I ordered a trailer from Overkill in 2021. I have never received my trailer. I paid this company $37,000. My refund request has gone unanswered….Currently in the process of filing a lawsuit..
Well I liked this camper so much I put 8000 down on it last August. I had to cancel, but am still waiting for a refund been almost 5 months now. I know a lot of other people waiting on refunds or trailers that they can't process. They just merged with a big company to make their trailers now. But everyone before this merge is out of luck right now.. they say they'll hold up their end, but we'll see. Be aware everyone.
Glad I came to the comments before finishing the video. Some saying damn near 50 k and then also reporting not getting the trailer or having tons of issues. What a shame.
I placed an order for a 510 SO in Feb 2021 and was told 6-7 months build time (Sept-Oct). Finally received it in July 2022. Yup 18 months. Discovered a leaky roof in Aug, diesel heater fail in Oct, and warped door and doorway in Nov. I took the trailer back in Jan 2023 and Dave resealed the slide-out, fixed the door/doorway issue and installed dual heaters (one for water heater and one for cabin heat). He also upgraded the thermostat to easier functioning one (all work was covered by warranty). I picked it up in Feb and so far so good (with minor issues). There are some pending customers who are at the two year mark waiting for their trailers and that may be extended with the new partnership. I like the trailer and it works for me. Do your research (other social media platforms) before you decide.
We have had a couple of people ask about how the slide-outs are sealed. Would you be able to speak to that? I really appreciate your comment here. I think there is a lot of good information for people to read. I especially like the update about the warranty work. I think this is a question many people have as well.
@magneto9555 that’s a good way of putting it. Fortunately, they are now out of business. This trailer though is still being sold under the name. Epik RV.
ok, that pull out stove needs adjustable folding legs with a wire rack or some such rt there below the stove w/ it's own ability to pull out forward at least 4-5 " for tongs, fork, hot pads. lid.,& where tf is a bracket 4 mini fire ext.? cause rt now with all that on the pull out has got to be nearing the500# limit 4 those roll outs & the further the weight is from the attached fixture, the more sag & sway there is !meaning the increased risk of never being able to slide them back in without a hammer! maybe guy wires from the roof to the end of the first pull out& a locking mech to prevent it from misaligning from a bump.
Overkill has literally stole at least $200k+ from its customers and now went and opened a new business caller Adventure series RV. They took deposits & some second payments from customers from as far back as 3 years ago and still, these customers don't have a camper or returned money. We have documented proof of all the customers that have been ripped off. I was told just today by Brandon that I will not be receiving my deposit back cause they don't have the money to give me. There are currently several lawsuits, with more to come soon, complaints filed with the Oregon Department of Justice, federal trade commission, and suspected VIN fraud.
Now they are hiding out claiming they have all went to Pennsylvania where they just announced their new venture.. Adventure Series RV LLC. They are still using the Overkill name to drum up business even though Overkill is done producing campers. This was all confirmed by Xtreme outdoors RV, who they have entered into an agreement with. There are 10- 20 customers that have given them money to produce campers that are now left high & dry cause they have no money to pay them back or the capital to produce campers for them.
Then there is the defect complaints of leaky campers, binar heaters not working, water heaters not working, electrical failures, bent rear frames. They assured customers they would stand behind their work but many have been waiting months, years and they never did the repairs. Their shop in Bend will be closed down next week and just like that they are gone but still asking for deposits from people when they have not even produced anything for those of us that already gave them money. BUYERS BEWARE! Do your research, check other websites, Facebook groups, Oregon DOJ consumer protection site. The information is now all out in the open, so don't get screwed like the rest of us. I now have no camper and out thousands of dollars I cannot recover.
Woot woot, looks like someone's comment got through. And by the way, thanks for taking my advice on breaking your comment up. I appreciate that you got the chance to post.
It's a real shame that there are so many bad comments and customer experiences surrounding this company. The trailer is actually a really cool design. It all goes to show you, that the company matters as much as product.
No reason to delete comments. Overkill themselves posted on IG that all existing customers are screwed unless their new manufacturer can bail them out.
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@@BrandonOverkill Phrase it as you like, but doesn't seem that far fetched. The success of Xtreme, by Overkill's own announcement, will determine whether Overkill customers are made right. New customer production and deposits done through Xtreme. Customers prior to the partnership who have already given up money get to sit and watch while those who order through Xtreme take delivery of trailers. If, and only if, Xtreme can produce enough to turn enough profit can the original customers hope to get something back, after filling the other obligations.
I immediately noticed the light coming through the storage box door, the gap under the slideout bed, and I'm sure the other slide outs don't have gaskets ethier. Next... I would never have any camper with any "canvas". And you're correct about the importance of a covered kitchen not depending on an awning. I do 99 percent of my cooking outside. But on those crappy days I like the option of being able to do some lite food prep inside.
This man was part of another camper trailer company that left some folks stranded. The only reason I remember this is because they made some really interesting mini campers. They were the first on my radar. They got over booked and the quality went down and people had to wait forever for their trailers and got a poor quality rig. Not sure about this but I'd be careful until they start putting these things out.
Hi Jeff. Any chance you can remember the name of that company? I'm wondering if it was the same company? They used to make a smaller version called the T.K.47. It is the original trailer that caught my eye from them. They actually decided to bring it back into production soon. Good cautionary advice here Jeff. Thank you for sharing. With any of these trailers we all need to do our thorough research.
Never apart of another trailer company, you must be thinking of another manufacturer. There have been several who have tried with less than optimal outcomes over the years.
The slide-out have a basic heavy duty rubber flap/seal on the sides. Mine leaked on the first trip out. I was in Wyoming and got a good rain squall for about an hour. I noticed water beading on the inside roof line seam of the SO. It was enough to drip. Once I returned home I checked the roof of the SO but did not see any obvious cracks in the roof sealant or missing sections. I did mention it Dave but didn't receive any real solutions. In Jan 2023 when I took the trailer back for the warped door and door frame, Dave removed the SO and resealed it, while we waited for the new heater to arrive. Last month I was in S/W Montana and camped two days in a blowing snow storm. No more leaks and there were no more drafts around the front of the SO. The drafts had been noticeable and had the added joy of blowing diesel exhaust in the cabin from the heater. This set of the CO2 alarm chirping. SO far everything is running good. Fingers crossed.
I’m glad you finally reviewed this trailer. There isn’t a ton of information/reviews about this company/trailer and I have been interested in them for awhile. I’d love to see them succeed in their business.
I put my order in for a Tk-47 in December of 20. It took 14 months to get my camper. I'm not sure where Overkill went wrong. I have been somewhat satisfied with the build. It has some bugs that I feel as though I am on my own with, as I have tried to contact both Brandon and Dave. I guess at this point, I should be fortunate to have a trailer? I really hope Overkill can turn things around and make things right with the people that invested with them. I hope for the best for both Overkill and their investors. Stay positive friends and remember, tomorrow is a new day.
Wow 14 months is an incredibly long time. I am sure you thought you were going to loose your money. What kind of build/trailer issues have you experienced? Sad you pay “big money” for a camper and it has problems and then the customer service is not good. I could possibly deal with problems and poor customer service if you were paying a whole lot less.
@Garret Lewis The overall design is good...but, some of the engineering is lacking. My biggest issue at the moment is the canopy...the mounting system they used allows to much movement...the heating system hasn't worked right since I got it. I had to replace parts on the water system and been having trouble with the pump not priming...There's a long list...these are just a few...
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. And the words of wisdom near the end was a nice touch! I can't imagine what they folks are going through. But, like you I hope the best for them.
It is crazy to think that 14 months to 2 years was the average time for getting trailer these past 3 years. And this was all across the industry. That is why companies like Bean, Hiker, and a handful of others took such pride in a quick turnaround. And they took advantage of it. So many people were not willing to wait that long and ended up going with manufacturers that could pump out trailers quickly. Those with strong business models really won during this pandemic. And I think we will probably see a shakeout in the near future regarding what companies will continue on. So much growth so fast, sounded like a good thing to many manufactures. But many were not aware of how difficult that transition of scaling would really be.
I remember seeing these guys for the first time at overland expo west maybe 2 or 3 years ago. It was mind blowing to see a slide out on a micro camper. I love the pop top. Much better than a rooftop tent. I hope they do well this time around.
Good seeing you on here. I felt the same ways as you when I first saw this trailer. I think they are onto something really special here. Like you said, lets hope this new partnership takes them in the right direction.
Yeah, rooftop tents can be good if you've got people you want separated from you, but the pop top is great for giving more inside space, while also still having some separation. Plus, if ya put climate control in it, everyone can benefit from it
Very nice trailer I only hear a lot of complaints. That’s too bad crazy very nice design and these days everything is so expensive. I just wish they can figure out their financing. Just like most companies running into issues. We need more American products.
BRAD YOU ARE ALWAYS HERE AT THE RIGHT TIME! I so appreciate this. It has been a wild day. I don't even have time for that coffee today. Looks like coffee is on Brad tomorrow.
With the size of the slide out, I suspect that they are just using heavy duty "drawer" slides underneath it. You can get 500lb rated industrial drawer slides and use multiple of them to carry plenty of capacity. Since the slide has a bed on it, you don't have to have any magic "full extension" system: part of the bed still overlaps/stays inside the trailer, which is what allows you to use conventional double-extension drawer slides. And if you're very clever, you actually install the drawer slides "backwards", so that they are in the extended position when the slide is in. This is mostly a benefit because it keeps your glides protected from the elements because they are not exposed when the slide is out. But this is just my speculation and recommendation on how to recreate this system effectively and economically without fancy fabrication.
100% agree on the 270 awning. I have a trashed one sitting on the side of my house from high wind damage. A random gust on a calm day ruined it. now I use cheaper tarps and poles instead of a high cost replacement.
There's a lakeside campsite I use during the winter where the wind has torn up any canvas left out. My grandkids tried sleeping in a tent next to me and ended up piling in with me
I'm researching teardrop designs for a DIY build and this one really stands out. It's a great layout and the engineering challenges to designing the popup top and slide out side would be a lot of fun to work through. Thanks for the notice there at the end though, it sounds like this company has changed since your interview and those looking at purchasing from them should probably think twice.
I’ve used the rove rental overkill trailers a couple times. I actually really like them. This trailer in the video fixes a lot of the issues I had with the ones I rented. My only big issue at this point is the price point. I added a bunch of stuff that I’d like and brought the price to about $55k. I love this trailer at $30k. At the price that I got to it pushed me into looking at larger off-road trailers. Into the $75k-100k range. I’m aware that not everyone can do this but for me the $55k price is a lot not a small chunk of money. So if I’m doing that I feel like I get a lot more for my money to go for a 19ft off-road trailer.
Jared, I would be curious to hear what issues you saw with the older model. It seems like there’s never been a model that hasn’t had some problems that they’ve had continuous changes so we don’t really know how they had a model that never had a failure.
@@brigittebrugger3345 so one of the ones I rented had one of the rear upper shelves riveted in. I put a 2 gallon water tank up there. Went down the road. Not off-road though. Not yet at least. Stopped and realized the shelf had ripped out of the wall. Seemed odd to have such a low weight rating on it. Also the heater I had was the forced air heater and the control was very very finicky. Had to get it right when setting it up and it even shut off at night. Really nice to have the heat when it worked though. Also rear tire carrier was sort of odd in the way that it opened and locked open. Was pretty tough to get it to start swinging closed and to latch closed. The slide was difficult to get the pin in and out but not impossible but was an issue slightly. Also the water heater we had was one of those Instant water heaters. It wasn’t bad but I like the new style. I don’t think they’ve fixed this next issue but I’d really love a kitchen that didn’t have to have any cables or lines connected. Where they just stayed connected, either that or put them in a better, easier to reach location.
@@17fourU yeah I agree. We have decided to do a larger camper, the more traditional campers that you see at the RV dealerships. We we able to find a used one for a really good price. 1 year old. Has bunks for the kids, outdoor kitchen, 2 slides, a full shower and the same amount of fresh water as the overkill camper. Only paid $18k though. We also bought a topper for the truck, and a massive rooftop tent. Reason being. We are on the east coast. Usually only go camping on the weekends. So decided to just take the camper and park it at a camp site with water and electric hookups and unhook and go explore that area and trails in just the truck. This way if we find a cool primitive camp site we can open the RTT and camp there. Then head back to the big camper and take showers and eat dinner and such. The price difference between the overkill $55k price point and the $18k we paid we can pay for a camp site a whole lot before we hit the $55k price point.
Thank you for sharing this. I am being optimistic here. But I am very hopeful the new partnership can get this trailer back on the road. I doesn't dismiss what has been done in the past, but I sure would like to see this trailer being produced in the future.
My uncle in California has been ghosted for over 30,000 of which I invested 10k for a hunting trailer. Nothing going on three years. Numerous attempts to get ahold of them with no response. Watch your channel and to my surprise guess who pops up. The man no one has heard from for years. Steer clear of this crowd! Brandon is not a truthful person looks like attorney time unfortunately
Drew should really put a pinned comment explaining Overkill's current state. They're out of business and have, as you can see in the comments below, left many people hanging. As someone who's newly interested in small campers, I'm learning to avoid fly-by-night companies that promise the world in a camper. They're clearly not up to the task.
Love your videos! You are sharing information not selling an item. The learning part of your videos make me understand what to look for and maybe improvements on what I have
Exactly. And that is big to people in Oregon. Last summer I was battling for campsites across the State. I was forced to stay in multiple rest stops and a cracker barrel and the weather wasn't great. I was lucky that I had a galley hatch to work under.
Great video sir! The camper trailer is definitely impressive and also a big Kudos to you for including concerns about questionable lead times and large deposits. Most channels run more like advertising for companies and never voice these kind of concerns for obvious reasons. Glad to see some integrity shining through. Keep up the good work!
Sarah that is absolutely not true. Go back and check out my responses. If you follow them, you will most likely get through. Go check out @mt baker snow removal. He is patient and found a way to get them through.
Thanks David. I appreciate the kind words. Now to find a way to get these comments to not get deleted. Haha. But, it looks like some of the folks are figuring it out.
@@BrandonOverkill I can verify that. The website was working last week, but then I exchanged emails with Brandon letting him know that certain portions were not working correctly. He has a team currently working on the changes.
I don’t know I’m starting to wonder about the integrity of the trailer sounds to me like the steel chassis would’ve been a better choice, considering we really don’t know what grade is being used in this trailer
I rented this exact trailer from Rove Rentals. Was really nice except only a couple things I’d change. “Memory foam” mattress (LOL) was terribly stiff, and the window screens are easy to knock out while sleeping in the slide out. The Snomaster fridge was great.
Clearly the Swiss Army Knife of trailers! Just two additional steps when you pull into a rest stop for lunch or set up in return for less wind resistance towing. Though the fabric expansion is not insulated and prone to ware, several manufactures utilize this solution in truck campers too. The lock-n-roll coupler is excellent for off road and current back-up cameras make lining one up it easy. However, the tongue weight of this trailer would drop the rear of a typical mid-sized truck or SUV about an inch and heavy duty shocks are recommended when one lifts the TV. I'd recommend an Old Mam Emu lift to solve this
NOPE. Based on the comments; I wouldn’t touch this dog turd with a 10 foot pole. I’m guessing this is the tip of the iceberg for a lot of these companies that were happy to sell you a tiny off-road camper at Airstream prices.
I couldn't find any pricing on their website. Thanks for including it in the video. Looks incredibly well built except the metal tangy sound. Thanks as well for including the pros and cons.
Yes, I would really appreciate it manufacturers would be more upfront with their pricing. Fortunately over the last few years I am seeing more and more manufacturers being transparent with their pricing.
Yeah, I too always like to see and know the price. Not knowing the price is kind of like applying for a job and not knowing the starting pay. Come on Overkill, be more transparent on your pricing.
so many features remind me of pop-ups but this looks far more durable. Love the extended kitchen area--even though I don't cook and the fact that you can stand up and walk around. The slide being manual is also nice.
Be cautious doing business with overkill. As I understand, extreme outdoors and little guy trailers will be building this model out of PA now. Wait for them to start production.
Drew as usual kudos as you did a great job on this review. In my opinion and if installed correctly Timbrens are a good suspension. They help keep this trailer light. They tow on the road better then many of the trailing arm suspension and have been around for a long time. I will admit I would never take this this expensive of a trailer on any crazy jeep trails. That chassis looked bolted and not so sure about its longevity. The whole slide out sure allows for a lot of room inside but more moving parts...scary. The heater again lots to go wrong there. Frig, stove are top knotch. Like you flashed on the video this trailer is likely 2,300 pounds not under 2,000. Tounge weight with loaded trailer and that huge boxy tounge box my guess 350 to 400 pounds. So IMHO not jeep wrangler towable. Very unique build. So I have been following these guys for a while now. Expedition Portal has a huge string about deposits and 1 to 2 year weight times, law suits , false promises and owners hiding from being served. I have no idea if all are true but there are a lot of posts. FB groups as well. I did call extreme outdoors thier new partner. I finally got to the finance extention where a lady answered the phone. It took several attempts. I asked her what she knew about this merger with overkill. She said sir I have no information about Overkill but I can take your number and pass this on to someone in our organization that may have knowledge of overkill. 5 minutes later I got a call from Brandon. So I guess this verify s the merger maybe. If I was waiting for a overkill trailer with a huge deposit on the line I would not be happy with Overkill working on returned rental rigs. Also I am a bit worried about RKS. They went silent last August. That purpose trailer is way cool. Don't understand why they are not selling
Thanks Bart! I agree I think Timbren is perfect for our family. Just the right amount of weight and functionality. We find it is a bit too heavy for our newest trailer, but that is a unique trailer. Although it is too heavy we are still installing Timbren on it. We just wish there was an independent suspension out there that was a little bit lighter for our build. Good eye on the bolted comment. I usually am against moving parts as well. But something like this, is so advantageous to the build. And it doesn't scare me away since observing so many homebuilds recently with slide-outs. So far I haven't read about one with any failures. They have had failures in other parts of their build, but not the slideouts like I expected. However, I am not an off roader. With offroading, I see how this could maybe be a concern. And also good point on the tongue weight. With those incredibly large boxes it could get out of control really fast! I have been following the posts as well. To be honest it is nothing new in the industry especially during Covid. But, the differing factor is these large deposits. Everyone else who has been standing in a build que for 14 months to 2 years has remained somewhat patient because they have no skin in the game or maybe $500-$2,000. But when you are talking about handing over $30-$40K and waiting for 14 month to 2 years I could see how this gets amped up a bit. We have heard from hundreds of people over the last three years about wait times, slow communication etc. But again the voice are a little quieter when they don't have much invested. Great job verifying that merger by the way. That was a simple, but smart way of doing it. Also good point about the rental rig repairs. I didn't even think of that when I edited the video. I do wonder though how much of this has to do with supply chain issues and labor force issues. This is plaguing the industry as a whole. We even mentioned it in our build video. It set us back so much that we ended up just grabbing the all-in-one power system from Ecoflow. It turned out to be a blessing, but at the time I was chomping at the bit to get out and we couldn't get the supplies we needed. Basically the build got delayed an entire year. Interesting statement about RKS. A good place to find out more about that would be XGRID in Las Vegas beings they carry RKS as well as all the other fun Australian campers. Thanks for the really thoughtful comment. It was fun seeing this trailer through your eyes.
@@PlayingwithSticks glad to contribute. What maybe separates Overkill from other trailer manufacturers that have supply chain and labor shortage issues is thar statement by the owner in IG. They don't have the funds to build any of the trailers or refund any of the deposits folks have down on these trailers. If I understand his post correctly they will need to take orders and build new customers rigs first then maybe from those profits start going back and building the back ordered trailers. That is a ponzi scheme is it not? Then again the other alternative is bankruptcy and nobody gets anything but legal fees. So any criticism you maybe getting doing this video may in fact help all these folks by helping overkill rebound and make amends. Who knows. Hard saying not knowing. I have asked Loren at xgrid about RKS and he does not really have an answer. I don't think he has heard from them. Probably what'd happened is they are seeking investors with production on hold. Very well designed and build rigs FYI- I waited 17 months for my Trail Marker with two large deposits and it was very stressful. All worked out so I hope the same for all the Overkill folk
@@bartman1857 I am not justifying what they are doing. As you can tell from the post there will be lawsuits coming their way. You can tell they are trying to get ahead of them and get production going before more lawsuits tumble in. My optimistic side is hoping the folks over on the East Coast can ramp up production on this and make things better. Obviously they can't make things right, because what is done has been done.
@@bartman1857 I hope at some point these trailer manufacturers face some competition and are forced to remove these ridiculous down payment requirements.
Thanks for this review. My nitpicks: 1. Timbren is a Canadian company and their suspensions are super simple, but they can't be used for auto-leveling like airbags can. 2. The Binar heater is Russian-made and vulnerable to supply chain issues. They should have used Rixen/Espar. 3. The slide out is cool, but no topper for debris or explanation of how well it's sealed from the elements, dust, bugs, and rodents. 4. The kitchen placement is off in terms of workflow. Designed by an engineer, not someone who cooks.
I have had a defective trailer since day 1 fills with water, bowed out door, walls bubbling. Been promised a replacement for two years now they default. Brandon is a L I A R
You have the second camper ever sold. Many improvements to our construction techniques, materials and components used since your build. You have been offered free warranty repairs for years, and refused except for one time. I never promised a replacement, we offer a buyback because you were so eager to get a new one. Also you have told people you design secret equipment for OverKill, interesting to point the finger and call a person a L I A R. I had never spoken to you until Expo of PNW 2022.
Awesome camper. Maybe the stove slide could articulate closer to the back cover. But ive never seen such a versatile camper. The queen slide and pop up, the pass thrus, heating system, very well done. Covered everything.
That is a really good thought. When Charles first was working on our camper design he made articulating slide-outs for the fridge. Like you said it would allow it to swing out. Great idea! And I agree with you completely. This trailer does a lot of things well.
As with all our videos the price is in there. I can't remember off the top of my head, but the base model was high $30K and the model with the pop-top was lower $40K. I can't remember the exact number.
@@PlayingwithSticks It's buried near but not near enough to the end and isn't easy to find. And there are no prices on their Web site at all. It's an awesome camper, but just too steep for me.
It really is unique and creative. I love seeing people work outside the box, but in a practical way. Often times these camper companies come up with new flashy designs, that look great, but in theory don't work to well in the wild.
That pass-through maybe could use a bug screen that could be held by velcro or magnets. Would prevent mosquitos or flies or other from entering the cabin area via that opening.
Thanks Matt! That means a lot coming from you. I was just telling Colorado Mallcrawlers about you yesterday. I was telling him how I wanted to partner with you and then life got in the way. I still really feel bad about dropping the ball on our meet up. Thanks again for being so understanding.
Is that official? I’ve been trying to find anything official regarding this. Down webpage, broken partnership on the East Coast. But for an actual announcement, I’m having trouble finding one. I appreciate you updating me on this.
Great review! I have been looking for a small compact trailer that will work for our small family of 4 yet still fit in my garage. Currently we all fit in the Roofnest Condor which is on our Tundra. The new trailer designs are getting so good and way more practical. I appreciate your reviews of these types of products. It really helps.
I have seen the base price mentioned here and it seems low. Which is a good thing. In Feb 2021 my base price was 30K. Later in the process I was told base was 35-40K with a fully loaded trailer with all options was upwards of 50-60K. If they have brought their price point down that is good news for new customers. I dont know this new manufacturing company or how they operate. I am curious to see how long the actual production time is. I was told by Overkill in the beginning it 6-7 months. 18 months later I took delivery. Good luck to the first customer with this new company. If it was my company Id give huge discounts to attract buyers especially with the pending Overkill customers in limbo.
Thanks for the good luck. I've been waiting 19 months since reserve deposit. They got the construction deposit 14 months ago. Brandon won't communicate with me so I have no idea what my money is being used for, not to build my trailer apparently. Hearing about all your problems makes me wish I could just get my money back, at least they fixed it.
solid review. I love that it fits in a garage. I also agree about the fridge being where it is instead of in the back near the burners. I'm sure you have a recommendation for one that has the whole galley in the rear. at $44k, its super nice, but not for me.
It's just dawned on me. Instead of Overkill taking 75% down 60 days before the start of a build they should join the dealer network of Little Guy Trailers. Then folks would only need to put down a typical deposit. However my guess is Little Guy won't even start production until they have orders on the books. Catch 22 for sure.
Do those outside lights demonstrated at 8:16 change color temperature, as well? Blue-white is great when maneuvering, but the rest of the time I'd prefer warm lights to be less harsh on my eyes and the wildlife's, particularly before bed-and I know from experience that I often go to bed asap after arriving at a campsite at night.
I love all the functionally they packed into this bad boy. Being able to stand up and put on pants without issue on of the best features of this trailer as well.
I would suggest you spend some more time hanging out in this community. You will learn quickly why everyone here runs from trailers built in Elkhart Indiana. I think you will appreciate the community and getting a better grasp of the large rv industry vs what we highlight on this channel. It's fun seeing you checking out these videos. I see you just saw Hiker trailer as well. There are other trailers in that price range that use composite materials instead of the wood that made you hesitate. It makes me hesitate as well.
I couldn't agree more about the kitchen and it's location on this would be a deal breaker for me. The one on this critter is ridiculous, especially if it's an all-weather camper.
Wow Drew!! I am so impressed you mentioned the suspension...totally agree and you forgot to mention the leveling ability or lack there of. Also, the hitch is as middle of the road as the suspension. The D035 by cruisemaster and the Mchitch are kind of the defacto upper end hitches. You even mentioned the pressurization...I swear we'll make an overland out of you yet :) I would add that the front boxes seem really thin and will take a lot of abuse and not sure how well over time they will hold up, most put some kind of raptor coating or diamond plating for protection. Now for the coup de gra THe Awning...I lauged out loud literally and totally appreciate the poke...LOL Maybe one day you'll come around but apparently today isn't the day. One thing about awning I haven't seen you cover is the ability to put up awning walls and create an enclosed outdoor area which comes in really handy sometimes. I don't have the experience you have but after 3 years of using my awning system in gusts as high 30-30 mph winds I just can't get on your page. I've only ever used one awning and I defer to your much deeper experience. I question the seals on the slide out, durability, fit, etc. I like the same stuff you do including the abilit yto use it on the road without having to open the slide. Very thoughtful and well built trailer even if the hitch and suspension could be better. The put fantastic gear on the trailer including the electronics. When you talk about weight I always have mixed feelings. I''m just not sure what constitutes heavy in this class of trailer as comparing apples to apples is so difficult amongst the trade offs. It sure does weigh more than 600lbs but not as much as 5000. If the target audience has small crossovers that are rated at 1500 then this is really heavy but if the have medium suv then 5000 is average and this is fine. I really like the potential of this trailer as I lean toward overlanding as you know and there is a lot to love here. Great job as usual Drew!!!
Love that you mentioned the hitch. I was going to add that with text, but I forgot to put it in there. I still like the rock n' roll and the timbren if weight is a big factor. But most people building a camper like this aren't as concerned about weight as I am. I have used the cruisemaster on the Bean trailers. It is exactly as you explain it. I have never seen the Mchitch in person. I am actually taking my first serious overlanding trip this summer. Brigham from Bean trailer wants to show me the ropes. He says we will be in situations where the additional overlanding accesories will actually be used. I think for me it has been hard to see the value, because I haven't ever need them. I am super excited thinking about this trip. I will do my best to film a bit along the way. And I agree I absolutely love the awning walls. We actually had them custom made for our Bean trailer. It was fun being able to prototype it for them. The only thing that was hard for me was determining how long to make the sidewalls. On some terrain they were even with the ground, some bunched up, some floating in the air, and some terrain I couldn't even get the stakes in the ground due to the walls floating so high. Glad I didn't have to make that final decision of wall height. Haha. And I don't have issues with high winds. Somebody watched our video the other day and said we were staking out our guy lines too far. But, we have had no issues when at camp. The awning holds well with high winds. It is setting up or taking down in high winds where we were losing the battle. But I am learning from the overland community that some awnings tend to be better than others. Looks like the brackets and support are much beefier on other models. But then at the same time I have been told the brackets are wimpy, so that when the wind does take the awning you don't damage the awning, you just have to replace the brackets. Which was very easy to do. I also am still a little hesitant on slide-outs, especially for offroad use. But, I have been closely following homebuilds that use slide-outs and they are still having the same water issues with the galley and seems on the trailer, but nobody has mentioned any issues with their slide-outs. So that has given me a bit more confidence in this area. But again, these people aren't pulling their trailer through creek beds and on difficult terrain. Yes, very good point on the weight. My thought on weight is that the technology is available to make the same size trailer, at similar strength and size so why not do it. I believe some of this overkill in the market is truly overkill. I would like to see some manufacturers take some risks and stop trying to please the public. I would like to see someone truly prove to us all that a trailer can go literally anywhere and not have to be a giant steel cage on the road. I really think it is possible. I think someone just needs to help change our perspectives. Pat, as usual thanks for the detailed feedback. I know a lot of people are reading these comments from you and getting a lot out of them. With your experience in the overlanding world I look to you for help in this area. This is definitely one of my weaknesses.
My concerns about slides have always been about the potential for leaks and mechanical issues. This being a manual slide could possibly eliminate some of the mechanical issues. There is still the potential for water intrusion. I wonder what the builder has done to address these? If they are “over built”, I would think they would at least have considered these potential problems.
Drew, I love the flashback of you and May dealing with the awning in the wind! She sounds ready to drive off and let the awing drag behind the trailer! 😀 You are so restrained! If it were me, I'd have to bleep out a few words in the audio! 😀
You nailed it. She was over it. As you could probably tell from her voice it wasn't the first time we have had issues with this style of awning. I am still really interested in giving a smaller square rooftop awning a chance. I did have a couple people in the community chime in about it though and said they had the same issues. To the point where one was worried about dislocating their shoulder. And with my bad shoulders that doesn't give me much confidence. As for restrained I think I was more in shock. It happened so fast. A minute earlier the wind died down so we knew we had the chance to get the awning down. We were held captive there due to the wind. But unfortunately just as I got the stakes removed the wind picked right back up and throw it out of both of our hands. I was a little shook up too, because the guy line got a bit tangled up on May in the process. Quite scary. I kept yelling at her "just let it go." And she was yelling "I'm Trying." Haha. Quite wild.
@@PlayingwithSticks Wow! If I had seen that in the video, I would definitely never consider an awning! 😀 I bought another item you've highlighted: the Clam tent. I love it! I would worry about it in a high wind, though. 😊
I couldn’t help but notice when he was sitting on the bed you could see daylight underneath where I assume would be the pull out. Definitely not going to stay cool or warm in this thing without effort also for that price I’d take a brand new Coleman Lantern 17 footer for $16k and have room to walk and a bathroom it does weigh 3000 instead of 2300 but honestly that shouldn’t matter much considering how much more camper you get. It’s even ready for solar and has a nice compartment up front (storage) that could hold 4 solar batteries easily and be out of the way.
for me, if the "camp" trailer requires you to go outside for anything, it's a "no go" however, if it offers the ability to cook inside AND outside it can be a plus. But that's just where i'm at and what i'm looking for right now. The trailer(s) look amazing though otherwise.
Some ideas I like, some I don't. Still have to cook outside with the flies crawling all over your breakfast, not to mention cold or wind and rain issues.
I have only talked about it in expensive overlanding videos. I think it may have just been the European video and the Overland vs. Traditional. We are creating a very budget version in our current trailer that uses SUV filters you can pick up from your local auto parts store.
This camper is not air tight. When closed it’s not too bad and having a ducted positive pressure system would be nice. They designed it into my RSI smart Cap on my truck and it works pretty well. When the slide out is open, there is just a 3’’ latex weatherstrip flap keeping (or not keeping) the cold out. If I do a lot of winter camping that is one of the first things I’ll upgrade is some beefier weatherstripping.
Great looking camper, and looks to be great functionality. I’d still stay clear about though, these small businesses have a tendency to accept clients that they can’t handle and this is what Overkill did. In my opinion it’s too risky take your money and either wait or go elsewhere.
Yes, I think the best thing moving forward for this company is to not take deposits for materials. Basically match the industry standard of taking a good faith deposit of something like $5000. But this current model of a 15% deposit upfront, then a 60% deposit 60 days before production… that’s just a recipe for disaster. You’re in 75% before they even start building a trailer. Second best scenario would be similar to construction deposits. Only hand over funds at incremental points in the build when you have proof that they are moving forward. But even this model makes me a bit uncomfortable.
Pretty sure I was seeing light from the background under the slidout at 14.08. Makes me wonder if it's a energy loss, rain, and or bug nightmare waiting to happen.
I don't mean to sound snarky, but it doesn't inspire confidence that neither of the links on their website to their camper models currently work. The comments below on the lead times for orders - over a year - are concerning. As to price, I don't know who subscribes to this channel, but the price of $40,000 for a 5x10 camper is pretty steep for something with relatively few working parts compared to a car of the same price. I appreciate the thought going into this and the effort to make it durable.
The folks subscribing seem to be on all spectrums. We tend to have just as many people laughing at this price as we have embracing it. There is a pretty wide gap in terms of acceptable pricing between the overland industry, which this trailer is, and the small camper industry as a whole. But, even the small camper industry prices have gotten a bit out of hand lately.
I love that you mention this. It shows you are a strong member of the community. Maybe I am wrong here, but I don't remember mentioning this often in any video. It seems to be something I talk about more in the comment section. Even our lift for this tilt top Charles and I are really hopeful we can use springs instead of gas struts. We will find out within the next week or so.
Good lord this one is incredibly well thought out and looks amazing to use. But I have a Bushwacker. I can only dream when looking at rigs at this tier! I like the idea of the slide out so much - I hope the idea catches on with other manufacturers. That and the pop top completely changes the entire dynamic.
The cool thing about the Bushwacker is that it has some pretty good bones. If you are ever feeling bold and daring you could make some pretty big modifications to that trailer. And you are completely right. Those two additions really changed what that trailer is capable of. It felt so good inside.
The trailer looks really nice. I read some of the comments. Sad the company is struggling. I work hard for my money and don’t want to get ripped off. Nonetheless, I like the camper. I could do without the water tank. The manual slide is nice. Don’t have to worry about motors and mechanical issues. It is an area of increased maintenance and point for leaks. I agree with you. I think the kitchen layout could be better. Reading the statement at the hopefully doesn’t ultimately mean a trailer with an overbuilt price and poor quality. For Christine and I, of all the trailers you have reviewed, we really like this one. Wonder if there is a kitchen and water tank delete option? Unfortunately the comments sway us away. We would not want to loose our hard earned money or wait an excessive amount of time for one. You could build a house with some of the lead times I saw. Again, we really liked it though.
Hi Garret! Good seeing you. I'm right with you. I think this is a really special trailer. I'm hoping the new partnership lasts and eventually turns into a new iteration of this trailer. I think they have something special here. And are really close to getting it right.
I was originally told it was a 4 season trailer. Its not. Water lines are not wrapped, no heating element in fresh tank to keep from freezing ( I live in Idaho and have to drain the tank in Oct and can't reuse it until May). Also was told the awning folds down so I could put in the garage. They changed to an OVS 270 awning and it does not fold down and will not fit in standard garage.
@@PlayingwithSticks There have been a lot of comments on this so I'm not sure if it's been covered or not, but the partnership has already been terminated and Overkill is back in the same position as before. No capital, using deposits for new builds to either complete existing orders or refund canceled orders, etc. The company has turned into a Ponzi scheme. This is your channel and you can do with it as you please, I'm sure you're not intentionally trying to lead potential customers down a road of disappointment and anger, but I would really consider if you want to keep this video visible and promoting a company that is taking peoples' money and not delivering what they promise.
FYI their claimed manufacturing agreement and partnership with Adventure Series RV in Pennsylvania is no longer happening. This was posted on their FB page under the comments. So it looks like those with old orders are officially hosed and any that placed a new order since their "partnership announcement" should be calling their credit card company ASAP. I hope no one paid with ACH or direct wire transfer. I don't see how they recovery from this.
That is a great idea. I will have to go back and look at that scene. Perhaps maybe one is there, he just didn't reference it? If not, like you I would like to see that integrated.
I did think that slide out kitchen was oddly placed. It seems like it cuts the outdoor space in half. You got the space right out the door and then you got the kitchen.
Bro... This trailer has to be $60k+. And that's just not realistic. Sure some will buy because money means less to them but damn man. No way this thing is under $60k.
Man!!! Someone almost has it!!...I think this is the closest I have seen yet compared to the Hunter Nature Campervan RAPTOR XC, that even has a wet bath, the Overkill dose not. As for the Hunter Nature Campervan RAPTOR XC, there are plenty of other questions, let alone accessibility of purchasing one easily. HOWEVER, the Overkill has a effective well thought heating system and you can easily stand up in it ( heating of the living space while considering the pluming, not thought of in other trailers) very best on I have seen yet in 2023. The construction of the trailer is also very notable, especially for holding it's value. But there is something to be said for forced ventilations hopefully they improve that or display proof of. The only thing that I also question as in the comments that have been made, is the suspension and the insulation of the slide out. Other than that, this has somewhat tilted me a bit towards this instead of a full on trailer. Look forward to seeing future models.
If you want to see this trailer evolve, plus the new one they should be coming out with soon you need to hop over to epikrv.com/ The company in this video went out of business and sold their design to a company on the East Coast.
I ordered a trailer from Overkill in 2021. I have never received my trailer. I paid this company $37,000. My refund request has gone unanswered….Currently in the process of filing a lawsuit..
Thank you for sharing Scott.
Sorry to hear this Scott. Keep hammering on them. That’s what I did.
@@BobCochran-ue3vdthank you for the support
Same thing happened to me from @BivouacOverlandLLC in Houston. Paid for a trailer and got ghosted. I too am in the middle of recovery...
Good luck Scott! like most business dealings, NEVER pay before you receive the product...they have 0 incentive to keep their end if u do...
Well I liked this camper so much I put 8000 down on it last August. I had to cancel, but am still waiting for a refund been almost 5 months now. I know a lot of other people waiting on refunds or trailers that they can't process. They just merged with a big company to make their trailers now. But everyone before this merge is out of luck right now.. they say they'll hold up their end, but we'll see. Be aware everyone.
Darren thank you so much for sharing this.
Nice news
Glad I came to the comments before finishing the video. Some saying damn near 50 k and then also reporting not getting the trailer or having tons of issues. What a shame.
I placed an order for a 510 SO in Feb 2021 and was told 6-7 months build time (Sept-Oct). Finally received it in July 2022. Yup 18 months. Discovered a leaky roof in Aug, diesel heater fail in Oct, and warped door and doorway in Nov. I took the trailer back in Jan 2023 and Dave resealed the slide-out, fixed the door/doorway issue and installed dual heaters (one for water heater and one for cabin heat). He also upgraded the thermostat to easier functioning one (all work was covered by warranty). I picked it up in Feb and so far so good (with minor issues). There are some pending customers who are at the two year mark waiting for their trailers and that may be extended with the new partnership. I like the trailer and it works for me. Do your research (other social media platforms) before you decide.
We have had a couple of people ask about how the slide-outs are sealed. Would you be able to speak to that? I really appreciate your comment here. I think there is a lot of good information for people to read. I especially like the update about the warranty work. I think this is a question many people have as well.
This company sounds shady
@magneto9555 that’s a good way of putting it. Fortunately, they are now out of business. This trailer though is still being sold under the name. Epik RV.
@@PlayingwithSticksGood to know Epik RV is now selling this model.
ok, that pull out stove needs adjustable folding legs with a wire rack or some such rt there below the stove w/ it's own ability to pull out forward at least 4-5 " for tongs, fork, hot pads. lid.,& where tf is a bracket 4 mini fire ext.? cause rt now with all that on the pull out has got to be nearing the500# limit 4 those roll outs & the further the weight is from the attached fixture, the more sag & sway there is !meaning the increased risk of never being able to slide them back in without a hammer! maybe guy wires from the roof to the end of the first pull out& a locking mech to prevent it from misaligning from a bump.
Overkill has literally stole at least $200k+ from its customers and now went and opened a new business caller Adventure series RV. They took deposits & some second payments from customers from as far back as 3 years ago and still, these customers don't have a camper or returned money. We have documented proof of all the customers that have been ripped off. I was told just today by Brandon that I will not be receiving my deposit back cause they don't have the money to give me. There are currently several lawsuits, with more to come soon, complaints filed with the Oregon Department of Justice, federal trade commission, and suspected VIN fraud.
Now they are hiding out claiming they have all went to Pennsylvania where they just announced their new venture.. Adventure Series RV LLC. They are still using the Overkill name to drum up business even though Overkill is done producing campers. This was all confirmed by Xtreme outdoors RV, who they have entered into an agreement with. There are 10- 20 customers that have given them money to produce campers that are now left high & dry cause they have no money to pay them back or the capital to produce campers for them.
Then there is the defect complaints of leaky campers, binar heaters not working, water heaters not working, electrical failures, bent rear frames. They assured customers they would stand behind their work but many have been waiting months, years and they never did the repairs. Their shop in Bend will be closed down next week and just like that they are gone but still asking for deposits from people when they have not even produced anything for those of us that already gave them money. BUYERS BEWARE! Do your research, check other websites, Facebook groups, Oregon DOJ consumer protection site. The information is now all out in the open, so don't get screwed like the rest of us.
I now have no camper and out thousands of dollars I cannot recover.
Woot woot, looks like someone's comment got through. And by the way, thanks for taking my advice on breaking your comment up. I appreciate that you got the chance to post.
@@PlayingwithSticks thanks for the help and thanks for allowing these comments to remain up and be a man of your word.
Thank you for sharing this. Obviously Brandon has the opportunity to respond to this if he desires.
It's a real shame that there are so many bad comments and customer experiences surrounding this company. The trailer is actually a really cool design. It all goes to show you, that the company matters as much as product.
No reason to delete comments. Overkill themselves posted on IG that all existing customers are screwed unless their new manufacturer can bail them out.
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Slightly misconstrued, this is not a bail out. We have formed a manufacturing partnership to continue production.
@@BrandonOverkill Phrase it as you like, but doesn't seem that far fetched. The success of Xtreme, by Overkill's own announcement, will determine whether Overkill customers are made right. New customer production and deposits done through Xtreme. Customers prior to the partnership who have already given up money get to sit and watch while those who order through Xtreme take delivery of trailers. If, and only if, Xtreme can produce enough to turn enough profit can the original customers hope to get something back, after filling the other obligations.
I immediately noticed the light coming through the storage box door, the gap under the slideout bed, and I'm sure the other slide outs don't have gaskets ethier.
Next... I would never have any camper with any "canvas".
And you're correct about the importance of a covered kitchen not depending on an awning.
I do 99 percent of my cooking outside. But on those crappy days I like the option of being able to do some lite food prep inside.
This man was part of another camper trailer company that left some folks stranded. The only reason I remember this is because they made some really interesting mini campers. They were the first on my radar. They got over booked and the quality went down and people had to wait forever for their trailers and got a poor quality rig. Not sure about this but I'd be careful until they start putting these things out.
There is a huge list of people that have been ripped off
Hi Jeff. Any chance you can remember the name of that company? I'm wondering if it was the same company? They used to make a smaller version called the T.K.47. It is the original trailer that caught my eye from them. They actually decided to bring it back into production soon. Good cautionary advice here Jeff. Thank you for sharing. With any of these trailers we all need to do our thorough research.
@@twistedcarrotproductions From the original company or this company?
@@twistedcarrotproductions Incorrect statement, our business path will allow all existing clients to be made whole.
Never apart of another trailer company, you must be thinking of another manufacturer. There have been several who have tried with less than optimal outcomes over the years.
The slide-out have a basic heavy duty rubber flap/seal on the sides. Mine leaked on the first trip out. I was in Wyoming and got a good rain squall for about an hour. I noticed water beading on the inside roof line seam of the SO. It was enough to drip. Once I returned home I checked the roof of the SO but did not see any obvious cracks in the roof sealant or missing sections. I did mention it Dave but didn't receive any real solutions. In Jan 2023 when I took the trailer back for the warped door and door frame, Dave removed the SO and resealed it, while we waited for the new heater to arrive. Last month I was in S/W Montana and camped two days in a blowing snow storm. No more leaks and there were no more drafts around the front of the SO. The drafts had been noticeable and had the added joy of blowing diesel exhaust in the cabin from the heater. This set of the CO2 alarm chirping. SO far everything is running good. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for sharing this. I really appreciate it. And I’m really glad to hear it’s working out this round.
This gives me hope for my order!
I’m glad you finally reviewed this trailer. There isn’t a ton of information/reviews about this company/trailer and I have been interested in them for awhile. I’d love to see them succeed in their business.
I put my order in for a Tk-47 in December of 20. It took 14 months to get my camper. I'm not sure where Overkill went wrong. I have been somewhat satisfied with the build. It has some bugs that I feel as though I am on my own with, as I have tried to contact both Brandon and Dave. I guess at this point, I should be fortunate to have a trailer?
I really hope Overkill can turn things around and make things right with the people that invested with them.
I hope for the best for both Overkill and their investors. Stay positive friends and remember, tomorrow is a new day.
Wow 14 months is an incredibly long time. I am sure you thought you were going to loose your money. What kind of build/trailer issues have you experienced? Sad you pay “big money” for a camper and it has problems and then the customer service is not good. I could possibly deal with problems and poor customer service if you were paying a whole lot less.
@Garret Lewis The overall design is good...but, some of the engineering is lacking. My biggest issue at the moment is the canopy...the mounting system they used allows to much movement...the heating system hasn't worked right since I got it. I had to replace parts on the water system and been having trouble with the pump not priming...There's a long list...these are just a few...
@@xbpbat21x Sorry to hear.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. And the words of wisdom near the end was a nice touch! I can't imagine what they folks are going through. But, like you I hope the best for them.
It is crazy to think that 14 months to 2 years was the average time for getting trailer these past 3 years. And this was all across the industry. That is why companies like Bean, Hiker, and a handful of others took such pride in a quick turnaround. And they took advantage of it. So many people were not willing to wait that long and ended up going with manufacturers that could pump out trailers quickly. Those with strong business models really won during this pandemic. And I think we will probably see a shakeout in the near future regarding what companies will continue on. So much growth so fast, sounded like a good thing to many manufactures. But many were not aware of how difficult that transition of scaling would really be.
I remember seeing these guys for the first time at overland expo west maybe 2 or 3 years ago. It was mind blowing to see a slide out on a micro camper. I love the pop top. Much better than a rooftop tent. I hope they do well this time around.
Good seeing you on here. I felt the same ways as you when I first saw this trailer. I think they are onto something really special here. Like you said, lets hope this new partnership takes them in the right direction.
Yeah, rooftop tents can be good if you've got people you want separated from you, but the pop top is great for giving more inside space, while also still having some separation. Plus, if ya put climate control in it, everyone can benefit from it
Very nice trailer I only hear a lot of complaints. That’s too bad crazy very nice design and these days everything is so expensive. I just wish they can figure out their financing. Just like most companies running into issues. We need more American products.
Thanks for another compelling look at wonderful small camper trailer! I really like what they have done with the design!
BRAD YOU ARE ALWAYS HERE AT THE RIGHT TIME! I so appreciate this. It has been a wild day. I don't even have time for that coffee today. Looks like coffee is on Brad tomorrow.
I love the slide out and pop top ideas. I'd love to see how its done so I can DIY it. I do not have 45k to spend on a camping trailer haha
With the size of the slide out, I suspect that they are just using heavy duty "drawer" slides underneath it. You can get 500lb rated industrial drawer slides and use multiple of them to carry plenty of capacity. Since the slide has a bed on it, you don't have to have any magic "full extension" system: part of the bed still overlaps/stays inside the trailer, which is what allows you to use conventional double-extension drawer slides. And if you're very clever, you actually install the drawer slides "backwards", so that they are in the extended position when the slide is in. This is mostly a benefit because it keeps your glides protected from the elements because they are not exposed when the slide is out.
But this is just my speculation and recommendation on how to recreate this system effectively and economically without fancy fabrication.
100% agree on the 270 awning. I have a trashed one sitting on the side of my house from high wind damage. A random gust on a calm day ruined it. now I use cheaper tarps and poles instead of a high cost replacement.
There's a lakeside campsite I use during the winter where the wind has torn up any canvas left out.
My grandkids tried sleeping in a tent next to me and ended up piling in with me
Sounds like if you want to throw $50,000 away this is the correct trailer for you. Literally.
Yeah, they went belly up! 👍
The soothingest walkthrough of anything.
I'm researching teardrop designs for a DIY build and this one really stands out. It's a great layout and the engineering challenges to designing the popup top and slide out side would be a lot of fun to work through. Thanks for the notice there at the end though, it sounds like this company has changed since your interview and those looking at purchasing from them should probably think twice.
I’ve used the rove rental overkill trailers a couple times. I actually really like them. This trailer in the video fixes a lot of the issues I had with the ones I rented. My only big issue at this point is the price point. I added a bunch of stuff that I’d like and brought the price to about $55k. I love this trailer at $30k. At the price that I got to it pushed me into looking at larger off-road trailers. Into the $75k-100k range. I’m aware that not everyone can do this but for me the $55k price is a lot not a small chunk of money. So if I’m doing that I feel like I get a lot more for my money to go for a 19ft off-road trailer.
Jared, I would be curious to hear what issues you saw with the older model. It seems like there’s never been a model that hasn’t had some problems that they’ve had continuous changes so we don’t really know how they had a model that never had a failure.
I’m still not sold on that aluminum chassis after seeing that customers complaint, how was the rest of it gonna hold out after one year or two years
55K? Dang that's a lot of dough for a camper! I'll stick with my tacoma with tent on top over lander rig. Plus, less moving parts!
@@brigittebrugger3345 so one of the ones I rented had one of the rear upper shelves riveted in. I put a 2 gallon water tank up there. Went down the road. Not off-road though. Not yet at least. Stopped and realized the shelf had ripped out of the wall. Seemed odd to have such a low weight rating on it. Also the heater I had was the forced air heater and the control was very very finicky. Had to get it right when setting it up and it even shut off at night. Really nice to have the heat when it worked though. Also rear tire carrier was sort of odd in the way that it opened and locked open. Was pretty tough to get it to start swinging closed and to latch closed. The slide was difficult to get the pin in and out but not impossible but was an issue slightly. Also the water heater we had was one of those Instant water heaters. It wasn’t bad but I like the new style. I don’t think they’ve fixed this next issue but I’d really love a kitchen that didn’t have to have any cables or lines connected. Where they just stayed connected, either that or put them in a better, easier to reach location.
@@17fourU yeah I agree. We have decided to do a larger camper, the more traditional campers that you see at the RV dealerships. We we able to find a used one for a really good price. 1 year old. Has bunks for the kids, outdoor kitchen, 2 slides, a full shower and the same amount of fresh water as the overkill camper. Only paid $18k though. We also bought a topper for the truck, and a massive rooftop tent. Reason being. We are on the east coast. Usually only go camping on the weekends. So decided to just take the camper and park it at a camp site with water and electric hookups and unhook and go explore that area and trails in just the truck. This way if we find a cool primitive camp site we can open the RTT and camp there. Then head back to the big camper and take showers and eat dinner and such. The price difference between the overkill $55k price point and the $18k we paid we can pay for a camp site a whole lot before we hit the $55k price point.
Unless you also want to get scammed, obviously stay far away from this company.
Thank you for sharing this. I am being optimistic here. But I am very hopeful the new partnership can get this trailer back on the road. I doesn't dismiss what has been done in the past, but I sure would like to see this trailer being produced in the future.
What do you mean??? This is news to me.
Did you personally experience a problem. If so, details?
@@garretlewis4103 I suggest reading through the rest of this comment section. Nightmare stories after another.
My uncle in California has been ghosted for over 30,000 of which I invested 10k for a hunting trailer. Nothing going on three years. Numerous attempts to get ahold of them with no response. Watch your channel and to my surprise guess who pops up. The man no one has heard from for years. Steer clear of this crowd! Brandon is not a truthful person looks like attorney time unfortunately
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate you taking the time.
Who might your uncle be? We have been in contact with all of our clients since day one.
Good to know!😢 so sorry you are going through that! Thanks for sharing!!!❤
Drew should really put a pinned comment explaining Overkill's current state. They're out of business and have, as you can see in the comments below, left many people hanging. As someone who's newly interested in small campers, I'm learning to avoid fly-by-night companies that promise the world in a camper. They're clearly not up to the task.
I thought we did leave a pinned comment. Thank you for letting me know, when I get to a computer I'll update it. I appreciate this
Love your videos! You are sharing information not selling an item. The learning part of your videos make me understand what to look for and maybe improvements on what I have
Miriam I can't remember for the life of me what trailer you own? A T@G or T@B keeps coming to my mind, but I'm not very confident of that.
@Playing with Sticks I scored a mini max, which is perfect for me and my dog.
I agree with your comments about the kitchen. Pulling into a Rest stop you couldn’t use the kitchen.
Exactly. And that is big to people in Oregon. Last summer I was battling for campsites across the State. I was forced to stay in multiple rest stops and a cracker barrel and the weather wasn't great. I was lucky that I had a galley hatch to work under.
Drew, you are so right about the weight!!!
Great video sir! The camper trailer is definitely impressive and also a big Kudos to you for including concerns about questionable lead times and large deposits. Most channels run more like advertising for companies and never voice these kind of concerns for obvious reasons. Glad to see some integrity shining through. Keep up the good work!
He has been erasing the bad comments from real customers! People been taking screenshots and can prove it
Sarah that is absolutely not true. Go back and check out my responses. If you follow them, you will most likely get through. Go check out @mt baker snow removal. He is patient and found a way to get them through.
Thanks David. I appreciate the kind words. Now to find a way to get these comments to not get deleted. Haha. But, it looks like some of the folks are figuring it out.
Awesome video Drew. Thanks for sharing. Watching from New Zealand. 👍
Any trailers in New Zealand we need to check out? Haha 😆 May and I are always looking for an excuse to get over there someday.
@@PlayingwithSticks What a great adventure that would be for your whole family!
I really despise when companies hide the price of stuff. Went to the website and it is nothing but a bunch of rubbish. Nothing on pricing. So stupid.
Agreed! Buried pricing drives me crazy as well. Unfortunately I think it is kind of the norm these days.
The pricing link on the website is down. Page is undergoing a massive overhaul.
@@BrandonOverkill I can verify that. The website was working last week, but then I exchanged emails with Brandon letting him know that certain portions were not working correctly. He has a team currently working on the changes.
@@PlayingwithSticks Trailer is awesome though. Thanks for the content.
@@Bizarb You are most welcome!
I don’t know I’m starting to wonder about the integrity of the trailer sounds to me like the steel chassis would’ve been a better choice, considering we really don’t know what grade is being used in this trailer
I rented this exact trailer from Rove Rentals. Was really nice except only a couple things I’d change. “Memory foam” mattress (LOL) was terribly stiff, and the window screens are easy to knock out while sleeping in the slide out. The Snomaster fridge was great.
Clearly the Swiss Army Knife of trailers! Just two additional steps when you pull into a rest stop for lunch or set up in return for less wind resistance towing. Though the fabric expansion is not insulated and prone to ware, several manufactures utilize this solution in truck campers too. The lock-n-roll coupler is excellent for off road and current back-up cameras make lining one up it easy. However, the tongue weight of this trailer would drop the rear of a typical mid-sized truck or SUV about an inch and heavy duty shocks are recommended when one lifts the TV. I'd recommend an Old Mam Emu lift to solve this
NOPE. Based on the comments; I wouldn’t touch this dog turd with a 10 foot pole. I’m guessing this is the tip of the iceberg for a lot of these companies that were happy to sell you a tiny off-road camper at Airstream prices.
Crazy times. I hope this isn't foreshadowing.
I couldn't find any pricing on their website. Thanks for including it in the video.
Looks incredibly well built except the metal tangy sound.
Thanks as well for including the pros and cons.
Yes, I would really appreciate it manufacturers would be more upfront with their pricing. Fortunately over the last few years I am seeing more and more manufacturers being transparent with their pricing.
I was looking for this as well. Usually when they don't post pricing, it's about twice what you would expect.
Yeah, I too always like to see and know the price. Not knowing the price is kind of like applying for a job and not knowing the starting pay. Come on Overkill, be more transparent on your pricing.
so many features remind me of pop-ups but this looks far more durable. Love the extended kitchen area--even though I don't cook and the fact that you can stand up and walk around. The slide being manual is also nice.
How do you not cook?
Nice product. It really has many wonderful features, but I’m a Mammoth Trailer Fan.
I should get the chance to finally set foot in a Mammoth trailer this summer. I am looking forward to it.
6 days ago they posted on their Facebook page that the manufacturing agreement has been terminated. I wonder how this will affect them…
Less than 2 minutes in and I'm seeing I would have made it differently. This is why I'll build my own.
This thing is so legit! I wish I could find it online and start diving into costs and options.
Be cautious doing business with overkill. As I understand, extreme outdoors and little guy trailers will be building this model out of PA now. Wait for them to start production.
Drew as usual kudos as you did a great job on this review. In my opinion and if installed correctly Timbrens are a good suspension. They help keep this trailer light. They tow on the road better then many of the trailing arm suspension and have been around for a long time. I will admit I would never take this this expensive of a trailer on any crazy jeep trails. That chassis looked bolted and not so sure about its longevity. The whole slide out sure allows for a lot of room inside but more moving parts...scary. The heater again lots to go wrong there. Frig, stove are top knotch. Like you flashed on the video this trailer is likely 2,300 pounds not under 2,000. Tounge weight with loaded trailer and that huge boxy tounge box my guess 350 to 400 pounds. So IMHO not jeep wrangler towable. Very unique build.
So I have been following these guys for a while now. Expedition Portal has a huge string about deposits and 1 to 2 year weight times, law suits , false promises and owners hiding from being served. I have no idea if all are true but there are a lot of posts. FB groups as well.
I did call extreme outdoors thier new partner. I finally got to the finance extention where a lady answered the phone. It took several attempts. I asked her what she knew about this merger with overkill. She said sir I have no information about Overkill but I can take your number and pass this on to someone in our organization that may have knowledge of overkill. 5 minutes later I got a call from Brandon. So I guess this verify s the merger maybe.
If I was waiting for a overkill trailer with a huge deposit on the line I would not be happy with Overkill working on returned rental rigs.
Also I am a bit worried about RKS. They went silent last August. That purpose trailer is way cool. Don't understand why they are not selling
Thanks Bart! I agree I think Timbren is perfect for our family. Just the right amount of weight and functionality. We find it is a bit too heavy for our newest trailer, but that is a unique trailer. Although it is too heavy we are still installing Timbren on it. We just wish there was an independent suspension out there that was a little bit lighter for our build. Good eye on the bolted comment. I usually am against moving parts as well. But something like this, is so advantageous to the build. And it doesn't scare me away since observing so many homebuilds recently with slide-outs. So far I haven't read about one with any failures. They have had failures in other parts of their build, but not the slideouts like I expected. However, I am not an off roader. With offroading, I see how this could maybe be a concern. And also good point on the tongue weight. With those incredibly large boxes it could get out of control really fast! I have been following the posts as well. To be honest it is nothing new in the industry especially during Covid. But, the differing factor is these large deposits. Everyone else who has been standing in a build que for 14 months to 2 years has remained somewhat patient because they have no skin in the game or maybe $500-$2,000. But when you are talking about handing over $30-$40K and waiting for 14 month to 2 years I could see how this gets amped up a bit. We have heard from hundreds of people over the last three years about wait times, slow communication etc. But again the voice are a little quieter when they don't have much invested. Great job verifying that merger by the way. That was a simple, but smart way of doing it. Also good point about the rental rig repairs. I didn't even think of that when I edited the video. I do wonder though how much of this has to do with supply chain issues and labor force issues. This is plaguing the industry as a whole. We even mentioned it in our build video. It set us back so much that we ended up just grabbing the all-in-one power system from Ecoflow. It turned out to be a blessing, but at the time I was chomping at the bit to get out and we couldn't get the supplies we needed. Basically the build got delayed an entire year. Interesting statement about RKS. A good place to find out more about that would be XGRID in Las Vegas beings they carry RKS as well as all the other fun Australian campers. Thanks for the really thoughtful comment. It was fun seeing this trailer through your eyes.
@@PlayingwithSticks glad to contribute. What maybe separates Overkill from other trailer manufacturers that have supply chain and labor shortage issues is thar statement by the owner in IG. They don't have the funds to build any of the trailers or refund any of the deposits folks have down on these trailers. If I understand his post correctly they will need to take orders and build new customers rigs first then maybe from those profits start going back and building the back ordered trailers. That is a ponzi scheme is it not? Then again the other alternative is bankruptcy and nobody gets anything but legal fees. So any criticism you maybe getting doing this video may in fact help all these folks by helping overkill rebound and make amends. Who knows. Hard saying not knowing.
I have asked Loren at xgrid about RKS and he does not really have an answer. I don't think he has heard from them. Probably what'd happened is they are seeking investors with production on hold. Very well designed and build rigs
FYI- I waited 17 months for my Trail Marker with two large deposits and it was very stressful. All worked out so I hope the same for all the Overkill folk
@@bartman1857 I am not justifying what they are doing. As you can tell from the post there will be lawsuits coming their way. You can tell they are trying to get ahead of them and get production going before more lawsuits tumble in. My optimistic side is hoping the folks over on the East Coast can ramp up production on this and make things better. Obviously they can't make things right, because what is done has been done.
@@bartman1857 I think Lauren doesn't know I have a feeling your hunch is right.
@@bartman1857 I hope at some point these trailer manufacturers face some competition and are forced to remove these ridiculous down payment requirements.
Thanks for this review. My nitpicks:
1. Timbren is a Canadian company and their suspensions are super simple, but they can't be used for auto-leveling like airbags can.
2. The Binar heater is Russian-made and vulnerable to supply chain issues. They should have used Rixen/Espar.
3. The slide out is cool, but no topper for debris or explanation of how well it's sealed from the elements, dust, bugs, and rodents.
4. The kitchen placement is off in terms of workflow. Designed by an engineer, not someone who cooks.
Timbren is a Canadian company.
@@geographyinaction7814 Thank you for the correction. I will update my comment.
I have had a defective trailer since day 1 fills with water, bowed out door, walls bubbling. Been promised a replacement for two years now they default. Brandon is a L I A R
Looks like your comment made it through. Thanks for sharing your experience.
You have the second camper ever sold. Many improvements to our construction techniques, materials and components used since your build. You have been offered free warranty repairs for years, and refused except for one time. I never promised a replacement, we offer a buyback because you were so eager to get a new one. Also you have told people you design secret equipment for OverKill, interesting to point the finger and call a person a L I A R. I had never spoken to you until Expo of PNW 2022.
@@BrandonOverkill Thank you Brandon for sharing your response.
That camper should have been mine. Glad I never received it.
@@BobCochran-ue3vd What camper do you have Bob?
Ground clearance is measured from the lowest point of the trailer which is the bottom of the suspension arm not the bottom of the chassis
Awesome camper. Maybe the stove slide could articulate closer to the back cover. But ive never seen such a versatile camper. The queen slide and pop up, the pass thrus, heating system, very well done. Covered everything.
That is a really good thought. When Charles first was working on our camper design he made articulating slide-outs for the fridge. Like you said it would allow it to swing out. Great idea! And I agree with you completely. This trailer does a lot of things well.
Thank you, the stove can be switched to face the other direction. There is also plenty of overhead coverage with a addition of a 270 awning.
Yeah, the kitchen layout could have been better to me. With the current layout, I could almost do without the kitchen slide.
@@PlayingwithSticks I can’t WAIT to see more of Charles’ design. It sounds like we may be able to afford that.
Of all the small tear drops I've looked at in the last couple years this one makes the most sense. I just want to know how much
As with all our videos the price is in there. I can't remember off the top of my head, but the base model was high $30K and the model with the pop-top was lower $40K. I can't remember the exact number.
I was quoted 45k on 4/22/2021 totally loaded
@@PlayingwithSticks It's buried near but not near enough to the end and isn't easy to find. And there are no prices on their Web site at all.
It's an awesome camper, but just too steep for me.
Yup. Us too. Average families just can’t afford it. We make decent money, but 40k+ would pay off half of our house….
@@marynichols7429 Well when you put it that way! So true.
Thanks for the review. This is unique and a creative twist on a teardrop.
It really is unique and creative. I love seeing people work outside the box, but in a practical way. Often times these camper companies come up with new flashy designs, that look great, but in theory don't work to well in the wild.
That pass-through maybe could use a bug screen that could be held by velcro or magnets. Would prevent mosquitos or flies or other from entering the cabin area via that opening.
RIP Overkill Campers. Gone but not forgotten
Drew! Another outstanding review. You truly have a great insight on the small trailer world and address so many great observations. Crushed it dude.
Thanks Matt! That means a lot coming from you. I was just telling Colorado Mallcrawlers about you yesterday. I was telling him how I wanted to partner with you and then life got in the way. I still really feel bad about dropping the ball on our meet up. Thanks again for being so understanding.
This guy definitely knows his product
Hey Drew, just a heads up that OverKill is no longer in business.
Is that official? I’ve been trying to find anything official regarding this. Down webpage, broken partnership on the East Coast. But for an actual announcement, I’m having trouble finding one. I appreciate you updating me on this.
Great review! I have been looking for a small compact trailer that will work for our small family of 4 yet still fit in my garage. Currently we all fit in the Roofnest Condor which is on our Tundra. The new trailer designs are getting so good and way more practical. I appreciate your reviews of these types of products. It really helps.
Good to see you again, Drew! 😊
Ditto! Especially with a video like this. It is always nice to know the core community is here when it gets a little rough.
I have seen the base price mentioned here and it seems low. Which is a good thing. In Feb 2021 my base price was 30K. Later in the process I was told base was 35-40K with a fully loaded trailer with all options was upwards of 50-60K. If they have brought their price point down that is good news for new customers. I dont know this new manufacturing company or how they operate. I am curious to see how long the actual production time is. I was told by Overkill in the beginning it 6-7 months. 18 months later I took delivery. Good luck to the first customer with this new company. If it was my company Id give huge discounts to attract buyers especially with the pending Overkill customers in limbo.
Thanks for the good luck. I've been waiting 19 months since reserve deposit. They got the construction deposit 14 months ago. Brandon won't communicate with me so I have no idea what my money is being used for, not to build my trailer apparently. Hearing about all your problems makes me wish I could just get my money back, at least they fixed it.
This thing is MAGESTIC! Overkill galore, just like I like it.
solid review. I love that it fits in a garage. I also agree about the fridge being where it is instead of in the back near the burners. I'm sure you have a recommendation for one that has the whole galley in the rear. at $44k, its super nice, but not for me.
It's just dawned on me. Instead of Overkill taking 75% down 60 days before the start of a build they should join the dealer network of Little Guy Trailers. Then folks would only need to put down a typical deposit. However my guess is Little Guy won't even start production until they have orders on the books. Catch 22 for sure.
In my dreams only I'm afraid.....beautiful unit.
Amazing trailer, sadly looks like the company website is down and they are no longer in business.
Do those outside lights demonstrated at 8:16 change color temperature, as well? Blue-white is great when maneuvering, but the rest of the time I'd prefer warm lights to be less harsh on my eyes and the wildlife's, particularly before bed-and I know from experience that I often go to bed asap after arriving at a campsite at night.
I love all the functionally they packed into this bad boy.
Being able to stand up and put on pants without issue on of the best features of this trailer as well.
Agreed. There are just so many things this trailer does well.
No bathroom? Forget it. I was just at Overland Expo 2024 in Arrington VA and I fell in love with the ENCORE ROG 14RKB. Ya'll should check it out.
I would suggest you spend some more time hanging out in this community. You will learn quickly why everyone here runs from trailers built in Elkhart Indiana. I think you will appreciate the community and getting a better grasp of the large rv industry vs what we highlight on this channel. It's fun seeing you checking out these videos. I see you just saw Hiker trailer as well. There are other trailers in that price range that use composite materials instead of the wood that made you hesitate. It makes me hesitate as well.
I couldn't agree more about the kitchen and it's location on this would be a deal breaker for me. The one on this critter is ridiculous, especially if it's an all-weather camper.
Wow Drew!! I am so impressed you mentioned the suspension...totally agree and you forgot to mention the leveling ability or lack there of. Also, the hitch is as middle of the road as the suspension. The D035 by cruisemaster and the Mchitch are kind of the defacto upper end hitches. You even mentioned the pressurization...I swear we'll make an overland out of you yet :) I would add that the front boxes seem really thin and will take a lot of abuse and not sure how well over time they will hold up, most put some kind of raptor coating or diamond plating for protection. Now for the coup de gra THe Awning...I lauged out loud literally and totally appreciate the poke...LOL Maybe one day you'll come around but apparently today isn't the day. One thing about awning I haven't seen you cover is the ability to put up awning walls and create an enclosed outdoor area which comes in really handy sometimes. I don't have the experience you have but after 3 years of using my awning system in gusts as high 30-30 mph winds I just can't get on your page. I've only ever used one awning and I defer to your much deeper experience. I question the seals on the slide out, durability, fit, etc. I like the same stuff you do including the abilit yto use it on the road without having to open the slide. Very thoughtful and well built trailer even if the hitch and suspension could be better. The put fantastic gear on the trailer including the electronics. When you talk about weight I always have mixed feelings. I''m just not sure what constitutes heavy in this class of trailer as comparing apples to apples is so difficult amongst the trade offs. It sure does weigh more than 600lbs but not as much as 5000. If the target audience has small crossovers that are rated at 1500 then this is really heavy but if the have medium suv then 5000 is average and this is fine. I really like the potential of this trailer as I lean toward overlanding as you know and there is a lot to love here. Great job as usual Drew!!!
Love that you mentioned the hitch. I was going to add that with text, but I forgot to put it in there. I still like the rock n' roll and the timbren if weight is a big factor. But most people building a camper like this aren't as concerned about weight as I am. I have used the cruisemaster on the Bean trailers. It is exactly as you explain it. I have never seen the Mchitch in person. I am actually taking my first serious overlanding trip this summer. Brigham from Bean trailer wants to show me the ropes. He says we will be in situations where the additional overlanding accesories will actually be used. I think for me it has been hard to see the value, because I haven't ever need them. I am super excited thinking about this trip. I will do my best to film a bit along the way. And I agree I absolutely love the awning walls. We actually had them custom made for our Bean trailer. It was fun being able to prototype it for them. The only thing that was hard for me was determining how long to make the sidewalls. On some terrain they were even with the ground, some bunched up, some floating in the air, and some terrain I couldn't even get the stakes in the ground due to the walls floating so high. Glad I didn't have to make that final decision of wall height. Haha. And I don't have issues with high winds. Somebody watched our video the other day and said we were staking out our guy lines too far. But, we have had no issues when at camp. The awning holds well with high winds. It is setting up or taking down in high winds where we were losing the battle. But I am learning from the overland community that some awnings tend to be better than others. Looks like the brackets and support are much beefier on other models. But then at the same time I have been told the brackets are wimpy, so that when the wind does take the awning you don't damage the awning, you just have to replace the brackets. Which was very easy to do. I also am still a little hesitant on slide-outs, especially for offroad use. But, I have been closely following homebuilds that use slide-outs and they are still having the same water issues with the galley and seems on the trailer, but nobody has mentioned any issues with their slide-outs. So that has given me a bit more confidence in this area. But again, these people aren't pulling their trailer through creek beds and on difficult terrain. Yes, very good point on the weight. My thought on weight is that the technology is available to make the same size trailer, at similar strength and size so why not do it. I believe some of this overkill in the market is truly overkill. I would like to see some manufacturers take some risks and stop trying to please the public. I would like to see someone truly prove to us all that a trailer can go literally anywhere and not have to be a giant steel cage on the road. I really think it is possible. I think someone just needs to help change our perspectives. Pat, as usual thanks for the detailed feedback. I know a lot of people are reading these comments from you and getting a lot out of them. With your experience in the overlanding world I look to you for help in this area. This is definitely one of my weaknesses.
My concerns about slides have always been about the potential for leaks and mechanical issues. This being a manual slide could possibly eliminate some of the mechanical issues. There is still the potential for water intrusion. I wonder what the builder has done to address these? If they are “over built”, I would think they would at least have considered these potential problems.
Drew, I love the flashback of you and May dealing with the awning in the wind! She sounds ready to drive off and let the awing drag behind the trailer! 😀
You are so restrained! If it were me, I'd have to bleep out a few words in the audio! 😀
You nailed it. She was over it. As you could probably tell from her voice it wasn't the first time we have had issues with this style of awning. I am still really interested in giving a smaller square rooftop awning a chance. I did have a couple people in the community chime in about it though and said they had the same issues. To the point where one was worried about dislocating their shoulder. And with my bad shoulders that doesn't give me much confidence. As for restrained I think I was more in shock. It happened so fast. A minute earlier the wind died down so we knew we had the chance to get the awning down. We were held captive there due to the wind. But unfortunately just as I got the stakes removed the wind picked right back up and throw it out of both of our hands. I was a little shook up too, because the guy line got a bit tangled up on May in the process. Quite scary. I kept yelling at her "just let it go." And she was yelling "I'm Trying." Haha. Quite wild.
@@PlayingwithSticks Wow! If I had seen that in the video, I would definitely never consider an awning! 😀
I bought another item you've highlighted: the Clam tent. I love it! I would worry about it in a high wind, though. 😊
I’ll stick with the TAG … we love it.
From all the comments, this company sounds shady as hell
I couldn’t help but notice when he was sitting on the bed you could see daylight underneath where I assume would be the pull out. Definitely not going to stay cool or warm in this thing without effort also for that price I’d take a brand new Coleman Lantern 17 footer for $16k and have room to walk and a bathroom it does weigh 3000 instead of 2300 but honestly that shouldn’t matter much considering how much more camper you get. It’s even ready for solar and has a nice compartment up front (storage) that could hold 4 solar batteries easily and be out of the way.
This as a tray canopy would be dope af
for me, if the "camp" trailer requires you to go outside for anything, it's a "no go" however, if it offers the ability to cook inside AND outside it can be a plus. But that's just where i'm at and what i'm looking for right now. The trailer(s) look amazing though otherwise.
We get that. There are a number of people in the community like you who need a bit more indoor living requirements.
Some ideas I like, some I don't. Still have to cook outside with the flies crawling all over your breakfast, not to mention cold or wind and rain issues.
Yes, not an indoor camper by any means. Well, maybe night time use. But definitely aimed at more of the outdoor camping crowd.
Yeah, that stove should be facing the other way.. which would allow you to work in the galley between the two pull outs.. fridge and stove/prep table
Depends on where you want to go
My dog looks just like your dog. I have your Doppledog.
Love it! I think that is the first I have heard of a Doppledog.
too bad they screwed over the people that had deposits on these things and kept the money
I am wondering about the slide out window and traveling down the road and rock damage????????
Wow! I wasn't aware of positive pressure systems! Or I just forgot, if you talked about it in an earlier video 😅
I have only talked about it in expensive overlanding videos. I think it may have just been the European video and the Overland vs. Traditional. We are creating a very budget version in our current trailer that uses SUV filters you can pick up from your local auto parts store.
This camper is not air tight. When closed it’s not too bad and having a ducted positive pressure system would be nice. They designed it into my RSI smart Cap on my truck and it works pretty well. When the slide out is open, there is just a 3’’ latex weatherstrip flap keeping (or not keeping) the cold out. If I do a lot of winter camping that is one of the first things I’ll upgrade is some beefier weatherstripping.
Great looking camper, and looks to be great functionality. I’d still stay clear about though, these small businesses have a tendency to accept clients that they can’t handle and this is what Overkill did. In my opinion it’s too risky take your money and either wait or go elsewhere.
Yes, I think the best thing moving forward for this company is to not take deposits for materials. Basically match the industry standard of taking a good faith deposit of something like $5000. But this current model of a 15% deposit upfront, then a 60% deposit 60 days before production… that’s just a recipe for disaster. You’re in 75% before they even start building a trailer. Second best scenario would be similar to construction deposits. Only hand over funds at incremental points in the build when you have proof that they are moving forward. But even this model makes me a bit uncomfortable.
It was a disaster…….
Pretty sure I was seeing light from the background under the slidout at 14.08. Makes me wonder if it's a energy loss, rain, and or bug nightmare waiting to happen.
I wish I could buy the independent suspension that Blackseries uses for my own homemade build.
Does it fall apart like so many other RVs?
What about a external shower and a potty unit for older folks and a larger cooking awning
I don't mean to sound snarky, but it doesn't inspire confidence that neither of the links on their website to their camper models currently work. The comments below on the lead times for orders - over a year - are concerning. As to price, I don't know who subscribes to this channel, but the price of $40,000 for a 5x10 camper is pretty steep for something with relatively few working parts compared to a car of the same price. I appreciate the thought going into this and the effort to make it durable.
The folks subscribing seem to be on all spectrums. We tend to have just as many people laughing at this price as we have embracing it. There is a pretty wide gap in terms of acceptable pricing between the overland industry, which this trailer is, and the small camper industry as a whole. But, even the small camper industry prices have gotten a bit out of hand lately.
@@PlayingwithSticks thanks for the reply!
Oh this one has my name one it…thanks for sharing
Love it! I agree it is a really special trailer. I think it will talk to a number of different demographics.
The slide out addition is wicked, any blueprints or design plans I can look at?
As soon as I heard him say "gas struts," I thought about how much Drew loves gas struts
I love that you mention this. It shows you are a strong member of the community. Maybe I am wrong here, but I don't remember mentioning this often in any video. It seems to be something I talk about more in the comment section. Even our lift for this tilt top Charles and I are really hopeful we can use springs instead of gas struts. We will find out within the next week or so.
the pop up is new this unit and helps big time, as rest of the trailer is the same...
Yes, very minor tweaks to the rest of the unit.
Does anyone know where I could find a front box like that for a pull out kitchen?
Good lord this one is incredibly well thought out and looks amazing to use. But I have a Bushwacker. I can only dream when looking at rigs at this tier! I like the idea of the slide out so much - I hope the idea catches on with other manufacturers. That and the pop top completely changes the entire dynamic.
The cool thing about the Bushwacker is that it has some pretty good bones. If you are ever feeling bold and daring you could make some pretty big modifications to that trailer. And you are completely right. Those two additions really changed what that trailer is capable of. It felt so good inside.
Perfect doggy
The trailer looks really nice. I read some of the comments. Sad the company is struggling. I work hard for my money and don’t want to get ripped off. Nonetheless, I like the camper. I could do without the water tank. The manual slide is nice. Don’t have to worry about motors and mechanical issues. It is an area of increased maintenance and point for leaks. I agree with you. I think the kitchen layout could be better. Reading the statement at the hopefully doesn’t ultimately mean a trailer with an overbuilt price and poor quality. For Christine and I, of all the trailers you have reviewed, we really like this one. Wonder if there is a kitchen and water tank delete option? Unfortunately the comments sway us away. We would not want to loose our hard earned money or wait an excessive amount of time for one. You could build a house with some of the lead times I saw. Again, we really liked it though.
Hi Garret! Good seeing you. I'm right with you. I think this is a really special trailer. I'm hoping the new partnership lasts and eventually turns into a new iteration of this trailer. I think they have something special here. And are really close to getting it right.
I was originally told it was a 4 season trailer. Its not. Water lines are not wrapped, no heating element in fresh tank to keep from freezing ( I live in Idaho and have to drain the tank in Oct and can't reuse it until May). Also was told the awning folds down so I could put in the garage. They changed to an OVS 270 awning and it does not fold down and will not fit in standard garage.
@@erickaesman4001 Thank you Eric for sharing your feedback. Much appreciated!
@@PlayingwithSticks There have been a lot of comments on this so I'm not sure if it's been covered or not, but the partnership has already been terminated and Overkill is back in the same position as before. No capital, using deposits for new builds to either complete existing orders or refund canceled orders, etc. The company has turned into a Ponzi scheme. This is your channel and you can do with it as you please, I'm sure you're not intentionally trying to lead potential customers down a road of disappointment and anger, but I would really consider if you want to keep this video visible and promoting a company that is taking peoples' money and not delivering what they promise.
Question; does the door and windows have screens to keep bugs out.
FYI their claimed manufacturing agreement and partnership with Adventure Series RV in Pennsylvania is no longer happening. This was posted on their FB page under the comments. So it looks like those with old orders are officially hosed and any that placed a new order since their "partnership announcement" should be calling their credit card company ASAP. I hope no one paid with ACH or direct wire transfer. I don't see how they recovery from this.
This looks epic!
It's pretty neat isn't it. I have a feeling we will see more trailers like this in the future.
Incredible unit! 11:00 you put a moveable screen in there for ventilation. Just a thought.
That is a great idea. I will have to go back and look at that scene. Perhaps maybe one is there, he just didn't reference it? If not, like you I would like to see that integrated.
I did think that slide out kitchen was oddly placed. It seems like it cuts the outdoor space in half. You got the space right out the door and then you got the kitchen.
If it had a bathroom, I'd be sold
When will people get on the 24V train?
Bro... This trailer has to be $60k+. And that's just not realistic. Sure some will buy because money means less to them but damn man. No way this thing is under $60k.
Man!!! Someone almost has it!!...I think this is the closest I have seen yet compared to the Hunter Nature Campervan RAPTOR XC, that even has a wet bath, the Overkill dose not. As for the Hunter Nature Campervan RAPTOR XC, there are plenty of other questions, let alone accessibility of purchasing one easily.
HOWEVER, the Overkill has a effective well thought heating system and you can easily stand up in it ( heating of the living space while considering the pluming, not thought of in other trailers) very best on I have seen yet in 2023. The construction of the trailer is also very notable, especially for holding it's value. But there is something to be said for forced ventilations hopefully they improve that or display proof of. The only thing that I also question as in the comments that have been made, is the suspension and the insulation of the slide out.
Other than that, this has somewhat tilted me a bit towards this instead of a full on trailer.
Look forward to seeing future models.
If you want to see this trailer evolve, plus the new one they should be coming out with soon you need to hop over to epikrv.com/ The company in this video went out of business and sold their design to a company on the East Coast.