They installed this system at a new building for my company. It was like driving through slush, threw up rocks that broke windows, and the plastic grid started to come up out of the rocks after only a few weeks. In less than a year it was completely ripped out and replaced with concrete. EDIT: For everyone saying that we drove on it wrong, or went too fast, or there was too much traffic. The only way into the area was through a security gate that you needed a code for. We moved into the offices in August 2022, but the building was not yet open to the public. (As of this writing: January 2024, it still isn't.) For the majority of the time, the staff of 3 were the only ones in the building. Within a month of the offices being opened, management was already talking about having the gravel replaced with concrete.
Sounds like it would only be good in driveways(small and very low speed), as opposed to parking lots. I also wonder if the prep was incorrect in the case you described.
@@mikemccausland6587 The issue with flying rock was due to them getting into the grass and them being thrown when the grass was cut. There was no way to be certain there were no rocks anywhere in the grass because they would be picked up and carried the car tires or in your shoes. (We parked on the grass, which just made it worse.) They ended up everywhere, including up inside the framework of the cars driving over it.
@ThinkTooMuch69 not if you lazy taterheads would use this fancy space age device called a drag and maintain your shit🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take your bs driveway elsewhere I'll save my money drink a beer and drive my wheeler around twice a year pulling a $20 driveway drag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@deepwashington499 not loosing gravel every 3-5 years is what he gained. This is actually a good idea ( pretty sure not good for the wallet, as I'm sure this plastic is recycled , thus free to the manufacturer, but ! The product is a premium in price. There several companies do this with different grid patterns. The advantage as stated is you aren't adding 15 years of gravel every 3-5 years where as if you don't use this method, the gravel tends to disburse outwards away from the main travel or parking area. Thus, your gunna need more gravel every few years to maintain a gravel drive rather than a mud and dirt drive
Compacted crushed stone isn’t permeable. My company installs permeable paver systems and I can tell you that system doesn’t work the way the voiceover claims. You have to use a washed stone base…not crushed. The weed barrier is permeable, but the stone isn’t.
There is a house with a permeable driveway about half a mile down the road from me. I guess it's about eight years now and there are ruts in it. The shiny gravel is still mostly there, but the gravel has spread out a bit in all directions especially towards the street. Theirs is permeable because it had washed aggregate where the fines were removed. Some weeds can grow on it as winds, tree sap, cottonwood, pollen, mold, etc over the years have deposited enough material to allow weeds to grow in it. The house is on its 2nd owner and they pulled the weeds as it recently looked clear of any growth. But it does rut but certainly far far less than simply pouring gravel over dirt.
Right? My friend was looking for "green" ideas at work cuz they asked him to. He found a spray that claimed to lower greenhouses gases. All you do is spray it on your building evenly. Two coats work even better, and once it dries, its invisible! Its almost as if you did do a damn thing! Well, wastimg time and money and creating more plastix garbage is a thing...
Hmm idk. I think the product itself is useful and has uses. It’s good at levelling and also making sure the gravel doesn’t move too much over time as it’s held in place by the lattice rather than just kinda pounded together by the compacter. I’ve personally used it (only in a very small project to level ground for a shed) and it’s pretty good, easy to use, and also takes up a lot of space that would otherwise be gravel (which whilst cheap ish, is a pain in the ass to move around so having to use less of it is nice
Oh. That makes sense. The whole time i was like "yeah, sure is green to introduce more plastic to erode into yhe environment with all the friction from yhe rocks and weathering from water passing through it"
It is an ad, but it doesn't mean it is a useless product. It's like seeing an advertisement for prescription glasses and calling it a scam because you have good vision. L take, especially when this product gets plastic out of landfills, and actually adds stability and support to a gravel driveway.
@@NTFZ That's around what it is for a set of them. You get around 30-50 sq ft per set in coverage. A "normal" sized driveway would probably cost +/- $500 in this stuff.
lol! I was thinking something similar.. Gotta show it after it rains w/1-3” precipitation. It’s really thin so after a few months of driving (parking) on it with anything heavier than 1/2 ton truck that be plastic will be crushed .. gravity , never forget about gravity! I just think that kinda important.
A weed barrier is one thing, but it's the dirt and leaf litter on top which causes weed problems eventually. Dirt is trapped in the gravel and stuff just grows. Every time - without fail
Yea We have a long gravel driveway and it’s so dusty when I mow And when I clean a car it gets dirty again when I move it back to where it was because of the dust :/
@@76marji no weeds are growing out of 4 inches of crushed compacted rock. you might get a weed or 2 but its growing out of dirt/seed from the top, nothing is growing from the botttom.
Bumps are good… and it settles out. Its always permeable There’s a huge pipe under it, so it’s collecting water… problem is he puts tar paper and plastic in it… so you shouldn’t drink that water or farm with it without distilling and filtering I don’t get why you’d use this? It’d just break apart into nano particles
@@dschaedler Lol... Yes it's all about "nature". Concrete has many advantages. If you're that "pro nature" maybe you should live in the woods and live 100% sustainably like the idiotic climate protesters blocking roads.
My husband though so too. Until winter came and he saw exactly what I meant by "it's not gonna lie where you put it". The cars dug through the gravel and into the clay below, and we had several situation where he used over an hour to get the car loose, and had to call people to come and help him push it. Then we put down a system like this. Never had issues like previously mentioned again.
@@minacapella8319”maintenance level of concrete” what? Brother a concrete driveway will last 25-30 years. Like you really don’t even gotta do anything.
They use the same concept in Dominican Republic. But using regular bricks with holes and place them in certain yards. Grass will grow and you can park your cars for events and not get muddy. Just keep signs for NO HIGH HEELS
Wont work in places where you have winters, the amount of mud and rutting under the bricks would ruin it in one spring season. But in the south it does sound classy!
"How is this different from me having a ton of gravel just being dumped and me spreading it over with a rake? " "Well, this way you pay me 4500 dollars"
@@PebloCostibar that's not really what happens dude you still get all that just with chunks of plastic you will be cleaning up forever. I've been doing commercial and residential landscaping for 15 years I've installed these before by request and was called back to remove every single one within 2 years because the plastic breaks within 6 months and you have plastic bits that stick out everywhere and that's ifthe plastic itself doesn't straight up work its way out and poke halfway out of the rock this stuff only makes sence on a steep hill that rock won't normally stay on...
@@Crackpidgeonextreme Ok this just popped into my head what would happen if instead of plastic it was metal would it last longer? What would the Pros and Cons be.
This is supposed to be the least permanent, most affordable, and simple driveway type, and you found a way to make it the least valuable, most expensive option. Cool
@@eftheusempireOf course not, as first earth and seeds are blown onto the gravel, then the weed comes. But this is, how we use them, to stabilize green. Without the liners below and without clean gravel, just use the dirt laying around. We WANT that the nature takes back and is not turned to mud when sometimes a car comes by. Not for everyday use.
I remember my dad learning the hard way about the vengeance of dandelions when he put weed barrier cloth down. They made a full invasion and tore up that cloth within less than 2 weeks. I saw less dedication to protect in plants vs zombies than I did in those dandelions.
@@WhitneyRussell-s6l Glad to have made you smile, to add to the comedy my dad ending up ripping out each flower and giving them names that were profanity.
@@bob_kazamakis there is an app called return youtube dislike for chrome. the dislike is still there just removed from view. unless the video author (like this) goes out of their way to completely disable dislikes. hmm dunno why anyone would do that for something they are promoting.
Disagree!. I have seen sexy driveways. The Lambo, probably added to the sexy, but the drive way looked real real good. This one isn't, looks good, but not sexy.
It doesnt because after abt a month when its completely ripped up they replace it with concrete and they contemplate an incompitent labor lawsuit against the company that installed it 😂
@@bastik.3011honestly I think it's a great idea. Although anywhere I'm worried about pressure I'd probably pave it or something. That being said for a budget driveway or one out in the country or just not city this is solid and will keep that gravel where it needs to be a long time. Although so does just putting it in a 4inch deep hole or whatever.
@@bastik.3011I have a client that uses this system and it’s pretty cool for keeping the driveway flat but it does Need touch up often in the first few years as the rocks break apart and degrade.
@@TH-cam_is_complete-total_shit Its not a thing in the USA i lnow but here in Germany there are laws about how much of your property you are allowed to seal and these have the advantage of letting water through
These grids have existed for over three decades, each with their own flare. They ALWAYS fail on any sizeable project with water concerns. What happens is in heavy rain water run off flows on top of the gravel because gravel only slowly percolates, and the plastic barriers become more exposed over time. When they become exposed, water starts undercutting the plastic grid because it can't flow through it, so it goes under it and lifts it up. Once any piece of the grid becomes exposed the whole thing is compromised.
It’s called Cellular Confinement and it’s been around for decades. It was never designed to be a permeable solution. It was designed for stabilization and erosion control. The plastic pieces should also be fastened to the ground with spikes before backfilling. When done properly, a system like this can support a 60,000 pound fire truck. And that’s on grass.
I have been looking at doing this with grass also . Since I'm in the Midwest, I'm generally hesitant about how things will be with snow removal. First time I saw it done right was at Newfields in Indianapolis
@@jrfarawayfrom2016 I here ya brother,I'm from New England so we deal with the same shit, those plows tear all kinds of landscaping up,it's not like they can see were the street or parking lot ends
this is absolutely taking care of only one single problem you may ever have with gravel... the ruts. However... once that plastic grid begins raising up... he'll likely figure it out.
En mi terreno quité yerbas, emparejé el suelo, le puse tres pulgadas de grava y duró mucho. Hay que arrancar los brotes en tiempo de lluvia, pero son muy pocos.
A plate compactor is not enough. Cars are going to drive on top of that. Before your barrier, you should have used a vibratory roller on the subgrade, and the rolled the first layer of your base lift as well. If you don’t have a solid base, that grid will just get pushed down every time a car drives over it. I’ve never used that stuff but I was in paving for 10 years and learned all about it. I don’t remember the name but it was sold as a way to pave a path AND grow grass on top of it. You rolled sod into the cells. Water and mow like a normal lawn. It works, but it’s not a perfect system.
Is barely permeable: Weed barrier will hold water in puddles, rock was compacted before plastic mesh making it difficult for water to get through. Water will likely pool in the mesh of the plastic. Is bad for environment: 100% recycled plastic or not, you’re still putting 2 layers of plastic in the ground, both of which will likely become damaged. Plastic will be in your soil. It’s not long lasting: Concrete and asphalt, although they do have cons, are long lasting. Gravel often gets messy and new gravel is needed often to maintain a gravel driveway. Whether using typical gravel, or this type, regular maintenance is required for it to look good. Typically gravel though, does have the previous cons.
The weed barrier isn’t plastic though. It’s a woven fabric like material. Water will go right through with little to no resistance as long as you use the correct stone. The plastic grid is used to strengthen the system. It’s typically used as a “grass-pave” system. In my area we use it for emergency vehicle driveways through landscape areas with sod on top for retirement complexes and apartments/condos. Everything he used in the video is permeable except the stone.
To everyone that think this will flood this will not at most it will be a danger when doing the lawn and shoot rocks at the very most! You guys really need to stop being driveway cretics and realize this guy has been doing this type of work for a long time much longer than you have and I’m sure the customer is not going to pay a few grand for a new job that will just flood again
OR as you already on the way, you do it right and don't use plastic and instead use paving stones. No plastic, No rocks in your tires, still water permeable and lasts forever if done right.
Seriously, and I'm sure it cost at least 3x more than it would've been had he not made it more complicated than it needed to be. It looks like he does good work and pays attention to detail, and maybe he's just trying to separate himself from the competition and has good intentions, but he didn't need to add the extra layer of gravel, and that plastic grid is completely unnecessary. For the money the homeowners must've spent, they could've gotten a paved driveway instead, with stone edging and a drainage system.
Hate to say it but this isn’t permeable. When you have multiple layers of compacted rock, that’s eventually going to be filled with sand and other fine materials, it will come in permeable. It doesn’t have to be asphalt to be non-permeable. Think about the bottom of a river or even a puddle. It’s sitting on top of Dirt, which is compacted fine rocks yet water doesn’t go through
Aerial view of that blacked out driveway against the house, and the curbside appeal, looks like it would devalue the property/home vs increasing it! This has to be a personal decision and liking from that homeowner bc it’s not attractive or easy on the eyes, to me.
%100 Devalued the property!!! No one is going to waste their hard earned $, on your over bloated, non-functional gravel driveway!!! Could.have, and should have put in concrete or ashpalt for the same cost as this garbage...
I put down crushed/recycled concrete 25 years ago on top of dirt. It's still there. I've never understood putting down "weed barrier". Weeds will eventually grow in gravel. Weeds will be here long after we're gone.
Ordered a pile of sand, bought 5 40 kilos cement, 15 years later my driveway is still there unscathed and still solid. This is too complicated for my asian logic. A shovel and 2 teenagers is my machine
@@DOI_ARTS Congratulations, you've created an impermeable surface and are now being fined until it's all ripped up and replaced. The reason some places have these laws is we've ripped up so much nature that acts a temporary holding places for water, that when it rains huge floods happen and blow away everyones houses down river. So the laws have a purpose.
My next door neighbor had a business doing dirt work and installing septic systems. He always swore by putting down a base layer of 1 and 2 size rock, packing it down and later covering it with light gravel. It really made a strong base. I trust his method over this any day of the week.
Your neighbor knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science and didn't need to be complicated or unnecessarily expensive, like I'm sure this shit show was.
tell me you know nothing, without telling me you know nothing.... what trouble did they have digging, leveling, packing and placing? and you get a much nice driveway that lasts way longer and doesnt get ruined
I’ve had it in one of my driveways for about 12 years and it you’d never know other than the fact it looks better and more level than my other driveway
The country club I used to work for used this on a section of the golf cart path that needed a quick repair while they allocated money to repave it. It cost them over $2000 and it washed out in a heavy rain 2 weeks after it was installed.
use it in sections, Pour cement in it / remove grids as it sets, Get the cool looking design that you thought you was going to see in the beginning ...You're welcome
Yard/garden/weed fabric is an absolute nightmare. 7 years after buying my house, I've been spending months ripping it all out by hand because it looks like trash bags showing through the ground. It stopped the weeds for the first year and that's it. 🙃
The last owner did that to our entire yard, and it's a terrible mess. My dog has fun getting a corner and tugging it out of the ground it's like a tug a war game for him, lol
@@Hertz2laugh I've seen them, but make sure they are the coated and painted ones. The zinc coated one rot in acidic soil after a few years and there's a lot of lime in gravel dust
not only that, but that "weed barrier" doesn't look like it would drain water for shit. I'm pretty sure that shit is the reason why my neighbor floods during heavy rain. he has gravel and that shit underneath surrounding his garage.
A decent downpour and that will 100% have water pooled at low spots. Those gravel grids are better suited to drives with a steep angle to assist in retaining the gravel - sure you'll have to rake back any runaway gravel over time but it reduces the amount significantly whilst keeping the area permeable
So you're saying it slowed down the water from running off at high speed? While the puddle is under gravel? Sounds like a win, though maybe not the intended one.
@@jerseyjim9092you will never stop nature from growing new seeds will eventually collect and grow. And the definition of a weed is just a plant not in our attended space Mother Nature doesn’t like naked soil
For those that are curious, grid systems like that are not support structures. They are stabilization systems. This one is being used to stabilize the gravel of the driveway but they can also be used to help stabilize man made slopes while the plants grow in.
@@davebrittain9216 if nothing else it ensures you get a proper 4 inches of crush and run laid down. Besides, part of the reason you get ruts in a gravel driveway is because your tires are forcing gravel away from the tire path. This is meant to stabilize the horizontal shift that you get from usage. Yes, it will help a level driveway. You will, however, see a greater amount of difference in driveways on slopes.
@@ianbelletti6241 I do a bed of 2 inch clear crushed stone then layer the top with 3/4 crushed and it locks into place very well. My drive has heavy use and does not move.
I wonder if this grid would help cement from cracking, it might even look nice peaking through to give the cement pad a unique cobblestone/paver brick style pattern.
There is a right way to install a gravel driveway, there is a reason you use bigger rock for the bottom layers. That small stuff will sink under grid then dirt will push up through said grid. This system can work well if done properly just this guy did not do it properly. A proper done regular gravel driveway without his grids will last longer
Weeds and grass easily grow in crushed rock. Not to mention soil is constantly developing on the surface especially if there's trees near. A weed barrier buried that deep does absolutely nothing to stop weeds on the surface.
first we put a plastic sheet, then an impermeable layer of compacted crushed rock, then some sort of weird ass baking form, and voila, a permeable driveway. Amazing.
Weed barrier is made from plastic but isn't a liner. it would be a woven geotextile. usually what's called "Weed Barrier" isn't designed to be super permeable, but it's a generic term for all geotextiles
Affiliate link goes to Lowe’s. Price is 163.98 per 22”x22”x1.5” square of product. For a 41’ x 32’ area or 1312 square foot it would cost $63,952.20. The more ya know
They do this in south america but just hammer the plates into the ground… you don’t need to destroy your whole lawn over it that’s literally the point of having them. The ground is permeable if you’ve got grass
Bruh, at that point just pour concrete. That driveway is going to last 2-3 years before it needs more gravel to fill and tamp. Not to mention all the rocks all over the place; stuck in your tire tread, all over the garage, spilling out into the street, in the yard etc. Gravel driveways should only be used for long driveways in rural areas.
Bro made it less permeable by putting those rubber weed barriers down and compacting it. Just dumping the gravel would have been better for permeability
Its not about using recyclable plastics! Its about using plastics for such stuff. Thats sheet you put under the gravel breaks down into soil after a while and the same is going to happen with the grid. Restrain from using plastics where they are not necessary.
В СССР делали такую дорогу в тех местах где грунты были сильно обводнены а дорога нужна была, чтобы техника не утонула в болоте делали такую дорогу! Но в СССР эту дорогу делали из отходов производства а тут наоборот нужно производство для этой дороги! Бетон будет дешевле стоить и покрытие будет твердым!
90% drive way 10% house
just how lightning mc-queen intended
Car guys house for sure just needs a little shop
the wife wont understand...
Typical American house 👍 😂
How else are you going to fit all of the new models from every brand?
They installed this system at a new building for my company. It was like driving through slush, threw up rocks that broke windows, and the plastic grid started to come up out of the rocks after only a few weeks. In less than a year it was completely ripped out and replaced with concrete.
EDIT: For everyone saying that we drove on it wrong, or went too fast, or there was too much traffic. The only way into the area was through a security gate that you needed a code for. We moved into the offices in August 2022, but the building was not yet open to the public. (As of this writing: January 2024, it still isn't.) For the majority of the time, the staff of 3 were the only ones in the building.
Within a month of the offices being opened, management was already talking about having the gravel replaced with concrete.
Jesus lmfao
Sounds like it would only be good in driveways(small and very low speed), as opposed to parking lots. I also wonder if the prep was incorrect in the case you described.
@@dearboy05 It wasn't a parking lot. It was a semi-circular driveway.
i would imagine rocks would fly but the thing is you should only be driving 10mph in a car park so im wondering......
@@mikemccausland6587 The issue with flying rock was due to them getting into the grass and them being thrown when the grass was cut. There was no way to be certain there were no rocks anywhere in the grass because they would be picked up and carried the car tires or in your shoes. (We parked on the grass, which just made it worse.) They ended up everywhere, including up inside the framework of the cars driving over it.
It's like a regular gravel driveway, but with extra steps
Ehhh gravel doesn’t hold shape really at all tho. You’ll get ditches eventually
No, much better. No pits forming from crevices. No water draining away lines of gravel into the road. Not weed sprouting.
@ThinkTooMuch69 not if you lazy taterheads would use this fancy space age device called a drag and maintain your shit🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take your bs driveway elsewhere I'll save my money drink a beer and drive my wheeler around twice a year pulling a $20 driveway drag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
did you miss permeable?
@@p6v665crushed rock isn’t permeable, washed rock is. Voiceover is inaccurate
And only $9200 later, you too can have a gravel driveway
Yeah and in the end what did they really accomplish that they didn't have already lol
What a waste just got some gorgeous cement
@@walterwhite1
I’m thinking cement would be like $30,000+ easily
@@BigBoii1369 no way, In Texas a good company would charge 10k max
@@deepwashington499 not loosing gravel every 3-5 years is what he gained. This is actually a good idea ( pretty sure not good for the wallet, as I'm sure this plastic is recycled , thus free to the manufacturer, but ! The product is a premium in price. There several companies do this with different grid patterns. The advantage as stated is you aren't adding 15 years of gravel every 3-5 years where as if you don't use this method, the gravel tends to disburse outwards away from the main travel or parking area. Thus, your gunna need more gravel every few years to maintain a gravel drive rather than a mud and dirt drive
Compacted crushed stone isn’t permeable. My company installs permeable paver systems and I can tell you that system doesn’t work the way the voiceover claims. You have to use a washed stone base…not crushed. The weed barrier is permeable, but the stone isn’t.
Correct
Oh no...
If you take out the sand and silt fraction crushed rock is permable.
And here I thought the Barrier was the problem.
The fabric will be permeable to weeds in the future. Nothing can stop them 😅
$500,000 later, we had a gravel driveway
no doubt.....imagine winter melt and them filling up , then night time hits temps go back down.....I got a rink
What a damn mess
There is a house with a permeable driveway about half a mile down the road from me. I guess it's about eight years now and there are ruts in it. The shiny gravel is still mostly there, but the gravel has spread out a bit in all directions especially towards the street. Theirs is permeable because it had washed aggregate where the fines were removed. Some weeds can grow on it as winds, tree sap, cottonwood, pollen, mold, etc over the years have deposited enough material to allow weeds to grow in it. The house is on its 2nd owner and they pulled the weeds as it recently looked clear of any growth. But it does rut but certainly far far less than simply pouring gravel over dirt.
@@animejanai4657 Interesting.
LMAO, really!
"Driveway" = "entire property"
“Next we tore down the house and replaced it with a Dutch gravel retention and sunning system.”
Presumptuous and pointless statement with nothing to prove it right or wrong.
Are you blind? Don't you see that tiny shack which has 1 room (multipurpose bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, living room all-in-one)?
Maybe it's a driveway for little planes
@@bigguccinelly300thus the “”, also, that’s a huge drive way no matter what.. can fit like 5 vehicles.
That’s not just a driveway that’s a parking lot
Hey yall. This is product placement. The idea is stupid and unnecessary because it's an ad. Hope this helps clarify.
Right? My friend was looking for "green" ideas at work cuz they asked him to.
He found a spray that claimed to lower greenhouses gases.
All you do is spray it on your building evenly. Two coats work even better, and once it dries, its invisible!
Its almost as if you did do a damn thing!
Well, wastimg time and money and creating more plastix garbage is a thing...
damn bro thanks, honestly didn't even think of that. I just thought it seemed strange lol
Hmm idk. I think the product itself is useful and has uses. It’s good at levelling and also making sure the gravel doesn’t move too much over time as it’s held in place by the lattice rather than just kinda pounded together by the compacter. I’ve personally used it (only in a very small project to level ground for a shed) and it’s pretty good, easy to use, and also takes up a lot of space that would otherwise be gravel (which whilst cheap ish, is a pain in the ass to move around so having to use less of it is nice
Oh. That makes sense. The whole time i was like "yeah, sure is green to introduce more plastic to erode into yhe environment with all the friction from yhe rocks and weathering from water passing through it"
It is an ad, but it doesn't mean it is a useless product. It's like seeing an advertisement for prescription glasses and calling it a scam because you have good vision. L take, especially when this product gets plastic out of landfills, and actually adds stability and support to a gravel driveway.
Nobody in their right mind would go to this much trouble... for a gravel driveway.
then you could had have it "Gepflastert" as we say in Germany :DD
Heck I would! That's if it were cheap! An ol wagon trail has less pot holes in it than my driveway! Perfect for going mudding on 🙄🤦🏼♀️😤
@@arosefortes6507it’s 155$ a piece of the plastic thing I saw some other guy in the comments say
@@NTFZ That's around what it is for a set of them. You get around 30-50 sq ft per set in coverage.
A "normal" sized driveway would probably cost +/- $500 in this stuff.
@@Lusterredux then wtf was the other guy saying???
All the drawbacks of gravel, with all the cost and labor of concrete. Great Job!!
lol! I was thinking something similar..
Gotta show it after it rains w/1-3” precipitation.
It’s really thin so after a few months of driving (parking) on it with anything heavier than 1/2 ton truck that be plastic will be crushed .. gravity , never forget about gravity!
I just think that kinda important.
@@analogalien651nah, it won’t break. Even if it does crack in a few places, it’ll still do it’s job.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls “I won’t break” and “Even if it does crack” What? Either it does or doesn’t
@@sharicamonet9675 do you have a learning disability that affects your reading comprehension. Neither sentence contradicts the other.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylsand, what is the job of that plastic grid?
So you used a permeable driveway system with non-permeable weed barrier. Brilliant.
The water can still flow out sideways, still could be a problematic build based on the application of the driveways function
Still going to have to mow your driveway one day😂
A weed barrier is one thing, but it's the dirt and leaf litter on top which causes weed problems eventually. Dirt is trapped in the gravel and stuff just grows. Every time - without fail
Yeah I've found 5/8" minus makes a wonderful growing medium!
I hate " weed barrier" " landscape fabric". Waste of time and money. Glad someone else knows.
Life, uh, finds a way.
But weed barrier, when it lasts, prevents weeds from rooting more than a couple inches deep, so they are easy to pull out.
Former landscaper here, weed barrier is the biggest scam in the world
ESPECIALLY for those who has to remove it
Gravel driveways are nightmares. Lawnmowers become rock guns.
No lawns left to mow if everything is now a gravel driveway.
MY POOR BEAUTIFUL GLASS KITCHEN DOOR!! may it RIP
Yea
We have a long gravel driveway and it’s so dusty when I mow
And when I clean a car it gets dirty again when I move it back to where it was because of the dust :/
Also think of snow removal
@@urmommamudkips8343🤯 😖 😩 😳
i cannot imagine why anyone would WANT a *gravel driveway* in the first place! 😬😫
Wait until the weeds take hold again. They'll wrap around the plastic grid. You'll never get rid of them.
Yeah, try pulling that stuff out then 😂
Oh gosh I didn't even think of that
That weed barrier aint gonna stop the dealers.
😳 it never does, does it?? 🧐
@@76marji no weeds are growing out of 4 inches of crushed compacted rock. you might get a weed or 2 but its growing out of dirt/seed from the top, nothing is growing from the botttom.
@@darylmixan8170
You totally missed the joke 🤣
Weed dealers!! As in ganja, Mary Jane, stuff that some people can't go a day without.
@@darylmixan8170 Hasta yo que no hablo Inglés entendí el chiste.
@@tk1500😂😂😂😂
Anyone who's ever seen one of these types of systems after a few years knows they don't last or work well.
I have similar driveway, Its full of bumps
Bumps are good… and it settles out.
Its always permeable
There’s a huge pipe under it, so it’s collecting water… problem is he puts tar paper and plastic in it… so you shouldn’t drink that water or farm with it without distilling and filtering
I don’t get why you’d use this? It’d just break apart into nano particles
exactly.
I'd imagine they would slide around over time, especially in wet tropical climates.
Oh not to mention adding micro plastics to the surrounding environment
For the labor cost, get a complete concrete driveway.
Aaah yess, the good old 'fuck nature it doesn't need the water anyways' approach
That would then look even worse than the stone desert in the vid...
@@dschaedler Lol... Yes it's all about "nature". Concrete has many advantages. If you're that "pro nature" maybe you should live in the woods and live 100% sustainably like the idiotic climate protesters blocking roads.
To me concrete seems like one of them worst materials for your driveway
@PilotAwe idk quicksand driveway sounds alot worse
Imagine spending this much time, effort and money to have a gravel driveway....
"Instead of bringing this plastic to the landfill, we put it in the ground"
And we wonder why we have microplstics in the drinking water and our testosterone goes down
Plastic layer beneath and plastic grid is disgusting
@@andreasstuermer4946iono bout you but Im on my fifth chunk of irradiated plastic and Im feeling manly
Blame the manufacturer not the consumer
The bigger the Carbon FootPrint the better!💯👍
Completely changed it from a gravel driveway to a smooth gravel driveway
That's plate compacted to you good sir 😂
😊 funny! 😂
@@beenzndbalogna92
😹 & *funnier!* 🤣
Funniest!!😅😅
That looks like a more expensive way to lay down gravel
It is
My husband though so too. Until winter came and he saw exactly what I meant by "it's not gonna lie where you put it". The cars dug through the gravel and into the clay below, and we had several situation where he used over an hour to get the car loose, and had to call people to come and help him push it. Then we put down a system like this. Never had issues like previously mentioned again.
It's more expensive at base cost but holds so much better. And doesn't require the maintenance level of concrete.
@@minacapella8319”maintenance level of concrete” what? Brother a concrete driveway will last 25-30 years. Like you really don’t even gotta do anything.
It needs to be compacted.
They use the same concept in Dominican Republic. But using regular bricks with holes and place them in certain yards. Grass will grow and you can park your cars for events and not get muddy. Just keep signs for NO HIGH HEELS
Wont work in places where you have winters, the amount of mud and rutting under the bricks would ruin it in one spring season. But in the south it does sound classy!
@@ivywoodxrecordswe have things exactly like this in the PNW, which doesn't have harsh winters, but has a whole lot of rain. They all work great.
No matter how strong those weed barriers are, those weeds always find a way through 😂
It depends on the product. Some are very weak and some are very strong. They wildly vary.
@@PANZERFAUST90 Cope
@@deepwashington499 lol?
I said their quality has a wide range. Did your bot talking tree malfunction?
@@PANZERFAUST90 Cope
@@deepwashington499 lmao okay, bot
"Gravel driveways are nightmares"
" MINE will be different! "
Nightmares? Lol
Seems like an incredible way to over charge and under deliver.
"How is this different from me having a ton of gravel just being dumped and me spreading it over with a rake? "
"Well, this way you pay me 4500 dollars"
No pits forming from crevices. No water draining away lines of gravel into the road. Not weed sprouting.
@@PebloCostibar that's not really what happens dude you still get all that just with chunks of plastic you will be cleaning up forever. I've been doing commercial and residential landscaping for 15 years I've installed these before by request and was called back to remove every single one within 2 years because the plastic breaks within 6 months and you have plastic bits that stick out everywhere and that's ifthe plastic itself doesn't straight up work its way out and poke halfway out of the rock this stuff only makes sence on a steep hill that rock won't normally stay on...
@@Crackpidgeonextreme Ok this just popped into my head what would happen if instead of plastic it was metal would it last longer? What would the Pros and Cons be.
@@PebloCostibar(X)
@@cyrushansen5378no pros, just the cons of metal shards coming up to puncture tires, lol
This is supposed to be the least permanent, most affordable, and simple driveway type, and you found a way to make it the least valuable, most expensive option. Cool
Buddy, you completely sealed your front yard.
No he didnt. Those cloth weed barriers do literally nothing to stop weeds
@@eftheusempire it stops them but over time weeds will grow on top if a seed settles
@@Jim26D Yup. Weeds are good at that.
Nature always wins
@@eftheusempireOf course not, as first earth and seeds are blown onto the gravel, then the weed comes. But this is, how we use them, to stabilize green. Without the liners below and without clean gravel, just use the dirt laying around. We WANT that the nature takes back and is not turned to mud when sometimes a car comes by. Not for everyday use.
Bro's land built like an american diner💀😭💀
"Weed barrier"
Dandelions: "And I took that personally"
I remember my dad learning the hard way about the vengeance of dandelions when he put weed barrier cloth down. They made a full invasion and tore up that cloth within less than 2 weeks.
I saw less dedication to protect in plants vs zombies than I did in those dandelions.
That made me laugh way harder😂 than it should have. Thank you, I genuinely needed that. Now I'm smiling!!
@@rustyhowe3907Thank you for the mental picture. 😅😂
@@WhitneyRussell-s6l Glad to have made you smile, to add to the comedy my dad ending up ripping out each flower and giving them names that were profanity.
Kek
Don't trust everything you see online. Especially, shorts & reels.
Amazing how they removed this dislike button and then went on to introduce the one feature that would spread misinformation the fastest.
This videos got 36K dislikes
@@JustMeDark37k now
@@Kenzirs50k now
@@bob_kazamakis there is an app called return youtube dislike for chrome. the dislike is still there just removed from view. unless the video author (like this) goes out of their way to completely disable dislikes. hmm dunno why anyone would do that for something they are promoting.
Civil engineer here.
It doesn't matter what you do or how fancy it is.
"Driveway" is NEVER connected with "sexy".
Agreed!🤡🙏🏻
Disagree!. I have seen sexy driveways.
The Lambo, probably added to the sexy, but the drive way looked real real good.
This one isn't, looks good, but not sexy.
I'd love to see how this looks 2 years later.
It'll probably be all concrete within two years.
covered in asphalt
It doesnt because after abt a month when its completely ripped up they replace it with concrete and they contemplate an incompitent labor lawsuit against the company that installed it 😂
Covered in weeds
It doesn't last 1
"Sir there is a bit of house on my driveway" 💀
Wooow
Mate I just don’t get it. Can you make a video explaining why this is better than traditional alternatives?
Basically this way the sheering force of tires wont push away the material and create holes and dips which then can fill with water etc.
@@bastik.3011honestly I think it's a great idea. Although anywhere I'm worried about pressure I'd probably pave it or something. That being said for a budget driveway or one out in the country or just not city this is solid and will keep that gravel where it needs to be a long time. Although so does just putting it in a 4inch deep hole or whatever.
@@bastik.3011I have a client that uses this system and it’s pretty cool for keeping the driveway flat but it does Need touch up often in the first few years as the rocks break apart and degrade.
@@TH-cam_is_complete-total_shit Its not a thing in the USA i lnow but here in Germany there are laws about how much of your property you are allowed to seal and these have the advantage of letting water through
I don't have a clue... but plastic will ruin before concrete and rebar will...
These grids have existed for over three decades, each with their own flare. They ALWAYS fail on any sizeable project with water concerns. What happens is in heavy rain water run off flows on top of the gravel because gravel only slowly percolates, and the plastic barriers become more exposed over time. When they become exposed, water starts undercutting the plastic grid because it can't flow through it, so it goes under it and lifts it up. Once any piece of the grid becomes exposed the whole thing is compromised.
I saw this and was like "how are we supposed to snowblow that?" before remembering some people live in snow-free locations
That was my first thought exactly. A plow would destroy that in one pass.
Plow?! It’s a driveway not farmland.
@@sethlarson9433Snow plow
@@sethlarson9433 a snow plow, think bulldozer blade.
@@sethlarson9433Snow plows exist-
But even a snowblower would destroy this easily lol
It’s called Cellular Confinement and it’s been around for decades. It was never designed to be a permeable solution. It was designed for stabilization and erosion control. The plastic pieces should also be fastened to the ground with spikes before backfilling. When done properly, a system like this can support a 60,000 pound fire truck. And that’s on grass.
The company I worked for had me putting it down were all the grass was going
I have been looking at doing this with grass also . Since I'm in the Midwest, I'm generally hesitant about how things will be with snow removal. First time I saw it done right was at Newfields in Indianapolis
@@jrfarawayfrom2016 I here ya brother,I'm from New England so we deal with the same shit, those plows tear all kinds of landscaping up,it's not like they can see were the street or parking lot ends
When you think about it, shouldn't the grass itself be able to support a 60k lb truck?
@@redbelle648 maybe somewhere in a permanent drought, that doesn't account for saturated soil from rain or snow at all
this is absolutely taking care of only one single problem you may ever have with gravel... the ruts. However... once that plastic grid begins raising up... he'll likely figure it out.
Plot twist, it costs more than asphalt
Even more costly than concrete!
No doubt.
I was going to say... All that work could have put 2 inches of 9.5
Asphalt is way more expensive
@@GX2reno... its not, it also takes half the labor to install over this bullshit
Buddy just getting absolutely destroyed in the comments and I'm here for every minute of it
Hahaha...brilliant. Laugh bonus-multiplier.
🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
❤ but does it save u in some way? Money or asphalt or......❓
@@laurieamaral5844 it will make you bankrupt lmao
Same omg
just installing fresh gravel would've also completely transformed this driveway
Or a box blade with the scarifiers down (for free)
En mi terreno quité yerbas, emparejé el suelo, le puse tres pulgadas de grava y duró mucho. Hay que arrancar los brotes en tiempo de lluvia, pero son muy pocos.
@@Ricardo-qe2qx idk what that says gang
@@serbianspaceforce6873Do you not have a translate button? I'm being serious are there some devices or OS that don't support the translate system?
@@TroublezAhead00i didn't on my pc but now on my phone i do 🤷
A plate compactor is not enough. Cars are going to drive on top of that. Before your barrier, you should have used a vibratory roller on the subgrade, and the rolled the first layer of your base lift as well.
If you don’t have a solid base, that grid will just get pushed down every time a car drives over it.
I’ve never used that stuff but I was in paving for 10 years and learned all about it. I don’t remember the name but it was sold as a way to pave a path AND grow grass on top of it. You rolled sod into the cells. Water and mow like a normal lawn. It works, but it’s not a perfect system.
The most important thing was left out; price?
more than concrete lol
but its recycled plastic...i feel like that makes it cost more...concrete would have been cheaper.
I'm sure that was no accident.
because its so expensive he left it out on purpose haha
Click on link. $155. Per panel 😮
Is barely permeable: Weed barrier will hold water in puddles, rock was compacted before plastic mesh making it difficult for water to get through. Water will likely pool in the mesh of the plastic.
Is bad for environment: 100% recycled plastic or not, you’re still putting 2 layers of plastic in the ground, both of which will likely become damaged. Plastic will be in your soil.
It’s not long lasting: Concrete and asphalt, although they do have cons, are long lasting. Gravel often gets messy and new gravel is needed often to maintain a gravel driveway. Whether using typical gravel, or this type, regular maintenance is required for it to look good. Typically gravel though, does have the previous cons.
Yea but this is half the cost of a normal driveway
@@Dinkwaddat first
Not to mention the driveway slopes down to the house and garage. The water will most likely flood the garage and possibly the house.
The weed barrier isn’t plastic though. It’s a woven fabric like material. Water will go right through with little to no resistance as long as you use the correct stone. The plastic grid is used to strengthen the system. It’s typically used as a “grass-pave” system. In my area we use it for emergency vehicle driveways through landscape areas with sod on top for retirement complexes and apartments/condos. Everything he used in the video is permeable except the stone.
To everyone that think this will flood this will not at most it will be a danger when doing the lawn and shoot rocks at the very most! You guys really need to stop being driveway cretics and realize this guy has been doing this type of work for a long time much longer than you have and I’m sure the customer is not going to pay a few grand for a new job that will just flood again
OR as you already on the way, you do it right and don't use plastic and instead use paving stones. No plastic, No rocks in your tires, still water permeable and lasts forever if done right.
It completely transformed the driveway... NOT the fact that we ripped up the entire driveway and made a new one.... WHAT?
It's things like that that has me questioning whether people either know what they're saying or just don't think before they say it.
Ooos 5/8 minus is no longer permeable. When compacted it has only 3% permeability. Next time use 5/8 washed to allow water to pass through
I'm living for these comments calling out OPs messup 😭
Literally came here to ask why not washed.
ohh yah guy messed up 😂
If it’s granular, it’s permeable. The permeability (cm/sec) depends on gradation
@@gordonlekfors2708Also the plastic will be worn down by stone movements over time and will spread micro plastic into the environment......
How to turn a small gravel parking space into an expensive over engineered parking space.
That should’ve been the headline.
Seriously, and I'm sure it cost at least 3x more than it would've been had he not made it more complicated than it needed to be. It looks like he does good work and pays attention to detail, and maybe he's just trying to separate himself from the competition and has good intentions, but he didn't need to add the extra layer of gravel, and that plastic grid is completely unnecessary. For the money the homeowners must've spent, they could've gotten a paved driveway instead, with stone edging and a drainage system.
while adding like 40lbs of plastics into your soil
The whole lot is now filled with gravel. Dude never mows. Genius.
Hate to say it but this isn’t permeable. When you have multiple layers of compacted rock, that’s eventually going to be filled with sand and other fine materials, it will come in permeable.
It doesn’t have to be asphalt to be non-permeable.
Think about the bottom of a river or even a puddle. It’s sitting on top of Dirt, which is compacted fine rocks yet water doesn’t go through
"We have one beautiful, sexy beast of a driveway"
Son that shit looks absolutely fucking horrible lmao
You have to epoxy over top.
It doesnt look any different than a dirt road anywhere..
@@stewpendousgrowth4 Then how is it permeable? What's the point of this whole video? I'm legit confused.
@@santanalzshe made a joke about videos that claim they make something look nice, but making it look horrible, often involving epoxy
@@stewpendousgrowth4 no.
I've never heard a driveway being called a sexy beast. 😂😂😂
Aerial view of that blacked out driveway against the house, and the curbside appeal, looks like it would devalue the property/home vs increasing it! This has to be a personal decision and liking from that homeowner bc it’s not attractive or easy on the eyes, to me.
%100 Devalued the property!!! No one is going to waste their hard earned $, on your over bloated, non-functional gravel driveway!!! Could.have, and should have put in concrete or ashpalt for the same cost as this garbage...
Wait until you see the women
Theres a first for everything...
only people can be sexy. Driveways cannot be sexy! SMH
It's a perfect driveway if you want to track gray dust all through your home.
This is just a gravel driveway with some plastic in it. It was already permeable just being gravel.
It doesn't get weeds and wont wash away nearly as bad
Actually, gravel driveways are considered impervious, not permeable.
Depends on the type of gravel whether or not it is considered permeable or not.
It's got 'recycled' in the name. The Grenola gang and the WEF crowd will love it and in my country, probably steal from the tax payer to subsidise it.
@@nickhunter8102The plastic grid is not why it doesn't get weeds.
Microplastics for centuries
How is this the only comment i seen abt this
Thats what I was going to say
Millenia.
Macro plastics for millennia.
Until the day of judgment
I put down crushed/recycled concrete 25 years ago on top of dirt. It's still there. I've never understood putting down "weed barrier". Weeds will eventually grow in gravel. Weeds will be here long after we're gone.
Ordered a pile of sand, bought 5 40 kilos cement, 15 years later my driveway is still there unscathed and still solid. This is too complicated for my asian logic. A shovel and 2 teenagers is my machine
Did you put down gravel before the concrete? Or just sand? (I’m curious if just sand works, I don’t know much about concrete).
@@strikeforcek9149 aggregate/gravel is laid then cemebt mixture is poured on top, I put a small size rebar just to keep it all together
@@DOI_ARTS Congratulations, you've created an impermeable surface and are now being fined until it's all ripped up and replaced.
The reason some places have these laws is we've ripped up so much nature that acts a temporary holding places for water, that when it rains huge floods happen and blow away everyones houses down river. So the laws have a purpose.
At the end of the day, you still have a gravel driveway.
it's wild to me that in 20 years this could still grow weeds, no matter how great you are!
My next door neighbor had a business doing dirt work and installing septic systems. He always swore by putting down a base layer of 1 and 2 size rock, packing it down and later covering it with light gravel. It really made a strong base. I trust his method over this any day of the week.
Also easier to fix that this damn thing. Just one wrong move on snow blow height adjustment and this thing is in peaces and soon to go into landfill.
Great advice. Need to repair my gravel parking. Will use the rock and gravel method. Seems legit.
Your neighbor knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science and didn't need to be complicated or unnecessarily expensive, like I'm sure this shit show was.
man, i'd never do this because the wind would fuck everything up lol especially like 60mph winds
Well that may last well for 5-10 years but this plastic he uses is the difference needed to extend the lifetime to 25+ years
That looks like the most depressing piece of engineering I've ever seen
americans when something isn’t extremely wasteful and bad for the environment: 🤬🤬
@@coastingalongyeah because putting brittle plastic in the ground for water to wash out is great for the environment
@@coastingalonglets bury plastic under road instead of using cement that is literally just rocks and sand
@@isaacmarcucci3777 you’re proving my point……
@@FedkaSlovanich damn you’re ultra stupid huh?
So all of the expense and trouble of concrete or asphalt but most of the drawbacks of gravel? I'm sold!
tell me you know nothing, without telling me you know nothing.... what trouble did they have digging, leveling, packing and placing? and you get a much nice driveway that lasts way longer and doesnt get ruined
So you saved plastic from going into the landfill by burying it in someone driveway.
if you didnt pour it in concrete it's your own asphalt
Lol
Best construction pun of the day
I've been in the industry for over a decade. My crew taught me well@@nathanielweber7843
I fking hate sht asphalt patch jobs that make the problem worse.
@@OGTH-camEnjoyerIkr ? Asphalt patches, phew. Never on my watch. Patches.
Then the rocks get taken by the tires, grid breaks apart and the plastic starts coming up. Two years later it’s a mess.
with this grid those rocks will stay put for a lot longer
not really bro, this is a concept of mechanical concrete, its suitable for driveway or for less traffic road.
I’ve had it in one of my driveways for about 12 years and it you’d never know other than the fact it looks better and more level than my other driveway
I'm sorry you can't drive Jay...
And twice as espensive to repair. Rubber tire shred pavementwould be permeable
The country club I used to work for used this on a section of the golf cart path that needed a quick repair while they allocated money to repave it. It cost them over $2000 and it washed out in a heavy rain 2 weeks after it was installed.
Lol they failed the foresight of storm water run off.
use it in sections, Pour cement in it / remove grids as it sets, Get the cool looking design that you thought you was going to see in the beginning ...You're welcome
Yard/garden/weed fabric is an absolute nightmare. 7 years after buying my house, I've been spending months ripping it all out by hand because it looks like trash bags showing through the ground. It stopped the weeds for the first year and that's it. 🙃
Pull weeds.
@@grapetonenatches186 exactly.
The last owner did that to our entire yard, and it's a terrible mess. My dog has fun getting a corner and tugging it out of the ground it's like a tug a war game for him, lol
And products like this have the nerve to claim to be "environmentally friendly" 😂... My 🍑.
LMAO
This shits a NIGHTMARE after a few years. The second the gravel errods and one of the plates pops up the entire system because falls apart
You can use stakes that have a half loop on the end to prevent the webbing from lifting.
The stakes look like an uoside-down " J "
@@Hertz2laugh I've seen them, but make sure they are the coated and painted ones. The zinc coated one rot in acidic soil after a few years and there's a lot of lime in gravel dust
I can imagine.I wouldn't want that at all
not only that, but that "weed barrier" doesn't look like it would drain water for shit. I'm pretty sure that shit is the reason why my neighbor floods during heavy rain.
he has gravel and that shit underneath surrounding his garage.
How's it live up to northern winters, frost heavel & plowing?
you made your old driveway look like the garden of eden in comparison to that soulless abyss that you call "a sexy beast"
Honestly lol so true this dude can't be being genuine, he just can't. Making some money somewhere to shill this nonsense.
One question. The weed barrier is that permeable too. The gravel will be but rainwater needs to permeate below the weed barrier.
90% driveway, 10% house, 0% garden, wow
Unfortunately, people are filling up their garden with concrete/gravel/rock. Just park on the grass
Parking on grass regularly is a bad idea. Your car will rust way quicker from the water evaporating off the grass in the morning.
Gardeners are protesting in front of his house! No gravel no trabajo!
Thats his shed. The house is on the left
I agree 110%
Keep up the videos man! Crazy you only have 37k subscribers. You could make it big on yt I feel like
A decent downpour and that will 100% have water pooled at low spots. Those gravel grids are better suited to drives with a steep angle to assist in retaining the gravel - sure you'll have to rake back any runaway gravel over time but it reduces the amount significantly whilst keeping the area permeable
And now you have a 5" puddle,
Camouflaged by gravel.
😂😂😂
So you're saying it slowed down the water from running off at high speed? While the puddle is under gravel? Sounds like a win, though maybe not the intended one.
You can get mesh weed barriers that allow water to drain
I'm having a hard time seeing the benefits of this.
Its benefits belong to the contractor as it will benefit financially from repairing or replacing this setup every few years. 😅😅😅
It wont move around
Serves more as a soil/stone separator. The depth of the fill will determine whether weeds will grow.
Because he is doing it wrong.
Wrong gravel. Not deep enough ....
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@@jerseyjim9092you will never stop nature from growing new seeds will eventually collect and grow. And the definition of a weed is just a plant not in our attended space Mother Nature doesn’t like naked soil
I like how you add a bunch of recycled plastic to the driveway so when it gets torn up, and disposed of, it is no longer clean fill.
For those that are curious, grid systems like that are not support structures. They are stabilization systems. This one is being used to stabilize the gravel of the driveway but they can also be used to help stabilize man made slopes while the plants grow in.
This grid has no purpose on a near flat driveway.
@@davebrittain9216 if nothing else it ensures you get a proper 4 inches of crush and run laid down. Besides, part of the reason you get ruts in a gravel driveway is because your tires are forcing gravel away from the tire path. This is meant to stabilize the horizontal shift that you get from usage. Yes, it will help a level driveway. You will, however, see a greater amount of difference in driveways on slopes.
@@ianbelletti6241 I do a bed of 2 inch clear crushed stone then layer the top with 3/4 crushed and it locks into place very well. My drive has heavy use and does not move.
Honestly they're missing the mark in selling this for driveway applications with crushed stone.
@@pr9039 What do you mean pr9039?
I wonder if this grid would help cement from cracking, it might even look nice peaking through to give the cement pad a unique cobblestone/paver brick style pattern.
How is it permeable when you’re not even using drainage stone?
Barely to mention the plastic sheets in between all that garbage...
There is a right way to install a gravel driveway, there is a reason you use bigger rock for the bottom layers. That small stuff will sink under grid then dirt will push up through said grid.
This system can work well if done properly just this guy did not do it properly. A proper done regular gravel driveway without his grids will last longer
Weeds and grass easily grow in crushed rock. Not to mention soil is constantly developing on the surface especially if there's trees near. A weed barrier buried that deep does absolutely nothing to stop weeds on the surface.
Exactly my thoughts.
I love the stakes for next guy to find when paving lol
He got a weed barrier underneath tho?
@@devinsylvester1043weed seeds travel in the air too
yeah but not that much, and i bet its easier to pull out of a rock substrate than dirt
Dude was like a 70% of the way to just call in a few cement trucks
first we put a plastic sheet, then an impermeable layer of compacted crushed rock, then some sort of weird ass baking form, and voila, a permeable driveway. Amazing.
Not permeable, crushed stone has a permeability of 3%
Summed it up nicely.
Weed barrier is made from plastic but isn't a liner. it would be a woven geotextile.
usually what's called "Weed Barrier" isn't designed to be super permeable, but it's a generic term for all geotextiles
No; First they dig up the old.driveway, then waste a bunch of $ on this garbage...
You forgot the other layer of impermeable layer of compacter crushed rock.
Hope more people use this method especially India 🇮🇳
I like the part at the end where you make us think you’re going to put some nice gravel down but then the video just ends
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They do this in south america but just hammer the plates into the ground… you don’t need to destroy your whole lawn over it that’s literally the point of having them. The ground is permeable if you’ve got grass
also plants hold moisture which makes things cooler in the summer
So it just holds the soil in place so tires won't dig in? What happens around the edges?
@@ashg7219 what do you mean the edges? What edges?
Putting more plastics into our grounds, just what we needed
But the horror of a few weeds sprouting! THINK OF THE CHILDREN
@@amarok5486 God forbid they experience walking barefoot on grass
And it's expensive to do also.😅
@@rommel1459 what does that have to do with the weeds sprouting
or...hear me out: we just paved a regular driveway
Nothing done about draining. 100% going to have a pool above all that plastic.
You mean the permeable landscape FABRIC? Everything about this driveway is permeable from the fabric/hollow plastic/gravel.
Bruh, at that point just pour concrete. That driveway is going to last 2-3 years before it needs more gravel to fill and tamp. Not to mention all the rocks all over the place; stuck in your tire tread, all over the garage, spilling out into the street, in the yard etc. Gravel driveways should only be used for long driveways in rural areas.
The strongest gravel driveway is concrete. This is common knowledge.
Bro made it less permeable by putting those rubber weed barriers down and compacting it. Just dumping the gravel would have been better for permeability
Its not about using recyclable plastics!
Its about using plastics for such stuff. Thats sheet you put under the gravel breaks down into soil after a while and the same is going to happen with the grid.
Restrain from using plastics where they are not necessary.
В СССР делали такую дорогу в тех местах где грунты были сильно обводнены а дорога нужна была, чтобы техника не утонула в болоте делали такую дорогу! Но в СССР эту дорогу делали из отходов производства а тут наоборот нужно производство для этой дороги! Бетон будет дешевле стоить и покрытие будет твердым!
I think normal grass would've been the better option
Top comment.
This is actually a product originally used in agriculture, especially livestock and it works wonders. Idk about driveways though
Something very similar has been used for rural driveways for years in my country. Works well.