I refuse to believe that there’s been only two genocides in this campaign so far….. this is Puffin we are talking about the number should be so much higher
I would complain that blowing up the largest centre of commerce and politics in the galaxy would be unrealistic, but the Galactic Empire and forward planning have never been seen in the same room at the same time
@@Minumer I actually had this happen one time. We kinda got our assess kicked. Partly because of the evil player's power up, party because my character was poorly built, and partly because one of my teammates decided to play dead but didn't actually take advantage of it.
2:51 You know, there are ways to tempt a character content with everything in their life towards the Dark Side. Take the squirrel girl, she has a adequate amount of friends and adventures, so you can't tempt her with anything. Then try to scare her into joining the dark side. Remember why Anakin fell to the dark side? Because he saw visions of Padmes death, and Palpatine tempted Anakin with the power to cheat death. Go for a similar route, either send visions to the squirrel girl about the impending doom of her friends and have the dark side tempt her with the power to subert it, or have the dark side claim that it had visions of her friends dying a gruesome death. Threaten the upend of her status quo that she is so satisfied with, and sell the dark side as a solution to keep the status quo.
Another option is to claim her adventuring days will be over and she will end up married to a slob with a minimum wage job unless of course she joins the dark side. She have 2 motivations: her friends and her love for adventure. Threaten her friends is the easiest option but it is also the predictable one. It has been done before as you said. Threatening her with a boring job at Burger Darth and a terrible marriage is as effective and more interesting.
Minus the 2 other paragraphs, a character being tempted by a darked power by their wildest desires was Samwise Gamgee in lord of the rings, the ring of power tried to tempt him with the idea of turning all of mordor into a garden and he was just like "How would i tend to it?" And the ring was like "Uuuuuuuuuh." I love it.
@@loke6664 Did you know, the dark side can see the future and i see that Padme, I mean your friends, will die soon unless you join the dark side and take the power to save them.
@@BobMcBobJr I dunno, I don't like sand. No one would be stupid enough to go for that without a lot of fore shadowing first so Ben would have had to set that up for several sessions before and the player was a temp. In all honestly, there are few players you can trick into going evil without a good setup first unless they already start out bad. Also, those players that easily would go for it isn't very fun to tempt either, the challenge is to tempt the more morally upstanding and that always take a long and carefully arranged scheme to work. The prequels really failed there with Anakin. While he do flip and kills the sand people you still get the impression that he goes 180 all of the blue and murders all the Jedi kids pretty much for no reason. Lucas should have set that up during the entire second movie and maybe even hinted at it in the first. You can't expect any players to be so easily seduced by the dark side. Maybe if you set them up with Jar-Jar and annoys them to turn evil but they might just as well quit the campaign for that.
7:34 as a hard-core Star Wars fan I feel obligated to point out that in The Empire Strikes Back Vader at one point tells some people to calculate every possible hyperspace destination along the rebel ships last know locations. So it is possible that Luke could have used a combination of that and The Force to track the players. Hilarious video too, thank you.
@thirty forty Also good for setting up traps if you can predict where they are going, like the police do with spike strips. Since they have the Death Star, though, I imagine the Empire's "trap" would be blowing up the predicted destination.
Just want to point out that blowing up Alderaan ended up being one of single worst things the Empire did that led to their downfall. Most of the galaxy saw it as sensless violence at best or an all out attack against their own at worst. (The planet had several Empire Loyalists on it and was seen working with the Empire for decades.) Planets began to really distrust the Empire after this event and Rebels were able to use to this as a rally cry to get more planets on their side which worked well for them in the end. Though they went though some hardships, the Rebels became much stronger after this event. I can only imagine how bad it would be for the Empire if they destroyed Corusant. That is a major planet of trade and home to several Empire Loyalists. If the Empire destroyed it, no one... NOT ONE PLANET. Would feel safe with the Empire and actively would start to work against them. One of the biggest things the Empire had going for them was the promise of prosperity to the galaxy. You just wiped out any idea of that being the case here. The Empire would crumble from within. In the end, the fall of the Empire would still happen making the timeline reconverge in a way. Just way more lives lost than in the original timeline.
alternatively, it could be seen as the ultimate "no one is above punishment" move for thorough intimidation(do you want your planet to be next?) if spun correctly. I mean it would probably still fail but it's an option
Considering how insidious propaganda can be at twisting the masses' perceptions in our own world, I can't imagine the Imperials wouldn't be able to match it.
I mean in this universe the rebels have been wiped out, and the emperor is sitting on the throne securely with evil Luke Skywalker as his right hand man. Considering his unstable mind which was helped along with his use of the dark side, its not inconcievalbe that he went mad with power and just death stars anyone.
(CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISM TRUST ME) For me, his humor has really fallen off, the kind of over exposure if him, and watching more nuanced and well thought of videos like emplemon and Jacob Geller where the story always wraps back around to the point wich is the subject matter of tbe storry, and not a story being the point, lacking deeper meaning, wich is most dnd session except for Fools Gold by dingo doodle, wich has far superior animation, not to dunk on puffin, he started out literally knowing nothing, wich is hilarious, but Dingos story just has such a nuanced deep under tone with continuous over arking themes of losing ones self without support groups or finding ones self once long gone by sheer time, and so on and so forth, Ben does have a story like that in the curse of strawd but its very impersonal and he plays it out almost clinically lacking alot of that over arking nuance and drama, in the end well SPOILERS its very unsatisfying how they literally chose a old vampire, wich hated strawd and wanted his power and was very manipulative, WICH I COULD SEE WAS A BAD IDEA FROM A MILE AWAY. And they let it happen, wich just grinds my gears, very unsatisfying. Because i loved the storu and the characters were so awesome and i wanted a satisfying conclusion. SPOILERS OVER What im saying is, is hes not eloquent in any fashion regarding his story telling or animating capability, his comedy is flat and he has poor timing, sometimes lingering of scenes for 2 or 3 moments to long, making it arduous WHEN HE JUST KEEPS DOING IT, over and over and over, im quite spoiled with all these master of their craft that i watch, but bens just been the same minus his animation wich HAS REALLY GROWN, but hes like a late night host trying to crack jokes into a camera, his style of comedy is ment for the table, and dnd groups, not online fast paced hit them in the head comedy, making him seem dry and drab, its a shame he hasnt changed in that regard or tried to, at leats from what i can see, it disappoints me that i see him as second rate, a b list youtuber, technically z list but i literally watch Rusty Cage SO I DONT CARE, my point is i dont want to see him fizzle out and die, i remeber one day when i went on youtube in 2017 or 16 and saw AntVenom, THE ANTVENOM, with 2,000 views, it was heart breaking, and a wiplash reality check, hes back on top now so i know even if ben dosnt change he'll be fine, come backs and all, but i dont wanna see him survive, I WANNA SEE HIM THRIVE, if you read this ben, or maybe im f#cking mistaken you for another youtuber who does dnd, but i dont think so though Ben, please improve your comedy writing, and pacing, its not easy its not simple, but thats my constructive criticism, i care about u ben, i subsisted on your curse of strawd campaign as it came out, i remeber when it ended already missing it, and i knew i just had one of the best times of my life, Me my best friend and family living happily as i watched you, you were the highlight of my day for what felt like half a year, and it was awesome, im a harsh critic because i love what you make, and i wanna be just as excited as when u came out with each episode of curse of stroud IDK HOW TO SPELL HIS NAME, simply dont over think it, good luck mate, may the force be with you, always.
Usually when a plot diverges to a different timeline. It ends by correcting the point of divergence, thus restoring the correct timeline. If this happens would you consider the genocide counter set back to zero as the acts of the party would be undone? Or would it skyrocket because correcting the timeline would in effect by destroying an entire universe.
If they destroy the entire universe in one go, is it a single genocide? Does each planet count as a new genocide? Every race of people? Inquiring minds NEED to know.
And that's to say nothing of most of the central government. Like, at best this would lead to widespread mismanagement that would destroy the government within a few years, I don't care how authoritarian they are. They're going to have warlords making power grabs pretty much immediately, from either nativist movements or Imperials making fiefdoms. At that point the entire setting is going to light itself on fire.
It actually is kinda funny how confused Palpatine was, considering he’s so greedy he probably doesn’t think having an adequate amount of what he wants is possible
"What do you mean I can have only one planet destroying super weapon? Start building a second death star right away! And a death planet! And hundreds of mini death stars!"
0:55 funnily enough, there are Sith who would go around collecting Sith Spirits to empower themselves, using a power called Force Walking to either pacify or dominate the Spirits, hence they were known as Force Walkers. Short term, you get a lot of power. Long term, you literally have a bunch of Sith Ghosts arguing in your head, and either directly try and kill you or indirectly kill you because the amount of power would become too much for you to wield. Hence it's usually safe to stop after taking on 1 Spirit, otherwise a lot of hoops need to be jumped to real in the additional Spirits and not end up dying to power overload.
Blowing up Coruscant seems abit odd since that was Palps and the Empire Home Base from what i understood, plus it had some Sith ruins here and there under some landmarks. Not to mention it was a center for alot of trade and political power but thats an interesting event, wich can only make me think theres gonna be other Death Stars flying around, so if there are Rebels they cant find out in wich one has the Emperor in it.
@Inquisitor Thomas You know what with the fact that the Dark Side can turn you into a murderous psychopath if delved into to much, combined with Dementia, it would make alot of sense and explain Palps actions. This game might end with Darth Luke being the BBEG and Palp slowy dieing.
Odd nothing, that’s balls to the wall stupid. “I’m going to blow up our logistical nexus, our largest recruitment center, the place where all our upper echelons are trained, and the commercial center of our entire empire.” Like I’m not even a big Star Wars guy, but that’s the empire deciding that they’re going to shoot themselves in the head for no good reason
I was in a West Marches star wars setting and someone was playing a force sensitive person that Palpatine reached out through a dream as well. It was roasted rather thoroughly.
@@Tempest2005 that's one I haven't heard of. Personally, I'm most active on the westmarch "Beyond the Core" but that's because the previous westmarch I was in imploded.
Imagining Ian McDiarmid doing a "You seem like a really kewl and really hip person" with finger guns has actually murdered me. I am murdered. Ben is a murderer.
Well, who HASN'T committed a little genocide here and there over the course of their tabletop experience? You must be really new to tabletop rpgs if you've never directly or indirectly wiped out an entire town, city, nation, species, or planet before. The important thing to remember is that life goes on and i'm sure nobody will miss those people or ask too many questions.
Uh, I don't know what you heard but it is all lies. Besides, when the GM let you take over a plane with a nuke onboard (to save Berlin or something like that) and he is from Stockholm and a super local patriot there is only way any player could have gone. And the London zombie incident was not our fault, how could we have known the artifact was cursed? Or that the summon Cthugha spell would blow up Reykavik? or... you get the picture. But these players are moving pretty fast though.
@@JagmasterGeneral12374 Goblins doesn't really count, unless if your character is a goblin too. Morally they are just XP and easily killed. I am not sure how you could kill 1000 with a single fireball unless they are locked in a huge building that catch fires easily though, the blast radius of fireball isn't really large enough to hit more then a dozen but players can be pretty inventive. My players accidentally burned down a third of Westgate (FR) when the wizard panicked and threw a fireball inside an inn. It killed about a 100 people though so mass murder but no genocide and most of those were home sleeping at night when a fireball hit "The buccaneer"s rum barrels and bar and the fire spread quickly in poorer area of town.
In a current Star Wars game I’m part of, my character got a sample of the Blue Shadow Virus. Seeing as how he’s also an amoral assassin droid, there is definitely a possibility of genocide in the future
"It's great that you've self-actualized at your age" - LOL, everything about Palpatine's reaction to her "adequate number of friends and adventure" comment was gold XD
Coruscant is causing too much trouble and so the Empire decided to annihilate it ? Small problem, that is where Palpatine's Imperial Palace is, alongside his collection of Sith artifacts, experiments and his favorite opera house. Its kind of a symbol of Imperial society too, so its not a planet you should destroy.
Ehh, I mean, most of that stuff he can just export ahead of time. When you have the industrial capacity to build moon-sized space stations, moving an Opera house or a palace is not the most impossible thing. Symbol of society, yes. Galaxy going to fall apart without it? no.
Palpatine: Okay gentleman, ever since we’ve come to power our annual income has been on the decline. We’ve tried everything: we’ve ramped up executions, we’ve terror bombed several fringe world, and we’ve even blown up Alderaan, but still every year we still get less money from Taxes. Random Moff: Maybe it’s because there are less people paying their taxes my lord. Palpatine: Tax Evasion? The bastards! Moff: No my lord, I mean you’ve killed trillions… Palpatine: Vader set the Death Star’s course to Coruscant! We’ll put the fear of god in the heart of every tax evader. Random Moff: But my lord Coruscant is the capital… Palpatine: The only person who is above the law is me and Vader damn it!!!
My one experience with playing the star wars tabletop we were using a ruleset where everything was D6 and I said something in character that seemed a bit evil one too many times so the DM just put a giant ass pile of red dice in the middle of the table and told me "you can use as many as you want, as often as you want. You have 2 of them but grab more whenever you want." Turns out ID GAINED DARKSIDE POINTS and grabbing dice would inherently gain me more and if I grabbed too many or used them too often he was just going to take my sheet and have my character.
Puffin I want to give you a huge HUGE thank you. I downloaded your curse of Strahd and call of Cthulhu videos for my deployment to the black sea. They made for good stories to help me sleep, and kept me sane. You're the best!
I like to imagine that we are getting almost exact descriptions of how the campaign goes, like when the senator or whatever is talking to them and has the horribly on-the-nose daughter scene that that is almost verbatim from the actual session
I have no idea how DnD/Pathfinder can be so fast paced! I play a german version of it (TL;DR: far more rules to handle basicially everything, but also FAR more worldbuilding and character progression) and we would need YEARS to finish what oyu just described. We are currently on our 12th session since we got our latest quest. And we reached the city in question at the end of it. In the mean time we found a boy, gave the boy to the church, found out the church wanted to burn him (evil magic and stuff) saved the boy by hiring professionals, runnign away from the church and hiding while still on our way into the big city, fighting a demonic summoner, found out the church only used us to lure him out... And that was the EXTREMELY SHORT VERSION. All the character stuff that ppl did and all the talks we had... How long was this voyage from our guestgiver to that town? About 200 kilometres. Maybe 300 if we take our detour into consideration.
Update: we left said city EIGHT MONTHS LATER (2 sessions a 3-4 hours a week) because every inch of that city has something interesting... and you need food and income and.... :D just thought I'd let you know... that part of the quest took us 8 months (original quest: go there, find object, come back; final quest: get sidetrackt with a random npc boy, nearly start a holy war because the church wanted to burn him (dark magic), fled from the church, defeat the mastermind with the help of the church... and finally arrived at the city... and then the real rollercoaster began :D )
i love your animated stories, its so quirky and it definitely has its own charm. i hope you make and share more stories. i believe you have a gift, and it would be unfair to the world if you kept that gift for yourself
The best part about being a Master of Ceremonies for tabletop role-playing games is literally throwing death at your players and watching them turn it into a tea party
Puffin is back!! I really dont care what medium you use to tell stories, all of your videos are amazing! The cameos in other videos are cool but your stories are the best! Hopefully we hear more in the future!
You know, other than The Last Jedi, Rogue One also made a reference to the Empire being able to track through hyperspace. While they were looking for where the Death Star plans were, they mentioned that among the files as one of the Empire's projects.
This content is amazing! Keep it up! I too have been playing a Star Wars D&D campaign with my kids. They recently were shot down in crashland on the planet dagobah. It was hilarious because they kept saying this is Yoda song but our campaign is during the clone Wars era so it's not his home yet. After that mission my children try to convince Master Yoda of how great dagobah is and how he needs to move there when he retires from being a Jedi. Too bad this wasn't Canon in the movies.
Ben really did the “Yo, the dark side is pretty chill. Maybe you could, join it or something.” Meme
Shoulda mentioned the cookies.
but it's also the most addictive drug in the universe
Darkside and Scouts have known the secrets about members and cookies. Would you like to buy a box of Jawa Crunch or Sullustian Strawberry?
Join the Dark Side. We have cookies.
@@rallyfeind I'll take some Jawa Crunch cookies, please. I hear they're made with real Jawas.
I refuse to believe that there’s been only two genocides in this campaign so far….. this is Puffin we are talking about the number should be so much higher
I would guess a lot of them were rolled back when the timeline shift occurred, resetting the counter to zero temporarily.
*Very temporarily.*
Those are rookie numbers
@@1Ring42 now I want to see Graystillplays play tabletop
@@falxblade1352 I don't think that would end well for anyone...potentially amusing, but a disaster waiting to happen
@@AzraelThanatos that is literally the point. He is IRL Chaotic Neutral
Did Ben have Emperor Palpatine just pull a "Hello, fellow kids" to recruit someone?
on brand to be honest! For both Ben and Palpatine
More like a Cartman from South Park, "Being a Sith Lord is pretty Kewl...."
I wouldn't be surprised if he ever tried that. XD
@@joshuacr that’s what I was thinking
I would complain that blowing up the largest centre of commerce and politics in the galaxy would be unrealistic, but the Galactic Empire and forward planning have never been seen in the same room at the same time
Honestly this is totally something I could see Robot Chicken Palpatine doing.
The Republic might have been a mess and lead to the Jedi looking bad/corrupt
But the Empire has no logic in how they act
Honestly in the canon and legends everyone kind of agrees that it's a stupid idea to try and get rid of it
That makes it sound like they're the same person.
Coruscant is nothing but city. Maybe the Empire just got sick of constantly importing food and resources.
BBEG: Turn to the dark side, and you will be stronger than you can possibly imagine!
Me: I dunno, wouldn't that break the party balance?
That's when the DM makes the party fight you, instead!
@@Minumer I actually had this happen one time. We kinda got our assess kicked. Partly because of the evil player's power up, party because my character was poorly built, and partly because one of my teammates decided to play dead but didn't actually take advantage of it.
@@Minumer Happened to me in a Call of Cthulhu game at a convention. My character ended up being the final boss.
Anime: It's already broken.
@@l0stndamned Sweet ~
2:51 You know, there are ways to tempt a character content with everything in their life towards the Dark Side. Take the squirrel girl, she has a adequate amount of friends and adventures, so you can't tempt her with anything. Then try to scare her into joining the dark side.
Remember why Anakin fell to the dark side? Because he saw visions of Padmes death, and Palpatine tempted Anakin with the power to cheat death. Go for a similar route, either send visions to the squirrel girl about the impending doom of her friends and have the dark side tempt her with the power to subert it, or have the dark side claim that it had visions of her friends dying a gruesome death.
Threaten the upend of her status quo that she is so satisfied with, and sell the dark side as a solution to keep the status quo.
Another option is to claim her adventuring days will be over and she will end up married to a slob with a minimum wage job unless of course she joins the dark side.
She have 2 motivations: her friends and her love for adventure. Threaten her friends is the easiest option but it is also the predictable one. It has been done before as you said.
Threatening her with a boring job at Burger Darth and a terrible marriage is as effective and more interesting.
Minus the 2 other paragraphs, a character being tempted by a darked power by their wildest desires was Samwise Gamgee in lord of the rings, the ring of power tried to tempt him with the idea of turning all of mordor into a garden and he was just like "How would i tend to it?" And the ring was like "Uuuuuuuuuh." I love it.
@@loke6664 Did you know, the dark side can see the future and i see that Padme, I mean your friends, will die soon unless you join the dark side and take the power to save them.
@@BobMcBobJr I dunno, I don't like sand.
No one would be stupid enough to go for that without a lot of fore shadowing first so Ben would have had to set that up for several sessions before and the player was a temp.
In all honestly, there are few players you can trick into going evil without a good setup first unless they already start out bad. Also, those players that easily would go for it isn't very fun to tempt either, the challenge is to tempt the more morally upstanding and that always take a long and carefully arranged scheme to work.
The prequels really failed there with Anakin. While he do flip and kills the sand people you still get the impression that he goes 180 all of the blue and murders all the Jedi kids pretty much for no reason.
Lucas should have set that up during the entire second movie and maybe even hinted at it in the first.
You can't expect any players to be so easily seduced by the dark side. Maybe if you set them up with Jar-Jar and annoys them to turn evil but they might just as well quit the campaign for that.
are you okay
I feel obligated to like and comment to encourage more “story time with Ben” videos.
I concur. Consider your video engagement increased
I concur as well.
isn't that...all of his videos?
I mean I want more of them too so, fair
Story time with Ben is best time. Also best Ben.
@@CSDragon nah, sometimes he does game reviews and more long form stuffs.
"I have an adequate number of friends and adventures" me an Palpatine had the same reaction xD
They have just no idea what to do with a person who's just.. OK. Contentment is a condition they have no plan for. Frikkin gold.
@@morganrobinson8042 perhaps the player and GM could have some kind of discussion about what the character wants...
7:34 as a hard-core Star Wars fan I feel obligated to point out that in The Empire Strikes Back Vader at one point tells some people to calculate every possible hyperspace destination along the rebel ships last know locations. So it is possible that Luke could have used a combination of that and The Force to track the players. Hilarious video too, thank you.
@thirty forty
Also good for setting up traps if you can predict where they are going, like the police do with spike strips.
Since they have the Death Star, though, I imagine the Empire's "trap" would be blowing up the predicted destination.
It makes sense, there are a limited number of destinations and "guessing" with the Force improves the odds considerably.
There's also the device things they had in Rebels that let them track ships in hyperspace, though they only used in once
@@joselynvifquain9406 It was just a normal tracking device just like how it was a normal tracking device in this campaign.
@@nathanielreik6617 No, in rebels it was specifically a fancy new invention for creating plot™ that only got one use
Just want to point out that blowing up Alderaan ended up being one of single worst things the Empire did that led to their downfall. Most of the galaxy saw it as sensless violence at best or an all out attack against their own at worst. (The planet had several Empire Loyalists on it and was seen working with the Empire for decades.) Planets began to really distrust the Empire after this event and Rebels were able to use to this as a rally cry to get more planets on their side which worked well for them in the end. Though they went though some hardships, the Rebels became much stronger after this event. I can only imagine how bad it would be for the Empire if they destroyed Corusant. That is a major planet of trade and home to several Empire Loyalists. If the Empire destroyed it, no one... NOT ONE PLANET. Would feel safe with the Empire and actively would start to work against them. One of the biggest things the Empire had going for them was the promise of prosperity to the galaxy. You just wiped out any idea of that being the case here. The Empire would crumble from within. In the end, the fall of the Empire would still happen making the timeline reconverge in a way. Just way more lives lost than in the original timeline.
alternatively, it could be seen as the ultimate "no one is above punishment" move for thorough intimidation(do you want your planet to be next?) if spun correctly. I mean it would probably still fail but it's an option
@@jondw you wouldn’t burn down your store after the first successful day, would you?
This time, Palpatine has a working Death Star.
Considering how insidious propaganda can be at twisting the masses' perceptions in our own world, I can't imagine the Imperials wouldn't be able to match it.
I mean in this universe the rebels have been wiped out, and the emperor is sitting on the throne securely with evil Luke Skywalker as his right hand man. Considering his unstable mind which was helped along with his use of the dark side, its not inconcievalbe that he went mad with power and just death stars anyone.
Dear lord did I missed this.
Also the emperor's bit was hilarious
(CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISM TRUST ME) For me, his humor has really fallen off, the kind of over exposure if him, and watching more nuanced and well thought of videos like emplemon and Jacob Geller where the story always wraps back around to the point wich is the subject matter of tbe storry, and not a story being the point, lacking deeper meaning, wich is most dnd session except for Fools Gold by dingo doodle, wich has far superior animation, not to dunk on puffin, he started out literally knowing nothing, wich is hilarious, but Dingos story just has such a nuanced deep under tone with continuous over arking themes of losing ones self without support groups or finding ones self once long gone by sheer time, and so on and so forth, Ben does have a story like that in the curse of strawd but its very impersonal and he plays it out almost clinically lacking alot of that over arking nuance and drama, in the end well
SPOILERS
its very unsatisfying how they literally chose a old vampire, wich hated strawd and wanted his power and was very manipulative, WICH I COULD SEE WAS A BAD IDEA FROM A MILE AWAY. And they let it happen, wich just grinds my gears, very unsatisfying. Because i loved the storu and the characters were so awesome and i wanted a satisfying conclusion.
SPOILERS OVER
What im saying is, is hes not eloquent in any fashion regarding his story telling or animating capability, his comedy is flat and he has poor timing, sometimes lingering of scenes for 2 or 3 moments to long, making it arduous WHEN HE JUST KEEPS DOING IT, over and over and over, im quite spoiled with all these master of their craft that i watch, but bens just been the same minus his animation wich HAS REALLY GROWN, but hes like a late night host trying to crack jokes into a camera, his style of comedy is ment for the table, and dnd groups, not online fast paced hit them in the head comedy, making him seem dry and drab, its a shame he hasnt changed in that regard or tried to, at leats from what i can see, it disappoints me that i see him as second rate, a b list youtuber, technically z list but i literally watch Rusty Cage SO I DONT CARE, my point is i dont want to see him fizzle out and die, i remeber one day when i went on youtube in 2017 or 16 and saw AntVenom, THE ANTVENOM, with 2,000 views, it was heart breaking, and a wiplash reality check, hes back on top now so i know even if ben dosnt change he'll be fine, come backs and all, but i dont wanna see him survive, I WANNA SEE HIM THRIVE, if you read this ben, or maybe im f#cking mistaken you for another youtuber who does dnd, but i dont think so though Ben, please improve your comedy writing, and pacing, its not easy its not simple, but thats my constructive criticism, i care about u ben, i subsisted on your curse of strawd campaign as it came out, i remeber when it ended already missing it, and i knew i just had one of the best times of my life, Me my best friend and family living happily as i watched you, you were the highlight of my day for what felt like half a year, and it was awesome, im a harsh critic because i love what you make, and i wanna be just as excited as when u came out with each episode of curse of stroud IDK HOW TO SPELL HIS NAME, simply dont over think it, good luck mate, may the force be with you, always.
@@merlenclownshuffles maybe leave an actual comment instead of tagging onto an unrelated post
Usually when a plot diverges to a different timeline. It ends by correcting the point of divergence, thus restoring the correct timeline.
If this happens would you consider the genocide counter set back to zero as the acts of the party would be undone?
Or would it skyrocket because correcting the timeline would in effect by destroying an entire universe.
If they destroy the entire universe in one go, is it a single genocide? Does each planet count as a new genocide? Every race of people? Inquiring minds NEED to know.
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Depends how you view it? If you view every living lifeform as a group then you could call that a single genocide
You simply mean a time loop?
nah, it would be a +1 for the genocide counter, since they would genocide a whole innocent timeline
3:50
Random Imperial Moff: Should we tell the Emperor that Coursant is his capital and the largest source of tax income?
Lack of faith in the Emperor's grand plan has been detected.
And that's to say nothing of most of the central government. Like, at best this would lead to widespread mismanagement that would destroy the government within a few years, I don't care how authoritarian they are. They're going to have warlords making power grabs pretty much immediately, from either nativist movements or Imperials making fiefdoms.
At that point the entire setting is going to light itself on fire.
"Well, the solution is simple... DESTROY THE ENTURE PLANET!!"
Third Random Imperial Moff: well i'm not doing it, jerry still zaps people after last time
It actually is kinda funny how confused Palpatine was, considering he’s so greedy he probably doesn’t think having an adequate amount of what he wants is possible
"What do you mean I can have only one planet destroying super weapon? Start building a second death star right away! And a death planet! And hundreds of mini death stars!"
I too feel obligated to like and comment to encourage more “story time with Ben” videos it's not an obligation ... it's a calling!
0:55 funnily enough, there are Sith who would go around collecting Sith Spirits to empower themselves, using a power called Force Walking to either pacify or dominate the Spirits, hence they were known as Force Walkers. Short term, you get a lot of power. Long term, you literally have a bunch of Sith Ghosts arguing in your head, and either directly try and kill you or indirectly kill you because the amount of power would become too much for you to wield. Hence it's usually safe to stop after taking on 1 Spirit, otherwise a lot of hoops need to be jumped to real in the additional Spirits and not end up dying to power overload.
Ah, good ol' Darth Nox.
@@gazelle_diamond9768 *or Darth Imperious.
@@darthskarr8975 True, that was a really cool detail, that your alignment changed your final name.
Happy Oculus sounds.
So, how do you explain the Sith I quisitor in SWToR? XD
Blowing up Coruscant seems abit odd since that was Palps and the Empire Home Base from what i understood, plus it had some Sith ruins here and there under some landmarks.
Not to mention it was a center for alot of trade and political power but thats an interesting event, wich can only make me think theres gonna be other Death Stars flying around, so if there are Rebels they cant find out in wich one has the Emperor in it.
Yeah, it kinda has the same vibe as Russia deciding to nuke Moscow or St. Petersburg.
@@starshade7826 Palpatine was defeat by an enemy more powerful than any Jedi, dementia.
@Inquisitor Thomas You know what with the fact that the Dark Side can turn you into a murderous psychopath if delved into to much, combined with Dementia, it would make alot of sense and explain Palps actions.
This game might end with Darth Luke being the BBEG and Palp slowy dieing.
Odd nothing, that’s balls to the wall stupid. “I’m going to blow up our logistical nexus, our largest recruitment center, the place where all our upper echelons are trained, and the commercial center of our entire empire.” Like I’m not even a big Star Wars guy, but that’s the empire deciding that they’re going to shoot themselves in the head for no good reason
It was also the home of the Royal Imperial Academy, where all of his admirals come from.
I was in a West Marches star wars setting and someone was playing a force sensitive person that Palpatine reached out through a dream as well. It was roasted rather thoroughly.
Age of unrest?
@@JosephSmith-lm4ri Sector Force Lantillies.
@@Tempest2005 that's one I haven't heard of. Personally, I'm most active on the westmarch "Beyond the Core" but that's because the previous westmarch I was in imploded.
I need more of these campaigns man they’re amazing strahd was fantastic
Imagining Ian McDiarmid doing a "You seem like a really kewl and really hip person" with finger guns has actually murdered me. I am murdered. Ben is a murderer.
So... Robot Chicken Palpatine? X)
Well, who HASN'T committed a little genocide here and there over the course of their tabletop experience? You must be really new to tabletop rpgs if you've never directly or indirectly wiped out an entire town, city, nation, species, or planet before. The important thing to remember is that life goes on and i'm sure nobody will miss those people or ask too many questions.
Uh, I don't know what you heard but it is all lies. Besides, when the GM let you take over a plane with a nuke onboard (to save Berlin or something like that) and he is from Stockholm and a super local patriot there is only way any player could have gone. And the London zombie incident was not our fault, how could we have known the artifact was cursed? Or that the summon Cthugha spell would blow up Reykavik? or... you get the picture.
But these players are moving pretty fast though.
The first time I casted fireball I killed 1000 goblins
@@JagmasterGeneral12374 Goblins doesn't really count, unless if your character is a goblin too. Morally they are just XP and easily killed.
I am not sure how you could kill 1000 with a single fireball unless they are locked in a huge building that catch fires easily though, the blast radius of fireball isn't really large enough to hit more then a dozen but players can be pretty inventive.
My players accidentally burned down a third of Westgate (FR) when the wizard panicked and threw a fireball inside an inn. It killed about a 100 people though so mass murder but no genocide and most of those were home sleeping at night when a fireball hit "The buccaneer"s rum barrels and bar and the fire spread quickly in poorer area of town.
@@loke6664 they were in a Vietnam tunnel system the DM ruled it took out all the oxygen out of the tunnel. I was a orc chief at the time
In a current Star Wars game I’m part of, my character got a sample of the Blue Shadow Virus. Seeing as how he’s also an amoral assassin droid, there is definitely a possibility of genocide in the future
"It's great that you've self-actualized at your age" - LOL, everything about Palpatine's reaction to her "adequate number of friends and adventure" comment was gold XD
I hope you'll do another series of longer form videos like you did with Curse of Strahd. That was pretty great.
Much agreed. Animation isnt as important as listening to your funny stories.
I second that
That was epic
@@halfbakedblake I am a new covert to replays. He should do more of those
Ben has returned! Now I need more Call of C'thulu stories. Ooooor that Mouseguard one off you tried steering the others too.
These star wars stories are so entertaining! I never know what to expect!
I'm really happy to see a part 2 to this campaign. Your group seems to be having a blast and the hijinks they get up to are hilarious.
Why do I feel like the genocide counter is going to get big
Should have just built it with 4 or 5 digit capacity to save on refit costs
Coruscant is causing too much trouble and so the Empire decided to annihilate it ? Small problem, that is where Palpatine's Imperial Palace is, alongside his collection of Sith artifacts, experiments and his favorite opera house. Its kind of a symbol of Imperial society too, so its not a planet you should destroy.
Well, that random noble basically said it was too important to be destroyed.
Ehh, I mean, most of that stuff he can just export ahead of time. When you have the industrial capacity to build moon-sized space stations, moving an Opera house or a palace is not the most impossible thing.
Symbol of society, yes. Galaxy going to fall apart without it? no.
Palpatine: Okay gentleman, ever since we’ve come to power our annual income has been on the decline. We’ve tried everything: we’ve ramped up executions, we’ve terror bombed several fringe world, and we’ve even blown up Alderaan, but still every year we still get less money from Taxes.
Random Moff: Maybe it’s because there are less people paying their taxes my lord.
Palpatine: Tax Evasion? The bastards!
Moff: No my lord, I mean you’ve killed trillions…
Palpatine: Vader set the Death Star’s course to Coruscant! We’ll put the fear of god in the heart of every tax evader.
Random Moff: But my lord Coruscant is the capital…
Palpatine: The only person who is above the law is me and Vader damn it!!!
He can just move his stuff
Dictators tend to become completely paranoid once they run out of obvious enemies to kill.
Huh when was the last time puffin popped up in my notifications. Also that genocide counter should be soooooo much higher.
My one experience with playing the star wars tabletop we were using a ruleset where everything was D6 and I said something in character that seemed a bit evil one too many times so the DM just put a giant ass pile of red dice in the middle of the table and told me "you can use as many as you want, as often as you want. You have 2 of them but grab more whenever you want." Turns out ID GAINED DARKSIDE POINTS and grabbing dice would inherently gain me more and if I grabbed too many or used them too often he was just going to take my sheet and have my character.
I love Ben’s videos. Every time he releases one, I end up having an all day marathon! 😂
I feel like every DM just needs a "Genocide Counter" for every campaign they're in.
",,, an adequate number of friends and adventure." 😆
2:30 “Yo duuudes, the Empire’s pretty chill…”
Ashoka, my favorite Star Wars character. Can't wait to hear the rest of this story!
Honestly palps shut have just said "have you ever heard the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise"
"I like to go on adventures with my friends!"
Also: Defies adventure hooks.
Oh nice, new Puffin Forest video! Thanks man! Your videos always brighten up my day!
I gotta catch up on your newest videos, I'd forgotten how much I love these.
I just can’t resist instantly going to watch your videos!
You know, I get a feeling that Ben's players are just trolling him by actively avoiding picking up any of his plot hooks.
Wow i didnt expect a sequal to your other star wars episode
Hopefully part 3 is coming soon, these first 2 episodes were really fun!
The scout droid revealing he worked for Luke and that he was outside is me every session with secrets.
Puffin I want to give you a huge HUGE thank you. I downloaded your curse of Strahd and call of Cthulhu videos for my deployment to the black sea. They made for good stories to help me sleep, and kept me sane. You're the best!
I like to imagine that we are getting almost exact descriptions of how the campaign goes, like when the senator or whatever is talking to them and has the horribly on-the-nose daughter scene that that is almost verbatim from the actual session
Wait, your party made porgs an invasive species on Ahch-To?!?! How spectacular!
I have no idea how DnD/Pathfinder can be so fast paced!
I play a german version of it (TL;DR: far more rules to handle basicially everything, but also FAR more worldbuilding and character progression)
and we would need YEARS to finish what oyu just described.
We are currently on our 12th session since we got our latest quest.
And we reached the city in question at the end of it.
In the mean time we found a boy, gave the boy to the church, found out the church wanted to burn him (evil magic and stuff) saved the boy by hiring professionals, runnign away from the church and hiding while still on our way into the big city, fighting a demonic summoner, found out the church only used us to lure him out...
And that was the EXTREMELY SHORT VERSION. All the character stuff that ppl did and all the talks we had...
How long was this voyage from our guestgiver to that town?
About 200 kilometres. Maybe 300 if we take our detour into consideration.
Update: we left said city EIGHT MONTHS LATER (2 sessions a 3-4 hours a week)
because every inch of that city has something interesting... and you need food and income and.... :D
just thought I'd let you know... that part of the quest took us 8 months (original quest: go there, find object, come back; final quest: get sidetrackt with a random npc boy, nearly start a holy war because the church wanted to burn him (dark magic), fled from the church, defeat the mastermind with the help of the church... and finally arrived at the city... and then the real rollercoaster began :D )
It feels like years since the last time I saw one of these. Great to see another
Thank you for the laughs.
You are wonderfully funny.
6:20 you know, that was at one point considered to be Canon, but they decided that it was too dark for the movie
That moment you bring in an NPC for a bit longer than you meant. Did this to my GM a few times. :)
i love your animated stories, its so quirky and it definitely has its own charm. i hope you make and share more stories. i believe you have a gift, and it would be unfair to the world if you kept that gift for yourself
Lol glad your videos are back, hope you've been well Puffin.
The king is back!
Palpatine could have tried "come to the dark side we have cookies"
Fun video! Enjoying Star Wars tales through the looking glass!
Ah another video to watch pass out to. Don't know why, but your vids are like melatonin to me.
Oh how badly I needed another hit of Puffin Forest videos to my eye stream!
Always a good day when Puffin uploads!
That is one balanced, introspecitve sith apprentice. "an adequate number of friends" what an assessment to make.
My day is made. Thank you Ben
man, the palpi bit was just soooo genious... omg... total piece of art :D
Feeding TH-cam's algorithm.
Keep up your good work, Puffin)
I love your content. Some of my favorites animated stories all on all TH-cam
I miss this! Gives me such a happy smile watching these.
I’m liking this Star Wars story line I hope we get at least one more video!
The best part about being a Master of Ceremonies for tabletop role-playing games is literally throwing death at your players and watching them turn it into a tea party
Thanks for the upload Ben! We missed you!
When I originally saw the genocide counter : oh god ben how many have you killed |after the video : eh not that much
The toying with the Emperor was just amazing.
Puffin is back!! I really dont care what medium you use to tell stories, all of your videos are amazing! The cameos in other videos are cool but your stories are the best! Hopefully we hear more in the future!
I literally wait for you to post. I mean not asking for anything, just thrilled when you do. You are the shit, sir. Thank you!
so great to see one of your gaming stories, definitely one of my missing joys
2:54 - 2:59
I honestly think that if Carrie Fisher was still alive, she would get a good laugh out of this.
Amazing as always!
Recently joined an edge of empire game after being inspired to try a star wars game because of your video.......Cheers dude
Good to hear from you again!
Ooooooo I've missed these
This is amazing thank you for all the stories!
Something I love to see is that there has really been an increase in quality over the years, instead of just a butt ton of crappy videos
After all these years
You know, other than The Last Jedi, Rogue One also made a reference to the Empire being able to track through hyperspace. While they were looking for where the Death Star plans were, they mentioned that among the files as one of the Empire's projects.
Okay, this adventure might be my favorite!
Love the sunglasses.
Yayayyayayay fresh content. You make my day better
to be honest, would love to see this in star wars visions season 2
thank goodness for CC...
i heard you say "lewd squirrel race" 5 times and was like 65% sure that wasn't what you intended me to hear.
Love your stories!
This made my morning!
Always good to find more Puffin(Porg?) Forest!
Omg this video yayyyyy new puffen forest made my day
Would you look at that, a name of a recurring party that you DON’T need to censor
0:59 big Gouda spirit there, 😂😅🥲 miss her
Palpatine should've started with the tragedy of darth plagueis
So good to see you back, Puffin!
Huge fan of these storytime videos
Good luck young Jedi, you’re going to need it.
This is what I subbed for. More please!
Edit: Even the non-animated story times are great, so.... moar please...
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!
(Hi i love your story times)
This content is amazing! Keep it up!
I too have been playing a Star Wars D&D campaign with my kids. They recently were shot down in crashland on the planet dagobah. It was hilarious because they kept saying this is Yoda song but our campaign is during the clone Wars era so it's not his home yet. After that mission my children try to convince Master Yoda of how great dagobah is and how he needs to move there when he retires from being a Jedi. Too bad this wasn't Canon in the movies.