Dungeons and Dragons Lore : Avernus
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- Avernus is the first of the Nine Hells, it is the surface of a blasted, infernal world of nightmarish landscapes, magma lakes, volcanic chasms and vast, dark fortress cities. In this video, I'll provide you with a basic tour of the plane and what the environment is like, what sort of things you might encounter there, and some background on the society that makes it's home there.
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"The insects are poisonous, and the size of your hand!"
Oh, Australia...
Story checks out.
Hot as fuck, gigantic poisonous insects, and blasted landscape that plays host to an endless war between devils and demons (aka emus and humans). Yep, this checks out.
Your thinking Spiders
To update: in Mordenkainens Tome of Foes, Zariel is described as a fallen angel, whose job it was to observe the Blood War and was corrupted by it.
I'm more concern that Zariel is SJW & mary sue part in 5.th edition.
And I know Valkia the bloody from warhammer.
Thanks u dretch
@@triratna1397 what the hell are you talking about? Read up on her
@@triratna1397 Wow. Keep your prejudice from gaming please.
@@triratna1397 Bruh could u ellaborate? I myself am not fond of mary sues, but Zariel is a well-developed character with a complicated backstory. She was an angel who could not turn a blind eye to the suffering of mortals due to the blood war, but when she tried to reason with other angels to end it, they just kept being jerks. So she gathered an army of mortals and descended into Avernus to battle devils and demons, but mortals grew scared of death and fleed the battlefield. Zariel was captured by Asmodeus who struck a deal with her. She agreed to serve him in exchange for being able to fight demons. Like she literally sacrificed her own angelic form for the cause. Plus in Descend into Avernus it is possible to redeem her, so at the core of her heart she aint evil and just wants to end the bloodshed. Idk why u think she is an SJW, cuz if it is just because she is a female and a general then u r literally being sexist. They are celestial beings after all, they can do whatever they want and be whoever they want
I'm building my own hellish plane and these descriptions are perfect for giving me ideas! So rich in description, it's clear you took a great amount of time putting all this information together and I thank you greatly!
ean nelson , it has been a years since you made your post. How do your players like your campaign setting ?
Happy Thanks Giving.
My Devils actually take the opposite approach. They will fight to the death in Hell but are quick to retreat and regroup everywhere else in the multiverse. Why? Because death in Baator means extinction and nonexistence for devils, but death anywhere else means demotion, and we all know which, for devils, is the greatest fear for devils.
"We could be killed, or worse, *expelled*"
~Hermione Granger
I figured this video would be a review of stuff I already knew, but I actually learned some things. Thanks!
This video helped me a lot when I was running Descent Into Avernus, now I still watch this video just for the hell of it (heh)
I love how Hell is a planet.
Yeah, reminds me of Mars and that DOOM game
Thank you ! still trying to wrap my head around this place as I run the adventure of the same name. Getting the big picture helps in filling in the small details.
aka......hells front parlor,great place for all kinds of adventures as well as mishaps. 1st & 2nd edition.....if you visited there you almost certainly would attract the attention of Tiamat and her brood! Nice vid m8!
Brilliant video. Your stuff is wonderfully put together and full of great information.
Thanks Mike, much appreciated :)
to journey to the home of tiamat surely would only be an adventure for epic level characters. but ah what a tale to tell....
+trenton maloney Yeah, I often wonder at the complaints from some folks that go "Weh! The game has no content at high level WEH!"... I'm like "oh really?".
+trenton maloney How about non-epic characters having to sneak past Tiamat?
+Shice Squad ... exactly. non-epic characters in Hell ... its basically as scary as real life.
Shice Squad
sneaking past a godling is no small feat.
trenton maloney
True, that's why you could make it a major element in your campaign. The Gentleman Gamer ran a Planescape game with Ander Wood where they had to do just that and it made for a mighty interesting session.
Unexpected lore after 20 years of playing, nice
Another great video, as always, AJ! These videos are real gems, I tell you hwut.
I appreciate that!
I like the way devils are handled in d&d. They're obviously evil to the core but you still get the impression that if it weren't for them, the world might well be a worse place (as they're holding back the forces of the abyss).
Like that quote from chronicles of Riddick, "Sometimes, to fight a great evil, you need another kind of evil."
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I am running Descent into Avernus and this video is very insightful
Been binging on your videos these past couple of weeks, and while everyone always complements you for your thorough knowledge and research, not many mention the fresh beats you sneak into these videos. I would love to know the names of some of these songs, particularly the closing song of this video, or the opening song of the minotaur and mindshard videos. Keep up the good work man.
Hell as a planet just doesn't impress me. Hell is an entire plane of existence. An alternate dimension every bit as large as the Prime Material plane.
A tower of skulls? Blood river? Khorne would approve
AD&D2e " Planescape" campaign setting box set, and the suppliment ," Castles & Dungeons " had a game set on Avernus with the River of Maggots at the base of a steep cliff and castle.
The were off hand remarks here and there,in a few booklets that there were Druids that got stranded on Avernus and
" Nature Bonded " to the land. Druids are Spiritual Wardens of the Land/ Earth.( World) so the nature priests just embrace a new land to bond with.
Erinyes in pre 4e ran from fights and behave more as Rogues. Now they are warriors ? !
Well, I always gave monsters class levels when I can. I am still sticking with 3.5e
AD&D2e " Tome of Magic," had a 9th-level spell called " Estate Transfer."
spell effect: Place stone markers surrounding an area of land/ building with a radius of a hundred feet.
From the plane you want to move the area site to. At the end of casting the land of two different planes switch places. This effect was permanent .
Wizard towers and cleric temples could/ can be move " Once," with this spell.
Lich posing as false gods would trick their worshipers/ followers into Baator this way.
In AD&D " Planescape" setting and 3e " Manual of the Planes," lawful evil gods had their Domains within Avernus.
Have a good Thanks Giving weekend.
Thank you for the down loads.
I wish u made one for every level
I gotta get back to this series, it has been ages!
Thanks for another great lore video!
I have an(other) idea for a video for you; how about something on Good Dungeon Master Practices?
What is the *goal* of the Dungeon Master?
+Mithradates Megas I suppose I could offer some views on it for you :) Really though, just go watch Matt Mercer's GM Tips (th-cam.com/play/PL7atuZxmT9570U87GhK_20NcbxM43vkom.html) they are excellent, he is funny, on point, easy on the eye and has a voice like oak barrel mellowed honey bears.
HELL yeah! Yeah, you fucking heard me.
So there is a Tower of High Sorcery and Draconians in hell?
Pit fiend description: a hulking 12-foot-tall (3.7 meters) humanoid form that weighed 800 pounds (360 kilograms).[3][7]
Their bodies were armored with scales and were quickly inflamed in
response to their rage or excitement. A pair of massive, bat-like wings
gave pit fiends a gargoylish appearance and they often wrapped their
wings around their fearsome, red figures. Their huge fangs dripped with
hissing, green venom and their prehensile tails could be cracked like
whips.
Female pit fiend description: Red colored semi clothed Supermodel with horns.
I always thought of this plane as Mordor. But a bit warmer.
So I had a question, well more curious on your opinion would Bel or Zariel be a descent fiend patron for a warlock? also I was thinking about making a Hexblade lock, but rather than make it a weapon from the shadowfell, make it a fiendish weapon. specifically a devil that was forced into, or polymorphed into a weapon. I was thinking about making it fanatically loyal to either Bel or Zariel and what ever souls you take when you kill with it, goes to them to empower them. the weapon is a conduit of power to both the wielder and say Zariel, which she uses to maintain her power over Bel. Is that something that should just be saved for a pact of the blade or would it work with a Hexblade?
How do you visualize these lower planes in terms of its overall structure? At the beginning, you show the slide of Avernus being a planet. Are the other layers below the surface or are they other planets all connected by the River Styx somehow? What makes it a plane and not a prime material world? I'm not up on 4e cosmology. I remember those planes were a bit ambiguous as to their structure back in 2e Planescape.
Any plans to update this with recent events from Descent into Avernus?
Doing balders gate decent to avernus now.
I hate it when I have a D.M. who wants to run a campaign in a part of the 9 hell's and makes it so t that you can go there instantly. I mean to each zone but part of the fun in my opinion of playing a campaign set in the lower planes is that you can't plane shift from point A to point B .Of course usually step 1 Is usually Avernus. I mean if hell were that easy to get in and out of what kind of prison is it?
Session zero discussions are important.
Zariel is a fallen angel. She isn't a pit fiend, she became an Archdevil when the heavens kicked her out after Avernus corrupted her appearnce.
What do you think the pit fiends originally were?
Asmodeus.. took over an entire planet.
17:30 spelled Abishai- took me forever to figure out the spelling because the transcript thinks he's saying "ever shy."
The godborn novel from the sundering was violent and good it had mephistoples. asmodeus. And mask.and more much much more yes yessssss
Can you do Malbolge next?
Which map is best for Avernus?
I was wondering have the demons ever gotten through too any other layers of the 9 hells!!??
8:05 >much like Dresden
Too soon.
was I talking about the tv show or the German city?
Which book is this in dude, I like it!
According to The Fires of Dis, nonbaatezu can stay alive by eating fire fungus. It's a warm, wriggling, dull red growth usually found in patches recently hit by fireballs. The stuff's not tasty, but it's marginally nutritious.
And in 5th edition, Abyssal Chicken
I am terribly interested in the infernal politics.
Is that an oxymoron, infernal politics? Not sure.
I'd see it as a Redundant statement, Devils can only think in politics.
Well, it is describing what set of politics is the topic of conversation. So it is fine. After all, given this is devils, they can in fact be involved with the politics of other places.
Coming in on this video well after Zariel is revealed to be a fallen solar and bringing the whole time 😂
Zariel was once an angel that came below because she loves to fight. Is it possible to make an angel turn into a pit fiend? I always thought that she just was a unique type of fiend.
It's clearly possible for an angel to be turned into a powerful devil such as a pit fiend, though Asmodeus may value such a prize as an angel willing to swear loyalty to him enough to replace an existing archduke with them.
Fun fact: Abishai are used to give birth to the metallic draconians of Dragonlance. But I'm not sure where Noble Draconians come from.
So since this plane came from the world of Baator originally, do we have any idea how large Baator was before it was destroyed? I am trying to get a feel for the size and scale of this plane..
Think of avernus as a plane modelled on a planet, but it's not a planet, it seems like you go down into the planet, but really, each layer is a Russian doll style nested plane, also seemingly boundless.
The audio appears to have been strippped form this video?
Obviously this was made before we knew of Zariel's origin story. But that being said, I actually still like the idea that a Pit Fiend when created shapes itself to best fit its own gender identity, what ever that might be. For a Devil... that makes sense. Shit, look at Succubus/Incubus (though Incu/Succubi are neither demon nor devil, just fiends.. ).
Rambling. Anyway! Yeah, that makes sense.
Those are sex devils/demons How are specifically created to corrupt people they are changing into whatever is best suited to corrupt the person they’re talking to and trying to sleep with to bring them to further acts of evil and horror
why does avernus sound like high school, or just public school in general?..
Eep groves and groves of Manchineel Trees!
For some reason I can't link to either the Wikipedia page nor a You Tube page by Thoughty2 on the Subject.
I'm not in control of who can and can not post links, sorry.
AJ Pickett I know was just surprised, was mentioning the tree in regards to to poisonous plants part.
I have been using Erinyes as fallen upper planar creatures that, through one compromise through another, became evil beings (fallen) since the 80s. They are essentially like old corrupt people with power who drifted from their ideals to get the job done and turned into the very monsters they fought while being a perverse version of who they once were. Is it cool I still use them that way? When (if) I run another AD&D game, should I create a new extraplanar monster for this? I have plenty of origins should I need to.
That80sGuy1972 I’d say you got Erinyes just right.
Erinyes in AD&D2e and 3.5e, were 6HD LE Outsiders that can be summon by a 4th-level spell
" Lesser Planar binding/ Call Planar Ally." These are basic teenagers/ young adult of their race.
The 6th-level " Planar Binding " spell summons up to a 13HD outside, Erinyes 6HD+ 7 class levels.
Erinyes before 4th/ 5the were " none combatains " they were treated as Rogues.
Could some supply with the correct name of the irinese? (the second group) Since I probably write it wrong I can't find any additional lore on them.
Not sure if you ever found it, but it's Erinyes, taken from Greek mythology (the Furies).
pillar of skulls. Skulls piled to a mouantain now where have i heard that before? Wonder if Khorne has any ideas
Korne is just a sad poser. He wishes he was half as bad ass as the average devil.
have you done a video on the Dawn War itself? i know where to look for Blood War references and lore -- where would i look for Dawn War concepts and history? i did a google search and the top item was Forgotten Realms lore ... but just glancing through the list of topics the Dawn War seems to be a largely 4th edition concept? is that right?
+Rp Sketchbooks Yes, it was largely fleshed out in 4th edition, but the lore has been largely unchanged for 5th edition (simplified and less fluffy for the most part, but still based on the same established canon). I will be going into more detail on the Dawn War era when I start talking about Demons, it is certainly a big Monsterology episode as it deals with the Primordials, the origin of Gods and the origin of the Demons. Really, most things tie into the Dawn War in D&D.
+AJ Pickett (The Mighty Gluestick) ... that's right on, cool to hear. i don't personally know crap about the Lore from 4th edition, and really don't know much about the lore of 5th edition yet either. but i recognized several places on your map from 2nd edition Planescape. in the Well of the Worlds adventure/encounter supplement there's a great drawing by Tony DiTerlizzi of the Pillar of Skulls, but its not described (or drawn) with the gigantic proportions you describe. i'm not sure if the lore is the same in 4th edition but despite the name it was (is?) actually a cylindrical pile of living heads, "in various states of decay and decomposition." it also apparently went into the ground some distance "with half-buried heads still trying to talk, despite earth filling their mouths." (all quotes from pg 18.)
sfery.wikia.com/wiki/Baator?file=Pillar.jpg
" You want to know ancient secrets about my home, you say? Sign this NDA. Never mind the fine print, just sign. Your initials here & here. Sorry, you'll need to sign a contract for a copy of the contract you just signed. No? Where was I? Our mutual friend, AJ mentioned the pillar of skulls. The dark of it is that the pillar of skulls is misnamed. It is, in fact, a pillar of heads. The eternal punishment for sages who abused the knowledge they had access to for corrupt motives. Bring them a gift & perhaps they'll share their wisdom, yes? The nearby Yellow Brick Road allows speedy travel across Avernus, but avoid it, our mighty legions travel swiftly on it,to a Blood War front, feint, something, somewhere, always. The gate to the 2nd layer of our home, Dis, is safely within the lair of a dragon queen named Tiamat... you look shaken, mortal, like you've heard of her. Try to get a brick from the yellow brick road. You'll be needing it to activate the portal. Good luck, mortal"- overheard at a bar in Sigil
I know this from a long ago but is there anything on avernus the mortal plan?
can you rephrase that question for me please?
@@AJPickett you side at the beginning of the video that avernus was once a planet on the mortal plane. I was just wondering if there was any info on it before it was taken to the abyss or why it was taken to the abyss in the first place.
So was it 5e that introduced Baator as the planetoid type deal instead of the layers being discs?
The layers have always been infinite, the discs are not literal, just representative. The planet avernus thing was 4E I believe.. I will have to check that.
@@AJPickett IIRC Tyrants of the Nine Hells in 3.5 and maybe the 3.5DMG said that the Hells were infinite but the layers Finite other than Nessus which had infinitely deep cliffs. And maybe Dis once inside the city.
16:00 .....so its Australia then ;) ?
AJ, I'm caught up. I'm fiending for another monster video, but Tiamat doesn't control the first plane anymore?
+Steven Tausch Not the whole of it, just a sizeable area of mountainous lands surrounding the gateway to Dis.
+AJ Pickett (The Mighty Gluestick) If Mammon and his Succubus wife doesn't control the 3rd plane. I'll be sad
I'm working on that video today, as a matter of fact.
are you going to do anymore of this promising serie?
Yes I am :)
Can't wait for Malbolge, that has been my favorite for a while
Is the 9 hells a planet on the prime or a different dimention.
It's several detached and hodge podged together chunks of dimensions rescued from the Abyss somehow over the incredibly long eons of the Blood War. How they did that, I don't know.
What are those angel type creatures called? How do you spell it?
Erinyes
@@AJPickett Thanks, close captioning didn't help, kept calling them eye knees. stilly TH-cam. btw I'm really enjoying your videos.
Level 40+ area.. definately..
before getting to see your video about the first layer of Hell i had to watch a long youtube commerical for a movie about Elvis Presley and Richard Nixon. COINCIDENCE??? i think not ...
+Rp Sketchbooks Ha ha ha! That IS kind of spooky.
Do the spells Goodberry and Create Water function there?
Yes, @@rachdarastrix5251. Check the Druid spell list.
@@rachdarastrix5251, you do understand that Avernus IS still part of "Hell", right? ;-)
"The idea is that every time that storm brews and it begins to rain it will create a oasis to make survival easier..."
Good luck with that.
They probably shouldn't right?
Zariel is NOT a pit fiend. She is a fallen solar angel.
Old video.
@@AJPickett That makes sense.
Just had an idea of two rival gangs in Sigil. Both are lead by a green abishai. It's the same abishai. Just some ambient flavoring
i thought the bronze citadel was in the fire plain
That would be the City of Brass
do you have to be a pit fiend to become a archdevil
No, that distinction is mainly a matter of politics and hierarchy, Bel the Warlord is the only former Pit Fiend who is now lord of the First layer of Hell, Pit Fiends are not rulers of territory, they are rulers of armies, and they have their own hierarchy of sorts, including the infamous Dark Eight (a coven of pit fiend generals who resided on the Ninth Layer of Hell, Nessus)
I would purpose that much like the kytons the eyranies are outside of the Batezian evolutionary process. These are ancient creature damned for their involvement in a war not souls doomed to spend eternity in the grinder of baator
The Yugoloths claim that all native baatorians are derived from the process they instilled into the mortal soul larvae, the taint of law sends them to Baator, the taint of chaos sends them to the Abyss (see video on the Demodands for the full mythology of the Yugoloths)
Congratz for your Infernal Series. If you are interested, I would suggest reading the Brimstone Angels book series by Erin M. Evans. There's some interesting takes on the lore.
One idea that I liked is her interpretation of the Blood War.
Here : slushlush.com/2015/03/lazy-blog-2-2/
+Marpaws I love the idea of an Asmodean Paladin! Totally going to steal that. Good read, thanks for the link :)
+AJ Pickett (The Mighty Gluestick) my pleasure !
I LOVE your videos, your style, and your content, but man do I wanna buy you a better microphone 😢
It got better! This is an older video.
Only way into the lower plains is the top layer of hell? What about the Abys, or the place where the river Ocianus dumps into the river styx?
So if the devil's could they wouldn't end the bloodwar? Cause it'll be damaging to their freedom from the God's?
Huh. I guess so. Interesting.
I thought big devil-man temporarily ended it by throwing the abyss into the elemental chaos
Gender would never matter in situations such as this since either one can be evil & wicked-hearted and thus rise thru the ranks.
Now why they would choose to keep one gender while there is beyond me! I would switch it back & forth as it suited my lusts & motivations. But that is me.
Identity. It is not like they are really any gender at all. But how they view and present themselves may indeed align with a particular gender.
Sex Is the term that you should be using they are not changing their gender they are changing their sex as they genuinely change their biological form or magical form in this case gender is only in your head the rest of it is biological sex. And secondarily these are devils they probably don’t have enough time other than the arch devils for lust.
I know this is an old video...but I've never understood how demon kind has more foothold in hell than the devils have in the Abyss. Succubi and Tiamat have places to call home in the nine levels...how could the Devil lords suffer this incursion? I always thought that the Blood War was an even paced stalemate through the publications.
Tiamat " Mother of Chromatic Dragons," two of her heads are blue and green, lawful evil dragons.
So she Is 2/5th lawful.
Succubi join Baator in an act of politics.
@@krispalermo8133 Taken in that context I guess that makes sense. I may not understand but that gives some perspective. Then I would suppose that so long as they reasonably follow the lawful rules while there they could remain. Plus if their chaotic antics get out of hand the Devils would be able to practice their fundamental natures in meting out punishments.
Why do demons fight Devils, what is the fundamental difference?
I'm very new to D&D so I apologise if this question sounds foolish.
Way back in D&D time, the first beings kind of had to figure out the boundaries of law, chaos, good and evil, the division between law and chaos is the most fundamental to them, with good and evil coming in a close second. Originally, the forces of law who were fighting the forces of chaos for dominance in the D&D universe, ended up becoming evil, as the constant warfare twisted and changed them, and this became a problem, so, they basically got banished into a realm with many ways in, but few ways back out.. in a sneaky deal, those who were banished arranged a system where they would punish those mortals who broke divine laws, and in compensation for this, they would be able to use the energy of those souls to give them the divine power to reshape reality to a limited extent.. because they needed that power to continue to keep the forces of chaos in check.. what the gods did not factor in, was that these devils were using the war against chaos, with the demons, as a means to an end.. they then did everything they could to convince mortals to break divine laws and condemn themselves to the custody of the devils for punishment, providing the devils with more and more divine power, and the devils have continued the war against the demons, known as the blood war, in perpetuity, because a decisive victory by them would end the contract with the gods and free mortal souls from their custody, and a decisive victory by the demons would tear the universe apart and return it to a state of elemental chaos.
What AJ means is, Law versus Chaos.
It's a war of ideals to decide which "type" of Evil is better.
And it really doesn't need to be explained more than that.
That's right, the biggest conflict in creation has a rather simple cause.
Yeah, in a nutshell, that is what it is about.
Moregasm the Powerful Canonically, it stems from Asmodeus stealing a shard from the Seed of Evil at the very center of the Abyss and used it to forge the Ruby Rod of Asmodeus. Demons fight to retrieve the seed shard. Of course, the Devils were celestial warriors who fought the Demons, but had become warped and corrupted by the Demons, so there's that, too.
Brian Corvello actually, thats a very large mischaracterization
So avernus is basically like Afghanistan, or pakistan, or iran,
I wouldn't know, I have never been to those countries.
@@AJPickett it's pretty hectic over there. Islam doesn't care where the blood flows from, as long as it flows. Very similar to khorne from 40k.
@@secondarytrollaccount didn't ask.
If hell is a planet, then how do souls get there, a spaceship?
Updates since this video was published: So an Angel rules the first layer of hell now. Hell must be freezing over. Certainly a plot twist.
...a female Pit Fiend. Interesting. This isn't the first case I've heard of where a female gender was applied to what might be an androgynous or male fiend, and well it shouldn't. Well met!
Sometimes you are just so difficult to understand.