what if I do not neeed a guitar function but backing track and voice processor and loops.. what shall I as a vocalist get then now in 2024?... thanks for advice, there are so many products today.. but I never used one of these. But now I like to add this to my singing to backing tracks and also do looping perfroamcnes with voice and perhaps some drums...
You could use this as a voice only processor. When you use backing tracks you can record changes into the timestamp of the track. Setting harmonies, delays, doubles, whatever you like. There are many different units you can use, but this one, in my experience is the most versatile and customisable. The vocal part of the unit has many different options you can play with. It's kind of endless. Auto tune, modulation, stutter, megaphone, pitch shift. You can even set it to sound like a robot if you want. Choir sounds. Female or male voices. It's got the lot.
@@pro_muso you mean those ae presets? I do not want a processor to cheat and beautify my voice ... is this meant to fake your voice, like AI filters on Instagram kind of??
@@SimplicityForGood well you can use them in that way, but you can dial them in at a percentage. I don’t use auto tune or robot voices. I’m just pointing out the versatility of the unit. I’m essentially saying you have a wide gamut of tools.
G'day Tod. Keep it up mate. It's a slow burn to get traction on YT. I bought a VLX3 a few years ago and your opinion is spot on about the learning curve. Didn't know about BandHelper but its now on my radar. Look forward to seeing you gig live with the VLX3 esp since you said you were enjoying playing so much.
Wow, this video is so well done. I have the VLX3 and yes it does everything you saw it does....though I've never used backing tracks yet. I've also never used Band Helper but I'm going to check it out. Like you, I have all of my lyrics on an app on my ipad and the scrolling, lyric font etc is all set up but when I change songs, I need to go to my VL3 and go to the right preset....not that it takes that long to do because I only have about 50 songs (50 Presets), but I suppose it would be even better with BandHelper. Thank you so much for this video.
Thanks Mate for you informative insight into the voicelive, the learning curve - if you were to hint a rookie on whats the easiest/smoothest way to learn this hardware, apart from thorough studying of the paper manual, what would that be?
Thanks Lordo. It depends on what you want out of it. Are you a guitarist, a guitarist singer? Will you want to use backing tracks or do you prefer to play strictly guitar. What's your purpose?
@@lords-music-school yeah I don’t see why not. But I’m not well versed in lighting commands on midi. Sorry I can’t help. A midi expert would know though. Maybe a Facebook group?
Hey Tod, thx for your reply. I downloaded the manual and found on page 49 that it can control a DAW and show control midi equipment which I assume would be midi lights or other show control midi equipment as well as like you said can be controlled by your ipad. Anyway I have to get one of these first as they are pretty hard to get I read. Been using the VL2 for the past 9/10 years or so and it was a great revelation. Looking forward to getting one of these. As you say this is a revelation for solo/duo/trio acts. I started out with 4-trk cassette backing tracks recorded on a Yamaha MT44D, then midi came along and revolutionised my world but I was always looking for better / more reliable harmonies - then came the VL/2/3/3x yahooo! @@pro_muso Lordy
Thank you for all your amazing videos! I purchased the VL3X after watching your video, its awesome! I downloaded bandhelper as well to drive my BT's in the VL3X. I'm having problems with connecting the two. Do you have any advice that might help? Thanks again! : )
You’re welcome ☺️ I’m glad you are enjoying this great unit. I’ll probably need more info to answer that. What kind of problems in particular are you having?
Thank you, In my "Midi Devices" in BandHelper I set "port" to Network Session 1 & "channel" to 1. Set my VL3X to midi Chanel 1. Out of my laptop I am running usb out to midi in on VL3X. Do I need to set up anything in my "Remote Control" or "Midi Presets"? Also, in my song set up there is "Midi Song Number" is this where I put my song preset # from my VL3X? @@pro_muso
@@Link2theLinks I don't have any midi devices set for what I use under 'midi devices'. All I use are midi presets. I have an individual midi preset for every song because I need to change sounds for them all. Which I assume you do too. So yes, 'midi presets' is where it all happens to run my unit. So make your midi presets, name them, and then add them under the 'song' section for each VL3X preset. I hope that helps.
Why on earth has the VL3X been discontinued??? Can’t find one for less than 2 grand CAD 😔 I can’t even find what TC Helicon are to replace it with. Any clues? Great review, thank you!!
Try here www.ceceres.com.au/tc-helicon-tc-vls-extreme-helicon-voicelive3-extreme-pedal?gclid=CjwKCAjw3ueiBhBmEiwA4BhspLixKIOVvd5mDD1NSCW3U0hGJMHcUA9JyuUX-rGyp8B0RhkHReQP8BoCcyAQAvD_BwE
I’m considering one of these, it does seem to have a lot of answers! … I think my dream rig is Mainstage which seems to have even more answers, but I don’t a Apple laptop right now… Any thoughts on this appreciated!
Ruud Jansen Hey thanks man. First comment on any of my videos. I’m losing motivation to make more because of so few views. I appreciate it. 👍 More than you know.
Great tutorial. You might get more hits if you edit the title to VL3X. That's how most people refer to it. I use the PlayAcoustic currently, but I own the VoiceLive 3 (not the eXtreme version) and I really need to delve in and get up to gig readiness on the VL3 to take advantage of the myriad other options that it offers over the more basic PlayAcoustic. This has given me a little push to get moving on this now that I've got some down time coming up over the holidays.
I wanna use the effects both for singing and guitar, and obviously use backing tracks as well - sometimes the more I could fill in the space with other band players I don't cooperate with, the better, as a one band player for weddings, small concerts, studio recording...
Okay yes, pretty much the same as I use it. I guess if you want to fast track a repertoire I would start with the backing tracks. Learn how to use something like band helper to send midi signals to the VLX3. This way when you bring up a song you will have a backing track ready to go. You might have to play around with the levels a little bit because some songs sound one way in the studio and another way live. This is just trial and error. You can route the system to send three different outputs to your mixer. One for vocals, one for guitar, and the little stereo out for your backing tracks. That way you can mix them on the fly at a gig if any levels are too loud or soft. Other than that just dig in and learn. Another very important feature is button mapping. It is very handy if you want to set up which buttons do what and customise them. I hope that helps :-)
@@pro_muso Thank you for the hints, controlling the signal strength from the extrenal mixer tells me that 1.VLX3 hasn't the feauture of individual control of those 3 elements, 2.Has it but hidden and not easilly accessible 3.It's much faster to do it via physical mixer knobs
@@Recommendable it can output those individually. Which is what you want. It’s not a mixer so you wouldn’t want to try to control them from the unit. It’s great that they have this.
i had one it was good but absolute waste of time to program and you only need one setting = harmony and that you can get in a smaller more portable form factor this band helper did sound interesting tho ...nevver heard of that ....
Hey bud. Yeah if you only need a harmonizer then use a separate one. I use this for so many different things and I find it very programmable. Each to their own though. It's a lot to learn and sometimes that can be too much hassle if you only need it for something simple. Cheers for the comment tho.
@@pro_muso Yeah its good but way too much to lug around pref the boss ve500 just cos of that really but it was good (the vle3) just too much to get my head around programmin...
@@byromtaylor6482 Yeah mate. I lug way too much gear around. Just a bit anal about my setup.I've spent many frustrating hours getting the right programming for the VL3X. Which is why I bought 2 of them. In case one breaks, then I don't lose everything.
@@pro_muso Lights pa guitar deskn etc etc n f cables...man ur preechin to the converted i hear ya an so many pp; dont actually undrstand thatthe [erforming is the easy bit...always makes me laugh that some ppl think they can book yu cheaper if they only want you for a hour ...lol that bit font matter its the set up n pull down ...I often wish I could magic the gear in an out a venue...
Yes absolutely. That's why I always set minimum hours to 3. It's all about the setup. Big hotels are the worst. In loading docks. Up elevators etc. I always tack on a bit more for them. They're normally corporate gigs anyway so the money doesn't really matter.
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Thank you for this video. It’s so helpful. Is it possible to plug mic for flute AND electric piano and do FX separately for both…?
Hey Gary. Yes I don’t see why not. If you are not using vocals or guitar you can plug into those channels and use the effects.
Thanks for your review, Tod. You gave me some ideas for improvement!
Any time!
what if I do not neeed a guitar function but backing track and voice processor and loops.. what shall I as a vocalist get then now in 2024?... thanks for advice, there are so many products today.. but I never used one of these. But now I like to add this to my singing to backing tracks and also do looping perfroamcnes with voice and perhaps some drums...
You could use this as a voice only processor. When you use backing tracks you can record changes into the timestamp of the track. Setting harmonies, delays, doubles, whatever you like. There are many different units you can use, but this one, in my experience is the most versatile and customisable. The vocal part of the unit has many different options you can play with. It's kind of endless. Auto tune, modulation, stutter, megaphone, pitch shift. You can even set it to sound like a robot if you want. Choir sounds. Female or male voices. It's got the lot.
@@pro_muso you mean those ae presets?
I do not want a processor to cheat and beautify my voice ... is this meant to fake your voice, like AI filters on Instagram kind of??
@@SimplicityForGood well you can use them in that way, but you can dial them in at a percentage. I don’t use auto tune or robot voices. I’m just pointing out the versatility of the unit. I’m essentially saying you have a wide gamut of tools.
P@@pro_muso
G'day Tod. Keep it up mate. It's a slow burn to get traction on YT. I bought a VLX3 a few years ago and your opinion is spot on about the learning curve. Didn't know about BandHelper but its now on my radar. Look forward to seeing you gig live with the VLX3 esp since you said you were enjoying playing so much.
Sandy Gallop Hey thanks Sandy. Much appreciated 😊👍 Yeah checkout BandHelper, you’ll never go back.
Wow, this video is so well done. I have the VLX3 and yes it does everything you saw it does....though I've never used backing tracks yet. I've also never used Band Helper but I'm going to check it out. Like you, I have all of my lyrics on an app on my ipad and the scrolling, lyric font etc is all set up but when I change songs, I need to go to my VL3 and go to the right preset....not that it takes that long to do because I only have about 50 songs (50 Presets), but I suppose it would be even better with BandHelper. Thank you so much for this video.
You're welcome. Thanks for the feedback :-)
Thanks and great video! QUESTION: Can you confirm that you're loading up the backing track into VL3 or Band Helper? Thanks!
@@Barteloso Thankyou. I am loading them up on the VL3. But I have them loaded in BandHelper as a backup.
@@pro_muso thank you for the quick response!!
Thanks Mate for you informative insight into the voicelive, the learning curve - if you were to hint a rookie on whats the easiest/smoothest way to learn this hardware, apart from thorough studying of the paper manual, what would that be?
Thanks Lordo.
It depends on what you want out of it. Are you a guitarist, a guitarist singer? Will you want to use backing tracks or do you prefer to play strictly guitar. What's your purpose?
Superb video mate. Much better than TC's own
Thankyou Henry. 👍
Can you control an LED digital light system as well?
Not sure.
@@lords-music-school yeah I don’t see why not. But I’m not well versed in lighting commands on midi. Sorry I can’t help. A midi expert would know though. Maybe a Facebook group?
Hey Tod,
thx for your reply.
I downloaded the manual and found on page 49 that it can control a DAW and show control midi equipment which I assume would be midi lights or other show control midi equipment as well as like you said can be controlled by your ipad. Anyway I have to get one of these first as they are pretty hard to get I read.
Been using the VL2 for the past 9/10 years or so and it was a great revelation. Looking forward to getting one of these. As you say this is a revelation for solo/duo/trio acts. I started out with 4-trk cassette backing tracks recorded on a Yamaha MT44D, then midi came along and revolutionised my world but I was always looking for better / more reliable harmonies - then came the VL/2/3/3x yahooo! @@pro_muso
Lordy
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Thank you for all your amazing videos! I purchased the VL3X after watching your video, its awesome! I downloaded bandhelper as well to drive my BT's in the VL3X. I'm having problems with connecting the two. Do you have any advice that might help? Thanks again! : )
You’re welcome ☺️ I’m glad you are enjoying this great unit. I’ll probably need more info to answer that. What kind of problems in particular are you having?
Thank you,
In my "Midi Devices" in BandHelper I set "port" to Network Session 1 & "channel" to 1. Set my VL3X to midi Chanel 1.
Out of my laptop I am running usb out to midi in on VL3X.
Do I need to set up anything in my "Remote Control" or "Midi Presets"?
Also, in my song set up there is "Midi Song Number" is this where I put my song preset # from my VL3X?
@@pro_muso
No laptop, iPad
@@Link2theLinks I don't have any midi devices set for what I use under 'midi devices'. All I use are midi presets. I have an individual midi preset for every song because I need to change sounds for them all. Which I assume you do too. So yes, 'midi presets' is where it all happens to run my unit. So make your midi presets, name them, and then add them under the 'song' section for each VL3X preset. I hope that
helps.
Thanks so much, everything is working like it should.
Why on earth has the VL3X been discontinued??? Can’t find one for less than 2 grand CAD 😔
I can’t even find what TC Helicon are to replace it with. Any clues?
Great review, thank you!!
Oh has it!? Shiiit. I didn’t know. No idea why they would discontinue this. If I come across one I’ll let you know.
Try here www.ceceres.com.au/tc-helicon-tc-vls-extreme-helicon-voicelive3-extreme-pedal?gclid=CjwKCAjw3ueiBhBmEiwA4BhspLixKIOVvd5mDD1NSCW3U0hGJMHcUA9JyuUX-rGyp8B0RhkHReQP8BoCcyAQAvD_BwE
I’m considering one of these, it does seem to have a lot of answers! … I think my dream rig is Mainstage which seems to have even more answers, but I don’t a Apple laptop right now… Any thoughts on this appreciated!
You can use a PC to interface with it. Go to the website and search for software. Or you can just do it all manually.
are these functions available on the VL3 ?
Not sure bud. You’ll have to check.
Is it true that the metronome doesnt work with the backingtrack?
I couldn't tell you. I've never had a use for combining both.
@@pro_muso Thanks for your answer 👍
whaaaw!... great tutorial.... I am looking for such a unit... will look for your other material as well... thank you!
Ruud Jansen Hey thanks man. First comment on any of my videos. I’m losing motivation to make more because of so few views. I appreciate it. 👍 More than you know.
Great tutorial. You might get more hits if you edit the title to VL3X. That's how most people refer to it.
I use the PlayAcoustic currently, but I own the VoiceLive 3 (not the eXtreme version) and I really need to delve in and get up to gig readiness on the VL3 to take advantage of the myriad other options that it offers over the more basic PlayAcoustic. This has given me a little push to get moving on this now that I've got some down time coming up over the holidays.
Thanks for the tip. I'll try it. :-)
Hey Matt. Did you end up getting it?
I wanna use the effects both for singing and guitar, and obviously use backing tracks as well - sometimes the more I could fill in the space with other band players I don't cooperate with, the better, as a one band player for weddings, small concerts, studio recording...
Okay yes, pretty much the same as I use it. I guess if you want to fast track a repertoire I would start with the backing tracks. Learn how to use something like band helper to send midi signals to the VLX3. This way when you bring up a song you will have a backing track ready to go. You might have to play around with the levels a little bit because some songs sound one way in the studio and another way live. This is just trial and error. You can route the system to send three different outputs to your mixer. One for vocals, one for guitar, and the little stereo out for your backing tracks. That way you can mix them on the fly at a gig if any levels are too loud or soft. Other than that just dig in and learn. Another very important feature is button mapping. It is very handy if you want to set up which buttons do what and customise them. I hope that helps :-)
@@pro_muso Thank you for the hints, controlling the signal strength from the extrenal mixer tells me that 1.VLX3 hasn't the feauture of individual control of those 3 elements, 2.Has it but hidden and not easilly accessible 3.It's much faster to do it via physical mixer knobs
@@pro_muso Btw. any handy mixer you would recommend not too big or small for external gigs?
@@Recommendable it can output those individually. Which is what you want. It’s not a mixer so you wouldn’t want to try to control them from the unit. It’s great that they have this.
@@Recommendable I use a QSC 8 channel mixer. It’s fantastic. I think I’ll do a video on this unit too.
I was hoping you would SHOW me, not just tell me...😢
Hey Chris. There are a few on TH-cam. That’s how I learned.
i had one it was good but absolute waste of time to program and you only need one setting = harmony and that you can get in a smaller more portable form factor this band helper did sound interesting tho ...nevver heard of that ....
Hey bud. Yeah if you only need a harmonizer then use a separate one. I use this for so many different things and I find it very programmable. Each to their own though. It's a lot to learn and sometimes that can be too much hassle if you only need it for something simple. Cheers for the comment tho.
@@pro_muso Yeah its good but way too much to lug around pref the boss ve500 just cos of that really but it was good (the vle3) just too much to get my head around programmin...
@@byromtaylor6482 Yeah mate. I lug way too much gear around. Just a bit anal about my setup.I've spent many frustrating hours getting the right programming for the VL3X. Which is why I bought 2 of them. In case one breaks, then I don't lose everything.
@@pro_muso Lights pa guitar deskn etc etc n f cables...man ur preechin to the converted i hear ya an so many pp; dont actually undrstand thatthe [erforming is the easy bit...always makes me laugh that some ppl think they can book yu cheaper if they only want you for a hour ...lol that bit font matter its the set up n pull down ...I often wish I could magic the gear in an out a venue...
Yes absolutely. That's why I always set minimum hours to 3. It's all about the setup. Big hotels are the worst. In loading docks. Up elevators etc. I always tack on a bit more for them. They're normally corporate gigs anyway so the money doesn't really matter.
The only problem is gain😢
Can you be more specific?