The Perfect Chaos of Super Sonic
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- Unoriginal, derivative, and one of the best things to ever happen to the Sonic franchise. Let's talk about Super Sonic and why it doesn't hurt to have a little chaos in your life.
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Not gonna lie, when you said "This isn't perfect Chaos...This is" and showed Super Sonic, it gave goose bumps.
That transition was hyyyyyyyype
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11:10 for those looking for the time stamp. And yeah HOLY CRAP! I was like “f*ck yeah! Here we go! Super Sonic mode baby!”
It’s so perfect
yeah that was cool 😎 and he shows his importance in this too which is great
When I was 8 and had Sonic 2, I became a Sonic fanatic, and it drove me crazy to have never seen Super Sonic. This was before the internet too, so I couldn't just look him up. I could only imagine the possibilities. I only knew about him because my friends would tell me about it. Then I would listen to the sound test music and get so sad because I knew 14 was the super sonic music as it was one of two songs I hadn't heard in all of the hours I poured into the game. I didn't know anyone who knew the code to get him and it bummed me out so bad. Then one day, I went through the trouble of getting all of the chaos emeralds, not knowing what they were for and the screen said I could now turn to Super Sonic, but didn't say how. As I was playing, I collected 50 rings and jumped to a platform and it happened... I nearly lost my mind with excitement. I was shaking for the rest of that playthrough. That's a memory that will stick with me forever.
Yeah dude I know exactly what you're talking about. One hell of a feeling.
U can only get this feeling from a game
I felt the same way but with Sonic 3&K, but not Super Sonic it was with Hyper Sonic.
@@tjz3158 oh yeah, that one got me too. Especially because none of my friends knew about it. I was completely surprised.
@@westpointsoulja it great to know that we love this Radical Blue Hedgehog/Needlemouse no matter what form he takes at first Super Hyper and Darkspine were the only forms I knew from The Flash fighters Animations of the early years 2006-2009
_"What do you think when you hear the word Chaos?"_
Multicoloured emeralds and a giant creature made out of water...I must have made some terrible life choices.
I think that _"I, Garland, shall _*_KNOCK YOU ALL DOWN!!!"_*
Terrible life choices indeed, but it feels so good. Don't do drugs, kids.
I think of a dancing clown that can turn into a scythe of various sizes
@@8-bitsarda747 i think of multicolored emeralds and the jester you speak of
I think of teleportation
To me, Super Sonic always represented a similar mental/physical dynamic to super saiyan. A hero's personal peace and resolve within the chaos of their own body. Sonic and Goku are the types of heroes that can harness the chaos around them to bring about harmony rather than it corrupting them. They become the chaos, but as you say, in their hands, it is not a horror, but a spectacle of change.
_We gotta love the well made golden warriors._
What are your thoughts on Hyper forms in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Strider?
That's a really neat way to look at it, Strider!
I agree. In my opinion, Super Sonic is much cooler because after the Buu Saga in Dragon Ball Z, Toryama forgot the brilliance of the Super Saiyan Form. Besides, Super Sonic losing in an epic showdown is rare because of how powerful he is in that state.
sadly no original supersonic is a insane psyco killer go look up fleetway supersonic :)
With all 7 Seven Chaos Emeralds you can Manipulate the Realm of Reality to create a Miracle. Bending the Laws of Physics to create "Chaos".
“That ain’t Perfect Chaos… this is.”
*character model clipping through floor*
YOU SHUT YOUR DAMN FACE! this is what we had.
I can just hear the Gmod sound effect of a model/character hitting the ground repeatedly because you glued them to something
Everyone asks where's Hyper Sonic, but no one ever asks how's Super Sonic
bc super sonic is LITERALLY IN EVERY FRICKING Game hyper sonic deserves more (even though i like super sonic more hyper sonic is now at same level
Nobody ever asks about that one-off Hyper Tails, either.
I'll do you one better, why is Sonic ?
All i know is, ultra instinct copied ultra sonic from archie. They both look like there in base but its there most powerful form. And of course the name both have ultra.
Where is Hyper Sonic?
Normal fiction: Order vs Chaos
Sonic: Negative Chaos vs Positive Chaos
Edit: I originally put destructive chaos not negative chaos because I found out both negative and positive chaos are destructive.
Actually, its negative vs positive, they are both destructive regardless of side, but who uses and how is what determines the outcome
till you realize supersonic is actually fleetway super sonic a deranged killer who takes joy in hurting and trying to kill those around him and friends lol
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I'm certain Super Sonic of the games isn't like the Fleetway version
@@modmaker7617 didnt say it is the same o.O rofl but is original more or less bud :)
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Super Sonic first appeared in Sonic 2 in 1992
Fleetway's "Sonic the Comic" series began in 1993.
No you're wrong the game version came first.
I liked how a book series put it. In "The Land: Chaos Seed" chaos is described as the power of *choice.* The protagonist, Richter, others see in him simultaneously the potential of great good and evil. But he is neither because he has not made his choice.
Hyper sonic power
"It doesn't matter who is wrong or who is right"
Richter? Chaos? What is this Castlevania? Lol
Taking a drink every time you say Chaos is a guaranteed trip to the ER lol.
depends on what you drink.
@@8-bitsarda747 he was talking about alcohol specifically
I attempted to prove you wrong with water but now my kidneys are failing
Is that before or after the Final Fantasy montage? XD
im Irish so.... this is basically a slow Tuesday to me :P
Great retrospective. Playing as Super Sonic was a double edged sword for me in Sonic 2 and 3. So much fun to control but I missed the regular level music.
For a certain degree of "control". Good luck doing any kind of precise platforming with that kind of speed.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Never had an issue at all surprisingly
Well at least Egg Revire, is a great song that plays while your in Super Sonic, but i don’t mind the Sonic Mania Super Sonic, music.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter You don't have to hold right the whole time, you know.
"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star" Friedrich Nietzsche.
Somehow, I see parallels between that quote and Sonics' transformation into Super Sonic once he has all 7 chaos emeralds
Interesting
I remember seeing a Sonic tarot somewhere and they put Super Sonic as "The Star"
It was very fitting
*STAR PLATINUM-*
"Maybe I am looking too deep into it" that's what I'm here for
Yeah, what we're all here for, I love his videos where he knows he's looking too deep but still keeps going
I wish Sonic Team hires Ian Flynn to be THE Main Writer for Sonic.
I don't know who they need, but they definitely need someone different from whoever they've got now.
I think the best story we’ve ever had was sa2
I mean hiring someone whose actually a Sonic fan and is knowledgeable about the franchise is just common sense, too bad this is Sega we're dealing with lol!
Ha! That’ll be the day….
@@lynxfresh5214 sonic fans barley make good games only few of them are good
Regarding Fleetway Super Sonic, the early games themselves actually shaped his wild, "Destroy Everything" persona. The writers and artists all noticed the same reaction from players when he was on screen - You have great power but it's much more difficult to precisely control, so as a result most players threw the traditional approach to playing out the window. It was less about being careful and considered, and more about plowing into the nearest enemy you could find with your face, not really caring about the dangers that lay ahead. To most kids the first time they got Super Sonic, it felt like the ultimate power trip, which is what Fleetway Super Sonic encapsulates.
I know this will maybe be said in the video but Perfect Chaos and Super Sonic have a really good Yin and Yang Dynamic when you look at how Perfect Chaos represented the Destructive/negative side of the emeralds while Super Sonic represented Order/the positive side of the emeralds
that was like, the point. it was hammered really hard throught the last story of the game. especially the speech sonic gave
Well to me they both are two halves of the term Chaos Postive and Negative Energy Chaos is even a parallel to Sonic as to is a protector it kinda makes us wonder what if some group manage to harm Sonic Friends what would Sonic Do if he was in Chaos Shoes unable to help his friends and watch them suffer well Sonic X and Sonic the Comic gave us a Two hint to what Sonic Negative Curropted Super Form would be Fleetway Sonic or Dark (Super) Sonic hell we even seen in the archive comics what a Positive Perfect Chaos would be instead of a Giant Water Dragon Dildo,we get a Giant Chaos Zero with Chaos Emeralds within his Chest like a goddamn Vultron or
@@lerona.martyr3811 I know I’m saying I really enjoyed that Dynamic
As I've observed from fictional series with the Yin-Yang/good-evil dynamic, such as Avatar and Legacy of Kain, light is represented by a yellow/golden color while darkness is a dark purple/violet. The same could be said for Super Sonic's golden energy and the purple energies of evil entities such as Dark Gaia and Metal Sonic.
In ancient Chinese philosophy, tho, the color yellow is considered "the center of everything", the source of both Yin and Yang, and represents neutrality or balance.
Yin yang, chaos, and emotions. All not inherently good or evil. They simply exist. I don't think Sonic represents order or good. Sonic just does what comes naturally to him which can be interpreted as chaotic in a sense. Sonic's empathy for chaos and the love of his friends is what revived the emeralds and gave him the power to calm him down. That's why Sonic is peak fiction.
11:11
Even with the utterly dated graphics, this moment hits so hard and so good.
Imagine a remaster with current day graphics, honestly I'd rather have that than SA3
That moment just hits hard the music the cut to black then Super Sonic
Hell Yeah
haven't even played the game, and I completely agree
It technically aint my childhood but it gave me chills
Just like in the Archie Sonic verse. Eggman realized he hadn't been able to beat Sonic because basically Sonic is Chaos Theory incarnate. As a being that has been exposed to so much Chaos Energy, he has almost become chaos itself. It is impossible to plan around that which drove Eggman literally insane as he had a mental breakdown.
Plus Super Sonic is pretty OP. Like practically God levels of power.
Yeah even Mammoth Mogul, one of the oldest/greatest Chaos Wizards admitted defeat with that reasoning as well. He ascended to Godhood twice as Master Mogul, the same transformation that led to millions of universes destroyed with his bare hands, even stronger than Super Sonic and Super Knuckles together, still lost in the end.
His best solution was to just wait until Sonic dies of old age. I feel like they were getting somewhere with that concept in the games but ended at Sa2.
@@justcallmekai1554 Yeah Mogul called it a cosmic punchline he's gotten tired of. Which is actually pretty damn insightful of him.
When I think of Chaos Emeralds the sort of chaos that comes to mind is not the chaos as in the opposite of order, but the primordial chaos found in various mythologies. Usually this chaos is seen as a sort of dark ocean which the Gods use to create the world, so the Chaos Emeralds are the pure power of creation that could be good or evil depending on the imagination of the user.
By that logic Cosmos, despite the fact it’s not in the mythology, should be the antithesis because it ends at everything, rebirth and all that.
Came here to talk about a golden hedgehog, came out contemplating life.
Not alone. 💪
Perfect Chaos - that makes so much sense, with chaos and shadow and the biolizard - and even metal sonic - as aspects that all come together in Super Sonic.
With the power of the Chaos Emeralds, Chaos, the Guardian of the Chaos Emeralds and a colony of Chaos, becomes Perfect Chaos, and using that Chaos it causes Chaos across the city. So in turn, Sonic used his own form of Chaos with the Chaos Emeralds to become Super Sonic, a Perfect Chaos, and uses this Chaos to stop Chaos for causing more Chaos.
Seems pretty organised if you ask me.
I'm happy the world can celebrate the 30th anniversary of one of the greatest video game characters of all time... I am of course talking about motobug
I am of course talking about our boy Eggman
Something about modern Sonics design that I really like is his red eyes. I’ve always seen that as an expression of greater power, the same coloration given to Hyper Sonics eyes in the classics iirc. I’ve always interpreted that as the Super Form growing with the Emeralds during S3&K, and when they return to their Chaos states from that of their Super ones…they haven’t lost an OUNCE of power.
But yeah, a Hyper Go-On infused Sonic would make a great Hyper Form. I mean…They’re called HYPER GO-ON’S. JUST MAKE A HYPER FORM WITH THE WISPS-
Aren't Hyper Sonic's eyes green?
@@x-mighty7602 It might just be my memory from Sonic 3 AIR, and not the original, but Hyper has red eyes there.
I think all types of wisp can be infused into super Sonic so he can go hyper and do basically a perfect final color blaster.
"Goku is the OG he can dye it whatever he damn well pleases" Truer words have never been said
I for one, LOVE Fleetway Super Sonic, but your opinion on him was refreshing.
Super Sonic is my favorite thing in this franchise, and this video hit it right on the mark.
Today is Sonic's 30th, and I'm having identity crisis too with my channel. I want to do more Sonic videos, make my own original comic series, and do things that are out of reach for me right now, but if today has taught me anything, that we just gotta let go sometimes.
This afternoon, I'm gonna go with Sonic's mentality and just go feel free doing what I really want to do. Enjoy the weather, take some photos, and not stress myself out.
I feel free today, all my problems are gone for now. That's the gift of the 30th. Happy Birthday Sonic.
Small note : Hyper sonic actually has 2 differeny color sets, the rainbow one we already know, but it can also be a silver/white one. Since all colors of the rainbow when mixed together results in the color white
You can't make fan comics have the flashing colors, there isnt two color sets just one and a "good enough" solid white color for the comics
At least we know Super Sonic is coming back in Rangers.
is it?
@@lerona.martyr3811 If you believe the January leak, then it might be possible.
Yay..... who didn't see this coming?
How do u know?)
@@laserpester8137 A leak from someone saying they played sonic rangers way back in January 2020 and giving there review they said you collect chaos emeralds. And there is a super sonic final boss.
I was a late riser with sonic. First game was Sonic Adventure DX on the GameCube. I will never NOT lose my shit whenever I hear that Crush 40 Open Your Heart turn on. SUPERB video as usual Nick
11:13 this moment still sends shivers down my spine you did an amazing job hyping us up.
Won't lie, a life without chaos isn't a life worth living
Open your heart, it's gonna be alright
Embrace the chaos, beautiful commentary man. Great outlook man, hope they continue to always stress the importance of Super Sonic in the future games. Same with that rare Hyper sonic haha
“Why Super Sonic matters.”
Sega from 2012-2020: I’ll ignore that.
IDW Comics: Time to awaken the being that was dorment for years.
As chaotic as this fandom is, it will always warm my heart to hear the loyal fans of this blue blur can always see sonic what he can and could be!
#Happy30thSonic
Its honestly why i love and stick with the series even after shit like like Boom, Lost World and Forces. I know this series can reach the greatness it has had before with the classics, Adventure games, Unleashed, Generations and Colors and the potential and ambition 06 had. Not to mention the handheld games being great side games like Advance and Rush. Even its lore has a great amount of depth, its characters being great(besides the meta era which i hope we leave behind) and the messages these games subliminaly leave behind
Ever since I was a tiny kid, I always loved both super sonic and super sayan Goku, and I personally had always though super sonic was essentially sonic going super sayan, even though I didn`t know that DBZ was actually the inpspiration for thr transformation. seeing the transformation animation as a kid also really reminded me of the first time Goku went super, though now I would say it`s more reminiscent of whe goku or vegeta would really power up and release massive bursts of energy...
Man super sayans are just awesome, and super sonic is just as awesome...
This channel always get me in the feels, and reminds me why I will always love the sonic franchise even in it’s worst times.
Happy birthday, Sonic!
The perfect chaos
*I see what you’re doing,and I like it*
so is that the pun inspiration?
@@newi_the_deltafell_guy yes
As you described Super Sonic as the true embodiment of Perfect Chaos, I was reminded Eggman made a similar revelation while in jail under the Iron King and Queen’s regime in the Archie Comic series
This is strictly just what could have been gifted for the afterwards day of Sonic's birthday. Yet again, a very nice admiration to come out of Game Apologist doing the finest job ever.
In the Fleetway Comics the chaos emeralds were created by attempting to draw and compress evil into them. I guess okd Kintobor was trying to purify the world but messed up
Exactly this.
I find it odd that Sonic fans deny that Super Sonic is modeled after Super Saiyan. Like, it wouldn't be the first time that Sega got inspiration from Dragon Ball.
Alex Kidd was initially pitched as a Dragon Ball game. Hence the Journey to the West references, jankenpon boss fights, etc.
IIRC one of the reasons Sega don't want to bring back Hyper Sonic is because they didn't want the franchise to become like DBZ with the addition of more powerful forms (ofc I'm not sure if that reason is legit or not).
Yet Sonic X plus various other Sonic media are straight out shonen and Silver is quite an obvious allegory to Future Trunks. Tbh I get why some Sonic fans and Sega don't like the comparisons to DBZ however denying the unsubtle references/connections to it, is pretty foolish imo. If anything the Sonic franchise should embrace as well as own the fact it has a lot in common with DBZ.
"I think the reason why some of things are in this franchise is because it sounds cool"
Finally! I thought i was that only one! Take that Matpat!
Other people: "Sonic music lyrics are cheesy"
Me: *gets valuable life lessons outta them*
Sega & Sonic Team should Canonized Fleetway's Version, & Rename him "Chaos Sonic".
No.
@TrainerblueTube urm...it doesn't, the Chaos Emeralds were used to trap all the evil in the world but after it backfired and made Kintobor into Robotnik, there was still evil in them. When Sonic first got them all, the rest of the evil went into his Super Form and corrupted it. Absolute power corrupts Absolutely.
It also fits nicely that Sonic's nemesis is a roboticist whose ultimate driving force seems to be absolute control. Capturing animals because they are unpredictable and turning them into loyal minions. Changing nature into industrial production. Sonic is the wildcard that shatters Eggman's cold industrial paradise. While the battle between Sonic and Chaos was one of destructive chaos vs harnessed chaos, the conflict between Sonic and Eggman is a battle between Chaos and Order.
Perhaps the reason Eggman keeps trying to harness the Chaos Emeralds is because his ultimate goal is to bring the ultimate force of unpredictability into his system, and the reason he fails is because the Emeralds themselves resist being used in this way. Only one who represents a force of Chaos themselves can use the power of Chaos properly.
that mic drop of “that’s not perfect chaos this is” gives me chills
Hey dude,me and my friends watch your videos and it was totally worth it being subscribed.Thank you for your great videos.
Gosh darn it you got me with that “perfect chaos” transition 🔥
After watching this video the lyrics in Open Your Heart from Sonic Adventure that said “You and I are the same in a way that we have our own styles that we wont change. Yours filled with evil, mine is not” got a whole different meaning. It tells that Super Sonic and Perfect Chaos both have the same chaos. It also truly represents the clash between chaos filled with evil and chaos filled with good
People freaking out about different series lifting from Dragon Ball are the epitome of "Simpsons Did It" syndrome.
when you reached the perfect chaos (super sonic explanation) and gave the speech of embrace chaos it gave me chills, great job man
Honestly watching your videos on Sonic related stuff really puts me in a different point of view of characters, and other things in the franchise. That really helps. Thanks.
Also, I see how Super Saiyan and Super Sonic had a similar yet different concept. Super Saiyan was achieved by rage, your OWN power. While Super Sonic relied on total chaos, but in a calm sense. Controlling mayhem and craziness to your advantage. Both are powerful, and represent a fiery color and expression. Showing a combustion of energy, both can cause destruction. Super Saiyan and Super Sonic can be controlled, but in different ways. Super Sonic it was your choice to use it. While Super Saiyan had to be mastered and can be used for destructive purposes accidently from the rage. It unleashes it's own chaos in a way. However it's something that needs to be mastered by the user.
Yes, I am totally explaining this wrong.
This video is freaking immaculate. 10 seconds in and you not only read my mind, but made the exact joke I had hoped for lol.
Nick, you're killing it with this one! Literally had chills with your Super Sonic reveal even though you telegraphed it hard. Music choices throughout were phenomenal choices. Love that you made the WORD "chaos" the main point and analyzing it completely was a great choice.
The only minor point I think you missed was the obvious pun about "Sonic" going "Super Sonic" as that is a term in science to be faster than sound.
Thanks a thousand times for this video. Really loved this one!
"You take one look at Super Sonic and you know he's got this! Because he still exudes that WILD power, that intensity, that burning aura like a flame that not even this water deity can quell. There's this sheen of violent intensity, but he never lashes out, he never let's it out of control, he's a Sonic that means business! This is Chaos Controlled, This is Perfect Chaos, This is Super Sonic!"
I literally heard those words echo in the back of my mind the first time I saw Sonic 2 when it originally came out!
Used to think Goku would go Super Saiyan if he got all the Dragonballs due to Sonic getting the Emeralds. This was before I really got into the Dragonball series and learned otherwise since I was into the Sonic series first. Would have been interesting if Super Saiyan wasn't always available
11:08 "That ain't perfect chaos. This is." *Open Your Heart starting riff*
Nick, you absolutely delivered on this video. Thank you for this fantastic celebration of our blue (occasionally gold) boy and I'm looking forward to the next video, Sonic or not.
Open your heart is a great song to represent super sonic with lines like “open your heart everything’s gonna be alright” and the best variant is definitely frontiers
That last tangent at the end, tho.
Fun fact actually: The manga chapter that the Super Saiyan transformation debuted in was actually released in March 26, at least from the research I’ve done.
Didn't expect this video to go so deep into the parallel with the Super Saiyan transformation. I loved the similarities when I was a kid since I was (and still am) a fan of both these series. :D
I am surprised you didn't mention the importance of Tikal's prayer when it comes to harnessing the power of Chaos, especially relating it to Super Sonic.
*Chaos is power, enriched by the heart. The controller serves to unify the chaos.*
As you mentioned we see two different sides of Chaos being used. One to destroy anything and everything in it's path, and the other to protect.
"Tikal: The 7 Emeralds are the servers. Chaos is power, enriched by the heart. The controller serves to unify the chaos.
If I had a dime every time he said Chaos in this video, I'd have to many to count.
I don't know what it is but your delivery and the themes you choose really connect with me in a deep way. Please keep exploring the emotional core of the sonic universe.
Super sonic is a great reminder of how no matter how impatient sonic can get he still knows when to slow down and take care of something
Sonic Adventure was my very first Sonic game and I immediately fell in love I didn't even know Super Sonic existed until Months after I finished Sonic's story and completed the other character's campaigns and it was such a cool thing to come across. The feeling I felt when I saw him take the grey emeralds and still draw power from them after chaos had presumably won spoke volumes to me and still does to this day.
Honestly, I don't like the Sonic games but I love that you do and that it resonates so well with you. Rock on, homeskillet
I wonder what would be if Chaos (now no more corrupted) would absorb the positive energy of the emeralds. What would Chaos turn into, how would they look?
Good question
If A Hero Chaos Chao gives us any answers, then likley something similar to his Kaiju/Water Dragon form, but Seemingly more Angelic looking to display the Positive chaos Energy.
@@LeoSantano Reasonable approach. However, considering Chaos absorbed the negative powers, shouldn't Perfect Chaos have had a more "Dark Chaos Chao"/devilish look then?
If anything, whether or not Chaos was a "Hero Chaos" or "Dark Chaos" in his base form both would have a variation of the Perfect Chaos transformation, imo. We don't know how Chaos Chao relate to Chaos if at all. One was mutated the other was raised.
Very eloquently put Nick. Once again you've released some grade A content. The way that you state your case, explaining the demeanor of Super Sonic and it's connection to the Super Saiyan form means that you've put great thought into it and it was a joy to listen to. You are and enlightened individual.
Basically, Super Sonic went from being just a Super Saiyan-inspired powerup reward for pro players to being a godlike living symbol of light.
I don’t know how you always manage to give me chills when I watch your videos😭
i had a hard time paying attention over open your heart
it's such an awsome song
Dude what an AMAZING video. As a long time fan since Sonic 2, your videos always highlight the best elements of the series
Excellent video, as always. That has definitely given me another perspective on the 'chaotic' power that is Super Sonic. You have reminded me of one of my favourite childhood memories: watching Sonic X Ep. 26 and seeing Sonic transform for the first time in a short-but-sweet sequence where he destroys Eggman's Mech and saves Chris. The animation, design and colouring of the transformation, and the way he blasts through the Mech is what I love about Super Sonic; just like you said, chaos doesn't have to be a negative thing.
Actually no, the Super Saiyan made its debut in the anime ALSO in 1991.
The issue here is that the Super Saiyan wouldn't be showed in English languages not until the 2000
What about the manga?
Or did you mean the manga?
Edit: Oh I see what you were referring to
Chaos's Final Form should have been "Complete Chaos"
Fire video man I really love it when contact creators take the time to make a deep analysis and breakdown fictional characters keep up the hard work bro
When i hear about the word chaos i remember of Shadow The Hedgehog screaming "CHAOS CONTROL!"
Super Sonic has always been one of my favourite parts of Sonic lore, in all his forms.
I've never been good enough at video games to actually achieve the form on my own: I have a used copy of Classic Collection for the DS, which has all Emeralds as Sonic on its solo Sonic 3 file, and that's basically my singular option to play as him. But then, from a lore perspective, I still end up appreciating the idea.
Sonic isn't constrained by anything, of _course_ he'd be able to push past the limits of his base form.
In fact, that lack of game ability actually played a role in my opinion on how I prefer the form to work: Because I care more about story than gameplay, I've always preferred it when Super Sonic is only brought out for the finale. It just feels more dramatic than it being a form he can break out anywhere. I have no doubt that he _could_ bring it out anywhere, but for story reasons I like when it isn't. Sonic doesn't _need_ Super form to deal with Eggman's nonsense, not anymore, anyway.
I'm generally not a proponent of the "Sonic gets more powerful with every game" theory, but I can totally buy that Super Sonic just isn't something Sonic needs to fight Eggman post-classics.
As for the Fleetway version... well, one of my favourite tropes is the Superpowered Evil Side, so.... yeah, I kinda love it. As far as corrupted Super forms go, it's _way_ better than fuccin' Dark Super, which is just the most basic option they could've gone for. And with the general personality of STC's Sonic, and the lore surrounding the Chaos Emeralds in that universe (STC is _very_ different, basically nothing is the same as it is in the games, but I don't really think that's a bad thing), it does at least make sense.
I could see that version of Super Sonic working as a sort of... incomplete form. What would happen if Sonic lost control, if he tried transforming without all of the Emeralds. More like what would really happen if Sonic was overwhelmed by the negativity that created Perfect Chaos and the Ultimate forms of the Gizoids, instead of some generic darkness form.
Perfect chaos isn’t the name of the boss. It’s the name of the battle! Both sides of chaos lashing out and fighting with each other is truly perfect chaos
Awesome video man thanks for making it really enjoyed
I forgot how much I love this series.So many of these things that you’ve said gave me goosebumps.Nice appreciating a big part of what made Sonic.
1:09 Damn, Nick's spittin bars.
Nick coming in with the BARS like a jail cell
Happy 30th Sonic! This one's for you!
*Eats a lemon*
You always make incredible analogies. Love your videos.
I always love these videos of yours. Keep up the good work man!
Are you a writer? Halfway through the video you started talking about Super Sonic with such poetic intensity, I could have sworn I was listening to an Audible book or something. I have never looked this deep into this blue hedgehog, and kept thinking 'what's the big deal? It's just Super Sonic', but this one video made me subscribe and like because you talked about such a simple topic with such unique, fiery enthusiasm.
And if you're having an identity crisis, change your channel name. :) I've only seen this one video of yours. but before I watch another one, I will gladly back your Sonic adventures whatever you call your channel.
Facts: Hedgehogs don't have quills. They have spines.
I like to believe they’re **Chaos** Emeralds because they’re powers aren’t set in stone, there isn’t any order in what they can do because they can do anything without prediction, they’re infinite only limited by their user’s imagination.
Y'know, I love your videos. I've already said so multiple times in just the past couple of days, but I really do. Some 90% of my exposure to Sonic the Hedgehog has been through videos like yours and TGC, and because of these videos, I honestly have become a Sonic fan, even when I haven't had the opportunity and resources to play all the games like I'd love to. So thank you for all the work you put into this hobby turned (maybe) job (if I'm remembering right), and thank you for all the wonderful things you have put out for me to brighten up my days with.
Remember when Super Sonic was an option that had different outcomes/endings rather than a Plot Device.
Well he's that in Mania, but nowadays in the mainline 3D games he's been reduced to an unlockable god mode, and sometimes even DLC.
I love Sonic, Shadow and the others, they are my heroes.
I don't usually comment on videos but I just wanted to say how much I really like your videos and how they sometimes give me a whole new perspective on the Sonic series and thus makes me appreciate it even more. I really love Super Sonic because I feel like he represents the overcoming of our obstacles and challenges, throughout our adventure we sometimes die or fail but we keep persevering through it all because we are determined to get to the end. I remember trying to get Super Sonic in Sonic 2 and constantly failing because I kept getting hit by bombs and ending up not getting enough rings but I tried to remember the layout of the special stages and kept on trying to get the Chaos Emeralds until I eventually did and was rewarded with Super Sonic. I really love the Perfect Chaos fight in particular because Perfect Chaos is made out of water and Sonic's weakness is not being able to swim, which kinda goes back to what I said about Super Sonic representing us growing as people and overcoming what we once feared and getting through tough times which is really cool imo. Though, this could be just how I see it.
that meme at the start with chaos lol someone needs to take that clip but then in every clip theres chaos from sonic adventure
Honestly, all jokes aside when I first think of Chaos I think of the water monster Chaos
imagine seeing super sonic down the street
It was 91 when the race begun 16 bits and the Green Hill Zone racing at high-speed through all the levels .
I digress honestly I've been waiting for this video for a while I'm glad that you did and I can finally see it
Dude this was amazing! Keep moving forward!