and buff the construct
One mono-black commander that I’ve never heard mentioned but ik could really do something is Trazyn the Infinite from 40k. He’s necrotic ooze but for artifacts and there just has to be free wins with him.
I base K'rrik off of Hawai'i. There's two syllables in K'rrik. The apostraphe produces the "sound" of a gutteral stop. It would be nice if Wizards put up pronunciation guides for M;tG lore but I'm afraid they'd mess it up.
It used to be simple: read it in American English. If you can sound things out like an elementary student would, you will get it most of the time. Then they had that stupid thing with CHOO-lain and now there's no standard anymore.
Really fun seeing Ao be mentioned. I wish it wasn't such a fragile list. There's not many commanders that get value from veing removed. It's also a pseudo tutor in the command zone in some ways.
I’ve started playing Magda just a couple of weeks before but still I feel shocked when this deck for 137$ sometimes wins in t3 :D Also all the jokes about clown car are just incredibly funny for me. Especially the situation from shorts when Cameron read her text😂😂 And K’rrik is spelled “Kerrik” as far as know. At least that was his name at the beginning of the “Time Streams” J. Robert King.
Using its Phyrexian-language printing in conjunction with the mtg wiki article on the Phyrexian language as gospel for now, at least until Yawgmoth comes to compleat me himself, K'rrik should be pronounced with just one syllable, but the vowel isn't where you think it is. The best IPA I can offer for it is kx'ərk, closest to Kirk, but the first K is "clanked" and the second is not.
I mean urza can shutdown players with stax pieces he can go fast in assembling his combo, but his main gameplan is to outstaxx everyone with stuff like winter orb static orb and all that jazz. Urza also has the most wins as of recently in monocolor. Magda had a short uptick due to not many know how she plays but recently hasnt been getting as many as urza. Krrik is very cool and has been consistent with his representation, but urza has had the most wins and also being a stax beast. Wincons being a potential cast whole deck then thassas(not common or very cool) codex shredder with hullbreaker, time twister loops and with tormods crypt to keep opponents from reshuffling grave, narset wheel wheel as a pseudo wincon, and infinite mana into a walking balista. Most urza decks arent on polymorph or proteus staff because of how good the creatures can be like chip, displacer kitten, farie mastermind and whatnot
Not sure if Dylan will see this but I have a quick question about your Edgar markov deck. If you run Idol of Oblivion. Is it worth it to run Satff of the Storyteller?
On the subject of 5-mana artifacts from the mono-white discussion, I wonder if the new Karn makes it. He gives you at least 5 extra mana every turn, which can be huge.
What do you guys think about Ayara, First of Locthwain as a mono black commander in cEDH? I'm currently in the middle of building one, and from my experience it's absolutely not nearly as powerful as K'rrik, but certainly quite resilient and consistent with a combo piece and card draw in the command zone. Does have a single 2 card combo as well with Ayara + Plague of Vermin, which can be easily searched for and played with the Broodlord combo line, for example.
I wonder if anyone’s trying clown car in Urza? Seems decent Floor is mox but it could actually make a ton of artifacts that buff Kanstructs and tap for mana. I HATE THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT PROPOSTEROUS SET🤷♂️ but we kinda do
For Casual EDH Magda would be good choice. It was fun a refreshing for a while. Talking CEDH K'rrik is definitively Number 1 Mono Color Commander, faster and much more fun with a wide variaty of options other than only G.M.A Stax is not reliable in CEDH. You cannot tutor contantly cards like Blood Moon and even if you did then somebody could easily play Dockside with their non basic Mountains, generate all colors and win in the spot. While K'rrik has tutors and hyper fast mana. The only thing it lacks is protection because there aren't many good discard options to take care of all 3 opponents then you rather go fast all in
I do love my tergrid deck but playing stuff like thoughtseize for cedh would be rough, you will often target the wrong person. I play it high power when people want a stax-y challenge like Cam said.
Really interesting video i just disagree on yisan, something that make in my opinion yisan better than selvala is the fact that selvala is an explosive deck meanwhile yisan is a stax deck. And if i have to choice what bring i will prefer bring stax than an explosive devk in a tournaement. Most important yisan can have some silver bullet against nearly every deck that not to many people know. Like take out a selvala's enforcerer in response of thoracle trigger.
I'm surprised to see Tyler on the podcast in a situation where he can't just sing the praises of Kinnan for an hour lol I like the addition though, and I'm glad to see him
K'rrik player here. Yall both right on pronunciation per the lore at least. His "real" name was Kerrick before he was exiled.... returned as phyrexian "K'rrik.
Ive built a mono color commander for the whole color pie and its funny to know i got 2 of the 5 being cedh. K'rrik and selvala were my correct picks. I know he sucks but etali primal storm with multiple combats and helm of the host is some of the funniest shit you can do in my opinion
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I'll play Orvar on the channel if you want
Yes!!!!
Oh god yes pls, I fucking love squidboi
Lol
Yes please
Let him cooooook!!!
Love seeing Tyler on the podcast now!
same
Also same.
my cEDH daddy dream throuple!
There's a k'rrik player at my lgs. Honestly after seeing that deck perform for years at this point I think it deserves the top spot. It's just got so many lines to a win. I've seen multiple turn 1 attempts , and they almost always are pushing for a win on turn 2-3. Sheoldred also was a big boon for this deck.
A good k'rikk player is insane to deal with. The only thing k'rikk struggles with is enchantment/artifact based stax effects.
@@sgtflamingo6532yeah you literally have to play feed the swarm as bad as it is just bc you have no other outs to leyline of the void or RIP
22:49 Clown Car's other text actually does have a (very situational) use in Magda: Because the tokens it creates are artifact creatures, Maskwood Nexus makes them usable for clock combo.
I've always taken for granted how good the layout is for the podcasts. It's really simple but does everything it needs to. I can click anywhere in the video and immediately know what is going on and using the text at the bottom as errata (e.g. the Linvala mistake at 2:26) is smooth and non-intrusive. The camera switching always feels natural. The whole thing is really pleasing to watch.
Ditto this
As a Selvala player, the amount of removal spells I’ve eaten so someone else wins is outstanding.
As a fellow Selvala player, I feel your pain.
Us Marwyn players feel your pain as well 😢
I mean this in no kind way - good. Fuck green.
We need to rally against this. I play Malcolm (sometimes tana sometimes Kediss). If we can somehow convince the people once again that greed is in their best interest and they are actually going down cards to the table when they shoot our commanders (which is perfectly true) then maybe we can get those damnable bolts and STP’s back out of their decks. I mean we keep our removal of course because of Drannith 😉
@@NewSchoolPOKERstrat Ram Through and Tail Swipe aren't real magic cards, they can't hurt you lol
Hey there. I'm the guy who made the Heliod, Sun-Crowned deck from the last video that Play to Win put out about mono-color decks.
I noticed that Linvala, Keeper of Silence was cited as a card that Heliod can't play, but you can put that in the 99 if you want because it's asymmetrical. As for cards like Null Rod, Cursed Totem, Collector Ouphe, and Stony Silence, these obviously hurt your ability to combo off but you just build your removal suite around answering these. White has multiple cards that can hit every single one of them, and the addition of Touch the Spirit Realm gives you a card that's not only synergistic with Rule of Law, but it also hits all of these cards except for Stony Silence. I feel like that's also the least common among these cards.
As for early wins like the one in your last video, that happens more than you think with cards like Mishra's Workshop, Mana Vault, and City of Traitors helping fill in the large colorless mana cost you use for the combo. Winning on T2 isn't what you'll always be trying to do, but it's definitely possible to go for T2 or T3 wins at a surprising rate if you have these cards available. I played 16 games within the last week and I won a few of them by T3 in this exact manner.
Anyway, thanks for diving into topics like this one.
I love how the magda line feels like the Gitrog monster, but better in just one color.
You guys are my favorite magic podcast, stuff like command zone feels so disconnected to me and with you guys I’m just watching some cool dudes talk about magic
Everytime y'all do one of these, I just want to buy more cards and build more decks... Magda sounds super fun.
As someone who plays Magda she is super fun. She can be super fast or she can grind out the board with her ability to break parity on all the stax pieces you can play.
I don’t play mono red and had a Magda kicking around while I was at my lgs, new kid got my Magda and a handful of red shit bc I do not like to play red lol
Awesome episode through and through. Love having Tyler to add a perspective and you three have great chemistry. Thanks for the episode!!!
Unctus seems like a blue commander worth mentioning as it has a one card combo out of command zone. Also Slicer might be worth mentioning but we will see with time. Marwyn is a somewhat fast deck that is just a proactive mono green deck.
So, with K'rrik, The Necro Ooze line usually results in having Asmodeus, Skkirge Familiar and Razaketh in the bin. You can then ditch 3 cards to Skirge effect producing 3 black mana to pay for Asmodeus draw 7 and at some point just jam out one of the kill lines such as Grey merchant + Chainer.
Dylan : here we know the Bible on PTW,
Previous episode: I should get hellbent tattooed on m fingers for the camera lmao
Aww man selvala is soo good! Green has so many cantrips that protects its pieces with indestructible and hexproof and selvala is also a draw engine too.
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Thank you for bringing attention to MonoC CEDH guys ! Loved the last game play vid, and this one !
Two things I'd like to say :
1) I think it would be worthwhile to menion that monocoloured decks tend to have non-linear combos which make them even less predictable in terms of how they can win a game, especially decks like Magda and Selvala.
2) What do you guys think of the new Nissa, Resurgent Animist as a potential CEDH commander ?
Having just built Magda as a high power deck I can certainly see the incredible potential it has in cEDH. I'm mostly just going the win with big dumb dragons route but it was interesting to see Cam had won a game with Utvara as well.
Urza’s drop in popularity sure was a…dramatic reversal
The Monty Python right off the rip was class
Agreed
Glad someone caught that :)
It's been so long since I watched all their stuff, so I wouldnt have even noticed if I didn't see this haha. Holy hand grenade right? I played the killer rabbit when I was a kid in a 4H play.
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I currently run Urza as my cEDH deck and I run a few win-cons in it.
1. Make infinite mana through some means (there’s a bunch of ways), then play Walking Ballista.
2. Hullbreaker Horror while playing out the deck to bounce everyone’s stuff, with Displacer Kitten to keep flickering Urza for more constructs. I run an extra turn spell in there, so it’s pass to next turn, attack for win.
If neither of those play out, I also have The Millennium Calendar as a backup, which actually got me a win in a recent game. The deck runs a bunch of untap effects (Voltaic Key, Manifold Key, Unwinding Clock, etc) mostly for use with The One Ring for crazy amounts of draw, but it also can combo off surprisingly fast with The Millennium Calendar. At 25 counters on it, you’re only 6 activations away from >1,000. With Rings of Brighthearth, you can double activate TMC to 100 counters. You can then double an untap effect (like Voltaic Key), and in between untaps, double activate TMC again (to 400), then double double again to 1,600.
The list I have runs a lot of counterspells and stax, to slow everyone else down a lot and make stopping my wins harder.
I put a lot of time into Orvar and it's definitely a strange beast to deal with both as a pilot and an opponent. Naturally the prevailing thought of "just kill the commander" holds true, but when you see some of the cards the deck is playing and recognize that their main goal is to make a lot of island tokens, it's very easy to leave them alone in favor of scarier targets, especially when you know they're on a big control plan and can be really useful for handling the rest of the table. Then at some point you realize you're in way too deep and they keep responding to your spells and just going over it and all the counterspells in the world don't actually stop the Orvar triggers, and now it doesn't matter if you kill Orvar they have 20 islands and 5 sol rings (I've had more)
It's a very hard deck to play, but even worse, one of the main reasons you will see it less and less as time goes on: the good version of the deck (the control version, not the awkward twiddle storm) just can't function under timed rounds. Games DRAG on, even when you're in the driver's seat and almost certainly going to win, you aren't doing it in a timely manner unless somebody really messes up and you get to imposter mech a dockside and now you have infinite mechsides, but EVEN THEN, it's probably not happening before turn 4. It's a real shame because I love the deck, but with tournament aspirations you can't play a deck that probably goes 1-0-3 when it's firing on all cylinders.
Love the look into the camera aside from dylan. Would love to see more of that!
Started laughing 40 seconds in and never stopped. As always, consistently the best cEDH content out there and the episodes with Tyler as even better than regular. Please never change.
Interesting to hear y'alls thoughts on Slicer? He was making some big waves as a mono red commander. I'm not actually sure if its better than Magda but still, interesting thought.
The deck lives and dies on greedy deck building. It should be a flash in the pan but people are so greedy.
Slicer has the same issue as Godo, kill slicer and it's basically over.
I have played slicer and won games with a subpar list (no blood Moon, etc) people kept killing it, but I just kept bringing it back. Also works great as an arch-enemy killer.
Using beamstick bully and a few other treasure generating artifacts you can have that mana to interact and recast sliver very easily
Slicer is a unique take on aggro that lets someone play something that attacks on every players turn instead of only on their turn. So in concept it's very powerful. But no, it does not have the same problem Godo has. Technically, you could build the deck with 50 lands and it would work. Just be careful on what you put on Slicer because anything that doesn't say "YOU" gives that benefit to the player who controls Slicer.
I’m all for the Mox Sapphire Ferris Bueller bit becoming a thing 😂
On K'rrik, K'rrik used to be named Kerrik. Which is to say, I lean towards Dylan's pronunciation.
I VERY CLEARLY remember the Magda arch-enemy situation in Minneapolis as I was standing next you Cam, and cannot forget your grin when we saw the God Pharaoh Statue off the top 4 :D It was a pleasure playing a game with you all with my Blue Farm :)
A. Love the show
B. Run a game where y'all play the top 4
C. Tyler should be on the pod full time, he brings a good balance to the conversation
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I love my Magda deck. It's by far my most successful deck by far. I prefer the other lines tho like maskwood into reckless fireweaver. Tergrid is finally winning too. Turn 2 tergrid with desolation and turn 3 contamination with black market connections was GGs.
Should have mentioned Slicer and the new urabrask for mono red. I feel urabrask is the new commander for any Birgi deck as it is birgi but better.
I like the new Urabrask, but he is much worse than Birgi. The higher cmc and not triggering off artifacts or creatures is really bad.
I’m just happy to hear my main boi Urza get some love
It was specially fun to see Tyler’s eyes light up when the similarities with Kinnan were pointed out
I play a mono-black Yawgmoth deck and it RULES. Y'all should play it again sometime soon!
The momwnt Cam said to rank the top 5, I knew Selvala would be last. I saw it coming and im still hurt.
I think the K'rrik is the sound of a neck breaking. Somebody told me that a while back!
As an Urza, lord high pilot of 5 years, isochron scepter/dramatic reversal and aetherflux reservoir is my favorite win con, and you don't need to cast your commander unless someone plays an oufe or null rod!
12:05 As the last remaining Orvar player, this clip loops in my head on the daily.
Lol, loved Tyler in this one. Also, I'm looking to force a new mono green commander into fringe-to-cEDH territory that has seen some other shell attempts, but I'm hoping my build can blindside a tournament or two. It's a ton of fun, so I look forward to surprising some people.
With Magda I like to use pyrite spellbomb over the sniper with the elixir of immortality it has a 1 cmc and R to shock an opponent or you can pay colorless to draw a card
Love seeing some Tyler! I hope that one day, Light-Paws will be considered for a list like this. Have you considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?
Wouldn’t it literally just be “Sythis, ok video over” 😅. Like…legitimately, I’m not joking.
Lovely video as always! Just gonna throw out the new Braids there for the mono-black list, it doesn't really beat out my beloved K'rrik but still a really solid deck!
Linvala is actually completely fine in heliod, same for karn(the Stax one)
They caught it in the edit. Rewatch them talk about it and they put “Linvala don’t give a fuck” under the card
Silverskin Armor is another way you can make Magda (or any other dwarf) become an artifact. The problem i have with Magda is if Clock of Omens gets preators Grasped or Extracted or however removed from your deck through some none sense exile thing (effects like Pako literally attacking) then your ability to combo win is gone.
K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth is phyrexian so it's pronounced something like "Urrk."
Take Sidisi, Undead Vizier out of your command zone. replace it with Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire, and run ALL the lands that you can cycle, all the 1 CMC spells that either has Cycle or draws you a card. You have a better more consistent deck.
Braids, Arisen Nightmare and Sheoldred are still new, but should be considered.
if you think Sheoldred, the Apocalypse is powerful, wait till you see Starscream, Power Hungry.
There's a reason why Krenko, Mob Boss, and Torbran, Thane of Red Fell are of the most popular options in mono red.
Valduk, Keeper of the Flame in my opinion should be part of the top 5.
having Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in the command zone is actually a competitive deck build, and it works because of the number of creatures that combo with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. but people normally use Rionya, Fire Dancer instead.
Slicer, Hired Muscle in my opinion is competitive, and what seperates him apart from other voltron strategies is because of how he works and he prevents himself from being sacrificed. And as commander he only needs to do 21 commander damage but this also applies to the owner of the card.
Ghalta, Primal Hunger is "competitive" for stupid reasons.
Titania, Protector of Argoth used to be a powerful food chain competitive deck, she was a $50 card for a reason.
i forgot to look at the blue stuff, so here's an addendum.
Emry, Lurker of the Loch should had been considered in my opinion, as she is basically "Not Urza" but equally competitive.
Unctus, Grand Metatect is still "new" but the way he works is very interesting. Literally a commander that can let you filter your hand infinitely until you win with Thassa's Oracle.
Kaho, Minamo Historian is a very gimmicky deck that "can" be in competitive, but it's fragile and very "one note" it either wins or it has no way to win.
Love my Giada, Font of Hope deck. Sometimes she is a sleeper, sometimes she’s asleep
For mono white i was thinking Light Paws was pretty good surprised it wasnt mentioned
Have to pour one out for no mention of Baral for mono-blue. The deck doesn't see a ton of play, but it should. It slaps. Yall Have Hullbreaker and Iso/Dram both on your top 10 combos in cEDH and Baral does both of those extremely well. It also plays all the best blue spells. Good deck.
I loved the turn to the camera, almost exposed me for watching TH-cam at work 😂
Arcum Daggson is one of my favorite decks. Portal was one of the best adds for the deck, however really folds hard to a lot of the same things that Magda get folded to, and less tools to deal with those pieces as so much of the deck is built to get Daggon going asap.
I love the part where Dylan breaks the fourth wall as a bit haha
Ya guys should do a podcast episode of taking all the ranked lists ya did for decks in the different colors and make an overall ranked list of those tops ones.
The benefit of running a 1 colour deck is a cheaper mana base... so so much cheaper, but people would still run all the fetches they could to thin out the deck even if they don't need to.
K'riik combo: Swamp, Jewelled lotus + 6 life, cast K'riik, 2 life: cast blood celebrant. pay 9 life, though blood celebrant adding 3 black mana, cast final parting, fetch Gary and Chainer, pay life again through blood celebrant to cast dark petition, pay 2 life casting cabal ritual with threshold, adding 5 black, cast animate dead, target Gary, draining everyone for 7, gaining 21, pay 2 life cast demonic tutor, add 3 black through blood celebrant, pay 4 more life to cast Sedisi, undead Vizier exploiting Gary to fetch Dance of the dead, pay more life to cast Dance of the dead, reanimating Gary again draining everyone for 9, gaining 27 life. pay 6 life through blood celebrant, pay 4 more life and cast Fleshwrither, pay more life to cast Yawmoths will, pay life to cast demonic tutor from graveyard fetching saw in half, pay life to cast saw in half targeting Gary draining the table for 24 and you gain 48 life and you win the game.
Can u guys do a food chain video, talking about the combos, the commanders, and how food chain decks measures up against the top decks in the current meta. (And why first sliver isn't a good deck anymore)
11:25 Welcome to the new Pray to Win Podcast!
Great watch! Surprised that slicer didn’t show up for mono red but otherwise good work.
Shoulda held your ground, Dylan. You were 100% correct. K'rrik was originally the phyrexian sleeper agent Kerrick. That's your first hint that his name is not "crick". The second is what you intuited, the apostrophe means something. It's like a verbal reset. Instead of "crick" or "kar-ick", it's "KEH-[slightly emphasized pause]-rick"
I like that Tyler immediately understood the fish/bible joke, you could see the disapproval, and Cameron STILL had to explain it to him
Light-Paws is my absolutly favorite mono w deck. So much fun with all the old flash auras, like it a lot on a power level of 8,5/10
Always nice to know that some of my favorite TH-camrs would think I was dumb for believing in something.
Although in fairness it's mostly the third guy who's not usually on the podcast who was really making it obvious he's an insufferable prick
Very much appreciated the attempt at the Feeding of the Five Thousand reference Cam lol
I love my Ashaya deck. Plays some really funny stuff due to untapping land creatures being your combo.
HAHAHAH "HAVE YOU SEEN JEOPARDYYYY" I am dying 😂😂
I know he's not cEDH but i'm wondering what your thoughts are on a Kokusho deck revolving around saccing/reanimating him and flickering him with spells like Feign Death? I have been playing it quite a bit and i really like how hard you can go into using your life as a resource and a lot of cards i have seen you guys play seem to fit well into it.
Clown car is also really good in urza ; and you can pay into it and it’s better too cause the 1/1 s are artifacts that can be taped for mana and buff the construct
Surprised slicer wasn't mentioned
One mono-black commander that I’ve never heard mentioned but ik could really do something is Trazyn the Infinite from 40k. He’s necrotic ooze but for artifacts and there just has to be free wins with him.
Ijs… Yeva is one of the only Mono Green commanders to win a tourney! It’s is the amalgamation of all Mono Green decks into one.
I base K'rrik off of Hawai'i. There's two syllables in K'rrik. The apostraphe produces the "sound" of a gutteral stop.
It would be nice if Wizards put up pronunciation guides for M;tG lore but I'm afraid they'd mess it up.
It used to be simple: read it in American English. If you can sound things out like an elementary student would, you will get it most of the time. Then they had that stupid thing with CHOO-lain and now there's no standard anymore.
Really fun seeing Ao be mentioned. I wish it wasn't such a fragile list. There's not many commanders that get value from veing removed. It's also a pseudo tutor in the command zone in some ways.
"Spin the Jeopardy Wheel" is my new favorite saying 🤣
Just discovered this channel you guys rock!
I think we need to have a poll to see who has the better stache.
Cam, 100%
I’ve started playing Magda just a couple of weeks before but still I feel shocked when this deck for 137$ sometimes wins in t3 :D
Also all the jokes about clown car are just incredibly funny for me. Especially the situation from shorts when Cameron read her text😂😂
And K’rrik is spelled “Kerrik” as far as know. At least that was his name at the beginning of the “Time Streams” J. Robert King.
Using its Phyrexian-language printing in conjunction with the mtg wiki article on the Phyrexian language as gospel for now, at least until Yawgmoth comes to compleat me himself, K'rrik should be pronounced with just one syllable, but the vowel isn't where you think it is. The best IPA I can offer for it is kx'ərk, closest to Kirk, but the first K is "clanked" and the second is not.
I mean urza can shutdown players with stax pieces he can go fast in assembling his combo, but his main gameplan is to outstaxx everyone with stuff like winter orb static orb and all that jazz. Urza also has the most wins as of recently in monocolor. Magda had a short uptick due to not many know how she plays but recently hasnt been getting as many as urza. Krrik is very cool and has been consistent with his representation, but urza has had the most wins and also being a stax beast.
Wincons being a potential cast whole deck then thassas(not common or very cool) codex shredder with hullbreaker, time twister loops and with tormods crypt to keep opponents from reshuffling grave, narset wheel wheel as a pseudo wincon, and infinite mana into a walking balista.
Most urza decks arent on polymorph or proteus staff because of how good the creatures can be like chip, displacer kitten, farie mastermind and whatnot
Been playing a lot of Myrel, shield of Argive the silence on legs as liking it a lot for mono white
Not sure if Dylan will see this but I have a quick question about your Edgar markov deck. If you run Idol of Oblivion. Is it worth it to run Satff of the Storyteller?
Ayyyyyyyeee Tyler's back
On the subject of 5-mana artifacts from the mono-white discussion, I wonder if the new Karn makes it. He gives you at least 5 extra mana every turn, which can be huge.
What do you guys think about Ayara, First of Locthwain as a mono black commander in cEDH? I'm currently in the middle of building one, and from my experience it's absolutely not nearly as powerful as K'rrik, but certainly quite resilient and consistent with a combo piece and card draw in the command zone. Does have a single 2 card combo as well with Ayara + Plague of Vermin, which can be easily searched for and played with the Broodlord combo line, for example.
I wonder if anyone’s trying clown car in Urza?
Seems decent
Floor is mox but it could actually make a ton of artifacts that buff Kanstructs and tap for mana.
I HATE THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT PROPOSTEROUS SET🤷♂️ but we kinda do
clicked to hear hopefully about magda, was not disappointed
For Casual EDH Magda would be good choice. It was fun a refreshing for a while. Talking CEDH K'rrik is definitively Number 1 Mono Color Commander, faster and much more fun with a wide variaty of options other than only G.M.A
Stax is not reliable in CEDH. You cannot tutor contantly cards like Blood Moon and even if you did then somebody could easily play Dockside with their non basic Mountains, generate all colors and win in the spot.
While K'rrik has tutors and hyper fast mana. The only thing it lacks is protection because there aren't many good discard options to take care of all 3 opponents then you rather go fast all in
Can we get a "Yes Mr. Jeopardy! I'll add a vowel. " on a shirt/merch from y'all? Shit is too funny, had me dying.
2:18 in and you all are already wrong: best mono white commander = teshar
Also not mentioned:
Blue: emry
Black: trazyn the infinite
I do love my tergrid deck but playing stuff like thoughtseize for cedh would be rough, you will often target the wrong person. I play it high power when people want a stax-y challenge like Cam said.
Really interesting video i just disagree on yisan, something that make in my opinion yisan better than selvala is the fact that selvala is an explosive deck meanwhile yisan is a stax deck.
And if i have to choice what bring i will prefer bring stax than an explosive devk in a tournaement. Most important yisan can have some silver bullet against nearly every deck that not to many people know. Like take out a selvala's enforcerer in response of thoracle trigger.
Artifact Dorfs are my favorite kind of Dorfs! 🙌
Love the Monty Python reference at the beginning boys!
I like to imagine that K'rrik is pronounced the way a floorboard creaks.
I'm surprised to see Tyler on the podcast in a situation where he can't just sing the praises of Kinnan for an hour lol
I like the addition though, and I'm glad to see him
K'rrik player here. Yall both right on pronunciation per the lore at least. His "real" name was Kerrick before he was exiled.... returned as phyrexian "K'rrik.
Slicer decks in mono red are breaking the cedh meta in my area.
Wondering if you guys are gonna talk about Aftermath Commanders and see how they are in Cedh and how good they are in Cedh
Hit like so fast the ad wasn’t over
Ive built a mono color commander for the whole color pie and its funny to know i got 2 of the 5 being cedh. K'rrik and selvala were my correct picks.
I know he sucks but etali primal storm with multiple combats and helm of the host is some of the funniest shit you can do in my opinion
Very happy that ashaya was mentioned
Hey guys just fyi at around 14 minutes the audio for Dylan and cam cuts out for a few seconds
I’d love to grab a coffee and talk magic with you guys 😭
Tyler is the GOAT! Make him a staple on the podcast lol
Best MTG content really.