I have the rear Tailfin system and really like it. It is not cheap, but it is well built, easy to use, stable, and holds up well to rough roads. One of the features I especially appreciate is the ease of mounting and dismounting the bags, which always seems to be a struggle for me with bar bags. I have a strong feeling that the bar bag setup will find its way onto my drop-bar gravel bike.
I've tried bikepacking bags and have gone back to mudguards, racks and panniers. I've no issue with gravel wheels or gearing but touring, for me at least, feels more comfortable when both you and your kit is clean and dry.
The outer mesh pouches alone make this a win. Finally a place for dynaplug, sunscreen, chapstick, buff, arm warmers, wrappers and the endless number of quick grab items that are always present during long days on the bike.
I’ve been putting off buying a bar bag system to see the Tailfin offering, on these first looks I’ll definitely be getting one of these. The smaller drop bar bag looks plenty big enough.
Just got the bar bag for a road bike setup. Like all their stuff, it's super high quality, and thoroughly thought out. The clamp unit is marginally heavier than others, but I don't see how that's a serious concern for this type of product. The main clamps and the stabilizer bar can be pivoted independent of each other, letting you adjust the bag as low/ close as possible. This reduces the perceived weight, and reduces rotational torque felt when turning quickly - or at lower speeds. Fancy way of saying the front end handling is way better when the bag weight is moved close to the head tube. All Tailfin stuff is pricy for sure, but if you want the best, bomb proof, investment type gear, this is it.
The bar mount system gives you full access to your drop bar and stem and without wearing thru your brake hoses and headset. You're also getting easy on and off of your bag. That's worth the price premium for me.
I truly like Tailfin products and innovation. Considering the price tag and the fact that it is ''a system'' and making it less versatile in the case of emergency repair (like putting another brand's dry bag), I am unfortunately not ready to unlock the budget. Props to a really thought out system that seems to work very well!
Cool bag. Does anyone know what sleeping bag that is? I use a large Ortlieb handlebar bag and it's impossible to fit my Mountain Equipment sleeping bag inside.
As usual with Tailfin product launches, it seems like an awesome product that ticks pretty much every box - but costs way more than I'm willing to pay.
Love the design but damn that price and weight. Seriously that’s a heavy setup. Thats nearly 2 lbs. I’d like to see it used with some aero bars and whether those mounts are able to be used. €60 in mounts alone. I like the pouch pockets, I can see tent poles in the back for sure. But I also like a food pouch on the front as well. I’m just going to assume an aerobar specific bag will follow next year. Cool idea, but think Rogue Panda will get my money with the a blue Ridge. Nearly a 1lb lighter.
Great. I’ve got a couple of others. This may well displace the Salsa cradle … for one. The marginal dollars and marginal weight will not be noticed when nothing breaks, falls off or gets wet in a storm! 😁
Regardless of the kislux bag or any other factors, I ardently hold that without proper expertise, one would fail to distinguish variations in the sack's appearance or metal parts.
Their prices gave me pause for thought, but once I went for it, it became obvious why it's not cheap. Very cleverly designed and well made and if there is an issue, their aftersales is exceptional. So whilst not cheap, I'd say the gear is good value.
@@JeremyLawrence-imajez I've done things like the Pennine Rally with 40cm bars, some pretty rough bits, some people were riding mountain bikes and rather pleased about it!
One of reasons I run a bar with a flare (Ritchey Beacon, so 36 degree flare 🙂 ) is that when I'm running a bar bag I can still easily get onto the brakes/controls while in the drops.
Of course it depends on terrain. For road, I have gone all the way down to 36mm since I have narrow shoulders, but for gravel, I'm using Pro Discover 44cm 30deg flare. And I sprint way better and more in control on the wider one.
I would use a aerobar/restbar to hang my front luggage (sleepingbag, tent, clothing etc), just mere 200g for some carbon fiber aerobar. Plus a dry bag will do the same trick, cost only $30 or even less. This tailfinn front luggage system is too heavy without the luggage already.
laughs in 300$, like seriously there are a lot of cheap harness mounts already that keeps the bag away from the bar for like 10$, two voile straps + dry bag and you are set. plus that weight, must say that the system is well thought out but it is kinda trying to provide a solution to a problem that does not exist. gorgeous bag tho
Please when you are reviewing a bag I just want to see everything you can fit inside of it. I don't care about manufactured spec litre storage, show me a real world test of its storage.
Closure system for the gravel bag looks very nice. Weight and price seem ridiculous to me (typical for tailfinn). To me, the point of bikepacking bags is a lightweight setup. The gravel bag would be interesting with a simpler/lighter/cheaper attachment style.
I agree -- it seems like people are being convinced to by 4kg of bags to carry 15kg of gear. I get that if one is roaring down a super-rough trail, having everything locked up like Fort Knox is appealing, but I don't see more than 5% of riders doing that kind of bike packing, as opposed to the 95% watching videos of Red Bull Touring. lol
@@ericpmoss yes, and I’m not even sure wether this system is that secure. I could imagine it having some latency in the movement of the bag, resulting in subpar handling. Especially with the larger Mtb version. For me the best solution is a lightly loaded front roll (sleeping bag & clothes), secured with two additional straps, positioned close to the brake levers. I agree with the 4kg bag issue. Most bikepacking equipment seems to become as heavy - if not heavier then old school panniers, as soon as they try to introduce convenient quick release systems. Especially when comparing volume/weight ratios…
This bag is the same as all the rest. Its literally just a more expensive version of any other roll bag. Typical for tailfin. The company that reinvented the rear rack and made it cost 10 times more 🤣
Great don't buy it. I've really enjoyed the ease of moving my tailfin rack from bike to bike. It seems like it does some unique things but it comes at a cost and a weight penalty. This will be worth it for some and not for others.
True. We can see Ortlieb copying some of these ideas like quick rack and also the new thru-axle based quick rack for around 100 euros? So, it's possible to keep things simple and cheaper (aka sane pricing). But I'm not against Tailfin and would buy it if my bike was at least 4-5 grand.
Total overkill and overpriced. I have regular 25 litres double-sided, 100% waterproof bag. Mounted to the handlebar by velcro straps. One ski strap (not necessary but cool for very bumpy downhill) all resting perfectly on a $5 accessories bar screwed downwards 😊 You're welcome.
I have the rear Tailfin system and really like it. It is not cheap, but it is well built, easy to use, stable, and holds up well to rough roads. One of the features I especially appreciate is the ease of mounting and dismounting the bags, which always seems to be a struggle for me with bar bags. I have a strong feeling that the bar bag setup will find its way onto my drop-bar gravel bike.
I've tried bikepacking bags and have gone back to mudguards, racks and panniers. I've no issue with gravel wheels or gearing but touring, for me at least, feels more comfortable when both you and your kit is clean and dry.
The outer mesh pouches alone make this a win. Finally a place for dynaplug, sunscreen, chapstick, buff, arm warmers, wrappers and the endless number of quick grab items that are always present during long days on the bike.
I’ve been putting off buying a bar bag system to see the Tailfin offering, on these first looks I’ll definitely be getting one of these. The smaller drop bar bag looks plenty big enough.
Just got the bar bag for a road bike setup. Like all their stuff, it's super high quality, and thoroughly thought out. The clamp unit is marginally heavier than others, but I don't see how that's a serious concern for this type of product. The main clamps and the stabilizer bar can be pivoted independent of each other, letting you adjust the bag as low/ close as possible. This reduces the perceived weight, and reduces rotational torque felt when turning quickly - or at lower speeds. Fancy way of saying the front end handling is way better when the bag weight is moved close to the head tube. All Tailfin stuff is pricy for sure, but if you want the best, bomb proof, investment type gear, this is it.
18.9L !?! wow I can ditch my tent and just sleep in the handlebar bag
Been doing that for 10 years with sea to summit event large bag
The bar mount system gives you full access to your drop bar and stem and without wearing thru your brake hoses and headset. You're also getting easy on and off of your bag. That's worth the price premium for me.
I truly like Tailfin products and innovation. Considering the price tag and the fact that it is ''a system'' and making it less versatile in the case of emergency repair (like putting another brand's dry bag), I am unfortunately not ready to unlock the budget. Props to a really thought out system that seems to work very well!
I am buying one for sure. Thanks bro
Sweet version of the bar bag! MAybe v2 will shed some weight. Thanks Neil!
Nice video 💙 , on the video the drop bag you have it’s the 12.5L ?
Thanks
No the 9.1. I tested both of the small bags in this video. Plenty big for me.
What about clearance for dynamo light mounted on fork crown ?
Buying it just for that party kazoo purge valve sound. Listen up Tailfin, that's a feature not a bug.
Cool bag. Does anyone know what sleeping bag that is? I use a large Ortlieb handlebar bag and it's impossible to fit my Mountain Equipment sleeping bag inside.
Was that the small or large drop bar bag you tried?
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@@BIKEPACKINGcom Thank you very much
As usual with Tailfin product launches, it seems like an awesome product that ticks pretty much every box - but costs way more than I'm willing to pay.
So cool system. 👍
Nice Shirt!
Can it be fitted on a Jones H Bar?
Cool bag, but who is that shirt from!?!
It's huge!
There is a 3er System like this. The Aeroe handlebar cradle
Dowm side of their bag: single ended.
@@bironbrunelle5186 You don't have to use their bags. You can use your favorite bag
two-ended bag == a tube.
Love the design but damn that price and weight. Seriously that’s a heavy setup. Thats nearly 2 lbs.
I’d like to see it used with some aero bars and whether those mounts are able to be used. €60 in mounts alone.
I like the pouch pockets, I can see tent poles in the back for sure.
But I also like a food pouch on the front as well.
I’m just going to assume an aerobar specific bag will follow next year.
Cool idea, but think Rogue Panda will get my money with the a blue Ridge. Nearly a 1lb lighter.
Great. I’ve got a couple of others. This may well displace the Salsa cradle … for one. The marginal dollars and marginal weight will not be noticed when nothing breaks, falls off or gets wet in a storm! 😁
Regardless of the kislux bag or any other factors, I ardently hold that without proper expertise, one would fail to distinguish variations in the sack's appearance or metal parts.
You could also get a dry bag and two straps for 30 euros
Exactly, probably the cheapest and arguably greatest bikepacking setup, making it accessible to all.
Price starting at $300.--
Tailfin kit is spendy but really well designed and, in my experience, durable.
Their prices gave me pause for thought, but once I went for it, it became obvious why it's not cheap.
Very cleverly designed and well made and if there is an issue, their aftersales is exceptional.
So whilst not cheap, I'd say the gear is good value.
Fark 😮
@@JeremyLawrence-imajezhow is it worth that money? Its made in china under awful conditions. How is it more expensive than made in germany?
@@cooltwittertagthey're made in Taiwan. I don't know where you got the idea that they're made in china from?
🚲🚲🚲🚲👍👍👍👍👍👍
44mm is “narrow” for drop bars? Okay, Goliath. 🤦♂️
*laughs nervously in 40cm drop bars* 😅
For drop bars used in this context, that is the case.
@@JeremyLawrence-imajez I've done things like the Pennine Rally with 40cm bars, some pretty rough bits, some people were riding mountain bikes and rather pleased about it!
One of reasons I run a bar with a flare (Ritchey Beacon, so 36 degree flare 🙂 ) is that when I'm running a bar bag I can still easily get onto the brakes/controls while in the drops.
Of course it depends on terrain. For road, I have gone all the way down to 36mm since I have narrow shoulders, but for gravel, I'm using Pro Discover 44cm 30deg flare. And I sprint way better and more in control on the wider one.
I would use a aerobar/restbar to hang my front luggage (sleepingbag, tent, clothing etc), just mere 200g for some carbon fiber aerobar. Plus a dry bag will do the same trick, cost only $30 or even less.
This tailfinn front luggage system is too heavy without the luggage already.
🤑🤑
laughs in 300$, like seriously there are a lot of cheap harness mounts already that keeps the bag away from the bar for like 10$, two voile straps + dry bag and you are set.
plus that weight, must say that the system is well thought out but it is kinda trying to provide a solution to a problem that does not exist.
gorgeous bag tho
totally agree. as a piece of technology, its marvelous. but as a practical product, i just don't see the reason to buy it.
300 plus sorry no.
Cool design but at more than double the cost and weight of an Apidura bar bag It’s hard to justify (even if it has some extra features).
Excess air, not access
He meant it is access to the excess air...of course.
Please when you are reviewing a bag I just want to see everything you can fit inside of it. I don't care about manufactured spec litre storage, show me a real world test of its storage.
It's nice, it's expensive
Closure system for the gravel bag looks very nice. Weight and price seem ridiculous to me (typical for tailfinn). To me, the point of bikepacking bags is a lightweight setup. The gravel bag would be interesting with a simpler/lighter/cheaper attachment style.
I agree -- it seems like people are being convinced to by 4kg of bags to carry 15kg of gear. I get that if one is roaring down a super-rough trail, having everything locked up like Fort Knox is appealing, but I don't see more than 5% of riders doing that kind of bike packing, as opposed to the 95% watching videos of Red Bull Touring. lol
@@ericpmoss yes, and I’m not even sure wether this system is that secure. I could imagine it having some latency in the movement of the bag, resulting in subpar handling. Especially with the larger Mtb version. For me the best solution is a lightly loaded front roll (sleeping bag & clothes), secured with two additional straps, positioned close to the brake levers.
I agree with the 4kg bag issue. Most bikepacking equipment seems to become as heavy - if not heavier then old school panniers, as soon as they try to introduce convenient quick release systems. Especially when comparing volume/weight ratios…
The greedy bike industry never learn.
300$???? Hahahaha
Not a huge fan of hex screws, seems like theres already a lot of wear on it and eventually will need replacing.
Too expensive. It seems like the panniers are the most reasonable in their lineup. Maybe the top two otherwise too expensive
Too big, too expensive, too hyped…
Too expensive and too heavy
This bag is the same as all the rest. Its literally just a more expensive version of any other roll bag. Typical for tailfin. The company that reinvented the rear rack and made it cost 10 times more 🤣
Great don't buy it. I've really enjoyed the ease of moving my tailfin rack from bike to bike. It seems like it does some unique things but it comes at a cost and a weight penalty. This will be worth it for some and not for others.
True. We can see Ortlieb copying some of these ideas like quick rack and also the new thru-axle based quick rack for around 100 euros? So, it's possible to keep things simple and cheaper (aka sane pricing). But I'm not against Tailfin and would buy it if my bike was at least 4-5 grand.
That’s simply not true. Guess it’s not for you. Neither is spellcheck, apparently
@@alecfotsch3533 it seems to be for people with too much money :)
@@SonnyDarvish yea its a company for people with money that needs getting rid of i think :)
Total overkill and overpriced. I have regular 25 litres double-sided, 100% waterproof bag. Mounted to the handlebar by velcro straps. One ski strap (not necessary but cool for very bumpy downhill) all resting perfectly on a $5 accessories bar screwed downwards 😊 You're welcome.
Something like this? bikepacking.com/plan/diy-handlebar-bags/
Too heavy. Too pricey.