@@beensupe «legendaries that feel exotic » was first used for forbearance because it was so strong that it could have been an exotic, it wasn’t even the first wave frame or chain reaction gl
I’d like to point out how many new weapon frames we have gotten in the last year and a half. TFS dropped atleast 4 then we had like 3 throughout last year. This is more than like half of destiny’s lifespan.
@azure98 bungie has stated agressive frame fusion was a mistake due to how it was received so unless they change their mind there will never be anymore
It shouldn't come with Auto-loading... That's part of what makes Witherhoard borderline OP. There is now almost no reason to run Witherhoard, as we keep getting more weapons that not only more damage, but can also auto-reload.
@@jasonjohns9907 Witherhoard still has the benefit of embedding in enemies. Which is huge for yellow bars and bosses that aren't standing completely still. Or on smaller enemies, making a pool after embedding in them and killing
@@andrewbarrett682 THIS. Witherhoard is still way better because of this. Enemies just walk out of the stasis pools. Lost Signal is still great, but Witherhoard still WAY better in practice. But LS still great to use for area of denial.
you gotta spread out the burst more, the strength of this gun comes with being able to cover a very large area with once burst. the pools don't stack so one going astray isn't a big deal. its most effective when getting high ground or jumping above enemies and covering the floor in front of them not just shooting the whole burst into one choke point. even in onslaught midtown where there's mutliple corridors, you can cover two with one burst if you just look from one to another as you shoot it. with one for all factored in, its very strong. i just wish we got some sort of stasis related perk. even chill clip would work well, wouldn't be op since it only slows on direct impact though a new stasis specific perk would be cool
Something else to consider about Signal over Witherhoard and even wave-frames: Lost Signal can hit airborne targets like wizards, hydras, harpies, and shanks. Those pools can and will hover in the air after they detonate, which is just a small leg up over Forebearance. Not something major, but worth keeping in mind.
The best thing about this GL is that is fills up the Darkness side of your transcendence meter fast AF. I think a Strand version with slice+ hatchling or an arc version with feeding frenzy+voltshot would wild. Cant wait to see what they do with this archetype
Destiny 2 feels so fun to play now. I played D1 a lot in high school & D2 very casually when expansions came out but i haven’t had this much fun playing it since I was a kid. Makes me so happy to see this game in such a good place
I hope thy lean in the tech/support aspect of it Stasis: builds slow stacks while enemies are in (also helps by making enemies stay in the pools). Solar: builds scorch stacks! (ignitions builds about to go crazy.) Void: enemies every 2 secs in the pool become destabilize. Strand: If an enemy dies in a pool they create a treadling no mater what. (teammates will love that I'm sure.) Arc: will sometimes chain lighting to nearby enemies. A more interesting one would be that it refreshes blind timers. Meaning if someone flash nades, you could keep the target perma blinded.
Listen. I don't know if it was a bug. But the lost signal was the very first gun to drop for me on mission one during the campaign. I used that gun all the way through the main campiagn the first day of Final Shape coming out. Such a good gun
I love having weapons that feel like they’re filling a niche. Having a god tier all rounder like recluse in its prime was nice but having a bunch of shit in my vault I use in different scenarios is awesome
I rolled one with auto and vorpal, used it so often up until I got still hunt, its still glued to a solar build. I wanna get my last deepsight and craft it
One thing that is not as important but still good about this GL: those pulls can be spreaded in air/wall and will remain there. Like against flying vexes, that flying sh*t from TFS and, even if it's kinda useless, against bosses with particular damage area(like Witness)
I've been loving this weapon ever since it came out. On my Stasis Prismatic build I'm using Osmio gloves and two weapons with Demolitionist for an extremely fast regen of my nades.
chill clip would have been so cool on this thing. like having the enemies be slowed so they can’t get out of the pool would have been clutch and honestly solve a lot of its issues
i've got a feeding frenzy reverb roll, and for me it seems to just feed into itself. I also feel the size increase is closer to maybe a 10%-15% size increase. I agree more testing needs to be done with reverberation tho
the new reverberaton perk should have been the explosions (the pools) last longer and for other explosive weapons that have the perk give each explosion a aftershock affect because it suits the name "reverberation" better, like the explosion revererates through the enemy
If they're making a legendary version of Witherhoard, I would also LOVE a legendary version of Anarchy. A heavy legendary-version grenade launcher that can create an area denial effect that stays there until it's tripped or something, instead of automatically doing damage and fading after a few seconds. It would be cool to have a means of setting up some area-denial in a fire-and-forget manner, so it can linger for a long time until it gets tripped, and does a bunch of damage at once instead of DoT (or maybe applies a debuff based on damage type). It would make a cool utility-based heavy instead of just pure dps/volley-based, like most of them 💜 Not that I'm unappreciative of the weapons coming out lately, they're all AMAZING so far, I just thought it would be a neat idea after seeing Lost Signal come out 😁
Especially in the ad clear department, one thing that needs to be said: area denial frames work on flying enemies while wave frames do not- not saying they are better, but they are more flexible 🤷♂️
If you haven't gotten a caster wolf pack ergo sum, I'd hold onto them. I haven't done much testing but on level content, the cast projectile hits for about 12k and spawns 5 rounds on the impact location that do a little over 10k each. I think it's going to be a good pick for DPS rotations. Caster Wolfpack is like a mini gally but in the special slot
Auto-loading holster and wellspring on mine, it’s so fun to use, I hope bungie adds more with different elements, I really want a solar one so I can use exotics like kvostov and outbreak prime with it.
One thing about witherhorde is that enemies that you direct impact with are classified as "taken" for their duration, meaning malfeasance gets its damage bonus from that
LS with some form of a headstone variant or cold steel that wouldve allowed it apply slow or create a stasis crystal upon multi kills wouldve been neat
I'd love to see a buff someday down the line where it can stick and do damage like witherhoard not as much of course but just make it worth landing your shots. Ither that or just a general buff to the damage but it's still really cool.
So I may be very wrong but I think the pools do actually stack...well kind of. While the pools themselves can't stack on the ground, if you spread your shot and a target stands in 2 separate pools they seem to take damage from both. I've been noticing it with Hydras since their hotbox is large enough to stack 2 pools on it, was going to test on some larger enemies too. I've managed to hit both shoulders of a Tormenter with this. Both shoulders end up taking damage, but dunno if that confirms anything.
I got SFA and OFA on one of my first drops of this. It's a classic, and cliche, combo, and it absolutely SLAYS for add clear. Better than witherhoard for onslaught, because you can use it with another ridiculous exotic (I used it with graviton and got SO many kills).
Bungie likes releasing subclasses and abilities intentionally a little too hot, but I think they take the opposite approach to a lot of weapon types and perks where they come in a little weak and then get that buff they need to be great for their intended purpose. I think they were worried about this grenade launcher being inherent power creep on Witherhoard, but I’ll bet it gets a damage buff. Maybe just 10-15% but enough to make it much more viable
I absolutely love this GL. I have the exact roll @aztecross mentions and it freaking slaps. Witherhoard is still my favorite but I'm using the hell outta this GL right now.
I haven’t been through a single campaign without witherhoard SINCE it came out. Only problem was it took the exotic slot. The only problem with lost signal is I can’t use my KHOSTOV which is my fav
I have 1 which is exactly what I was gonna build (lead from gold/all for one), sweet. Im still gonna build 1 but I think im gonna go auto loading/unrelenting for a strictly support weapon to use with something like a glaive or maybe a scout? Since it would be support, I guess you could really use it for any build.
Really like the creativity on this one by Bungie. I think they need to remove the stagger and buff it a tad. Definitely hope to see a solar version of this and maybe a kinetic too!
Idk why all the other elemental weapons get perks that match their element (solar, incandescent/ void, destabilizing rounds/ arc, volt shot etc) but it's so rare for Stasis weapons to roll with Chill Clip. It would have been AWESOME to get chill clip on this weapon. It would be a Champ stunning machine for sure 🥲
i have a feeding frenzy reverberance which is nice but id rather have one for all in the right slot, makes to much sense since it should be effecting a large area, i had thought id like high ground on it since it got a little buff i think, but i realized it doesnt work while airborne which would be the whole point to fly up launch and have free dmg. its pretty fun, and i think its applying slow and freezing enemies which i didnt think it would do
I really feel Bungie should rework the Chill Clip perk or make another Stasis based perk to be used on all archetype and weapons so it can work better with Stasis like how Voltshot, Incandescent, Heal Clip, Repulsor Brace, and Destabilizing Rounds synergies well with each Subclass. Possible change could be Final Blows applied slow to nearby enemies similar to the current Artifact mod. Maybe even make a perk that gives a stack of Frost Armor with each Final Blow, higher stack on stronger enemies. This would be great synergy with Statis and the Headstone perk.
I was wondering if this GL was worth using over the God Roll Mountain Tops and I've come to the conclusion, kinda but depends on how you feel as a player.
I think this weapon works better if you kinda move your aim all over the place while firing. Blanket the area as sporadically as needed. Also as a stasis weapon it grants a stupid amount of dark transcendant energy. This weapon alone fills that need.
The term "Area Denial" makes me think this is a PVP frame. As you said, this is a support weapon, it's not meant to do damage, it's meant to cut off avenues of attack and punish people for standing in the fire. I think.
I do wish lost signal did a little more damage and didn’t stagger enemies out as much, but I still like it a little better than wave frames mainly because it’s not so dependent on the geometry of the ground to do it’s job
'Why is it stasis?' You may ask? That's because if it was a light element it would be either solar or void and then it would just always be ran with Witherhoard/Lost Signal/Avalanche or Witherhoard/Lost Signal/Hammerhead. Maybe Lost Signal/ Fighting Lion/ Recurring Impact?
I'm having so much fun with Prism Warlock running Hellion + Stasis Turrets + Arc Soul + Lost Signal + Ticcu = 😄😄😄 Easy explosions everywhere. Very satisfying.
Ive been using this gun for major ad clear, I am easy able to spread out the five shots across a wave of ads and just slam all of em. With how it compares, I find it like a legendary witherhoard with a possibly larger area of effect.
I'm surprised it has no synergy whatsoever with Stasis. Being the first of its kind, I feel it will eventually be powercrept when we get a Strand one, possibly with Hatchling or Slice.
I gotta say out of all the origen trades bungie has ever done these set is the best fit for the activity it comes from those Vex pools are super clutch.
This GL against vex feels amazing. I've been shooting a volley of this, switching to the sword, then doing damage with my energy weapon. Rinse and repeat and it tacks on some STUPID damage on vex
I'm sad this thing didn't get chill clip. Imagine how busted that'd be with those pools also slowing and eventually freezing/shattering if something stuck in them for long enough.
Basically, it's the same as the void flame grenade and the solar wall. It's best if enemies stand still. The void flame does the most damage out of all grenades, but because high health get stunned out of it, it's not useful.
To be fair I’m pretty sure the staggering out of the pool is intentional in that it’s a forced stagger… which is area control…. Also this launcher not having chill clip is so sad
Autoloading/demolitionist is HARD asf bro, you whip it out, shoot > grenade> shoot, whole screen is covered in damage. Then the dmg gives you nade back by the time autoloading procs🎉🎉🎉
i love this fking gl. i genuinely cant use gl's without autoloader and im also happy that bungee is giving us more unique weapons, but i want the mto go even crazier with this
soooo i made a titan stasis build using this and salvations grip and i can bassicly freeze everything and cause them to explode while also making diamond lance WHILE ALSO being tanky
I love this gun. So unique and fun. I wish this one had chill clip. I could have been so nice. I love stack this with Dragon's breath. It does amazing damage. Also anyone used it in pvp? How does it perform?
I thought I was going to use shiny brave weapons in final shape. I’m using the Call and the healing auto rifle instead. Haven’t used an exotic outside of a heavy slot for ages
Bungie delivering on what they said about making more legendaries that feel exotic
This gun feels like a potato gun tho
@@razor5694and? That doesn’t really refute his point
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@@beensupe «legendaries that feel exotic » was first used for forbearance because it was so strong that it could have been an exotic, it wasn’t even the first wave frame or chain reaction gl
@@razor5694wait what? You trolling
I’d like to point out how many new weapon frames we have gotten in the last year and a half. TFS dropped atleast 4 then we had like 3 throughout last year. This is more than like half of destiny’s lifespan.
And how many super perks have been deployed on various wpns nonbiased. A bow with volt. A new shorty with volt as well but I got chain r rolled on it.
Rocket sidearms🤤
@@natcoo8153 I just wish they'd give destabilizing rounds some help
Now my wishes are just Bungie adding more weapons to forgotten Archetypes like Aggressive Frame Fusions and adding a Tex Mechanica Duplex shotgun.
@azure98 bungie has stated agressive frame fusion was a mistake due to how it was received so unless they change their mind there will never be anymore
I have a feeling that Bungie is using this gl as the gateway to finally give us an exotic version of the cabal magma thrower
That’d go so hard ngl
Holy moly your right. The functionality is very similar between the two that this is actually a possibility now.
wait then that means they actually gave us flamethrowers and barely anybody caught on
Feels more like the Hive Knight's fire attack, but maybe I'm just misremembering the magma thrower
@@laziness6641taken knight maybe
Got one with auto loading/demo, it puts in work, and it fills your dark meter so fast when on prismatic.
and its basically a pony jar launcher
It shouldn't come with Auto-loading... That's part of what makes Witherhoard borderline OP.
There is now almost no reason to run Witherhoard, as we keep getting more weapons that not only more damage, but can also auto-reload.
@@jasonjohns9907 Witherhoard still has the benefit of embedding in enemies. Which is huge for yellow bars and bosses that aren't standing completely still. Or on smaller enemies, making a pool after embedding in them and killing
I too have been running that combo, and as a a prismatic warlock running getaway bleakwatcher with helion, I get infinite ark-stasis buddy pops.
@@andrewbarrett682 THIS. Witherhoard is still way better because of this. Enemies just walk out of the stasis pools. Lost Signal is still great, but Witherhoard still WAY better in practice. But LS still great to use for area of denial.
If this had chill clip I think it would be pretty interesting to how it would play out
i hope we get a solar variant so i can finally have my dream of a incendiary grenade launcher
@@TimothyMark7this is the closest thing to a flame thrower yet
I was going to say the same thing.
@@TimothyMark7 Legendary, special dragon's breath?
I agree, just imagine how many shatters you can get off
you gotta spread out the burst more, the strength of this gun comes with being able to cover a very large area with once burst. the pools don't stack so one going astray isn't a big deal. its most effective when getting high ground or jumping above enemies and covering the floor in front of them not just shooting the whole burst into one choke point. even in onslaught midtown where there's mutliple corridors, you can cover two with one burst if you just look from one to another as you shoot it. with one for all factored in, its very strong. i just wish we got some sort of stasis related perk. even chill clip would work well, wouldn't be op since it only slows on direct impact though a new stasis specific perk would be cool
I was looking to see if anybody else used it that way I jump in the air shoot it and slide over to make like a thermite grenade line
Something else to consider about Signal over Witherhoard and even wave-frames:
Lost Signal can hit airborne targets like wizards, hydras, harpies, and shanks. Those pools can and will hover in the air after they detonate, which is just a small leg up over Forebearance. Not something major, but worth keeping in mind.
with the amount of hydras and harpies we have to kill in this season id say this is pretty major
The best thing about this GL is that is fills up the Darkness side of your transcendence meter fast AF. I think a Strand version with slice+ hatchling or an arc version with feeding frenzy+voltshot would wild. Cant wait to see what they do with this archetype
Yep it’s AMAZING for transcendence. All that’s left to do is boost the light bar
@@seb1520yes this and dragon’s breath basicly means its up all the time
Missed opportunity to add chill clip on a stasis witherhoard GL 😢
That would have been busted or worthless.
@@garretdziuk823I’m leaning more towards “abso-fuckin-lutely busted”
@@lordsylph414 busted yea haha. Even then tho, chill clip is top half of magazine
No
If bet they tested it and it was busted AF but they’re gonna make an exotic like that.
Destiny 2 feels so fun to play now. I played D1 a lot in high school & D2 very casually when expansions came out but i haven’t had this much fun playing it since I was a kid. Makes me so happy to see this game in such a good place
Feels so amazing to use that I dropped Chill Clip Riptide. Quite Impressed by Bungie's weapon's team
I hope thy lean in the tech/support aspect of it
Stasis: builds slow stacks while enemies are in (also helps by making enemies stay in the pools).
Solar: builds scorch stacks! (ignitions builds about to go crazy.)
Void: enemies every 2 secs in the pool become destabilize.
Strand: If an enemy dies in a pool they create a treadling no mater what. (teammates will love that I'm sure.)
Arc: will sometimes chain lighting to nearby enemies.
A more interesting one would be that it refreshes blind timers. Meaning if someone flash nades, you could keep the target perma blinded.
Love this paired with Graviton Lance
Used this combo for legendary campaign and it worked very well.
I’m finally going through the campaign on my warlock and I’m using this gl and graviton too. It’s a great combo.
Listen. I don't know if it was a bug. But the lost signal was the very first gun to drop for me on mission one during the campaign. I used that gun all the way through the main campiagn the first day of Final Shape coming out. Such a good gun
I enjoy using this with vortex grenades. Lock down an area and then chuck your grenade into the pools to drag enemies back into them
I love having weapons that feel like they’re filling a niche. Having a god tier all rounder like recluse in its prime was nice but having a bunch of shit in my vault I use in different scenarios is awesome
I do as well. Love trying to make the off-meta, odd-ball weapons -- that have style and character -- work. That's my fun.
I got an auto-loading/reverberation roll that carried me through the legend campaign, since it also filled the darkness half of prismatic.
I rolled one with auto and vorpal, used it so often up until I got still hunt, its still glued to a solar build. I wanna get my last deepsight and craft it
That’s my roll, I used it through the entire legendary campaign
The pools should add slow stacks, that would make it alot better and counter overloads too
It would need chill clip for that which it doesn’t have.
It looks like it should be intrinsic, since they don’t have anything in the game that deals stasis pool damage
But duskfield grenades exist 💀
One thing that is not as important but still good about this GL: those pulls can be spreaded in air/wall and will remain there. Like against flying vexes, that flying sh*t from TFS and, even if it's kinda useless, against bosses with particular damage area(like Witness)
If they added Chill Clip this could've been a mini dusk field grenade launcher
One important thing you missed is that it gives a TON of transcendence energy
I am absolutely a HUGE fan of this. Witherhoard is my fav gun to ever come to destiny, the idea of an area denial frame is perfect.
I've been loving this weapon ever since it came out. On my Stasis Prismatic build I'm using Osmio gloves and two weapons with Demolitionist for an extremely fast regen of my nades.
cant wait to see a energy version of this frame
chill clip would have been so cool on this thing. like having the enemies be slowed so they can’t get out of the pool would have been clutch and honestly solve a lot of its issues
i've got a feeding frenzy reverb roll, and for me it seems to just feed into itself. I also feel the size increase is closer to maybe a 10%-15% size increase. I agree more testing needs to be done with reverberation tho
the new reverberaton perk should have been the explosions (the pools) last longer and for other explosive weapons that have the perk give each explosion a aftershock affect because it suits the name "reverberation" better, like the explosion revererates through the enemy
If they're making a legendary version of Witherhoard, I would also LOVE a legendary version of Anarchy. A heavy legendary-version grenade launcher that can create an area denial effect that stays there until it's tripped or something, instead of automatically doing damage and fading after a few seconds. It would be cool to have a means of setting up some area-denial in a fire-and-forget manner, so it can linger for a long time until it gets tripped, and does a bunch of damage at once instead of DoT (or maybe applies a debuff based on damage type). It would make a cool utility-based heavy instead of just pure dps/volley-based, like most of them 💜
Not that I'm unappreciative of the weapons coming out lately, they're all AMAZING so far, I just thought it would be a neat idea after seeing Lost Signal come out 😁
This is the first gun in a hot minute that feels FUN. its so unique and weird and it feels neat.
Especially in the ad clear department, one thing that needs to be said: area denial frames work on flying enemies while wave frames do not- not saying they are better, but they are more flexible 🤷♂️
If you haven't gotten a caster wolf pack ergo sum, I'd hold onto them. I haven't done much testing but on level content, the cast projectile hits for about 12k and spawns 5 rounds on the impact location that do a little over 10k each. I think it's going to be a good pick for DPS rotations. Caster Wolfpack is like a mini gally but in the special slot
Auto-loading holster and wellspring on mine, it’s so fun to use, I hope bungie adds more with different elements, I really want a solar one so I can use exotics like kvostov and outbreak prime with it.
One thing about witherhorde is that enemies that you direct impact with are classified as "taken" for their duration, meaning malfeasance gets its damage bonus from that
LS with some form of a headstone variant or cold steel that wouldve allowed it apply slow or create a stasis crystal upon multi kills wouldve been neat
Now that Bungie is experiementing with new weapon subframes, I would love to see some sort burst-fire SMG that doesn't tickle at mid range 👍
I'd love to see a buff someday down the line where it can stick and do damage like witherhoard not as much of course but just make it worth landing your shots. Ither that or just a general buff to the damage but it's still really cool.
I’ve been crunching this something serious…really dope gun
The pools it drops should ad a small amout of 'slow' stacks so targets stay in them longer.
So I may be very wrong but I think the pools do actually stack...well kind of. While the pools themselves can't stack on the ground, if you spread your shot and a target stands in 2 separate pools they seem to take damage from both.
I've been noticing it with Hydras since their hotbox is large enough to stack 2 pools on it, was going to test on some larger enemies too.
I've managed to hit both shoulders of a Tormenter with this. Both shoulders end up taking damage, but dunno if that confirms anything.
I got SFA and OFA on one of my first drops of this. It's a classic, and cliche, combo, and it absolutely SLAYS for add clear. Better than witherhoard for onslaught, because you can use it with another ridiculous exotic (I used it with graviton and got SO many kills).
Could you imagine this thing with Incandescent, my god
Try Wildstyle with proxy nades/incandescent.
Nice alternative for wave frames in activities with strange floors like Hypernet Current
Bungie likes releasing subclasses and abilities intentionally a little too hot, but I think they take the opposite approach to a lot of weapon types and perks where they come in a little weak and then get that buff they need to be great for their intended purpose. I think they were worried about this grenade launcher being inherent power creep on Witherhoard, but I’ll bet it gets a damage buff. Maybe just 10-15% but enough to make it much more viable
I absolutely love this GL. I have the exact roll @aztecross mentions and it freaking slaps. Witherhoard is still my favorite but I'm using the hell outta this GL right now.
This with auto loading and the graviton lance are my go to pair for PVE.
I have been running this thing every single day, it is so fun to use.
Martyr's Retribution is coming with Incandescent. Gonna make you completely forget this archetype. Prolly Forbearance, too.
I haven’t been through a single campaign without witherhoard SINCE it came out. Only problem was it took the exotic slot. The only problem with lost signal is I can’t use my KHOSTOV which is my fav
I have 1 which is exactly what I was gonna build (lead from gold/all for one), sweet. Im still gonna build 1 but I think im gonna go auto loading/unrelenting for a strictly support weapon to use with something like a glaive or maybe a scout? Since it would be support, I guess you could really use it for any build.
Really like the creativity on this one by Bungie. I think they need to remove the stagger and buff it a tad. Definitely hope to see a solar version of this and maybe a kinetic too!
Idk why all the other elemental weapons get perks that match their element (solar, incandescent/ void, destabilizing rounds/ arc, volt shot etc) but it's so rare for Stasis weapons to roll with Chill Clip. It would have been AWESOME to get chill clip on this weapon. It would be a Champ stunning machine for sure 🥲
i have a feeding frenzy reverberance which is nice but id rather have one for all in the right slot, makes to much sense since it should be effecting a large area,
i had thought id like high ground on it since it got a little buff i think, but i realized it doesnt work while airborne which would be the whole point to fly up launch and have free dmg.
its pretty fun, and i think its applying slow and freezing enemies which i didnt think it would do
I really feel Bungie should rework the Chill Clip perk or make another Stasis based perk to be used on all archetype and weapons so it can work better with Stasis like how Voltshot, Incandescent, Heal Clip, Repulsor Brace, and Destabilizing Rounds synergies well with each Subclass.
Possible change could be Final Blows applied slow to nearby enemies similar to the current Artifact mod. Maybe even make a perk that gives a stack of Frost Armor with each Final Blow, higher stack on stronger enemies. This would be great synergy with Statis and the Headstone perk.
What if reverb increases the duration of the stasis pools instead of the size?
I was wondering if this GL was worth using over the God Roll Mountain Tops and I've come to the conclusion, kinda but depends on how you feel as a player.
I think this weapon works better if you kinda move your aim all over the place while firing. Blanket the area as sporadically as needed. Also as a stasis weapon it grants a stupid amount of dark transcendant energy. This weapon alone fills that need.
This thing fills up my dark meter on prismatic like crazy, thats why i run it, jts not the best damage yes but it has utility that i really like
This thing goes crazy in PvP with Winter’s Shroud and Bakris dodge just sayin’ 😎
Cross, those pools do get bigger. I had them double in size with that perk!
Strategist+reverberation is what i crafted and it feels nice.
you should test song of flame with witherhoard to see if the dot is affected by the kinetic buff
The term "Area Denial" makes me think this is a PVP frame. As you said, this is a support weapon, it's not meant to do damage, it's meant to cut off avenues of attack and punish people for standing in the fire. I think.
I do wish lost signal did a little more damage and didn’t stagger enemies out as much, but I still like it a little better than wave frames mainly because it’s not so dependent on the geometry of the ground to do it’s job
I was hoping for chill clip or something to slow adds, but at least I am having fun with it.
They better add something like chill clip or at least a "stasis" perk to this if they're planning on releasing an encan solar one!
'Why is it stasis?' You may ask? That's because if it was a light element it would be either solar or void and then it would just always be ran with Witherhoard/Lost Signal/Avalanche or Witherhoard/Lost Signal/Hammerhead. Maybe Lost Signal/ Fighting Lion/ Recurring Impact?
I literally haven't taken this gun out of my primary slots since the first one drop for me
I like enhanced auto load and enhanced high ground. Free damage just for jumping is awesome.
I'm having so much fun with Prism Warlock running Hellion + Stasis Turrets + Arc Soul + Lost Signal + Ticcu = 😄😄😄 Easy explosions everywhere. Very satisfying.
Ive been using this gun for major ad clear, I am easy able to spread out the five shots across a wave of ads and just slam all of em. With how it compares, I find it like a legendary witherhoard with a possibly larger area of effect.
Pair it with the travelers gift buff that drops stasis mines on statis kills in the pale heart made some content a breeze.
I don't know if Lost Signal is best in class or even best in slot but man is it a lot of fun to use, and that arguably is more important.
Bungie should've added a new grenade perk specifically for this weapon. When you get direct hits with this grenade it will imbed into the target.
Cross reverberation works for the origin trait pools not the stasis ones. The perk is on all the seasonal weapons
Crowning Duologue also has it and that weapon doesn't have the origin trait.
If they make a solar version of one of these, it's probably the closest we'll get to a genuine flamethrower
I'm surprised it has no synergy whatsoever with Stasis. Being the first of its kind, I feel it will eventually be powercrept when we get a Strand one, possibly with Hatchling or Slice.
I gotta say out of all the origen trades bungie has ever done these set is the best fit for the activity it comes from those Vex pools are super clutch.
I went with Auto Loading over lead from gold for me. Both are great though.
This GL against vex feels amazing. I've been shooting a volley of this, switching to the sword, then doing damage with my energy weapon. Rinse and repeat and it tacks on some STUPID damage on vex
really wish we had Chill Clip for this
I'm just hoping the weapon performs well in Vex GMs
I'm sad this thing didn't get chill clip.
Imagine how busted that'd be with those pools also slowing and eventually freezing/shattering if something stuck in them for long enough.
It's fantastic for large areas of mobs from good range.
Main use case for me is gonna be easy bait and switch proc for if I want a legendary primary instead of Witherhoard
I wish auto was on the right column.
Lead + auto would be great.
Basically, it's the same as the void flame grenade and the solar wall. It's best if enemies stand still.
The void flame does the most damage out of all grenades, but because high health get stunned out of it, it's not useful.
Hey man,try using two tailed fox with facets of command and exodus rocket it's really good
did you test if it stacks ? one problem with witherhoard is at most 2 ppl can use it in a group.
To be fair I’m pretty sure the staggering out of the pool is intentional in that it’s a forced stagger… which is area control….
Also this launcher not having chill clip is so sad
I want the solar rocket assisted sidearm, but atlas time gated content
Autoloading/demolitionist is HARD asf bro, you whip it out, shoot > grenade> shoot, whole screen is covered in damage. Then the dmg gives you nade back by the time autoloading procs🎉🎉🎉
Anyone remember when Witherhoard’s pools lasted twice as long when not stuck to an enemy? Used to be insane years ago
i love this fking gl. i genuinely cant use gl's without autoloader
and im also happy that bungee is giving us more unique weapons, but i want the mto go even crazier with this
This gl is awesome. Makes it easy to charge prismatic.
soooo i made a titan stasis build using this and salvations grip
and i can bassicly freeze everything and cause them to explode while also making diamond lance WHILE ALSO being tanky
I love this gun. So unique and fun. I wish this one had chill clip. I could have been so nice. I love stack this with Dragon's breath. It does amazing damage.
Also anyone used it in pvp? How does it perform?
I got a random red border for this and it has auto and demo. I could not be happier
I thought I was going to use shiny brave weapons in final shape. I’m using the Call and the healing auto rifle instead. Haven’t used an exotic outside of a heavy slot for ages
for my money the best legendary witherhorde is still supremacy with enhanced kinetic tremors