Top 6 NED RIG Mistakes
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- While many anglers have picked up on the Ned Rig due to its simple ability to produce bites in tough conditions, most are still not maximizing its effectiveness due to a few simple - and easily corrected - misconceptions or errors in tackle selection and technique. Here's a list of missteps we see time and time again from our customers that limit their success with the Ned Rig.
This video goes along with our Top 8 Ned Rig Mistakes article which you can read here: zmanfishing.com/cms/chatter/8... - กีฬา
Can’t beat the Elaztech 🔥 I work at Cabelas & every time a customer asks about the Ned rig I make sure they’re using Z-Man! 😂 Too many people missing out... Great video! 💯
Ned Rig has been my go to for 2 years now, and nothing beats zmans original Ned rig setup.
Thanks for a great video I send the bed rig often and this video will help me in the future
Awesome Ned tip overview, Miles!! Totally agree about having to drag set loose enough to where you barely hear it when you set the hook. That is crucial, especially if you’re using 6 pound line like I do. God bless!
Nice video. Glad you covered setting spinning reel drag & Texas rigging shroom head. We have a lot of docks around our lake and this will keep me from getting hung up- no brainer!
Thanks for your declaration!
Great mistake review. Helps simplify things. Thanks.
Love tip #6, working them near or in cover gets it done. As mentioned I'd recommend Texas rigging them on a locking head to keep from hanging up.
Nicely done and professional as well .
Tips 1-3 sounded good...... tip 4 sounded pretty obvious coming from someone wearing a Zman hat and a Zman shirt....
Lol I just did that!!!!!
Gotta pay that water bill somehow.
lol for once i actually agree with the shameless self plug tho. no other plastics on the market work anywhere close to as well as the zman stuff in my (admittedly small) experience. other baits may have elaztech plastic but not in the same formulation, and it really shows when you stand them up off the bottom.
@@dustinglasier6417 100% agree. Nothing catches them like this specific brand. I usually break off my hook on something before the bait is ever close to done. $5-6 a pack of 8 and they straight up produce. Multi species, great bait to learn a new body of water with because almost guaranteed something is gonna bite.
@@dustinglasier6417 elaztech is in some strikeking softbaits (technologie from Elaztech) but all Zman's are made of that outerspace ufo style of rubber
wonderful video. you got right to the point, and explained everything thoroughly without beating around the bush, and being long-winded
Yes! Happy to be a big fan of Elaztech. It is, as you mentioned, 'magic' and the extensive product line is superb. Kudos to Z-Man for a well deserved homage to Ned Kehde and his extensive experience in the Finesse fishing genre. As many comments pointed out, the idea of using small pieces or remnants of plastisol has been around a long time. No matter, amazing lures continue to come from the Z-man design team with assistance from veteran anglers like Drew Reese. Agree totally with using medium weight gear and lighter line. 8 lb fluoro or mono seems to work better to resist abrasion in rocks and brush and brings all sizes of fish to hand. Keep up the great work, Don
Excellent video, very helpful.
Elaztech did not pioneer the Ned rig. It was pioneered by a man who used his tore up senkos by cutting them in half. Elaztech simply improved upon the technique.
He used Z-Man Zinkerz and he was a Z-Man Sponsor named Ned..
@@codray24 yes but not originally and Doug is correct
Ned Kehde. We just call it a jig n worm. Yes it works great but next time your going to ned rig try this. Put a nail weight in 1 end and Texas rig the other. Looks just like the Ned except it always stands up and it goes through weeds rocks anything. Been using it on Erie and the Detroit River since the 90s. Awesome bed bait!
lol this made me laugh im 29 and i been using the Ned rig since i was 7 i just didn’t know what it was called unto Z man names it lol
Juststatinfacts SV thats globally known as the Neko rig these days
Great video and very helpful thank you
Z-man finesse TRD is the best. Even caught a 20lb flathead and someone the hook didn’t bend. I loose a lot of fish on these hooks but still my go to!
Good video here man. Spot on with that drag setting when using these. Honestly, I'd never use this in my home state of Florida but these things are killer in NJ and the surrounding area. 😎🎣
good ad - informative and useful
thanks for the info-enjoyed the video
I use it on my BFS light/UL setups. Shimano BFS Scorpion on rod 5-12lb. 8x braid and 6x fluor leader, and Shimano BFS Aldebaran on 2-6lb Rod 4x Yo-Zuri Hybrid. I will never debate using baitcasting for light lures anymore. Ned Rigs are amazing, especially Tiny Child Rig. I don't even lose them anymore. no more hang-ups. I catch any Bass 3lb+ just fine.
Thank you for the tips
I honestly think elaztech is the way to go with ned rigs and I've had one bait catch over 40 fish in one day before I needed to replace it. I would recommend buying the heavier wire Z man hooks though because the smaller hooks bend out or the hook keeper breaks with a medium spinning rod, 6 pound line and small bass
Go medium lite, don't set hook hard, just reel down. You can even remove keeper if you are going to glue the head.
Very good lures and it produces. Caught a 7.1 lb bass on a trd this year
Z-Man Fishing TV - you gotta make sure to capitalize on the smaller rivers and streams market--fishing the TRD HogZ (green pumpkin) almost isn't fair on the Shenandoah River for smallies. My father and I have made it our annual summer trip since I was 5 years old (I'll be 41 later this month) and it's changed the game. We've used the Finesse TRD, BugZ, TicklerZ and the CrawZ all killed them. My favorite part, is that is how the durability of these lures has shrunken the amount of gear I need to take out on the canoe, kayak or wading.
Just did this earlier this summer and it was too much fun. I went out two more times after to chase em' cause they could just not get enough. Also caught a 25" cat on the pb&j color TRD!
Love it! Thanks for the tips. I only fish zman now
When Texas rigging it, set the hook a little harder to drive it through the plastic.
Great tips, i broke 2 off on the hook set yesterday, going to change the way I set the hook. Thanks!!
Let us know how you do!
Flat out awesome video
My cousin and I just started using the ned rig last month. I was a bit skeptical at first but now I believe.
Awesome video brotha!
6 foot 19 medium power extra fast action with 8lb fluorocarbon on a Shimano Stradic 3000 FA (2nd Gen) is my go-to Ned rig setup. Caught a lot of fish with it this fall
Gotta luv Z Man 👍
thanks z-man, from Kusadasi Turkey
Would like to see video on head weight (jig) for the different applications (particularly the different types of baits like TRD vs. creature)and conditions. I often vary weight and bait, but wonder if I'm optimizing presentations correctly. There is a big difference from the old round head jigs and plastics vs. Z Man products. I will say I have had a large order increase in catch rates over the older presentations. Great product line👍.
Hey Richard, typically when it comes to head weight, you want to start with the most light weight jighead you can get away with while still being able to feel contact with the bottom. If you're fishing over 20' deep or in heavier current then you'll want a heavier head. A good rule of thumb is to start with a 1/15 or 1/10th oz. head and go heavier from there if needed. Same applies whether you're throwing a TRD or one of our new finesse creature baits like the TRD CrawZ or TRD BugZ. Hope this helps.
Thank you!
We use these for smallmouth bass on the Delaware River bordering PA and NJ. It is tougher to fish in heavy, moving water, but days of landing dozens of bass are common for us.
The Z-man Ned is my absolute favorite. I catch Bass, Perch, Walleye and Pike on it.
I've also caught catfish on it. It catches any type fish.
Is this exclusively a boat fishing rig? I’m a bank fisher and I use bait caster and braided line
Just started throwing the ned. 3/3 so far. 🤙🤙
New tip if you live in Arizona put these baits in boat cooler in summer they will melt in compartments and sun but they are very effective in bushes and rock
Dig your and Salt Strong vids for hearing about what's new. Recently been getting back into freshwater after a few decades of pretty much just salt, except the pond I had in my backyard about 25 years ago. I'll have to try this one first when bass opens in Pa again 3rd Sat in June. I've added Neko and Inurig to the box while waiting. Stripers and Black Drum at the Jersey shore and some really decent Pike and Muskie at a State Park not far from here, so I'm sure I can find something to do waiting on Bass LOL
Caught my PB on a zman chartreuse hula stick. First cast on the fall. Thought i was snagged couldn't believe it!
Wow I'm really late to Neds party. Last weekend my buddy and I couldn't buy a bite. After trying everything in the boat I put on a Need Rig and got a bass then another and another. He grabbed one and we both caught fish the rest of the day. Most were small but a few sure weren't! I went and picked some jigs and 4 bags the next day. I'm not a great bass fisherman so I'll take all the magic I can get. Be safe and God bless
Great 👍 video
What brand and model spinning rod do you use? Looking to upgrade rods this year especially with the Ned rig to feel the bottom better and bites?
Good video! Have been using the Finesse TRD a lot lately but, have a question. In rigging the finesse TRD, do you bring the hook out through the "nubbed/bubbled" end or the other end? I see a line etched into the bait that runs down the nubbed/bubbled end. It seems if you bring the hook out at the end of that line, the finesse TRD hook will come out of the bait at the correct place. Any rigging tips you can offer? Thanks!
Line it up with the seam on the side. Find out how far the hook will go. Chucky side first. Make sure you keep it all lined up. Or it'll flop on the water like LeBron does in the playoffs.
Thanks for preaching the 4lb and lighter lines. It's the best thing I ever did. 20 some years ago. I dot see many people promoting it much. 4lb let's may lures perform better ,etc.
What about Ned rigs on a medium light Spincast rod? It also seems like a good combination
Thanks for all information.. my biggest question is…. What color lure you’re use as for maximum clear to full clear water???
Iv been fishing these for 4yrs I use a medium power with 6lb braid to 6lb Fluor leader caught a 6lber and almost a 8lber this is my go to bait for summer
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Yep, pretty much what he said! 👆
remi I know what you mean.
@@docbailey3265
everything about buoyancy
We had one too, but the wheels fell off
I love it cause of the durability. That alone makes it a winner for me. Love other baits brands too but the appendages get bit off so easily even by small pan fish sometimes it gets frustrating. Like the rage bug from strike king for example, my lakes have alot of perch. I drag one of thos around on a t rig and i can feel them nipping at it. By the time i retrieving it back to the boat 3 legs are gone before i even get a bass lol. But they can peck at the zman stuff all day dont matter. Since you licence elaztec 3x to strike king you should let them make the rage bug in that material. Or you guys should make somthing like it. I know you guys have the palmetto bug, but the legs dont kick. It would be amazing if you could make something like the bugz you guys have but with kicking legs.
Check out our Turbo CrawZ. It's a great kicking bait that can be fished alone or on the back of a jig.
Z-man never pioneered the "ned " rig ... it has been around for years
e-laz-tech plastic is the game changer here
how can you fish a jig the wrong way?
kevin medland they made it popular that is what he means by pioneered
@@djavidianmx1832 pioneering also means developing. Developing means grow or cause to grow and become more mature, advanced, or elaborate. So yes they absolutely pioneered it. Please use a dictionary before being an internet dick.
A 7th Ned rig mistake, using the googan Ned worms.
Is there something wrong with them?
@@sickassbeats Googan baits are trash.
Googan baits put fish in the boat for me....what do i know?
they dont stand up when it hits bottom on pauses and they put rattles in their neds which personally i think is a gimmick and is silly. just buy the trd from zman, googan is a hype brand and tried to make the ned better but they made it worse by adding weight to the bait, its just not good for a fineness fishing.
Took the kayak out to the local pond last week. Started using Senko Texas rigged with no luck...switched to Ned rig and bam....started catching fish. Great tactic to fight off the skunk!!
I have made all 6 mistakes lol just started fishing the ned two weeks ago so I’m learning
Keep at it! Let us know how you do.
What does TRD stand for? Great video thanks I've never used one but I will now
The real deal
@@troutmiester7441 cool thanks jim
I use 12 flouro leader and 10 braid backing and I have bent hooks out a little , granted they bend back and keep working but they only bend out on snags
Dude they like this thing on the move too lol i constantly get accidental hookups when reeling back for another cast 😂
Happen two me yesterday. Ate it in 2 inches of water by the bank. I didn’t even reel him in I just lifted my rod and that’s how close he was 😂
So you're saying it can be effective just swimming it?
@@Shurmash For some strange reason... YES
you can jig it, swim it, drag it. or do all at once. depends how the fish are biting. but if you swim it id recommend retrieving it like you would a jerk bait “tap tap pause”, ive had quite a bite of luck doing that.
what size/weight zman ned rig jig head do y'all use? i've heard 1/10 or 1/15. fishing from the bank, depth is up to like 7 feet or so in a lake
Great question Billy! We always recommend starting off with as light of a jighead as possible. The key is a slow sink rate. Try starting with the 1/15th oz. and if you find yourself fishing deeper than 10-15 feet or if you're fishing in heavy current try going a little heavier like a 1/10th or 1/6th oz. jighead. Thanks for reaching out and be sure to let us know how you do!
Ya guys have done this for years but it didnt work nearly as well that's why Z Man cashed in great baits great design
Mistake #7 - mixing these baits with other soft plastics then sobbing when you open the tackle box the next day.
Lol totally agree. I found that out the hard way with the man first came out with their plastics. I’m kind of surprised Miles did not mention that, however the topic was more around mistakes “fishing“ the Ned Rather than the bed itself.
@@mikegardiner3934 He didn't mention it because they want you to make that mistake and buy more plastics! lol
I gave up on TRD elaztech because of this, sorry Z-man. I just buy senko style and cut them in half and I still slay consistently.
This is why I keep my worms in the bag 😂
It’s like the blob attacked your tackle box.
I was using 4ib test line, and didn't losen up my drag, smallmouth broke line like nothing.
8th mistake: Fishing them near cover because they get hung-up like crazy!
Snaggless jigheads they work like magic and gets you Into the heavy weeded spots where the smallmouth love to hide
Check out some of our weedless heads if you're getting hung up too much.
Check out lifted jigs they make a ned ewg seedless hook and jighead, it's much better than z mans, no hate on zman just facts
Michael Hungerford haven’t tried those yet i’ll have to give em a shot they were all sold out when i looked so i went with z man but i like trying all different stuff
Randy on my channel I have a video on Neds and use a weedless head, also use different baits. Doing bait reviews for bass and crappie fishing. FLC
Good video, but I do not agree on the light hook, you can certainly use a small heavy hood that won't change the action, but prevents your hook from bending out.
I see and hear to many people complain about losing fish on the ned rig and how bad it is and how they'll never use it again, yet they're throwing it on their flipping and pitching set ups. That's a very good point on throwing it on light line
Have caught 100's of bass on the ned rig, never had a hook break. Have made videos on different baits that work on the ned. Also a weedless jig hook that can be fished around cover. I use ML rod and 6 lb. test line. FLC
I use heavy tackle. Haven't lost a fish. And only bend if you don't have your drag set right. I use a 4000 reel as well. I also will fish ned rigs erratic. And like to move it. I'll catch 12-13 bass in a afternoon. I feel people are missing out. Might be wrong, but I caught my PB this way. And my first bowfin. .
I’ve been fishing the “Ned Rig” for nearly 25 years since I was a young kid! Way before it was fashionable and had a name! Back then I simply used it as a way to extend the lives of plastic baits that had parts of them broken off or as a way to fish small plastic baits since I nearly always got more bites when I fished the lures that way although I did tend to catch a lot more small bass with that style of fishing!
What length rod works best? I'm using a 6 foot medium action now.
What about setting hook with the finesse bullets
I have friends who swear they simply don't get the same amount of bites with the elaztech baits as they do from similar sized/shaped baits. Sure they last forever, but they are also a pain to rig and deal with. I think it's a bit hoggish of ZMan to try to make the case that just because they pioneered these elaztech baits (not the technique) that you're not going to succeed to the greatest extent unless you use their elaztech baits. I was into a big school of fish readily eating the shad shape worm on a drop shot, so I figured it was a good time to try the Zman elaztech look alike (kind of) minnow bait in the same green pumpkin, but the fish didn't want it. Your tips were good and that's the power of endorsement videos. When your shirt and hat match, you know what's coming. Almost over the top to make that suggestion - only a portion of the strikes come when its on the bottom, standing up, and no bait, despite their buoyancy, stand up every time they fall. Enough said.
Roboworm makes a killer ned bait. Check them out
Another tip. ElaZtech soft plastics cannot be repaired if there are opened or cracked areas that need bonding. It will bond to the painted surfaces of the weighted jig head and the end of the TRD worm with superglue. Don't mix ElaZtech with other plastic worms. They will chemically bond to reach other and cause deformation. I've tried Mend-It with no success too. Certain fish attractants will also desolve the plastic material.
Do the bullet head weedless heads stand up straight still without the mushroom? If not you guys should make a widegap variety of Ned heads so we can t rig it on and make it weedless. Trying to get more into the Ned rig but I’m coming back with grass on every cast :(
Great question! Since the Finesse BulletZ are keel weighted, it causes the bait to sit at a 45 degree angle. This makes this hook perfect for finesse creature baits like the TRD CrawZ or TRD BugZ. Also, it's technically the buoyant ElaZtech material that causes the bait to stand up off the bottom, not the actual jighead. As for the wide gap idea...stay tuned!
Great tips and solid explanations. Only down side is the trd soft plastics melt easily. Don't leave them in the sun or the car. Found that out the hard way!
Which is the best zman jig for the ned rig?
Is 30 pound braid okay with 8 pound triple xt low vis leader ? The braid was all I had so I used it
I get it done with the PB&J or Coppertruese TRD's. When all else fails or the fishing is just slow I can pull em in with these most of the time.
I was fishing still murky water with spinners with no luck aside from some freshly spawned white crappie. Switched to the ned rig just for fun and almost immediately hooked into a 5lb bass that had followed the rig up to shore. Love the little thing!
Just started bass fishing / saltwater fisherman. First kayak tournament coming up ......I think NED rig way to go ...
I only have 3 poles ( 1 spinning combo ). it is a 6'6 medium heavy kastking rod with a 6:2:1 gear ratio lews Mach smash. I was wondering if I would still be able to use it on that rod? thanks for the help
Brodie, I've been fishing Z-man baits for about the last 4 years, in all kinds of configurations, Ned rigs, Neko, TX rigs, drop shots, split shot, etc. You can definitely use your outfit, but be sure and loosen the drag so you won't rip the jig out on hookset. The most amazing thing I've found when fishing the Ned rig was that I nearly always SEE the bite before I feel it! Which is why I use a yellow or white braid to 6-10 lb fluoro leader. Caught crappie, bluegill, bass over 6 lbs and pike over 10 lbs on Ned rigs! (Really lucky with the pike). Watch your line and easy on hookset, you'll do great!
@@johne4220 thanks for the help
Is it possible to put a rattle in one of these baits and if so how ?? Great video and love these Lures ... so do the perch 👍🏽😀🎣🎣
go look at googan baits, they’re ned baits are called rattlin neds, they have a rattle in the end of the bait
@@lucifer3201 cheers buddy 🎣🎣👍🏽👍🏽😀😀
@@johnloxley8705 tight lines!
you mention using a spinning reel set up, would a spincast be okay? novice fisherman here.
Are Z-man’s ned heads and weedless heads made out of lead or a different blend of metal?
Lead
Sounds like fishing normally. haha. Too many people caught up on power fishing that they apply that to everything.
I use to never fish over 12lbs. 20lbs+ Carp fished with 4lbs, 30lbs+ Salmon and 6'+ Sturgeon on 12lbs. I only started fishing above 12lbs line to fit the crowd. lol.
That looks like braid? Didn't you recommend light flouro line...Or do you just use a flouro top shot?
My first and last experience with Z man was 3 packages of melted grubs when I opened my tackle box the morning of a tournament on Lake Champlin ..In 40 yrs of fishing never happened..keep the zman ill never switch from kalin again
Just fyi: "The original TRD..." (?) The Ned rig originally used a ZinkerZ cut in half. When more people learned about this 'new' rig, zman then came out with the TRD and made them, pound-for-pound, more expensive than the zinkerz. And 'jig-worm' rigs were used before zman existed.
What rod is he using I’m looking for a ML spinning rod and I’m curious
Please
Miles uses a Fitzgerald rod
In all the videos you’re using colored braid line. Which one is it?
Cithral braid mainline to a lighter fluoro leader
Sonar uses Seaguar Smackdown braided line.
When I first handed the wife a ned rig and said "Cast it out, let it fall and give it short hops on the way back". She Chucks it out and fishes it like a crank. She couldn't keep the fish off it, meanwhile I'm skunked. Well what do I know.
LOL-- no kidding. My wife is a fish catching machine and according to me, she fishes everything too fast, too slow, too shallow, too deep, etc., or she's flat-out not paying attention. Maybe I'm the one fishing everything wrong.
That’s funny. I was actually catching fish on it last night while cranking it back after letting it sit.
Quit fishing.
@@Neji90 Nah bro. She out fishes me on my bad days. I out fish you all days.lol.
@@rhodesianhunter9360 lol
The Ned’s are also good for walleye I’ve found. Caught some tanks with em
I once Tx rigged Z man's little elastac crawfish and tied it on 4 lb line and used a split shot sinker,, that was on my Dock runner,, that's a 3'6" micro lite guys and caught 16 1-2 lb largemouth and #17 took my bait lol
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I tried them weightless Texas rigged and instead of it going straight to bottom it goes side to side and bass hammered it hard so that’s how I fish them. Don’t know if anybody else has tried it like that but it works good
Do you set the hook a little harder if you go weedless
Not really. It's still a fine wire hook, so you only need to come tight on the reel to properly set the hook.
2 days in a row to be the ONLY person around to catch anything......10 Flounder in 2 days, and they're only biting the Z Man TRD Ned Rig!!! Tight lines!
The simplest answer is often the best response, such as the Ned Rig. You cannot deny it's ability to put fish in the boat. Unfortunately the technique is equally boring as it is effective. Zman should incorporate sum rigging points on baits such molding hook points or subtle dots in a neutral color.
I find it doesn't stand up if I use a 1/0 jighead with the finesse trd, even after soaking it for hours
Use a Texas Rig. I use a size one or two worm hook. It will stand up
ive caught crappie, pike, smb, lmb, white bass, rockbass, channel cats and some mondo gills on the ned in just one day. if i dont feel like challenging my self for a fish to bite i’ll throw the ned
Have you ever tried Z man products?
WHAT LINE IS BEST TO USE MONO FLORO BRAID COPOLYMER
Depends what kind of fishing youre doing and type of pole. I typically run braid on the reel and a floro leader.. Some say you should put a mono backing on bigger reels but i think that was for the days when braid was crazy expensive. I think thats nullifying one of braids best properties. You can put a lot of line on even a small reel. Also it cuts through alot of soft cover pretty well. Floro is just clearer and stiff compared to mono. However you really need to practice, test, and pay attention to your knot tying with these types of line. Special knots need to be used. If you get that down its great!