Back then I totally forgot they died in this scene, and wondered mid games why didn't they join the gang. In the remake their will be really sad since they won't be voiceless chunks of low polygons. We human only emphasize with what we can relate.
10:36 Wow, I think they did the original better than the Remake for this part. Seeing a clear view of the whole plate coming down like that is fucking terrifying
Same. God damn this remake is really hard on your feels. You end up loving all the characters and how much they develop. And for them to be snuffed our this way is just so much.
I played this moment in the remake last night. I knew I needed to watch the original to remind myself of it. Shows that even in blocky graphics a story can have huge emotional heft.
@@jeffreyali1456 Lol. They didn't die in the Remake aside from Jessie. Also the Disney sing along of the people of Sector 7 really ruined the aspect of this whole scene being pretty dark, tragic and evil.
@@Xxandrew01 Jesse and wedge died (later on for wedge), plus some people on the slums and pretty much everyone on top. And it was still pretty evil for the shinra corp to do that. And Disney sing along? Now your just exaggerating for no reason. It was still pretty ominous. Maybe not as much as the original given that more people died and all, but certainly not ruined so relax lol
@@jeffreyali1456 Yes it was ruined. It felt like no one really cared to the Sector 7 plate dropped killing so many in the remake, where as the original it truly was a moment of shock and anger for all the characters involved in it that survived it. It was in fact ruined in the remake.
Jessie's death was sad yes, but didn't expect Bigg's death to be sadder in the remake. Biggs padding Cloud's hair like a lil boi... such a mature side of Biggs.
To see all this come to life after 23 days was such a treat and the voice acting behind it, damn I had a tear man this scene was powerful. I am not ready to see aeirith die in the remake
@@artyomxiii But did she really? Somehow even Biggs survived, which made absolutely no sense. They needed to die. That's what would've made it so terrible. Just like Aerith needs to die, but who knows what they'll do with that.
@@blacksunapocalypse really? 🤔 Hmm.. all those sad pity cutscenes are for nothing then. This isn't disney who only the villain died. I hate they chose this new timeline. Gonna be so messed up later.
damn i just did this in the ff7 remake and came here to see what the original was like. insane how true they stayed to the story while added more to it. incredibly done
the original has real loss. the new one has all this michael bay shit happening and doesn't show even that iconic view of the plate falling right on top of you. It didn't need to disintegrate and explode that doesn't even make sense, it just needed the doom and peril of dropping right onto the poor favelas, just like the original showed. I'm not trying to be someone that can't enjoy the new game because of differences, I had honestly forgot these specific scenes and only remembering how it made me feel. and the original has some important distinctions: Shinra looks competent and just plain apathetic to people's lives. In the remake, Shinra looks incompetent. All their robots fail. Their soldiers defect because they empathize with refugees. We empathise with Shinra as just an oil/energy company that doesn't see the perspective of Avalanche. Everyone evacuates. The party winds up in random rubble, instead of at that playground (the cut scene in the remake shows the playground, way to go!). The original even shows a glimpse of the middle class on top of the plate being caught off guard. I would like to see more of what newcomers and younger people think of these differences. I enjoy the re-imagining, its easy to think "this is how you appeal to a broader relevant audience" but I really don't think some of it was well thought out.
Kuuhazan soooo that’d be the vast majority then. So far, this game is my GOTY and I’m not ashamed to say that. Did you really want them to make the same thing, beat by beat, shot by shot, but look better? It’s a REMAKE, not a REMASTER.
Kuuhazan that’s your opinion and I respect it. Let’s agree to disagree. It’s my GOTY for now. TLOU 2 and Ghosts of Tsushima are my two next anticipated games so I’ll see if either, or both, will be better in my opinion ☺️
The remake definitely did a great job of making you more attached to Jessie, Wedge and Biggs. As in the original I didnt really feel anything for their death.
But then they ended up surviving, so it cheapened this whole scene, I think. Jessie might even be still alive, since Biggs was basically just as fucked as her.
@@blacksunapocalypse **SPOILERRRRRRRR BELOW*** And that cheap "hey, we killed Barret but not really cuz fate winkwink" moment was pretty tasteless too. Also I think the whispers killed Wedge because he evaded fate once and this time no one was there to save him. Yet they can't invade Biggs' room at the orphanage and do the same while he's wounded and defenseless?
@@blacksunapocalypse For me, seeing characters that I like survive is more impactful than watching them die all over again. I wouldn't be interested in the Remake trilogy if they weren't changing things like that. The original VII was/is my least favorite Final Fantasy (that I've played, so VI-XIII) because so many characters that I liked died. It was depressing and pointless. Remake is hopeful.
From what I've played this has by far been the best scene in the remake. Incredibly true to the original while also adding a lot dramatically and emotionally.
I'm not much of a purist but the original did this part better and I was disappointed in the Remake version. It's kind of a shame that Remake leaned so heavily into the whispers/fate ghost stuff, and not letting characters actually die bc apparently everything has to be made for Disney-brained kids. The fate ghosts are all over this section in Remake acting as really invasive, derailing deus ex machina in practically every cutscene. Even the plate being dropped at the end is made a direct result of fate ghosts interfering. Any or all of this stuff could have just happened how it happened; they had to insert reasons into the sequence for fate to interfere and force things to happen and it was so heavy-handed. Tifa's whole part was screwed up; first she's rushing ahead to reach the pillar in the previous chapter but then you get there and she inexplicably stays behind to... give Aerith moral support healing Wedge, leaving Cloud to go it alone. In the original Aerith stays behind and Cloud and Tifa proceed, which did not need to be changed. By the end Tifa gets turned into a weak-willed mess who has to be dragged to safety by Cloud, then in the aftermath when Barret is breaking down she's like "we did this" after her friends just fought and died to try to prevent it and all I could think was "stfu b****." Jessie's death is implied to be a direct result of fate ghosts which was totally uncalled for. Biggs & Jessie's "death" scenes are drawn out to a melodramatic degree to try to wring out every ounce of pathos. They recreate the harrowing shot of the plate dropping from directly above leading to unavoidable certain death, but they do it with Wedge instead of the poignancy of a civilian only to immediately turn around and reveal that Wedge miraculously survived. The scene with President Shinra is also much more effective in the original even in blocky PSX graphics. They practically Disneyfied a brazen act of mass murder, complete with an unnecessary cameo of an anthropomorphic cat plushie (which could have come later). Some of the added details were nice but most of it was fate ghosts. I'm also still not over the fact that the compilation gives redemption arcs to most of the Turks including Reno & Rude, who personally dropped the plate knowing it would kill tens of thousands. There's no redemption for being a fascist sociopath mass murderer, it doesnt matter if you're actually kind of a cool guy or whatever.
@@mediumvillain everything *new* in the remake is pure fan fiction. and you're totally right. not only do they have to show the shinra president but he also needs to get in a facial expression to show the viewer his ~extended remake personality~ thus distilling the focused energy of the original... this fan fiction shit always happens when tetsuya nomura is put in charge of the feeling of a project. a lot of this remake is awesome like the reimagining of enemy designs, but man oh man are the Nomura-isms just all over the place when it comes the new stuff added in the remake. I mean not a single thing added has been good. Maybe Roche is okay.
It’s not, I love it but remake is definitely better lol
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Sonic Mania The remake is fine, but it changes some of the original music so much that it loses all its impact and grandeur. Too much of an attempt to try and modernise it instead of just going full on orchestrated original soundtrack.
Midi soundtracks always seem catchier and always seem more primal/colder which suits FFVII, the melody is at the forefront, orchestra often feels indulgent, too much noise.
in this version i like that Reno didn't activate the platform dislodge but let it ready for who ever mess with the control panel next be responsible to activate the collapse of the pillar, so inadvertently Tifa was the one who cause the downfall of the pillar. meaning that at the end it was true "in a way of speaking" that avalanche was responsible for the pillar to be destroy. Also was logic to think sector 7 slums where totally bury under the upper plate of sector 7 making it totally inaccessible forever. In the remake this was possible but really didn't make any sense to me. sector 7 slums should had been totally bury under tons of metal and concrete the upper plate rubble represent, also not only the people of the slum die, the people on the upper plate also die and we could see that in the cut scene
The remake just proves that even though they are LEGO’s the story telling matters more than the presentation. In the remake they make you feel sad but then Shinra is like so many people escaped and they never give you an idea of how many people actually died and everyone you met in the game is also alive so it’s like I guess at least person we knew died in this game you know nope everyone died
Just saw this scene in the remake, and god, this one still feels so much more... brutal? Like it just happens, you're powerless to do anything and you don't even feel like there's hope, and seeing the whole plate just fall like that rather than watching it crumble across a bunch of cuts was just so much harsher. Like you really FELT how big and bad it was in this one. Absolutely no hate on the remake here, mind, just can't help feeling how much harder this one hit
@@CrimRui That’s not true, while a good amount of people in the slums escaped, what about the deeper parts of the slums and the upper plate? A LOT of people still died
Loved the remake, and there´re parts from it that of course are better than the original and vice versa, but showing Sephiroth too soon in the remake and making us fight him like if it was the final battle already when we´re first leaving Midgar, was a big fail for me, unless they´re going to surprise us in the future.
Just got done playing the FFVII remake demo for the fourth time. I can't believe we are only a month away from seeing the best game ever completely re-imagined and updated in epic fashion!
¥SinSouless死 great character development, and addresses topics that few games ha e conceded prior or since. It also has a more mature theme. It hasn’t been as well publicized as final fantasy but I strongly suggest you give it a try - you will not be disappointed.
Meant to say covered prior or since. Xenogears was released in 1998. Its distant game cousins Xenosaga 1, 2, and 3 are based in the same universe. Also solid games in their own right. I would play Xenogears first and then the saga afterward.
well i have to give the remake credit they certainally made the fall of sector 7 really dramatic and yes that is a good thing. :) like honestly the fall of sector 7 felt extremely emotional and intense well a lot more then this did. but then sector 7 felt way more fleshed out then the orginal made it seem. not to mention it takes way longer to do this scene as took about 10-15 min. where in the remake it was at least an hour long maybe more.
I just finished playing this part on the remake. I knew it was coming. I knew what was gunna happen. But I still wasn’t ready for it. #ThatShitHurted 😢
just played this in the remake, and woah. it was so cool but the way the whole plate just dropped down in the og instead of pieces of it falling down really made it more intimidating imo. just one big chunk of metal falling down where you couldnt possibly run away from
Squaresoft: people die. There’s blood on the Shinra floor and sephiroth massacres everyone. The president's dead with Sephiroth’s sword in him when you get to him, and you realise there's a whole other mysterious bad guy. Squareenix: people live or come back to life. There's no blood and no massacre. The president gets to give a long evil speech before he does. We already know who the main bad guy is. I liked the remake, but I wish they weren’t so tame with some things.
tbf they said they changed it in the remake to not get an m/18+ rating. they made some questionable choices near the end but that part specifically is the cero/esrb’s fault
Sephiroth had one of the best introductions in villain history. Square Enix had no chance of recreating something at that level. Especially not in this era
Man, I still hear the voices of the Remake cast while watching this (again). They really found the perfect voice actors for each character. Now I can't wait to see what Vincent, Yuffie and Cid will sound like.
I thought it was a lot tamer. So many people escaped (all the main ones, of course), Biggs and Wedge lived, maybe even Jessie. The plate didnt even flatten Sector 7 slums, just trashed it up a little more.. There were still buildings even standing :/
Not really, they pussed out. Biggs and possibly Wedge are still alive, many people were evacuated before the fall. Also the cheesy ass voice acting takes away from it.
I really really hope there's a way we can save them in the remake. It would be devastating seeing them die again, I couldn't even handle it when playing the original :(
@@holitinne Not really, you couldn't choose their demise in the first place. They'd always die whichever action you took. It would be nice to have something similar to the Suicide Mission in Mass Effect 2, for instance.
Man I hate how they did this scene in the remake. It's like the helicopters are up there taking pot shots at Barret and co for an hour and a half while you do a shitty ghost train sidequest that didn't need to be there. Then Aerith/Tifa spend twenty minutes with an injured Wedge at the bottom waiting for Cloud before deciding to help rescue Marlene/civilians, only for her to slowly make her way to Seventh Heaven to rescue Marlene. All urgency is completely removed from this moment because they're building up to it for like an hour and a half of game time. This happens to so many moments from the original FFVII; great moments that get stretched to hell and back because they needed to pad out important story bits for no reason. The interactions with Biggs, Wedge and Jesse are great, but it takes so long to get there when the original did this entire thing in fifteen minutes.
Disagree (albeit years later), because once Tifa can confirm Wedge is OK, they actually get more people to safety, which is a big deal considering Shinra *wanted* to be even more of a disaster. Showing off how this all worked out differently is important. Plus, Barret’s also taking potshots back, and it shows more than just Biggs and Jessie were on the pillar, which makes way more sense if you think about it. One chopper with a gun against just Barret the whole time, and you’re right. However, if the chopper needed to fight off multiple people, and make it a desperate struggle for survival, it takes more than just the one chopper and won’t be over so quickly. The tension building and giving you hope (especially given how Aerith knows what’s happening and Tifa constantly trying to figure out if we can stop this so as a player, you think “maybe this will be the changeover point in Remake!” and struggle to stop the plate from falling), all to culminate in the plate falling anyhow and your friends are still presumed dead, really adds the lasting impact of futility and adds fuel to the fire for hating Shinra. As it stands for most people, you don’t just kill off characters you know willy nilly, or else it makes death in the narrative feel cheap. We spent a lot of time with these characters, they deserve the full send-off and struggle to save them. Besides, given how strong you’re supposed to be, it’s not supposed to be longer than like 20-30 minutes of in-game time anyhow from when you actually reach the pillar. So it’s the same at the end, and Barret was already fighting the chopper for who knows how long before you actually got there in the original. TL;DR: the Whispers may make some things feel silly, but this scene was still done very well in showing the actual tension and how high the stakes can go.
What?? I love the OG but the Remake made thia scene much more sadder. In here you don't feel that bad for Jessie and in the Remake they made us love her since the beginning of the game.
@@cangri1788 Yeah some parts, but they fucked it up by letting half of them live. Also, Cat Sith appearing ruins the tension during the collapse. Not to mention many people got out of Sector 7.
Goddamn this whole section does everything right. The sadness you feel after escaping sector 7 when On that day 5 years ago starts playing is unmatched.
I remember they were a bunch of nobody for me when i was a kid playing this game on my psp. Now the remake they became one of the best characters in the game.
Also considering it seems they gave her a lot of focus in the remake, same with Biggs and Wedge but they turned her interest in Cloud here into full-on thirst in the remake, giving it a more romance angle in a way.
Jessie totally blows in the Remake lol like sure if you're some sexually frustrated teenager you'd find her clingy behavior cute. Normal people find her annoying AF! Biggs and Wedge were awesome though.
Finally! Thank goodness. Everybody is like "I ship Jessie and Cloud now." Or "Jessie is best girl" and I'm over here wanting to skip every scene with her in it cuz she annoys me so much
Man...I haven't gotten to this portion in the remake yet. But just able to see the slums up close and the people and the environment down there. Not to mention building relationships with Wedge, Biggs and Jessie more so than the original plus the people down in S7, I know seeing this in the remake is gonna hit hard. :(
This whole scene scared the fuck out of me and I just started playing this game. I finally just started to really love tifa and aerith as characters then this shit happens. Almost started crying after seeing barret break down. I couldn't even keep my stomach together after this to keep playing, saved and quit asap.
SPOILERS for remake The original did this so much better. The fact that Biggs, Wedge, and maybe even Jessie survived really ruins the whole plate falling. And that so many of the towns people escaped. It took away the devastating feeling I got from the original.. Not to mention how, in the remake, you can still walk around in the slums and somehow still see buildings standing? An entire plate falls on the slums, and it looks more like a damn hurricane blew through it than anything else.
watch this video and 1 hr into it Stage 4 Theory really explains the remake well. th-cam.com/video/Rfgw7iDZ-bo/w-d-xo.html 2 Timelines, alternate timeline where Zack lives, Biggs survives. This is where I hope the story goes, and the guy makes all the links to suggest it is what is happening.
I don't know for some reason in the remake it doesn't seem as catastrophic. I mean yes their deaths are but the plate fall doesn't seem quite nearly as bad in the remake... It just looks like some buildings fell down or something instead of an entire subsection of a city
Remake is a sequel so things don't happen exactly the same as the original because Sephiroth from the future and ghosts trying to preserve the timeline intervene.
@@XFactor1111 Well I know all of that but I'm just saying that it doesn't look like an entire plate fell. There's no way that they would be able to just walk over to where the bar was
All of the tragedy from the original is chipped away in the remake when most of the citizens were evacuated and Biggs and Wedge live through it. Who knows, Jessie might be alive after all too.
After having played through this part with the remake I can honestly say I am severely disappointed. I am at a loss of words for how they (imo) butchered this iconic scene completely. I remember when I first arrived here some twenty years ago, hearing the epic music along with the gunshots and feeling my adrenaline rise. Something big was happening, the fight with Shinra was on for real. All I wanted to do was rush to the top of the pillar and help them fight. On the way up it was sad to see Wedge, Biggs and Jesse in their final moments but I didn't have time to either grieve or reminisce because Barret was still up top fighting. Now I understand that since they chose to focus more on the other members of Avalanche for the remake they thought it fitting to give them a "proper" death. But it bothers me that in doing so they completely changed the entire tone of this event. There's a time and place for mourning, but in the middle of an ongoing battle hardly seems like the right moment. Also, the dialogues with both Jesse and Biggs are way too long and don't feel realistic nor appropriate given what's at stake. The music is also completely different, perhaps more befitting of the sadder tone they chose to run with, but to me that just takes the edge off the fight completely. I had been looking forward to this scene especially because the remade version of "Those who fight" is one of the few soundtracks I feel they did better than the original... but instead they freaking ended up skipping it altogether. Sigh. And to top it of they even have you play Aeris and search for Marlene in the midst of it of it all, whom truthfully I could care very little about. What a let down :(.
Agree with you 100% you’re spot on, I associate ‘those who fight’ with this part of the game as it was so iconic. Big mistake replacing it with a random new track. It was drawn out way too much. I loved the remake but the pillar collapse did not live up to the expectation.
I agree 100% man. They butchered this scene along with alot of other ones. But when they need to stretch a game to 40+ hours when it should be 4 hours... you start to understand why they did what they did. And they did it at the expense of an already well done set piece. All they had to do was make it look better with today's technology... but keep the same pace and tone. Even if it's just for THIS scene... but no. They showed everyone practically survived. Much of sector 7's citizens survived. I mean, are we really sad that their already-dilapidated home was destroyed? lol. It was supposed to be sudden, hectic, adrenaline inducing. The area before (trainyard) just sucked the life outta me. Again, more padding they needed to add in order to stretch the game... and AGAIN this is all at the expense of story and delivery.
I prefer the fall of the plate here over remake.Here everything goes silent when the plate is dropping which is much more atmospheric and darker.I also like the scene inside house where TV loses signal and you can see in the window how the plate is going lower(this small scene isnt in remake) which almost looks like end of the world.Also the president shinras scene playing opera music.
@@XFactor1111 I know but a lot of the scenes are still same and those watchmen of fate (or whatever they are called) are trying to make sure everything stays same within original timeline until you eventually defeat them in the end.So technically it should be same as in original until the ending.
Yeah the atmosphere in the original was a lot better imo with the silence and classical music. The remake made it kinda corny with the music and when Cait Sith was randomly shown lol
@@TheRon701 Yeah I saw some streamers who never played original react to Cait Sith appearance and they were like "WTF is that?" which killed the dramatic moment of the scene.
I always assumed Wedge didn't die in the original FF7, I mean he falls then talks to you meaning he was still very much alive, and then goes unconscious, as in the video Aerith then kneels next to him seemingly patching him up and says she'll handle this plus there's been people in RL that have survived falls from planes so its not wrong to assume you could survive a fall like that given he landed on dirt and not concrete, now its very unlikely she would have left an injured person on the floor without asking him to be taken to safety before grabbing Marlene, Cloud and co. then assume he died and Aerith you don't meet again until later and given everything that's going on (potential cross species breeding?) its only natural she wouldn't bring it up again given he is just a side character plus the group wouldn't mention it as they believe he's dead after which they leave Midgar so you'd never have the chance to run into him, all in all you never actually see him die in the original so the remake may just be confirming what was never verified, or that's my OP anyway
Interesting... technically from this clip we cant say biggs,wedge n jessie died here. Usually when a character dies it will either say "he's dead" or "..." when u try to talk to them. But they keep speaking (granted same dialogue). So STRICTLY FROM THIS SCENE it's not confirmed that they are dead.
@@j0sH092 huh....hello?, Have you Been living under a Boulder or something? Since 2015 everybody knows that ff7 remake was going to be released as "episodes" the ff7 remake released this year it's "chapter 1"...
There are purists everywhere telling how bad the remake is. Not sure abou them, but the revamped version if this scene was waaaay better in my opinion.
I like Remake, and I like its handling of the characters and the plate fall better for the most part, but there are just two little aspects of the original I liked more there. 1. I like how in the original you see President Shinra just watching it all unfold from up on high while chilling with some opera music or whatever. Makes you hate him even more than you already did. 2. In Remake, it just keep playing action music the whole time the plate is exploding and falling. Here in the original I thought it was much more powerful that the music went silent and all you heard were the sounds. To be fair, every single port of the original (PC/PS4/Switch etc) messed this up and also just keeps playing the music during that FMV...
I've played this lots of times and have to admit the remake did it better. They gave so much character development to those guys that it hurt so much to watch them die.
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*Wedge fell hundreds of feet from the ground*
Cloud: Wedge are you all right!?
Wedge: Hmm... I don't know Cloud. Do I look all right to you?
Wedge : s'all good bro
He will bounce back... look he’s talking already... nah he’d be splattered from the fall
Ardra Agatama Cloud: I’m not your bro
That would be like walking up to a 9/11 jumper that just landed from the 100th floor.
“Oh my gosh, sir are you ok?”
@@HyeeRasydan Cloud could act like a cold heartless jerk on the old FF7 lol
I just face that on the remake and cried like a little baby? anyone watching this after the remake?
Right at this moment
Ardra Agatama me too currently at chapter 14
Me.
No tears needed my friend 😜
Just finished this chapter.. Felt bad for biggs and Jessie
The lastest FF7 Remake trailer showed us Jessie, Wedge, Biggs... I immediately thought of this scene... It will definitely brings tears...
+Shade815 lol same
same :'(
Back then I totally forgot they died in this scene, and wondered mid games why didn't they join the gang.
In the remake their will be really sad since they won't be voiceless chunks of low polygons. We human only emphasize with what we can relate.
Lol
Trust me its amazing
4:03 Relatable thought process: "Let's try both options... oh, better end with the positive option, don't want to be an asshole."
This made my laugh, i would do the same like it matters
@@foxfire1112 of course it matters, even if it doesnt.
Lmao I always do that
10:36 Wow, I think they did the original better than the Remake for this part. Seeing a clear view of the whole plate coming down like that is fucking terrifying
Agree..loved the remake but thought this part was done way better here
Especially considering how Cait Sith completely ruins the tension in his little needless cameo.
Agree, I think it was also a big mistake not having the main FF7 battle/fighting music and replacing it with a new track, didn’t have the same impact
@@rey_s90 I disagree wtih that. I think the new music captured the emotion really well.
That one part I agree but the aftermath with Barrett mourning is way better in the remake
Who else came back after the remake ;(
Same. God damn this remake is really hard on your feels. You end up loving all the characters and how much they develop. And for them to be snuffed our this way is just so much.
Miguel Angel Medina Rise if only.
Yeah I came back to this after that awful music they used in 7R for this section.
I came back because I was pretty sure Jessie falls from the pillar too. I was wrong lol
@@MiguelRPD Spoiler!
Watch the final cutscene closely! The scene right before Marlene calls out after her daddy.
I played this moment in the remake last night. I knew I needed to watch the original to remind myself of it. Shows that even in blocky graphics a story can have huge emotional heft.
they JUST dont make em like they used to
The remake fucking sucked.
So much more ominous and darker than the remake..
Wish they did 1:1 on this bit
They made the deaths of Jesse, wedge and Biggs more powerful in the remake and the fire and crashing was painful
@@jeffreyali1456 Lol. They didn't die in the Remake aside from Jessie. Also the Disney sing along of the people of Sector 7 really ruined the aspect of this whole scene being pretty dark, tragic and evil.
@@Xxandrew01 Jesse and wedge died (later on for wedge), plus some people on the slums and pretty much everyone on top. And it was still pretty evil for the shinra corp to do that. And Disney sing along? Now your just exaggerating for no reason. It was still pretty ominous. Maybe not as much as the original given that more people died and all, but certainly not ruined so relax lol
@@jeffreyali1456 Yes it was ruined. It felt like no one really cared to the Sector 7 plate dropped killing so many in the remake, where as the original it truly was a moment of shock and anger for all the characters involved in it that survived it. It was in fact ruined in the remake.
Damn, I can hear their voices
idol!!!
......you're not alone.
Fancy meeting you here
Same
It’s actually the song lol!
Jessie's death was sad yes, but didn't expect Bigg's death to be sadder in the remake. Biggs padding Cloud's hair like a lil boi... such a mature side of Biggs.
And yes, I read plenty of spoiler Bigg's is alive at the end, just in case you spoilers are out there.
Biggs ran an orphanage
To see all this come to life after 23 days was such a treat and the voice acting behind it, damn I had a tear man this scene was powerful. I am not ready to see aeirith die in the remake
It will be sad to see Jessie die like this in the remake, these last words are really sad.
She still died tho
@@artyomxiii But did she really? Somehow even Biggs survived, which made absolutely no sense.
They needed to die. That's what would've made it so terrible. Just like Aerith needs to die, but who knows what they'll do with that.
@@blacksunapocalypse yes those 3 people still died at sector 7 tower
@@artyomxiii Biggs and Wedge survived. Maybe Jessie too, it's hinted at.
@@blacksunapocalypse really? 🤔 Hmm.. all those sad pity cutscenes are for nothing then. This isn't disney who only the villain died. I hate they chose this new timeline. Gonna be so messed up later.
damn i just did this in the ff7 remake and came here to see what the original was like. insane how true they stayed to the story while added more to it. incredibly done
They added too much I think. The remake feels too drawn out and corny, removing all the subtlety of the original
the original has real loss. the new one has all this michael bay shit happening and doesn't show even that iconic view of the plate falling right on top of you. It didn't need to disintegrate and explode that doesn't even make sense, it just needed the doom and peril of dropping right onto the poor favelas, just like the original showed.
I'm not trying to be someone that can't enjoy the new game because of differences, I had honestly forgot these specific scenes and only remembering how it made me feel. and the original has some important distinctions:
Shinra looks competent and just plain apathetic to people's lives.
In the remake, Shinra looks incompetent. All their robots fail. Their soldiers defect because they empathize with refugees. We empathise with Shinra as just an oil/energy company that doesn't see the perspective of Avalanche. Everyone evacuates. The party winds up in random rubble, instead of at that playground (the cut scene in the remake shows the playground, way to go!). The original even shows a glimpse of the middle class on top of the plate being caught off guard.
I would like to see more of what newcomers and younger people think of these differences.
I enjoy the re-imagining, its easy to think "this is how you appeal to a broader relevant audience" but I really don't think some of it was well thought out.
@Kuuhazan You are the one true gamer. ALL HAIL KUUHAZAN, THE ONE TRUE GAMER. I bow to you sir.
Kuuhazan soooo that’d be the vast majority then. So far, this game is my GOTY and I’m not ashamed to say that. Did you really want them to make the same thing, beat by beat, shot by shot, but look better? It’s a REMAKE, not a REMASTER.
Kuuhazan that’s your opinion and I respect it. Let’s agree to disagree. It’s my GOTY for now. TLOU 2 and Ghosts of Tsushima are my two next anticipated games so I’ll see if either, or both, will be better in my opinion ☺️
The remake definitely did a great job of making you more attached to Jessie, Wedge and Biggs. As in the original I didnt really feel anything for their death.
But then they ended up surviving, so it cheapened this whole scene, I think. Jessie might even be still alive, since Biggs was basically just as fucked as her.
@@blacksunapocalypse **SPOILERRRRRRRR BELOW***
And that cheap "hey, we killed Barret but not really cuz fate winkwink" moment was pretty tasteless too. Also I think the whispers killed Wedge because he evaded fate once and this time no one was there to save him. Yet they can't invade Biggs' room at the orphanage and do the same while he's wounded and defenseless?
@Jennifer56 Jessie's headband and gloves were next to Biggs' bed.
you just go “oh no” and then continue on
@@blacksunapocalypse For me, seeing characters that I like survive is more impactful than watching them die all over again. I wouldn't be interested in the Remake trilogy if they weren't changing things like that. The original VII was/is my least favorite Final Fantasy (that I've played, so VI-XIII) because so many characters that I liked died. It was depressing and pointless. Remake is hopeful.
*Tseng:* "Only a Shinta Executive can set up or disarm the Emergency Plate Release System".
*Me:* "If only a certain cat was there on time".
Everything about this game and remake is beautiful
From what I've played this has by far been the best scene in the remake. Incredibly true to the original while also adding a lot dramatically and emotionally.
Yeah, but fucking it up with plot ghosts and almost everyone surviving towards the end...
@@CrimRui most people still died
@@williamchuba9397 not the people that mattered tho. They make you care about Jess, Biggs and wedge just so they can let them live
I'm not much of a purist but the original did this part better and I was disappointed in the Remake version. It's kind of a shame that Remake leaned so heavily into the whispers/fate ghost stuff, and not letting characters actually die bc apparently everything has to be made for Disney-brained kids.
The fate ghosts are all over this section in Remake acting as really invasive, derailing deus ex machina in practically every cutscene. Even the plate being dropped at the end is made a direct result of fate ghosts interfering. Any or all of this stuff could have just happened how it happened; they had to insert reasons into the sequence for fate to interfere and force things to happen and it was so heavy-handed.
Tifa's whole part was screwed up; first she's rushing ahead to reach the pillar in the previous chapter but then you get there and she inexplicably stays behind to... give Aerith moral support healing Wedge, leaving Cloud to go it alone. In the original Aerith stays behind and Cloud and Tifa proceed, which did not need to be changed. By the end Tifa gets turned into a weak-willed mess who has to be dragged to safety by Cloud, then in the aftermath when Barret is breaking down she's like "we did this" after her friends just fought and died to try to prevent it and all I could think was "stfu b****."
Jessie's death is implied to be a direct result of fate ghosts which was totally uncalled for. Biggs & Jessie's "death" scenes are drawn out to a melodramatic degree to try to wring out every ounce of pathos. They recreate the harrowing shot of the plate dropping from directly above leading to unavoidable certain death, but they do it with Wedge instead of the poignancy of a civilian only to immediately turn around and reveal that Wedge miraculously survived.
The scene with President Shinra is also much more effective in the original even in blocky PSX graphics. They practically Disneyfied a brazen act of mass murder, complete with an unnecessary cameo of an anthropomorphic cat plushie (which could have come later). Some of the added details were nice but most of it was fate ghosts.
I'm also still not over the fact that the compilation gives redemption arcs to most of the Turks including Reno & Rude, who personally dropped the plate knowing it would kill tens of thousands. There's no redemption for being a fascist sociopath mass murderer, it doesnt matter if you're actually kind of a cool guy or whatever.
@@mediumvillain everything *new* in the remake is pure fan fiction. and you're totally right. not only do they have to show the shinra president but he also needs to get in a facial expression to show the viewer his ~extended remake personality~ thus distilling the focused energy of the original... this fan fiction shit always happens when tetsuya nomura is put in charge of the feeling of a project.
a lot of this remake is awesome like the reimagining of enemy designs, but man oh man are the Nomura-isms just all over the place when it comes the new stuff added in the remake. I mean not a single thing added has been good. Maybe Roche is okay.
Damn squenix really gave this chapter justice in the remake
Who else is here after going thru this part in the 2020 remake?
This was by far my favorite moment of midgar. The battle for sector 7
I don’t know why... but the sound track is so much better in this game... really hits you in the feels
J J A lot of the remake’s songs are hot garbage in comparison. There’s some epic stuff though.
It’s not, I love it but remake is definitely better lol
Sonic Mania The remake is fine, but it changes some of the original music so much that it loses all its impact and grandeur. Too much of an attempt to try and modernise it instead of just going full on orchestrated original soundtrack.
Midi soundtracks always seem catchier and always seem more primal/colder which suits FFVII, the melody is at the forefront, orchestra often feels indulgent, too much noise.
It is....
I don't wanna see this scene in the remake. The pain
It's already happened
@@furiousphoenix9784 Yeah, and it´s far more touching.
You’d be surprised if you beat game
They made it a LOT more PG in the remake.
@@blacksunapocalypse seriously. Being able to come back to the sector was completely stupid.
I'm here after watching this part on the remake
Me trying to embrace the pain
Same
This is going to hit hard once the remake releases. Those heroes dying and suffering
in this version i like that Reno didn't activate the platform dislodge but let it ready for who ever mess with the control panel next be responsible to activate the collapse of the pillar, so inadvertently Tifa was the one who cause the downfall of the pillar. meaning that at the end it was true "in a way of speaking" that avalanche was responsible for the pillar to be destroy.
Also was logic to think sector 7 slums where totally bury under the upper plate of sector 7 making it totally inaccessible forever. In the remake this was possible but really didn't make any sense to me. sector 7 slums should had been totally bury under tons of metal and concrete the upper plate rubble represent, also not only the people of the slum die, the people on the upper plate also die and we could see that in the cut scene
I just finished this part in the remake... If this was bad, I can't imagine once its Aerith's scene.. TAKE MY GOD DAMN PHOENIX DOWN!!!!!
Phoenix Down revives knockouts. Not permanent death.
@@XFactor1111 She could still talk. Could have used cure.
rip jessie well carry on your legacy
Played this part on the remake and actually cried. I knew their fate, but cared so much for Biggs, Wedge, and especially Jessie.
But they lived in the remake though
The remake just proves that even though they are LEGO’s the story telling matters more than the presentation. In the remake they make you feel sad but then Shinra is like so many people escaped and they never give you an idea of how many people actually died and everyone you met in the game is also alive so it’s like I guess at least person we knew died in this game you know nope everyone died
I’ll never forget the first time I saw the plate drop
Just saw this scene in the remake, and god, this one still feels so much more... brutal? Like it just happens, you're powerless to do anything and you don't even feel like there's hope, and seeing the whole plate just fall like that rather than watching it crumble across a bunch of cuts was just so much harsher. Like you really FELT how big and bad it was in this one.
Absolutely no hate on the remake here, mind, just can't help feeling how much harder this one hit
remake occurs on a different timeline.
Maybe but the actual build-up to the collapse gives so much more depth and emotion leading up to the collapse in the remake
It's like kicking the 4 legs out from under a table here, brutal.
Yeah, this is more brutal. Almost everyone survive in Remake.
@@CrimRui That’s not true, while a good amount of people in the slums escaped, what about the deeper parts of the slums and the upper plate? A LOT of people still died
Here after playing the remake... damn this scene was amazing! The did a really good job!
Loved the remake, and there´re parts from it that of course are better than the original and vice versa, but showing Sephiroth too soon in the remake and making us fight him like if it was the final battle already when we´re first leaving Midgar, was a big fail for me, unless they´re going to surprise us in the future.
@@theboltthrower8661 everyone knows who Sephiroth is at this point though so it really isn’t that much of a suspense
Just got done playing the FFVII remake demo for the fourth time. I can't believe we are only a month away from seeing the best game ever completely re-imagined and updated in epic fashion!
Greatest story ever told
venom5610 a great story? Absolutely.
The greatest story? I’d give that one to Xenogears.
@@optimumultimaomega i dont kno about xenogears but why? in ur opinion. id say devil may cry 3, kingdom hearts 2, or witcher 3
¥SinSouless死 great character development, and addresses topics that few games ha e conceded prior or since. It also has a more mature theme. It hasn’t been as well publicized as final fantasy but I strongly suggest you give it a try - you will not be disappointed.
Meant to say covered prior or since. Xenogears was released in 1998. Its distant game cousins Xenosaga 1, 2, and 3 are based in the same universe. Also solid games in their own right. I would play Xenogears first and then the saga afterward.
@@optimumultimaomega alright thanks. im guessin the only real way to play is with emulation
I like how faithful they remained in the remake. Even the option to open the menu before the boss fight is there.
well i have to give the remake credit they certainally made the fall of sector 7 really dramatic and yes that is a good thing. :) like honestly the fall of sector 7 felt extremely emotional and intense well a lot more then this did. but then sector 7 felt way more fleshed out then the orginal made it seem. not to mention it takes way longer to do this scene as took about 10-15 min. where in the remake it was at least an hour long maybe more.
I just finished playing this part on the remake. I knew it was coming. I knew what was gunna happen. But I still wasn’t ready for it. #ThatShitHurted 😢
just played this in the remake, and woah. it was so cool but the way the whole plate just dropped down in the og instead of pieces of it falling down really made it more intimidating imo. just one big chunk of metal falling down where you couldnt possibly run away from
welp Wedge is gonna be a stain on the ground on the remake unless they change it so they live
He used a fricking grappling gun at the last second and fell few feet
Painful but he lived
@@guts-141 and completely recovered not long after.
@@blacksunapocalypse he tried to help back at Shinra building but those Whispers tried to drag him out because he was never supposed to be there
@@guts-141 Although they were with him when the plate was crashing. I assumed they intervened there so he wouldn't die? :P
Er… about that…
Squaresoft: people die. There’s blood on the Shinra floor and sephiroth massacres everyone. The president's dead with Sephiroth’s sword in him when you get to him, and you realise there's a whole other mysterious bad guy.
Squareenix: people live or come back to life. There's no blood and no massacre. The president gets to give a long evil speech before he does. We already know who the main bad guy is.
I liked the remake, but I wish they weren’t so tame with some things.
tbf they said they changed it in the remake to not get an m/18+ rating. they made some questionable choices near the end but that part specifically is the cero/esrb’s fault
Sephiroth had one of the best introductions in villain history. Square Enix had no chance of recreating something at that level. Especially not in this era
This theme music really doesn't get old
Wow they recreated this well.
This is all sort of trivialized by the whole “whispers of fate” concept. Why even be sad? Doesn’t matter in Dragonball Z 7
Man, I still hear the voices of the Remake cast while watching this (again). They really found the perfect voice actors for each character. Now I can't wait to see what Vincent, Yuffie and Cid will sound like.
The remake was waaaaaay sadder, I almost cried with the desperation screams from Barret (I love the Remake)
I thought it was a lot tamer. So many people escaped (all the main ones, of course), Biggs and Wedge lived, maybe even Jessie. The plate didnt even flatten Sector 7 slums, just trashed it up a little more..
There were still buildings even standing :/
Not really, they pussed out. Biggs and possibly Wedge are still alive, many people were evacuated before the fall. Also the cheesy ass voice acting takes away from it.
Remake Barret reaction was so touchin'... Jessie, Biggs and Wedge's death's were too... that trio was amazing...
The way it just falls like that instead of crumbling is terrifying
With how likable Avalanche is in the demo, especially Jessie, this is gonna fucking hurt in the remastered version.
I really really hope there's a way we can save them in the remake. It would be devastating seeing them die again, I couldn't even handle it when playing the original :(
Some_Crazy_Dude I hope not. Their demise motivates the player to evaluate their actions.
nope!
@@holitinne Not really, you couldn't choose their demise in the first place. They'd always die whichever action you took. It would be nice to have something similar to the Suicide Mission in Mass Effect 2, for instance.
Kohmelo what are you talking about?
Nothing can beat the original I love the remake but there is just something charming the scenery the map everything is just perfect
I played the remake demo and I really liked wedges design and voice I going to hate seeing him go
BlessXnase have you played the part already ?
Man I hate how they did this scene in the remake. It's like the helicopters are up there taking pot shots at Barret and co for an hour and a half while you do a shitty ghost train sidequest that didn't need to be there. Then Aerith/Tifa spend twenty minutes with an injured Wedge at the bottom waiting for Cloud before deciding to help rescue Marlene/civilians, only for her to slowly make her way to Seventh Heaven to rescue Marlene. All urgency is completely removed from this moment because they're building up to it for like an hour and a half of game time. This happens to so many moments from the original FFVII; great moments that get stretched to hell and back because they needed to pad out important story bits for no reason. The interactions with Biggs, Wedge and Jesse are great, but it takes so long to get there when the original did this entire thing in fifteen minutes.
Disagree (albeit years later), because once Tifa can confirm Wedge is OK, they actually get more people to safety, which is a big deal considering Shinra *wanted* to be even more of a disaster. Showing off how this all worked out differently is important. Plus, Barret’s also taking potshots back, and it shows more than just Biggs and Jessie were on the pillar, which makes way more sense if you think about it. One chopper with a gun against just Barret the whole time, and you’re right. However, if the chopper needed to fight off multiple people, and make it a desperate struggle for survival, it takes more than just the one chopper and won’t be over so quickly. The tension building and giving you hope (especially given how Aerith knows what’s happening and Tifa constantly trying to figure out if we can stop this so as a player, you think “maybe this will be the changeover point in Remake!” and struggle to stop the plate from falling), all to culminate in the plate falling anyhow and your friends are still presumed dead, really adds the lasting impact of futility and adds fuel to the fire for hating Shinra. As it stands for most people, you don’t just kill off characters you know willy nilly, or else it makes death in the narrative feel cheap. We spent a lot of time with these characters, they deserve the full send-off and struggle to save them. Besides, given how strong you’re supposed to be, it’s not supposed to be longer than like 20-30 minutes of in-game time anyhow from when you actually reach the pillar. So it’s the same at the end, and Barret was already fighting the chopper for who knows how long before you actually got there in the original.
TL;DR: the Whispers may make some things feel silly, but this scene was still done very well in showing the actual tension and how high the stakes can go.
This version of the scene is much better then the remake
What?? I love the OG but the Remake made thia scene much more sadder. In here you don't feel that bad for Jessie and in the Remake they made us love her since the beginning of the game.
@@cangri1788 Yeah some parts, but they fucked it up by letting half of them live. Also, Cat Sith appearing ruins the tension during the collapse. Not to mention many people got out of Sector 7.
Goddamn this whole section does everything right. The sadness you feel after escaping sector 7 when On that day 5 years ago starts playing is unmatched.
I remember they were a bunch of nobody for me when i was a kid playing this game on my psp. Now the remake they became one of the best characters in the game.
Bit cold of you folks to dismiss Wedge and Biggs over Jesse.
Most people who make those comments are simps what do you expect
Also considering it seems they gave her a lot of focus in the remake, same with Biggs and Wedge but they turned her interest in Cloud here into full-on thirst in the remake, giving it a more romance angle in a way.
Jessie totally blows in the Remake lol like sure if you're some sexually frustrated teenager you'd find her clingy behavior cute. Normal people find her annoying AF! Biggs and Wedge were awesome though.
Finally! Thank goodness. Everybody is like "I ship Jessie and Cloud now." Or "Jessie is best girl" and I'm over here wanting to skip every scene with her in it cuz she annoys me so much
You two are funny. Fancy feeling annoyed or threatened by some romantic insinuations. Who cares? Talk about defensive as fuck lol.
Man...I haven't gotten to this portion in the remake yet. But just able to see the slums up close and the people and the environment down there. Not to mention building relationships with Wedge, Biggs and Jessie more so than the original plus the people down in S7, I know seeing this in the remake is gonna hit hard. :(
This whole scene scared the fuck out of me and I just started playing this game. I finally just started to really love tifa and aerith as characters then this shit happens. Almost started crying after seeing barret break down. I couldn't even keep my stomach together after this to keep playing, saved and quit asap.
14:24
Barret: Tifa...there ain't no turnin back now...
Tifa: *turns back*
I only played this part yestrday at night for first time thecutsence was sad
SPOILERS for remake
The original did this so much better. The fact that Biggs, Wedge, and maybe even Jessie survived really ruins the whole plate falling. And that so many of the towns people escaped. It took away the devastating feeling I got from the original.. Not to mention how, in the remake, you can still walk around in the slums and somehow still see buildings standing? An entire plate falls on the slums, and it looks more like a damn hurricane blew through it than anything else.
watch this video and 1 hr into it Stage 4 Theory really explains the remake well. th-cam.com/video/Rfgw7iDZ-bo/w-d-xo.html
2 Timelines, alternate timeline where Zack lives, Biggs survives. This is where I hope the story goes, and the guy makes all the links to suggest it is what is happening.
@@XFactor1111 Cool, thanks!
@Jennifer56 didn't say they did :p
I don't know for some reason in the remake it doesn't seem as catastrophic. I mean yes their deaths are but the plate fall doesn't seem quite nearly as bad in the remake... It just looks like some buildings fell down or something instead of an entire subsection of a city
Remake is a sequel so things don't happen exactly the same as the original because Sephiroth from the future and ghosts trying to preserve the timeline intervene.
@@XFactor1111 Well I know all of that but I'm just saying that it doesn't look like an entire plate fell. There's no way that they would be able to just walk over to where the bar was
In the original it is more cut throat and darker in tone. I agree. Also the characters seem much more conflicted here.
I never played the original. i really liked biggs, jessie and wedge. Their deaths hurt man. didn't see it coming, not so soon.
All of the tragedy from the original is chipped away in the remake when most of the citizens were evacuated and Biggs and Wedge live through it. Who knows, Jessie might be alive after all too.
that is not the same Biggs. see: th-cam.com/video/Rfgw7iDZ-bo/w-d-xo.html
Most weren't evacuated, in the original 50k people died, 30k or so did in the remake
@@XFactor1111 even if its not "our" biggs. he still survuved the plate collapse in the other timeline
The Remake gave us the disney version and directed by JJ Abrams.
@@Dtitilator The remake gave us what the writer actually wanted.
Just here after the remake. Btw jessie and cloud flirt a lot in the remake
It was more subtle in the original. I don't have the remake yet but I liked Jessie's aggressiveness in the demo.
dunno why but now that i played the remake this hits even harder
After having played through this part with the remake I can honestly say I am severely disappointed. I am at a loss of words for how they (imo) butchered this iconic scene completely. I remember when I first arrived here some twenty years ago, hearing the epic music along with the gunshots and feeling my adrenaline rise. Something big was happening, the fight with Shinra was on for real. All I wanted to do was rush to the top of the pillar and help them fight. On the way up it was sad to see Wedge, Biggs and Jesse in their final moments but I didn't have time to either grieve or reminisce because Barret was still up top fighting.
Now I understand that since they chose to focus more on the other members of Avalanche for the remake they thought it fitting to give them a "proper" death. But it bothers me that in doing so they completely changed the entire tone of this event. There's a time and place for mourning, but in the middle of an ongoing battle hardly seems like the right moment. Also, the dialogues with both Jesse and Biggs are way too long and don't feel realistic nor appropriate given what's at stake. The music is also completely different, perhaps more befitting of the sadder tone they chose to run with, but to me that just takes the edge off the fight completely. I had been looking forward to this scene especially because the remade version of "Those who fight" is one of the few soundtracks I feel they did better than the original... but instead they freaking ended up skipping it altogether. Sigh. And to top it of they even have you play Aeris and search for Marlene in the midst of it of it all, whom truthfully I could care very little about.
What a let down :(.
Remake was better
Agree with you 100% you’re spot on, I associate ‘those who fight’ with this part of the game as it was so iconic. Big mistake replacing it with a random new track. It was drawn out way too much. I loved the remake but the pillar collapse did not live up to the expectation.
I agree 100% man. They butchered this scene along with alot of other ones. But when they need to stretch a game to 40+ hours when it should be 4 hours... you start to understand why they did what they did. And they did it at the expense of an already well done set piece. All they had to do was make it look better with today's technology... but keep the same pace and tone. Even if it's just for THIS scene... but no. They showed everyone practically survived. Much of sector 7's citizens survived. I mean, are we really sad that their already-dilapidated home was destroyed? lol. It was supposed to be sudden, hectic, adrenaline inducing. The area before (trainyard) just sucked the life outta me. Again, more padding they needed to add in order to stretch the game... and AGAIN this is all at the expense of story and delivery.
3 years late to this comment but you are 10000% right. The remake didn’t do this part justice at all.
I really want to get this game.
@Ben Baxter I think he means the remake
I prefer the fall of the plate here over remake.Here everything goes silent when the plate is dropping which is much more atmospheric and darker.I also like the scene inside house where TV loses signal and you can see in the window how the plate is going lower(this small scene isnt in remake) which almost looks like end of the world.Also the president shinras scene playing opera music.
Remake is a sequel. Sephiroth from the future trying to Remake the timeline.
@@XFactor1111 I know but a lot of the scenes are still same and those watchmen of fate (or whatever they are called) are trying to make sure everything stays same within original timeline until you eventually defeat them in the end.So technically it should be same as in original until the ending.
Yeah the atmosphere in the original was a lot better imo with the silence and classical music. The remake made it kinda corny with the music and when Cait Sith was randomly shown lol
@@TheRon701 Yeah I saw some streamers who never played original react to Cait Sith appearance and they were like "WTF is that?" which killed the dramatic moment of the scene.
"You owe me a pizza"
Reno: Ha, try and break the Pyramind
Tifa: Punches it twice and it shatters
Reno:….oh
This is so much more epic than the remake.
Is it just me or is seeing wedge just drop like that the funniest shit ever after playing the remake
I always assumed Wedge didn't die in the original FF7, I mean he falls then talks to you meaning he was still very much alive, and then goes unconscious, as in the video Aerith then kneels next to him seemingly patching him up and says she'll handle this plus there's been people in RL that have survived falls from planes so its not wrong to assume you could survive a fall like that given he landed on dirt and not concrete, now its very unlikely she would have left an injured person on the floor without asking him to be taken to safety before grabbing Marlene, Cloud and co. then assume he died and Aerith you don't meet again until later and given everything that's going on (potential cross species breeding?) its only natural she wouldn't bring it up again given he is just a side character plus the group wouldn't mention it as they believe he's dead after which they leave Midgar so you'd never have the chance to run into him, all in all you never actually see him die in the original so the remake may just be confirming what was never verified, or that's my OP anyway
The death of Jessie was such a heart break
So did we all just assume the Biggs wedge and jessie were dead because cloud said they were at the pillar when it fell??
I think this has better mood than the remake
the first part of the remake will maybe end up here...I really hope we will have more!!
No, I think it's the whole midgar section. So it will end when the party escape the shinra building and get out of midgar to the world
@@zero71234 yeah that's it
I wish they kept 10:56 in the remake
What happened to the two Shinra Security Officers in the Original and the Remake?
The remake was almost exactly as the original. Damn, Square make a fucking good game
In a way, its like Midgars version of 9/11 .
Man after seeing this chapter of remake, i feel like i want to play the original.
Interesting... technically from this clip we cant say biggs,wedge n jessie died here. Usually when a character dies it will either say "he's dead" or "..." when u try to talk to them. But they keep speaking (granted same dialogue). So STRICTLY FROM THIS SCENE it's not confirmed that they are dead.
Ok
Damn, I forgot how good this game was 👍👍
Wedge fell a really long way...
Just finished this particular chapter yesterday... Felt bad for biggs and Jessie
Keep going. Do all Wallmarket sidequets. That part is the best in remake.
@@XFactor1111 in chapter 14th
@@XFactor1111 in chapter 14th?
i bet this gonna be the ending of the remake...it gives new players a cliffhanger
Nah, the real cliff hanger is leaving Midgar.
@@j0sH092 huh....hello?, Have you Been living under a Boulder or something? Since 2015 everybody knows that ff7 remake was going to be released as "episodes" the ff7 remake released this year it's "chapter 1"...
I had to restore my memories after the remake : everything is so different 😵
This part was incredibly faithful and was even made so much better in the remake.
By the way the battle music in this game is still the best one in all final fantasy.
the original is more shocking and effective
Agreed. It's all about subtext here. It's made all too obvious and drawn out in the remake. Less is more
This whole section seemed so Hollywood and overdone in the remake
´How are they going to make this ominous in the remake i wonder
I wonder how they will make ( "cough" cait sith "cough" ) later in the remake. Cough cough.
There are purists everywhere telling how bad the remake is. Not sure abou them, but the revamped version if this scene was waaaay better in my opinion.
I like Remake, and I like its handling of the characters and the plate fall better for the most part, but there are just two little aspects of the original I liked more there.
1. I like how in the original you see President Shinra just watching it all unfold from up on high while chilling with some opera music or whatever. Makes you hate him even more than you already did.
2. In Remake, it just keep playing action music the whole time the plate is exploding and falling. Here in the original I thought it was much more powerful that the music went silent and all you heard were the sounds. To be fair, every single port of the original (PC/PS4/Switch etc) messed this up and also just keeps playing the music during that FMV...
Anyone know the opera president shinra is listening to in this scene?
The Creation/Die Schöpfung by Joseph Haydn
@@julietafierrolanouguere thanks
They make their death more dynamic in the remake
They don't even die in the remake though lol
@@michaelmitchell6089 they did in our timeline. The Biggs we see alive is from the timeline where Zack survived
@@Blackhawk211 how do you know that?
Wedge my men!
Does anyone know what the song at 10:59 is called?
The Creation by Joseph Hayden
The remake was so sad. However in this game I literally just walked past everyone but Wedge without talking to them
I've played this lots of times and have to admit the remake did it better. They gave so much character development to those guys that it hurt so much to watch them die.