Falconry: Are Goshawks the best accipiter to start with?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- In this falconry video I discuss goshawks and whether or not they are the best accipiter to start with. I discuss and compare other new world accipiters such as Coopers hawks and Sharp shinned hawks as well as old world goshawks such as Finnish goshawks, and African goshawks and Shikras. Accipiters of all kinds take extra consideration and dedication to be flown safely and properly. When a falconer decides to start working with accipiters, making the correct choices in choosing which species to fly can make all the difference in the world.
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Finnish female goshawk would be my recommendation for a first Goshawk. All of the Tiercel Goshawk‘s I have flown have been excellent, but a much higher level of Spazzy behavior. If all goes according to plan, I will be trying an imprint north American female this year. I’m excited for the challenge.
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Lol this video came just in time. I will be flying a Finnish goshawk next season. I’m very excited
Great video
The gos has always been my favorite bird
Thanks Ben! I'm still loving the accipiter videos! I've talked to other falconers about caring for Goshawks in the South since they can be really sensitive to both heat and asper, and one suggestion I've heard is that being really obsessive about keeping their stress levels to an absolute minimum is essential to keeping them healthy, especially through the hotter months. Maybe you can do a video about the best ways to de-stress accipiters - especially during the molt when you can't really fly them - and heat management for Goshawks especially, if you haven't already made one? A lot of my fellow Southern falconers make Goshawks sound impossibly fragile, but I've started to suspect that a lot of that might just be the heavy Red Tail bias of this area at work. Thanks for everything you do!
Get a Harris hawk
Couldn't agree more on all points, Ben...
I had to look that up.
Can you do a video of you flying o e of your accipiers or hawks
Ben, when you were an apprentice what was your vary first bird of pray?
Great video. My first falconry bird ever was a female goshawk. She was just fine axept some noise😅
I'm based in Africa, gonna get an another bird soon, gabar goshawk (small Chanting gos subspecies) same size as a sharpie, I'm going to hunt sand grouse with her. I'm 11y old. My sponsor says a small hawk is the best to start with.
Can you make a video on training a chamber raised Harris?
The same way you'd train a brancher redtail or any buteo. It won't know how to hunt so you enter them on to the prey you want to hunt with the lure and then bagged game.
What do you think about the red Goshawk of Australia? Seems like a super interesting bird
I’ve got a question for you Ben, great video as always btw, do you think that early europeans that used falconry as simply a means to source food helped drive the old world goshawks to be the more relaxed versions? My “theory” if you can even call it that, is that perhaps when people took them, they may have been more likely to use the calmer ones and after the winters passed upon releasing them, may have unintentionally selectively pressured the species into becoming more docile, where as the north american goshawks didn’t have that pressure and thus, are less “domesticated” in a sense. I’m curious as to what you think!
They weren't released actually. To narrow the train of thought btw, Merlin's were only allowed for the ladies of upper class. Knights and nobles were allowed a peregrine falcon, the king or emperor would have peregrine's and a white gvr. So only goshawks were available for peasants and commonwealth. They d catch one, hunt it, and keep it year-round and hunt it year round as well😊
@@galderseweg I appreciate the response! I was under the impression that they were hunted a season and then released once food became more readily available without their assistance (i.e crops were able to be grown again)
@@SplotchTG I do subscribe to your way of thinking, just not in Europe... The Kazakhs and Kirghiz in eastern Asia hunt the golden eagle taken from the nest or captured as a fledgling. It's hinted for about 6 years and then released. Animals not suited for hunting or falconry would have died in the meantime. So in that case natural selection based on falconry purposes does occur in my opinion
Albidus baby yeah albidus ☝️
Could you make a video on differences between training falconry birds and education birds? The education gos I work with is very intense, but it gets very effectively channeled into training and we’ve rarely had aggression issues.
I don’t mean to be rude, but that’s a silly question. The difference is that the handler does not hunt them. If this bird can fly this bird should be hunting. It’s not a domesticated animal like a dog. Even if this bird is in a zoo it’s still wrong. I can just imagine how miserable this bird is because it doesn’t get to be what it is. If you want to be educated then watch documentaries, or get to know a falconer.
Hey sir I was taking a lunch in El Monte,Ca. I witness a Goshawk chase a sparrow through the neighborhood of tress and parked cars, house's and such. What type of Goshawk might that be ? I knew it was a Goshawk by it's stripping but likely what type ??
Hey Ben, good info. I'd agree that the Goshawk is much easier then the Sharpy and way better than the Cooper's. I did notice on some into footage of an Ornate Hawk-Eagle. Have you flown one or know someone who has? I'm moving to Ecuador and thought that it would be a great bird. I've flown Gyr's, Peregrines, Crosses, Red Tails, Gos and one Golden Eagle. Please share.
Great video. For accipiter's I've had two coop's and two sharpie's. The coop's are a level of magnitude more difficult to me. However the sharpie's weight control is very exacting to deal with. Thinking about taking it easy and flying a falcon this year. However the accipiter itch is getting to me.
How does the foot size compare in size to a RT?
Would you go with a male or female Go's Ben?
GasHawks are my second favorite bird after eagles. But I learned about them from the netflix series Animals. But they are bad a*s birds. And beautiful woman from 1:50 with the bird. You are so freaking beautiful if you had an accent I would listen and stare at your for days.
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Aaron Jones has good Finnish goshawks
Hi Ben. I live in Africa, we have a large range of species of Accipipters here. I've had a rehab bird before (flew away while free flying). She wasn't an Accipipter. I'm 11 y old. getting a new hawk(Gabar goshawk) my sponsor is very serious about Accipiters, gabars are actually small not temperamental chanting goshawks, infact there a small subspecies, they are a killer bird.
Mr. Woodruff. I'd like to ask your permission to use a few seconds of your beautiful goshawk footage in my upcoming videos about George R.R. Martin's 'A Song of Ice and Fire', in which a character tells a story about a goshawk. I would not use any of you voiceover or any human faces. Thank you.
I just came across the NJ channel flying his white goshawk. His videos are incredible and show an unbelievable intensity in that bird. what do you think about his videos?
I have had a kestral rusting under the eaves of my house for 20 years and see perigrines in winter and of course we have several broadwings that live here. I have never seen any shortwings here at all. This is the USVI
Sure it is not the best bird which you can start with it because it is a very difficult to make it trust you and it takes about month with the hard work just to win the trust of it to start the training.