Mermaids, I think they only need gills (which is rarely depicted to my knowledge) to be feasible. There are numerous reasons zombies don't work, vampires only have a bunch of unrealistic traits and abilities (transforming and somehow ignoring light physics to not have reflections; realistically it would just be a human with fangs)... would be interesting though.
@@DebunkedOfficialI agree! This is a great idea. I love all of them, especially zombies because it fascinated me. We've seen zombie type behavior with ants & fungus. While we might not see undead with an insatiable love for the living, I can see the possibility of a fungus taking over and changing our behavior, even to the point where we'd bite to spread fungal spores.
@@dv9239 only 3 species of the 20ish thar dominated the world before us. And they probably survived because they learnt quicly that humans must be mauled in sight or avoided at all cost.
@@DebunkedOfficialKong isn't a normal species of gorilla so what you did isn't even remotely close to being scientifically accurate :P You should know that.
@@marekdzurenko3449I got the point, they wasted time on a stupid exercise without understanding they fucked up the myth they were trying to bust. Kong is not a "normal" animal/creature, but they were trying to compare him to normal animals/creatures. Literally, in the newer movies, they have exotic matter to explain the big animals and the hollow Earth theory.
Giraffatitan isn't a titanosaur, it's a sauropod from the Jurassic period and is more closely related to brachiosaurus than the titanosaurs from the Cretaceous period.
As the person who named Giraffatitan, I can affirm that it is not a titanosaur, although it and other brachiosaurus are close relatives of titanosaurs. Giraffatitan was not super sized, it probably maxed out at 40-50 tonnes, at best half the mass of the largest titanosaurs and other sauropods, which may have greatly exceeded 100 tonnes.
8:55 The only problem with the hypothesis about the heat is that the. cells would have adapted and produced less heat. Mammal cells produce the heat they do because it's advantageous for moving around or whatever. But if size had been a better advantage thEn the cells would have adapted to produce less heat like like reptiles.
mammal isnt reptiles. its misconception that any animal can force to adapt with mere "natural selection". if that the case, then, eskimo ppl will have lots of hair or fur covered their body in an adaptation to such harsh cold place they live. even human. with less hair cover our body. we still need a lot, i mean huge amount of sweat just to cool down our bodies. animal needs water to survive this. and many species use it to take bath.
ok hey I get it for what is important is if you and i want something like king Kong in real life I'd sejust genetically megasizing some species of gorillas to be 25ft large and change up there genes all just to make them unkillable and indestructible
"All large herbivores have small heads." Really? Name one. All of the large herbivores i can think of have enormous heads. Elephants, rhinos, hippos, moose, horses, elk, bison, buffalo, etc.. all of them have heads relatively large for their body size.
@@kj_H65f a giraffe skull is 2ft long which is pretty large. It only looks small because of the long neck and legs. But compared to the actual size of the animal, the head isn't especially small.
@dibershai6009 I've already addressed giraffes and camels are much the same. Camel heads are pretty proportionate to the rest of their body. As for elephant birds, their diet was almost entirely fruit, which is much more energy dense than vegetation and so much less food is needed, meaning a smaller head would do. But you can't use that as justification for saying that ALL large herbivores had small heads because most large herbivores eat mostly vegetation. Sauropods are another special exception as their small heads are on extremely long necks which allow them to access a large range of food without having to move their body, thus conserving energy. A large herbivore without a long neck has to do a lot of moving around to get to their food, meaning they need more energy which means more food, which means a large mouth, which means a larger overall head, like all other herbivores. So sure, there have been large herbivores in the past with small heads. But that in no way means that all large herbivores must have small heads just because they are large herbivores.
If scientists really are intent on trying to bring back extinct animals, then the woolly mammoth(or any ice age fauna) would be the ideal candidates for de-extinction as they only went extinct around 4000ya and if you released them in areas such as Siberia or Greenland where the conditions are similar to when they lived, I'm sure they'd thrive. Also on the whole dinosaur cloning thing, DNA has a half life of a few hundred years, so even in perfect conditions all traces of DNA would be lost after a few million years
Plot twist: Kong is just the size of a gorillla or a gigantopithicus. However, the human's shown in king kong are tiny, the size of a real-world monkeys. Kong isn' that giant, but the humans shown are that small.
I really have to disagree with Mark Witton's reconstruction of King Kong as it seems to be reconstructed purely around size alone instead of taking ape evolution and adaptation into account. This is mainly because there was a selective advantage for apes to not only climb but to swing around into the trees for navigation but to also grasp food with their hands so they can eat it. Even when giant apes like Orangutans, Gorillas and Gigantopithecus evolved to be quadrupedal, they retained this feature as it helped them to not only battle one another or to defend themselves from predators but to reach for food especially when they had to climb high into the trees. But since a hypothetical Kong would be too big and heavy to climb trees, he would solely use his arms to reach for food high into the trees along with using them and his body weight to break them down if he can't reach it. This is different from animals like a Paraceratherium which not only evolved from a running ancestor but also there was a selective advantage for it to evolve a long neck when it evolved gigantic body sizes. . Since you brought in different incarnations including the Monsterverse Kong, I am going to go into two scenarios where one remains as a bipedal ape and the other evolved to be a quadrupedal ape. If the former happened, well I am going to let Tiina Aumala's (aka Osmatar's) reconstruction of Kong titled the King Ape to speak for itself (which you can freely search up for yourself.) If the latter happened, his body plan would more likely resemble that of giant ground sloths as especially Eremotherium as they basically would have a very similar lifestyle to apes minus the tree climbing due to their size. Coincidentally, the biggest Eremotherium would be bigger than the original Skull Island Kong who was 5.8 meters/18 feet tall. . That is basically what I think and you can feel free to disagree if you think my reasons aren't sound enough. Besides, good job on making this video.
You left out power (in watts or horsepower) or energy (in joules). In movies, they show creatures that are 10 times taller than normal, moving ten times faster. They do that because showing a huge creature moving its fist at 1 meter per second looks very slow. So they make it move its fists and legs at 10 m/s . That means that is moving a fist that is a thousand times heavier (10x10x10) ten times faster. At 1/2mv^2 (m is mass and v is velocity), the kinetic energy would be 100,000 times more for that creature that is, "only" ten times taller. In those movies like Pacific Rim, Transformers, Kong v. Godzilla, etc. every step would be the equivalent of nuclear bombs and just having them move around would be devastating.
@@aaakkk112 flash and earth protected by speedforce. thats why flash still alive and not become a giant nuclear bomb when hitting those air molecules in light speed. but supes in other hand...
Not to mention the problem of heat dissipation: 100,000 times the power/ energy/ heat at only 10x10=100 times the skin surface area would lead to very fast overheating, even when energy input wasn't a problem. With that in mind, I wonder about the body temperature required for King Kong or Godzilla to dissipate all that heat. As I understand, at least Godzilla is nuclear powered.
@@SineMemoria Hah! I didn't think of that. Every giant creature/robot would need to covered in heat dissipation fins. Come to think of it, you never see the transformer robots with fans. At least, Godzilla has those giant plates on its back and spends most of its time under water, if you follow the fiction, anyway.
Heres the thing, sometimes in the older movies, King Kong was only like 15-20 feet, so there very well could have been, and probably has been a technically "king Kong" species before on earth
I have a slight problem with the current weight estimates of Gigan Blackii. At 16:30 his weight is dramatically too low for an organism of that size. Consider the fact that adult male Gorillas can reach weights of about 400 to 500 lbs at around 5 feet tall. Now that puts them at 5 feet shorter but only 150 lbs lighter than Gigan Blackii. Following the square cube law that weight estimate feels really really off. Other than that good presentation. 🙂
Agree, this was Mark Witton's point that we cover at 17:13. The Gigan Blackii weights overlap with Gorilla sizes so he believes that Gigantopithicus was maybe a little bigger than a large gorilla, but not much bigger. Thanks for watching 👍
@2:22 unless the gravitational constant itself has changed (which we have no evidence for) I would like to see a movie where they gave an explanation for Kong's giant size that, at the very least, couldn't be disproved. You might need new physics and/or exotic matter though.
i wonder how big creatures could get if their bones were of some other material, like if somehow they were a titanium alloy or some sort of carbon structure. along with having more efficient muscles of course
I mean, there're an underwater snails that incorporates iron into their shell composition. I doubt that anything like that is possible for animals more complicated than a 10cm slug tho, or such evolution hack would've been "discovered" by megafauna ages ago. On the other hand, human intelligence is practically an evolution hack too (because, technically speaking, our brain development allowed us as an animals to use such a thing as a nuclear bomb, for example, which, i'd say, is a pretty weird thing for a life to be able to do). So, who knows? Maybe after another billion years some big creature will try to eat some weird rocks rich in special mineral compounds, strengthening its bones and allowing it to grow for a hundred meters long))
Is there a theoretical limit to how heavy a land animal could be? If we've already discovered dinosaurs that could have been 100 + tons, is it possible that we will discover dinos of say 150 tons or 200 tons, or have we pretty much found the biggest land animals that could have existed?
King Kong 2005. In my opinion best movie every filmed in that sci fi branch. Its not only about the big boom explosions and actions but also a nice story and overall insanely made environments.
Correction: Hollow bones as found in dinosaurs and birds are NOT lighter than the bones of other animals. In fact, the skeleton of a mouse sized bird is heavier than the skeleton of a mouse. While the bones are hollow and have air pockets, the actual bone material is more dense, so the bone isn't any lighter.
I had been thinking of this same concept for a video, I even had a half finished script and 3d models for my speculative real world King Kong. most of my info is identical to what's in this video as well (specifically regarding the limiters for size, and info on the extinct giant mammals). I still might make the video, but I would have to focus more on the speculative Kong's biology and behavior to not be a worse version of this Excellent video 👍
I saw video years ago about this topic and it mentioned about the heart, size and power to pump the blood, which is quite impossible. I wonder why it wasn't mentioned here 😊
6:25 What do you mean by 'probably an asteroid'? Is there any alternative theory that is regarded as realistic? From what I've understood the Chicxulub asteroid is regarded as THE cause of extinction by the wider scientific community. Oh, and also, that one hit just north of the north-west end of the Yucatan peninsula in Central America, not somewhere in the Niger Basin in Central Africa, like your animation shows.
So sick of people calling it a nuclear winter when it's a volcanic winter when it's the result of a volcano (or volcanoes). Volcanoes don't spew nuclear radiation.
Kong was originally made to be 15' tall and there is a line where Denham sees Kong next to a stone pillar which he later measures to get a height estimate. However, in the original King Kong movie, they kept making him larger and larger with each scene until he was closer to 30' tall when killed. Movies follow the Law of Increasing Evil where The Hero can fight someone his size but the next movie, the producer says, "Let's make the bad guy bigger to get more crowds in." And so the bad-guy/monster gets larger and larger because the audience gets bored with the monster always being the same size.
12:18 it kinda does occur actually. There is a mutation called gigantism, which has the name suggests results in people growing very tall. This mutation does put strain on the skeletal system (as well as a circulatory system). In nature, such issues would greatly reduce one’s chances of survival
Title: could a mammal as big as king kong ever exist Paraceratherium: yes For people who don’t know: in comparison with the King Kong from Marian C cooper (the original King Kong): this Kong is up to 24ft tall while the paraceratherium is up to 24 - 26ft tall. Even in weight the para outclass him. having 15 - 20 metric tons weight compared to King Kong 1933 who have a weight of 4.5 metric tons So in conclusion: yes there is mammals that can be as big as King Kong, EVEN MORE THAN YOU THINK (because size is measured on mass)
I think the main issue with all the theories put out of animals experiencing extreme gigantism is that they would have conventional bones and muscles. When in reality if an animal were to reach a size if a multi-story building, it's structure would be made of a material that is reinforced enough to support it's size
Asked and answered, the director of Kong: Skull Island has already stated that his Kong is not a giant gorilla it's a monster that just happens to look like a gorilla. So there's that.
One of the questions I have about Kong (or other monsters) is whether or not the buildings they climb or jump onto could actually hold their weight! I'm sure that if Kong tried to climb the Empire State Building, it would collapse before he got more than a few stories up!
I wouldn't exactly call myself a writer, but i do create lots of characters and worlds. To introduce monsters, dragons or any creature of enormous size, i always do it alongside some type of natural adaptation that enables gravity manipulation at an unconscious level.
The surface area to volume ratio (square-cube ratio) problem is true, but why didn’t it apply to large theropods? We know for a fact that small theropods are endothermic. Tyrannosaurs should have also overheated.
@Caritas GothKaraoke: since Tyrannosaurus were built similar to modern dinosaurs (birds), they had lighter skeletons, thin arms and were more active than the fat sauropods. Therefore overheating no a problem. Besides indications are that their body temperature was lower than modern birds but while still being endothermic
I believe Giraffatitan was not a Titanosaur, but a Brachiosaurid, while the tallest Titanosaur was Sauroposeidon, with highest estimates up to 18 meters. I learned this because I actually did a video on the similar topic several weeks ago, tho not so well-illustrated 😅 in case you are interested: th-cam.com/video/baZ1bmL-0WA/w-d-xo.html All in all, your channel is amazing and was a huge inspiration for me to start doing my own 😀
No. Mammalian limit is covered by Paraceratherium, "Mammut" borsoni and Palaeoloxodon namadicus. A mammal with roughly human dimensions like Kong has an even lower upper growth limit. Probably 5 metes tall would be the absolute limit for a mammal with an apish form (Gigantopethicus was nearly 4 meters tall).
There was literally an ape that could stood upper right like king Kong in fact a mummy hand of it in Egypt was found it's bigger then humans not as big as king Kong but it's heavily close
I always find it amusing when science lovers try to postulate ancient prehistory theories as though it’s all easily accessible knowledge while simultaneously having to caveat everything with the disclaimer that we don’t actually know for sure. It’s like “look at all these cool and interesting ideas we have about the time before man that are technically purely hypothetical.” I’m sure it’s the same mentality some people have with deep ocean sea creature theories and whatnot.
This is assuming that Kong is just a normal ape that has been upscaled, and not an otherworldly giant mutant freak of nature that is not confined to the physiological constraints you have described. They are TITANS, and like Godzilla, they don't follow the rules of what we think is and isn't possible.
Just think about the tallest people in the world. Many need canes or braces to walk and in the NBA drafting people 7’3”+ always causes concern about injuries because people simply aren’t meant to be that big.
10 ft tall and 660 lbs. would be quite thin - proportionally the same as 5'10 and 130 lbs. or 6'10 and 194. 10 ft tall and 440 lbs. would be ridiculously thin for something resembling a gorilla. The picture they show for Gigantopithecus - chunky with no neck - looks like it would weigh more like 1500 lbs. if it was 10 feet tall.
The truly horrifying things in our world are what we can't even see with our naked eye like bacteria and viruses as they can easily take the biggest creature down without breaking a sweat.
Well... you don't always need natural selection in favor. In theory you just need to not have it favor smaller stature and they could randomly grow bigger, though that could give huge variance inside of a species or mate selection could do it.
If the Earth was the same size as it is now and had the same landmass that it does today, why didn’t dinosaurs eat themselves out of house and home? You see how large an African elephant is and how much it eats. Then, you have a triceratops which was much larger and a Brachiosaurus that was much, much larger. Those two species alone ate many, many multiples of pounds that elephants eat today. How could the environment sustain them? As far as gigantism not being present in mammals like it was in reptiles, the Blue Whale is the largest animal that ever lived and it’s a mammal. The humpback whale is also enormous.And if you factor in that they live in water and they’re buoyant which helps support their weight, I still believe it’s very much possible that an ape the size of King Kong could exist.
kong is a fictional animal, and the sizes of it's species vary from one film version to another. famously, for the 1933 original, willis o'brien gave the figures of 30 meters tall on the island and a larger number in new york, since the sky scrapers were bigger. much of the science given here was probably known even then, and the remains of gigantopithecus were discovered a year earlier, but a single gigantopithecus-sized ape wouldn't be a math for the dinosaurs on skull island, unless there were groups of such apes who hunted in packs. that would have been impossible to achieve with the technology of the day, as advanced as it was. it would have certainly made for a very interesting plot, even if it was eventually focused on a single ape. anyhow, without an official estimate of kong's size one guess is as good as another,
I thought the biggest known Mammal was an Elephant that got to the size of a quite respectably large Sauropod (I don't remember which), just minus the neck adding a lot to the height
I would definitely look into giraffe evolution as it's really more apparent that giraffe necks may have grown mostly for mating competition rather than food competition. They typically eat shrubs and bushes low to the ground.
They will eat food low to the ground, but they do specialize in upper shoots of trees, especially Acacia. Heck like most herbivores, they will eat bones & even small animals if they find them.
@@sonpopco-op9682 It's an availability, but not a good argument for evolutionary competition. Elephants can also reach tall tree leaves with their trunks, but that's not the main factor for evolving trunks.
No.... There was definitely less gravity 65+ million years ago...I was there... And I was like, 19 and 3 quarters feet tall, rode a dinosaur, and painted landscapes in my free time...
Paraceratherium is an extinct genus of hornless rhinocerotoids belonging to the family Paraceratheriidae. It is one of the largest terrestrial mammals that has ever existed The shoulder height was about 4.8 metres (15.7 feet), and the length about 7.4 metres (24.3 feet). Its weight is estimated to have been about 15 to 20 tonnes (33,000 to 44,000 lb). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraceratherium
If we’re talking about the more iconic King Kong that everyone pictures fighting air planes on top of Empire State, Maybe. But Kong from the MonsterVerse, Not a fucking chance.
I believe they got so big because of breeding selection and Nourishment. Not only fauna when extinct, flora too. What if they are super nutritious group of flora that went extinct because of the fauna and they evolved to be less nutritious to avoid being overconsumed
You ignore atmospheric pressure. While it has been difficult to find concrete evidence we expect the atmosphere to have been 2 to 3 times as dense meaning 20% back then would be as much as 60% oxygen today.
A primate as big as king kong could exist on water. It could be a species that only recently moved to water, so it didnt lose its primate traits yet. If blue whale exists , a king kong like ape could exist on water. Just imagine a primate that evolved to walk on the floor of a lake. It had to be a really big lake, however , it was stated that kong was the last one of his specie, this specie wouldnt last long and would have very few individuals to begin with.
In the antient Hindu temples it talks about a prehistoric animal(yali) wich lived among humans who could catch and throw elephants by its trunk . It had a lion mane and a elephant body . So why not ?
Now i don't say there's a way for evolution to go there but i like to imagine a gigantic animal with a hollow structure. Legs like the eifel tower, sorta. Horrific and weird.
I really liked your take on gigantism. But real question is that why mammals are not as large as dinosaur. If we have proof that some dinosaurs gave birth to live babies. Coz giving birth to multiple eggs at a time is more affordable than live baby. So large dinosaurs can exist but not mammals esp on land.
IF the asteroid impacted the earth, why is it that it appears only dissasours were affected the most? Whey not birds, mice, chicken, dogs, elephants? Sure they had long necks but it doesn't mean they couldn't eat grass, short trees or drink water from a well. If the environment was that harsh, small animals would have died very fast!!
How small could humans get while still functioning properly? I'm not talking about people born short but if we were to see mankind shrink down in size how far could we go before encountering problems with our body layout?
So its prooven, that there has to be life on Mars, because Kong exists. Very nice
😆 I like your train of thought 👌
Theres no life on mars
Because chuck norris took a trip there once
@@denifnaf5874 did you know: the only animal Chuck Norris fears is the chuckwalla
Stolen from clints reptiles
No Kong means there is no Mars
Now we need vids on scientifically correct godzilla, giants, merfolk, undead like zombies and vamps, and dragons!
Mermaids, I think they only need gills (which is rarely depicted to my knowledge) to be feasible. There are numerous reasons zombies don't work, vampires only have a bunch of unrealistic traits and abilities (transforming and somehow ignoring light physics to not have reflections; realistically it would just be a human with fangs)... would be interesting though.
A great idea! If this video does well then we’ll certainly explore some of those ideas 👍 Thanks for your comment
@@DebunkedOfficial I'd especially enjoy one dissecting how likely or dangerous a real zombie apocalypse could be.
@@DebunkedOfficialI agree! This is a great idea. I love all of them, especially zombies because it fascinated me. We've seen zombie type behavior with ants & fungus. While we might not see undead with an insatiable love for the living, I can see the possibility of a fungus taking over and changing our behavior, even to the point where we'd bite to spread fungal spores.
@@diyeana I believe this is the theory behind 'The Last Of Us', loved the first season and can't wait for the next!
Once huminoids developed the spear, being a large mammal became a disadvantage.
Elephants still survived
@@dv9239so? Still a disadvantage
@@dv9239 Elephants are critically endangered, numb nuts.
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@@dv9239 only 3 species of the 20ish thar dominated the world before us. And they probably survived because they learnt quicly that humans must be mauled in sight or avoided at all cost.
scientifically accurate Kong looks like a giant ground sloth
I wouldn't say that's the only option
@@areallyshortbrontothereYes. So what other options? I'm interested
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I love the scientifically accurate Kong 😆
We enjoyed making that! All credit to Mark Witton though for his guidance www.markwitton.co.uk/
@@DebunkedOfficialKong isn't a normal species of gorilla so what you did isn't even remotely close to being scientifically accurate :P You should know that.
@@NinjaNezumiWell yeah he’s a giant fucking monkey💀
@@NinjaNezumiWatch the video again. And again. And again until you actually start getting the point.
@@marekdzurenko3449I got the point, they wasted time on a stupid exercise without understanding they fucked up the myth they were trying to bust. Kong is not a "normal" animal/creature, but they were trying to compare him to normal animals/creatures. Literally, in the newer movies, they have exotic matter to explain the big animals and the hollow Earth theory.
Giraffatitan isn't a titanosaur, it's a sauropod from the Jurassic period and is more closely related to brachiosaurus than the titanosaurs from the Cretaceous period.
yep. its a macronarian.
A true 🦕 enthusiast lol
As the person who named Giraffatitan, I can affirm that it is not a titanosaur, although it and other brachiosaurus are close relatives of titanosaurs. Giraffatitan was not super sized, it probably maxed out at 40-50 tonnes, at best half the mass of the largest titanosaurs and other sauropods, which may have greatly exceeded 100 tonnes.
I think they're closer to the macaroniodon
Giraffatitan is a brachiosaurid like Brachiosaurus itself, but you are correct, Giraffatitan is not a Titanosaur
Thank you for telling me that a giant 335 feet tall gorilla that fights radioactive giant lizard scientifically could not exist
8:55 The only problem with the hypothesis about the heat is that the. cells would have adapted and produced less heat. Mammal cells produce the heat they do because it's advantageous for moving around or whatever. But if size had been a better advantage thEn the cells would have adapted to produce less heat like like reptiles.
mammal isnt reptiles. its misconception that any animal can force to adapt with mere "natural selection". if that the case, then, eskimo ppl will have lots of hair or fur covered their body in an adaptation to such harsh cold place they live.
even human. with less hair cover our body. we still need a lot, i mean huge amount of sweat just to cool down our bodies. animal needs water to survive this. and many species use it to take bath.
Edit: I replied too soon! Sorry!
ok hey I get it for what is important is if you and i want something like king Kong in real life I'd sejust genetically megasizing some species of gorillas to be 25ft
large and change up there
genes all just to make them
unkillable and indestructible
"All large herbivores have small heads."
Really? Name one. All of the large herbivores i can think of have enormous heads. Elephants, rhinos, hippos, moose, horses, elk, bison, buffalo, etc.. all of them have heads relatively large for their body size.
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@@kj_H65f a giraffe skull is 2ft long which is pretty large. It only looks small because of the long neck and legs. But compared to the actual size of the animal, the head isn't especially small.
Giraffes, camels, elephant birds, sauropods, paraceratherium and its relatives.
@dibershai6009 I've already addressed giraffes and camels are much the same. Camel heads are pretty proportionate to the rest of their body.
As for elephant birds, their diet was almost entirely fruit, which is much more energy dense than vegetation and so much less food is needed, meaning a smaller head would do. But you can't use that as justification for saying that ALL large herbivores had small heads because most large herbivores eat mostly vegetation.
Sauropods are another special exception as their small heads are on extremely long necks which allow them to access a large range of food without having to move their body, thus conserving energy. A large herbivore without a long neck has to do a lot of moving around to get to their food, meaning they need more energy which means more food, which means a large mouth, which means a larger overall head, like all other herbivores.
So sure, there have been large herbivores in the past with small heads. But that in no way means that all large herbivores must have small heads just because they are large herbivores.
You forgot ceratopcians. Some species have huge skulls.
If scientists really are intent on trying to bring back extinct animals, then the woolly mammoth(or any ice age fauna) would be the ideal candidates for de-extinction as they only went extinct around 4000ya and if you released them in areas such as Siberia or Greenland where the conditions are similar to when they lived, I'm sure they'd thrive. Also on the whole dinosaur cloning thing, DNA has a half life of a few hundred years, so even in perfect conditions all traces of DNA would be lost after a few million years
You are right, but only until I get nigel
DNA expires after 200 years of death
and how do they reproduce? through endless inbreeding between their fellow clones?
Not in Greenland, only the temperature matches there
What about dodo or Tasmanian tiger or cape tigers
Plot twist: Kong is just the size of a gorillla or a gigantopithicus. However, the human's shown in king kong are tiny, the size of a real-world monkeys. Kong isn' that giant, but the humans shown are that small.
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then we would be super strong like ants
Who wins ants or humans if they was the same size
@@lameguy9862colony vs colony or 1 on 1?
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I really have to disagree with Mark Witton's reconstruction of King Kong as it seems to be reconstructed purely around size alone instead of taking ape evolution and adaptation into account.
This is mainly because there was a selective advantage for apes to not only climb but to swing around into the trees for navigation but to also grasp food with their hands so they can eat it. Even when giant apes like Orangutans, Gorillas and Gigantopithecus evolved to be quadrupedal, they retained this feature as it helped them to not only battle one another or to defend themselves from predators but to reach for food especially when they had to climb high into the trees. But since a hypothetical Kong would be too big and heavy to climb trees, he would solely use his arms to reach for food high into the trees along with using them and his body weight to break them down if he can't reach it. This is different from animals like a Paraceratherium which not only evolved from a running ancestor but also there was a selective advantage for it to evolve a long neck when it evolved gigantic body sizes.
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Since you brought in different incarnations including the Monsterverse Kong, I am going to go into two scenarios where one remains as a bipedal ape and the other evolved to be a quadrupedal ape. If the former happened, well I am going to let Tiina Aumala's (aka Osmatar's) reconstruction of Kong titled the King Ape to speak for itself (which you can freely search up for yourself.) If the latter happened, his body plan would more likely resemble that of giant ground sloths as especially Eremotherium as they basically would have a very similar lifestyle to apes minus the tree climbing due to their size. Coincidentally, the biggest Eremotherium would be bigger than the original Skull Island Kong who was 5.8 meters/18 feet tall.
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That is basically what I think and you can feel free to disagree if you think my reasons aren't sound enough. Besides, good job on making this video.
You left out power (in watts or horsepower) or energy (in joules). In movies, they show creatures that are 10 times taller than normal, moving ten times faster. They do that because showing a huge creature moving its fist at 1 meter per second looks very slow. So they make it move its fists and legs at 10 m/s . That means that is moving a fist that is a thousand times heavier (10x10x10) ten times faster. At 1/2mv^2 (m is mass and v is velocity), the kinetic energy would be 100,000 times more for that creature that is, "only" ten times taller.
In those movies like Pacific Rim, Transformers, Kong v. Godzilla, etc. every step would be the equivalent of nuclear bombs and just having them move around would be devastating.
Thanks for adding that point! Maybe we could explore that with another Debunked video about movie giants!
@@DebunkedOfficial Please do! I'd look forward to that.
@@aaakkk112 flash and earth protected by speedforce. thats why flash still alive and not become a giant nuclear bomb when hitting those air molecules in light speed.
but supes in other hand...
Not to mention the problem of heat dissipation: 100,000 times the power/ energy/ heat at only 10x10=100 times the skin surface area would lead to very fast overheating, even when energy input wasn't a problem.
With that in mind, I wonder about the body temperature required for King Kong or Godzilla to dissipate all that heat. As I understand, at least Godzilla is nuclear powered.
@@SineMemoria Hah! I didn't think of that. Every giant creature/robot would need to covered in heat dissipation fins.
Come to think of it, you never see the transformer robots with fans. At least, Godzilla has those giant plates on its back and spends most of its time under water, if you follow the fiction, anyway.
Very informative! I never thought of how avians and mammals are different in their number of offspring, with mammals being affected by size scaling.
Heres the thing, sometimes in the older movies, King Kong was only like 15-20 feet, so there very well could have been, and probably has been a technically "king Kong" species before on earth
The largest known species of ape, gigantopithecus, was estimated at about 9 - 10 feet tall. The largest today is the gorilla, at about 6 feet tall.
Do we know how long and thick his 🍆 was? 😅
I have a slight problem with the current weight estimates of Gigan Blackii. At 16:30 his weight is dramatically too low for an organism of that size. Consider the fact that adult male Gorillas can reach weights of about 400 to 500 lbs at around 5 feet tall. Now that puts them at 5 feet shorter but only 150 lbs lighter than Gigan Blackii. Following the square cube law that weight estimate feels really really off.
Other than that good presentation. 🙂
Agree, this was Mark Witton's point that we cover at 17:13. The Gigan Blackii weights overlap with Gorilla sizes so he believes that Gigantopithicus was maybe a little bigger than a large gorilla, but not much bigger. Thanks for watching 👍
The big sauropods were already slow and built for energy efficiency
Can't imagine a mammel that size zumping around lol
@2:22 unless the gravitational constant itself has changed (which we have no evidence for)
I would like to see a movie where they gave an explanation for Kong's giant size that, at the very least, couldn't be disproved. You might need new physics and/or exotic matter though.
i wonder how big creatures could get if their bones were of some other material, like if somehow they were a titanium alloy or some sort of carbon structure. along with having more efficient muscles of course
Or Adamantium 😉
Ok, unobtanium it is! 😅
Definitely not titanium alloy for living things
I mean, there're an underwater snails that incorporates iron into their shell composition. I doubt that anything like that is possible for animals more complicated than a 10cm slug tho, or such evolution hack would've been "discovered" by megafauna ages ago. On the other hand, human intelligence is practically an evolution hack too (because, technically speaking, our brain development allowed us as an animals to use such a thing as a nuclear bomb, for example, which, i'd say, is a pretty weird thing for a life to be able to do). So, who knows? Maybe after another billion years some big creature will try to eat some weird rocks rich in special mineral compounds, strengthening its bones and allowing it to grow for a hundred meters long))
Is there a theoretical limit to how heavy a land animal could be? If we've already discovered dinosaurs that could have been 100 + tons, is it possible that we will discover dinos of say 150 tons or 200 tons, or have we pretty much found the biggest land animals that could have existed?
Gigantopethiticus: Am i a joke to you?
Never. Please don't punch me 😅
Nowhere near as big as kong is said to be though yeah?
Watch the whole video
What's your favourite Kong from which movie??
Kong
Skull Island, I think he gets silly big after that.
King Homer!
King Kong 2005. In my opinion best movie every filmed in that sci fi branch. Its not only about the big boom explosions and actions but also a nice story and overall insanely made environments.
I'll have to give that another watch @@japorto100
Just so you know african elephants can get to 4m tall and weight over 10 tonnes. That's taller and heavier than any T rex found
(Insert "yo mama" joke here)
T-Rex grew too 12 meters so that’s far bigger than any elephant
@@wetherall1 Longer, not bigger
T rex can weigh up to 11-12 tonnes in some cases
So far the largest Trex specimen found is estimated at 11 tons. 12 max
"Hm, what was i watching this video for?"
11:07
"Ah yes, kong"
Correction:
Hollow bones as found in dinosaurs and birds are NOT lighter than the bones of other animals. In fact, the skeleton of a mouse sized bird is heavier than the skeleton of a mouse.
While the bones are hollow and have air pockets, the actual bone material is more dense, so the bone isn't any lighter.
It's worth noting, your statement that the oxygen in the atmosphere may have been as high as 35% 300mya is also 100m years before the dinosaurs.
"• dwayne johnson." 😂
Gravity from back then did not exists cause Isaac newton didn’t discover it yet
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Not true.
Alright we got a scientifically accurate Kong, where’s Godzilla? I wanna see how realistic a giant fire breathing semi aquatic lizard is- XD
I had been thinking of this same concept for a video, I even had a half finished script and 3d models for my speculative real world King Kong. most of my info is identical to what's in this video as well (specifically regarding the limiters for size, and info on the extinct giant mammals).
I still might make the video, but I would have to focus more on the speculative Kong's biology and behavior to not be a worse version of this Excellent video 👍
I saw video years ago about this topic and it mentioned about the heart, size and power to pump the blood, which is quite impossible. I wonder why it wasn't mentioned here 😊
0:58 short neck giraffe isn't real, it can't hurt you
Short neck giraffe:
It's just an okapi with a giraffe pattern
biblically accurate kong
6:25 What do you mean by 'probably an asteroid'? Is there any alternative theory that is regarded as realistic? From what I've understood the Chicxulub asteroid is regarded as THE cause of extinction by the wider scientific community.
Oh, and also, that one hit just north of the north-west end of the Yucatan peninsula in Central America, not somewhere in the Niger Basin in Central Africa, like your animation shows.
So sick of people calling it a nuclear winter when it's a volcanic winter when it's the result of a volcano (or volcanoes). Volcanoes don't spew nuclear radiation.
Kong was originally made to be 15' tall and there is a line where Denham sees Kong next to a stone pillar which he later measures to get a height estimate. However, in the original King Kong movie, they kept making him larger and larger with each scene until he was closer to 30' tall when killed.
Movies follow the Law of Increasing Evil where The Hero can fight someone his size but the next movie, the producer says, "Let's make the bad guy bigger to get more crowds in." And so the bad-guy/monster gets larger and larger because the audience gets bored with the monster always being the same size.
Whats the name of the program that you use for the animations?
We use a combination of programs from Adobe - Illustrator, After Effects and Animate. Thanks for your comment! 👍
Dog I've been promised a mammoth for like 20 years now.
King Kong:🔥🔥
Scientifically accurate kong:😹😹
0:15 Love the Dota 2 Ursa ultimate sound effect here.
Another day, another amazing video ! 🎉😊
I love the idea so far 😄
I love the art style.
"Giant difficult to produce name" amazing line ! 😂
Totally agree! What could possibly go wrong?
King Homer LMAO 😆
12:18 it kinda does occur actually. There is a mutation called gigantism, which has the name suggests results in people growing very tall. This mutation does put strain on the skeletal system (as well as a circulatory system). In nature, such issues would greatly reduce one’s chances of survival
Title: could a mammal as big as king kong ever exist
Paraceratherium: yes
For people who don’t know: in comparison with the King Kong from Marian C cooper (the original King Kong): this Kong is up to 24ft tall while the paraceratherium is up to 24 - 26ft tall. Even in weight the para outclass him. having 15 - 20 metric tons weight compared to King Kong 1933 who have a weight of 4.5 metric tons
So in conclusion: yes there is mammals that can be as big as King Kong, EVEN MORE THAN YOU THINK (because size is measured on mass)
I think the main issue with all the theories put out of animals experiencing extreme gigantism is that they would have conventional bones and muscles. When in reality if an animal were to reach a size if a multi-story building, it's structure would be made of a material that is reinforced enough to support it's size
Asked and answered, the director of Kong: Skull Island has already stated that his Kong is not a giant gorilla it's a monster that just happens to look like a gorilla. So there's that.
Great video, as always. Thank you.
Thank you ☺️
Awesome video but did you just say giraffatitan was a titanosaurus? I think it was more akin to a brachiosaurus...
One of the questions I have about Kong (or other monsters) is whether or not the buildings they climb or jump onto could actually hold their weight! I'm sure that if Kong tried to climb the Empire State Building, it would collapse before he got more than a few stories up!
The only accurate channel in this visual style, honestly.
7:55 *cries in paleoloxodon*
Ah im stupid
I wouldn't exactly call myself a writer, but i do create lots of characters and worlds. To introduce monsters, dragons or any creature of enormous size, i always do it alongside some type of natural adaptation that enables gravity manipulation at an unconscious level.
The surface area to volume ratio (square-cube ratio) problem is true, but why didn’t it apply to large theropods? We know for a fact that small theropods are endothermic. Tyrannosaurs should have also overheated.
@Caritas GothKaraoke: since Tyrannosaurus were built similar to modern dinosaurs (birds), they had lighter skeletons, thin arms and were more active than the fat sauropods. Therefore overheating no a problem. Besides indications are that their body temperature was lower than modern birds but while still being endothermic
I didn't know that paraceratherium was the same size as a bus and two times heavier than tyrannosaurus rex.
I believe Giraffatitan was not a Titanosaur, but a Brachiosaurid, while the tallest Titanosaur was Sauroposeidon, with highest estimates up to 18 meters. I learned this because I actually did a video on the similar topic several weeks ago, tho not so well-illustrated 😅 in case you are interested:
th-cam.com/video/baZ1bmL-0WA/w-d-xo.html
All in all, your channel is amazing and was a huge inspiration for me to start doing my own 😀
16:25 thats still massive and im willing to bet there were specimens that were much bigger
No. Mammalian limit is covered by Paraceratherium, "Mammut" borsoni and Palaeoloxodon namadicus.
A mammal with roughly human dimensions like Kong has an even lower upper growth limit.
Probably 5 metes tall would be the absolute limit for a mammal with an apish form (Gigantopethicus was nearly 4 meters tall).
I forgot this was a video about king kong lol 😂😂😂
There was literally an ape that could stood upper right like king Kong in fact a mummy hand of it in Egypt was found it's bigger then humans not as big as king Kong but it's heavily close
Are you referring to Gigantopithicus Blackii?
Man, this channel is unreasonably underrated 😢. You guy's production is top tier 💯
I always find it amusing when science lovers try to postulate ancient prehistory theories as though it’s all easily accessible knowledge while simultaneously having to caveat everything with the disclaimer that we don’t actually know for sure. It’s like “look at all these cool and interesting ideas we have about the time before man that are technically purely hypothetical.”
I’m sure it’s the same mentality some people have with deep ocean sea creature theories and whatnot.
This is assuming that Kong is just a normal ape that has been upscaled, and not an otherworldly giant mutant freak of nature that is not confined to the physiological constraints you have described. They are TITANS, and like Godzilla, they don't follow the rules of what we think is and isn't possible.
I've got an idea for a video, how do I contact you?
Sauropod-like Humanoid Kong 15:12
I am glad we added the competition portion to the giraffe segment. We don’t want people getting the wrong idea about giraffe necks. 😆
Just think about the tallest people in the world. Many need canes or braces to walk and in the NBA drafting people 7’3”+ always causes concern about injuries because people simply aren’t meant to be that big.
It's not easy to be huge on land
10 ft tall and 660 lbs. would be quite thin - proportionally the same as 5'10 and 130 lbs. or 6'10 and 194. 10 ft tall and 440 lbs. would be ridiculously thin for something resembling a gorilla. The picture they show for Gigantopithecus - chunky with no neck - looks like it would weigh more like 1500 lbs. if it was 10 feet tall.
very intresting to see thath kong would have looked much more like paraceratherium then a ape
Completely agree 👍
*"Reality is often disappointing."*
- Disney Marvel Thanos
Can biggest human defeat smallest gorilla?
An interesting idea 🤔
smallest gorilla you mean a baby ? Then you don't even need biggest human to beat it lol.
@@januszpolak254 baby gorilla have crazy durability. It was good swing weapon for kong
Definitely! (Pulls out gun 🇺🇸)
😂😂😂
The truly horrifying things in our world are what we can't even see with our naked eye like bacteria and viruses as they can easily take the biggest creature down without breaking a sweat.
A gigantopithicus would've been insane to see in real life
Kong's body is probably comprised of magical unobtainium so that he can withstand these forces
Well... you don't always need natural selection in favor. In theory you just need to not have it favor smaller stature and they could randomly grow bigger, though that could give huge variance inside of a species or mate selection could do it.
Do you have a video about scientifically accurate titan and or giants?
If the Earth was the same size as it is now and had the same landmass that it does today, why didn’t dinosaurs eat themselves out of house and home? You see how large an African elephant is and how much it eats. Then, you have a triceratops which was much larger and a Brachiosaurus that was much, much larger. Those two species alone ate many, many multiples of pounds that elephants eat today. How could the environment sustain them? As far as gigantism not being present in mammals like it was in reptiles, the Blue Whale is the largest animal that ever lived and it’s a mammal. The humpback whale is also enormous.And if you factor in that they live in water and they’re buoyant which helps support their weight, I still believe it’s very much possible that an ape the size of King Kong could exist.
kong is a fictional animal, and the sizes of it's species vary from one film version to another. famously, for the 1933 original, willis o'brien gave the figures of 30 meters tall on the island and a larger number in new york, since the sky scrapers were bigger. much of the science given here was probably known even then, and the remains of gigantopithecus were discovered a year earlier, but a single gigantopithecus-sized ape wouldn't be a math for the dinosaurs on skull island, unless there were groups of such apes who hunted in packs. that would have been impossible to achieve with the technology of the day, as advanced as it was. it would have certainly made for a very interesting plot, even if it was eventually focused on a single ape. anyhow, without an official estimate of kong's size one guess is as good as another,
I thought the biggest known Mammal was an Elephant that got to the size of a quite respectably large Sauropod (I don't remember which), just minus the neck adding a lot to the height
Oh nevermind it was shown a few minutes later
I would definitely look into giraffe evolution as it's really more apparent that giraffe necks may have grown mostly for mating competition rather than food competition. They typically eat shrubs and bushes low to the ground.
They will eat food low to the ground, but they do specialize in upper shoots of trees, especially Acacia. Heck like most herbivores, they will eat bones & even small animals if they find them.
@@sonpopco-op9682 It's an availability, but not a good argument for evolutionary competition. Elephants can also reach tall tree leaves with their trunks, but that's not the main factor for evolving trunks.
@@TerrinXYour straw man argument only "
explains" why giraffes dont have trunks. not helpful.
No.... There was definitely less gravity 65+ million years ago...I was there... And I was like, 19 and 3 quarters feet tall, rode a dinosaur, and painted landscapes in my free time...
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Paraceratherium is an extinct genus of hornless rhinocerotoids belonging to the family Paraceratheriidae. It is one of the largest terrestrial mammals that has ever existed
The shoulder height was about 4.8 metres (15.7 feet), and the length about 7.4 metres (24.3 feet). Its weight is estimated to have been about 15 to 20 tonnes (33,000 to 44,000 lb). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraceratherium
If we’re talking about the more iconic King Kong that everyone pictures fighting air planes on top of Empire State, Maybe. But Kong from the MonsterVerse, Not a fucking chance.
I believe they got so big because of breeding selection and Nourishment. Not only fauna when extinct, flora too. What if they are super nutritious group of flora that went extinct because of the fauna and they evolved to be less nutritious to avoid being overconsumed
You ignore atmospheric pressure. While it has been difficult to find concrete evidence we expect the atmosphere to have been 2 to 3 times as dense meaning 20% back then would be as much as 60% oxygen today.
Square-Cube Law, the enemy of all kaiju.
A primate as big as king kong could exist on water. It could be a species that only recently moved to water, so it didnt lose its primate traits yet. If blue whale exists , a king kong like ape could exist on water. Just imagine a primate that evolved to walk on the floor of a lake. It had to be a really big lake, however , it was stated that kong was the last one of his specie, this specie wouldnt last long and would have very few individuals to begin with.
Kong, in the new canon, comes from a pseudo parallel realm, along with the other titans. Hence their size and ability. Cause its a movie.
In the antient Hindu temples it talks about a prehistoric animal(yali) wich lived among humans who could catch and throw elephants by its trunk . It had a lion mane and a elephant body . So why not ?
Yet another reason why the giants in religious texts never existed.
We need to rename mars to skull island NOW!!!!
😆 I like your thinking
Now i don't say there's a way for evolution to go there but i like to imagine a gigantic animal with a hollow structure. Legs like the eifel tower, sorta. Horrific and weird.
It’s virtually impossible to find a fossil of ANY KIND that represents the largest example of that animal.
Nothing goes wrong if we bring back the wooly mammoth. People killed the wooly mammoth to extinction and wooly mammoth never killed us to extinction.
I think we may be surprised if we were to see the animals of other planets. Which information would change our perspective.
Hmm. Co2 levels look pretty low at the moment on that graph. Interesting...
I really liked your take on gigantism. But real question is that why mammals are not as large as dinosaur. If we have proof that some dinosaurs gave birth to live babies. Coz giving birth to multiple eggs at a time is more affordable than live baby. So large dinosaurs can exist but not mammals esp on land.
Ok no kong... but what about mighty joe young?
Mighty Joe's schlong 😅
IF the asteroid impacted the earth, why is it that it appears only dissasours were affected the most? Whey not birds, mice, chicken, dogs, elephants? Sure they had long necks but it doesn't mean they couldn't eat grass, short trees or drink water from a well. If the environment was that harsh, small animals would have died very fast!!
Thing is gorillas are already really robustly built so I'm not sure square cube law is much of an issue for them.
How small could humans get while still functioning properly? I'm not talking about people born short but if we were to see mankind shrink down in size how far could we go before encountering problems with our body layout?
As long as wh res exist, dude will keep being bred bigger